modern fighting games are garbage deisigns

A fricking book of psychology of industrial design of 1989 explains the issue with modern fighting games.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i think you just suck ass my man

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Except that there are no vestigial features in fighting games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      nitroplus/aquapazza tutorial is 40 minutes.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Only 40?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Nitroplus game
        >No Thunderbokt Fantasy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with

      nitroplus/aquapazza tutorial is 40 minutes.

      you should've said "most fighting games, including the one OP is crying about, don't have vestigial features"

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        have you played nitroplus?

        I had to spam and spend like 3-4 special bars at the beggining of the match just to play normally, because they're just nuisances.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no, I don't really play anime fighters, and I'm really only assuming it is one because I've never heard of it. is it any good in spite of that?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's just waifu fanservice pandering with e-girls, and overcomplex mechanics for no reason to be a kitchen sink.

            All anime fighters are the same e-girl waifu BS garbage.

            Just play EFZ memorial, at least that one doesn't devolve into kitchen sink designs.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's just waifu fanservice pandering with e-girls, and overcomplex mechanics for no reason to be a kitchen sink.

          All anime fighters are the same e-girl waifu BS garbage.

          Just play EFZ memorial, at least that one doesn't devolve into kitchen sink designs.

          Nitroplus is literally an eroge company, you fricking morons. Their fighting game is SUPPOSED to be pure fanservice.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Entire game of Street fighter 5, eveyrth8ing in it is an vestigal feature from Street fighter 2 and other fighting games from 30 years ago.
      Literally everything.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I dont think you understand what vestigal means.
        It does not mean legacy design.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You don't like the genre if you think everything about it is unnecessary. It doesn't mean it's bad, it means you don't like it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >literally everything
        >names literally nothing

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Combo inputs are vestigial features.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Character select is a vestigial feature

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The correct way to perform a single backstep in Tekken is four sequential inputs

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Literally just back, back

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          no. walking back is just holding back. backdash is back back.
          if you mean korean backdash thats a different can of worms and multiple mechanics working together.

          The korean backdash is not "multiple mechanics working together". It's an animation cancel that is strictly superior to backdash, by a wide margin. Nobody designing a new fighting game today would think the game would be more interesting if you made stepping backward "correctly" require four inputs. Yet this animation cancel is grandfathered into every single Tekken game for the sole reason that good players mastered it, and would feel that their effort and skill is wasted if a regular backdash was just as functional. It's the very definition of a vestigial feature.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Most competetive games and genres have features that were not originally intentionally added. They were discovered by good players and became part of the games' core mechanics because people liked the added depth.
            If you remove KBD from Tekken the game becomes less competetively interesting, which T4 proved before they added it back in.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
                He's right, though

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for your contribution

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
                He's right, though

                >dude balance is why I'm dogshit at fighting games
                >no I wont pick a character I perceive as strong that would mean putting my ego on the line

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It's the very definition of fun alright

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            git gud

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Animation Cancel.
            >"Cancel" implying theres more than one mechanic involved in achiving it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        no. walking back is just holding back. backdash is back back.
        if you mean korean backdash thats a different can of worms and multiple mechanics working together.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    people crying about srk inputs or, even better, quarter circles, is my favorite genre of music. it takes 15 minutes of practice to be able to always get a dp motion, especially with modern leniency, and yet they keep outing themselves as toddlers who throw a tantrum when they can't do something literally first try.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      i'm sure its very easy to press the "R" button on a phone as well, but that's not the argument. the argument is why are these inputs still implemented into every game?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Risk / reward. Doing a complicated input gives you a more powerful move than just pressing an attack button on its own, but you might mess up the sequence and it leaves your fingers unable to do other inputs. Almost every other game genre out there has some type of risk / reward structure (eg. powerful spell has a high chance of failing, powerful guns having smaller amount of ammo, powerful soldiers that require lots of resources), fighting games have powerful moves being tied to complicated inputs as their balancing mechanic.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          (basic mechanics)

          (mind games)
          I play Naraka and have never felt the need for inputs to be artificially complicated for the game to be fun. In fact, after they made certain previously un-queueable inputs queueable for more consistent execution, the game simply got better and less frustrating, allowing you to focus on fighting the enemy instead of fighting the controls. Advanced combos are still difficult to execute under pressure so there is room for skill advantage, but you still do every input for a reason and not just for the sake of having to input difficult secret code to unlock the permission to use a move. How about giving powerful moves more startup frames?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            (me)
            Forgot to add: Inputs being easier also means that the opponent does less mistakes, things are more intentional and less random. This creates more room for conditioning the enemy to do what you want, which feels more rewarding. A game where both players desperately try to execute their thing, make mistakes until one player accidentally wins, is not as satisfying as knowing that you made the right choices to outplay the opponent.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            lol what is this trash

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Why are 2d fighter players like this?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                lol this floaty shit isnt a 3D fighter either.

                I just looked it up. Literal chink shit. Have some standards goddamn.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                coping chink. frick outta here

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I love naraka but inputs in fightinggames are not complicated its just you not similiar with it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Or you could do what Smash Bros does and balance moves by number of frames it takes for the move to happen and for the character to recover. I do understand the concept behind more complex moves being stronger if executed, but all it really does is limit the number of people willing to get into fighting games. The reality is that the process of committing inputs to muscle memory is not fun and games are supposed to be fun.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            It is a fun process and turning actual fighting games into smash is a dogshit idea.
            Smash also has some of the most backwards moronic inputs for shit with its tilt attacks. Even worse when some moron tells you to bind those on an analog stick like some subhuman.
            Smash is literally only a thing because of the franchises involved.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I’m not even saying copy Smash’s inputs, I’m just saying that bloated move lists with 3-5 inputs for most attacks is going to keep fighting game audiences small compared to what they could be.

              >balance moves by number of frames it takes for the move to happen and for the character to recover.
              I genuinely am unsure if people posting in these threads are moronic or pretending to be.

              Ah, the Ganker version of “educate urself”

              >nerf shoryuken startup to make up for it being a one button bind
              >now shoryuken cant be used as a reversal anymore
              very cool

              You don’t have to balance it that way. You can change the hitstun or damage values even to accommodate simpler inputs. But why are you even talking about Hadouken when it isn’t a complex move?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You do understand that frames are used in fighting games right?
                Like surely you're not this moronic right?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I do know this. What I am saying is put the balancing more on frame data, damage, or hitstun values and less on finger pretzels.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Are you genuinely this moronic anon? Have you fricking even seen a fighting game patch note?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes. For the final time, I am saying to ditch 4+ input attacks and make them 3 or less while focusing the balancing around those other values instead of claiming that the moves are balanced around the complexity of the input. You are literally too seething with moron rage to understand me apparently.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but I think what he's saying is that frame data balanced on inputs is in place for a reason (so the faster frame moves take more effort, otherwise people would be spamming booms and flash kicks ala SFIV 3DS). You make it sound like you believe frame data balance doesn't exist in input-heavy games when that is far from the truth.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                and I'm saying that you're moronic and full of shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I wrote shoryuken, moron. How would changing hitstun or damage change how this move that is strictly for reversals and anti airs make a difference?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not even saying copy Smash’s inputs, I’m just saying that bloated move lists with 3-5 inputs for most attacks is going to keep fighting game audiences small compared to what they could be.
                [...]
                Ah, the Ganker version of “educate urself”
                [...]
                You don’t have to balance it that way. You can change the hitstun or damage values even to accommodate simpler inputs. But why are you even talking about Hadouken when it isn’t a complex move?

                I aborted the sentence in the middle and now its fricked.
                I mean how would changing the hitstun or damage make a meaningful difference?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Ignore him he’s not comprehending that damage, hitstun, framedata and inputs are all difficulty valves used already to balance moves.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And you aren’t getting that I am attacking this mentality here

                Risk / reward. Doing a complicated input gives you a more powerful move than just pressing an attack button on its own, but you might mess up the sequence and it leaves your fingers unable to do other inputs. Almost every other game genre out there has some type of risk / reward structure (eg. powerful spell has a high chance of failing, powerful guns having smaller amount of ammo, powerful soldiers that require lots of resources), fighting games have powerful moves being tied to complicated inputs as their balancing mechanic.

                that we need inputs to be complex to balance moves.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                homie, I mastered those inputs when I was 8 years old. They ar not difficult or complex at all. Are you saying you have worse motorics than an 8-year old?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I’m saying adults (the majority of gamers) don’t have the time to do what they did at 8 years old. Grinding move lists is not fun when there are other games you could play that don’t require spending dozens of hours learning just to not get embarrassed in an online match.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Complexity is a perfectly fine balance tool. If you don’t have complexity you wind up with brawl metaknight where superior frame data just rules unopposed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget that Brawl Metaknight didn't have to play the same game every other character did on top of having win buttons.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                And then he got rebalanced to where it’s not a problem. It didn’t take adding steps to perform his moves to do that.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                My bad, I glossed over shoryuken. Shoryuken isn’t a complicated move either. My gripe is with moves that need many button and directional inputs to work.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                like fricking what

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He's gonna name KOF inputs or some shit like Summon Suffering.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                ah yes I bet raging storm would be just as iconic if it was a one button bind.
                and clearly kof is ruined because one character out of 50 has such an input.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                the vast majority of games released since sf4 don't have anything more complicated than a srk or half circle and have very lenient inputs. Weird stuff is Ivy from SC6 and maybe some tekken shit with just frames and some obscure anime fighters that 100 people play with pretzel motions.
                the strictest shit I've run into outside of just frames were half circles back in Marvel 3 and only a couple of characters even used them.
                Eliminating motion inputs destroys the depth of move lists that some characters enjoy (see DNF duel where everyone has the exact same short movelist) and removes the existence of charge characters completely.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Only thing I can think that you MIGHT be talking about would be inputting an ultra in sf4, needed to do a motion input plus hitting three separate punch buttons.

                But anon, you know on a controller you can just press the LB button right? LB was bound to be all three punches so that controllerp layers can easily do ultras and EX moves.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >balance moves by number of frames it takes for the move to happen and for the character to recover.
            I genuinely am unsure if people posting in these threads are moronic or pretending to be.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >nerf shoryuken startup to make up for it being a one button bind
            >now shoryuken cant be used as a reversal anymore
            very cool

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >nerf shoryuken startup to make up for it being a one button bind
            >now shoryuken cant be used as a reversal anymore
            very cool

            they actually did that with Ed in SFV too. he has babby inputs where PPP triggers his ex shoryuken equivalent. because capcom thought thats ridiculous they made the startup slower.
            the consequence?

            now you can option select Ed on wakeup with a jab. if he blocks on wakeup or presses a button he has to hold your jab. if he presses his ex upper reversal your jab recovers fast enough so that you can block the ex upper coming out and he will eat shit.
            you now created a move that is functionally very different from another by simply changing the framedata to adjust for the input difference.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >smash
            >balance

            Yea frick right off. Smash is bottom of the barrel garbage made for brain dead kids.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              that'd be SFV and licensed anime fighters like P4A and shit. Melee and the new Smash are scraping the bottom of the barrel, but aren't the bottom themselves.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In terms of fighting game balance, SMash is absolutely at the bottom of the barrel.

                You can't use smash at all when disguising balance. That game is horribly unbalance.

                Not him but I was Top 500 in Overwatch and played in TF2 tourneys for 5 years before that. I did well in SC2 as well. I primarily play fighting games now though.

                [...]
                Because the move that comes out after the 720 deals a shitton of damage. It's risk/reward.

                Ok but why? When you have games that require so much to do something like move linking you have a problem. Fighting games ask too much for simplistic things that shouldn't require so much and they always hide it under this "balance, risk/reward" bs.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >but why
                Because it's fun. It's satisfying to pull these moves off in a match and reap the rewards of your effort. If you don't find it fun go play something else instead of trying sand down a genre that's been refined for years.

                Or better get go play on of the multitude of fighters that appeals to your sensibilities like Granblue Versus, Strive, or SamSho.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Yea frick right off. Smash is bottom of the barrel garbage made for brain dead kids.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You really believe inputs are balanced around casual players dropping them in a panic? The only people that play these games are fans.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            pro players drop long strings too. you dont like fighting games, thats fine. stick to smash bros. why do you insist the entire genre be destroyed to cater to no skill "people" like yourself?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I can tell you're a consolegay. The kind of c**t to play an fps with a gamepad and a built-in aimbot.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the more solid and probably more honest answer is "because that's simply the way it is and it doesn't really need to be defended", but the more satisfying answer is that in the case of srk, it makes it harder to always anti air on reaction due to both the difficulty as well as the additional 2-3 frames due to input, and for all motion inputs an additional benefit is that you can have 2-3 or even up to 6 versions of a move, speaking for conventional 2D fighters at least. my personal answer is that it's just more fun, I think everyone would sacrifice a little bit of ergonomics for a cooler car that's more fun to drive.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This is a post from someone who has never been flash kicked in their 1 frame gap and it shows.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >why are these inputs still implemented into every game?
        Same reason you're not given the best armor and weapon at the beginning in any RPG but because the improvement in fighting games is player-side instead of character side like in any other game these days, people b***h because they're lazy.
        The others answered pretty well but one of the main reasons why you can't just press A and do the super-duper mega Kamehameha is that it trivializes the game.

        Fighters are games about learning to fight, they're not adventure games or role playing games. The core of the game is the fighting, that's why they're called fighting games.

        If you press one button and you frag the other dude, what has been achieved? why are you playing games to begin with? you're playing games to overcome obstacles and thus achieve "fun" in your brain.
        If there are no obstacles, you just drop the game and go do something else. Seriously, you never asked yourself these questions? what would happen if in MMOS you were just given all the best gear, in FPS games everybody just died when you started the match, in sports games you just won the match after pressing play?

        The point of RPGs/MMORPGs is that you go on an adventure with others and improve your character.

        The point of a racing game is that you are first to cross the finish line.

        The point of a FPS game is that you eliminate the opposing team/players.

        The point of fighting games and why they still exist is that you improve your skill set and then measure your skill against other players.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          In this case those inputs are a barrier to entry that after you overcome stops being a consideration. If you play an old RPG and have to learn your way around the shitty interface that's an initial hurdle, but after it's done you never consider it again unless it's in retrospect.
          I hate to bring up smash since it's a fairly different game but easy inputs, or even one button inputs, don't end up instantly fragging the opponent as there's still other considerations; like positioning, start/end lag, risk/reward, etc. which are all generally considered more important to the actual fight than practicing your move inputs for consistency. There's also still practicing combos for consistency, so that element doesn't vanish either, just the barrier to entry of actually being able to perform your base abilities.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >those inputs are a barrier to entry that after you overcome stops being a consideration
            That's the game though. It's not a "barrier to entry", it's just the game.
            I don't think the people who come up with this type of suggestion actually want to play fighting games, they just want something else that i can't begin to imagine because i can't read their minds.

            Fighting games are fighting games because of the complex inputs and you never fully master any character so you keep practicing new moves and combos, which is basically the game. You develop a style and are known for that guy who can drop the hard combo or that guy who is great at something else. Saying "it's just a barrier you get over and then it doesn't matter" is. . a puerile comment. Of course it matters, you're learning to play a game just like you're learning to ride a bike. Ridiculous.
            Smash is a party game, made to be easy to pick up and play. Making all games like smash isn't a solution, nor is it a solution to water down complex games in order to appeal to people who fundamentally do not want to play fighting games, no matter how cool you make them look, how sexy you make the female characters look, how great the stages are, etc. They don't want to do the core thing when it comes to fighting games, and that is learning and practice.

            tl;dr you're asking to destroy a genre because reasons.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            you shouldnt bring up smash because it just makes you sound moronic.
            yeah other aspects of the game would work without motion inputs. we know. actual fighting games (so not smash) without motions have been done. but they are shit and offer less than fighting games with motions.
            they add the kind of flavor that doesnt exist without them. guile is a distinct character just like ryu is just like zangief is. ryu and guile are so different despite both having the same tools on paper more or less. but the difference in motions makes them completely unique to each other.
            you are asking for less flavor than what a fricking SNES game offered.

            also I have to say that every smash character having the same input binds is fricking boring and its a lesser game because of that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Fighting game
          >The goal is to learn fighting, not fighting itself.

          I had more fun mashing buttons for moves on the 3ds version of SF than I did with my arcadestick autistically learning all the moves.

          Anon, if you want a game to be about learning to fight, you don't need to actually fight anyone. Just have a training mode where you learn all the moves, and once you're done, you can move on to the next game.

          If you actually want to fight other players, having elaborate inputs to do a single thing just gets in the way. Like, imagine having to manually reload in an fps. That would be cool for /k/tards, but not for people who just want to play an FPS.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Having button inputs just gets in the way of the cinematics
            Leave.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't say I wanted the cinematics. I said that I liked leveraging a move to fight the enemy, not to be an autist mashing buttons to get that same move out.

              I would be okay with pressing single buttons for a simple moves. It's not about flashy moves. It's about not having to be a concerto pianist to do something to begin with. Then it just becomes about who can be the best spastic in the game. Look at tekken. High level play is just players spasming all over the field to not get hit. If you'd have had a simple back- or frontstep button, you could just press it and not break your wrists in the process.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Thats the end result of arguments like yours. Just cutting to chase where it gets exposed for how flawed it is.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They are fun to do. I enjoy doing them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because they are a fun skill barrier, that opens the door to unique player interactions moreso than a single timed button prompt.
        Why can't people who want games to be more like movies just drop gaming entirely and get into movies.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I've put hundreds of hours into fighting games. I still can't do srk or even a fireball with 100% accuracy all the time.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >I've put hundreds of hours into fighting games. I still can't do srk or even a fireball with 100% accuracy all the time.
        something is wrong with your brain if that's the case

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        if there's nothing wrong with your hands then you must be way overthinking it. steering a car is harder than Street Fighter combos.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        that is truly embarrassing

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If u use your brain good fighting games are hard to understand
    Stop playing shits like nrs games tekken kof arcsys games these shits made for ppl who cant play good fightinggames

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there are no good fighting games. if you play this genre youre just too moronic to play anything else.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        what games do you play

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >noooo we need to make every feature as simple as possible so that every mouthbreathing moron can use it
    phone design has ruined an era

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What's funny is that the simpler they make it, the harder they'll get beat down.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Everything has to be for everyone, besides the people that actually built it up, you fricking BIGOT. Having a variety of genres and styles for a myriad of tastes just isn't INCLUSIVE enough.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    If guys like you put even half the effort into getting good fundamentals with only normal attacks, as you do b***hing and whining and snivelling about input schemes, you'd all be unbeatable motherfrickers to 80% of other people who play.
    Instead you cry, lose, cry, lose more, cry even more, then come on here crying.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    At this point I think every
    >wow fighting games bad
    thread is just some moron who plays fighting games trying to stir the pot. No one is trying to convince morons to like fighting games. If you try one communities will do all they can to help you. The meme of "accessibility" has been played too hard.
    At best you can look at old school GG with 6 different bnbs for midscreen due to individual character gravity values but any fighting game made since like 2009 is easy enough. The term 09ers exists for a reason.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    u can talk shit all you want but when youre looking at the move list and it says do K+P its moronic. just say press triangle+square.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This I literally don't know what buttons are being asked so I just quit. Clearly they don't want me to play

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        hows life with low iq

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >It's another "OP doesn't play fighting games" thread

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You're just thinking of anime games, which are almost always bloated mechanically.

    The problem nowadays is that devs have no idea how to balance tbe skill floor and ceiling. The floor should be as low as possible while the ceiling should be as high, too many games fumble this by focusing only in the floor and not the ceiling.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      competent naoto players make me want to fricking kill myself

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You can make the most braindead game of all time and people that don't play fighting games will still complain about it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        you can make a fighting game with only one button and people will still complain about it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ?t=135

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And they did, too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because games arent meant to be played at high levels you are supposed to just mash buttons with your friends while eating pizza. These giganerds take everything too far and ruin a good time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Then play with your friends

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is no matter how low the skill floor is, scrubs will still get beaten and expect the skill ceiling to drop to their level. There is a reason why so many modern games have shit like autoaim.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lowering the skill floor is a complete fallacy because a casual won't even care to learn the game.
      They don't say a game is too hard because the systems are complicated, they say it's too hard because they lose.
      That's it.
      There's nothing more to it.
      Designing easy mechanics and logical tutorials in an effort to draw in casuals is a waste of fricking time.
      If you want a casual audience, you need casual modes that you can play casually, a 1v1 duel is always very in your face and requires full attention. Even if you have two complete morons just mashing buttons with no idea what they're doing, one of them will feel like he lost because it's his fault and he's not skilled.
      SC3 is a perfect example of a casual friendly fighter. It's a fricking objectively shit game in terms of the fighting itself, but it's casual fun and it had an kinds of fun modes, beautiful presentation, character customization and a ton of cool characters and amazing little details like how you can hit different buttons on the text input screen and there'd be a slice effect across the tile from different directions according to which button you hit.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The only real bad input in modern games is the kbd in tekken, extremely high barrier for an essential basic function, sort of like if perfect HHS pianoing was mandatory for every character in SF.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      whats KBD

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        korean backdash. it was an exploit that eventually became an official mechanic, if you want to retreat at any sort of viable speed you have to learn it or you'll just get mobbed.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          i mean whats the input

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            B DB B in a rapid rhythm, doesn't sound to tough but you have to be very clean or you'll get failed QCF or BB inputs that will ruin it. This is something you need to do for 99% of the match.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Sounds like boring shit like most high level fighting games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      kbd isn't too bad. there just isn't much of a way to change simply because of how motion canceling in tekken works to begin with. i guess you could give more characters command dashes or something though

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      korean backdash. it was an exploit that eventually became an official mechanic, if you want to retreat at any sort of viable speed you have to learn it or you'll just get mobbed.

      B DB B in a rapid rhythm, doesn't sound to tough but you have to be very clean or you'll get failed QCF or BB inputs that will ruin it. This is something you need to do for 99% of the match.

      Bro it's just back then QCB. It's not fricking hard

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      it's basically an exploit that they just left in thoug, right? not really an 'intended input'

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Ganker constantly make threads about a genre they don't play complaining about how they need to implement changes which already have happened and then ignoring every example of such?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      bitches gonna b***h

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    just say that dp motion too hard. no need to make a convoluted cope thread like this.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Alright. DP is hard to input on my controller, so I don't like it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        hold forward and then do a hadoken thats not hard on any controller tbh.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Best looking fighter but dear god what the frick is this

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      hmm, it's....really easy compared to 90s kof combos

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Trial 6 and onwards is bullshit

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          bro these are slow combos have you not ever played marvel vs capcom 2 or something

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      once you understand that kof reads inputs one motion for multiple moves these really aren't that hard such as at the end of trial 9 the 214 LK is also starting the 2141236 LK super so after the initial 214 LK you just roll the stick forwards 1236 LK.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        AME ZE

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      kof has weirdly lenient buffers for your buttons but xiii doesn't have as much motion correction as other modern games so your motions have to be clean but the actual timing windows are almost like an anime game

      90% of kof combos is just learning how to buffer your specials together in one fluid motion eg 62363214

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why doesn't the game just outright tell me this?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          because these concepts are almost thirty years old anon

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah and fricking moving backwards and forwards and crouching are older but it's still in tutorials.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            So frick everyone that hasn't been playing for decades I guess

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              if you play fighting games you are the type of person to look things up

              i dont get what the complaint is. its the #1 genre you have to look shit up. are you acting like you wouldnt look it up?

              why do people just sit here all day and concoct fake shit to complain about? its so fricking gay

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              it's an autism check to keep normalBlack folk away
              it doesn't stop trannies sadly

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          labbing is gameplay in the mind of jp devs

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Because SNK bad and really behind the curve when it comes to plenty of things.
          Only Namco is more useless with Tekken when it comes to explaining shit. Interestingly enough Soul Calibur actually has a really comprehensive ingame resource that explains characters and shit.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Some anons here don't realize that the reason why fighting games even got a resurgence in the first place is because most of Japan finally listened into streamlining some controls for people to play.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what? SF4 is more autistic about its combo system than previous SF games.
      it had nothing to do with that, it was just released after a decade of no SF and people were craving that because they played 2 on the Super Nintendo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      So why is every brain dead game like GBFVS dead?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        jap lack of business acumen, trying to sell fighting games for $140 for the whole game

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Granblue is dead because of bad netcode
        DNF is dead because getting ToD'd off of a blocked hit isn't fun

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I really fricking hate that we are only recently getting good netcode. trying to play something like sf4 is a fricking nightmare.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SF4 is a nightmare regardless.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Still annoyed there's no Street Fighter 3 and Capcom vs SNK 2 release with high quality rollback net-code
      I'd probably just play them all the time if it was released.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Have you never heard of fightcade?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          not that anon, but Fightcade isn't for me. i prefer playing all my games outta Steam so my hours, chievos, and friends are all collected and displayed in one place. any game i gotta run a seperate program or launcher to access is a pass from me. except for eroge, naturally. that's why i'd really like to see Marvel 2, Third Strike, Alpha 3, and CVS2 re-released on modern platforms as standalone titles with rollback.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            thats very fricking pathetic m8.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Stages are a vestigial feature

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              it's just how i came up playing games online, mate. i used to track all that stuff through Xbox Live in the Xbox 360 days, now i track it with Steam. having all that stuff hosted on one platform is super comfy.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this but the insert, end, home, pause and sys rq keys

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if you don't use ins/end/home frequently you just don't know how to use a computer well/aren't a skilled typist.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    so what's the title?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the design of everyday things.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        thank you!

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The fricking thing you gays are missing, is that nobody is fricking asking to trivialize the genre.

    The book is simply complaining about sinken ship designs, piece of moronic Blacks.

    Go and watch any game design lecture about Mario bros 1 for the NES.
    Top tier amazing design.

    Have you ever considered how many mechanics can you do in SMB 1?

    You got two fricking buttons, and they easily map to walk, dash, power ups (mushroom, flower, star), break blocks, get coins, jump, super jump, hop, horizontal block hop, 1 live up combos, secret blocks, run and crouch trick, kill enemies with jumps, stars, and getting hurt with spikies, swim, climb.

    Have you ever fricking considered how many mechanics can you do with just two buttons without requiring motion inputs?

    Fricking idiots defending garbage sinken ships.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Weird ESL post.
      Guess what: Nearly every action in mario requires motion inputs. Without them you can only jump upwards.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >fgc moron will now claim that walking and jumping is a motion arcade input

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          they literally are. and they can be very complex inputs too because they are often based on momentum and the state of mario.

          on top of that the things you listed dont even make up for the movelist of a single character in a typical fighting game. its almost all just marios very limited moveset interacting with the world.
          that makes sense because its a platformer, but guess what: fighting games are not.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >missing the point
            >games where you dont have input buffers have motion inputs
            >Long range jumps in SMB1 are motion inputs
            man, learn to code, fricking dumb kid.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Long range jumps in SMB1 are motion inputs
              they literally are though. its forward+jump.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >games without input buffers have motion inputs
                kys

                but I want to fight people 1v1 with big movesets.

                yes, but read again.

                Good designs are like chess.

                look up good designs like kof 2002, kof 98, SFII.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                jesus christ take your meds.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, learn game design.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >learn game design
                Given how shit games are these days after "game design" schools, you're probably better off just making what you like.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Can mario punch things?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He can in 64. His punch range is short though.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Tatsumaki?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            He has a breakdance kick move in 64 that’s kind of useless, but he does a lariat in Galaxy.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fighting games have less buttons than other games because of their arcade roots. UI design is also very good.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >making up excuses to remove features but charge the same price or more
    This is why phones are removing headphone jacks and why SD cardslots are rare now. This is why all sorts of genres have been replaced with gay ass normalgay varients no one asked for(like arena shooters dying to be replaced by loadout shooters)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The fricking thing you gays are missing, is that nobody is fricking asking to trivialize the genre.

      The book is simply complaining about sinken ship designs, piece of moronic Blacks.

      Go and watch any game design lecture about Mario bros 1 for the NES.
      Top tier amazing design.

      Have you ever considered how many mechanics can you do in SMB 1?

      You got two fricking buttons, and they easily map to walk, dash, power ups (mushroom, flower, star), break blocks, get coins, jump, super jump, hop, horizontal block hop, 1 live up combos, secret blocks, run and crouch trick, kill enemies with jumps, stars, and getting hurt with spikies, swim, climb.

      Have you ever fricking considered how many mechanics can you do with just two buttons without requiring motion inputs?

      Fricking idiots defending garbage sinken ships.

      see

      The fricking thing you gays are missing, is that nobody is fricking asking to trivialize the genre.

      The book is simply complaining about sinken ship designs, piece of moronic Blacks.

      Go and watch any game design lecture about Mario bros 1 for the NES.
      Top tier amazing design.

      Have you ever considered how many mechanics can you do in SMB 1?

      You got two fricking buttons, and they easily map to walk, dash, power ups (mushroom, flower, star), break blocks, get coins, jump, super jump, hop, horizontal block hop, 1 live up combos, secret blocks, run and crouch trick, kill enemies with jumps, stars, and getting hurt with spikies, swim, climb.

      Have you ever fricking considered how many mechanics can you do with just two buttons without requiring motion inputs?

      Fricking idiots defending garbage sinken ships.

      play a game with a good design, SMB, not your trash pantsu pantsu pedo fighters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        but I want to fight people 1v1 with big movesets.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker: constantly jerks off about how based gatekeeping is
    >also Ganker: makes threads daily about how fighting games have to change

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Single-button normal attacks
    >Button + direction attacks
    >Motion inputs for even more attacks
    >Running, crouching and jumping variants for more attacks
    >More buttons + more inputs = more attacks
    You israelites hate motion inputs so much and then when a game that doesn't have or need them comes out, you make up every reason possible to not try them just so you can keep making these moronic threads

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >put in coop metroidvania with gear and loot
    >casuals can learn combos,inputs,states etc without sitting in the lab learning shit they cant apply anyway
    here I just solved the problem

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      All that will do is teach bad habits since AI characters in a game similar to Smash’s Subspace Emissary will act completely different from a human player in a traditional match. I remember one mode that worked for helping me understand the game was Edge Master or whatever it was called in Soul Caliber 2. It was a bunch of situational matches where you had particular win conditions for each fight in a cheesy tabletop-like adventure mode.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >teach bad habits
        not really as you can have special enemies that rush in, counter poke, block dp, hadouken or backdash or emulate low or mid level players.
        them fighting herds did something like this.
        >Soul Caliber 2
        yeah everyone loved that, mk11 towers are similar and people still play them

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          impossible.
          its not a thing because it cant be a thing.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            stop coping, those slit eyed devs are just as lazy as everyone else in the industry

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              t. nodev

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >hurr durr we should remove saturated sound from metal music because it's not coherent with our modern sound equipment blasting 32bits

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Bros
    I'm gonna see the mountaintop with SF6. I haven't gone hard since UMVC3 but I'm doing it again.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the beta for 6 was the best time I've had in a fighting game in years, hopefully the infrastructure for the full game is even better, I'm really grateful that they're going back to a character ranking system rather than just your player rank like the have in 5. Just gotta wait half a decade for the characters I like to return

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    look
    basically i'm just not gonna
    wait for long load times
    i know.... ugh i know.....
    i'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    it's just that
    i'm not gonna
    wait for long load times
    HAHAHAHA
    HAHAHAHA
    HAHAHAHA
    HAHAH

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny that Ganker prides itself as the last bastion for trve hardcore gaymen and yet we have a thread about fighting games being too hard every other day.

    Special moves and combos aren't even the real gatekeepers here. You would still get smoked in neutral.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the fgc are moronic and think casuals need the same gameplay as the EVO players.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Said who?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Me.

          The problem is usually more that casuals confuse their casual mashing with actually knowing how the game works
          it's a Gankerery common disease here

          I mean the issue is usually dumbing down the competitive aspects.

          What casuals want is a solid single player mode, like the kof JRPG of psx, maybe some basic jrpg story mode where the fights are maybe like the SNES or psx tales.

          Casuals dont bother with online or autistic EVO shit.

          They're not afraid of learning a shoryuken, they're simply bored after playing a basic arcade mode.

          Fricking moronic gay genre that thinks every fan of this stupid genre wants to play competitive shit or online.

          homie, just make a fricking 2D metroidvania or 2D beatem up that plays like a 2D DMC or 2D bayonetta.
          No need to put anything beyond local versus.

          Frick this shit moronic comunity.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            where do you braindead morons even come from

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I'm one of those casuals you gays complain about.

              I play fighters but only the arcade vs cpu mode.

              I don't bother with online.

              Will you complain I am not one of the true fans of this genre because I don't bother playing other humans, moron?

              Are you part of the FGC?

              I'm friend of the 5th best kof player in my Hispanic shithole.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Will you complain I am not one of the true fans of this genre because I don't bother playing other humans, moron?
                Yes.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Will you complain I am not one of the true fans of this genre because I don't bother playing other humans
                yes. I will also call a shitbrained moron because you put up with garbage fighting game single player.

                >spic
                man I hate this recent third world invasion of Ganker. you are all mentally ill and have the most moronic opinions.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Are you part of the FGC?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >What casuals want is a solid single player mode
            So why don't they play them?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              play what?

              100% of fighting games have the same shit as playing any crappy 2D fighter maker doujin fighter.

              They don't have nothing but maybe training modes.

              >Will you complain I am not one of the true fans of this genre because I don't bother playing other humans, moron?
              Yes.

              ah, yes, the gatekeepers that tell me I'm just too dumb to do ramon cancels on 02, instead of that shit being ultra autism.

              >Will you complain I am not one of the true fans of this genre because I don't bother playing other humans
              yes. I will also call a shitbrained moron because you put up with garbage fighting game single player.

              >spic
              man I hate this recent third world invasion of Ganker. you are all mentally ill and have the most moronic opinions.

              And what I'm supposed to play?

              Training mode againts an idle dummy?

              What else is there in most fighters beyond the arcade mode?
              Want to teach me, genius?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >gatekeepers are le bad
                man why are Gankercels such hypocrites?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                again, morono.

                What am I supposed to play besides the arcade mode?

                labbing is boring after like 10 minutes of practicing a combo.
                And I'm not a comboboar to brag I can do autistic combo shit, nor I need autistic combo shit because I am not a competitive player.

                morono.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Play with friends obviously.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I already played with friends when I was 20 and I no longer have interest in dealing with that drama shit now.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >cries that playing fighting games involves playing them

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >What am I supposed to play besides the arcade mode?
                With other people you sperg. This is like getting angry that shitposting requires an internet connection.
                That being said, shit like SF6 will have that big epic world tour thing, and even GBVS has that awkward ass beat em up mode for the sufficiently bored

                yes, I do love playing againts the cpu in the arcade mode?

                Will you make any cope I'm not le true fighting game pure enjoyer because I don't want to deal again with homosexual drama of playing againts a human, but do you want me to play online, which is lag festival and scrubs being scrubs and try hards to basically have macro gamepads and can easily do daigo parries with a single button?

                Do you seriously think the epic GGPO taiwanese masters are le epic masters and not macro gays?

                Most other genres are like playing an even more casual version of 1994 fighting games.

                Even elden ring is just a baby tier fighting game.
                Elden ring is just playing maybe, maybe kof 95 versus rugal.

                Is just autism, just like trying to beat rugal 95.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you crying about cope while coping yourself?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >moronic Ganker morons think playing versus macro players is le epic fun
                Kys man.

                Online is filled with autistic macro morons.
                Frick off.

                >yes, I want to basically get a 98 perfect combo from an instant weak normal
                kys.

                you don't play fighters.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So why are you constantly posting about how you don't play fighting games?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >homosexual drama of playing againts a human
                Have you tried just playing the game instead of messaging random Black folk? Or alternatively, picking games that have extra modes that aren't arcade and versus like I just fricking said instead of whining that a bare bones game is bare bones
                >basically have macro gamepads and can easily do daigo parries with a single button?
                post 30 seconds with evidence of this actually happening, people who cry about macros are near universally morons with skill issues or no conception of what an "option select" is

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                yes, I do love playing againts the cpu in the arcade mode?

                Will you make any cope I'm not le true fighting game pure enjoyer because I don't want to deal again with homosexual drama of playing againts a human, but do you want me to play online, which is lag festival and scrubs being scrubs and try hards to basically have macro gamepads and can easily do daigo parries with a single button?

                Do you seriously think the epic GGPO taiwanese masters are le epic masters and not macro gays?

                Most other genres are like playing an even more casual version of 1994 fighting games.

                Even elden ring is just a baby tier fighting game.
                Elden ring is just playing maybe, maybe kof 95 versus rugal.

                Is just autism, just like trying to beat rugal 95.

                hard mode: not using some shit emulated game on fightcade as an example either

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >play a genre built around 1v1 games
                >what am I supposed to do by myself?
                Play a different game

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >What am I supposed to play besides the arcade mode?
                With other people you sperg. This is like getting angry that shitposting requires an internet connection.
                That being said, shit like SF6 will have that big epic world tour thing, and even GBVS has that awkward ass beat em up mode for the sufficiently bored

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >labbing is boring after like 10 minutes of practicing a combo.
                If you never entered training mode to grind out combos and checked the time to see that you just spent 2 hours on this shit when it felt like 30 minutes then you're simply not made for this genre.
                And that's okay.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not gonna lie, I've spent like 6+ hours in training mode just listening to music and pressing buttons to see how different things link.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                frick off spic

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is usually more that casuals confuse their casual mashing with actually knowing how the game works
        it's a Gankerery common disease here

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker thinks being a hardcore gamer is playing some visual novel nobody has ever heard of.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Don't change fighting games, make new and better fighting games to replace the old ones.
    It's quite baffling to me that the biggest names in the industry focus on recreating their older games over and over instead of trying different things.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      there is literally nothing baffling about it.
      the games arent cheap to make. nobody wants flops and new franchises carry that risk. on top of that fans of said games do demand sequels anyways.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They should make sequels as long as those sequels are profitable, but they should also make spinoffs and new franchises to push the genre/medium forward. Eventually some of those new creations drive enough interest to push the older ones out of existence because nobody will care about them anymore.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So why is Ganker so bad at every game?

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    where did moronic friendless shiteaters get the impression from that people ever bought fighting games for their dogshit single player?

    they were bought for couch play. not tournament play, but playing with family and friends like other party games.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I dunno about fighting games but this describes Monster Hunter to a T

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fighting games used to have some kind of single player progression. You had a roster and each character had a unique ending. You'd unlock bonus characters and costumes. It was something to do in between times when your friends came over.
    I understand people hate unlocked characters because they want to "main" someone on a fresh install and don't want to unlock them first. But by hyper focusing on online competitive there's now nothing for casuals to entertain themselves with. And casuals are the people who ballooned SF4's sales figures and walked away from SFV and T7.
    I'm all for gatekeeping, if you want your FGC games to be laser focussed on online competition then you should be perfectly allowed to. However fighting games are expensive to produce and these days even more expensive to maintain and there aren't enough of you to pay for that. If fighting games don't re-learn what attracted casuals to the genre they'll be shelved again for another 10 years.
    tl;dr casuals want content, not dumbed down moves.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dont worry, Project L will revolutionize and save the fighting game genre (gigantic cash prize money included!)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      pretty much.

      So why are you constantly posting about how you don't play fighting games?

      ok, morono.

      >homosexual drama of playing againts a human
      Have you tried just playing the game instead of messaging random Black folk? Or alternatively, picking games that have extra modes that aren't arcade and versus like I just fricking said instead of whining that a bare bones game is bare bones
      >basically have macro gamepads and can easily do daigo parries with a single button?
      post 30 seconds with evidence of this actually happening, people who cry about macros are near universally morons with skill issues or no conception of what an "option select" is

      what do I play?

      Againts the imaginary locals that died in my town in 2009?

      Do you want me to spend 2 hours traveling to the closest maybe locals I have?

      >labbing is boring after like 10 minutes of practicing a combo.
      If you never entered training mode to grind out combos and checked the time to see that you just spent 2 hours on this shit when it felt like 30 minutes then you're simply not made for this genre.
      And that's okay.

      I just don't give a fricking shit you can do Geese infinites or K'9999

      I have better shit to grind like learning japanese and my studies than wasting my time grinding combos.

      gay.

      [...]
      hard mode: not using some shit emulated game on fightcade as an example either

      I have kof 02 on steam and other fighters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        So you don't play fighting games but want to be validated as playing them and seethe when people don't accept you?
        Are you trans?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          do you want me to post me doing the basic Max mode combos on magic plus 2?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't give a frick what you do. I just know you want attention for doing nothing.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Fighting games are for Black folk, Mexicans, and chinks

          They're a remnant of the arcade era when white kids had consoles and everyone else had to spend their lunchmoney on SF2

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I find this the funniest cope from Gankercels.
            >le Black folk are dumb
            >le fighting games are played by le Black folk
            >le fighting games are too hard
            What the frick does that say about you then incel?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I never said Black folk were dumb or that I'm bad at fighting games. I'm saying they're a remnant of a bygone era that hasn't sufficiently evolved in gameplay for nearly 30 years

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Uh huh sure pal, keep coping.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Fighting games aren't hard in and of themselves. The competitive scene is filled with tryhards who literally only play FGs. The community makes it unbalanced.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Yes I'm sure the community spent hours and hours to discover moronic shit like the mortal kombat jab infinite that any braindead Black folkpawn could figure out in three seconds

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They literally did. There's a reason why the meme "secret Discord tech" exists

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Tryhard is such a hilarious term to me.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >what do I play?
        >Againts the imaginary locals that died in my town in 2009?
        How about with the online modes of the online games you have that can be played online using your internet connection to find players that could be online?
        Or don't be a lazy Black person and make your own locals, it's easier than it sounds even if you live in bumfrick fricking nowhere

        Or even better, just don't play games ever again and stop posting

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I don't give a frick what you do. I just know you want attention for doing nothing.

          why do you Black folk think I want to be a competitive player?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you so desperate for approval?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              what fricking approval, morono?

              I love playing againts the CPU.

              I simply don't bother with online or locals.

              I just wish there was a JRPG mode where I can play something like ToP in SNES besides the arcade mode.

              Is that too dificult to understand.
              gay?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If you're not desperate for approval, why are you still here posting trying to justify your actions? Clearly this is from your insecurity.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >why do you Black folk think I want to be a competitive player?
            When did I say that? You asked who the frick to play with, I gave you an answer

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              If you're not desperate for approval, why are you still here posting trying to justify your actions? Clearly this is from your insecurity.

              Black person, I want to fricking play a fricking 2D DMC, not some autismo lab shit versus some gay playing with a lag pedal and a macro gamepad.

              Black folk.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Then play fricking side scroller indie games instead of fighting games
                what the frick was the point of this thread then

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yes, the glorious 2D garbage where I can't do cancels, supers, or anything but maybe press square and square and maybe square.
                And maybe roll.

                gay.

                The most complex shit you can do in SOTN is not even a combo but just jump, atack sword and then crouched sword.

                Wow, totally 100% fun.

                Elden ring is the closest shit to a complex combat system, and that shit is just gay low HP garbage with maybe a roll and just some fireballs and maybe baby tier zoning with the AI.
                And the Bosses are just bullet sponges with just massive hitboxes.

                Wow, such marvel of combat system.
                Literally worse than SNK fighters in 1995.

                I've seen doujin fighters with a more complex combat system than elden ring.

                So you want to lab combos and just press them regurgitated and too scared that something could go wrong?

                No Black person, I want to do kusoge garbage againts the AI that doesn't require autismo lab garbage.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So you DO want a game with highly complex and technical combat, but you DON'T want your technical game to actually require you to "autistically" learn how to do technical or complex things, thus making the game... not complex and not technical?
                Do I need to spell out how utterly nonsensical you're being

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                why do I need autistic hardcore tryhard input shit for a single player game?

                Do I need to balance my inputs so the AI can properly react, morono?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You don't have to on either count obviously, but why say you want complexity if your idea of complexity is patching out complexity? I mean, I guess you did cite DMC and Elden Ring as examples, so it makes sense....

                nah, this anon is right. we need more fully realized fighting games with side-scrolling PVE modes. fighting games have way more depth than beat'em ups. i tried to play SoR4 and that shit is like two buttons, River City Girls 2 is like three buttons and barely has any juggle potential. i want something like FighterZ or Marvel vs Capcom playing out as a PVE experience across a huge ass Castlevania map. sweating it out in Ranked is fine, and playing Arcade Mode is fine too, but i'd really like to use my combos on like six goons or on a cool boss or something. especially these "new" games with less than 20 playable characters where i'm playing a billion mirror matches online.

                >i'd really like to use my combos on like six goons or on a cool boss or something
                It's sad that GBVS is basically the only game I can think of where you can do this.
                But also frick that Black person, he's talking about something different here

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                bro, I want to do this shit, but after 15 years of playing 2002, I can't do this shit.

                And I want to do this in a fricking level like the smash melee mario level againts stupid goombas that are just bullet sponges and I can just make bounce around with launchers.

                >MUGEN autism
                Jesus fricking christ no wonder you're a moron

                another newbie to the genre that never played based mugen.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically, just play Fight'n Rage.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >after 15 years of playing 2002
                How can you have the autism necessary to stick with the same game for fifteen years but not be able to handle a single one of these? Especially the Angel combo which ISN'T THAT HARD LOL

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you know what sucks? i bought GBFV specifically for this, only to find out that the side scroller mode has a different control scheme and different gameplay properties than the actual fighting game portion of the product. so none of the stuff i practiced in training mode even mattered.

                newbies think I want to play beatem ups when that garbage is simpler than smash 64.

                I want to play the mugen level of mario as an fricking real game.

                that's what i described, anon. a full game with a combo system like MVC or FighterZ, playing out across an entire Castlevania map.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                man, imagine playing a fighter and you can basically do a castlevania map, but like you can equip like short macro combo shit, like 4 short weak normals and automatic cancels.

                So like the materia system of FFVII but they're macro shit.

                Unironically, just play Fight'n Rage.

                Man, finally some good shit.
                But It still doesn't reach the level of autism of some fighters.

                >after 15 years of playing 2002
                How can you have the autism necessary to stick with the same game for fifteen years but not be able to handle a single one of these? Especially the Angel combo which ISN'T THAT HARD LOL

                I play for fun, not to make this shit a full time job.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                nah, this anon is right. we need more fully realized fighting games with side-scrolling PVE modes. fighting games have way more depth than beat'em ups. i tried to play SoR4 and that shit is like two buttons, River City Girls 2 is like three buttons and barely has any juggle potential. i want something like FighterZ or Marvel vs Capcom playing out as a PVE experience across a huge ass Castlevania map. sweating it out in Ranked is fine, and playing Arcade Mode is fine too, but i'd really like to use my combos on like six goons or on a cool boss or something. especially these "new" games with less than 20 playable characters where i'm playing a billion mirror matches online.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                newbies think I want to play beatem ups when that garbage is simpler than smash 64.

                I want to play the mugen level of mario as an fricking real game.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >MUGEN autism
                Jesus fricking christ no wonder you're a moron

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So you want to lab combos and just press them regurgitated and too scared that something could go wrong?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you think you want to play theoretical video games if you're this filtered by mechanics?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not everyone that play soccer foir fun want to become a professional soccer player to compete in the champions league.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                If your definition of fun is winning every single game then you've never really had fun.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So single player games aren't real fun?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I've never been beaten or challenged by a single player game on any theoretical level
                They're fun for their constructive challenges.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Okay but, very clearly unlike you (15 YEARS and you can't do a Max Mode combo you're an actual fricking brainlet) that doesn't mean they don't try to learn how to do the cool things that champions do.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                No, I can't do the autism combos, learn to read.

                >I've never been beaten or challenged by a single player game on any theoretical level
                They're fun for their constructive challenges.

                have you played versus other players.

                Always, always.

                It's a scrub you easily stomp.
                It's some much more experienced player that will stomp you.

                You almost never find someone that will provide really a quality challenge.

                And while It's fun to stomp and destroy noob rugals, I no longer have interest in playing humans.

                Because It's only fun if you treat fighters like a job and find a local comunity of other try hards to do try hard shit.

                And I have no intention of playing tryhards who spend hours and hours memorizing dozens of oki and 50/50 and other situational garbage.

                I rather spend my fricking time grinding something more useful than this shit.

                I like the genre, but I hate to play other players, because It's always a scrub that eats the most basic noob spam, which It's just easier than dealing with rugal on the arcade mode.
                Or It's one of the friends of my homosexual /fgc/ local scene, which they can easily do most infinites and ToD from pretty much any situational BS with most characters.

                And I stopped having any interest in dealing with this garbage.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >No, I can't do the autism combos, learn to read.
                It's fine if you played the game 15 years ago, then came back to it but can't do a Max Mode combo. That's perfectly fine.
                But that's not the case, you played the game FOR fifteen years and can't do a strong combo. That's not just incompetence, that's LAZY Black person SHIT
                >captcha HRTXX
                Don't forget to dilate before bed

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                do you Black person realize most of those combos videos are TAS that uses HEX editors to edit the ROM?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                do you Black person speak english or can do a Max Mode combo?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                do you moronic Black person can't comprehent I am not talking about the BnB shit that is done on normal matches, but the tryhard shit that requires bugs and specific matchups in certain conditions?

                Do you think these combos are just lmao just lab for more hours?

                Are u a newbie and don't know most combogay shit requires TAS and hex editors?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >do you moronic Black person can't comprehent
                No, I can't "comprehent" your dogshit English

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd rather spend my time grinding in games that offer less social usability
                See what I said before. Get past that stupid bullshit where you think just knowing the mechanics should earn you a dopamine release in every match. Your definition of a "quality challenge" is an antiquated hyperfixation on players needing to be of a comparative skill level. Learn from your losses, go outside and shit man.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      SFV and T7 sold more than SF4.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Get rid of life bars, force matches to extend to a certain time, and reward points to good play and deduct points from bad play (turtling or spamming)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >design game around not engaging instead

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I did say no turtling.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Your idea encourages nothing but turtling.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You literally get punished for turtling - it's a points based system. If you go in the negative, it can effect movement and damage

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              And playing to a timer encourages noncommital play since it means you won't be punished for a mistake. Who cares if there's a negative to damage or movement, you're still at a plus because you're not engaging and potentially losing.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The timer incentivises continual play, and allows for comebacks and eliminates combo stunlocks

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The timer incentivises continual play
                It doesn't

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Also make parries highly rewarding to incentivise organic combat flow, and punish spams

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        parries are gay

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    modern fighting games be like
    >please disregard our last fighting game you can buy right now for $49.99 with 45 playable characters
    >please buy our new fighting game for $59.99, it will include 14 playable returning characters and 4 new characters for a grand total of 18
    >also, please make sure to stay tuned for the five Seasons of DLC over the next five years where we'll drip feed you 30 more characters at an agonizingly slow pace for $124.99 (including other returning fighters you definitely wish were in the base game)
    >don't forget to check out our Premium Costume Shop!! Cammy's Classic Leotard on sale now for $4.99!
    this genre is almost as bad as mobile games.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    OP, get a trip so we can filter you like you get filtered by fighting games.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker with every other genre
    >git gud gays fricking casuals and journos ruining vidya games
    Ganker with fighters:
    >FRICKING AUTIST TRYHARDS YOU MIGHT BE GOOD AT FIGHTING GAMES BUT AT LEAST I HAVE A LIFE LOSERS

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You can't deny the entertainment value of reading these threads

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I can't wait for the LoL fightan to come out, we haven't had people b***h about throws since the 90s and nowadays we'd see posts like
        >"it is MORALLY WRONG to damage someone while they're BLOCKING, I was SEXUALLY HARASSED by the grapple character and the devs MUST RESPECT their players and add an ACCESSIBILITY MODE with no throws"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Spend thousands of hours in a lab to be okay at one character
      Vs
      >Thousands of hours across different games

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >game that is actually hard and complex
        vs
        >games Ganker pretend are hard and complex

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You are wasting your time with the schizo Hispanic.
    He is shitting up various fighting game threads with his copes about putting work in.
    He also wants to develop a fighter but refuses to learn to code and animate for it so he uses some garbage pirated engine.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Arcsys games went to shit after rev 2. Tekken 7 was just okay, SFV is pretty good after 5 fricking years of updates. Under night and melty are really good, but dead if you want to play online. DBFZ was fun, but had trash netcode just like most fighting games used to. It's been a rough couple of years. I've taken a break from fighters for a while after all the disappointment, but SF6 legitimately looks great, so I'm pretty stoked to get really into a game again. Here's hoping for the best.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Black folk tongue my fighting games

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I wish Virtua Fighter were popular, and VF5U were on every platform.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why people dislike it. It's just better. I guess the characters are a little generic but with customisation who actually cares.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      if Sega believed in it as much as the fans they'd put it on PC and have tournaments and new characters and shit and we might see a revival, at least go the israeli route and pay hundreds of streamers to pretend they're VF OGs like Tekken and Soul Calibur did. I love Yakuza but the fact that it turned Sega into a one-game company kinda sucks.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Yakuza
        The most obvious opportunity right there. Put Kiryu in VF5 (he wouldn't appear too out of place), put VF5 on all systems and all the 'influencers' will flock to it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          kiryu doesnt fight women

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        sega knows that only japan cares about VF so they are hosting japan only events for VF5 still.
        as a matter of fact its featured as a main stage game at evo japan this month.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i love street fighter games bros they are very cool but i doubt i would be able to play sf6, too heavy also try out this brazillian hack of alpha very very very cool, probably my favorite fighter now, and it makes poopy game like alpha 3 actually good fun and addicting (i play it daily at work),
    https://sfz3mix.github.io/

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Git gud.
    Imagine b***hing all the time about lowered industry standards and games getting casualized for the sake of mainstream audiences while at the same time b***hing and moaning about how fighting games are too hard and have to be changed so that crybaby homosexuals who can't figure out how to do a dp can play them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The funniest part is that modern fighting games actually are incredibly easy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >xhe thinks these 2 complaints are made by the same person
      the Ganker is one person schizo posting is getting pretty old. take your meds and go outside.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >homosexuals think I'll waste thousands of hours into labbing combos over spending that time to grind japanese vocabulary

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yet you do neither and post on Ganker hoping someone will respond to you sincerely to give you that momentary dopamine rush of a person acknowledging you.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    fighting games are for morons. its all a knowledge check and muscle memory. theres no deep level thinking.

    youre essentially trying to spam your best moves at all times.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. Kek no wonder fighting game gays look so moronic when playing any other genre even fps.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. Kek no wonder fighting game gays look so moronic when playing any other genre even fps.

      moronic minds think alike. I can tell you got beat up in ranked in SFV or Tekken 7 and started crying about how the OTHER guy is moronic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >fighting game gay calling anyone moronic
        Kek just admit it, your small brain cant handle any other genre. Thats the reason you only play fighting games. Little prefrontal cortex ya got there too bad..

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          why do you type like a retiree on welfare

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        youd get raped if you played chess god forbid an rts. you play a game dumb monkeys are good at.

        you could never play a real hard game.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          why do brainlets always namedrop chess as if they even knew the rules of it?
          at the end of the day its just a shitty board game just how at the end of the day you are just a little homosexual.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >hes already projecting
            christ the moron doesnt even know how to move a chess piece fricking lol

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              cant hear you over your fighting game cope.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I play both of those regularly, I've got a pretty high elo in AoE2 and I've been playing chess and shogi for years. cope harder, homosexual, I'll beat you at literally any of your "real games" because if you're too stupid to do a quarter circle you're too stupid for most things.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            yeah no you dont moron. fighting game dumbfricks cannot handle any other game genre. you cant even play fps without getting raped by a 9 year old

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              whatever you say. speaking of 9 year olds you certainly talk like one.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah youre just mad its true. you have no argument. continue playing your sub 45 iq genre game.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I have no argument? reread your posts where you go "uh hurr no u don't u'd get raped homosexual". people with normal level of intelligence can be good at fightan and other genres, a lot of people in this thread probably are. you just aren't one of them because your parents are siblings.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >going ultra butthurt because bad at fps genre, a baby genre too
                kek you really do have sub 45 iq huh

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm better than you at fps and rts, too. I can tell by the moronic way you talk. you keep bringing up 45 iq, is that in some way personal for you?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                youre the one making it personal tho kek

                and no u cant beat anyone on Ganker dont try acting tough

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                holy God everything you say is probably wrong and moronic. (You) this post if you want, "I accept your concession" or whatever you need to feel like you won, anyone reading this exchange is laughing their ass off at you

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah nice projection moron. you also sound like a 9 year old saying shit like

                >i could beat u up irl homosexual u wouldnt say that to my face

                lol u play fighting games. thats all i need to say.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm better than you at fps and rts, too. I can tell by the moronic way you talk. you keep bringing up 45 iq, is that in some way personal for you?

                youre the one making it personal tho kek

                and no u cant beat anyone on Ganker dont try acting tough

                holy God everything you say is probably wrong and moronic. (You) this post if you want, "I accept your concession" or whatever you need to feel like you won, anyone reading this exchange is laughing their ass off at you

                yeah nice projection moron. you also sound like a 9 year old saying shit like

                >i could beat u up irl homosexual u wouldnt say that to my face

                lol u play fighting games. thats all i need to say.

                JUST MAKE A CHESS DOT COM MATCH OR QUIT BEING SHIT FLINGING MONKEY Black folk

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but I was Top 500 in Overwatch and played in TF2 tourneys for 5 years before that. I did well in SC2 as well. I primarily play fighting games now though.

              The problem with modern fighting games is the moronic execution. Why the frick does shit like a 720 motion input exist in a game where you have to do it in like 4 frames.

              Because the move that comes out after the 720 deals a shitton of damage. It's risk/reward.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Cool larp moron. I was also a nasa astronaut in 2003.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry but if being good at videogames is as unattainable in your mind as having been an astronaut then you must be absolutely braindead

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Calling me braindead? Youre trying to larp on an anonymous website claiming to be a top player.

                You are the definition of moronic.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You're doing reddit spacing right now just letting you know.
                Anyways, having being Top 500 in OW for almost a year isn't even close to having been a "top player". Neither is having competed in TF2.

                dont claim to be some top shit and then not post your username. fricking loser homosexual

                Dude you're crying on Ganker about being shit at fighting games then when you get called out you start crying even more, get a grip.
                Btw I tried looking up my old battlenet tag on some sites just now but it's not showing up. I deleted that account after quitting Overwatch. I'm not giving you my steam account for my TF2 shit.
                I'll be leaving the thread now.

                Has anyone here been to a major before? I'm going to be sharing a hotel with 3 other guys but there's only 2 queen size beds. I'm not gay and I don't plan on having sex, but I really don't want to sleep on the floor either.
                How weird would it be to ask to share the bed? I'm 30

                Just share the bed.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                stay butthurt homosexual. you arent good at video games whatsoever like most of Ganker.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Braindead moron becomes even more angry
                Kek imagine being this sensitive.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                dont claim to be some top shit and then not post your username. fricking loser homosexual

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And rts guys get raped playing fighting games. And fps guys get raped playing rts. It is almost like they are all different genres.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            just because youre moronic as hell doesnt mean everyone else is. fighting games are for button mashing morons and are the only fanbase that cant into any other genre that isnt singleplayer storymodes.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think you are good at any genre

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                and i think youre just butthurt because you play a genre of games for morons.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                You didn't deny my claim

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                why would i deny something i know is objectively false? do you have down syndrome?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don't believe you

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                and i dont care. fighting game gays opinions are as worthless as battle royale gays.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >deep thinking
          >chess
          valid point
          >rts
          You've never played high level rts in your life. Brain activity of top rts players has been studied and there's no deep thinking, that's actually how you can tell someone's really good, they have the game down to instinct since rts is so fast and mechanically intensive.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      fighting games are a genre where peak fun is playing at around an average-to-above-average skill level with your friends. it's only when you start trying to play soulless ranked matches against randos that you run into people who wanna waggle in neutral pressing their best normals over and over again until you frick up and they can combo you for 45% of your lifebar.

      shit happens with shooters too though, they're a blast with friends around your skill level but once that 50/50 SBMM starts throwing you into sweat lobbies with people rehearsing GameBattles strats that your enjoyment of the game starts plummeting.

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This might be a stupid question but bear with me.
    What is the best open world fighting game? Like, I want to run around a big map looking for fights, each instances seamlessly morphing into a 1v1. Most people tell me that it's Dark Souls, but I'm looking for something more traditional.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that indie furry game with bunnies.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      doesnt exist and probably wont exist because it simply doesnt make sense to make that.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      a game where you typically fight only one opponent at a time? That's pretty much the premise of Monster Hunter, which also gives you a complex move set per weapon, and if you wanna fight other humans 1v1 there's Shenmue. it is hard to think of more examples, though, that's a rare bird

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like that people who don't play fighting games and don't understand what makes them work are the ones who barge in and demand changes. It's the epitome of arrogance

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      its literally israeli subversive behavior.
      something Ganker accuses others of doing to their beloved franchises and genres.
      but for fighters its suddenly different. suddenly they NEED to sell out, dumb shit down and pander to mouthbreathers or they are doomed (despite selling more than ever).

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like that people who don't play fighting games and don't understand what makes them work are the ones who barge in and demand changes. It's the epitome of arrogance

        Everything makes sense when you consider that fighting games is one genre where Ganker can't pretend to think they're good at. You have people here that often think they're some hidden god at video games but always blame one factor or another for why they aren't. It's rather ironic when this is the same board that loves to spout the virtues of gatekeeping.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It's all fun and games until you're the one behind the gate

          [...]
          [...]

          Even if removing KBD would make the game worse, it's still a shit game from the start
          Also this has nothing to do with your original assertion and you're a stupid Black person

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with modern fighting games is the moronic execution. Why the frick does shit like a 720 motion input exist in a game where you have to do it in like 4 frames.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because thats the input for zangiefs super and it would be fricking moronic and broken if it was any easier.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >it would be fricking moronic and broken if it was any easier.
        How so? The 360°/720° motion is (almost required to be) buffered behind a dash, iump or normal and effectively comes out just as easy (if not more easily since those actions that allow for the buffering can threaten other options the opponent performs) as if the motion were replaced by something like R1+X.
        The only moves that would be truly broken are charge moves, and that is only because the charge moves are designed to be overpowered on paper, held back by the time to charge. Make Flash Kick more minus on block, or give it a few frames of vulnerable startup, or install a conditional like that charge character in Fantasy Strike and there's suddenly no problem.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Because you just made a move that requires some form of commitment or confirm via another move or input something that can be instantly thrown out raw. Simplifying the input makes it objectively more powerful.

          >make flash kick more minus on block
          How about no? Flash kick works fine the way it is and changing it's properties changes it into a different move with a different identity and purpose. Why does it need to be changed in the first place? To make it easier? To make it more logical? Frick all that.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          > The 360°/720° motion is (almost required to be) buffered behind a dash, iump or normal
          >effectively comes out just as easy as if the motion were replaced by something like R1+X.
          do you realize the stupidity? there is that clear limitation that comes from having the move come with such an input.
          so would your fix be to only allow your shitty R1+X bind to work after a dash, jump or normal? thats gay and artificial as hell and fighters arent made with such weird exception rules. on top of that it would punish people who know how to standing 360/720.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          man what the frick is this. whats the point of making flashkick more minus? people can already punish it with a fricking neutral jump which is the highest possible damage starter. removing invul would just nerf the move and kill its original intent.
          >fantasy strike
          unironically kys.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Hi Sirlin.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Modern fighting games have made execution so easy that it's barely a barrier at all anymore.

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it still impossible to have full range movement and attack at the same time in fighting games?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because fighting game exclusively refers to street fighter 2 clones

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because its awkward and shitty. your floaty webm kind of shows what I mean.
      jedi knight games were fun but its not something to actually dump much time into.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Except no real fights involves gluing yourself to the floor or only move by making your body a projectile.
        You can't even adjust the direction and path of attacks like in real life.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          real fights dont involve slow gay backflips and lightsabers either, moron.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            And yet it still ends up far more closer to real fights. That's how pathetic modern fighting mechanics are

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Play a UFC game then what the frick are you complaining about lmao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So you didn't even bother comprehending the last few posts.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't even read your previous posts I just responded to your latest one for (You)'s

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              by all means enjoy your gay star wars kids larp simulators then.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >still don't get how low of a bar Jedi Outcast set (like not even puddle level), and yet game mechanics are still stagnant as ever

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                maybe because nobody cares about that gameplay and its nothing great and your whole perception is off. I mean you dont even know when you are meant to greentext.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Jedi Knight combat is so close to being perfect, Movie Battles addresses some issues but a more established move set and more reliable defense are the two big issues.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because fighting game exclusively refers to street fighter 2 clones

      Most games don't even let you adjust the movement and angle of attacks like you could in real life

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        almost like they are not meant to reflect real life

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because it just turns into people flailing around in eachother's direction and hoping it hits

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >the game asked me to spin the stick twice I cant handle this situation

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite cope is Gankertards thinking they would be neutral gods and only the dp motion is holding them back, when execution is the easiest part of a fighting game.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    you can win at fighting games with two buttons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      moron
      Now try doing that with a character with stubby normals and/or massive pushback on basic normals. So many people are missing the bigger picture here. It's not the "difficult inputs," the shitty netcode, or the catering to casuals that's the problem with fighting games nowdays. It's the fact that 98% of the schlock that releases is imbalanced as frick. Too many developers don't give a shit about balance. They care more about monetization, israeli practices, season passes, etc, than actually giving every character a fighting chance.

      Don't even get me started on how the DLC characters in SF V remain so utterly broken to this day.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        this years capcom cup top8 featured 8 SFV launch characters.
        what will your next cope be?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >FGC gay using EVO to argue everything for them for the umpteenth time
          Why am I not surprised

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            How is that not a valid argument?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              The second character was considered top-tier while the 'godlike' character was considered mediocre at best for the years I played this game. This webm is not showing what you think it is.

              >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
              He's right, though

              Thanks for your contribution

              >dude balance is why I'm dogshit at fighting games
              >no I wont pick a character I perceive as strong that would mean putting my ego on the line

              Mental gymnastics

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What sort of schizo meltdown is this now? What are you trying to say and to whom? Why are you quoting me?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                proving that fighting games across the board aren't even closed to balanced with facts and statistics.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                He thinks the backdash tier list is the actual tier list for the game

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >he sincerely thinks backdashes and sidesteps are of equal standing in Tekken 7
                anon, I...

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Two characters on the right side of this are/were considered the actual best characters in the game. This still isn't showing what you think it is. The only thing it shows is that you don't know anything about the actual game to anybody whose even casually familiar with it. Like, come on, homie. If you have the backdash tierlists ready then surely you've seen better examples of Tekken's shit balance than this.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                So, not only do you admit Tekken has shit balancing (thereby proving my very original point, good job moron, why are we even arguing again?) but you fail to grasp the very basic premise of the webm in question, its implication:

                Backdashes and sidesteps are not made equal. This creates a huge problem in a game like Tekken, that puts emphasis on attack rather than defense or mobility. This is further exacerbated by the fact that KBD exists (which shouldn't). If you are going to leave in a bug that was left in to appease Korean autists, you sure as hell better make sure that sidestepping and backdashes are more consistent across characters so you aren't left with a hodgepodge of imbalances like only characters being able to doge certain attacks, with others being left out in the proverbial cold.

                This only reinforces the point that Tekken, for all intents and purposes, is a chaotic party game. A mindless brawl in which 9 year olds can trounce 20 year vets by mashing buttons. Basically, you are a huge homosexual who is apologizing for shit mechanics, bad imbalance, and below average standards for game developer quality.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                let me guess: hardstuck orange ranks?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you really think he plays?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                someone that angry has to have gotten their ass beat by morons first. you either take the lesson and get better or you post paragraphs about it on Ganker

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                he's a moronic Hispanic mashing in single player romhacks of kof.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                you really think he plays?

                >corporate wiener lover fanboys have no rebuttal so they fall back on the same tried and true fallacy of relying on online e penis rank to get anywhere
                Every time.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Bro I'm not reading this. Just go play Tekken 4 over netplay and you'll see why you're wrong on some of the KBD crap.
                >muh no online
                If you're dedicated enough to b***h for that long you should know what I mean.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >still no rebuttal

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Don't need say anymore than what did. Clear you've never looked into Tekken 4 outside of whatever you've learned through osmosis.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Dummy the game is balanced around backdashes and sidesteps not being equal. Jack has intentionally shit movement, because he has god tier pokes. You are parroting something without knowing what you are talking about.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >why are we even arguing again
                Because the example you gave is moronic.
                >Backdashes and sidesteps are not made equal
                No shit, moron. Characters are different. Those things being different isn't inherently a sign of bad balance. Having 'godlike' movement doesn't mean a character isn't actually godlike anymore than having a weaker backdash means a character is weaker than the others.
                >Basically, you are a huge homosexual who is apologizing for shit mechanics, bad imbalance, and below average standards for game developer quality.
                Nah, I have a pretty low opinion of Tekken. I was just giving you a hands up that the examples you gave didn't show what you thought they did and only told everyone you didn't actually know what you're talking about but if you wanna double down on looking like a moron then go for it.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Don't even waste your time. He's either baiting or is so moronic and locked into his position that you'll never change his mind.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >than actually giving every character a fighting chance
        Every character does have a fighting chance. Gief in SFV is considered the actual worst character but people still win with him in Warlord. Is it often an uphill battle? Sure. Is it unlikely to win a tournament with him? Yeah. But the character is still playable even at the highest level. Going by official stats, even the worst character at any rank still has like a 45% average winrate or higher and a lot of the highest WR characters usually aren't even considered top-tier but are more just rare characters people are unfamiliar with.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
          He's right, though

          >dude balance is why I'm dogshit at fighting games
          >no I wont pick a character I perceive as strong that would mean putting my ego on the line

          this years capcom cup top8 featured 8 SFV launch characters.
          what will your next cope be?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >just divide by zero bro

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are so powerful.
    Just in this one:
    -single player morons who miss the point of the genre
    -filtered copers who lash out at anybody who likes fighting games because their egos got hurt instead of just moving on to play what they like
    -fans of unrelated genres asking why they cant be considered part of the cool kids club
    -smash babbs who as always display their complete lack of understanding when it comes to fighting game mechanics and design, as they dont play fighting games
    -third world schizos doing completely unhinged rants and starting fights that have nothing to do with the topic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >pay 100 usd for something you only get the most barebones experience
      Fighters should cost 10 usd compared to shit like elden ring.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        elden ring is a garbage low quality game though. I pirated it and still felt ripped off.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically my main reason to come to Ganker these days. It's good fun

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to apply this to the most minimal of genre UIs
    actually what are you talking about?

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Ganker always b***hes about fighting games
    >doesn't play SamSho even though it's the answer to all their complaints
    Never listen to Ganker b***hing about fighting game design as a whole. These people don't actually like fighting games on a fundamental level and will never be pleased if they are actually arguing in sincerity.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This is the worst thread I've read this week. Frick all of you.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >vestigial features
    >monkey brained frickery
    >fighting game gays defend having a monkey brain
    LOOOOL

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fighting games are the best they have ever been since the genre was invented.

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    this thread was made by cris, AGDG's resident failed game developer and columbian schizo

    here is the fighting game he made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK7iUPLnt4Y

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you are schizophrenic.

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >actual braindead Mugen Hispanic that wants to do cool shit but is too moronic to do it and wants a different genre all together or one that enables morons like him in single player
    I know this board is third world idiot haven as shown by /vint/ but man this is funny

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      tell me what beatem up doesn't have a garbage braindead combat?

      I cant play beatem ups, they're literally mobile phone games compared to fighters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >starts bringing up random shit
        Seems like anon hit the nail on the head, lmao.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I want to play a single player fighting game without versus or online, is that too dificult to understand, morono?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I don't get the problem either.
            Anyway, the new SF6 has a full single player campaign, but aside of that you have games like Blazblue, SFA3 for PSP, Guilty Gear Accent Core, and a few others that have a decent amount of single player content aside of the usual Arcade and Survival.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I want to play a 2D beatemup with a fighting game combat system.

              Is that too hard to understand?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            I want to play a 2D beatemup with a fighting game combat system.

            Is that too hard to understand?

            Then play a fighting game with single player modes like gbfvs, mk or sf6 world tour and frick off moron. Or just stick to mugen

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >moron thinks I want to play casual garbage for phones
              kys

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                man, fricking morons don't fricking understand I want to do combo autism in a fricking metroidvania without this shit needing 500 hours to grind in a lab?

                this video is such a throwback, goddamn.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                moronic Gankerappa thinks I want to make a casual fighter with simpler inputs, when I am fricking talking about basically a niche thing in fighters.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      not that anon, but i don't think it's unreasonable to wish for a fun, combo exhibition fighting game that doesn't force you into PVP.

      i've put a lot of hours in playing SFV Mysterious Mod against the CPU because it's flashy as hell, but it'd be a lot more fun to take this stuff onto a dynamic Metroidvania map. it bites that my only options are more VS CPU, or joining the Discord and playing against the five other people who are probably ridiculously good at it.

      and needless to say, i am REAL frickin' annoyed that the GBFV Chaos mod doesn't apply to the side scroller mode because it uses a different ruleset than regular vs mode. fricking seething.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        man, fricking morons don't fricking understand I want to do combo autism in a fricking metroidvania without this shit needing 500 hours to grind in a lab?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'M SO SICK OF THIRD WORLD SPICOID SCHIZOS THEY ARE EVERYWHERE NOW AND JUST SHIT UP EVERYTHING

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I wish we had flags so fricking much dude. this idiot that can't understand why why no one wants to make shit like ninja kun with fighting game combos, that homosexual posting chilean that kept saying "str8" while ban evading and the fallout poster. I hate them so damn much.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously every time I run into a massive fricktard schizo, console warrior or general idiot its revealed that its some south american sooner or later either because of their moronic misplaced patriotism which forces them to reveal where they come from or because they post some screenshot from a favelatop running emulators on 800x600 resolution with spanish/portuguese words in the background.

          Also look at this post I saw in a thread talking about ESLs. The suspects fit the description to a tee.

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    name a vestigial element in ryu's moveset or street fighter's game system. i'll wait.

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone here been to a major before? I'm going to be sharing a hotel with 3 other guys but there's only 2 queen size beds. I'm not gay and I don't plan on having sex, but I really don't want to sleep on the floor either.
    How weird would it be to ask to share the bed? I'm 30

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You're already a homosexual if you're overthinking this so much. Closeted gay ass Black person.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Clearly, I'm autistic. So I've never been in this position before and I never learned what's socially acceptable. I usually just by with following by example but this situation is a little too unique for that.

        You're doing reddit spacing right now just letting you know.
        Anyways, having being Top 500 in OW for almost a year isn't even close to having been a "top player". Neither is having competed in TF2.

        [...]
        Dude you're crying on Ganker about being shit at fighting games then when you get called out you start crying even more, get a grip.
        Btw I tried looking up my old battlenet tag on some sites just now but it's not showing up. I deleted that account after quitting Overwatch. I'm not giving you my steam account for my TF2 shit.
        I'll be leaving the thread now.

        [...]
        Just share the bed.

        Thank you.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      just ask to be the big spoon. you can FT5 for it too.

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The R button is so I can call the moron department and tell them you got out of containment

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is this one of those shit fight game threads?
    >fighting games are too hard make them simple!
    >they're simple now
    >wtf I learn everything after 3 hours of play DROPPED

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    FG homosexuals arent even human. They play games not for if they are fun or not but just to show off the fact that they can do gay combos.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >can do gay combos
      It's to show off that I can go on a 70+ winstreak and get to diamond on 15 new accounts in a week while 99% of Ganker is stuck in super silver.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        NTA
        akshually I'm stuck in ultra silver

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    99% of people b***hing about motion inputs don't play fighting games.

    But it's also true that 99% of the time, motion inputs don't actually do much to increase the skillgap and you could probably raise the skill floor without signficantly reducing the skill ceiling by tweaking or removing them.

    It's just that the actual main obstacle for people getting into fighting games isn't motion inputs, it's people not going into fighting games with the right perspective of seeking self improvement, practicing, seeing replay value and content in terms of depth/community interaction, and people getting intimidated by combos and inputs and tech and frame data in theory moreso then the actual execution of them.

    That last one is particularly though: I go to locals and have even won locals in some games, and even I find it difficult to get past the bump of being worried about knowing BNB's and punishes and tech before starting a new game

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >But it's also true that 99% of the time, motion inputs don't actually do much to increase the skillgap and you could probably raise the skill floor without signficantly reducing the skill ceiling by tweaking or removing them.
      >changing them does nothing but lowers skillcap
      >change it anyways
      >anon is obviously bias to no motion inputs due to being a smash pedo
      kek

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't play smash

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    not really. you just suck and aren't willing to put in any effort to learn the genre. then you b***h and go away. that's normal and I like it so I'll keep my fighting games niche, thank you.
    >but tekken 8/sf6 mainstream!!!
    lol no.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Typical midwit academics casting down criticisms of designers in industries they have absolutely nothing to do with.

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I only play BlazBlue to jerk off. There I said it..

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >I want to do cool and crazy fighting game combos that take effort like in these videos
    >but I'm dumber than my average third world brethern and instead of being willing to practice I want do it easily and in a fricking single player only metroidvania or beat em up that no one who makes fighting games would want to touch
    I wish the hispanics that actually played kof against each other and were good at it posted here instead. Kofxv threads might've lasted more than 5 days and be something more than image dumps.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Type Lumina
      BB:Tag
      KOFXV

      Auto combos!!
      Y'all agreed and you defended it in debates.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Auto combo was a mistake

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I want to put this mai doing this shit in this video.

      I want to play her in this game.

      Basically put mai shiranui in Ninja Kun.

      Is that too schizo for you, morono?

      I'm not talking about dumbing down the genre, moron.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Auto combo can do everything shown in this video, that doesn't make you good even if you can manually pull it off.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I am not talking about pvp shit.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If an auto combo could do it for you then this is not impressive.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >kof 02
          >auto combos

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The video isn't showing anything better than what we can do using auto combo in fighting games

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              did u miss half of what I posted?

              I said doing that on the ninja kun game.

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >dude balance is why I'm dogshit at fighting games
    >no I wont pick a character I perceive as strong that would mean putting my ego on the line

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The second character was considered top-tier while the 'godlike' character was considered mediocre at best for the years I played this game. This webm is not showing what you think it is.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          This is just some moron schizo who blames the fgc for everything. He has no idea what he is even posting.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I don't know how I still trick myself into posting on this shit board occasionally when it feels like 90% of the people are legitimately mentally ill or plain moronic, if they're not just baiting, while the other 10% are left endlessly screaming at them to frick off as they destroy any attempt at an actual discussion. I may as well talk to a chatbot except I think a chatbot would show more desire to engage and learn something.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              it feels like people have gotten much less sane here over the last few years.
              I dont know if its some newbie third world influx or if people are straight up losing their marbles because the world is kinda going to shit.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                A bit of column A, a bit of column B. For the former, you'd be surprised how many populate this site for the longest time and yet things were still relatively sane over a decade ago. For the latter, I blame people being terminally online and the world going to shit which has eroded their sanity.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >and yet things were still relatively sane over a decade ago.
                well I dont know why they now think its ok to post.

                I've honestly wondered at times if it's like an actual bot overrunning the board. I genuinely wouldn't be that surprised but, like I said, I think something like chatGPT would actually make for better conversation on average.

                its 100% just people who are fricked in the head. my natural reaction to them has always been the same too. I read part of their post and my eyes just start rolling automatically and my brain blocks out to prevent a crash I assume. its the same when I'm confronted with moronic social studies lingo.
                I just noticed that there's an uptick of this kind of shit. chatbots arent like that. as you said the chatbot would have more reasonable things to say. I even asked the chat bot about matchup infos in super turbo for fun and the result wasnt even awful.

                I wish other parts of the internet werent so pozzed and awful this shit here isnt good or healthy either you know what they say about staring into the abyss. I dont want to be surrounded by schizos all the time.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                From one anon to another, all I can say is that you should leave this place. I don't say this as a "frick off and go back to whatever containment etc" but I mean it as you should leave because this place is just bad for you. Get off the internet if you can or at the very least, off the usual places like whatever social media you might've used. These places are poison to the mind and it will erode you mentally given enough time and usage.
                There's hardly any discussion or fun to be had here, Ganker has become a twisted parody of itself.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                yeah I dont use Ganker as much anyways. shit sucks. I'm in some smaller communities that are basically offshoots from Ganker with some cool guys and I'm mostly sticking with those smaller circles. Anything that is truly open and front facing on the internet is ass these days.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >I read part of their post and my eyes just start rolling automatically and my brain blocks out to prevent a crash I assume
                >this shit here isnt good or healthy either you know what they say about staring into the abyss
                Yeah, once in a blue moon there's a decent thread but most of the time I actually end up getting a gross feeling if I browse this board beyond skimming the catalog for news. Shit's like actual psychic damage.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I've honestly wondered at times if it's like an actual bot overrunning the board. I genuinely wouldn't be that surprised but, like I said, I think something like chatGPT would actually make for better conversation on average.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks for your contribution

      >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
      He's right, though

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        wasn't someone just complaining about fighting games not having enough long term progression and unlockables?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          False equivalence. There's a difference between progression and long term equivalence and an arduous grind that's clearly just designed to drain your fricking wallet and/or soul.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
          He's right, though

          >dude balance is why I'm dogshit at fighting games
          >no I wont pick a character I perceive as strong that would mean putting my ego on the line

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >uuuuhhh if I add a meme i win teh argy-mint!!
      He's right, though

      Thanks for your contribution

      It's all fun and games until you're the one behind the gate
      [...]
      Even if removing KBD would make the game worse, it's still a shit game from the start
      Also this has nothing to do with your original assertion and you're a stupid Black person

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      lol I actually activated a massive samegay spergout with this factual post.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >factual

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        He's actually just posting whatever at this point. I fricking hate the moronic esl schizos on this board so damn much

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >fricking hate the moronic esl schizos on this board so damn much
          its so common too. its unbearable.

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >this entire thread

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong thread?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >capcom are israeli morons
      Yeah, true
      >the only reason I'm bad at fighting games is because they're unbalanced
      no, moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >strawman concerning imbalance
        no, that isn't what I said. Try again israelite lover

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          then you really are in the wrong thread I guess

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This argument is getting increasingly hard to follow, what is even happening?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's a genuine mental illness episode and this anon is arguing with himself.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Fighting game threads are peak mental illness. Eventually people just start dumping their schizo images and replying to themselves.

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It really always does just turn out to be an utter refusal to learn huh.
    >muh try hard
    >hurr I either stomp or get stomped

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    [...]

    New thread.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      dont, moron.

  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    post your recently played steam games so i know what good design looks like

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Thread doesn't even hit bump limit and he makes another just to have a repeat of anons calling him an idiot
    Just stick to your shitty single player and shut the frick up

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >muh issue with modern fighting games
    are you boomer larping and pretending that modern fighting games don't have much more leniancy compared to older ones?
    try pulling off pretzels and max cancels in older KoF games, THEN come back bithing how modern fighters like SFV have needlessly difficult controls

    >but muh why can't all fighting games have as easy inputs as possible
    because inputs are fun to do
    doing a Vergil combo in MvC3 is similarly fun to doing one in DMC3. If you could just mash a combo button to pull them off then they wouldn't be anywhere near as fun to do

    or how cathing an enemy with a well executed DP is just much more fun than hitting someone with a single move anti-air, it requires more from you, it's harder to pull off, but it's also more rewarding. This is something that will always remain relevant, even pros often have to consider whether they want to execute a DP or just a single input anti-air, because a DP requires just that bit more mental preparation

  79. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    can't believe this shitty thread will hit bump limit

  80. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like alot of people hate fighting game solely because you cant cheat in them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you can, but you kinda gotta be creative with it.
      also ironically fighting games being made easier execution wise directly takes the advantage from combo script users away.

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