"Momentum can just magically appear-ACK"

"Momentum can just magically appear-ACK"

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    In the real world, there would be air moving out from the orange portal that slows down the cube

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The portals clearly don't rely on real world physics or else chell would be fucking dead

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The conditions surrounding the orange portal will create a vacuum that sucks out air from the blue space.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The conditions surrounding the orange portal will create a vacuum that sucks out air from the blue space.

      I don't know what this nonsense about air displacement is but it's completely irrelevant to the problem

      This is accurate

      Disingenuous. There should only be one moving platform. The one on the right there gives momentum to the cube which was not present in the original problem

      >gives momentum to the cube
      You don't understand relativity

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It can't be accurate because the portal is at rest and no outside force acts on it.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >the portal is at rest
          All observers are at rest in their own frame of reference. The orange portal and blue portal are the same point (plane) in space, but the orange aperture is accelerating while the blue is stationary (from our perspective).
          This acceleration is accurately represented by the orange "side" moving in that diagram. Keep relativity in mind, as far as physics are concerned there is no difference between an object moving towards you versus you moving toward an object.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The orange portal is moving at 999m/s so the air transfer from blue space to orange space is at 999m/s. Understand?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's retarded. The cube doesn't have some sort of internal property called "speed" that has to be mantained as a numeric value when it comes outside the exit portal. What only matters to determine how fast the cube is going to exit is how fast it's crossing the portal. The cube in your pic is literally going through the portal at 1m/s. And that's how it would look from the exit portal. The cube exits at 1m/s.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        that's what the gif is arguing. that what happens in it is dumb. it's made by a b supporter to show how a doesn't make any sense.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, the point of that gif is demonstrating that Afags are retarded and fundamentally do not understand the problem

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Correct, because the atmosphere in blue is being sucked out at 999 m/s

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          If it were being sucked, the cube wouldn't even be able to push through. If it's being pushed, it'd be pushed at 1m/s, not 1000m/s.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            It reaches a state of equilibrium where the cube will still be moving at 1000 m/s and the portal at 999 m/s. Thus the cube enters the blue space at a relative of 1 m/s.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm B-fag and I'll say your graph is wrong. As the other anon said, 1m/s is maintained, it should exist at 1m/s and then be affected by whatever is on the other side.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        See

        Correct, because the atmosphere in blue is being sucked out at 999 m/s

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The box wouldn't slowly enter the blue one actually. As soon as it entered, the speed differential would shoot the rest of the box through the blue portal immediately. Or, as another possibility, the box is torn to bits as it enters the blue portal.

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Disingenuous. There should only be one moving platform. The one on the right there gives momentum to the cube which was not present in the original problem

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Relative to the stationary portal, everything beyond the moving portal aside from the portal itself has momentum

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Wtf no. You drive a car and hit a wall the wall has mass, not momentum. You are transferring momentum to the wall.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Momentum is relative.
            Congrats on failing a grade school level knowledge check.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The cube's momentum relative to the atmospheric condition at blue space is zero so the cube wouldn't fly off in blue's atmosphere.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >the portal is at rest
              All observers are at rest in their own frame of reference. The orange portal and blue portal are the same point (plane) in space, but the orange aperture is accelerating while the blue is stationary (from our perspective).
              This acceleration is accurately represented by the orange "side" moving in that diagram. Keep relativity in mind, as far as physics are concerned there is no difference between an object moving towards you versus you moving toward an object.

              momentum is relative mathematically. not literally.
              mathematically theres infinite dimensions, that doesnt mean theres like a literal place called the 8th dimension where a cube has 60 right angles and humans can travel to it if they have the right technology.
              this sort of math is meant to be practical not literal.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >momentum is relative mathematically. not literally.
                again, another retard that thinks numbers are some innate property of objects
                nothing is absolute in physics

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      "portal frame" magically has the pedestal the cube is on moving while it is stationary

      • 6 days ago
        ALMSIVI

        Exactly. The cube continues moving at the same speed it approached the portal, as depicted in [...]

        >NOOO THE PORTAL WAS MOVING NOT THE CUBE
        There is literally no difference.

        Put a die on a table, the die is at rest, take a cup and invert it over the die before then pushing the cup down so that it covers the die.
        The die does not keep moving after the cup has come to rest.

        It's literally this simple

        Inb4: it's a portal not a cup.
        The portal is just a cup with a universe on the other side of the opening

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It is moving relative to the portal. That's what frames of reference mean.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You think yourself so smart, b fag. Solve this, then:
      A portal goes down at 10km/s to an anal bead perfectly aligned.
      What's the speed of the last anal bead to cross the portal? Is it 10km/s? If not, why?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        not him

        i think something longer than a cube would be both A and B: it would come out of the portal at 10km, but since there the thing itself is not moving it would come at a full stop once the portal stops too

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Typical idiot. The object has 0 momentum and it will remain with 0 momentum until an outside force is applied.
      The 'portal frame' is meaningless nonsense. SPACE is not an observer in relativity, OBJECTS are. The portal is not an object but a distorted feature in spacetime. Ergo it is not a valid observation point in terms of relativity.
      It's similar to how OBJECTS can't exceed the speed of light, but SPACE can - why? Because it isn't limited by general relativity.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Therefore, the correct option is option B. The cube stays put with 0 momentum until it crosses the portal threshold, upon which the cube's geodesic points towards the Earth's centre and it plops down to the ground.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          By option B I mean the first one. I got the two mixed up.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Precisely. The portal is not an object. It is just a region of spacetime.
        SPACE IS NOT AN OBJECT.
        ONLY OBJECTS CAN BE OBSERVERS.
        Therefore the portal is not a observer in relativity and there is no conservation of speed in relation to the portal.
        The cube conserves speed (0) relative to the platform it is on and the environment around it, therefore it does not shoot out the other end for no reason.

        Another person who gets it. The portal is not a 'thing', it's just distorted spacetime, so the cube does not need to conserve speed in relation to it. The portal is not an observer.

        >SPACE IS NOT AN OBJECT.
        >ONLY OBJECTS CAN BE OBSERVERS.
        I'm gonna need you to tell me what you think the definition of an observer is in the context of frames of reference before you post this again
        Preferably with an academic source

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I'm gonna need you to pass high school physics before you address me again

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            That's a shame, if you're not willing to admit your mistake and learn I'll just put you in the "disregard on sight" pile with the hoopfags

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        what is your practical definition of "space" in this context?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Velocity is a relative measurement.
        Momentum is a function of velocity and is therefore also relative.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      How does A reconcile this issue? What if there is something blocking the exit? Can you claim the ground isn't imparting a force?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Is the piston exerting enough force to deform the cube?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          if it's exerting a force, it's also going to go flying if there is nothing to stop it.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. So the left platform or the right stationary piston will give way if not the cube. Either one.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              We agree

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        This is literally the same as if the piston had an indented surface, it can't exist at the same point as another solid matter.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Are you saying that you can't block the exit? or that A isn't possible?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It would noclip through reality

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Looking at this, it would be ground to dust/crushed, no?
        Even if there isn’t force being applied or whatever, the cube would have to emerge on the other side no matter what, since the portal hits the surface.
        Therefore it would either be crushed, or if it’s stronger than the blockage then break through even without momentum since it’s two different objects trying to occupy the same space.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Now imagine, there is air. It's pushing against air at the speed the yellow portal is coming down. Shouldn't that speed be maintained, at least until the yellow portal stops pushing it in?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I don’t know.
            I’m not here to comment, this just came up in the catalogue.
            I assumed this was in an airless environment.
            This discussion is as dumb as powerlevel threads tbh

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Literally retarded. The platform the cube is on is not moving on the left, but is moving on the right? Ganker is full of low IQ morons.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Literally retarded. It's moving in relation to the portal.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing can move relative to the portal because the portal isn't a physical object. The entire room is moving relative to the piston and stops when the piston and platform collide, therefore the cube stops.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Nah situation 3 relies on the movement of the train and the box just floats. 2 actually gives force to the box multiplied by the velocity of the train.

            You aren't paying attention, the portal has a location and it's changing relative to something. It doesn't matter if it's not physical. Location is changing.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >the portal has a location
              No, the piston does. The piston is the only thing moving because the portal isn't an object.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                ????
                A-fags now arguing that the conceptual entrance/exit of something does not have a location.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Jump at the end of a falling elevator fallacy. Can't isolate the situation like that because physics exists.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >It's moving in relation to the portal
          You're moving in relation to a car driving past your house outside. If the car slams on its brakes, do you fly out of your chair?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Atards not even pretending to talk about portals now
            lmao

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            LOL what the fuck are you smoking? Try to draw it, I want to see your logic, I really want to see it. Please anon, draw it. Draw your logic. Do it.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You need someone to draw a picture of a car driving past your house in order to understand what happens to (You) when any car in the world slams on its brakes?
              The point is that the cube is at relative rest. Its energy is entirely potential. Using a portal to put it into a different room won't send it rocketing through the sky, because it must conserve its energy first to its relative self.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, draw it. Please anon, let us see your logic.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                What happens to you standing in a fast moving train with 200km/h slamming it's magical breaks and coming to a stand instantly?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The point is that the cube is at relative rest
                Why use buzzwords if you don't understand what they mean?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Do you even think you know what it means?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why can this ball stand on the portal?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's the box's shadow

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Then where is the other portal?

                Did A-Fags completely lose it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Are you retarded?
                There are no fucking portals involved in a box being placed on top of a ball.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How does it relate to anything in this thread?

                Did A-Fags completely lose it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Does a box being placed on top of a ball cause the ball to move?
                What if the box is placed over the ball, like, really fucking fast? The ball is moving really fucking fast from the box's frame of reference!
                So what happens to the ball?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                okay, so theres another, totally unrelated box next to it. theres a ball inside of it. it flys out really, really fucking fast, but then just....stops. from zero to light speed back to zero.

                reddit spacing for emphasis and for you to fallacy away

                why did the ball stop?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >but wut about other boxes!?
                There's no other box. There's a big box -- even the size of the universe. When it pulls down over the ball, the ball doesn't fly away. No matter how fast the box is moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                this box is inside that bigger box, anon. we are talking regular portals, not inter-dimensional portals.

              • 6 days ago
                ALMSIVI

                Functionally, for all intents and purposes,there is no difference in this discussion

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                kek you don't even understand basic perspective and you want to talk about maths?
                Also, hoolahoop logic Afag, what a surprise, thanks you proving my point

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I understand perspective far better than you.
                If you don't understand the significance of "object at rest" then you don't understand perspective.

                The portal doesn't think so.

                Who gives a fuck what the portal thinks? It's an observer -- a doorway.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It's an observer
                And it observes speed.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Bfags are trolling at this point right?
      You just made the portal into a hula-hoop but still claim it’s B.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Let's see a pedestal frame of reference

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >this retard thinks the universe revolves around the moving pillar, like it isn't affected by gravity.
      fucking retard doesn't understand gravity or gravitational forces.

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    if you look at the second portal B makes more sense. if you look at the first portal A makes more sense.

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    How long have we been talking about this

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker is incapable of being anything other than perpetually wrong and desires to prove so on a daily basis. This will continue until the heat death of the universe.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        When someone is right the discussion dies, but when someone is perpetually wrong the discussion continues forever.

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. The cube continues moving at the same speed it approached the portal, as depicted in

      >NOOO THE PORTAL WAS MOVING NOT THE CUBE
      There is literally no difference.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        There is a difference because you aren't moving, the world isn't moving, and the cube sure as shit isn't moving because of the portal.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >you aren't moving, the world isn't moving, and the cube sure as shit isn't moving
          Three strikes, you're out

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I accepted your concession long before I made the post. Congrats.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          but all motion is relative. every object is stationary in relation to itself, and only moves from the perspective of other objects. if the cube gets closer to the portal, then from the portal's perspective the cube is moving, and from the cube's perspective the portal is moving

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The portal doesn't have a perspective. You can't touch a hole.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Then explain what I did to your mum last night

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Did your dick fly off when you put it in? Like in B?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            This isn't true, and also gravity is a factor.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >The cube continues moving
        It wasn't moving in the first place.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Define not moving

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >the cube changed its position in space without moving
          Afags are at it again

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      If an object changes position in space even through a portal, that is a form of motion.

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >no multi track drifting

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      cute gote

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      loss?

  7. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Aren’t all portals technically back to back since there is no space between them?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Firstly, it's pretty clear that the thread is talking about the hypothetical situation with real world physics and not how the source engine would resolve it. Secondly, some dumb shit's approximation of the source engine is an argument constructed out of "trust me bro." Thirdly, cubes almost always hit the edges of the portal in the experiments they were conducted which ragdolls the cubes in the source engine.

        >my car isn't moving toward the wall, the wall is moving toward me!
        Anon...

        Momentum is a measurable unit, my guy. In your poor strawman the car has a measurable amount of momentum and the wall has exactly 0. Likewise

        The portal isn’t an object, you are moving a point in space through space to another point in space which literally isn’t possible irl. Arguing with physics is meaningless, it’s a hula hoop.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Here's what it looks like in the ACTUAL, REAL game not some rewritten cope game.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          I said it's how portals behave under B.
          Your post is irrelevant.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            My post is literally the game engine and the game the way it was coded.
            Your post is a coded cope game.
            Hahahaha you have been proven wrong literally by the game. Keep (You) me with your seething now that you have been unarguably proven wrong.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You have the reading comprehension of a donkey.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >game obviously sends him airborne
          Afags are the biggest retards I've ever seen

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            AHHAHAHAHAHAHA BFAG ON SUICIDE WATCH

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            you should probably learn to read, he jumps as the portal reaches him

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You know why he adds a jump? Because he can't enter the portal if he's stationary.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Even Portal itself is an A-king, it's OVER for B turds

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Here's what it looks like in the ACTUAL, REAL game
          False. Stop lying.

          Ignore this guy
          [...]
          and his fake game cope video
          [...]

          This is the real game
          [...]
          and the real result

          >This is the real game
          It isn't. Stop lying.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          i'm about to make an actual test chamber in portal 2 to figure this shit out in actual game physics, because the retard behind
          put chell in the portal, not the fucking cube.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >put chell in the portal, not the fucking cube
            What a weird cope. Chell and the cubes behave the exact same way in the game.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              no they don't, also it wouldve been clearer to see how it functioned in a third person view, there was no reason to put chell there.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Chell and the cubes behave the exact same way in the game.

                >this is your brain on Btardness cope
                lmao

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Chell and the cubes behave the exact same way in the game.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >bfags are wojack morons
                >wojack morons are confirmed retarded
                the truth... revealed.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              then put the cube in, I don't want to give B fags any more fuel for their retardation. It's gotten bad enough now they're just presenting A arguments and saying "SEE! I WAS A B FAG!"

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It's gotten bad enough now they're just presenting A arguments and saying "SEE! I WAS A B FAG!"
                Why? It means that you won. Let them cope and pretend all they want. Deep inside they know they are literal retards that had to bend the knee to superior minds.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >they're just presenting A arguments
                Which are actually arguments for B, lmao.
                That's how stupid Atards are.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Lolno. That's a hacked version of the game because the game doesn't even support movable portals. have a nice day disinformation agent.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >the game doesn't even support movable portals
            That's factually wrong and every time you cope you make my dick hard because I know that it's causing you huge distress.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Atards too stupid to understand basic logic
        See [...]

        you retards understand that the cube got stuck on the physical sides and that the momentum of the moving platform is being transfered into the cube.
        fucking RETARDS.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      you B-fags and your momentum are retarded. Momentum is not a thing in this situation because there is no actual Momentum being applied to the box, the portals never interact "with" the box. The portals are just wormholes connecting 2 places, no more. gave you an ilustrative answer long ago, if you cannot complehend it with it then I'm sorry.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Ignoring what happens afterwards, does the speed that platform moves down influence the speed that the cube "emerges" from the portal?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          No because the cube emerges from the other side at the same pace that gets in. The moment the platforms collide, the box is on the other side already.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >does X matter
            >no because X matters
            a fags have rotten brains lmao

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Portals change momentum in game. After all, direction is part of momentum.
        Oh, but you're not changing direction RELATIVE TO THE PORTAL because momentum is preserved RELATIVE TO THE PORTAL in game.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Funny you say INGAME, because there are no moving portals in the game.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            But all i said has to do with stationary portals (Relative to the lab, I add for clarity despite it being pointless to try and convince an Afag that's a thing), and if Portals behave that way when "stationary" we must say they behave the same way when "moving". If we don't then portals can't exist as advertised, which I suppose is an answer to the problem, just not the one we were looking for.

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    relative_velocity(cube, entance_portal) = relative_orientation(exit_portal, entrance_portal) @ relative_velocity(cube, exit_portal)

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      kek this perfectly describes how i feel about Afags

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Momentum isn't relative in the manner at which the video implies. The cube has 0 ft/s momentum regardless of how quick the piston is moving. Furthermore, a threshold is also not a physical object and thus doesn't carry momentum.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >The cube has 0 ft/s momentum regardless of how quick the piston is moving.

        That's retarded. The cube doesn't have some sort of internal property called "speed" that has to be mantained as a numeric value when it comes outside the exit portal. What only matters to determine how fast the cube is going to exit is how fast it's crossing the portal. The cube in your pic is literally going through the portal at 1m/s. And that's how it would look from the exit portal. The cube exits at 1m/s.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's not exiting the portal at that speed, the threshold is crossing it and after a certain amount of travel time from the piston relative to gravitational forces pulling the cube down, it eventually topples. The cube has no momentum.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >my car isn't moving toward the wall, the wall is moving toward me!
            Anon...

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The portal isn’t an object, you are moving a point in space through space to another point in space which literally isn’t possible irl. Arguing with physics is meaningless, it’s a hula hoop.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Let me highlight the particularly relevant section this time so you understand

                That's retarded. The cube doesn't have some sort of internal property called "speed" that has to be mantained as a numeric value when it comes outside the exit portal. What only matters to determine how fast the cube is going to exit is how fast it's crossing the portal. The cube in your pic is literally going through the portal at 1m/s. And that's how it would look from the exit portal. The cube exits at 1m/s.

                >What only matters to determine how fast the cube is going to exit is how fast it's crossing the portal.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The portal isn’t a thing. It doesn’t exist nothing is being crossed. All you have done is changed the location of a point in space.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Let me highlight my response again since you ignored it previously

                It's not exiting the portal at that speed, the threshold is crossing it and after a certain amount of travel time from the piston relative to gravitational forces pulling the cube down, it eventually topples. The cube has no momentum.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not moving toward the portal, the portal is moving toward me!
                Trying to make this distinction is an admission that you don't understand how frames of reference work

                The portal isn’t a thing. It doesn’t exist nothing is being crossed. All you have done is changed the location of a point in space.

                >All you have done is changed the location of a point in space.
                This is defined as "motion"
                At what speed did the cube move through the portal?
                >the cube wasn't moving
                then the cube must not have changed locations

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Trying to make this distinction is an admission that you don't understand how frames of reference work
                Trying to argue that a threshold is an object is an admission that you're chummin the waters.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Would you rather we say "the surface the portal is on (which is both two diffrent surfaces and the same one at the same time)" frame? Oh, or maybe "Lab frame (exit portal side)" Besides your arbitrary rule being wrong and arbitrary, we can define plenty of things as the frame of refrence which would have a similar result.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Every single point in space is a valid frame of reference.
                I don't know who told you they need to be centered on an "object" (or more accurately the "point" in space that an object occupies), but they were wrong.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Motion is an object moving through space
                Portals is a hypothetical scenario where you can move space itself
                There is nothing to indicate that making a Portal exerts a force on space, it just works by magic to make a hula hoop in between two points.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Hula hoops do not alter your location in space, therefore portals are not hula hoops.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                A portal doesn’t alter your location in space
                It alters a point in space’s location in space

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >ft

          Stopped reading.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You son of a bitch. What a perfect meme

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that all the (B)loops are just trolling

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day
    https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/625209114/#q625209942
    https://www.construct.net/en/free-online-games/moving-portal-toy-33487/play

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The cube never moves off the platform and will keep moving at the same relative speed to the platform.
    Until gravity at least.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The platform stops when it hits the piston but the cube keeps going, like how you'd fly through a windshield when your car hits a wall because you were too dumb to wear a seatbelt.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Why does the cube keep going when it's still on the non moving platform?
        In your example the car I'm in was moving which is completely different.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The platform is moving toward the piston. See

          Hope this helps!

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The platform stops when it hits the piston.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              And the cube keeps moving, just like you keep moving when your car hits a wall.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why would the cube move when it never moved in the first place?
                Portals are 2 points in space with distance of 0

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Terrible analogy. In a car, you are also traveling at the same speed, so of course you'd fly through the windshield when it comes to an instant halt. The cube simply isn't moving at all. Momentum couldn't magically transfer to the cube because nothing ever makes physical contact with it besides the floor. The reason people think it'd fly out is because they're focused on the moving portal vessel velocity. Because the other end of the portal is stagnate, it's like that velocity never existed in the first place.

                The cube is moving. Please consult

                again. Look carefully this time and try to understand it. Maybe it would help you if they labelled it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You've given up arguing and just want to stare at a gif. Leave the conversation with the adults.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Bfag goes through a portal
                >goes exactly as expected exiting the same speed he entered relative to the portals
                >Afag goes through a portal
                >Slams into the far wall at 67,000 mph because his absolute speed as he hurtles through space is 67,000 and the portals facing different directions cause all that speed to change direction
                Face it, if Afags were right portals would all be lethal.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                But the cube isn't moving. It only looks that way through the portal, but the portal is the moving thing, it's a reference point and at no point does it interact with the object.

                You couldn't make the portal bounce by tickling it through the threshold, could you? The only force it could deal with is the opposing gravitational orientation.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The portal isn't moving. If you reached through the blue portal, would the orange end shoot forward and hit you? Of course not.
                On the other hand, you'd better watch out for that platform rising up to crush your hand, and that cube that's gonna get launched when the platform stops.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You can't touch the threshold. It's a hole in space and time. It can't push nor pull you, and since it never interacted with you there would be no effect on your physical state. The only effect you'd feel is weight coming from the direction of gravity's new orientation.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Could you not stick your hand in the portal and "grab" it, such that your fingers are gripping the surface connected to one side and your thumb is gripping the other?
                Would your hand get ripped apart because "the portal is moving?" Or would it not be exactly like grabbing the edge of your desk right now?
                The portal is not moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Do you also think the universe inside the portal slams into itself sideways when the portal suddenly stops?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >the universe inside the portal
                ???

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That's the only way your point functions. Is if you view the universe inside the portal as a a different wrung and is acting towards the parallel of it through the portal.

              • 6 days ago
                ALMSIVI

                Are you retarded?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Portals change momentum without touching you in regular gameplay, nevermind the theoretical. Momentum is a vector, direction is a part of all vectors, that's why it's momentum instead of just Speed

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Terrible analogy. In a car, you are also traveling at the same speed, so of course you'd fly through the windshield when it comes to an instant halt. The cube simply isn't moving at all. Momentum couldn't magically transfer to the cube because nothing ever makes physical contact with it besides the floor. The reason people think it'd fly out is because they're focused on the moving portal vessel velocity. Because the other end of the portal is stagnate, it's like that velocity never existed in the first place.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Define "not moving" without trying to enforce an objective frame of reference.
          Oh who am I kidding, you don't even know what a frame of reference is. Or what "Objective" means here.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            No, no. No need to kid. I actually didn't know what frame of reference truly was. Now I do, thanks to you. Einstein was completely a monster when it came to physics. Wish he could be here to see this thread.
            Although I can see better why you'd argue that the cube would fly out, I still stand by what I said. Ignoring the cube for a second--If you reached inside of the blue portal at the moment the orange portal made contact with where the cube would be, your hand wouldn't get crushed.

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is the perfect example of a scissor statement, and I wish death upon every low IQ moron who posts in here.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      pick side or gtfo

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

    See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

    no one cares about your shitty mod, you could pogram it to be either answers

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It's how portals behave under B.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        And I programmed my dog to jump exactly how I want him to, now shit the fuck up

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >no one cares about your shitty mod
      >he thinks he was the one that made the mod

      let me guess, every time sixty seconds pass, a minute goes away?

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    fucking zoomers

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The momentum isn't magically appearing, it's coming from the other portal slamming down. That energy can't just disappear

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why do we have daily threads now?
    These used to be weekly or even bi-weekly

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      you mean A-weekly?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not Italian

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone but literal third worlders agrees on B

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      yep, it shows the level of american education

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, we agree on B not being the answer.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Where are you from?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          USA

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            yep, it shows the level of american education

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >makes OK sign
    >puts finger through one end
    >finger shoots the fuck out the other end like a rocket
    FUCKKKKKKK

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Either answer would require an objective viewpoint, which does not exist.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The effects of relativity do not require a universal reference point.
      The exact opposite is true, they preclude a universal reference point from existing.
      This is what people fail to understand when they try to claim "you could see it moving and not moving at the same time" as a paradox (that and a childish misunderstanding of what being an "observer" means)

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Its A. Before any gay says "but muh momentum is relative..." Ok. I ask you this: relative to what? If you say the portals, then congrats, you are retarded.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Relative to deez nuts

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      If you're asking "relative to what" and you're supporting A, you don't know what "relative momentum" means. Here's a hint, there's no correct answer to that question.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine you put yourselft in place of the box. Then you look up and you see the portal coming. It doesnt matter if the portal is comming at the speed of light because the portal is not an actual object. If you cross the portal stationary, you will cross it stationary because there is no actual force being applied to the object. Its like saying and arbitrary point of space time is an object. Its not. There is no relative momentum because there is no direct interaction witth the object passing the portal, you are specultating based on a false premise.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >If you cross the portal stationary, you will cross it stationary
          All objects are "stationary" in their own frame of reference.
          They're still moving.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            And the two portals are still in relative space to it. One is not on the moon while the other is in Idaho.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Another person who gets it. The portal is not a 'thing', it's just distorted spacetime, so the cube does not need to conserve speed in relation to it. The portal is not an observer.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Define stationary.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            not moving relative to the lab. There is no relative to the portals because the portal are not a valid point of reference. B literally breaks reality. What happens if both portals are moving at the speed of light? B is litterally impossible.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Oops, you defined a particular frame of reference as more important than any other. Try again.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >B literally breaks reality
              Universal frames of reference do not exist

              The effects of relativity do not require a universal reference point.
              The exact opposite is true, they preclude a universal reference point from existing.
              This is what people fail to understand when they try to claim "you could see it moving and not moving at the same time" as a paradox (that and a childish misunderstanding of what being an "observer" means)

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Cube emerges from the blue portal according to a """""stationary""""" observer standing in the lab
              Oh fuck guys that's movement you've invalidated your point before you even started with whatever other bullshit you were on about before.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Precisely. The portal is not an object. It is just a region of spacetime.
      SPACE IS NOT AN OBJECT.
      ONLY OBJECTS CAN BE OBSERVERS.
      Therefore the portal is not a observer in relativity and there is no conservation of speed in relation to the portal.
      The cube conserves speed (0) relative to the platform it is on and the environment around it, therefore it does not shoot out the other end for no reason.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous
        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Proving A right, nice.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Situation 3 cannot happen. The box will perpetually be pulled by orange and blue portals until it finally falls down by gravity. Once the box exits the blue portal, the orange portal pulls it back and at the same time pushes it back by the movement of the train.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            It's the same situation, 3 times. Sorry anon, your IQ is too low.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >make situation that depends on impossible variables
              >pretend its truth
              >"uh sorry your IQ is too low"

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Nah situation 3 relies on the movement of the train and the box just floats. 2 actually gives force to the box multiplied by the velocity of the train.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            What is the earth moving? What is the sun moving across the milky way? What is the milky way moving? You yourself are moving at 30 kilometers per second across space, can you say you aren't moving?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Because the air around you is also moving at the same speed

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Your animation is wrong. It should have stopped the moment it hits the portal, but instead it gains twice the speed on its way out relative to a stationary observer. Your example literally breaks physics, you disingenuos gay.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Relative to a stationary observer
            You haven't defined stationary, and you haven't established why a stationary observer is more important than any other frame of reference.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Its A.
      No it's B.

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >this is what Afags actually believe

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Bfags are literal children who get distracted by le blue and orange circles
      Put a coin on the ground and slam down a cylinder on it. Does your coin shoot out the top of the cylinder? No? Then why do you support B? The portals are the same exact thing as the cube.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        How does your hypothetical experiment prove anything? You're just slamming a coin. Anon, you are just retarded.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      except force is being put onto the arrow by the bow.
      at no point in the portal problem does anything touch or influence the cube's momentum other than gravity.

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Are we at the "emerging" stage yet?

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's hard to wrap my head around it because the moving portal is like, pulling everything from the other side along with it. Like could the cube be crushed from the air pressure coming down that fast on it.
    I still don't know why it would go flying though.

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Assuming portals could exist then it would have to be B.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who supports B is someone who thinks that if you drop a big hoop over someone's head, the person should shoot into the air like a rocket.
    After all, from the hoop's point of view you are accelerating towards it, so you should automatically leap in the air when it drops over you!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      in universe b, if you place a portal on the bottom of a giant cube, and another portal at the top, and drop it on someone so that the portal falls over them, they won't fly into the air, because the thing that causes them to be launched is the fact that the ends of the portal are moving independantly of each other.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Not the same situation, the gravity vector changed. Invalid comparison.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's the exact same situation. The portal is just a glorified hoop or tunnel. If you don't get that you are a simpleton that gets distracted by irrelevant details and there's no point convincing you otherwise.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Please show me a hoop or tunnel with 2-dimensional spatially disconnected apertures

          • 6 days ago
            ALMSIVI

            That's what the portals are anon

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why exactly do Atards think 2 moving portals that cancel out each other's relative velocities is the same as 1 moving portal?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      False. See

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

      .

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Ignore this guy

      False. See [...].

      and his fake game cope video

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

      This is the real game

      Here's what it looks like in the ACTUAL, REAL game not some rewritten cope game.

      and the real result

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why are Afags so obsessed with hula hoops and doorways? Do they not see how deranged they sound?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        they are incapable of seeing the difference hoola hoops and the two portals in picture. They unironically think a hoola hoop is a good comparison, and despite how many times it's explained that its not, they just ignore it.

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Suppose the only 3 things in the world are the box, the entrance portal, and the exit portal.

    How do you define the behavior of the box in terms of the relative velocities of these 3 things with respect to each other?

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    alright bfags, lets try arguing with your logic.
    we have three chickens, one goes moo and lays milk, another goes meow and lays pancakes, the third is actually a quantum chicken that shits out eggs at an unknown rate between dimensions.
    how many times does a dog have to quack at a flying toaster with a worm riding it for the dead chicken to lay one diamond thats equal in value to bitcoin in BC 1900?

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I love how A-Fags literally disregard physics and mathematics and all they have is
    >NO THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS
    >IMAGINE HOOLA HOOPS

    I bet A-Fags are all americans

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >DOOD THE CUBE SUDDENLY HAS A BAJILLION MOMENTUM ADDED TO IT BECAUSE... IT JUST DOES OK?!?!?!

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Afag learns about gravity

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          exactly, gravity is the only force acting upon the cube.
          its A.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        What's the difference between 2 drivers driving with 100km/h directly into each other and me driving with 200km/h into your stationary ass?

        • 6 days ago
          ALMSIVI

          You're describing a transfer of energy between two objects, either the two trucks or the truck and the person being hit by the truck (my ass).

          In the case of the portal problem the only object in the problem with any momentum is the piston, what is the piston transferring its energy to? It isn't the cube, so if the cube isn't having any energy transferred to it then how could it accelerate?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        but what if it already has a bajillion momentum?

        In the real world, there would be air moving out from the orange portal that slows down the cube

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      But it is a hoola hoop
      Just because it is coloured orange and blue does not make it any less of a hoola hoop
      It acts exactly like a hoola hoop

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You can't move half a hula hoop.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

        See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The thing I get sick of in these threads is someone makes a good point on either side that's genuinely compelling, and then the thread seems to bend around it like water so people can get to posting webms at each other.

    This debate is dead.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, when Afags' points are decisively refuted they just ignore the post no matter how many times you link it back to them.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      B chads are literally arguing with theory of relativity here and creating webms that literally show the absurdity of the opposite faction while A fags are just screeching and saying physics ain't real

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      A fags literally always get their points disputed, and their only rebuttal is "that's not how I think physics words"

      B fags use physics, thought experiments, and point out the logical inconsistencies in A fags internal models, and they just ignore it because "the cube wasn't moving"

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If I threw the cube at 5 m/s at a portal heading towards me at 10 m/s, and the exit portal is 100 meters above me, dropping at a constant 3 m/s, how fast will the cube be going when it hits me?
    You may assume there is no air friction.

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    A fags cant comprehend basic relativity
    pathetic ngl

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnome test
    >muh relativity
    >muh nihilism
    hula hoop wins every time

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Actually you don't even know how a hoop works

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      See

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B fags have to be trolling at this point
    There is no other explanation
    Do they see someone put on a ring on his finger and expect the finger to violently shoot off his hand
    Unbelievable

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Same question then:

      Ignoring what happens afterwards, does the speed that platform moves down influence the speed that the cube "emerges" from the portal?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      How do you put on a ring such that only the side you are entering is moving but not the side you are exiting?
      Please post a webm demonstrating this behavior.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >a hole in space is two entities
        Seems like the problem is that you don't understand that the portals are a single entity.
        If the orange portal is moving towards an object, the blue portal is doing the same by definition as they are one and the same thing.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >the blue portal isn't actually moving in the thought experiment that explicitly has it moving, trust me bro!!!
          Ok retard.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            How retarded are you?
            If one end of the portal is moving, so is the other.
            That greentext doesn't make any sense because I'm saying the literal opposite. You are low IQ.

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Afags just aren't able to think abstractly enough
    By definition, it's impossible to convince them of why B is correct. It's basically like two groups arguing in a different language.
    It's not that Afags don't understand what you say. They just don't understand what you mean.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >DOOD YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND
      >THE CUBE HAS FORCE MAGICALLY ADDED TO IT!
      >WHERE DOES THIS FORCE COME FROM... THE PORTAL!
      >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT POINT OUT HOW PORTALS WORK IN GAME!!!!!

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >DOOD YOU JUST DONT UNDERSTAND
        >THE BALL HAS FORCE MAGICALLY ADDED TO IT!
        >WHERE DOES THIS FORCE COME FROM... THE EARTH!
        >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT ASK ME TO EXPLAIN BY WHAT MECHANISM THIS FORCE IS APPLIED!!!!!

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          exactly, gravity is the only force acting upon the cube.
          its A.

          but replace cube with ball.

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You're standing inside of a moving train with an orange portal placed on the wall. The blue portal is placed on the wall inside of a stationary room. If you step into the orange portal, will you:

    >A: Step normally into the room.
    >B: Violently shoot out and begin tumbling in the same direction the train had been moving.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      switch those answers so it's less confusing.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Same as putting one leg out on ground and one leg on the moving train.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      A, therefore B.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >passenger isnt constantly moving at the speed of train
      least retarded A fag

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You realize that question is posited to show why B is correct, right?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      As soon as any part of your body entered the orange portal it would be instantly ripped off (or broken/deformed) due to the speed differential.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't it the other way around?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This scenario is different; the train that you are on is moving, therefore you are moving. That's like if you opened a door on a moving train and stepped out. The portal problem isn't that; it's like if a train was moving towards you but had a hole big enough for you to fit in without the train touching your body. The train would just pass over you without you moving.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >The portal problem isn't that; it's like if a train was moving towards you but had a hole big enough for you to fit in without the train touching your body. The train would just pass over you without you moving.
        That is literally not what's happening since in the portal problem that hole is you moving between two points in space.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's not real moving you through two points in space so much as it is connecting them. It's a like wormhole; a magic tunnel that somehow has no length.

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    a fags can't even realise how a hula hoop is different from two portals moving together in the exact same way, and you expect them to be able to tell the difference between a hula hoop and two portals moving independantly of each other?

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The surface the portal is on, the piston, moves.
    The rest of the room is thus moving relatively in regards to the piston.
    The piston stops moving when it hits the platform, thus halting the relative movement of everything else in the room.
    Therefore the cube halts, until gravity pulls it off the now sloped surface.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >still no replies
      Bkeks I expected better from you...

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    why do so many left-leaning 'creatives' turn out to be sex pests

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      because they're a fags.

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's A and always has been you can try it in portal yourself. Moving portals do whacky shit but you will get A 99% of the time.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      so you would say this gif is accurate?

      In the real world, there would be air moving out from the orange portal that slows down the cube

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    OK as a trans woman I say the cube should fly out

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm trans and black and I say A

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why do A fags believe that objects have objective momentum?

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Every dedicated bottom I've fucked has been an Afag.
    Every dedicated top that has fucked me has been a Bfag.

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >relativity says all frames of reference are correct
    >question is "which of the two options is the actual frame of reference"

    fucking retards, the actual answer is that A and B are both correct as long as they actually happen. It's a philisophical paradox, because you get to choose the outcome, that outcome becomes correct by virtue of relativity stating all frames of reference are correct

    it's impossible for a frame of reference to have two outcomes in relativity

    almost like portals are fictional and couldn't exist in real loif

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Are centrists like you even dumber than A-Fags?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >animefag chud drops the shittiest take
      whoa, stop the presses

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You are correct.
      HOWEVER, if we accept that portals exist exactly as they appear in the game, then it's B because portals in the game preserve momentum (the directional component specifically) only relative to the portal's frame of reference.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Here's what it looks like in the ACTUAL, REAL game not some rewritten cope game.

        Game is an A-chad

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The unmodded game will just break and not let the cube through the portal, you can change the code to be whatever you want, eat my entire ass.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >The unmodded game
            That webm is the unmodded game with the moving portal option (off by default) turned on. Cope and seethe.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah sure it is, whatever you fuckin say.
              If we want to remove the ambiguity of potentail mods in webms, we could just ask the devs what they would have done
              Oh wait, we did, and it was B, and you're ignoring that because it's inconvenient to your point.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh wait, we did, and it was B
                Oh yeah? Prove it.
                Protip: You can't because that never happened and you are COPING hard.

                HAHAHAHAH BFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >That webm is the unmodded game
              False. Stop lying.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                it would take you all of what, 15 minutes to download the game and the map and try it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And you'll find objects get stuck with moving portals.
                Lying little rat.

                You can cope all you want but ultimately you know that you are wrong and that I won the internet argument. This makes you extremely mad because of your uncontrolled dunning-kruger fueled autism. I'm better than you and I demonstrated it here in front of everyone. Your are the laughing stock of the thread.
                Hahaha ez.

                See above.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >See above.
                I don't need to. I'm already in your head and I'm gonna be there for a long time after wiping the floor with you. Everyone witness of it, too. Ihave even taken screenshots to post them when the new threads show up in the catalog. HAHAHHAHAH you are literally my pet.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You can cope all you want but ultimately you know that you are wrong and that I won the internet argument. This makes you extremely mad because of your uncontrolled dunning-kruger fueled autism. I'm better than you and I demonstrated it here in front of everyone. Your are the laughing stock of the thread.
                Hahaha ez.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        EXCEPT you fucking B-fags momentum ALSO abides by relativity and a cube flying through a portal ALSO has momentum relative to a 3rd observer in the room, hence momentum is preserved. Portal-relative momentum is no more correct that observer-relative momentum, A and B are equally correct, it's really that SIMPLE

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck is that real?

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bfags:
    >speedy cube goes in
    >speedy cube comes out

    Afags:
    >speedy cube goes in
    >stationary cube comes out

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Just like my speedy dick in your mom's pussy

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >speedy cube goes in
      The cube's at rest, dumbass.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        How fast did it enter the portal?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It didn't because you can't enter something with 0 depth.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            How fast did it enter the portal?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It didn't enter the portal because the portal has no inside, it has 0 depth.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It did not enter anything, it remained at rest.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >speedy cube
        Relative to what? Certainly not the platform it's on, and remains on at all points.

        see

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The portal doesn't think so.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The portal doesn’t actually exist. You moved the point in space that the cube occupies by magic, there isn’t a force acting on the cube.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >You moved the point in space that the cube occupies
            This is the same as moving the cube.
            There doesn't need to be "a force". The cube is now moving (without force, by magic) per your own words.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              No, you moved the point in space. It is not the same as moving the cube. It is like you are spinning a roulette wheel, the arrow is in the same position

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >No, you moved the point in space. It is not the same as moving the cube.
                These are the same. Changing a point in space is moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No it isn’t. Moving is changing your location within space. Portals change the location of a point in space to overlap with another point in space. You can’t move space itself irl

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Portals change the location of a point in space to overlap with another point in space.
                Which thereby changes its location, and is therefore movement. You can't semantics your way out of this.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If you step through a portal 5 feet away and come out 5 miles away do you use the energy of running 5 miles or 5 feet?
                Obviously you use the energy of moving 5 feet even if your location changed by 5 miles. The force differential happens when you changed the location of the space you were moving through, but you can’t move space. It’s magic hula hoop.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Still can't semantics out of it, buddy. Not in the same location means you moved. "Force differential" doesn't even enter into it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The space moved, not you. Otherwise portals don’t even work.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There is no difference between space moving around you and you moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                “Space moving around you” doesn’t exist irl
                You are getting “space” confused with “surroundings”

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't have to "exist irl". In this thought experiment, a portal is space moving around you.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You realize portals don't exist in real life either?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No shit gay. Because they are impossible because you can’t move the location of a point in space to another point in space. Objects exist within space, but in portal you have the magic power to move a point in space without exerting any force on the objects that occupy it.
                There is no force, it’s magic. No matter what frame of reference you take THERE IS NO FORCE

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So then how do you explain the moving train example?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The moving train example isn’t relevant since you’re dealing with the consequences of linking a point in space with radically different acting forces on them rather than linking a point in space where no force is applied on either end.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn't make sense because the train is essentially just the original example but in reverse, where rather than being a stationary object made to move you're a moving object made to be stationary. You're basically saying that in the original argument A is true but in the train example B is true.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The point you keep missing is that moving the space around an object doesn’t follow the same rules as moving an objects surroundings. The magic by which portals operate is that you can change points in space to other points in space.
                When you are on the train the train is a valid point of reference because it is your surroundings
                Moving space itself is not a valid point of reference

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Moving space itself is not a valid point of reference
                Why?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Because it defies the laws of physics. Like I said if you use a portal to travel 5 miles but your body only used the energy to travel 5 feet where did the rest of that energy come from? Well the energy had to be used to move the space, but how does that work?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Yes there is.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Explain what it is.
                Do try, I want to see you try. I would love to see if you can actually explain it in any sensible manner.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I can only explain it to you if you understand that portals change the position of space within space.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I understand that, now explain the difference. Don't just say it's different, you already said that. Explain the difference now.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If movement is dependent on the position of space then there would be unaccounted for momentum imparted into an object, we can call this the B force.
                Using Portals numbered 1 and 2 we change the location of space within space. Lets say we have 50 miles between the portals.
                Object is stationary and leaves the portal 1's area of space entering portal 2's area of space.
                Object remains stationary unless the B force acts upon it.
                So the answer would be A unless space can act upon objects.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It cannot rise from the boundary of portal 2 AT ALL without force. Therefore moving space must act upon objects.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It cannot rise from the boundary of portal 2 AT ALL without force.
                Why not?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There's air in the way. Can't move air without force.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The cube isn’t moving. The space the cube occupies was moved.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                That still requires the displacement of air, which requires force.
                Moving space will displace. Repeat it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It is not moving, the air around it doesn’t move either.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If the air around it does not move, then it never actually enters the portal.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Correct, because the portal is not an object that exists. It is a 0 depth representation of a point in space that has become united. You don’t “enter the portal”, you moved the space “under” the object.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It is a 0 depth representation of a point in space that has become united.
                That's not what portals are. Portals are links between two points, not a uniting of two points into one. X leads to Z, skipping Y, not X becomes Z.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                A fags even forgot what portals are

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No it has already displaced the air.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It cannot have "already displaced the air". The air is there before the portal is moved around it, altering its spatial coordinates.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The object is in location 1
                >the the portals are opened and space is changed.
                >Portal 1 moves over object.
                >Object and the air around it is now in location 2
                When does the air act upon it?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                When the portal moves over it, duh.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Because for the first portal to move over it, and therefore for it to rise from the second portal, it must traverse the space matching its own volume past the second portal's limits.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >it must traverse the space matching its own volume past the second portal's limits.
                Why would "traversing" the space impart force upon the object?
                You have this entirely backwards.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would "traversing" the space impart force upon the object?
                Why would it not? That's what movement is.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Movement
                Force moves an object through space

                >Portals
                Magic moves space through space

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And here's why it's not A:
                That doesn't change a goddamn thing. The magic will keep moving the cube. It won't just stop, as that requires a second, entirely unnecessary and unjustified layer of magic.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The space the cube is occupied is moved to the location of the blue portal
                The space the cube occupies is now on an incline, and gravity acts on the cube
                There is no magic force from the piston acting here

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The space the cube is occupied is moved to the location of the blue portal
                >moved
                >>>>>>>>>>

                [...]


                There you have it. You admit it moved. And now it will keep moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You moved space through space. You didn’t move the cube

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Moving space moves the cube.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, you moved the space.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Which moves the cube. Moving the space moves the cube. Otherwise it never gets to the other space.
                You cannot, CANNOT disjoin space and the cube. The cube is within the space.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The cube never moves
                The only “other” space it gets to is the space immediately next to it, but that’s a result of gravity.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The cube has to move, or else it won't get through the air already in the way. We've been through this.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There is no air “in the way” the cube didn’t move

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If the cube didn't move, then it didn't enter the portal. We've been through this too.

                You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

                I remain correct, and you remain inconsistent.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The space moved around the cube. There is no portal

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no portal
                So you've been talking about your own imagination this whole time, huh.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The portal isn’t an object. It’s a point in space

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's a connection between two points in space. Not a singular point.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It is a point, or rather a 2dimensional series of points. Otherwise there would be a gap when you move between them.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There is no gap, they are sequential to the planck length.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, the object has already displaced the air within it's locality. If it did not do that then the object is itself gaseous.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. Not valid. Its locality is being changed.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Its locality is being changed.
                You dumb fucking moron, we agreed that portals change space within space. It's locality is the same.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Changing space changes its locality numbnuts.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How are you people this fucking stupid that you can’t understand moving space and moving an object within space arent the same thing?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How are you so stupid that you don't realize those ARE the same thing, and every time you try to explain otherwise you get served and shown how it is, again and again and again?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It is not the same thing.
                You are incapable of wrapping your head around the concept of moving space itself.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I understand it flawlessly. You fail to explain the difference because there IS no difference.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                How do you move space in real life
                How much energy is required to move one unit of space
                Make me a portal gun anon, explain to me where the energy comes from to create the water wheel in

                Why are you caught up on "what" moves the object?

                Portals fundamentally break newtons laws of motion. Imagine two portals, one above, then pour a bunch of water in it. Use that to spin a water wheel, and since gravity will be continuously accelerating it, you have literal infinite and perpetual energy. With two portals in that arrangement, you literally have infinite potential energy, since you can fall forever.

                It defies all laws of physics because it’s a fucking magic hula hoop

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you keep coming back to this? It doesn't have to happen in real life for it to be understood.
                It can defy physics and still remain consistent within its thought experiment, you intellectual coward.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Kinetic and Potential energy, bro. If you don't understand the difference between those, you don't understand relativity.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The energy is identical in both situations. Newton's third law.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The total amount of energy is identical, no shit.
                What's the difference between a stone that has all of its energy in potential vs a stone that has only 50% of its energy in potential? How fast is the second stone moving?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Cube moves
                >But actually it doesn't even through it fufills all the criteria of movement because actually ???????
                Also holding the arrow still and spinning the wheel is the same as holding the wheel still and spinning the arrow, it's just a diffrence in refrence frame

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                If the question is “does the arrow move when I spin the wheel” the obvious answer is no because no force is acting on the arrow. The relative difference in speed doesn’t fucking matter you need an acting force.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The relative difference in speed doesn’t fucking matter you need an acting force.
                Source?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Source?
                E=mc^2
                It's all about ENERGY

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                There is no velocity or force in this formula.

                So source?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The cube doesn't move you retard the space it occupies changes, how is it so hard for people to reconcile illogical concepts like portals with their 8th grade understanding of physics?

              If you put a portal at two opposite ends of the observable universe and stepped through it would you suddenly come flying out faster than the speed of light because DUHHHH LOCATION CHANGEY MAKE HEAD HURT HOW LOCATION CHANGE BUT NO MOVE FAST

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >the space it occupies changes
                This is what is known as "movement".

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, movement only occurs if the object itself moves. There is no law that dictates that an object cannot change it's position within space without moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >If i change the definition of movement, it's not moving

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >No, movement only occurs if the object itself moves
                Actually, movement is relative.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You don't understand the statement.

                >If i change the definition of movement, it's not moving

                Cope.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Man without brain tells someone else they don't understand the problem.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I understand the statement. You don't understand that movement is relative. The portal thinks it is standing still and the cube (and the stand and the planet) is hurtling at it.

              • 6 days ago
                ALMSIVI

                Average mathematician that can't tell the difference between his abstract numbers and how the real world behaves

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >speedy cube
      Relative to what? Certainly not the platform it's on, and remains on at all points.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >stationary cube comes out
      But the cube comes out at the same speed as it goes in. If it didn't, it wouldn't come out.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, that's why A doesn't make fucking sense

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You are the one not making sense here.
          If I throw a punch at you thought the portal at 100mph, anybody on the other side will get punched at 100mph (Speedy punch in, speedy punch out).
          Now explain why my arm should detach of my shoulder and fly off. If we do the same but instead of me punching at 100mph the portal is going towards my extended arm at 100mph and stops right at my shoulder.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >If I throw a punch at you thought the portal at 100mph
            kek that's exactly why you can't even get close to that speed
            in any situation where your fist reaches that acceleration it would certainly come off your body

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >retard misses the point entirely on purpose because he noticed he's wrong and doesn't have a comeback
              lol
              Change 100mph for 10mp, the point still stands.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                The point doesn't stand, because if I somehow sucked your punch at 10mps, your fist would obviously just pull the rest of your body with you. Which is exactly what would happen if a portal went over your arm and stopped mid body. Only that 10mps is a velocity you might be able to control and pull back. The cube is not glued to the platform so it's retarded to make a comparison. Nonetheless, if someone's face was in front of the exit portal, he will be punched.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The point doesn't stand
                Except it clearly does and you are an philistine in denial.
                If I punch you through a portal at 10mph. My punch goes in(speedy thing in) at 10mph and comes out (speedy thing goes it) at 10mph.
                You are simply out of argument.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And what exactly is your argument?
                If you stood still with an extended arm but the portal went across your fist, the person in front of the exit portal would still see the fist as a "speedy thing that is coming in from the other side". In that case, you would probably break your fist because your body wasn't prepared to receive the shock, but the other guy will definitely feel the punch and you would feel his face.
                You simply don't understand relativity.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >And what exactly is your argument?
                I don't get this. You are saying that the point doesn't stand but you also don't know my argument which is pivotal to understand if the point stands or not? Why should I keep replying to someone that is clearly """"arguing"""" in bad faith for no apparent reason? What do I get out of it? Is this really the average person defending the B option? No wonder all of you sound like LMAO WEED type retard I guess.

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The true gigabrain take is that B is correct because the portal is moving the entirety of the universe relative to the stationary portal observer, therefore the entire universe is actually being moved by portals.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      mario if he real

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Mario if he real

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      mario if he real

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    These threads are always just idiots getting baited by trolls and people that never took even a basic physics course in high school.

  48. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    INERTIA IS A PROPERTY OF MATTER YOU DUMB FUCKS
    BILL NYE TAUGHT YOU THIS SHIT 30 YEARS AGO

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >INERTIA IS A PROPERTY OF MATTER YOU DUMB FUCKS
      Only relative to something
      Nothing moves objectively only by itself in space full of nothing

  49. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    A is correct because /a/ is a better board than /b/

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      A fags should adopt this argument because it's the best one I've read today.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's unsurprising that B-fags find the nonsensical arguments to be the best.

  50. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
  51. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    My uncle works for Albert Einstein, and he told me that it's B.

  52. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
  53. 6 days ago
    Anonymous
    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it's okay. But be wary of when the walls slam with each other and the cube will be shocked and pops out with some force, subject to some gravity of course

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The scenario eould still apply for A.
      If you are on a falling doorframe and about to land on a giant spike, it would still kill you, but it doesn’t mean the spike will be tossed in the air.

  54. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If the cube is moving relative to the portal/piston then it should maintain it's movement relative to the porta/piston.
    Therefore when the portal/piston stops the cube also stops.

  55. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Bfags will argue that the answer in this is B too
    LMAO

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Atard doesn't know how fans work
      color me surprised

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        well come on dumBass, how does B work here?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          How do you think fans work, retArd?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I'm a Bfag and I understand why the "rotating machine" doesn't work like a fan, because it has nothing on it moving air around towards the portal.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      the fan amd the air are moving in exactly the same way to the fan can't move the air.

  56. 6 days ago
    ALMSIVI

    [...]

    Literally could be programmed to be either answer you fucking retard, all you've done is link to some retarded youtubers opinion, that's not a proof

  57. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    This is why you B tards cant even read cursive. Fucking morons. There is no force applied to the cube from the pedestal. If the piston smashed the cube from above and the output portal was on a flat surface, it would remain on top of the pedestal without moving or flying out. the portal has no sides, no space, no force, no moment. It literally called ZERO POINT energy. All force comes from external direct action on the reference object. Smoothbrains.

  58. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bschizo still can't explain this

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I mean I'd probably be more worried about the fact that everything surrounding my cock including my internal organs are being pancaked by a giant stone platform attached to a piston.

  59. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    How the fuck is it anything but A?
    >speedy thing comes in, speedy thing comes out.
    it should plop on the ground after coming out of the portal, because it remained stationary when it entered the portal, it wasn't a speedy thing, and therefore it had no momentum to carry into a supposed leap from the second portal.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Just think about it more. Imagine standing in front of the exit portal. Is the cube going to hurt you? Will it hurt more if the portal is coming down harder?

      If it can hurt you, then the cube must have some kind force acting on it.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >then the cube must have some kind force acting on it.
        this implies the platform the cube was on moved up at a high speed when the portal was coming down on it, which is clearly not the case, nothing is applying force to the portal, and a portal is more like a doorway than a chute, there's no air being sucked out of or in a portal.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Portals already change direction without touching the object, normally that requires a force too.
          >But the direction doesn't change relative to the portal
          Then it's B, cause the momentum doesn't change relative to the portal there either

  60. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I think I actually just figured something out about quantum gravity. Thanks Ganker.

  61. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What if the box was on a podium that the portal could pass over before being stopped further down by outcroppings? What happens to the cube on top when it stops?

  62. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B tards really think portals are a fucking Hot wheels flywheel booster

  63. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT people who gaslit themselves into thinking they know physics

  64. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, enough with the A & B fag arguing. What I want to know is if I had two portals over top of each other and put a long pole into the portals long enough for it to make contact and rest on its other end. Could I let it go and have the pole support itself? Or would it just be a continuous pole with no end falling through the portals?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You could probably do that in gmod or something

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, I drew it for a better visual understanding.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, I drew it for a better visual understanding.

      every part of the pole is being pulled down by gravity. it falls.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Neat, thanks for the response anon.

  65. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Consider the following

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      No force is imparted into the cube.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      cube is launched twice as hard.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      cube gets squished or the pistons crumble

  66. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The lengths Bfags go to cope thread after thread, year after year, its amazing. It was not enough to write up essays, make animations that are baseless, now you have a sperg programmer making an app that can be programmed perfectly to support your BS. You all know that the original Bfags were trolling right?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Some of us take this as an exercise to understand abstract physics. Trolling or not, if you want to learn, you learn. Keep seething. I enjoy this.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >seething
        Buddy im laughing my ass off. The fact you think you are getting anything out of this is even more hilarious.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          then we both happy 🙂

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      anyone who gets their laughs by pretending to be retarded will eventually and inevitably be invaded by actual retards who think they are in good company, this is why the B argument is still going.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Its staggering that this has not just been going on for years but it seems be getting worse, with more pseuds joining in.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          for me its a perfect example for why democracy is flawed.
          look at this B-anon for example

          >people citing a video game over real life
          Holy shit Afags are actually retarded

          he's using a A argument to defend B.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            See

            >you literally just cited the most common A argument.
            Yes, and Atards like (You) are too stupid to realize it's actually an argument for B.
            See [...].

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >i modded the game to change how portals work so they work the way i want, that means im right!

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's how portals behave under B.
                Your post is irrelevant. You stupid donkey.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah well part of it is still the fact that ~50% of the Bfags are just in it to keep it going knowing its wrong. Its the other half thats really scary.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Typo, meant to say Afags.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Oh fuck I responded too soon It was right the first time with Bfags I dont know why this keeps happening

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        typo, meant to say A argument.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          No wait, I hade it right the first time. Disregard

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      subtle troll, I like it

  67. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Afags should just repeat "the cube comes out fast" as a dogma over and over, until their brain just makes the click. There is no point trying to change how someone's logic is wired in one second.

  68. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    When did it magically appear? The cube always had momentum.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      There is no portal. The cube remains at the same place despite space changing around it.

  69. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >put two portals into vacuum with no influence of gravity
    A gays:
    >box comes through at the speed the portal dropped on it
    >box somehow loses the speed it had on entry and proceeds to drift off at an undefined, lower speed
    a fags are clinically retarded

  70. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >portals inherently change the velocity vector, therefore making them accelerators
    >force is mass * acceleration
    >b-but there's no force acting upon the cube !!!
    Do Afags really...?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You're misrepresenting the A argument. The movement of the cube is dependent on any force the cube itself had, and the area around it. Ultimately, a moving portal is NOT said force. The B argument believes that moving a portal is enough to make the cube move.

      Of course, it could be those stinky B-fags are so desperate they're just pretending A believes the B argument so they can prove themselves wrong.
      Are B fags are self-loathing privileged liberals?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        So when you throw a cube through stationary portals facing different directions, what force causes the cube to change directions? Allah's divine will?

  71. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    In the original example you clearly see that the box has some speed as it is emerging from the portal. If you believe in A, why would the box suddenly stop the moment it has fully cleared the portal rather than keep moving?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's exactly why A is so funny. The actual logical conclusion of it is the cube doesn't enter the portal and prevents it from moving further (which is what actually happens in game engine btw) or gets crushed into a tiny sheet.
      But they are so fucking retarded they don't even realize that.

  72. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >people citing a video game over real life
    Holy shit Afags are actually retarded

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Portals aren't real

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You dumb fuck, you literally just cited the most common A argument.
      How fucking contrarian are the B-fags getting? Is this seriously "Duck Season-Rabbit season" back and forth switching now?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >you literally just cited the most common A argument.
        Yes, and Atards like (You) are too stupid to realize it's actually an argument for B.
        See

        That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

        See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

        .

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Is this seriously "Duck Season-Rabbit season" back and forth switching now?
        Always was

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the most common A argument completely supports B's position
        i'm not even surprised, Afags are completely defined by their total lack of understanding of how anything works.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but A fags don't seem to realize that the guy and the door are moving away from each other pretty fast all of a sudden.
        The door's doing all the moving, sure, but now make half the door move and half the door not move.. Oops, Afags can't comprehend that.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Not being able to tell the difference between
        >the entrance and exit portals both moving in the same direction back-to-back
        >the entrance portal moving only, and the exit portal being still
        is an Afag problem

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That's an explanation that Afags give, Anon.

        Do Afags really not understand that one portal is half of a "door"

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      That's an explanation that Afags give, Anon.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        So A fags think the door frame will carry the person along with them once they cross the threshold.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >So A fags think the door frame will carry the person along with them once they cross the threshold.
          What? No. A fags think that the cube doesn't fly off because portals behave like a door does except the entrance and exist separated in space.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >portals behave like a door
            In other words, speedy thing goes into one side means speedy thing goes out the other side, right?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I know brainlets have an easier time with visual representation so use this is a reference of how a door works (lol)

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          No, team A cites doors, hula hoops, hole in the wall, and the momentum puzzles
          team B cites some weird train gif and a gross misrepresentation of the moon scene

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >hula hoops
            See

            That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

            See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >weird train gif
            This one?

            Are you Atards too stupid to understand Galilean relativity?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Are you too stupid to realize that has NOTHING to do with the argument

  73. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The portal is magic you stupid fucktard

  74. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Can any Afag explain to me how the cube is coming out fast but it turns out it wasn't coming out fast?
    don't try to talk about momentum, mass, inertia, or even relativity. You retards just don't understand what those concepts represent. Let's talk simple baby logic.
    Why fast thing isn't fast suddenly

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the cube is coming out fast

      Do you even think you know what it means?

      HOLY SHIT LOOK HOW FAST THAT BALL IS GOING INTO THE BOX!!!
      You dumb fucking retard

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      A fags cope by saying the portals are magic hence the cube is just """occupying the space""" without any motion whatsoever
      yes, it's retarded as it sounds

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >the portals are magic
        THE PORTALS ARE MAGIC YOU moron!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Why fast thing isn't fast suddenly
      It never was fast. It was stationary. Only one portal was fast

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        But I see the cube coming at me really fast, it don't look stationary at all, see

  75. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >take toilet paper roll
    >take dice
    >drop roll on dice
    >dice does not go flying out
    hm I could've worn that would work. maybe I should try a hula hoop instead.

  76. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone please define the formula of momentum for the Afags that don't know?

  77. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >there are people who genuinely believe it's B

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >B fags can vote just like A chads
      >B fags can reproduce just like A chads
      >B fags can have jobs just like A chads
      I want OFF OF THIS PLANET

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >A chads
        No such thing.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >chAd can't be spelled without A
          >chAd has no B in it
          OH NO NO B FAGS DON'T LOOK

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >first letter of the ALPHAbet
            >Beta starts with B
            >Alpha starts with A

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >"These people are stupid."
        >"At what speed is the cube exiting the portal?"
        >"That's easy, it's 0. Any other questions?"

  78. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine there is a piece of cardboard over the exit portal. What happens to it?

    Not a single A fag will give a coherent answer to this.

  79. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    All Afags should literally be killed for dragging down humanity's collective intelligence

  80. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Notice how often A fags say "I have no idea why B fags would even believe that, it makes no sense" while you never see a B fag saying they don't understand why A fags exist, just that their logic is wrong.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Well yeah, even smart people will have a knee-jerk reaction and think A makes sense for a moment.
      It takes a bit of searching to actually get to the point of
      >wait, why does it STOP?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        That was me. I drew

        >people citing a video game over real life
        Holy shit Afags are actually retarded

        as an argument for A then realised how retarded I was about to make myself look when I actually looked at it

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      because b-fags use pseudo science (that never makes sense) to try and justify B
      speedy thing goes in = speedy thing comes out
      still thing goes in = still thing comes out
      it really doesnt get any more complex than this, the only way B works is if you add arbitrary rules that dont exist.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >References high school level kinematics with stuff like "velocity" and "reference points"
        >Pseudo science

        what

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't get it so it must be bullshit
          Standard A fare, really

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >still thing comes out
        dude

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >drop hula hoop on self
          >since still things cant come out of something i launch into the sky

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            A hula hoop does not instantly move you between two points in space.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              but you are coming out of the top side of the hula hoop, and a still thing cant come out of something. so you get launched.
              this is B logic, anon.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I think you should study a little harder before you try for your GED again.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                i think you should have a nice day, but we both know that your low IQ makes you unable to understand how.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Damn you Afags are so angry all the time lmfao stay in school

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >this is B logic
                False. See

                That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

                See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

                .

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >i modded the game! that means im right!
                >IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM RIGHT STOP LAUGHING AT ME! REEEEEEEEEEE.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                See

                It's how portals behave under B.
                Your post is irrelevant. You stupid donkey.

                .

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >hoola hoop
            See

            That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

            See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >i modded the game! that means im right!
              >IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM RIGHT STOP LAUGHING AT ME! REEEEEEEEEEE.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                See

                It's how portals behave under B.
                Your post is irrelevant. You stupid donkey.

                .

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The box is literally not still if it's moving. The whole crux of the Afag argument isn't that the box never moves, it's that because it's not moving while you observe the first side, when it comes out of the portal it's moving until it magically comes to a stop.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >when it comes out of the portal it's moving until it magically comes to a stop.

          Ironically, this is where A fags actually use pseudo science, make up terms like "emerging", and talk about how the object isn't moving it's being "displaced" or something.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            What moves the object?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The portal on the moving piston does. Why would the box suddenly come to a stop after clearing the portal when it's clearly moving as it emerges?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The portal on the moving piston does.
                How is the portal imparting force on the object.
                >It's clearly moving.
                Define moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Define moving.
                Are you serious? You literally have to lawyer the definition of movement to support your side? If you stand directly in front of the exit portal as the box emerges, is it and the piston just going to completely stop when it comes into contact with you because it's "not moving" or is it going to knock your ass backwards and injure you?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Why are you caught up on "what" moves the object?

              Portals fundamentally break newtons laws of motion. Imagine two portals, one above, then pour a bunch of water in it. Use that to spin a water wheel, and since gravity will be continuously accelerating it, you have literal infinite and perpetual energy. With two portals in that arrangement, you literally have infinite potential energy, since you can fall forever.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Portals fundamentally break newtons laws of motion. Imagine two portals, one above, then pour a bunch of water in it. Use that to spin a water wheel, and since gravity will be continuously accelerating it, you have literal infinite and perpetual energy. With two portals in that arrangement, you literally have infinite potential energy, since you can fall forever.
                Anon, that's just how gravity works. Lmao.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Please take a physics class

                The actual question is "how is energy being created" in this closed system. I hope you realize you can't have infinite potential energy in real life. Where that energy comes from is the same place that the force acting on the cube comes from.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You are not creating energy you are using the force of gravity to generate electricity.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >speedy thing goes in = speedy thing comes out
        Exactly, so B is correct.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          when is the cube speedy?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >so B is correct
          if I extend my arm thought a portal, it's not coming out at the same speed as it went in?

  81. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Has Ganker solved this yet?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      they don't care because the physics from both games are inconsistent

  82. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >you can just magically create portals and disobey the laws of phys-ACK!

  83. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If portal hit the cube at 100m/s I want A chuds to numerically define the velocity of the cube as it emerges from the portal and slows down under the influence of gravity and air pressure
    >inb4 0
    protip: you wont do it and you'll dilate and cope

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, run a hula hoop over your arm. The hoop is the portal. The hoop can be moving as fast as it likes, your arm doesn't move.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >If portal hit the cube
        Portals can't touch anything anon.

        >muh hula hoops
        >muh semantics
        as evident by the fact, A fags are retarded reddit chuds HRT'd into retardation because their brains obviously never went through puberty

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >chud accusations
          And here we have the final destination of Bfag cope. You officially have lost.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >doesnt even deny he's a chud
            I accept your concession

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Your the chud, chud. Cope more Bfag.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I accepted your concession, seething chud
                dilate yourself back to chudera, it's the only place dumb enough on the internet to think it's A

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Your the chud

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >hula hoop
        See

        That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

        See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >i modded the game! that means im right!
          >IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM RIGHT STOP LAUGHING AT ME! REEEEEEEEEEE.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >If portal hit the cube
      Portals can't touch anything anon.

  84. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    You have to have an IQ under 100 to be a Bfag

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      You have to have an IQ under 10 to be a Afag

  85. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >mfw an Afag stands directly in front of the portal and gets gibbed by a box moving at 0 speed

  86. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    PORTALS AREN'T STABLE ON FAST MOVING SURFACES
    A AND B ARE NOT POSSIBLE BECAUSE THE PORTAL WOULD DISINTEGRATE

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      there is a puzzle that requires moving portals ingame.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        SLOW moving portals

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Oh great, the biggest moron of all shows up again: the filthy centrist. Even A and B fags can agree you guys are REALLY dumb.

  87. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I pity the mental condition of A-fags.
    It's all very sad.

  88. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Suppose the piston is moving at 20 m/s. Then the cube must be emerging from the portal at 20 m/s, something that is even shown in this misguided animation. Why would the cube suddenly lose that velocity and momentum when it finishes passing through the portal?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Why would the piston suddenly lose it's velocity and momentum?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Impact with the surface that the cube was previously in contact with. However, there is no such impact that would cause the part of the cube that is already emerging from the portal at 20 m/s to suddenly lose its momentum.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          The cube has the same relative movement to the piston as the platform it's on does.Maintaining this would mean that the cube stops when the piston does. The cube is still on the platform at all times.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            There's nothing stopping the emerging side of the cube, no force acts on it to slow it down except gravity and air friction, neither of which are dominant in this scenario.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >no force acts on it to slow it down
              No force acts to speed it up either. It's still touching the platform.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's touching the platform until the platform stops and the cube continues on. It's the same as if I'd thrown the cube--just because my hand stops moving as I release the cube doesn't mean the cube would stop.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                So the platform is imparting force onto the cube? The platform has no movement relative to the piston or cube anymore though.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                By the time the platform stops moving, it has imparted all of the force necessary to give the cube momentum, which we can plainly see in the momentum it has as it emerges from the portal. Think about one particular instant, as it's emerging 50% of the cube's mass is traveling at 20 m/s diagonally. Then eventually 99% of it is traveling at 20 m/s diagonally. Why then would that 99% stop just because the last 1% has finished moving through the portal?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >it has imparted all of the force necessary to give the cube momentum
                But it never had any momentum relative to the platform. It needs to gain that momentum somewhere and something without mass won't do.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It has momentum relative to the object it's emerging from. Imagine there's an ant sitting on the other side, watching the cube go through. Relative to that ant, the cube is traveling 20 m/s diagonally and clearly has momentum. There's nothing acting against that momentum when the last 1% passes through.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                A portal is not an object, it has no third dimension and no mass.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not saying the portal is an object, I'm referring to the object that the portal is on the surface of--that diagonal-facing platform. Relative to that platform, the cube is travelling 20 m/s diagonally.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                And so is the platform, but then they stop moving relative to each other. Therefore the cube on the platform also stops.
                >but it's through the portal!
                It's also still on the platform.

  89. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    So which one is it.
    Stickman suffers or stickman lands safely?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      B. Don't stand in front of moving portals, it's not going to end well.

  90. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >B fags terrified to put on shirt too hard or head will fly off.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Atards literally don't understand holes

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      See

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >be bfag
      >wake up
      >carefully put shoes on. toes are a little hurt but whatever. its normal.
      >slowly put your clothes on, get launched a little bit when you do but its fine as long as you dont go through a door
      >slowly move through doors, fall over and trip whenever you do due to the sudden force
      >brush your teeth, put the brush in a little too fast and it jabs the back of your throat, ouch!
      >eating breakfast, whenever you swallow a bite the food is launched down into your stomach, slight ache due to this
      >oh shit running late for work
      >slowly go out of your front door and into the car, speeding off.
      >dont realize that a branch has fallen onto the traffic light, technically turning it into a portal.
      >as you are speeding past your car suddenly speeds up a few thousand times, blowing past several other cars and turning the people inside into mist
      >sharp turn ahead
      >ram into a concrete wall, killing you instantly.
      >whats left of your body is cremated
      >as its poured into a jar the dust flies down with excessive force and breaks the jar.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Atards too stupid to understand basic logic
        See

        That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

        See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          See [...]

          See [...].

          See [...].

          see

          >i modded the game! that means im right!
          >IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM RIGHT STOP LAUGHING AT ME! REEEEEEEEEEE.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            See

            See [...].

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >i modded the game! that means im right!
              >IM RIGHT IM RIGHT IM RIGHT STOP LAUGHING AT ME! REEEEEEEEEEE.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                See [...].

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                [...]

                if you stop at 1:23 you can clearly see that the cube is getting stuck on the side so the force of the moving platform is transfered into the cube which results in it being flung.
                B-fags are just dumb and ignorant of the details that make up the universe.

  91. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >B makes sense if portals existed
    >portals don't exist because they don't make sense
    >A's logic makes sense in the argument that it can't be B, but wrong since they also take a position that requires portals existing, which by definition makes A's logic faulty

    In the abstract:
    B is right under certain conditions.
    A is wrong under any conditions

  92. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >be me
    >A chad
    >professor brings out the portal gun and piston for a demonstration
    >I stand in front of the portal and bravely proclaim that I will not be hurt because the box is moving at zero speed
    >complete my degree online from purgatory because they have hella fast internet

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      ?t=77

  93. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    What I don't get is why the hulahoop/door argument is so frowned upon.
    If you walk towards the orange portal, you are equally walking towards the blue portal. That makes the comparison between the two completely fair.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because it instantly destroys the B “argument” while being extremely simple to understand

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Bullshit
        See

        That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

        See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      See

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Don't care about your memecoded fake videogame when the real one has been posted already.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It shows how portals behave under B.
          Your post is irrelevant.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >STOP LAUGHING AT ME!
            >I MODDED THE GAME AND CHANGED PORTAL LOGIC! THAT MEANS IM RIGHT.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It shows how portals behave under B.
              Your post is irrelevant.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >STOP LAUGHING AT ME!
                >I MODDED THE GAME AND CHANGED PORTAL LOGIC! THAT MEANS IM RIGHT.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It shows how portals behave under B.
                Your post is irrelevant.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Your post is irrelevant.
            So is your memecoded game and this fact makes you mad.
            I provided factual proof with the actual game that your memegame is garbage.
            I'm superior to you.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It shows how portals behave under B.
              Your post is irrelevant.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Real game > your memegame to cope about your lack of intelligence
                I completely demolished you 🙂

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It shows how portals behave under B.
                Your post is irrelevant.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It shows how portals behave
                No it doesn't because it's some fake game that soem fag came up with to cope about his low IQ.
                I defeated you completely.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The "entry" and "exit" to doorway / hoop are both moving.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Because with a doorway you're not magically jumping between two points in space via a wormhole.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >If you walk towards the orange portal, you are equally walking towards the blue portal.
      No you aren't. Blue portal's not moving at all.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >No you aren't
        Yes you very clearly are.

        >Orange portal is in 1 feet in fron of me.
        >Blue portal is soemwhere else, doesn't matter where
        >I walk one feet towards the orange portal, going through it
        >Now I'm next to the blue portal
        I am, by definition, getting closer to the blue portal every time I get closer to the orange portal.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You get closer only to "the blue portal within the orange portal", an entirely different notion.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >"the blue portal within the orange portal"
            They are the same portal. What kind of nonsense are you talking about here? They are a single entity.
            Is this why A fags are dabbing on B fags so hard? Because a simple concept like this gets twisted to nonsensical levels?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >They are the same portal.
              Then how can one be blue and the other orange?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Diversity quota

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Objects cannot have more then one colour.
                Bfags everyone!

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Atards can't read

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You are unable to comprehend that portals break symmetry.
              It is a single entity, and it is both moving and not moving. The blue portal within the orange portal is moving towards you. The blue portal not within the orange portal is not. (Or is, if it's behind the orange portal i.e. the way you are moving, but that's irrelevant.)

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The blue portal within the orange portal is moving towards you. The blue portal not within the orange portal is not.
                That makes A the only possible solution then.

                The entrance and exit are not the same. Moving both sides is not the same as moving just one.

                >Moving both sides is not the same as moving just one.
                Yes it is, because both are connected. If any object gets close to one portal, gets equally as close to the other.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                No, it makes B the only possible solution.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >That makes A the only possible solution then.
                Nope. That makes B the only reasonable solution.
                There's another valid solution (C: the cube is crushed into a 2D object, unable to move the air behind the portal without force) but nobody supports that one. A doesn't make any sense at all, it goes through and then it stops? So janky.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The blue portal within the orange portal is moving towards you. The blue portal not within the orange portal is not.
                Wait I read that wrong.
                This statement doesn't make sense. Because both portals are one and the same. There isn't "one portal within one portal" both the 'entry' and 'exit' are the same. What you are saying is like saying that there are infinite portals because there's one within one withing another withing another.
                To me it sounds like you are clueless and moving the goalposts.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Again you fail to understand how symmetry is broken. It's one and the same, yes. And it is both moving and not moving.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It's one and the same, yes. And it is both moving and not moving.
                This doesn't mean anything to what I'm saying and doesn't argument anything at all.

                If a cube gets closer to the orange portal, it gets closer to the blue portal.
                This fact, makes A the only real possibility because it turns the portals for all intents and purposes into a hulahoop (as in, both entry and exit move equally thus cancelling each other).

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              The entrance and exit are not the same. Moving both sides is not the same as moving just one.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Afags literally and unironically don't understand their own metaphors
      Can't make this shit up fucking lmao

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >metaphor
        I'm not sure you understand what a metaphor is. I clearly explained what I'm referring in very straightforwards terms.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Take a piece of paper and lay it down flat then place a pencil on it. Then take the same piece of paper, fold it in half, and stick the pencil through it.

  94. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Alright, who's ready for the next thread?

  95. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    MOVEING THOUGH SPACE DOES NOT IMPART FORCE YOU RETARDS! YOU FUCKING BAFFONS!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Moving through space is the ONLY way to impart force, thou fool.

  96. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    In 100 years we'll have real portal technology and this argument will be put to rest.
    And then the opposite side will be genocided as is the morally correct thing to do.

  97. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Under Bfag logic space is finite.

  98. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Thing enters portal with speed, thing exits portal with speed.
    Bchads win again.

  99. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The one thing I learned with this thought experiment is that Newton was wrong and Einstein was right.

  100. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    speedy in, speedy out
    Atards coping and seething

  101. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Okay so the reason why the A argument exists is that people assume that the portals are behaving as though they are the same object or at least physically attached to one another. That is why A arguers bring up a singular door or a singular hula hoop; both portals are being viewed as two different sides of the same object or structure, not two different objects or structures. B assumes that they are not the same object or directly attached to one another. So you would to answer if the portals are somehow attached to each other before you can answer this question.

  102. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >over 600 posts

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is the third thread in a few hours as well. Bfags just don't know how to accept defeat.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >fAgs just don't know how to accept defeat.
        FTFY

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Cope, Butthurt Bfag

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >t. AssmAd fAg

  103. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    So... Achads won?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      fAgs lost

  104. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Ah, another day of btfo'ing retArds

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't capitalize Btfo'ing
      You had one job.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous
  105. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Blue portal on floor, orange on the ceiling. Blue portal moves underneath me, I have 0 velocity. What will happen?

  106. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    looks like we win again, Bros

  107. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >A fags confused how a portal can give an object "speed"
    >Raise no stinks about how a portal can change an objects direction

    I don't even want to call Afags dumb -- this genuinely just shows a lack of a education.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Not even education, but critical thinking

  108. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    portals aren't objects
    they're spatial deformations
    the portal doesn't "move"
    space unfolds itself
    there's no momentum because nothing is actually moving
    the spatial coordinates of the cube simply mean something else

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Bfags cannot comprehend this simple shit.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        fAgs can't comprehend simple logic

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the spatial coordinates of the cube simply mean something else
      Yeah and that's called MOVEMENT.
      Changing coordinates. Is movement.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's not movement, it's special movement.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You moved the sheet of graph paper underneath an object sitting on top of it without moving the object. The coordinates changed, but it’s the paper that moved not the object.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          And as you keep being told, there's no difference between these situations. They are the same situation. It doesn't matter if it's the paper or the object that results in the alteration to coordinates. Both are movement.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Yes it does matter you retard, because we are discussing the force acting on the object on top of the graph paper. If I move the object a force acted on it, if I move the paper no force acted on it. Yet the coordinates change in both instances.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't MATTER that no force acts upon it! It still changed coordinates, it still moved!

  109. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    someone make that patrick wallet meme where the villain tries to explain to patrick how changing space without movement is impossible, but retarded Afag patrick says the cube isnt moving

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >changing space without movement is impossible
      The portal clearly changes space 🙂

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >but that's impossible!
      Now you're thinking with portals!

  110. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    A CHADS WON.

  111. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Third B thread today.
    Hoops always scoops.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, but how do you know that it isn't the left? Like I know that the left makes A right and right makes B right, but how do you which one is in the game?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Neither are in the game. Portal's physics can't tolerate a stationary object transiting a portal. The portal may as well not exist.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Then what fuck are you guys arguing about?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            If you haven't yet realized this is trolls trolling trolls, then I don't know what to tell you. We're all just having fun here.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Neither are in the game. Portal's physics can't tolerate a stationary object transiting a portal. The portal may as well not exist.

            Let me rephrase that, I know that portals can't move in the game. But you made it sound like the entire hypothetical doesn't make sense. I shouldn't have said "Which one is in the game?", that probably misled you.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Left is also acceptable by B. Moving the entrance and the exit in the exact same way results in nothing shooting out.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They literally work by the same rules

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          But that's wrong, both of those hoop examples support B.

          [...]
          What force stops the object that is emerging from the portal?

          How does left support B? The whole point of the picture is that it is saying that A views the portals as a singular hula hoop, but b views them as seperate objects.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        But that's wrong, both of those hoop examples support B.

        And so is the platform, but then they stop moving relative to each other. Therefore the cube on the platform also stops.
        >but it's through the portal!
        It's also still on the platform.

        What force stops the object that is emerging from the portal?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          What force keeps it going when the piston stops?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            No force is necessary to "keep it going," that's basic conservation of momentum. Its existing momentum relative to the diagonal platform continues until something stops it.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >Its existing momentum relative to the diagonal platform
              So, none because it's sitting still on the platform?

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Retards cannot understand that “space moving through space” is impossible and wouldn’t have a velocity because it’s self contradictory

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                You're definitely trolling.

                [...]
                How does left support B? The whole point of the picture is that it is saying that A views the portals as a singular hula hoop, but b views them as seperate objects.

                If something emerges from the top of the hula hoop at a rate of 20 m/s, it wouldn't suddenly stop traveling at that speed without some impeding force.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Is it on the platform or not?
                Hint: the Answer is "yes"

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            What force keeps a ball you throw moving after it leaves your hand?

  112. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    so easy to Btfo fAgs, Bros

  113. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    chAds with the hAtrick todAy

  114. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Takes a sheet of paper.
    >Folds it over
    >Sticks a pencil though it.
    Heh, better luck next time Bfags.

  115. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >i-if i post another gif we'll all surely start flying through the air when hulahoops drop on us
    give it up, bfags.
    you lost.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >muh hoop
      see

      That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

      See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

      fAgs lost

  116. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, I've finally accepted reality. After months of these threads, I've given up.

    In the next thread on, I am going to be an A fag and just consistently ignore everything anyone says at me, and just repeat "hoops" and "what force causes it to move".

    You will not be able to stop me.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Good because they are literally magic fucking hula hoops

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >hoop
        see

        That's exactly how back-to-back portals behave under B.

        See https://youtu.be/ao1qVi5Qp3Y?t=122.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >muh mod
          It’s a magic hula hoop

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            behaves just like one under B

  117. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B won

  118. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    A won AgAin

  119. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B wins again

  120. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B! B! B! B!

  121. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is a perfect example of why argumentation is retarded and violence is the only solution to disagreements.

  122. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B won.

  123. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    And the results are in...
    It appears that A stands for Anal Cancer, while B stands for Big Boobies.
    Yes, the awards will be distributed over the following week. Check your mailbox for your cancer diagnosis or pornography as appropriate.

  124. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    hulA chAds win yet AgAin, see you All next threAd

  125. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    A won.
    >b-but
    A won.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't capitilze B-But
      One job.

  126. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    According to B at the halfway point half of the cube is moving relative to itself which is just silly.

  127. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    B won!

  128. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's actually C

  129. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Bros won

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