Even slower than world. Most attacks root you in place without a cancel window for much longer and you can't readjust mid combo with weapons like SNS like you can in the new ones.
World being bad doesn"t make GU good. Reminder that GU was universally shit on until revisionits flipped the script the moment World was announced and suddenly GU was "classic" MH. You will never be classic GUshitters.
MH4 is not "classic." >mounting >lock-on camera >arts >styles >gay vertical level design >RNG gacha mechanics
The 3DS games ruined MH and put it on a path to shit.
What's so easy about Iceborne? Anything you could do in Iceborne you can do even easier in Risebreak. It even has two different forms of the clutchclaw.
IB monsters are slower
IB monsters have worse tracking
Also, the only analogues for CC in SB are mudbeetles and marionette spiders, and I guarantee you most people don't go out of their way to pick those up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>IB monsters are slower
And so are you. >IB monsters have worse tracking
This is actually valid. Doesn't change the fact that Alatreon and Fatalis are harder than anything in Risebreak and LR is an absolute joke compared to World's. HR with Allmother Narwa did mog world though. >I guarantee you most people don't go out of their way to pick those up
Most normies also don't bother using the clutchclaw and mantles or know the clutch claw exists.
IB inherits problems from MHW in that monsters are too slow and they topple very easily and for too long. They tried to fix monsters from being punching bags in IB by massively inflating HP values but it doesn't fucking matter when you can just use the crutch claw to wallbang in between topples to still trip a monster forever. That's why Fatalis is the only good fight in IB.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>im an adhd autistic who cant not be a metachasing youtube video watching dipshit >this is the games fault
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>implying you need to watch youtube vids to trivialize IB
Yes it is the game's fault when almost every monster is geriatric and falls over from a stiff breeze.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's the game's fault that it resolves around gimmicks like claw, wallbangs, etc, yes
Iceborne was a huge downgrade compared to World, which was already pushing it with mantle dogshit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the game is great if you play like shit on purpose
What's so easy about Iceborne? Anything you could do in Iceborne you can do even easier in Risebreak. It even has two different forms of the clutchclaw.
i love world and despise rise, but don't try and say world is harder than Rise.the mantles and lifesteal augment trivialized the game
the only actual hard fight was fatalis
moron Rise has a lifesteal armor skill. When the fuck does Rise get harder than Alatreon? wirebugs trivialized the whole game. I say this as a big fan of it with hundreds of hours btw.
>lifesteal augment
You mean the augment you only get after beating the entire main story and grinding for hours in very specific parts of the guiding land for very specific monster materials? Bold move to claim an end game augment trivializes a game that you’ve essentially already beaten by that point.
I don't use mantles
I don't use clutch claw
I run down the clock occasionally even failing on time
I shouldn't be punished for being better at the game than everyone else
no what makes you do a gorillion damage in world is how all the endgame monsters are weak to nergigante and how nergigante armor gives you a gorillion damage and how all the monsters have no damage in solo
what fucking g rank? they don't even call it that anymore. do you mean clutch claw mode? is that the part of world that's for the real hardcore gamers?
>I don't use mantles
fair >I don't use the clatch claw
sure, still okay >I run down the clock ocasionally failing on time
You are just a fucking terrible player, even without mantles and claw you can easily clear every content at a decent speed. You just use it as an excuse for your retardation.
Depends on what you define as "classic MH", since 4U isn't happening given its Nintendo and anime collabs
And outside of that, they'd likely have to overhaul the hubs to fit modern online standards
its either happening this year or next year for the 20th anniversary. if mh6 ends up releasing early next year theres no chance it happens but theres still hope.
they ported GU in the middle of worlds life cycle so "drawing players away" from the current mh isnt a concern of theirs which for whatever reason seems to be the main argument retards push
Kill wirebugs, behead wirebugs, roundhouse kick a wirebug into the concrete, slam dunk a wirebug egg into the trash can, crucify filthy wirebugs, defecate into a wirebugs mouth, kick a pregnant wirebug with steel toe boots, drop wirebugs into an active volcano, report wirebugs to the IRS, mandatory abortions for wirebugs, slice wirebugs with a katana
Super attacks don't belong in MH and that's why rise and GU are both ass. Switch skills were fine. Obviously clutch claw is ass too, just like wirebugs.
Have any of the series gimmicks been good? And no tribabs, swimming was terrible.
Don't know, don't care. Wake me up when we're discussing MHW2. Otherwise capcoms just pissing in the wind looking for some scrubby money. Do the full game. Proper. You lazy fucking cunts.
>didnt they get nerfed
who cares
i dont want MMO bullshit
going into a raid 40 levels too high doesnt make it not MMO bullshit, it just makes it irrelevant MMO bullshit.
MHW is the only game in the series worth playing, all the games that came before where just prototypes on weak hardware
Hopefully MHR is the last crumb of outdated garbage Capcom throws at nintenpedos before making modern games only
Yeah, you can move while drinking a potion so it's garbage I think. Also not having to stock up on paintballs every quest to keep a monster on your map is for casuals maybe. Although I do kind of miss that mechanic
For a game that probably had half the budget sure, it was never going to hit the same numbers that World did. Hell, I don't even know if MH6 will do as well
>prooves >prooves sir >Sir your prooves??!?
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https://gamingbolt.com/monster-hunter-world-hits-19-million-units-sold-monster-hunter-rise-at-13-2-million
So closer to 70%. And this on half the devices, in half the time, with half the marketing. Rise really is something.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Rise really is something.
Yes, a piece of shit that rode on World's coattails
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
19M isnt counting the one thats base+iceborne, which by any non-retarded metric, you would
because its world. its 22m with that counted.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Just like Rise's numbers there aren't counting Sunbreak, you moron. >worldfetus needs to buff up his numbers with bundles and expansion numbers
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i didnt say iceborne you dumb mother fucker
i said the one that has basegame plus iceborne >No you cant count orange box for HL2 sales because it has ep1!!
you fucking dumbass.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
also, iceborne alone sold 10m
sunbreak sold 6
so world would win then too.
>release a few albums >one goes super mega double platinum >next one goes double platinum >some literal retard calls the second album a "flop" because it didn't happen to do as well as the other, despite still being extremely successful
you're not even human
>star wars comes out >becomes huge cult/pop success >TLJ comes out, ONLY makes a TON of money
lmao star wars is fine the next movie will make billions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>lmao star wars is fine the next movie will make billions
Not anymore with how badly they've fucked everything.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That was the joke friend
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sorry, I had a bad day at work.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
sorry to here that friend, relax with a bit of casual shitstorming
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
buhbuhbuhwuhahwah? but sale good
brand damage not exist!
rise GOOD sales
>Rise >Good >Literally 2min quests without even knowing wtf the new monsters do and never finding out because of killing them in 2min
You really should just have a nice day
>Literally 2min quests without even knowing wtf the new monsters do and never finding out because of killing them in 2min
You just described World, though.
im genuinely surprised how a series with gameplay and controls as bad as MH got to be so big
i understood when the series was a niche game for autists, but there is no explanation for its success
I don't like the control scheme changes between generations to world and rise. I also miss the kick on command, I loved kicking the shit out of the monster with my as soon as we saw it was limping.
I DON'T WANT MORE COMBAT GIMMICKS LIKE KEK CLAW OR CRINGE BUGS!!!
Just fucking give me more new monsters (which aren't Rathalos clones) and fun new maps (which aren't ancient forest tier of spaghetti design) and I'll be happy.
Also keep the Lance moveset from risebreak intact and keep switch skills, keep the dogs but only as transportation.
Not that anon but 3U 2 is what I want.
Underwater is what I want, some monsters work much better underwater and some are exclusive to that environment. I want that back.
4U is still the king of MH, I don't give a shit what 3Utards say. It was also the last great MH game, MHGU merely being "above average". MHW is also "good" but no more than that.
MHFU is overrated but is also so wildly different from subsequent releases it shouldn't even be compared to them.
Lance is the best weapon.
These opinions are true, these opinions are right, you cannot refute them.
>muh content
I wish that word was a bannable offense punishable by death. Also the argument is null because it assumes everybody in the thread already has 400+ hours in every MH game new and old.
We all know it's going to be shown at TGS, and that's about it.
I think it's just going to have the same mechanics as Rise. I'm personally not expecting a lot.
amazing how world and rise have permanently ruined the series
world was aight but the direction shift is truly the worst thing
i look at rise/sb and it doesnt even fucking look like the same franchise
time to replay an old title
World was doomed the moment the rumors started and it exploded when it got officially announced I swear the doomposting about this game was just absurd
That's why i said it was doomed from the start. >rumors pop up >tendies go full smug about how "it won't sell like crazy" >game releases >it's Capcom all time best selling game >tendies go fnuclear >everybody laughs and shit on them for being so utterly wrong and getting karma'd >repeat the back and forth for the next 6 years
I'm still surprised that World was such a success.
I'm someone that doesn't hate World, or Rise for that matter, but it was weird seeing MH become a normalfag franchise.
oh no mad tendiebot mad about him world game no monhun on tendiegamebox
nev evty evs lmao lmao >who could ever possibly be annoyed by this retardation infesting the place
sounds like a you problem~
I'm not warring about anything, that's literally just what happened. When the rumors of MH5 started popping up as being a home console game, you had a shitton of post saying it was fake because it wouldn't sell like crazy. The rest is history.
I swear this whole situation wouldn't have been as bad if some people had managed to stop themselves from acting so smug and delusional.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why are tendies retarded? We just got 4U and generations back to back around that time to enjoy so I don't understand why they would get upset at World. MH did start out on PS2/ PSP afterall
>TENDIES TENDIES TENDIES! ><gets hit with a football>
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
><gets hit with a football>
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i have no idea what this is but im pretty sure the fact that you do makes you a big fag
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You conveniently left out the entire other half of that period when whole MH threads were constantly buried in wojaks and anal vore spam for years.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is well deserved. Nintendo fans were absolutely horrible for Monster Hunter >tons of people who started with the 3DS games and think they are actually good (lmfaooooo) >tons of ecelebs in the same boat >tons of people butthurt about World who got BTFO
Nintendo fans are the problem. The 3DS games introduced mounting, camera lockon, arts, styles, and the general gimmick cancer that has only gotten worse. It was the 3DS games that caused this
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>yes sir we shit in the street sir but the street deserve because fuckin paki is asshole
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Children and poos loved the 3DS games. Actual white men played MHFU
The 3DS games introduced mounting, camera lockon, arts, styles, and the general gimmick cancer that has only gotten worse. It was the 3DS games that caused this
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's OK to ruin threads for half a decade and counting because I hate Nintendo
Nice justification. BTW Nintendo has never made a single MH game so I don't know why you keep bringing them up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You have proven the point. NIntendo fans defend Nintendo, and they can't realize that 4th gen led the series on a decline that MHW briefly recovered from before going down the toilet again with IceClawBorne
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Children and poos loved the 3DS games. Actual white men played MHFU
The 3DS games introduced mounting, camera lockon, arts, styles, and the general gimmick cancer that has only gotten worse. It was the 3DS games that caused this
shouldnt you be doing something besides sperging about ~the evil tendies~
like playing games on your ps5 >oh
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
MHW didn't recover shit. It greatly accelerated the very downfall you keep whining about and blaming on Nintendo(who, again, never made a MH game)
Why are tendies retarded? We just got 4U and generations back to back around that time to enjoy so I don't understand why they would get upset at World. MH did start out on PS2/ PSP afterall
I don't like that in Iceborne and Sunbreak armor set building and planning is so fucking braindead
I didn't like how the launch on PC attracted MMOfags and their fucking obsession with DPS
Clutch claw is shit and worse than wirebugs because the Clutch claw is completely conditional on you hitting the monster with it. And even if you DO hit the monster you can.
A. Thrown off
B. Run out of stamina
Once on you have one of three options.
A. Maneuver around
B. Use a weapon attack to debuff
C. Try and wallbang stun it which will INSTANTLY enrage.
The final option a majority of people DIDN'T use because of how bullshit iceborne's hitbox and motion values were for some monsters where enrage would make them unhittable for an entire minute straight. So it would be less frustrating to just fight it without the claw.
Meanwhile wirebug has zero conditions to using it outside of how many bugs you have up at the time.
You can.
A. Dodge out of the way of a monsters attack
B. Use a wirebug move for mobility or buff
C. Reposition to a higher location
D. Manuever through the map with it.
>prettty unique uses for it. You even acknowledge this in your post. You're dickriding the bigclaw to the point of hyperbole too.
No they don't, on DB's they aren't worth it, on switch axe they aren't worth it, hell the slinger burst is SUPER situational and doesn't use the clutch claw at all. People barely used them over just using the new movesets.
Tenderizing as a mechanic was also just boring due to the bloated stagger/damage values on monsters that made it impossible to stagger them without tenderizing them.
>this literally applies to CC too but you didn't explain specifically why it "doesn't count" or is invalid.
almost 100% of clutch claw attacks are for tenderizing, some weapons don't even have clutch claw combos. So I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, the slinger burst doesn't even count as a combo as you need AMMO to use it either way.
The clutch claw itself was a complete butchering of mounting as a whole why you seem to think it's remotely comparable to a maneuverability mechanic is just pure retardation.
>3ds games
dogshit because of shit hardware and gimmicks >MHW
okay but mantles are pushing it >MHW Iceborne
dogshit, clutch claw gimmick ruins combat >Rise
dogshit gimmicks
ENOUGH with the GIMMICKS and MOUNTING and 3DS and CLUTCH CLAW
We need to go back. but we never will, because most people started with MHW or the Nintendo games. Yes, that means (You) as you reply
*sips monster energy*
These days i just play monster hunter rise, really is a return to form back to the old days, its really like im being ambushed by my first rathalos in 1.
There's 1, maybe 2 posts tops that could be slightly interpreted as nintendo fanboys. Pretty much all the replies in that screencap were the opinions of the general MH fanbase across the board, especially on the heels of the XX Switch announcement.
you just reminded me that capcom massively delayed GU in the west for no reason other than they knew it might make people realize world had almost no content
I don't think that was the case do to how poorly capcom treated GU. Remember, when World was revealed, they announced that they WEREN'T going to localize XX in any form, only to almost completely shadowdrop it over a year later.
I'll happily shit on Ancient forest because that map was awful, but i do have to wonder, would it have been less bad if we had had wirebugs? I feel like Rise's movement could almost have redeemed ancient forest as a map.
Based take. Being able to change your style is fantastic. I love meeting other surge slash chads in the wild.
Also blast dash for GL is tge only way forward.
Based take. Being able to change your style is fantastic. I love meeting other surge slash chads in the wild.
Also blast dash for GL is tge only way forward.
>be parryfag >MHW/iceborne is giant playground >rise comes out >shits all wank, anime, and wirebug gated except longsword >hate weebstick tho fucks sake
pisssssssss >bro just play cb-
GP CB is piss in rise unless youre an elecuck speedrunner idiot that abuses staggers
CBGP in rise is about the same
the problem is nothing else is
the monsters are on crack and the knockback of shit cant be fully negated even with 5 guard+GP+Guardup
so no its not really the same.
lance also has a similar issue(but works around it much better)
also tackle is garbo in rise.
Not even world let you just GP everything for free
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no but what it did do was let you actually followup.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>world let you parry more >the parries you're cumming over exist in rise >uuuuh but sometimes the knockback is a bit much >same as world >well uuuuuh I can't SAED things to death
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2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If anything world CB was completely braindead with how easy monsters were to stagger with diablos CB
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
what games have the least braindead CB?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's right, it's Monster hunter Generations
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
right, i never got into Gen because CB was completely broken
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
yea i didnt use the diablos CB. it was a bit bent.
oh.
i forgot lance.
43% of my playtime is lance in world and i forgot to mention it. >how can you forget lance with that much time put into it
ask the devs
LMAO GOTTEM.
My autistic mhtard friend told me to start with 4U and I actually liked it. I just killed gore magala and you know, that was fun
Does it get better in World/Rise?
Lots of mechanics that were staples of the series since the beginning were changed with the goal of appealing to a wider audience rather than improving the games.
Why would a twitter poll or the opinions of twitter posters matter at all in regards to what we can expect from MH6? Oh that's right, it doesn't. Die. Now.
that's funny
I think I might list those in the exact opposite order, but I did enjoy all of the games very much and I think in-fighting by fans is the stupidest
Maybe it's just nostalgia for Gen talking
I liked rise/sunbreak but it was pretty obviously worse than world. Still fun tho. Take the couple of superior parts about risebreak/4U, and the structure of world, and you'll have a fucking incredible game.
Fucking loved GU, wacky fun styles and a fuckton of monsters to hunt
Fucking loved WorldBorne, comfy pet collection to go along with my hunts
Fucking loved RiseBreak, god tier combat with a near perfect set of mons to hunt
No matter what direction the next game goes in I'm pretty confident I'll enjoy the shit outta it
Sucks to be the rest of you
iceborne was too skill build and itemcentric. between clutch claw and mantles and skill bloat (a problem in gen too) you would spend a lot of the hunt looking for a wallbang/tenderize which is kind of like the natural evolution of spamming the legs or running monsters into specific spots on the map to down them but it became something you had to do every hunt multiple times a hunt. mantles and augments and skill bloat also hard counter the majority of monster gimmicks to the point black veil ballsack just had to ignore your skills. in handhelds the skill system was not geared towards countering monsters for just one hunt because it took a lot of time to get a full armor set. meanwhile in iceborne i would consistently counter the next monsters status effect to make the hunt much easier. some monsters like screeching legiana are very reminicent of old monsters where you either had their counter item or the fight was fucking miserable and they spend half of it out of your attack range. anyways im not even going to try and defend rise since its more of a super hero action game than a nerfed cripple hunter (muh deliberate actions) game like iceborne and previous titles.
the more barebones games like generations where something as simple as counting a stagger threshold and saving it for when a monster uses a super strong attack or leaves the enrage state was considered a high level strategy. chaining traps to target a monsters problematic parts was something epic in handheld but now the game has advanced way beyond those being learned habits. something like staying a certain distance from a monster to trigger longer attack animations or forcing them to rotate and burn enrage timer is pointless because you can just have constant dps and rely on Iframes or counters to make up for your positioning. those skills almost entirely vanished from me when i played sun break and going back to 4u made me realize how dogshit i am at monster hunter.
Regular MH >Find Monster >Try to sneak attack him >have a regular fight where you learn his patterns and dodge then attack
Iceborne >Bugs show you exactly where the monster is >Go to monster riding a little lizard >CLUTCH CLAW >INTO THE WALL >BANG BANG HUNGA BUNGA >CLUTCH CLAW INTO THE WALL >BANG BANG
I mean, there is MH guaranteed already, its even announced publicly, but its probably not MH you would want/expect. Its literally pokemon go but MH which is usual goofy jap thing
>People talk about Mon Hun and I bring up a fight pre World/Iceborne >Get looked at like I'm a retard who just raped their parents >Rise manages to suck even harder >This few people played XX
Fuck it, I'm old I guess. Time to put another few hundred hours in an older one.
4U didn't jump the shark by introducing super ninja ching chong moves and fighter jet dragonmon. GenGU toddlers really need to stop riding on 4U's coattails. You gays are as cancerous as RiseBreak sperms.
passed on Sunbreak when I saw the graphics lol. Let me know when Monster Hunter wants to come back to being a serious game not just a little nincel toy
Rise was the worst thing to happen to MH's fandom literally just because of how it brought out you obnoxious hypocrites that are willing to forgive literally everything criticized in World because it's not the cool thing to hate like World is. I hope all you worthless contrarians contract incurable ailments.
Always reminds me of that pic with the nintendo fanboy and list of monhun game and he says world is not "real mobster hunter" and then below there's rise and he's like "b-but you know, not everything was bad in world"
I don't even think it's a console war thing. It's literally just because World was the normalfag bait MH. World could have been on Switch and people would have been just as disingenuous with shitting on it.
The worst thing is that it's fairly certain that even in 10 years, after x amount of new monhuns, people here will still shit on world because of that.
I liled world for the most parts. I liked rise for the most parts. But I only played generation ultimate before those two, so maybe I don't know better or something (don't care tbqh)
5 bucks says some of the people seething about IB to this day are still just butthurt that Alatreon ruined their raw and blast meta by forcing them to actually acknowledge the concept of bringing the right element for the job.
the existence of wirefall made it virtually impossible to design a fight as difficult as the hardest fights from previous games. it's one of the most glaring designs faults from that game
>It just didn't have some silly "spectacle" designed to excite people into a frenzy
I don't know what game you played but it sure as shit wasn't Sunbreak.
This entire fight was literally nothing but a spectacle. Because you're a single digit IQ retard I'll break it down for you. Alatreon and Fatalis HAD spectacle but they were still mechanically engaging fights. Amatsu was nothing BUT spectacle. No difficulty. No engaging mechanics. Literally nothing but flashy effects and epic montage moments. It failed because unlike Alatreon and Fatalis. It wasn't as fun of a fight.
No it wasn't great. It was good. Which makes it a let down compared to either Alatreon or Fatalis. It't even close. Hence my disappointment since it is the last boss of Sunbreak. Those 2 fights are amazing in both presentation and mechanics and are some of the best fights in the whole series. Amatsu nails the presentation sure but it's underwhelming as a fight. Though the quality of the fight here is irrelevant. You're deflecting really fucking hard here. The point is your post here
SB did have good end fights. It just didn't have some silly "spectacle" designed to excite people into a frenzy like IB alatreon and fatalis.
is full of shit and I honestly doubt you've even played either game it was so stupid a thing to say. Genuinely embarrassing post.
My post was largely that it did have good end fights, especially thanks to every monster being scaled for endgame, but hey if you only want to farm alatreon and fatalis forever that's your prerogative.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It just didn't have some silly "spectacle" designed to excite people
No fuck off. You can't goalpost move that one you prick. You said it didn't have those kind of fights which is an objectively false statement. Take the loss and fuck off cause you got called on your bullshit you shitposting gay. No point trying to save face now after your lie got exposed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You never responded to the half of the post that mattered. Why is that, shitposter?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
If half of your entire post is a blatant lie then the half that is "true" is worthless becuase it's only a truth looked at through a crooked lens. One lie and your entire post is rendered pointless because you expose that you never said it in good faith in the first place. Cope shitposter. Next time don't word your post like a shitpost and maybe it would be possible to take your stupid ass seriously.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>words his post like a shitflinging ape >complains that his opinion gets discarded like a shitflinging ape
The fact that I genuinely can't tell if you worded it like that intentionally or if it was just a subconscious decision says a lot about how poisoned the well of MH discussion is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
lol been here
here's my upcoming psychosis tip: treat it like it's fun and it will be
you'll still go sorta nuts but in a fun way
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but hey if you only want to farm alatreon and fatalis forever that's your prerogative.
Just gonna ignore furious rajang and raging brachy? Both of those were great fights, brachy in particular. Did it have a hype spectacle? Sure, at the very last third of its health where said spectacle was designed to lock you into the fight until you fainted or it died. Compare that to amatsu who’s basically the safi’jiiva of rise in terms of just disrupting the fight with the ooga booga do this gimmick or die nuke. I say safi and not fatty because unlike fatty who also has that, amatsu doesn’t have the decency to back that spectacle by being a fun and challenging fight on top of having a flashy attack.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sure, but I'm still having a blast punching out anomalies and dealing with most of the roster still being fantastic fights even in the endgame. IMO saying SB has no good endgame fights is disingenuous as fuck because it's akin to saying the game's entire roster is shit >but what about guiding lands, then?
Also a good time, but MHW's weaker roster doesn't help it in that regard. I honestly feel that the spectacle monsters are so much more necessary in IB because the supporting roster is so weak.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When are they going to just stop being cucks and give us a mon hun with proper mod support or pull a nindy and make a version where they just add in all mons
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I’m not the anon that said sb had no good endgame though. That aside anomalies aren’t exactly what I’d consider good seeing as they’re basically just frenzied/apex/tempered monsters with a tacked on mechanic. Fighting the same monsters with bloated health bars got tired years ago. Almost as tired as Capcom deciding new subspecies should just be “the exact same monster but now it has fire”
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Subspecies in Sunbreak don't fight much like their original counterparts at all though and are much more than the recolours with a different element and a new attack slapped on that we've seen for god knows how long.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Magmuldron and rakna but red and with more fire died so quickly for me that I didn’t get a chance to see anything new.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA but when I saw that Sunbreak had Rarity 10 weapons for every monsters I immediately got the impression they were going to try a more "horizontal" endgame and was thrilled when I saw they went through with it. It was great to finally have a game in which every monster was relevant at the high end because of how anomaly materials were distributed instead of fighting a handful ad nauseam.
Augmentations are contentious but they really encouraged me to experiment more with my gearsets and work within my means. I ended up crafting a lot of the same pieces of equipment simply because I'd get a good augment on them that was worth holding onto.
>IB Alatreon is a fantastic fight >when it's objectively easier than is previous iteration
By your definition IB Alatreon is too just a spectacle and nothing more. >muh mecanic
You can literally ignore it and bruteforce it.
Only fatty was an actual upgrade and added more.
Why the fuck do people like World, man? Like I don't fucking get it. It does so much shit infuriatingly worse than any other entry and ITS the one that gets the mainstream attention?
Unironically just World 2.
Take World, make roster bigger and way more varied, add underwater and dark caves, weather system and more interactable maps, and a good online hub like Tri but bigger.
>MH is one of the most well-taken care of franchises in all of gaming >this shitty board is only interested in endlessly flinging shit at the 2 most recent AND most successful games
Yeah I'm fucking done
I would say nothing akin to what we see today as someone who begrudgingly got a wii just for tri. Community still discussed the games based on their merits instead of having some weird tribal war over consoles.
Honestly I can't even imagine how huge MH6 is going to be >MHW but bigger and better in every way >way more budget and dev time >giant fanbase already established >an actual properly planned post-launch support, unlike World, and probably bigger than IB and SB >releasing pc/xbox/ps day one with crossplay >if Switch 2 rumors are true, very likely to be ported there too >first fully next-gen Capcom game >one of the first truly major AAA games only next-gen >in a moment where people are starving for new multiplayer and especially coop experiences
This shit is gonna dwarf even World in terms of success. The long term sales during the whole generation are going to be insane
You just regurgitate everything you see on here, 4r was overall great and improved on most of the tiny issues og had, both are still great games. As far as 3 it's campaign length is almost identical to og re3 and the gameplay was fine.
Not an argument, the issue with the game wasn't gameplay but same level of replayability as other REs when it came to added difficulty and modes. Prob because capcom was desperately diverting dev attention to the shitty DbD clone
You just regurgitate everything you see on here, 4r was overall great and improved on most of the tiny issues og had, both are still great games. As far as 3 it's campaign length is almost identical to og re3 and the gameplay was fine.
>FU fags hate 3rd gen onwards for not being FU >4U fags hate 3U cause water >World and Rise fags hate old gen casue zoomer >3U fags hate 4U for bad maps/balance/endgame
Don't know who you are referring to but they sound retarded, started with mhfu and would argue 4U might be peak of the series, 3U fixed nearly all the problems with tri and played the fuck out of both of these in Tokyo. None of the shitflinging honestly started until world and rise, the problem is always letting too many normies in.
Absolutely fucking criminal they didn't bring him back for world or rise with the added vertical movement of all the bosses that could take advantage of this.
I'm hoping for MHWorld 2
Wirebug was an interesting try at a mechanic but I think it should stay there like tri's underwater combat or Generation's Valor style
>World 2 or at least in the style of world >keep SB's weapon moveset changes and switch skills plus new ones, perhaps make some that felt like direct upgrades like kinsect slash and shield tackle the default >arts stay but they have a proper meter you have to fill like gen >everything else related to wirebug/rampages gone >palamutes gone >tenderizing/CC gone, maybe do something else with the slinger >areas from world return with some new sections plus 2-3 new areas >make the main village also the hub like SB >perhaps its time we get a new weapon type or 2 if I'm being really greedy >put in valor GL somehow
People can argue about the games all they like but the truth of the matter is the only good games of the series were MHFU-4U, everything else is mediocre to garbage.
People have always been arguing whether the Portable or mainline games were better. It even included console wars as far back as Tri. This is nothing new. The only new thing is you.
>peer into thread >first 1/3 is "World and Iceborne have these specific issues with combat" >literally any criticism is barked at by constantly calling people retards, even if they're die hard World fans like them
Do I even need to go further into this thread? World/Iceborne somehow became a game people simultaneously masturbate over while berating EACH OTHER despite enjoying the exact same game. Rise players get along better than this, hell games prior to World had players getting along more harmoniously. Be it here or social media, World always seems to cause the biggest arguments and literally half of it is people defending it to the absolute limit and not taking any sort of critique of the numerous problems the game has.
Get over it, guys. World/Iceborne was good, but it's not great. Not even close.
Anyone know if you have to buy the expansion/DLC's to play co-op? that's the only thing holding me back buying any of the MH games right now since it's currently on sale.
Base game can play with people that own the expansion in base game content. You get all of the QoL the expansion brought, but none of the exclusive content.
Keep in mind that expansion content is a tier above the base game content.
So any co-op you'd get in the base game would be people similar to you, or people that are overgeared and wound up in your co-op session
my biggest issue with 5th gen is this fucking mmo title update shit they've got going on. just release the fucking game and call it a day. MAYBE add 1 or 2 new monsters but thats it, title update shit just causes fomo and completely kills all sense of progression, not to mention literal mmo design philosophy where new gear almost always (keyword here almost) outclasses old gear. sunbreak actually did it better with iceborne but it got monkey pawed with new charms and adding more skills to the qurio crafting gacha bullshit.
>asking westoids which MH is better
Daily reminder if someone is defending World in english there is a greater than a 90% chance world was their first MH
same, my first mh was FU and I prefer World over those other 2, the combat felt just right and satisfying
I would get rid of mantles and ofc clutch claw
Personally i'm fine if CC is just way to attached hunter into monster.
Sort of nerf'd wired bug, but giving them wall bang and tenderizer is way to much and they have to band aid it with bloated HP and Shitzone.
The beefed up investigation Shaggy is more threatening when it actually goes Risen.
Behemoth is a slow hunk of shit for half the fight and the real difficulty is the clock. Only worth a damn in phase 3 and 4, but the area you fight the thing becomes dogshit since you either have to deal with lave explosions or falling ceiling crystals
Am I the only one really bothered by the fact that Rathalos in world telegraphs his tail swipes for 2 seconds?
He didn't do this in earlier games and it bugs me because it makes him so much easier
All the world monsters are generally slower than their old gen counterparts. In a way its a good thing that instant charges are gone. But they became massive pushovers as a result.
A TCS to the legs of these chicken skeletons is pretty much a guaranteed trip too which I really disliked.
That just goes to show that nobody played GU. Shame because it was the last good MH.
No. Lack of options is what shows. MHW is closer to regular MH than any listed.
>MHW is closer to regular MH than any listed
>guild style with no HA
As expected
if u don't use flashboms and take your armor off its just like the old ones!
Let's not try to downplay flash bombs in the older games holy fuck they were good in mhfu
>guild style with no HA
AKA
monster hunter on ps2
dos
freedom, freedom 2, freedom unite
tri, 3U, P3rd
4U
and also, world
>and, also world
>HA moves added the regular moveset with no cost
fuck no
>I started playing with World
>World is the best
Retard
You're right, but nintentoddlers hate it
delicious cope
>The easiest MH made for retarded children is the best
This only tells something about you
Desperate for attention today huh.
Thats Rise and World gay.
I didnt play GU, is it in the style of MHW? Rise feels too fast and wacky for me
GU is in the style of old monhun. World and Rise are really nothing like old monhun, but they are different from each other as well.
Is old monhun generally slow like MHW or generally fast and counter based like rise?
Even slower than world. Most attacks root you in place without a cancel window for much longer and you can't readjust mid combo with weapons like SNS like you can in the new ones.
thats based, I'm going to have to check some of them out then
That's a great attitude to have in this mostly shitflingy thread. Hope you enjoy them
I beat it while waiting for Rise, World was better.
World being bad doesn"t make GU good. Reminder that GU was universally shit on until revisionits flipped the script the moment World was announced and suddenly GU was "classic" MH. You will never be classic GUshitters.
>GU was universally shit on
FU fags on Ganker are hardly people
based af. tri and gu are peak mh
lol fuck off, MH4 was the last true good classic MH. GU is the Rise/Sunbreak of classic mh
MH4 is not "classic."
>mounting
>lock-on camera
>arts
>styles
>gay vertical level design
>RNG gacha mechanics
The 3DS games ruined MH and put it on a path to shit.
>nintendo 3ds bab saying MH4 is "classic"
MHFU is as far as you can go for classic
Swimming because Tri was the best one. Wii nunchuck was also the best way to play this series.
Man, old Monster Hunter is never coming back, huh.
nope enjoy your clutch wire in monster hunter universe
I downloaded that IB mod that rebalanced shit so you don't need the CC and forgot about it, what a fucking terrible idea.
thankfully
Luckily
we only got 34 games bros
>most popular game gets the most votes
Color me surprised
>easiest game gets the most votes
fixed
Sunbreak is easier than Iceborne you fucking mong. Classictrannies proving they don't even play the new entries they whine about all day every day.
bro lol iceborne is easy
its just slow bullshit
shit takes forever its all fuckin stupid
rise is closer to real MH
What's so easy about Iceborne? Anything you could do in Iceborne you can do even easier in Risebreak. It even has two different forms of the clutchclaw.
IB monsters are slower
IB monsters have worse tracking
Also, the only analogues for CC in SB are mudbeetles and marionette spiders, and I guarantee you most people don't go out of their way to pick those up.
>IB monsters are slower
And so are you.
>IB monsters have worse tracking
This is actually valid. Doesn't change the fact that Alatreon and Fatalis are harder than anything in Risebreak and LR is an absolute joke compared to World's. HR with Allmother Narwa did mog world though.
>I guarantee you most people don't go out of their way to pick those up
Most normies also don't bother using the clutchclaw and mantles or know the clutch claw exists.
>And so are you.
Actually, no, you aren't
IB inherits problems from MHW in that monsters are too slow and they topple very easily and for too long. They tried to fix monsters from being punching bags in IB by massively inflating HP values but it doesn't fucking matter when you can just use the crutch claw to wallbang in between topples to still trip a monster forever. That's why Fatalis is the only good fight in IB.
>im an adhd autistic who cant not be a metachasing youtube video watching dipshit
>this is the games fault
>implying you need to watch youtube vids to trivialize IB
Yes it is the game's fault when almost every monster is geriatric and falls over from a stiff breeze.
It's the game's fault that it resolves around gimmicks like claw, wallbangs, etc, yes
Iceborne was a huge downgrade compared to World, which was already pushing it with mantle dogshit.
>the game is great if you play like shit on purpose
i love world and despise rise, but don't try and say world is harder than Rise.the mantles and lifesteal augment trivialized the game
the only actual hard fight was fatalis
moron Rise has a lifesteal armor skill. When the fuck does Rise get harder than Alatreon? wirebugs trivialized the whole game. I say this as a big fan of it with hundreds of hours btw.
>moron Rise has a lifesteal armor skill.
Admittedly yes, but a particularly situational one.
Did you actually play either game? You really come across as someone who has no idea what he's talking about
>lifesteal augment
You mean the augment you only get after beating the entire main story and grinding for hours in very specific parts of the guiding land for very specific monster materials? Bold move to claim an end game augment trivializes a game that you’ve essentially already beaten by that point.
The fact I got so under your skin is irrelevant of your opinion. FUCKIN LEL CRY HARDER
Sumbreak is easily more difficult. The only way you would ever find Iceborne more difficult is if it was your first MH game.
sunbreak was piss easy what the fuck are you on about? they couldnt even make amatsu into a difficult fight
I still find GU and SB to have infinitely better combat than IB and Ganker's raging hateboner for both of those games can't stop me.
I mean, you're not wrong if you're playing IB without the ICE mod
Oh? Does the ICE mod fix the monsters being slow as fuck and having shit tracking on their attacks?
Maybe actually? It was a long ass list of shit and I only really cared about rebalancing damage values to make the clutch claw irrelevant.
>need a mod to make the game playable
since when is monster hunter a bethesda game
I don't use mantles
I don't use clutch claw
I run down the clock occasionally even failing on time
I shouldn't be punished for being better at the game than everyone else
Same, fuck MHR gimmicks, I just want to hit the monster
youre being punished for being a thickheaded retard
>I run down the clock occasionally even failing on time
HAHAHAHAHHA
man the gimmicks are shit, monster hunter is so shit now
>I'm better because I can't hunt
pressing a button to ignore the monster for 90 seconds of your 90 second fight is not hunting
>he has world record times AND somehow unnerfed mantles!
we're all in awe of your l33t sk1ttlz
>mantles suddenly make you do a gorillion damage
based retard
no what makes you do a gorillion damage in world is how all the endgame monsters are weak to nergigante and how nergigante armor gives you a gorillion damage and how all the monsters have no damage in solo
>he thinks pre-G-rank is endgame
what fucking g rank? they don't even call it that anymore. do you mean clutch claw mode? is that the part of world that's for the real hardcore gamers?
he's bleeding, making him the victor
>I don't use mantles
fair
>I don't use the clatch claw
sure, still okay
>I run down the clock ocasionally failing on time
You are just a fucking terrible player, even without mantles and claw you can easily clear every content at a decent speed. You just use it as an excuse for your retardation.
If you’re not using the clutch claw you’re griefing yourself
Which is precisely why iceborne is ass. Sun breaks gimmick wasn’t so blantently broken that they had to buff monsters hp between the two
What are the odds of a classic MH collection being released for modern platforms? Capcom could easily sell over a million copies.
Depends on what you define as "classic MH", since 4U isn't happening given its Nintendo and anime collabs
And outside of that, they'd likely have to overhaul the hubs to fit modern online standards
So... possible, but nowhere near probable
The collabs wouldn't stop them, they've resigned colab weapons in the past when older games got localized for NA
What like Monster Hunter Generations Ultimate Minus Edition?
Less than zero.
Just emulate them you retard you can play most of them online.
its either happening this year or next year for the 20th anniversary. if mh6 ends up releasing early next year theres no chance it happens but theres still hope.
they ported GU in the middle of worlds life cycle so "drawing players away" from the current mh isnt a concern of theirs which for whatever reason seems to be the main argument retards push
>clatch claw as something good.
Fucking tourists
i really enjoyed rise and sunbreak
Kill wirebugs, behead wirebugs, roundhouse kick a wirebug into the concrete, slam dunk a wirebug egg into the trash can, crucify filthy wirebugs, defecate into a wirebugs mouth, kick a pregnant wirebug with steel toe boots, drop wirebugs into an active volcano, report wirebugs to the IRS, mandatory abortions for wirebugs, slice wirebugs with a katana
Enjoy using them to traverse the massive sprawling biomes in MH6 for the PS5/X4/PC
Super attacks don't belong in MH and that's why rise and GU are both ass. Switch skills were fine. Obviously clutch claw is ass too, just like wirebugs.
Have any of the series gimmicks been good? And no tribabs, swimming was terrible.
You started on world, now you call tri "tribabs" cause you want to fit in.
have a nice day chud freak
Hopes? A good fuckin game.
Expectations? Open world garbage.
Don't know, don't care. Wake me up when we're discussing MHW2. Otherwise capcoms just pissing in the wind looking for some scrubby money. Do the full game. Proper. You lazy fucking cunts.
>Wake me up when we're discussing MHW2
So don't wake you up ever?
Ideally
would be pretty funny if Capcom just does a segment for MHNow and there's nothing else for MH.
Mobile CHADS.
We eating good.
idk what would cause more asshurt, that or MH6 being announced for a Nintendo platform.
>world 2 incoming
fuck yes
time for 90% of a great fuckin game capped by MMO garbage that ill ignore
>MMO garbage
You talking about Latty and Fatty? Didn't they get nerfed into you didn't win tier after a while?
>didnt they get nerfed
who cares
i dont want MMO bullshit
going into a raid 40 levels too high doesnt make it not MMO bullshit, it just makes it irrelevant MMO bullshit.
What about fatty or ala is even mmo like?
The mmo shit was behemoth. God I hope they never do something like that again.
Well behemoth is a crossover from an mmo so it makes sense that it was mmo like but yeah it sucked.
I assumed you called them raids cuz they had DPS checks and instant wipe mechanics but you've lost me with this 40 levels higher than you shit.
>worldbabs literally cant remember past the absolute last thing
are we pretending the sieges didnt exist
and werent fucking garbage?
Sieges were fine with frien-
Oh...
i have friends
they hate sieges too
Well you all sound like fags so I'm happy you found love.
Sieges have been a part of monster hunter since mh1 risesperm.
And a 4 player siege does not qualify for MMO shit as far as I'm concerned.
>lobbywide progress bars have always been a thing!
how about you grab 3 of your friends and see how many attempts it takes for you to suck me off.
Can I watch?
>lobbywide progress bars have always been a thing!
At least since FU.
>a freedom fag
now it makes sense.
I take it you forgot how Fatalis used to work?
>lobbywide progress bars have always been a thing!
You mean like Fatalis progression in MH1? then yes, literally always.
more casual shittery. might skip it this time around.
If you didn't skip rise you already lost
MHW is the only game in the series worth playing, all the games that came before where just prototypes on weak hardware
Hopefully MHR is the last crumb of outdated garbage Capcom throws at nintenpedos before making modern games only
world babbies are so fucking annoying holy shit
People are still mad about world?
Yeah, you can move while drinking a potion so it's garbage I think. Also not having to stock up on paintballs every quest to keep a monster on your map is for casuals maybe. Although I do kind of miss that mechanic
it was and is the most popular monster hunter game of all time and since Rise flopped people are still seething
Shit, if Rise was a flop, then what does that make the entire franchise up through gen 4?
>the second bestselling Capcom game of all time is a flop
>50% dropoff is fine
For a game that probably had half the budget sure, it was never going to hit the same numbers that World did. Hell, I don't even know if MH6 will do as well
Gonna need some proof on that percentage.
>steam numbers for a Switch game
lmao
use google gay
https://gamingbolt.com/monster-hunter-world-hits-19-million-units-sold-monster-hunter-rise-at-13-2-million
So closer to 70%. And this on half the devices, in half the time, with half the marketing. Rise really is something.
>Rise really is something.
Yes, a piece of shit that rode on World's coattails
19M isnt counting the one thats base+iceborne, which by any non-retarded metric, you would
because its world. its 22m with that counted.
Just like Rise's numbers there aren't counting Sunbreak, you moron.
>worldfetus needs to buff up his numbers with bundles and expansion numbers
i didnt say iceborne you dumb mother fucker
i said the one that has basegame plus iceborne
>No you cant count orange box for HL2 sales because it has ep1!!
you fucking dumbass.
also, iceborne alone sold 10m
sunbreak sold 6
so world would win then too.
>prooves
>prooves sir
>Sir your prooves??!?
duckduckgofuckinglookitupyourself dot com
>make unsubstantiated obvious bullshit claim
>UH, IT CAME TO ME IN A DREAM!!!!
LMAO
people bought it because World established the name
>50% drop on sales from previous title
>release a few albums
>one goes super mega double platinum
>next one goes double platinum
>some literal retard calls the second album a "flop" because it didn't happen to do as well as the other, despite still being extremely successful
you're not even human
>star wars comes out
>becomes huge cult/pop success
>TLJ comes out, ONLY makes a TON of money
lmao star wars is fine the next movie will make billions.
>lmao star wars is fine the next movie will make billions
Not anymore with how badly they've fucked everything.
That was the joke friend
Sorry, I had a bad day at work.
sorry to here that friend, relax with a bit of casual shitstorming
buhbuhbuhwuhahwah? but sale good
brand damage not exist!
rise GOOD sales
You're talking to a board full of users where sales is the only reason they wake up every day.
It's just bizarre since it still did super well sales-wise.
You have no idea what a flop is you buzzword spewing gay. God this fanbase is so fucking terrible.
World is a flop compared to Genshin Impact
CHECKUUUUUUH MATE
Ganker posters are not people, theyre beasts barely clad in human skin
World was good
Whatever they can to never replicate rise.
Yeah, we'd hate for MH to have a good game ever again.
Yeah i totally want a bad game.
>Rise
>Good
>Literally 2min quests without even knowing wtf the new monsters do and never finding out because of killing them in 2min
You really should just have a nice day
Damn, speedrunner chad
You should upload your time, you most likely have WR
>Speedrunner
>Not a speedrun but a challenge run
>Still 3 min for the "hardest" monster
You really should have a nice day
wtf I was praising your for your gamer skills.
>Not a speedrun but a challenge run
Those are the TAwiki speedrun rules you clueless retard.
>Literally 2min quests without even knowing wtf the new monsters do and never finding out because of killing them in 2min
You just described World, though.
I'm so glad Rise is over.
im genuinely surprised how a series with gameplay and controls as bad as MH got to be so big
i understood when the series was a niche game for autists, but there is no explanation for its success
Desperate for attention today huh.
This was me playing the Wii one
I still think I'm right
Plus c'est change...
>this one retarded DERK SERLS VET HERE shitter invalidates everything else
there are people in this very thread who think that.
like clockwork
We've now reached the portion of the Monster Hunter thread where people pretend they played MH1 and MH2
Let's watch.
prophetic.
i played MH1 and promptly dropped because it was a piece of shit and i was scared by rathalos
Iceblunder fucking ruined World. Base World had the most based combat because there ewas not Crutch Claw and the shitty cancer it brought with it.
>optimal hunting DPS is spamming anime moves as often as possible
make it stop
MAKE IT STOP
>optimal dps is spamming the same combo over and over
maybe monster hunter isn't for you
I'd rather use combos reactively than just do the one-button supermove over and over again
no you wouldn't you don't even play these games
Shutup and eat your dango, apollo.
Hopefully it's more like frontier and yes frontier has the best feeling combat in the series second would be sunbreak or Gu
>asking a question like this when Worldbabs outnumber classic players 100 to 1
How do these people have zero awareness
there are no classic games in the picture.
4u was the last classic game.
I don't like the control scheme changes between generations to world and rise. I also miss the kick on command, I loved kicking the shit out of the monster with my as soon as we saw it was limping.
LMAO Wtf is wrong with rise?
I'd like to ask the same about world.
TA chud autism, normal players never play like that.
I DON'T WANT MORE COMBAT GIMMICKS LIKE KEK CLAW OR CRINGE BUGS!!!
Just fucking give me more new monsters (which aren't Rathalos clones) and fun new maps (which aren't ancient forest tier of spaghetti design) and I'll be happy.
Also keep the Lance moveset from risebreak intact and keep switch skills, keep the dogs but only as transportation.
All i want is 3U 2.
you don't want 3U 2, you just want to experience monster hunter for the first time ago fucking tribab
Not that anon but 3U 2 is what I want.
Underwater is what I want, some monsters work much better underwater and some are exclusive to that environment. I want that back.
But i started with world.
>Tri 2
Ftfy. 3U was ruined by all the nerfs they carried over from P3rd
True. It also removed the good swimming controls for no reason.
4U is still the king of MH, I don't give a shit what 3Utards say. It was also the last great MH game, MHGU merely being "above average". MHW is also "good" but no more than that.
MHFU is overrated but is also so wildly different from subsequent releases it shouldn't even be compared to them.
Lance is the best weapon.
These opinions are true, these opinions are right, you cannot refute them.
>4U is still the king of MH
Yeah,, I too love Rajang Hunter 4 Primate edition
Swimng!!!!
My expectations are that I'm not going to want to buy it despite loving every gen besides 5th
Thanks anon, that's the most fucking depressing thing I've read on this board in years.
>MH thread
>it's another risesperms vs worlbab shitflinging contest
It's so fucking tiresome.
It's only going to get worse.
The whole point of the OP was to incite more infighting. What did you expect?
Heh, leave Monster Hunter to me
We don't need to add mobile garbage to this shitshow, please.
We'll you're not gonna get your typical "What are ya hunting?" threads since the answer is fucking nothing cuz there's no new content for now.
>muh content
I wish that word was a bannable offense punishable by death. Also the argument is null because it assumes everybody in the thread already has 400+ hours in every MH game new and old.
>it assumes everybody in the thread already has 400+ hours in every MH game new and old.
You don't? The fuck are you doing here then?
>400+ hours
>he doesnt
leave.
true, Rise killed monster hunter
It's fun that Rise also had a bunch of shitty mantle like mechanics like wirebugs and HBG shield crouch shot so we can have these shitflinging threads
>comparing wirebug to evade everything for 4 years mantle win fight for me babygame cheatmode garbage babyworld dumb bad poopy
DID YOU JUST IMPLY THAT POOPY BUTTS SHIT POOPY? FUCKING MORON
Literally who?
We all know it's going to be shown at TGS, and that's about it.
I think it's just going to have the same mechanics as Rise. I'm personally not expecting a lot.
amazing how world and rise have permanently ruined the series
world was aight but the direction shift is truly the worst thing
i look at rise/sb and it doesnt even fucking look like the same franchise
time to replay an old title
World was doomed the moment the rumors started and it exploded when it got officially announced I swear the doomposting about this game was just absurd
I'd say the smugposting after announcement/release and through its whole lifespan was infinitely more damaging.
That's why i said it was doomed from the start.
>rumors pop up
>tendies go full smug about how "it won't sell like crazy"
>game releases
>it's Capcom all time best selling game
>tendies go fnuclear
>everybody laughs and shit on them for being so utterly wrong and getting karma'd
>repeat the back and forth for the next 6 years
I'm still surprised that World was such a success.
I'm someone that doesn't hate World, or Rise for that matter, but it was weird seeing MH become a normalfag franchise.
Everyone who knew the series history was surprised, especially capcom themselves.
Strange, why did the tendies flood all MH threads with Sony goldfaces, anal vore, "bing bing", and "NEVER EVER TENDIES" for years?
You are part of the problem retard. No one likes a consolewarrior baby.
oh no mad tendiebot mad about him world game no monhun on tendiegamebox
nev evty evs lmao lmao
>who could ever possibly be annoyed by this retardation infesting the place
sounds like a you problem~
I'm not warring about anything, that's literally just what happened. When the rumors of MH5 started popping up as being a home console game, you had a shitton of post saying it was fake because it wouldn't sell like crazy. The rest is history.
I swear this whole situation wouldn't have been as bad if some people had managed to stop themselves from acting so smug and delusional.
>TENDIES TENDIES TENDIES!
><gets hit with a football>
><gets hit with a football>
i have no idea what this is but im pretty sure the fact that you do makes you a big fag
You conveniently left out the entire other half of that period when whole MH threads were constantly buried in wojaks and anal vore spam for years.
This is well deserved. Nintendo fans were absolutely horrible for Monster Hunter
>tons of people who started with the 3DS games and think they are actually good (lmfaooooo)
>tons of ecelebs in the same boat
>tons of people butthurt about World who got BTFO
Nintendo fans are the problem. The 3DS games introduced mounting, camera lockon, arts, styles, and the general gimmick cancer that has only gotten worse. It was the 3DS games that caused this
>yes sir we shit in the street sir but the street deserve because fuckin paki is asshole
Children and poos loved the 3DS games. Actual white men played MHFU
The 3DS games introduced mounting, camera lockon, arts, styles, and the general gimmick cancer that has only gotten worse. It was the 3DS games that caused this
>It's OK to ruin threads for half a decade and counting because I hate Nintendo
Nice justification. BTW Nintendo has never made a single MH game so I don't know why you keep bringing them up.
You have proven the point. NIntendo fans defend Nintendo, and they can't realize that 4th gen led the series on a decline that MHW briefly recovered from before going down the toilet again with IceClawBorne
shouldnt you be doing something besides sperging about ~the evil tendies~
like playing games on your ps5
>oh
MHW didn't recover shit. It greatly accelerated the very downfall you keep whining about and blaming on Nintendo(who, again, never made a MH game)
Why are tendies retarded? We just got 4U and generations back to back around that time to enjoy so I don't understand why they would get upset at World. MH did start out on PS2/ PSP afterall
I blame the list posting and XX webm spamming fag for making any MH thread into schizo infested shithole.
I don't like that in Iceborne and Sunbreak armor set building and planning is so fucking braindead
I didn't like how the launch on PC attracted MMOfags and their fucking obsession with DPS
*ahem*
World cucks can go suck a nergigante dick.
Where was that one schizo post about why clutch claws are bad, it was a really good post.
Today I will remind them
Clutch claw is shit and worse than wirebugs because the Clutch claw is completely conditional on you hitting the monster with it. And even if you DO hit the monster you can.
A. Thrown off
B. Run out of stamina
Once on you have one of three options.
A. Maneuver around
B. Use a weapon attack to debuff
C. Try and wallbang stun it which will INSTANTLY enrage.
The final option a majority of people DIDN'T use because of how bullshit iceborne's hitbox and motion values were for some monsters where enrage would make them unhittable for an entire minute straight. So it would be less frustrating to just fight it without the claw.
Meanwhile wirebug has zero conditions to using it outside of how many bugs you have up at the time.
You can.
A. Dodge out of the way of a monsters attack
B. Use a wirebug move for mobility or buff
C. Reposition to a higher location
D. Manuever through the map with it.
>prettty unique uses for it. You even acknowledge this in your post. You're dickriding the bigclaw to the point of hyperbole too.
No they don't, on DB's they aren't worth it, on switch axe they aren't worth it, hell the slinger burst is SUPER situational and doesn't use the clutch claw at all. People barely used them over just using the new movesets.
Tenderizing as a mechanic was also just boring due to the bloated stagger/damage values on monsters that made it impossible to stagger them without tenderizing them.
>this literally applies to CC too but you didn't explain specifically why it "doesn't count" or is invalid.
almost 100% of clutch claw attacks are for tenderizing, some weapons don't even have clutch claw combos. So I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, the slinger burst doesn't even count as a combo as you need AMMO to use it either way.
The clutch claw itself was a complete butchering of mounting as a whole why you seem to think it's remotely comparable to a maneuverability mechanic is just pure retardation.
No one is defending the clutch claw, it's pretty universally regarded as bad. Did you really think this was a big "counter culture" write up?
sorry risebabs, I just couldn't stand how ugly your game is
Worldfags are a cancer for MH.
monster hunter rise sunbreak was the better game
clutchclaw this worldbabies
>3ds games
dogshit because of shit hardware and gimmicks
>MHW
okay but mantles are pushing it
>MHW Iceborne
dogshit, clutch claw gimmick ruins combat
>Rise
dogshit gimmicks
ENOUGH with the GIMMICKS and MOUNTING and 3DS and CLUTCH CLAW
We need to go back. but we never will, because most people started with MHW or the Nintendo games. Yes, that means (You) as you reply
You didn't play Dos
You can just say your a world sperm you seething gay.
>all bad except world hur durrr
We all know what needs to happen, console babbies.
Console franchise
Combat in all three of those games are pretty shitty by MH standards. Arts, Styles, Clutch Claw, Wirebugs are all garbage mechanics.
its already been leaked, it will be called monster hunter paradise and now clutchclaw does rise super moves and mantles are removed
cry more worldgays
*sips monster energy*
These days i just play monster hunter rise, really is a return to form back to the old days, its really like im being ambushed by my first rathalos in 1.
You kids wouldn't get it.
reminder that Sunbreak did away with Sieges anyways
>Rise was bad enough that they dropped the main gimmick in the DLC, didn't even wait until the next game
52% of all rampages are caused by just 13% of the monster population!!!!!!!!!!!
MHFU is still more fun in combat than any of the modern games. Stop adding gimmicks.
Those threads were really something
There's 1, maybe 2 posts tops that could be slightly interpreted as nintendo fanboys. Pretty much all the replies in that screencap were the opinions of the general MH fanbase across the board, especially on the heels of the XX Switch announcement.
you just reminded me that capcom massively delayed GU in the west for no reason other than they knew it might make people realize world had almost no content
I don't think that was the case do to how poorly capcom treated GU. Remember, when World was revealed, they announced that they WEREN'T going to localize XX in any form, only to almost completely shadowdrop it over a year later.
5 years of these threads
Is there a single voice in Capcom who wants to get rid of all the gimmicks?
Yeah, I'm thinking MH6 is going to be PC exclusive.
Anyone else want loading zones and pre 4th gen map design back?
Jungle proves that you don't need loading zones to have a soulful and fun map.
Rise proven you don't need loading zones if the monsters actually run at sanic speeds when moving from one place to another.
Rise still has shit maps though just less shit than World's and made slightly more tolerable by the existence of dogs and wirebugs
They were alright, maybe a bit bland, at least we didn't get ancient forest and sunken hollow levels of bad.
I'll happily shit on Ancient forest because that map was awful, but i do have to wonder, would it have been less bad if we had had wirebugs? I feel like Rise's movement could almost have redeemed ancient forest as a map.
With how much of a clusterfuck some areas are, I doubt it.
I really fucking hope Surge Slash comes back as a Greatsword option in the next monster hunter. It's just way too fun.
Based take. Being able to change your style is fantastic. I love meeting other surge slash chads in the wild.
Also blast dash for GL is tge only way forward.
Surge slash combo and rage slash saved gen 5 GS.
rage slash is cool but it wasn't enough for me to pick the weapon back up after what they massacred it in world
Oh, I agree. Surge slash was the true champ.
You're really happy with gay HBG cunts still dealing a billion damage while hiding behind their pussy shield with crouch shot?
I don't care. I cut them hard and they shoot them. S'all good.
I miss my boy nibelsnarf so god damn much
pour out a bomb barrel in respect.
I'm excited for World 2, i just really hope they keep some of the new moves Rise added. I just can't imagine a Gunlance that can't fly around anymore.
>be parryfag
>MHW/iceborne is giant playground
>rise comes out
>shits all wank, anime, and wirebug gated except longsword
>hate weebstick tho fucks sake
pisssssssss
>bro just play cb-
GP CB is piss in rise unless youre an elecuck speedrunner idiot that abuses staggers
There are at least half a dozen different parry-related wirebug skills in Rise.
>complain about wirebug shit
>bro theres a LOT of wirebug parries!
......
this is the mental prowess of a rise fan.
The complaint doesn't make sense and most of the post is incoherent. You must be drunk or on some dumb shit.
>its YOUR fault i cant read!
Isn't "too many parries" one of Ganker's biggest gripes about rise.
Is this post AI generated
>if i pretend theres more than one of me ill look less retarded
Is this how you cope with typing incoherent babble, accuse everyone of being a retard and a samefag?
How the fuck were you parrying anything in world
CB GP, and GS tackle mostly. LS when reaaaally bored.
>GPs and GS tackles are parries
ah, I see
>posts pic related
>has pic related tier opinion
as do i
>lists 3 things that are functionally untouched in rise
lol
CBGP in rise is about the same
the problem is nothing else is
the monsters are on crack and the knockback of shit cant be fully negated even with 5 guard+GP+Guardup
so no its not really the same.
lance also has a similar issue(but works around it much better)
also tackle is garbo in rise.
Not even world let you just GP everything for free
no but what it did do was let you actually followup.
>world let you parry more
>the parries you're cumming over exist in rise
>uuuuh but sometimes the knockback is a bit much
>same as world
>well uuuuuh I can't SAED things to death
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If anything world CB was completely braindead with how easy monsters were to stagger with diablos CB
what games have the least braindead CB?
That's right, it's Monster hunter Generations
right, i never got into Gen because CB was completely broken
yea i didnt use the diablos CB. it was a bit bent.
plenty of parries in rise aren't locked behind silkbinds, you seem mentally deficient though
oh.
i forgot lance.
43% of my playtime is lance in world and i forgot to mention it.
>how can you forget lance with that much time put into it
ask the devs
LMAO GOTTEM.
post age, BMI, and ethanol concertation
>concertation
You can GP 90% of attacks and for the other 10% exists embolden, if you're too retarded to move left against the big supernova
My autistic mhtard friend told me to start with 4U and I actually liked it. I just killed gore magala and you know, that was fun
Does it get better in World/Rise?
4U doesn't end at Gore, that's like, the beginning of the game bro, keep playing it.
I see. I'm just saying that the game clicked for me already, but also good to know
Damn, why? I just hope my favorite weapon isn't garbo in those games (SA)
World and Rise are far more streamlined and control way better but are more handholdy at times
Lots of mechanics that were staples of the series since the beginning were changed with the goal of appealing to a wider audience rather than improving the games.
5th gen Switch Axe is pure sex, if you liked it before you'll love it even more
World and Rise are very divisive among fans of the older games
Why would a twitter poll or the opinions of twitter posters matter at all in regards to what we can expect from MH6? Oh that's right, it doesn't. Die. Now.
Damn I wonder what kind of content this "TeraRyza" guy mak-
Capcom to be more cancerous with its monetization, DRM and CapcomID
that's funny
I think I might list those in the exact opposite order, but I did enjoy all of the games very much and I think in-fighting by fans is the stupidest
Maybe it's just nostalgia for Gen talking
NO MORE GIMMICKS CAPCOM
This. And also for Street Fighter.
Good post.
Bad post.
Why do people pretend swimming was a good gimmick?
because despite being terrible it was still so much better than all the other map ruining gimmicks that came afterwards
Because I like Lagiacrus!
where is 4u for the 3ds. That was a great game.
May she finally return.
morons and gays everywhere.
Biological women in the game will be forced into full burkas.
Started with MH1 and played every game in order (yes even Dos)
World is without a doubt the best MH game, second to only Frontier, they took 4U's combat and improved it near perfection
Sadly they ruined it with Iceborne and Clutch Claw shit but oh well, now that the experimentation phase is over, I expect an absolute masterpiece
Hammer in world was absolute slop
Actually world hammer wasn't slop it was slope
>second to only Frontier
opinion discarded, frontier was absolute dogshit and the source of all the anime move bullshit we're seeing now
>took 4U's combat and improved it near perfection
>post a way worse version of 4U teo
lmao
World Teo may have been pathetically castrated, like all returning World monsters, but old world Teo was rancid dogshit.
2nd gen teo was a basic bitch but 4th gen teo was a absolute beast
I liked rise/sunbreak but it was pretty obviously worse than world. Still fun tho. Take the couple of superior parts about risebreak/4U, and the structure of world, and you'll have a fucking incredible game.
id like rise more if it had cross save. i dont want to fucking mod shit in on pc, it isnt the same.
Fucking loved GU, wacky fun styles and a fuckton of monsters to hunt
Fucking loved WorldBorne, comfy pet collection to go along with my hunts
Fucking loved RiseBreak, god tier combat with a near perfect set of mons to hunt
No matter what direction the next game goes in I'm pretty confident I'll enjoy the shit outta it
Sucks to be the rest of you
iceborne was too skill build and itemcentric. between clutch claw and mantles and skill bloat (a problem in gen too) you would spend a lot of the hunt looking for a wallbang/tenderize which is kind of like the natural evolution of spamming the legs or running monsters into specific spots on the map to down them but it became something you had to do every hunt multiple times a hunt. mantles and augments and skill bloat also hard counter the majority of monster gimmicks to the point black veil ballsack just had to ignore your skills. in handhelds the skill system was not geared towards countering monsters for just one hunt because it took a lot of time to get a full armor set. meanwhile in iceborne i would consistently counter the next monsters status effect to make the hunt much easier. some monsters like screeching legiana are very reminicent of old monsters where you either had their counter item or the fight was fucking miserable and they spend half of it out of your attack range. anyways im not even going to try and defend rise since its more of a super hero action game than a nerfed cripple hunter (muh deliberate actions) game like iceborne and previous titles.
the more barebones games like generations where something as simple as counting a stagger threshold and saving it for when a monster uses a super strong attack or leaves the enrage state was considered a high level strategy. chaining traps to target a monsters problematic parts was something epic in handheld but now the game has advanced way beyond those being learned habits. something like staying a certain distance from a monster to trigger longer attack animations or forcing them to rotate and burn enrage timer is pointless because you can just have constant dps and rely on Iframes or counters to make up for your positioning. those skills almost entirely vanished from me when i played sun break and going back to 4u made me realize how dogshit i am at monster hunter.
im glad for you/sorry that happened
I only played World and Rise, and I want World's multiplayer but with wirebugs. Also hunts that take longer than 5 minutes please.
Who cares about MH we are getting Dragon's Dogma 2
Those two franchises don't step on each other toes, so they coexist.
Chances are that if you like MH you also like DD and the other way around.
>implying we are not getting both
Tgs will be interesting, but it could also be a giant dissapointment. At least those two are guaranteed to appear.
Regular MH
>Find Monster
>Try to sneak attack him
>have a regular fight where you learn his patterns and dodge then attack
Iceborne
>Bugs show you exactly where the monster is
>Go to monster riding a little lizard
>CLUTCH CLAW
>INTO THE WALL
>BANG BANG HUNGA BUNGA
>CLUTCH CLAW INTO THE WALL
>BANG BANG
Is there a chance of a new monster hunter showing up at TGS or should I not even bother hoping?
100% chance anon, don't worry
World was released over 5 years ago, it's about time for a new mainline game
I mean, there is MH guaranteed already, its even announced publicly, but its probably not MH you would want/expect. Its literally pokemon go but MH which is usual goofy jap thing
>World!
>Rise!
>World!
>Rise!
>World!
>Rise!
>World!
>Rise!
>World!
>Rise!
MonHun discussion is fucking dead.
Canon palico/palmute secx with human boys
She did nothing wrong.
Total Rath Death
I'd like to see this bitch in a mainline game if only to get some stylish armor.
world and rise are the same game with minor differences
MHFU - GU is the same game with minor differences
>People talk about Mon Hun and I bring up a fight pre World/Iceborne
>Get looked at like I'm a retard who just raped their parents
>Rise manages to suck even harder
>This few people played XX
Fuck it, I'm old I guess. Time to put another few hundred hours in an older one.
if you enjoyed XX you're part of the problem you fuckin retard
people shit on 5th gen a lot but 4th gen is what really killed the franchise
never group 4U and generations slop together
There's no denying 4U started the death of the series with it's shit maps and the introduction of "endgame" autism in the form of GQs and Relics.
kinda tru tbh
Why are you responding to yourself, dude? Still mindbroken over 4th gen Teo’s Supernova? Needed to vent?
4U didn't jump the shark by introducing super ninja ching chong moves and fighter jet dragonmon. GenGU toddlers really need to stop riding on 4U's coattails. You gays are as cancerous as RiseBreak sperms.
They gotta nerf buddies and not allow them to be brought along in multiplayer. Looks like a clusterfuck and makes things too easy.
GU is literally 4U with arts tacked on btw
GU is literally 4U but less of a rehash.
It's also the better 4th gen game.
passed on Sunbreak when I saw the graphics lol. Let me know when Monster Hunter wants to come back to being a serious game not just a little nincel toy
It was worse then world but world is still shit
Uh oh eric meltie
>"best combat"
>also has one of the worst rosters in the series
Yeah sure
So are they doing a reveal at TGS or is that just more showcasing for that mobile shit?
Insane levels of tendie cope itt
Rise was the worst thing to happen to MH's fandom literally just because of how it brought out you obnoxious hypocrites that are willing to forgive literally everything criticized in World because it's not the cool thing to hate like World is. I hope all you worthless contrarians contract incurable ailments.
Always reminds me of that pic with the nintendo fanboy and list of monhun game and he says world is not "real mobster hunter" and then below there's rise and he's like "b-but you know, not everything was bad in world"
I don't even think it's a console war thing. It's literally just because World was the normalfag bait MH. World could have been on Switch and people would have been just as disingenuous with shitting on it.
The worst thing is that it's fairly certain that even in 10 years, after x amount of new monhuns, people here will still shit on world because of that.
Don't forget eating waifu anime slop after year of shitting on Vita's MH clone for being waifu anime slop.
I liled world for the most parts. I liked rise for the most parts. But I only played generation ultimate before those two, so maybe I don't know better or something (don't care tbqh)
i started with freedom 1 on psp and enjoy worldborne + risebreak and i woudn't go back to old mh
5 bucks says some of the people seething about IB to this day are still just butthurt that Alatreon ruined their raw and blast meta by forcing them to actually acknowledge the concept of bringing the right element for the job.
I'm still disappointed Sunbreak didn't have any ludo fights like Alatreon or Fatalis. Probably would have ranked it over IB if it had good end fights.
SB did have good end fights. It just didn't have some silly "spectacle" designed to excite people into a frenzy like IB alatreon and fatalis.
It didn't have a single monster control the armor meta? Good, I'd rather hunt every monster instead of just one.
What is this strawman? That's not even close to what I said. Are you illiterate or just disingenuous?
the existence of wirefall made it virtually impossible to design a fight as difficult as the hardest fights from previous games. it's one of the most glaring designs faults from that game
The move that puts you in greater danger when you use it?
Risen shaggy alone mogs a lot of "most difficult" fights from previous games
I really hope they don't use Risen Siggy for benchmark of difficult fight.
Because that is Frontier tier fight.
Making short spectacle fights instead longer ones is one of the things that ruined endgame arena fight in the 5th gen.
everything after 3U is a mistake
I'd pick world over both but I wouldn't even put rise on the list GU would be second and that's it.
>It just didn't have some silly "spectacle" designed to excite people into a frenzy
I don't know what game you played but it sure as shit wasn't Sunbreak.
Forgot to (you)
Care to enlighten the class on what was supposed to be the end-all-be-all fight of Sunbreak that served as a hype generator for the rest of its life?
This entire fight was literally nothing but a spectacle. Because you're a single digit IQ retard I'll break it down for you. Alatreon and Fatalis HAD spectacle but they were still mechanically engaging fights. Amatsu was nothing BUT spectacle. No difficulty. No engaging mechanics. Literally nothing but flashy effects and epic montage moments. It failed because unlike Alatreon and Fatalis. It wasn't as fun of a fight.
Amatsu was a great fight, I have no clue what you're talking about.
No it wasn't great. It was good. Which makes it a let down compared to either Alatreon or Fatalis. It't even close. Hence my disappointment since it is the last boss of Sunbreak. Those 2 fights are amazing in both presentation and mechanics and are some of the best fights in the whole series. Amatsu nails the presentation sure but it's underwhelming as a fight. Though the quality of the fight here is irrelevant. You're deflecting really fucking hard here. The point is your post here
is full of shit and I honestly doubt you've even played either game it was so stupid a thing to say. Genuinely embarrassing post.
My post was largely that it did have good end fights, especially thanks to every monster being scaled for endgame, but hey if you only want to farm alatreon and fatalis forever that's your prerogative.
It just didn't have some silly "spectacle" designed to excite people
No fuck off. You can't goalpost move that one you prick. You said it didn't have those kind of fights which is an objectively false statement. Take the loss and fuck off cause you got called on your bullshit you shitposting gay. No point trying to save face now after your lie got exposed.
You never responded to the half of the post that mattered. Why is that, shitposter?
If half of your entire post is a blatant lie then the half that is "true" is worthless becuase it's only a truth looked at through a crooked lens. One lie and your entire post is rendered pointless because you expose that you never said it in good faith in the first place. Cope shitposter. Next time don't word your post like a shitpost and maybe it would be possible to take your stupid ass seriously.
>words his post like a shitflinging ape
>complains that his opinion gets discarded like a shitflinging ape
The fact that I genuinely can't tell if you worded it like that intentionally or if it was just a subconscious decision says a lot about how poisoned the well of MH discussion is.
lol been here
here's my upcoming psychosis tip: treat it like it's fun and it will be
you'll still go sorta nuts but in a fun way
>but hey if you only want to farm alatreon and fatalis forever that's your prerogative.
Just gonna ignore furious rajang and raging brachy? Both of those were great fights, brachy in particular. Did it have a hype spectacle? Sure, at the very last third of its health where said spectacle was designed to lock you into the fight until you fainted or it died. Compare that to amatsu who’s basically the safi’jiiva of rise in terms of just disrupting the fight with the ooga booga do this gimmick or die nuke. I say safi and not fatty because unlike fatty who also has that, amatsu doesn’t have the decency to back that spectacle by being a fun and challenging fight on top of having a flashy attack.
Sure, but I'm still having a blast punching out anomalies and dealing with most of the roster still being fantastic fights even in the endgame. IMO saying SB has no good endgame fights is disingenuous as fuck because it's akin to saying the game's entire roster is shit
>but what about guiding lands, then?
Also a good time, but MHW's weaker roster doesn't help it in that regard. I honestly feel that the spectacle monsters are so much more necessary in IB because the supporting roster is so weak.
When are they going to just stop being cucks and give us a mon hun with proper mod support or pull a nindy and make a version where they just add in all mons
I’m not the anon that said sb had no good endgame though. That aside anomalies aren’t exactly what I’d consider good seeing as they’re basically just frenzied/apex/tempered monsters with a tacked on mechanic. Fighting the same monsters with bloated health bars got tired years ago. Almost as tired as Capcom deciding new subspecies should just be “the exact same monster but now it has fire”
Subspecies in Sunbreak don't fight much like their original counterparts at all though and are much more than the recolours with a different element and a new attack slapped on that we've seen for god knows how long.
Magmuldron and rakna but red and with more fire died so quickly for me that I didn’t get a chance to see anything new.
NTA but when I saw that Sunbreak had Rarity 10 weapons for every monsters I immediately got the impression they were going to try a more "horizontal" endgame and was thrilled when I saw they went through with it. It was great to finally have a game in which every monster was relevant at the high end because of how anomaly materials were distributed instead of fighting a handful ad nauseam.
Augmentations are contentious but they really encouraged me to experiment more with my gearsets and work within my means. I ended up crafting a lot of the same pieces of equipment simply because I'd get a good augment on them that was worth holding onto.
>IB Alatreon is a fantastic fight
>when it's objectively easier than is previous iteration
By your definition IB Alatreon is too just a spectacle and nothing more.
>muh mecanic
You can literally ignore it and bruteforce it.
Only fatty was an actual upgrade and added more.
You're not a real Monster Hunter player if you don't remember Jho eating his own tail.
Why the fuck do people like World, man? Like I don't fucking get it. It does so much shit infuriatingly worse than any other entry and ITS the one that gets the mainstream attention?
Maybe the shit it did worse was what got it mainstream attention in the first place.
God, the mainstream are a weird bunch
>It does so much shit infuriatingly better
fixed
Unironically just World 2.
Take World, make roster bigger and way more varied, add underwater and dark caves, weather system and more interactable maps, and a good online hub like Tri but bigger.
>MH is one of the most well-taken care of franchises in all of gaming
>this shitty board is only interested in endlessly flinging shit at the 2 most recent AND most successful games
Yeah I'm fucking done
Its a shame, Back in 3-4 this site was great to talk about MH, it was no popular enough to draw in the shit throwing normies
I dunno man there was that time between Tri and Generations where we only got shitty ass spinoffs and 3DS games
Friendly reminder the drama didn't start until world and only got worse after rise initiated gay console wars
I remember quite a bit of drama when Capcom dropped the PS2/PSP for the wii/3DS
I would say nothing akin to what we see today as someone who begrudgingly got a wii just for tri. Community still discussed the games based on their merits instead of having some weird tribal war over consoles.
>tfw no 4U on the PS Vita
*vid of exasperated male figure collapsing into the grass*
It was sonys fault for making the PSP absurdly easy to pirate shit for really
The fault with the vita was that they just fucking abandoned it entirely. Fucking criminal how little support they gave it at least we got muramasa
MH6 shown in like 9 days or so
No bing bing and lay off the wahoo
Honestly I can't even imagine how huge MH6 is going to be
>MHW but bigger and better in every way
>way more budget and dev time
>giant fanbase already established
>an actual properly planned post-launch support, unlike World, and probably bigger than IB and SB
>releasing pc/xbox/ps day one with crossplay
>if Switch 2 rumors are true, very likely to be ported there too
>first fully next-gen Capcom game
>one of the first truly major AAA games only next-gen
>in a moment where people are starving for new multiplayer and especially coop experiences
This shit is gonna dwarf even World in terms of success. The long term sales during the whole generation are going to be insane
Hate to break it to you but Capcom are back to being low-effort shit. Just compare REmake 3 and 4 to 2.
You just regurgitate everything you see on here, 4r was overall great and improved on most of the tiny issues og had, both are still great games. As far as 3 it's campaign length is almost identical to og re3 and the gameplay was fine.
Wrong
>gameplay was fine.
Not an argument, the issue with the game wasn't gameplay but same level of replayability as other REs when it came to added difficulty and modes. Prob because capcom was desperately diverting dev attention to the shitty DbD clone
The absolute state of rice/lunchbreak
>started with 3U and 4U
>both are reviled by fivers on the one hand and retrofags on the other for different reasons
Release me from this hell
>both are reviled by fivers
No they aren't.
>FU fags hate 3rd gen onwards for not being FU
>4U fags hate 3U cause water
>World and Rise fags hate old gen casue zoomer
>3U fags hate 4U for bad maps/balance/endgame
You forgot one of the most vocal quadrants; “tri was perfect and 3U ruined everything”
Don't know who you are referring to but they sound retarded, started with mhfu and would argue 4U might be peak of the series, 3U fixed nearly all the problems with tri and played the fuck out of both of these in Tokyo. None of the shitflinging honestly started until world and rise, the problem is always letting too many normies in.
There will be no boss like ahtal-ka ever again
Absolutely fucking criminal they didn't bring him back for world or rise with the added vertical movement of all the bosses that could take advantage of this.
I miss insect type monster
A lot of the big siege monsters could have been cool with Rise's movement but I guess now we'll never know.
>add grappling hooks and wallrunning
>remove monster tracking so there's barely any reason to put those skills to good use
I'm still mad
For me it was Dalamadur
All better options than fucking narwa
At least they put amatsu back
Yeah this and lucent were good calls just bizzare choices and a lot of shitmons for no reason, like why the fuck was tetsukabra left out
MH6 is going to be a micro transaction addled, open world live service game and I'll finally be able to let go.
omg i am le hardcore monhun fan i like shitty gameplay of 1 and dos because im so hardcore and og
FREE HER !!!
Peco my beloved <3
When big bro gets called to kick your ass
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I'm hoping for MHWorld 2
Wirebug was an interesting try at a mechanic but I think it should stay there like tri's underwater combat or Generation's Valor style
I hope it's g rank. I really need the salt.
Sex with palamute.
Sex with paolumu!
only thing I liked from Rise.
YJK
Wow, I can't believe World is STILL making bing's seethe with it's superiority.
>World 2 or at least in the style of world
>keep SB's weapon moveset changes and switch skills plus new ones, perhaps make some that felt like direct upgrades like kinsect slash and shield tackle the default
>arts stay but they have a proper meter you have to fill like gen
>everything else related to wirebug/rampages gone
>palamutes gone
>tenderizing/CC gone, maybe do something else with the slinger
>areas from world return with some new sections plus 2-3 new areas
>make the main village also the hub like SB
>perhaps its time we get a new weapon type or 2 if I'm being really greedy
>put in valor GL somehow
Riseshitters have so obviously lost to Worldchads it's not even funny at this point.
The fans crave more World.
>fans
*newfags
GU was fucking great and you morons got filtered
People can argue about the games all they like but the truth of the matter is the only good games of the series were MHFU-4U, everything else is mediocre to garbage.
People have always been arguing whether the Portable or mainline games were better. It even included console wars as far back as Tri. This is nothing new. The only new thing is you.
>Worldsperm are also twitter screencap fags
Like clockwork
>World and Rise at the top spots
Oh shit the series is long past the tipping point. Only dark times await moving forward.
>The top spots
Out of three. That's the entire poll.
Still doesn't negate the point. The series has sold out and won't ever go back to its former glory.
>peer into thread
>first 1/3 is "World and Iceborne have these specific issues with combat"
>literally any criticism is barked at by constantly calling people retards, even if they're die hard World fans like them
Do I even need to go further into this thread? World/Iceborne somehow became a game people simultaneously masturbate over while berating EACH OTHER despite enjoying the exact same game. Rise players get along better than this, hell games prior to World had players getting along more harmoniously. Be it here or social media, World always seems to cause the biggest arguments and literally half of it is people defending it to the absolute limit and not taking any sort of critique of the numerous problems the game has.
Get over it, guys. World/Iceborne was good, but it's not great. Not even close.
Alright, you get to choose 5 monsters to return in MH6 who didn't show up in 5th Gen, who are you picking?
Duramboros
Blangonga
Great Maccao
Deviant Blos
Moofah
gypceros
congalala
malfestio
zamtrios
ukanlos
Camgalala
Adam Ka
Crystalpedo Lazygaan
White Genoblos
Turkecha Wacha
BONUS
Hellgabe Glavebugman
Duramboros
Lao-Shan Lung
Lagiacrus
Gogmazios
Congalala
Anyone know if you have to buy the expansion/DLC's to play co-op? that's the only thing holding me back buying any of the MH games right now since it's currently on sale.
You dont need to buy it.
Base game can play with people that own the expansion in base game content. You get all of the QoL the expansion brought, but none of the exclusive content.
Keep in mind that expansion content is a tier above the base game content.
So any co-op you'd get in the base game would be people similar to you, or people that are overgeared and wound up in your co-op session
my biggest issue with 5th gen is this fucking mmo title update shit they've got going on. just release the fucking game and call it a day. MAYBE add 1 or 2 new monsters but thats it, title update shit just causes fomo and completely kills all sense of progression, not to mention literal mmo design philosophy where new gear almost always (keyword here almost) outclasses old gear. sunbreak actually did it better with iceborne but it got monkey pawed with new charms and adding more skills to the qurio crafting gacha bullshit.
I will only join these shit-flinging threads when I'm in my wage cage. Expect me to be HOOONTING during my free time on MH6.
I only care if I'm able to play as a tomboy.
My expectation for MH6 is for the Gun Sword from Lost Planet 2 to be implemented as a new weapon class.
Well we are never getting a new lost planet so might as well.
>asking westoids which MH is better
Daily reminder if someone is defending World in english there is a greater than a 90% chance world was their first MH
I really dislike Mantles, but other than that World was fine. I am a mhfu-bab
same, my first mh was FU and I prefer World over those other 2, the combat felt just right and satisfying
I would get rid of mantles and ofc clutch claw
Personally i'm fine if CC is just way to attached hunter into monster.
Sort of nerf'd wired bug, but giving them wall bang and tenderizer is way to much and they have to band aid it with bloated HP and Shitzone.
>daily reminder that the better game sells well
thanks for the graph, confirms what I already knew
Proving my point 🙂
>sunbreak getting fucking BTFO
god damn it's good to see that piece of shit get mog'd
As someone who didn't play Rise, which was more difficult?
>solo extreme behemoth (vanilla world)
>solo risen shaggy
behemoth, easily
Is anything more difficult than solo extremoth outside of Frontier stuff?
The beefed up investigation Shaggy is more threatening when it actually goes Risen.
Behemoth is a slow hunk of shit for half the fight and the real difficulty is the clock. Only worth a damn in phase 3 and 4, but the area you fight the thing becomes dogshit since you either have to deal with lave explosions or falling ceiling crystals
maybe I should give iceborne another try, I gave up pretty early into MR because I didn't have any cool armors to fashionhunt in.
Am I the only one really bothered by the fact that Rathalos in world telegraphs his tail swipes for 2 seconds?
He didn't do this in earlier games and it bugs me because it makes him so much easier
All the world monsters are generally slower than their old gen counterparts. In a way its a good thing that instant charges are gone. But they became massive pushovers as a result.
A TCS to the legs of these chicken skeletons is pretty much a guaranteed trip too which I really disliked.
That it will be shit, just like World
I just want a version of the clutch claw counter to be part of Lance's core moveset in every single MH game going forward.
I would trade every Lance silkbind move in Rise for the CC Counter, even if it didn't do good damage.