>One ‘Switch 2’ demo is understood to have been an improved version of the Switch launch title Zelda: Breath of the Wild, running at a higher framerate and resolution than the original game did, on hardware targeting the new console’s specs
>Another VGC source claimed that Nintendo showcased Epic’s impressive The Matrix Awakens Unreal Engine 5 tech demo – originally released to showcase the power of PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X in 2021 – running on target specs for its next console.
>The demo is said to have been running using Nvidia’s DLSS upscaling technology, with advanced ray tracing enabled and visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
>visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
>visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
>visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/sources-nintendo-showed-switch-2-demos-at-gamescom/
Holy shit. What is Sony thinking right now?
It will have the power of PS5
No, it'll just have comparable visuals
Which is bad enough for Sony because that's literally all they have to coast on. They are able to brag that their machine can pump out the best visuals because it's basically just PS4 Pro 2, even has the same number of CUs and has a functionally brain-dead graphics API for third party studios to use.
If the Switch 2 is $400, has full Back Compat and is plentifully available at launch, it will SKYROCKET past the PS5 lifetime sales by the second year, basically halt PS5 sales in Japan completely and become the desired platform of choice for Third party devs in general.
Ironically enough, if devs figure out how to cram their 4K textures onto it, it'll probably give a boost to Series S support as well since any sort of Sampler Feedback memory optimizations will apply there too
Sony will release PS5 pro if they feel threatened
Yeah and what would it be exactly? Even if they were able to source components to make enough of them without cutting into their OG or "Slim" variants, the PS5 cost $500 USD and is pricey as hell in every other part of the world. Any remotely significant increase in "power", whatever that may mean exactly, is going to lead to an increased cost at manufacture and given that this is the company that just raised PS+ prices a good chunk, I doubt they're in any position to eat that cost.
Oh wow a new console that can artificially upscale to a higher resolution and still doesn't have any worthwhile exclusives how will the SwitchU ever compete?
Third party developers just develop games to work on PC/PS5/Xbox. They all use the same hardware and there are no compatibility issues. If the Switch 2 thing is powerful enough they will throw that in as well. If it's laughably underpowered they will just ignore it like they usually do.
they'll do it at their own peril same as switch too, that is a metric fuckton of free money to throw away by not putting SOMETHING on switch, and people were happy enough even with the downgrades to graphically impressive games like the two dooms
>Which is bad enough for Sony because that's literally all they have to coast on.
This.
>Which is bad enough for Sony because that's literally all they have to coast on.
They're coasting on the strongest brand loyalty in the industry, built up during PS1 and PS2 days and solidified during PS4. They'll be fine at least for another decade.
>past the PS5 lifetime sales
>by the second year
>second
>year
if that leak is true it will out sell the PS5 and SeriesX COMBINED in just 9 months
I think it will have enough steam to do so but I'm accounting for how much stock Nintendo can reasonably pump out each year.
If they properly market it and convey its value, then they could probably hit 30 million the first year and 65 LTD by the end of the second year.
This is assuming they COMMIT to manufacturing enough, getting them shipped with minimal issues and market it properly so that people know it's the NEW thing.
Though it's not too much of a priority for Nintendo. Their games sell great years after release, so it's not like with Xbox or Sony where they want the installbase to be as big as possible on the launch of games cause sales drop off HARD afterwards
Switch 2 will probably be more powerful than PS5. PS5 is already 3 years old. And still hasn't gotten any games.
Honestly not that hard considering how desperate AMD is getting, Nvidia is complacent as all hell but they overcharge for their GPU, struck a deal with Nintendo to squeeze AMD out the byline by not only outperforming the Steam Deck, but the next generation of the Steam Deck will probably be cheaper with more power to convince the audience that Nvidia is wavering
Strap in boys, we're going full retard mode.
Also I'm sure Xbox Team is probably malding that the Switch 2 has more and faster memory than the Series S by accident.
>but the next generation of the Steam Deck will probably be cheaper with more power to convince the audience that Nvidia is wavering
This would work if developers weren't getting exceedingly retarded and UE5 wasn't a bloated piece of shit
The irony is that the even if Deck 2 is stronger, it'll just lead to worse running games as most hardware bumps
Tendies are fucking delusional.
Someone please screencap all these retarded posts. I can't wait for them to get BTFO once their new console arrives and it ends up not even being close to PS4 specs
>snoy mad that his paperweight has no game 3 years in
>snoys
>No new Zelda game
Pass
BotW and TotK performance patch and we're good for a few years.
holy fucking nintendr*ne
lol Nintendo won't do this. Even if Switch 2 has backwards compatability, you will have to shell out another $70 for the "enhanced" version.
It will need backwards compat. Their next one will be a dud, history has proven they never sustain 2 successes in a row. That's why Sony are Sony and Nintendo are Nintendo
Nintendo and Super Nintendo were successes. Multiple game boys and ds's were successes. You zoomie trannies are beyond retarded
Nintendo was on its own for the most part. Snes had a hard time but the long game saved it. Between the snes and the switch there's only been one real success for them with the wii. They've had more duds than wins in the home market over the last 3 decades
>duds
The only "dud" they've had is the Virtual Boy. Nintendo doesn't sell at a loss and ever since the Wii, hasn't cared about the console wars at all.
The GameCube and Wii U bombed are you delusional? The N64 was also the equivalent of the Xbox one where while it didn't completely bomb it still got absolutely demolished by PlayStation.
>it still got absolutely demolished by PlayStation
You're the one delusional here. Winning the console wars is not the goal of these corporations, it's to sell consoles. However small, Nintendo still made a profit on those. The only time they didn't was the Virtual Boy. You talking about duds, check out the PS3 and how deep a hole it dug for Sony.
The Gamecube didn't bomb though. The PS2 was so insanely dominant that it did about as well as could be expected in that environment. The Wii U was a dud in a much more competitive space though, there are no explanations or excuses for that one beyond Nintendumbasses.
Explain their handhelds.
They're handhelds
I've pirated all but three Switch games since mine is a V1, I suppose I owe them
lowest iq poster in the thread
I only buy Nintendo consoles for Zelda games. I consider it a Zelda tax.
knowing nintendo, we WILL be able to play switch games on this right? there wont be any garden gnome fuckery where we have to rebuy the games or some stupid shit, right??!
Last mention of it in investor meetings had them talk about ensuring smooth transisitons, retaining customer's, and how BC is easier then ever.
That's good too no. Wood not of expected that from modern Nintendo. What affect could they're decision have on sales, I wonder
>Wood not
Retard
80% of nintendo's game revenue comes from 1st party and their titles are ever green. no way the next console isn't backwards compatible. they want to keep selling mario wonder
>hey want to keep selling mario wonder
Switch 2 is holiday next year. It'll have almost a year of shelf time.
I think it will come in march of next year
Holiday. I promise.
It's already confirmed to use a different cartridge size so hard physical copies of Switch games won't work. Luckily, you CAN play Switch games on them but only after you buy them from the store goyim. 🙂
GB->GBA, GBA->ogDS, DS->3DS, Gamecube->Wii
Same cartridge size means nothing. Literally as simple as designing the port to accept either (or in the DS's case have a different port for the 1st gen models)
>designing the port to accept either
>GBC cart awkwardly sticking out of GBA
SOVL
means nothing. they could just add a little tab on the cartridge like they did with the 3DS to make the slot compatible with old switch games, but the new games incompatible with the old switch.
the switch was also the first nintendo platform, both handheld and console, since the N64 to not have BC.
GB to GBA
GBA to DS
DS to 3DS
GC to Wii
Wii to Wii U
only NES, SNES and N64 didnt have BC. and the switch. but there was good reason for that.
you're an actual retard who has never owned a nintendo console in their life or even bothered to google this shit. Literally just 3DS to DS bc.
Only reason Switch didn't have BC is because it'd be impossible to make switch games compatible with Wii U games with
>no wii u pad
>the fact that switch uses carts not discs
funnily enough this allowed them to resell Wii U games for full price since only like 5% of switch users even had a Wii U
I expect digital games to have an "upgrade" fee like PS5 does
Doesn't sony have a new ps5 slim coming with a removable disk drive? if they can price that at $300 dollars they will be fine. if not they are in trouble
Sony is in its own world
They could release a $400 flash drive and people would buy it.
This is the result of 30 years catering to the low IQ demographic.
>Holy shit. What is Sony thinking right now?
Probably comfortable still at the front of the pack per usual.
>Probably comfortable still at the front of the pack per usual.
I'm sure they felt that way with the original Switch and PS4 except now it's clear that Nintendo is firing on all cylinders and there's a VERY good chance that a Switch 2 could take the wind out of the PS5's sails internationally
>front of the pack
>ps5 90 million behind switch
lol
Switch isn't a console. It's a mobile gaming system like the Deck or a mobile phone. Neither Xbox nor Sony care about or view Switch as competition.
all these devices compete with each other. there is no console market, mobile market, ect. there is only the gaming market
>there is no console market, mobile market, ect. there is only the gaming market
Incorrect.
well there might be a console market in the same way there is a vinyl record market, niche hardware for nostalgia and hipsters
Anon, I literally work in this industry. Stop talking about shit you don't understand.
>Anon, I literally work in this industry. Stop talking about shit you don't understand.
brilliant Ganker! when somebody makes a case just say it's wrong instead of actually showing why! I bet you think I'm the same anon too. nah. I just think Ganker is stupid and thought terminating to most discussion
Seething tendie angry that he's right. No one feels bothered or threatened by Nintendo's handhelds. They don't compete with real consoles.
>No one feels bothered or threatened by Nintendo's handhelds. They don't compete with real consoles.
Which is why the PSP, Vita, and Portal don't exist? Dumbass snoy.
moms playing bejweled on their phones are not the same market as people who want to play call of duty
wrong. it used to be casual gaming was something on consoles, then phones made it cheaper and more convenient so people stopped buying consoles. the same thing is happening with hardcore gaming like call of duty, it is just taking longer because the technology for 3d rendering on phones isn't advanced enough yet.
>What is Sony thinking right now?
>heh, we'll show them
>releases wii u clone
>Neither Xbox nor Sony care about or view Switch as competition.
Yes, in the same way that two kids having a brawl in the parking lot after school don't consider Mike Tyson to be their competition.
>releases wii u clone
The funniest thing was I initially thought "oh, it'll communicate directly with some private frequency and have a unique way of decompressing the image and sound so fast that it's basically lagless, that's why they can't do streaming from the cloud"
but it turns out you can use the thing remotely over another wi-fi network to play on your PS5. So why the fuck can't it play off the cloud?
Mike Tyson and the switch are a great example, both were out dated/past it and irrelevant in their field even ten years ago
And both still clobber the competition. Pretty embarrassing every other console has worse games, fewer exclusives, and lower sales than a tablet that was outdated the day it was released.
Mike Tyson wouldn't clobber boxers in their prime ten years ago. And adults with busy lives don't care about Mario's wonderful rainbow adventure 34. Nintendo have always been the kiddie option, it's cheaper than the powerful stuff, they're not stupid and know their market. They can sell inferior quality systems and children and even certain adults will happily buy them anyway.
Sure, if you're busy exploring 1000 barren planets and doing the same copy/paste quests with identical item placement in Starfield, or watching 16 hours of cutscenes in a 30 hour game with single-button gameplay like Final Fantasy XVI I can see why you wouldn't have time to play an actual video game.
Old man Tyson would still beat the shit out of anyone in this thread.
This. No one cares about Nintendo's kiddy handhelds. There's a reason tendies are so insecure they have to insert themselves into every console war talk. This thread proves it.
>Neither Xbox nor Sony care about or view Switch as competition.
Do you know what Netflix said was their biggest competitor?
It's not Hulu or HBO Max. It's Fortnite
Why? Because when you're all in the bucket of Entertainment and you're competing for people's time as well as their money, then Video games are competing with streaming services.
It's pure copium to say "well ackshually the Switch is using mobile gaming hardware, so it's more like the deck (a handheld computer) or smart phones"
IT doesn't matter if people actually use their Switch and buy games for their switch that take away time and money that would otherwise be used on Playstation or Xbox.
Sony is absolutely seeing the Switch as competition because every hour and every dollar you spend on a Switch game means you're not buying a similar game or spending that hour on Playstation.
Now, if you told me Sony doesn't seem Switch in the same way they see Xbox as competition, I'd agree. Switch is 1st party driven, Xbox and PS5 are 3rd party driven
But Sony absolutely sees Switch as a competitor because its popularity attracts third parties and so far, the only saving grace of the PS5 is that its specs allow it to attract AAA games before they hit Switch (if ever). But if that changes, if Switch2 gets into striking range of the PS5 in terms of hardware specs, then Sony is going to start making an effort to push back (and likely failing).
All head cannon from a coping tendie.
>cannon
This is how stupid sony ponies are. Remember that.
Microsoft stated under oath they see the Switch as competition, and the FTC's argument that they don't because "uhhh the sales data memos have Switch 3rd instead of 2nd (obviously Xbox is 1st on Xbox's data sheets)" was rejected by the judge.
Kek did Snoy pay these lawyers or something? Did they put Playstation ahead of switch out of seethe even though it would have helped their argument to put themselves last?
You'd think so based on how often the FTC brought up Sony in that trial. Judge even had to tell them at one point that it doesn't matter if the acquision is bad for Sony, only if it's bad for consumers.
They advised actually, yes
Which is why they lost what should have been a boilerplate, open-and-shut anti-trust case by turning it into a legal space for console wars
Hello FTC, how's that model coming along
It's a portable system. Basically a 3ds successor with a dock. They don't do a home console now so anyone who enjoyed that shit has no choice but to get a switch. It's a fantastic success story for them, they've turned a negative (losing simultaneous home AND portable machines in 2 markets and just having a single portable machine) into a positive.
That's what you retards said more than a decade ago about the wii. You were wrong then too. The wii beat your ass.
>It's not fair to call this gaming console a gaming console because my favorite brand can't compete
Arguing that the Switch isn't a console because you can pick it up and throw it in a backpack is about the single most delusional argument I have ever read.
third party devs are gonna jump on nintendos massive rod hard now that they have an actually capable console
you confidence shall not be everlasting, sonybro
Third party haven't cared about Switch since the SNES.
This. There's a reason tendies need to mention Sony in every thread.
sony is a piece of shit platform who murdered every ounce of good will it had with its audience once they went woke and killed senran kagura.
they barely have games and what little 'exclusives' they have, will NEVER hold a torch to what they had in the PS1-2-P-3 days.
This is a nintendo thread about the new switch. It's you retards who are bringing up the sony.
I wonder why Snoys keep thinking that they're the market leader. Dearie, you haven't been since 2017.
>why Snoys
Superiority complex. Its been going on since the mid 90s.
>understood
>claimed
>is said
Yeah bro.... Totally believable
How the fuck are people expecting ps5 like graphics, the battery would last 20 minutes
The likely reality is that the handheld mode is running at 1080p at some underclocked GPU speed, and then they handle DLSS (either situated on the SOC or in the dock) to upscale to 4K. Presumably they'd optimize with the assumption that the full speed GPU could hit framerates that give DLSS enough headroom to operate while still hitting 4K60 or 4K30.
The point here is that where PS5 sweats a lot because it relies on either doing things natively or using FSR2 to uprez their games into a messy "4K' resolve, the Switch will likely be able to pump out similar performance at a fraction of the processing power because they're using generally more advanced techniques with their upscaling
>4k
>in handheld
when do you sub room temp IQ retards understand that "4K capable" means literally NOTHING.
a fucking GTX 1060 is 8K capable. doesnt mean itll run it. just like how PS5 and SeX claim 4K capability yet in practice only a couple few are actually able to run that high.
I meant handheld is in 1080p and DLSS is used in docked to reach 4K
Only retard here is you. DLSS can easily render on much smaller resolution and then upscale it to 4k for almost no overhead performance cost.
I mean when people say "comparable" I assume they mean just within the same ballpark as a Series S, and those consoles are 3 years old at this point, completely ancient shit. I don't think it'd be unheard of that an untrained eye could look at a game running on the new Switch and say "Wow it's a portable PS5!" which will fall apart when doing direct comparisons.
Plus Switch has shit battery life, Switch 2 will likely have even worse battery life.
>3 years is ancient
Meanwhile retards here still run pc's with 1060's lmao
They don't give a fuck, some games would burn out launch Switch battery life in under 2 hours and people still bought it
This isn't the steam deck we're talking about chud
>How the fuck are people expecting ps5 like graphics, the battery would last 20 minutes
Handheld don't have to run as well as docked does. Docked games can be 4k (DLSS) while handheld can be 900p. That's a massive gap and no one will notice in handheld because the screen is tiny.
At this point, metroid prime 4 better just skip the switch
>graphics don't matter, only mature gaymers care about that
>HAH YES THE GRAPHICS WILL BE COMPARABLE TO THE OTHER CONSOLES, SWITCH WINS AGAIN
um......
I just want solid performance. Quite a few games I'm sitting on in case they run better on Switch 2.
Performance and Resolution are different from what people mean when they talk about Graphics.
Granted, I'm fine with a clear 1080p and Stable, rocksolid 30/60 FPS. That's still fine for me.
But when people have shitted on graphics for the past 3 generations, they're usually talking about the number of polygons being rendered and the detail and style of the textures. Normies understand 'good graphics' as when a character looks photorealistic, usually as a mix of the mesh having tons of polygons and the texture being extremely detailed with tons of shaders running to simulate sweat or skin oil
I'd be happy if I just got the current version of Age of Calamity or Xenoblade 1-3 running at a clear 1080p with 60 fps. That would honestly be enough for me
Should call it the Switch U.
It will be called Nintendo Swap
well PS4 and PS5 already have little differences so I guess PS4 level is accurate
Why do tendies feel so threatened by Sony? Even in a thread about the Switch successor they have to mention Sony? Did 5 generation of Sony domination mind break them this hard? They really have Sony living rent free in their heads.
trying too hard
well the answer to that is simple i think. weebs used to be playstation owners but then the weeb games went onto the switch and they're upset that sony stopped supporting their favorite games or required heavy censorship for them so they want sony to fail because the weebs think sony made a poor choice. which i understand, i don't think most hardcore gamers like the trend of companies increasingly targeting casuals and spiting their existing bases while doing so.
if the switch 2 can play big name multiplats day 1 then sony is going to have start trying hard to retain customers and give more hardcore gamers and weebs a reason to actually own their device and be on their ecosystem.
>5 generations
Do you mean 3?
PS1, 2, and 4 (pre switch).
3 lost to wii, and late gen 4 + 5 lost to switch
Should I sell my Switch games, will they increase in value?
Please do not view your video games as part of your financial portfolio
>will they increase in value?
They always do. If you play your Switch games on the Switch 2 and they stop producing them then they'll only get more desirable.
>Should I sell my Switch games, will they increase in value?
Never sell your games. Some day you'll want to play them again and regret giving up a good game for 10 bucks.
>Should I sell my Switch games
no, especially nintendo games
they either retain their value or increase as years go by especially pokemon
in 10 years sword and shit will be worth $100+ loose
I sold my Gamecube and all the games for 200 dollars when I was 17 and I have regretted it ever since. Keep your games a little bit of petty cash will never make up for what you are throwing away
>Nintendo showcased Epic’s impressive The Matrix Awakens Unreal Engine 5 tech demo
I really doubt this is running on a handheld, unless its in 640x360 dlss
But will the online be shit or not.
>Paying for online
Are they really naming it switch 2?
We don't know yet
I hope they do, or at the very least call it the "Nintendo Super Switch"
>Current gen
So you mean something that was released three years ago? It will be four years when the Switch 2 is released.
Nintendo late to the party as always.
I dunno i just hope its easy to pirate/emulate like switch and dab on denuvo morons
Tegra RCM vulnerability of the original was a fluke, Switch piracy would've never become a thing if it didn't exist. Probably won't happen twice, Nvidia likely got a few earfuls for it.
>DLSS
ah yes, interpolation, I love it.
That's Frame Generation and probably won't be available on Switch2 since it requires some unique hardware.
You'll probably just get Upscaling
>Zelda: Breath of the Wild, running at a higher framerate
shit "leaks". all fields retard
All I wonder is if the new games will still be playable on the existing switch.
Why would they? It's not a Switch Plus, it's a new console
>DLSS
so it's shit, got it
Really hope its not using dlss to achieve 1080, because it looks like blurry trash at that resolution
Console manufacturers overselling the capacity of their hardware is nothing new. Did you forget that the PS5 says "8k" on the fucking box? Lmao
You're getting a GPU on par with a PS4 pro, more memory than series s maybe but instead you're gonna end up super bandwidth limited (switch 1 already is), CPU better than last gen consoles, and maybe solid state storage is Nintendo doesn't garden gnome out. They might though and you end up with eMMC trash instead.
This is what you can realistically expect from the Switch 2.
>no new Zelda
>no new 2D Mario
>not launching it with Mario RPG remake or that Peach game
>instead they're going to launch it with fucking F-Zero
I just don't understand.
What if they launch it with a new 2D Zelda and 3D Mario?
Also what makes you think that new F-Zero will be on the Switch 2 and not Switch 1? I haven't kept up with the alleged leaks
will launch with metroid prime 4
Fuck you its our time FALCON PUNCH!
Is tradition, F-Zero was a tech demo game for SNES Mode-7 chip
people have been literally foaming at the mouth for a new F-Zero since GX anon, it being a launch title is actually a really good thing for that franchise.
Makes sense. You can show off the capabilities of a more graphically powerful chip with a game with futuristic sights and blisteringly fast speeds.
It would also lend itself to more photo-realistic shading and particle effects on some things, so it would be a good demo of how powerful the hardware can be
I think Nintendo is gonna have an OoT remake in the first year to fill the Zelda void. OoT really needs a proper remake anyway, the 3DS one was held back too much by the shitty hardware. A full 4k remake of OoT might rival BotW in popularity.
OoT is too dated for modern zoomies
the fact that there is only 3 swords (which may as well be 2) in the entire game will filter them hard
An F-Zero GX HD remake or especially a new F-Zero game is the single biggest game that would force me to buy this system day one.
comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
simply not possible
sounds like your coping anon.
It's definitely possible, the Series X and PS5 are already a couple years old and neither of those consoles were that impressive visually in the first place.
I was a long road, but Nintendo will finally make Sony pay for it ganacy and disrespect since the SNES CD player betrayal.
Playstation won't have a six.
Nah, it'll coast to a 6. Sony will live until games go subscription only and people lose their entire digital library and don't buy Playstations out of sunk cost. Like fucking Christ, people still buy Xbox consoles.
Said the sony pony
Of course there will be a PS6. It’s a different audience entirely. Sony gamers like stories they can push buttons to. That’s a big audience these days
Any more talks about the VR/AR displays?
>visuals comparable
Visuals is one thing but how about the performance?
As someone who has been emulating every Switch game I've been interested in so far (Tears of the Kingdom, Pokemon, Xenoblade 2 and 3, a couple others), if that's true I'll get a Switch 2 on release.
I'd still prefer the option to buy a version of the console made for TV play only, but as long as the thing isn't severely underpowered, I'm interested.
>mfw Switch 2 is fully backwards compatible and all the games that ran like shit on Switch is automatically 60fps.
I’d love to see Switch games look and perform better on Switch 2 but that really seems like wishful thinking…
From what I've read, Switch games would have to be patched to go beyond maxing out dynamic resolution and performance settings. Unless Nvidia figured out some crazy way to pull it off
It’s ridiculous that you people are still peddling these lies
Nintendo will bankrupt themselves chasing high fidelity visuals, they can barely make 480i/15fps Switch games.
The only sub 1080/720p game they had was Xenoblade 3 with upscaling otherwise room temp narrative my onions foy
>XSTAY
comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
Just don't get over-excited. It will still be a small device running at fraction of wattage PS5 runs at.
It will be comparable in a sense Ratchet and Clank on Steam Deck is comparable. Only that Switch 2 will be stronger than Deck and have DLSS to mask resolution difference
Someone post this pic yesterday...
>Unrevealed device in big acrylic Nintendo display
Anon...
>no d-pad again
Ninty would do this
"2 controllers out of the box" is one of the reasons behind Switch's success
I'd be ok with the stock joycons not having a dpad if nintendo would just fucking sell first party ones that did
looks cool
are those analog triggers or not?
looks like an evolution of the switch oled design so i could see this being legit
and the more rounded joy-cons make this look more comfortable to hold.
fake. screen on second console is bleeding off the edge of the console
It's the same screen type as the old curved screen Samsungs.
anon, if you look at images in photoshop it's clear the zelda images are cropped
Yes, but also if you look at the other one, it's clearly a curved screen, which can be bezzle-less along the curve.
sorry anon, your fake leak was caught
ps. next time just leave the screens blank. worked for that famous nx fake leak
It's dogshit
Yeah bro the new switch will totally have a 100% bezeless screen, something not even Apple can do
its rounded dumbass snoy
I really don't want a Switch with rounded glass edges. You can't put screen protectors on those
not to mention it would serve zero purpose unlike on phones where it did, even if it was more of a gimmick.
especially the device on the right side looks shopped, nice try
second device lines up with the switch 1 dev kit in style
could be legit bros, or extremely good attention to detail.
yeah I would love a "joy con pro" more than anything with nunchuck prongs and other things like analog triggers and arcade gun style recoil for feedback
>curved screen
DROPPED
Fucking retards, whooo now half the UI can be cut off
I'll just wait on Steam Deck 2
Stop playing with my autism or pay the price.
ALMOST AS POWERFUL AS PS4!
HERE WE GO S_O_Y_S_I_S_T_A_S
They really should sell it with a new animal crossing game if they really want a good launch
To those multiple, MULTIPLE people who were screaming the Switch 2 was a 2025, or even a 2026 machine...
I wanna call you a retard. A fool. I am RIGHT. And YOU are WRONG. When we debated late into the night, painfully replying to each other, until the thread archived. I want you to understand, in your heart of hearts. I am the VICTOR.
to be fair nobody expected switch 2 to be in a working condition until it was leaked via gamescom, it was reasonable to assume it would get announced, then made, then a year is them fucking around trying to get as much value out of the regular switch as possible.
The only thing it may be comparable to is the Series S. Even then, how aggresive is the DLSS gonna have to be to pull this off?
As a switch fan
A) even if the specs for the machine can potentially push graphics as good as a current gen title, the actual games on switch2 wont do this. The current trend is that the switch runs at 50% or less of its max clock speeds because it will overheat otherwise.
B)comparable means worse. It will have the potential to push graphics halfway between the ps4pro and the ps5 and, as stated above due to low clock speeds, actuall run like a slightly better ps4 for the average game and a ps4pro for very well optimized games.
I still think DLSS is being oversold. I don't doubt porting games will be easier than current gen Switch. I just think upscaling will be for 540p to 720p handheld and 720p to 4k in docked mode. Assuming the 4k upscaling won't have too much input latency. I rather have better textures and lighting at 720p than smeary images with shit framerate at 4k.
The texture quality will also be at mercy on how much flash storage next gen will have along with gamecard sizes, read speeds, and memory bandwith. I'm hoping memory bandwith gets an upgrade to Xbox Series S levels.
>DLSS as selling point
Loooooool that pile of shite can't even play gays on low preset. That would be 498.99 plus tax!
you make it sound like current gen consoles don't do the same thing
besides DLSS looks better than FSR 2
>but how can a handheld be as strong as a ps5????
It doesn't have to be. If it can get to 1/4 as strong (doable) and use DLSS it will be close enough for the average consumer to not care about the difference. With diminishing returns, gaps matter less and less. The PS4 being 4 times stronger than the switch meant 1080p PS4 games ran at like 540p on the switch, completely unacceptable. If the Switch can DLSS PS5 games up to 2k, so it's 4k PS5 vs 2k Switch 2, no one is gonna even notice except autistic people on the internet.
>PS5 Stronk
U wot now m8?
If it’s meant to run on a battery all of this is either bullshit or marketingspeak. I’m playing RDR and it looks fantastic (except for some geometry popping in the distance at times but it’s minimal). That level of graphics at consistent 60fps is all I want. Don’t need 4k, rtx at 1080p would probably be doable with latest nVidia tech. Don’t cheap out on RAM. That covers it for me.
RDR on switch is basically on par as the PS4 version
I agree 4k is a fucking meme, and 1080p is perfect especially on handheld
95% of normalfags who screech 4k can't even see the difference between 1080p and 4k
>visuals comparable to Sony‘s and Microsoft’s current-gen consoles.
That's not a high bar to clear. Those consoles are upscaling from as low as 720p with FSR, of course DLSS will look better.
it's doing it on an oversized cell phone that's impressive. Being able to carry something that powerful around with you is a huge selling point
I severely doubt you'll be able to use raytracing undocked.
Probably not, but raytracing will always be a gimmick until the hardware and software gets us away from it being a "cut my framerate in half" button. Looks good I fucked around with it for a couple days when I got my 3080 ti but have turned it off and never tried it again since, I'm more interested in this thing actually hitting and maintaining 1080p 60 in most games, if it manages that it's a success to me, especially if it can upscale to 2 or 4k docked
The switch 2 will have raytracing in handheld. Raytracing is the only area where the switch 2 actually punches above the PS5 and Xbox seris X. So they'll use raytracing aggressively in first party games to make them stand out more.
raytracing is a meme that no one cares about anymore. garden gnomevidia tried to push it as a big selling point for the 30 and 40 series cards yet its gotten really quiet around raytracing ever since people saw enough of it and concluded it looks shit when overdone and not noticably different from baked reflections when done "properly", yet still killing your performance for it. the current thing they are trying to shill are meme frames and meme resolution because they know they just cant make GPUs that actually hit 4k60 on modern titles natively.
those are nice gimmicks for handhelds and consoles, but especially handhelds. and considering how much use nintendo has already made of variable resolution its a no brainer that DLSS will play a big role on the switch 2. its a meme regardless and native would be better but beggars cant be choosers
The reason why no games really push raytracing is because almost every game is on ps4 still and ps4 cant do it. But with Nintendo's exclusives they don't need to worry about cross gen so they'll use every feature they can.
With DLSS the only meaningful advantages the PS5 will have are 60fps and faster load times. Both matter, but mainly to enthusiasts. The average person is fine with 30fps and can deal with longer loading screens. Hell, Animal Crossing is the second best selling switch game and the loading screen booting it up is like 3-4 minutes long.
Deck bros..
>>One ‘Switch 2’ demo is understood to have been an improved version of the Switch launch title Zelda: Breath of the Wild, running at a higher framerate and resolution than the original game did
So if they've already ported BOTW to the new console then that means backwards compatibility is unlikely. That's unfortunate
or maybe some switch 1 games would be updated/modified to take advantage of the switch 2's hardware
accurate pokemon leaker implied something like this
>or maybe some switch 1 games would be updated/modified
Which would mean they have to get ported and be resold at full price
It doesn't mean that at all. Even if they have backwards compatibility, they cant just upscale the game like that. Upscaling like that requires emulating it and if you've ever upscaled a game in an emulator you realize the ridiculous amount of power that takes compared to just running the game natively. To upscale BotW via emulation you're probably gonna need like a fucking 10tflop system. So if they wanted to show a 4k BotW that required them to port the game over natively.
>So if they wanted to show a 4k BotW that required them to port the game over natively.
Which means they would be reselling the BOTW port at full price.
>if you've ever upscaled a game in an emulator you realize the ridiculous amount of power that takes compared to just running the game natively
lol
lmao even
*turns on FSR or DLSS*
You cant just insert DLSS into a game via emulation. DLSS has to be integrated into the game's source code AKA a native port like I said.
They can sell it for full price, they can offer it for free or they can charge a small fee for it. It's entirely up to Nintendo how they want to handle graphical upgrades.
>They can sell it for full price, they can offer it for free or they can charge a small fee for it.
This is modern Nintendo who does paid online. They aren't going to leave money on the table
If you can just play the switch version of BOTW then no one will buy the "BOTW Deluxe Edition" port. Or a port of any other game, like TOTK.
>If you can just play the switch version of BOTW then no one will buy the "BOTW Deluxe Edition" port. Or a port of any other game, like TOTK.
Great, Nintendo wasn't planning to anyway when they said they weren't gonna make any DLC for TOTK. That means this is where BC comes in. That also means they've moved on to other projects. Maybe they're porting some Zelda games not on Switch yet to Switch 2.
I think the Zelda team is just skipping DLC so they can get the next game out in 5 years instead of 7, so it can actually be relevant on the switch 2. I'm sure they'll have some other company port TP or whatever.
Probably?
If Nintendo thought like you did they'd be making the DLC for TOTK right now.
That doesn't have anything to do with TOTK DLC.
It does because you're making it look like they'll only chase after money and nothing else. The only reason the Wii U and Switch don't have BC is because of the storage format. Otherwise Nintendo has had BC for almost every single console they've had.
>you're making it look like they'll only chase after money and nothing else.
For all we know Nintendo could've done a cost/benefit analysis and determined it was more profitable in the long run to immediately work on the new Zelda instead of DLC.
>Otherwise Nintendo has had BC for almost every single console they've had.
Nintendo also never had paid online before the Switch. Times change.
>For all we know
Yes but at the same time we know they've always done BC.
>Nintendo also never had paid online before the Switch. Times change.
Which is a lot cheaper than everyone else's. Also only adopted the $70 price point after everyone else's. Everyone else also has BC.
>Which is a lot cheaper than everyone else's.
Aaaaaand the copium begins.
Lemme know when it's as ass gouging as PS+
Admit? I know they are. But they're not doing that porting for one gen BS that Sony does when it's better to do BC and they can put that effort into something else, because like I said if Nintendo thought like you did, TOTK DLC would be in development.
>But they're not doing that porting for one gen BS that Sony does when it's better to do BC and they can put that effort into something else
Did your uncle who works at Nintendo tell you that?
>Did your uncle who works at Nintendo tell you that?
It's what your mom who was working at Nintendo told me when she was sucking my dick.
Cool. But classic games do get money since they even got Sega to buy in after a while with the Genesis offer.
No, the article says they played an improved version of BOTW. It even says there's no evidence of re-release. It only makes more sense that it's BC, since framerate and resolution are higher.
Eh, if you have pay $30 per BC game that's not much better
>But they're not doing that porting for one gen BS
The article literally says they've already ported BOTW
>Also only adopted the $70 price point after everyone else's.
So you admit Nintendo is just as greedy as everyone else?
>That means this is where BC comes in.
The won't have BC if they know it will take away profit from their ports.
>then that means backwards compatibility is unlikely
I missed the part where running at a higher frame and resolution meant no backwards comp.
the reason VC died is because they needed a draw for NSO, and classic games are good bait to dangle
unfortunately classic games generate no money for them now which is why we get shovelware instead of cool shit like Chrono Trigger and shit. It's hard to get Square on board to offer their games when they'll get paid pennies
'ick status?
i'm salivating here.
i need to be put into a medically induced coma and reawakened for the direct
Guys!
A better look at the "alleged" new model
From whom did these pictures originate
Photoshop Obviously. Probably switch emu running on a samsung galaxy and then pasted in with the rest.
They don't look real at all. Also the dimensions of the file makes me think they're edited.
MUCH better, but still shopped, IPS panel here 😛
i feel bad at how fake and ugly these pics are. here's a (you) from me in support of your effort to entertain
this looks really bad. There's now way they're downgrading from the sleek format they landed with switch.
looks soulful like the original DS
My guess for graphical upgrades is that they will let you buy the full game for $70 or the graphical upgrade digitally for $25-30 if you own the base game. That would maximize the profit from them because it lets them both keep selling the game as well as get some extra money from existing owners.
Sounds extremely gnomish
There is at least some justification in that natively porting the game to run much better on the switch would definitely take a significant amount of effort, but while that effort should be worth like 10 bucks like I said I'd expect more like 25-30 because they know they could get away with that much. I know myself that I would pay 25 for an upgrade to some of the biggest games like BotW, Smash, and Mario Kart 8.
>There is at least some justification in that natively porting the game to run much better on the switch would definitely take a significant amount of effort
Xbox lets you upgrade to series X versions of games for free.
For as much as you tendies love to suck Microsoft's dick, do you seriously not know that smart delivery exists???
Why would you let yourself get cucked out of $30 per port?
>Nintendo switch 2!
>It'll do 4k native!
>144fps every game
>All your favorite exclusives that nobody is developing will somehow be there for it!
>Every dead game you like that nobody else gives a fuck about will be there!
>Miyamoto will personally come suck your cock if you buy it!
Fucking stupid Nintendo spergs are the best marketing for Nintendo. I like Nintendo but come on let's be reasonable.
Snoy
I imagine this will also help Series S now having to deal with both S and Switch 2 being the lowest common denominator, hopefully it makes bad devs seethe and have dlss being more widely implemented for weak PCs.
I know the leaks are coming way to consistently to consider most of this fake anymore, but why the FUCK would nintendo care to chase after the """console war"""" at this point? Whats the endgame?
Third party developers are totally ignoring the Switch right now because of the insane power gap. That is not good
>I know the leaks are coming way to consistently to consider most of this fake anymore, but why the FUCK would nintendo care to chase after the """console war"""" at this point? Whats the endgame?
90% of the switch audience was adults between 20 and 40. These are the same people buying PS5s. Nintendo wants them to not buy the PS5, even if they would buy a switch 2 as well because they want all the software sales and online subscriptions to be sold on their console not a different one. By pushing for third party games it helps convince a lot of people to go switch 2 only instead of also getting a PS5 or even going exclusively PS5.
To ensure they have some third party support, obviously. Nintendo doesn't even need to match the PS5/XSX in raw power to get that, all they need to do is release something that can pass as a portable PS4.5 and they're set for the next 6-7 years. It's not like games now are visually any different from last gen either way, most of the power budget is wasted on 4K and AMD's garbage raytracing accelerators.
>PS5 level power
How can anyone believe this?
No one does. What people say is 1/4 the PS4 with DLSS to make it feel more like 1/2 which is "comparable." Note comparable does not mean exactly the same.
Nintendo's exclusives already looked great on the switch's dogshit hardware. I cant imagine how good they will look on a console that's 10x stronger.
I was pretty impressed by Doom and Doom Eternal tbh
That seemed more like a passion project than a business decision, I think Id wanted to know if they could do it