no seriously what was her fricking problem

no seriously what was her fricking problem

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women ruin everything, its in their nature.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You wish a woman ruined you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She did

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She had a woman moment.
      In fact, elden ring's backstory is just a series of woman moments making the world into more and more of a living hell.

      /thread

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not Milli

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we must kill chaos!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And yet men start all wars and commit 90% of crimes?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        moron. can you only see things in a macro level?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Somehow, women are much worse.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Throughout history, female rulers and rulers with female advisors have started far more wars.
        The sons of single mothers commit exorbitantly more crimes than those with a present father.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he doesn't know about the white feather campaign
        That was one of the biggest blackpills when it comes to women. If you don't make their pussy tingle, they literally want you to die in some ditch thousands of miles away.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >implying he doesn't think the same way about unnatractive women

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You'll gaslights and project, but won't say I'm wrong.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the white feather movement was started by a man though. And I guess women were more patriotic back then as well.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wish i were a teehee anime girl ong

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She had a woman moment.
    In fact, elden ring's backstory is just a series of woman moments making the world into more and more of a living hell.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dunno, Ranni seems like she may be woman momenting harder. Her actions lead to the undeath corruption, and who knows how fricked shit is if you take her ending.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ranni's plot is one of them woman moments I was referring to. Malenia brapping an entire country to death is the third.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ranni's moment leads to me dumping society and marrying a cute sex doll, though, that's pretty awesome.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, Ranni probably intended on overthrowing the golden order quick enough so Godwyn's death wasn't a problem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ranni seems like she may be woman momenting harder.
        Why are there still clueless idiots on here who still don't know that the EN translation for her dialogue regarding her ending was botched? Her actual ending isn't to frick the world over in an endless night, it's to take her new order away from the world and into the sky among the moon and stars so that 1. no one can tamper with her order because it'll be literally too far away from reach 2. the world wont be fricked whenever a god or outsider decides that they want to change the order due to her no longer being in the world and 3. allow people freedom from blind faith (because if you can't see your god and ideology physically in front of you like the Erdtree, then people will have to just believe through faith instead of obedience).

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this
          Ranni was the I'm checking out and going indawoods and living in a cabin with my new trad wife path.
          but she knew I wouldn't give it to her if her beta orbiter simps came along so she arranged for all of them to die first.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Black Knives turning on Ranni's servants is so strange. Ranni herself has no reason to command it, since she's already checked out and left everything in your hands and one of her last instructions to you is to tell Blaidd and Iji that she loves them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >tell Blaidd and Iji that she loves them.
              this is what made me turn away from Ranni
              what kind of cuck would want used goods?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fellas, is it cuckoldry if your girl has friends she cares about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gf has male friends

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I just wanted to do shitpost about the game assuming you have Tiche by that point and Tiche being a yandere... but thinking about it it there could actually be a connection there. You can only get to Tiche's gaol by doing Ranni's questline and it lines up with them getting attacked pretty well. Maybe the game assumes you will interact with the goal while up there and this likely event narratively causes the Black Knives to turn on Ranni's servants, for example they might be aware of it (which would make sense, since that's one of them in there or them stalking you in general) and they assume that you as Ranni's right hands were sent to clean up loose ends, so they react in kind.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's Alecto who was imprisoned, not Tiche. You get Tiche's ashes from Alecto, you never actually fight Tiche.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I was unclear on whether the black knives turned on her and her group, or if she had them killed because she knew she couldn't take them with her, maybe?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You'll get a spirit ash late into the game. The ash's mother is locked up in an evergaol, you'll get it by then.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She still has a woman understanding of how the world works. It's the "let them eat cake" type of solution. The land needed renaissance under strong rule, not godless anarchy, and the only reason to believe that the order will be safe from completely unknown powers far beyond our reach is her telling you that it'll magically work out for all eternity.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ranni doesn't cure any of the curses she creates, like the Death Blight, or handle matters like the spread of the Scarlet Rot. Furthermore, the very culture Ranni was raised in shows that people will still grovel to distant powers and beg for strength, and the Dark Moon she summons is a black hole eating a moon and star system, akin to the Primeval Current horrors Azur and Lusat saw. Additionally, the last people to worship the Dark Moon, the Nox, apparently got fricked over even in their underground cities and by Ranni despite wanting an "Age of the Stars" (courtesy of their armor descriptions). Furthermore, the Starlight Shards potions reveal that the "fates" the stars deal with are literal mind control, erasing someone's free will and turning them into a pawn. The Dark Moon is extremely oppressive regardless of what Ranni's wishful thinking was in the Japanese script.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Nox got fricked over by the Greater Will for making the Fingerslayer Blade. This is pretty spelled out.

            >the Dark Moon she summons is a black hole eating a moon and star system, akin to the Primeval Current horrors Azur and Lusat saw

            The frick are you on about?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's how the Nox got sent underground, but they're still suffering down in their cities and an Astel fricked them up to boot. Ranni then betrayed the Nox/Numen on the Night of the Black Knives by locking Alecto in an Evergaol on the Moonlight Altar. As for the Dark Moon, look at the thing -- the pitch-black center is pulling in stars and tearing them apart, and is reminiscent of the Eternal Darkness spell, which implies that a similar power brought an Eternal City to ruin. The Dark Moon is likely to enslave the Lands Between and possibly even eat it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The eternal cities were above ground before Marika/GW buried them alive

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Eternal Darkness item description notes that the Nox got fricked over even when underground, apparently by the very Dark Moon energies and Primeval Current magic that they worshiped.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when you put it that way it really jogs the noggin
      captcha

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >XD_PVP

        Perfect!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Marika
      >Ranni
      >Malenia
      >Rennala
      Any others?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tanith having the Volcano Manor kill tarnished because she wants that anaconda.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what did rennala do? besides, if you think that was bad, then what about fricking Rykard just letting himself be eaten by a serpent to spite the other gods?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Art imitates life

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >In fact, elden ring's backstory is just a series of woman moments making the world into more and more of a living hell.

      Hahahahah, ah man, now that you said that, That Scarlet Rot is going to completely take the land overtime, if you didn't choose the frenzy Flame, isn't it? All because she was losing to Radahn. Even in death she still won.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick is a woman moment

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Acting moronic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Letting emotions primarily dictate your actions

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As the stoic sages said:
          Men do that all the time too though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ok simp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It was all women!
      >Ignoring Godfrey trampling around the countyside because he's a bloodthirsty lunatic until Marika finally manages to put a collar on him, then sending him away.
      >Ignoring Radagon falling for an enemy, forming a family with her, then leaving in the most painful way possible to ensure the kingdom he had pacified through that marriage is going to rise up in arms.
      >Ignoring Morgott being such a cuck he walls off the city and prolongs the suffering of everyone in the Lands Between because he doesn't want to let any Tarnished actually do their fricking jobs.
      >Ignoring Mohg kidnapping and anal raping his little brother because he wants to mpreg him with his new dynasty that will supplant the gods.
      >Ignoring Radahn just kinda being a power hungry conqueror who really we know nothing about but he got his ass kicked by Morgott so that was definitely dumb, and we still have no idea why he even decided to stop everyone's fates, specially when his sister was the one that got harmed most by it.
      >Ignoring the ABSOLUTE DISASTER that is Rykard.

      Face it already, everyone in ER is a frick up.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ignoring Radagon falling for an enemy, forming a family with her, then leaving in the most painful way possible to ensure the kingdom he had pacified through that marriage is going to rise up in arms.

        Remind me who Radagon also is again?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          just some guy before being combined with marika because the two fingers willed it

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One of Marika's generals that got fused with her but maintained his own personality, as proved by the fact even by the end of the game he's still trying to reforge the ring she shattered.

            They were always the same person.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep. Radagon is Marika.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, but he wasn't always her

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was though. Marika is Radagon. When you get to her boss fight you see her transform into him they always shared the same body you only learn it in the boss fight though.
                There is a sidequest about it you'll find it when you talk to the turtle pope.

                ffs

                Comet Azur:
                Legendary sorcery devised by Azur, primeval sorcerer.

                Fires a tremendous comet in a torrent akin to the distant starry expanse, the place said to be the origin of glintstone.
                Hold to continue releasing the sorcery's power.

                When Azur glimpsed into the primeval current, he saw darkness. He was left both bewitched and fearful of the abyss.

                Founding rain
                The eldest primeval sorcery, said to have been discovered by an
                ancient astrologer. A sorcery of legendary status.

                Summons a dark cloud of stars overhead. Shortly after, the cloud
                will release a violent deluge of star rain. This sorcery can be cast
                while in motion. Charging increases potency.

                Thought to be the founding glintstone sorcery. The glimpse of the
                primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the
                stars' amber rained down on this land.

                Stars of rui:
                Legendary sorcery devised by Lusat, primeval sorcerers.

                Fires twelve dark shooting stars that pursue the target. This sorcery can be cast while in motion. Charging increases potency.

                When Lusat glimpsed into the primeval current, he beheld the final moments of a great star cluster, and upon seeing it, he too was broken.

                where is the meteor breaking into 12 parts?

                >where is the meteor breaking into 12 parts?
                >When Lusat glimpsed into the primeval current, he beheld the final moments of a great star cluster, and upon seeing it, he too was broken.
                The spell isn't 12 parts by accident, it is 12 because the comet broke into 12 parts.
                >Thought to be the founding glintstone sorcery. The glimpse of the primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the stars' amber rained down on this land.
                This one talks about 1 part being the elden stars by the inclusion of the amber part.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The glimpse of the primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the stars' amber rained down on this land.
                Why do the shitposters deny that the gods are tulpas again?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, i did all that like 5 times, there's no evidence thay Radagon was always Marika

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you'll also find it by following Goldmask's plot and using Law of Regression on that same statue in Leyndell.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Either way anon will find out what other anons are talking about when he plays the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The spell isn't 12 parts by accident, it is 12 because the comet broke into 12 parts.
                What fricking comet are you talking about? You arr just making shit up at this point

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >When Lusat glimpsed into the primeval current, he beheld the final moments of a great star cluster
                >Fires a tremendous comet in a torrent akin to the distant starry expanse, the place said to be the origin of glintstone.
                >Thought to be the founding glintstone sorcery. The glimpse of the primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the stars' amber rained down on this land.
                >It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.
                The text talks about the primeval current spitting a comet out from it, then that comet breaks into 12 parts. The beast came on a comet fragment.
                This isn't hard to get anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The text talks about the primeval current spitting a comet out from it, then that comet breaks into 12 parts
                No it doesn't. You are reaching. It talks about stars' amber and then the origin of glintstone. You also don't know what a star cluster is and it has nothing to do with your headcanon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                One of the spells is a comet anon. And we see that beings are coming from the comets that crash down in game there are numerous meteor impact sites all over the landscape.
                It isn't headcanon, you are just dumb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The beings that come out of the comets are nothing like the Elden Beast, though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no, but it's safe to assume the EB reached the lands between in the same way

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's just as safe to assume that the EB was sent by the GW as described by the game.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, all the "gods" in are ayyys

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The game describes that sending as being part of a 12 part meteor.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't. The only thing that is said is that the GW sent a golden star bearing the beast. You are associating that with the amber fragmentation of a star mentioned in a completely separate spell. You have conjecture that you are passing off as canon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Amber fragments are related to the elden stars. Read the lore on the fragments.
                There is no conjecture, you are just dumb. Stop replying to me with your song and dance I know it will go on forever.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >There is no conjecture
                There 100% is. You absolutely are reaching
                What fragments are you even talking about?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I feel so bad for them to be honest

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring

                This is literally all that the game says on the arrival of the beast, directly and concretely. ANYTHING else you attribute to this from other descriptions is conjecture unless there is explicit mention of the Beast, which there isn't.

                You get nothing, good day sir.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >bleh blah boo baa blee blah
                typical loretroony

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They are so desperate.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Now you are just being equivocal because you cannot accept that the whole twelve comets thing does not follow at all from the premises.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The beings that come out of the comets are nothing like the Elden Beast, though.

                trying too hard lil sis

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your concession. Try not to jump to unfounded conclusions.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's nice darling.
                Why does the 'cord get trapped into this cycle of shitposting the same topics?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have no idea what you are talking about. Now stop pretending to be female by calling me "darling" it's weird

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everyone else does though. (you) playing dumb doesn't matter.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's called asking questions and refusing to take bullshit conclusions for an answer
                Now stop doing this same tired troon/cord/whatever tactic of denial and accept that this is just a game and you don't have to make far-reaching judgments about its lore.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats awesome champ.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This one talks about 1 part being the elden stars by the inclusion of the amber part.
                This isn't even a reach. It's straight up delusion.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order.
              >Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god.
              >Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This makes sense when you remember that Marika is Radagon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                radagon is a different person that was ubergrafted onto marika

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >leal
                ...you forgot which languague you were speaking?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a textual quote, take it up with From, not me.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh, right you are

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its shakesperean and comes from a scottish word, you fricking homosexual

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a textual quote, take it up with From, not me.

                AMERIGANS SPOTTED

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >just some guy
              Never was. Why do you think he stitched the Preceptors' mouths shut with his sewing kit?

              its vague

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >just some guy
            Never was. Why do you think he stitched the Preceptors' mouths shut with his sewing kit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One of Marika's generals that got fused with her but maintained his own personality, as proved by the fact even by the end of the game he's still trying to reforge the ring she shattered.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          OLD WOMAN YURI

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The crucial difference is that while the male characters definitely have failings, they are mostly their own or contained to their immediate social circle. When the female characters frick up, they frick things up for EVERYONE.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only one who did that was Marika. Ranni indeed just tried to contain it to her own circle, and even formed her own faction and openly admits to having planned the Night of Black Knives so the GO knows who to blame instead of chasing everyone else. She was trying to wage a war, not planning to provoke Marika into destroying the whole world, just couldn't have known Marika was fricking insane.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Intentions do not undo the reach of a frickup. The Night of the Black Knives was catastrophic to the whole of the Lands Between, even if Ranni did not mean it to be. In fact, it caused TWO calamities.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Intentions do not undo the reach of a frickup.
              It not being your frickup at all does.
              Or do you blame World War II on Hitler's art teacher?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Godwyn becoming super death cancer most certainly was Ranni's fault.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe, but she wasn't at fault for said super deah cancer being buried exactly where he'd do the most damage.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She made it necessary to bury him at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was a double black-knife assisted suicide. Ranni gets freed of her worldly obligations, and Godwyn gets to be the Prince of Death because he was a Gigachad with nothing else to strive for.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, the suicide where his beaten and broken body is held aloft by his assassins while further assassins sink a god-killing blade into his back and painstakingly carve a rune into his flesh with it. Totally planned and willing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wasnt godwyn strong af? How the hell did he get beaten by a few women in cloaks? Was it cause of the death powers or whatever?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He fell for the oldest trick in the book. There's a reason all the black knife assassins are women.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Killing demigods is hard even when they desire it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There would be no need to harm him beyond carving the rune if he was complicit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Radagon and Morgott are arguably fricking shit up equally as much if not more. They're forcing the carcass of a dead order to remain in place. Melania actually had decent intentions in trying to let Miquella lead, but then Mohg fricked that up

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's only one guy who gets it, trust him for a new age!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I striding with Dagoth Ur!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This dude fricks. He got a dozen kwama kweens on speed dial.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of the realest nwah's that ever lived

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love villains like him. Who are objectively correct about damn near everything they believe, but then they go do crazy shit like make everyone immortal zombie slaves with the power of a giant prehistoric Mecha.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She was sick of being a slave to a corrupt order, if you weren't a conservative you'd understand

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And so you elect an even more corrupt order

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is absolutely nothing in this game that gives one any clue as to any certain motive behind her breaking the ring. The only thing we get is that some people say that Marika was driven to the brink when Godwynn died

      corrupt order? my man, that was her order.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It wasnt hers. She was a pawn

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It was created by her when she confined the rune of death which made her and her offspring immortal. It's entire founding principle is that she is the one true god

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    she had it all planned out but didnt account for her demigod kids being morons that couldnt follow through with the plan

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Warhammer 40K

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She will be punished by forced marriage with one of my twisted creations

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to think of any characters that made selfless or at least not stupid decisions. Boc? Kenneth Haight? Nepheli? Hewg? Roderika? Miriel? Maybe Rya? I think that's it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      J.C the undead hunter guy or something

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I try to think about characters of the game and not a single thing comes to mind, because nothing was explained in the game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Goldmask wanted to fix the order or w.e. while his homosexual follower had a religious crisis.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Alexander: I WISH TO BECOME A GREAT WARRIOR, SO I'M GOING TO TRAIN AT FARUM AZULA
        >Anon, clinically moronic: HURRR WHAT DOES THAT MEME STOP SPEAKING IN RIDDLES

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The old Albernaic dude who gives you the half-medallion because he thinks you're a cool dude
      Latenna who offs herself so she can become a ghost warrior for you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The dude that goes to help in Jarburg, right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People forget about Diallo because his quest always sucked and was finished after release. He has the best selfless ending in the game, a real hero in the end (since we never get to see his bad stuff from VM).

        Yura was genuinely helpful and nice. He really did just want to caution the player against going down the dragon cult path as it leads to suffering. No ulterior motive or anything, just good advice from 1 traveler to another. He hunts redmen.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Her split personality was a double schizo that had red headed children who all wanted to destroy everything.
    Miquella is the actual villain of the game. A flaming homosexual that wanted to fugg his half brother and tried to cause a super eclipse to destroy everything so that he could rebuild it as his dream world.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't you mean Mohg?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No Miquella really likes Godwyn

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Miquella wanted to usurp the golden order with his Alloyed Gold ideology, which involved making a new divine tree. He's like a Puritan compared to a catholic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No Miquella really likes Godwyn

      How do you know he really likes Godwyn and what do you reckon about the eclipse?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Castle Sol and the items you find there tell the story.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think gloam eyed queen got shat on the worse: gets betrayed by the godskin homies, jobbed to a black dog and got her rune of death stolen so Marika's crazy ass plan of becoming the sole arbiter of true death

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Woman moments into woman moments. Ranni is a strong boss woman who don't need no 2 fingers so she murders her perfect brother to get out of it. Out of everyone it had to be the perfect man. This drives marika insane and she busts the ring fricking shit even more. Then malenia comes along rotting everything. Rannis mom turns into an almost comatose moron. It's a series of men trying to fix problems women created: The Game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/fubUvDB.jpg

      no seriously what was her fricking problem

      This is how you know it was written by GRRM.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and that's why we love him

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he'll do anything to not finish those books before he dies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we
          normalgays BE GONE

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In many ways this is just draped over the foundation set in DaS2 (the game that ER tries to remake) that GRRM had no involvement in.
        Vendrick does the same things that Marika does (going to war with giants, shattering the cycle, fleeing into seclusion, trying to split off the second person that's been grafted to him, etc.) and is presumably one of the better preserved plot beats, yet it is difficult to describe him as having a woman moment.

        We don't know, and there is a high chance not even FromSoftware knows.

        It's so blatant that the game is unfinished it's not even funny, but people are so deep in the "MUH ENVIRONMENTAL STORYTELLING" they cannot tell the difference between content being cut and something being intentionally ambiguous.

        When you still have content in game files or the Network Test (which happened 3 months before release, every single AAA game ever at this point is in just finishing/polishing stages) telling a completely different story and talking about completely different characters, something is wrong.
        >Radahn, Slayer of Giants
        >Gideon Orphiner
        >Hoarah Loux, the Goldmask
        >Lady Luyila, Deathbed Companion
        etc. Those are all voiced lines you can access in game files.

        It also answers why there is a PowerPoint intro instead of CGI (when EVERY SINGLE FROM GAME had it after Demon Souls). They simply changed so much they couldn't use that anymore because it didn't make any sense.

        This is ludicrously common in their games. Even DaS1 used to have Oscar take the role of a rival character.
        It only got worse as they moved to a development model that allowed for maximum reshuffling of areas, characters and enemies. DaS3 completely changes which areas are adjacent to each other (Farron woods would have likely been stuck close to the Dragon area based on how the questlines seem to develop) and one of the major antagonists is relegated to being just some midboss.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Vendrick had a man moment, he was in love with Nashandra and listened to her about invading the Giants across the sea, who we can assume were just fricking minding their own business.
          > trying to split off the second person that's been grafted to him, etc
          You mean Nashandra? They weren't grafted.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            DaS2 seems to vaguely point towards souls differing from the person holding them and has them persist through cycles, taking similar actions over and over. Vendrick splits off the one he held and hides it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh that's right, he leaves it in a room in Amana. Interesting.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika is a projection, an illusion, used as a placeholder for the Elden Beast to frick around with the Lands Between’s social order. Marika (Elden Beast) shattered the Elden Ring because it had children with Godfrey, First Elden Lord and Rennala and they turned against the Elden Beast and tried to become the big boss.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >cosmic ruleset of the entire world

    wrong, that is not what the elden ring is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >coping and seething, the macro

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Destined Death is heretical because it can permanently destroy souls and bodies, which would cut off the flow of souls to the Erdtree and/or prevent it from resurrecting it's chosen ones' bodies (such as gods/demigods). The demigods and creatures with golden eyes are immortal because the Erdtree prevents death from sticking. Ranni had to kill herself with Destined Death because jumping off the tower wouldn't stick; the Erdtree would just fix up her Empyrean body custom designed to be controllable by the Golden Order.

      If the rule in the Golden Order is: you're born and live > your body dies (or doesn't if you're blessed) > you "return to the Erdtree" by getting buried at it's roots so it can drink your soul, then Those Who Live In Death exist because the roots are choked by Godwyn's infection so the souls linger resulting in.... undead.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i'm not reading all that

      this is the Elden Ring

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but Miyazaki says the ring literally defines the world itself

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why wouldn't it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people need to start realizing that fromsoft stories are quickly cobbled together from a bunch of jumbled parts. Bosses, areas, characters and subplots get hurriedly arranged and re-arranged in development and then a bunch of item description filler gets added in an attempt to create some kind of structure

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and it's fun to piece it together

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          paranoid delusions aren't "piecing it together"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            is it really piecing things together if the community can't agree on what the plot really is?

            >quit having fun!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >fun
              >delusional rambling
              lol get a life

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Arguing with an Anon on a basket weaving forum about the plot format of an action-RPG on a Tuesday
                lmao like you can talk about having a life

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not arguing, I'm just calling you a moron. Keep up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >getting angry that people enjoy games
                grim

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                says the sperg screeching at people to believe his delusions

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >clicks lore thread
                >"noooo stop discussing lore!" "you have no life! nooooo"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your delusions that you demand other people believe isn't lore

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          is it really piecing things together if the community can't agree on what the plot really is?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >is it really piecing things together if the community can't agree on what the plot really is?
            The plot can be "X is good and Y is bad" and the community would still disagree and argue.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's why I prefer Sekiro, more of an actual plot and less cobbled together strings (but that is still a part), helps that it has a definitive good/true end too so its less bullshit with ending arguments.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no one asked homosexual

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, shura ending

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, and it's perfect to create atmosphere because everything discovered stays in the back of the player mind fricking with his perception of the game. Its functionally like actual poetry
        But as always happens, most people are morons with a loaf of concrete for a brain and can't accept ambiguity leaving unclear as it is
        I'm 100% sure that dlc is going to jumble shit even more instead of giving any resolution and I can already imagine autists starting to build mental acrobatics academies to find a solution of that 2+2=5

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deities getting bored so they frick everything up oh and also frick everyone else btw lol

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think she did nearly as bad as Amelie. Dumb b***h tried upgrading the internet and kicked off the apocalypse instead.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Elden Ring had made the gods incredibly arrogant and so she was trying to fix it by ending their lives
    The spanner in the works was that she didn't appreciate how her kids and step kids would end up scrambling for the last bits of divinity in an attempt to further their own means. She didn't appreciate that the destruction of the Elden Ring, or at least its re-writing, would result in a succession crisis to replace it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you meaning to say "anticipate"?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She needs to be corrected by my wiener.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden ring’s story is frickin moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love Dark Souls' story but just can not bother with this one for some reason 😐
      the game itself also bored me, I guess is why

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She realized that eternal life fricking blows

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hopefully the DLC will add more gods!!!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for real though I wanna learn more about the Twin Bird God and the dude pointing at each catacombs (Rosus?)

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sad her kid died

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if you give her actions the most generous possible interpretation, that she wanted the world to become better than before, the endings show that she was probably still in the wrong.
    The possible endings are:
    >the pre-shatter status quo but worse
    >the pre-shatter status quo but permanent
    >everything is on fire
    >everything is pee pee poo poo
    >and two (Fia's and Ranni's) which are ambiguous at best
    Even if you view the ambiguous ones optimistically, that's still only a 1/3 chance of improvement, 1/3 chance of status quo, 1/3 chance of hell on earth

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika found out that the entire world unser the Golden Order is just a giant factory farm for the Greater Will. The Erdtree grows by eating the souls of the dead, that's why people are buried in catacombs against the roots of the tree.

    She wanted that tie severed, not purely for altruistic reasonsof course, but at least partly to keep the everyone from ending up as nothing but Elden Beast Chow.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marika specifically uplifted the Erdtree as the center of the Golden Order, she specifically designed the system you described of Erdtree reincarnation.

      I wish people would stop framing the Golden Order as the Greater Will's design, the GW let a Dragon king and its Goddess lazily rule a world while letting insane death priests torture souls in ghost fire for fun, it does NOT give a frick about how order is delivered.

      This is of course, unless you try overthrowing the Elden Ring like the Nox, whom Ranni's Plan was a continuation of.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Marika hated the fact that the Elden Beast ranked above her and was holding her accountable, so she wanted it gone. Marika's plans had the goal of removing the Elden Beast from the picture, and that's why she schemed everything involving the Tarnished and shattered the Elden Ring.

      Destined Death is heretical because it can permanently destroy souls and bodies, which would cut off the flow of souls to the Erdtree and/or prevent it from resurrecting it's chosen ones' bodies (such as gods/demigods). The demigods and creatures with golden eyes are immortal because the Erdtree prevents death from sticking. Ranni had to kill herself with Destined Death because jumping off the tower wouldn't stick; the Erdtree would just fix up her Empyrean body custom designed to be controllable by the Golden Order.

      If the rule in the Golden Order is: you're born and live > your body dies (or doesn't if you're blessed) > you "return to the Erdtree" by getting buried at it's roots so it can drink your soul, then Those Who Live In Death exist because the roots are choked by Godwyn's infection so the souls linger resulting in.... undead.

      In addition to the Great Rune of the Unborn, Marika reviving the Tarnished via Grace shows that the Erdtree doesn't eat souls/spirits.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Somebody DID kill her kid. It tends to do that to women. It turned my sister into a completely different person when it happened to her

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    may chaos take the world

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't she just want to be free?
    I can respect that motive. If the happiness of everybody else in the entire universe depends entirely on your unwilling suffering in chains forever, then it is your right and duty to do everything in your power and commit every cardinal sin possible if it brings you even a single half-step closer to breaking your shackles.

    Though I can't really blame people for trying to keep her chained, either, fricked up thought it is.

    Hmm, what a profound conundrum. Whichever way the wind blows, something remains amiss, and there's no way to reconcile or compromise. If only there were some way to fix all of these problems in a way that ensures no more suffering takes place...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody forced her to break the Elden Ring and ruin everything, it's not like she's "free" in any of the endings either since she either straight up dies permanently or is restored and used as a conduit for the ring.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but fricking over your captors is a good and righteous goal even if it doesn't actually improve your own situation.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody is holding her "captive" until she tards out, she gained power by fighting and conquering. Trying to Marika into a dindu is one of many moronic loreletisms. The GW is barely involved in the world, and fricked off long before the game began, and its only real rules are
          1. don't break the Elden Ring
          2. don't do whatever heretical shit the Nox were up to that got them sent to the shadow realm

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except she didn't want to be the conduit for the GW anymore, and the GW trying to force her to do exactly that is literally the entire point of the game. Every ending where you restore the Elden Ring has you become Marika's consort, in whatever form she is left in, because that's how the GW operates, that's how the GW imposes the Golden Order.

            It's not really a dindu nuffin issue, either. I think anybody who understands the situation, and that their own peaceful/comfortable existence is being threatened because of Marika's actions, would try to stop her from fricking up the Elden Ring. That would be the reasonable and heroic thing to do from the perspective of everybody else in the world. But that doesn't change the fact that Marika is a slave.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              wow. so the GW is the patriarchy that must be destroyed

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, there were three successors picked if Marika wanted to step down from being the god of the Golden Order.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dying is a freedom

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Man. That image is really speaking to me right now. Thanks for posting it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tumbling down, tumbling down

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    where

    is

    the

    dlc

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LET
      HIM
      COOK

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >finally announced
      >no longer a dlc
      >elden ring: miles morales
      >$80

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We don't know, and there is a high chance not even FromSoftware knows.

    It's so blatant that the game is unfinished it's not even funny, but people are so deep in the "MUH ENVIRONMENTAL STORYTELLING" they cannot tell the difference between content being cut and something being intentionally ambiguous.

    When you still have content in game files or the Network Test (which happened 3 months before release, every single AAA game ever at this point is in just finishing/polishing stages) telling a completely different story and talking about completely different characters, something is wrong.
    >Radahn, Slayer of Giants
    >Gideon Orphiner
    >Hoarah Loux, the Goldmask
    >Lady Luyila, Deathbed Companion
    etc. Those are all voiced lines you can access in game files.

    It also answers why there is a PowerPoint intro instead of CGI (when EVERY SINGLE FROM GAME had it after Demon Souls). They simply changed so much they couldn't use that anymore because it didn't make any sense.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tried to break away from being ruled by fricking aliens

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do i save Malenia and sex her

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    matriarchy was a mistake

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Woman.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same problem that Ranni and Miquella had: they all got sick of the Greater Will's bullshit. Ranni wanted to escape it, Miquella wanted to replace it, and Marika wanted to destroy it. They could've all worked together, but Radagon stood at the center of it all, keeping them apart. So they each developed their plans independently, leading to chaos and ruin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds like a better story than what we got, because there is no factual information that Radagon did anything. There are items that imply Radagon knew Miquella well, so he definitely didn't stand in his way.

      This notion of Radagon being an agent of chaos, siring children, fricking Marika, all for the sake of it would have been kino.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same problem that Ranni and Miquella had: they all got sick of the Greater Will's bullshit. Ranni wanted to escape it, Miquella wanted to replace it, and Marika wanted to destroy it. They could've all worked together, but Radagon stood at the center of it all, keeping them apart. So they each developed their plans independently, leading to chaos and ruin.

        You are all morons. Marika created Radagon as part of herself, in order to fight in the Liurnian wars. When she realized the Golden Order was flawed and couldn't help ward off other Outer Gods, she planned for Radagon to bridge Golden Order faith with the knowledge of the Stars in order to understand and possibly have a plan against the Elden Beast. That's why when Radagon returned and "married" Marika he created the new Golden Order, which he clings to, deying Marika, her other self. But Radagon was never a God unlike Marika and can't actually mend the Elden Ring that Marika shattered when Godwyn was half-killed.
        Miquella and Malenia were part of Marika original plan to replace the Erdtree with a new Tree and Order, the Shattering wasn't and was caused by Ranni as part of her own plot against the Erdtree

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Marika always planned to shatter the Elden Ring, she created her scheme involving the Tarnished so that they'd return during a time of great upheaval, defeat the Elden Beast, and mend the Elden Ring. Also, Marika created Golden Order Fundamentalism, as per Melina's quoted words at the Minor Erdtree Church. Radagon was only brought into Golden Order Fundamentalism after the fact.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why did she shatter it if she was planning on it being reforged?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              To reestablish the Golden Order after the Elden Beast was vanquished. At the very least, it would rebalance the functionality of the world.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You forget that Marika sent the Tarnished away which most presume was because she was always going to shatter the ER.

            That's irrelevant, Marika would have NEVER shattered the Elden Ring before the Haligtree was ready, she created Melina for the Haligtree with the clear purpose of being a maiden to Miquella and restore Death and there's Oracles there from the Capital. Ranni specifically forced her hand by getting Godwyn stuck in non-death, hoping to advance her plot for the Age of Stars by disrupting the transition between Golden Order and Unalloyed Gold

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >she created Melina for the Haligtree with the clear purpose of being a maiden to Miquella and restore Death and there's Oracles there from the Capital
              That's very interesting.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The biggest ER redpill is that Ranni is a literal cold-blooded terrorist and worse than any Outer God

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Melina is the Gloam Eyed Queen though
              This is basically confirmed, so all theories need to be centered around this fact.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh gloam eyed queen
                prove it aside from her eye changing color in the one ending

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >she created Melina for the Haligtree with the clear purpose of being a maiden to Miquella and restore Death and there's Oracles there from the Capital
              That's very interesting.

              The biggest ER redpill is that Ranni is a literal cold-blooded terrorist and worse than any Outer God

              >and, despite being so core to the story, is never fully clarified.
              It is, Marika specifically calls Radagon her own other self, but that he was never a God, unlike her. He pops out of nowhere in Liurnia to fight for the Golden Order at the head of the Golden Host, wielding what the game named Marika's hammer. He's aprt of herself that Marika created in order to fight, and conveniently fricks Rennala when Marika needed to study the Stars and merge Intelligence and Faith to better understand the Golden Order and specifically the Elden Beast. The issue is, Radagon and Marika have two personalities and Radagon gets attached to his precious new and reformed Golden Order, while Marika sent Radagon only with the plan to destroy and replace it. It's so blatant Mitsubishi himself is probably laughing his ass off reading dumbass gaijin theories.

              Shattering the Elden Ring did absolutely nothing to stop the Death Blight, so Marika wouldn't have any reason to do that if her goal was to wait until the Haligtree was done. Furthermore, the Haligtree likely wouldn't be ready in general without Miquella receiving Great Runes, considering that his plan seemingly hit a wall and he was having to use his own blood to nurture it as a boost. Additionally, if the Two Fingers acknowledged Miquella's abandonment of the Golden Order for the Haligtree, then Marika potentially missed out on just making Miquella the successor. Marika herself was also quite prejudiced, so she probably didn't care about the Haligtree so much as she cared about a situation where Miquella would age to adulthood and succeed her. Melina's mission is to burn the Erdtree, as is the mission of the Finger Maidens, indicating that Marika anticipated that she and the Elden Ring would likely be imprisoned within the Erdtree. Restoring the Elden Ring also innately improves the health of the Erdtree, even in the Age of Fracture ending, and nothing implies the Erdtree has to be destroyed for the Haligtree to do its thing.

              Also, Ranni has no reason to cover for Marika if they were both part of the Night of the Black Knives. If Ranni, who despises Marika over what happened to Rennala, says she did all of the Night of the Black Knives, then it's safe to say that Ranni is telling the truth about that. Marika only chose to shatter the Elden Ring at that time because the demi-gods might otherwise kill each other before a proper war that would make them strong enough to possibly defeat the Elden Beast could begin. As for Radagon, he probably just wanted to go back to his normalcy, since he started as a fragment of Marika. Being a god and in charge of the Golden Order was Radagon's goal, but the person he was chipped off from had very different goals, meaning Radagon was basically screwed.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Shattering the Elden Ring did absolutely nothing to stop the Death Blight, so Marika wouldn't have any reason to do that if her goal was to wait until the Haligtree was done.
                Marika did the Shattering on order for the Tarnished to restore Death. Miquella is tryong to use the Rune of Death to resurrect Godwyn and failed to give him a true death with the Golden Epitaph, which shows the limits of the Golden Order similarly to Malenia's scarlet rot and the need for Unalloyed Gold. Restoring the fate of Demigods and Death for all absolutely solves the issue of Godwyn. It's the single biggest difference between Age of Order and Age of Fracture. Age of Fracture is actually an eternal struggle with warring Demigods constantly at war
                >Furthermore, the Haligtree likely wouldn't be ready in general without Miquella receiving Great Runes
                Which is why Malenia fights on his behalf.
                >Additionally, if the Two Fingers acknowledged Miquella's abandonment of the Golden Order for the Haligtree, then Marika potentially missed out on just making Miquella the successor.
                The whole point of the Haligtree is to replace the GO
                >Marika herself was also quite prejudiced
                Wrong, both want to find a way to ward off Outer Gods
                >Melina's mission is to burn the Erdtree, Restoring the Elden Ring also innately improves the health of the Erdtree
                Weven in the Age of Fracture ending, and nothing implies the Erdtree has to be destroyed for the Haligtree to do its thing.
                Wrong, the Age of Despair, the Age of Duskborn and the Age of Stars don't. Two of them even show the Erdtree as a grey dead husk. Melina's mission is to restore Death and guide a new lord. Burning the Erdtree is just the necessary step to achieve that
                >Also, Ranni
                Ranni is acting against Marika. Marika shattered the Elden Ring because shattering the Elden Ring was necessary to save Godwyn and replace the Golden Order, it's THAT simple. You can't restore the Rune of Death without first breaking down the Ring

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Marika didn't have to shatter the Elden Ring to add the Rune of Death to it, she could have just ordered Maliketh to hand it back over at any time. Nothing implies that the Elden Ring has to be disassembled to add a rune to it, let alone shattered to pieces. Heck, the surgical removal of part of the Great Rune of the Unborn to gift to Rennala implies that precise modifications are indeed possible. Malenia does fight for Miquella, but the point is that Marika needs to shatter the Elden Ring to create a scenario where Miquella can get any Great Runes whatsoever. If the Two Fingers have acknowledged Miquella's rejection of the Golden Order, then he can't be picked as successor and just handed the Elden Ring. Marika wanted to ward off certain outer gods, but her behavior still betrays that she was prejudiced. The Age of Fracture, the most neutral resoration of the Erdtree, has it start glowing slightly gold again as a gold sky is above Leyndell. It takes the Dung Eater, Fia, or the Frenzied Flame trying to make things worse on purpose to harm the tree via corrupt mending runes or blatant arson. We don't see the state of the Erdtree itself in the Age of Stars ending.

                That's not true at all, Melina's quest is to guide a Lord (originally Miquella, with the Shattering and Miquella losing she lost her purpose until she found the Tarnished) to succeed Marika and bring death to the Lands Between. She only later learns that she has to burn the Erdtree for that to happen. Her purpose wasn't to burn the Erdtree, but as she says "aids her in the very act". She can use the power of the great runes, including that of the Fell Giant, so she can burn the Erdtree with the Forge.
                Her purpose was to use the Rune of Death
                [...]
                Torrent, Melina name file and dialogue and so on. The Twin prodigy was LITERALLY bred by Marika with that specific purpose to use Intelligence and Faith and create a new Perfected (Unalloyed) Order, an imitation of which is then established by Radagon (a fragment/part of Marika she used as tool for the process) when reforming the old Golden Order. That's the whole point of Radagon and Rennala marriage and union when he was still acting on behalf of her other self (Marika).

                Nothing would have prevented Melina from guiding Miquella right when the Shattering began, but instead she follows Torrent's lead looking for a proper master. The Lone Wolf Spirit Ashes also note that Torrent's former master was a Tarnished, something Miquella is not, so Miquella's affiliation with Torrent is yet another factor, if that's even the same spirit steed in the promotional artwork. Melina has burned once before and likely knew her mission at the time, and she's only playing the part of a Finger Maiden, which entails burning the Erdtree, as we learn through Bernahl's armor set (minus the helmet). The Fell God has no runes to work with, Melina and the Finger Maidens just plain burn as fuel.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Marika didn't have to shatter the Elden Ring to add the Rune of Death to it, she could have just ordered Maliketh to hand it back over at any time.
                Nonsense, not all Great Runes were in the Elden Ring to begin with. The Rune of Death for example never was and there's no source about the Unborn one being from the Elden Ring. It's not an USB you can just plug in and out. The process of mending runes signifies a new Age.
                You also forget that Shadowbound beasts don't act on the best interests of their Empyreans.
                >If the Two Fingers have acknowledged
                They don't need to acknowledge anything. Miquella rejected the Golden Order on her pursuit to create the unalloyed Gold with the Haligtree, like the Erdtree before replaced the Crucible.
                >The Age of Fracture, the most neutral resoration of the Erdtree, has it start glowing slightly gold again as a gold sky is above Leyndell.
                Which is not the ending that Marika wanted for the Lands Between
                >Nothing would have prevented Melina from guiding Miquella right when the Shattering began, but instead she follows Torrent's lead looking for a proper master.
                She lost her purpose when Miquella
                >The Lone Wolf Spirit Ashes also note that Torrent's former master
                headcanon, literally nothing confirms or hints this. Hell nothing even hints that Miquella wasn't a Tarnished since he did lose the guidance of Grace likely so you can have it both ways.
                >The Fell God has no runes to work with
                All Outer Gods do, just because you don't get it it doesn't mean it's not a thing.
                >Melina and the Finger Maidens just plain burn as fuel.
                Wrong, Melina and the Maiden don't simply "burn as fuel". They can use the power of Flame of the Fell God, among others, because they can use the runes. This is why the Forge is dangerous to the Erdtree and eretical

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bold to start calling things headcanon when you're as steeped in it as anyone else here.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All of the Great Runes were in the Elden Ring aside from the Rune of Death, which Marika sealed away after Maliketh won it by defeating the Gloam-Eyed Queen. The Great Rune of the Unborn is the left circle of the Elden Ring along with part of the central line. Said rune is thinned out in sections, just like the rest of the Great Runes that go in the Elden Ring but have been fragmented by Marika's actions, indicating that Marika plucked about half of it out of the Elden Ring proper and told Radagon to give to Rennala. Marika has clearly been modifying the Elden Ring as she has seen fit, and she hasn't had to make an entirely new age every time she has done so.

                Marika asking for the Rune of Death back from Maliketh wouldn't innately go against the scope of authority granted to her, so Maliketh would have no reason to refuse and/or go MK Ultra mode. The Two Fingers could block Miquella being selected as the next god with the Elden Ring, thus preventing him from taking the Elden Ring and immediately using it to go full throttle with the Haligtree and unalloyed gold. The Age of Fracture is the most default ending possible, and thus the best example of what Marika was intending for the Lands Between after her plan worked and the Elden Beast was destroyed. There was never a need to outright kill the Erdtree if the Haligtree was to do its thing, and the Haligtree might literally just be an Erdtree sapling that Miquella experimented on to boot. Also, as far as Marika was concerned, the Haligtree may have just been a means to an end for breaking the curse that kept Miquella prepubescent.

                Melina wouldn't have lost her purpose for Miquella if she never embarked on any purpose to begin with, and she certainly didn't try stopping Mohg. The Lone Wolf Spirit Ashes literally mention their former master being a Tarnished, and Miquella literally can't be a Tarnished because he's a demi-god. Runes are Greater Will only.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >All of the Great Runes were in the Elden Ring aside from the Rune of Death
                Show me where this is ever said.
                Fricking headcanon again, you can actually see the runes in Elden Ring when Placidusax was Elden Lord compared to the runes in the Elden Ring when Marika was with several runes removed, meaning through the various Ages the Elden Ring was shattered and then mended with different runes. You can actually trace all Shardbearers Great Runes and form the symbol of the bottom picture.
                There's no rune of death, If you mix Morgott, Radahn, Malenia, Rykard, Mohg and Godrick you can see there's no plane left for the Rune of Death, it's literally missing from the emblem while in the upper picture it can be seen meaning the Rune of Death was in the Elden Ring before

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There have only ever been four circles in the Elden Ring, which is true even in your attached image. If you look closely at the Farum Azula mural, there are only four complete, clean circles there. Everything else is a vine or root growing out of the Elden Ring that either stops or deflects upon making contact with the Elden Ring again. As for the arrangement of the circles, it's the same as on the tiles that make up the various highways of the game, so there wasn't a grand alteration. All of the Shardbearers' Great Runes are just fragments of those four circles and the center line of the Elden Ring. Rennala and Malenia's Great Runes make up the left circle, Radahn and Rykard's Great Runes make up the right circle, Godrick's Great Rune makes up the center circle and slight parts of the rest, and Morgott and Mohg's Great Runes make up the top circle. The rest of the Elden Ring is with Radagon. The way the Elden Ring was shattered took lots of tiny shards out of each Great Rune, and the shards are still trying to hold their intended shape.

                Judging from its shape, the Rune of Death would be part of the center or top circle of the Elden Ring and the central line. The tiny horizontal line at the bottom of the Farum Azula mural seems more like the beginning of the arc at the very bottom of the Elden Ring, or just a spot where the "roots" twirling around the center line stop.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except that the great runes aren't just circles or rings in that emblem, but represent the points where the rings are interlaced. The Rune of Death has the shape of dagger and can be seen in the Placidusax emblem at the very top from the handle and running down the entire emblem through a stylized blade that gets thinner, it's not a ring, the runes aren't rings, not even what we get in game, just the sections when the rings are intertwined, which is why there's more than 3 great runes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not true at all, Melina's quest is to guide a Lord (originally Miquella, with the Shattering and Miquella losing she lost her purpose until she found the Tarnished) to succeed Marika and bring death to the Lands Between. She only later learns that she has to burn the Erdtree for that to happen. Her purpose wasn't to burn the Erdtree, but as she says "aids her in the very act". She can use the power of the great runes, including that of the Fell Giant, so she can burn the Erdtree with the Forge.
                Her purpose was to use the Rune of Death

                What do we have that indicates Marika and Miquella were working together at all?

                Torrent, Melina name file and dialogue and so on. The Twin prodigy was LITERALLY bred by Marika with that specific purpose to use Intelligence and Faith and create a new Perfected (Unalloyed) Order, an imitation of which is then established by Radagon (a fragment/part of Marika she used as tool for the process) when reforming the old Golden Order. That's the whole point of Radagon and Rennala marriage and union when he was still acting on behalf of her other self (Marika).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Torrent, Melina name file and dialogue and so on

                Melina's internal name just reveals that she's a daughter of Marika, which she basically says outright. Doesn't really speak to any link to Miquella. And what does Torrent have to do with Miquella? Just the DLC picture? Meanwhile, Ranni gives you the spirit bell at the behest of Torrent's former master and seems to be very familiar with Torrent. How does that factor into this?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How does that factor into this?
                Torrent is Ranni's ex

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                She is not a daughter of Marika, she is "daughter" of Marika created by her at the foot of the Erdtree, where Marike gave her purpose. It's clear that she isn't a super secret Demigod daughter but was specifically made to serve as maiden replacement for Miquella since no Finger Maiden would serve him in his heresy against the Erdtree
                > Doesn't really speak to any link to Miquella. And what does Torrent have to do with Miquella? Just the DLC picture?
                It shows Miquella was the former owner, and chose the Tarnished as successor since Miquella cannot become a Lord anymore
                >Meanwhile, Ranni gives you the spirit bell at the behest of Torrent's former master and seems to be very familiar with Torrent.
                She is familiar with spirits after committing Sudoku and manifesting a spirit herself by killing her body. Spirits that don't have their soul returning to the Erdtree wander in their own dimension waiting for rebirth through either calling or guidance. The Spectral Steeed Whistle however is given by Melina. No, Ranni is not Melina, they have completely different goals and you can literally see Ranni's spirit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I find no particular evidence for Melina being made for Miquella specifically. The only connection between her and Miquella seems to be Torrent (who in turn is only connected to Miquella by the DLC picture thus far, as far as I'm aware), but that again brings us back to Ranni, who seems to know Torrent and his former master well. This whole Torrent connection is all very ambiguous because we don't know much about Torrent in the first place.
                It makes me wonder, if Torrent is supposedly so close to Miquella, then why does Ranni speak of them in such a familiar fashion? What was her relationship to Miquella?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Melina has ties with the Rune of Death and outright says her purpose was serving a new Lord and bringing Death to the Lands Between which she also comments on being the right choice because Lands Between is devastated by constant warring of immortal demigods. This is also tied to Castle Sol and Miquella.
                >but that again brings us back to Ranni, who seems to know Torrent and his former master well.
                Yes, Ranni knew Miquella, Miquella entrusted the bell to call spirits to Ranni for the next Elden Lord since he could never ascend to Godhood.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Rune of Death -> Castle Sol/Eclipse connection is vague. I would say it's insufficient to make a firm connection between Melina and Miquella. A frequent problem with a lot of Elden Ring's story is that many elements are in proximity, threatening to interweave, but they don't actually come together.
                Prime example, Gurranq/Maliketh and Godwyn. Gurranq is crazy about deathroots but he never has any direct interaction with the Godwyn situation. You can go down there to Godwyn's body, the source of the deathroots, but you can't go back and talk to Gurranq about it or anything.
                Really, the whole deathblight situation is critically unaddressed by everyone except Fia, whose answer is "It's cool, skeleton (un)lives matter". It leads to a bunch of people getting twisted up in knots about how the deathblight is just gonna keep spreading and turn everyone into skeletons in every ending (except frenzy flame, I guess).

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would Maliketh give a shit about Godwyn? He is addicted to Deathroot because of Destined Death being struck on his dead corpse and creating Deathroot which was also on the blade he hides in his body, that's it. How much background do you actually need on that?
                >Deathblith is unaddressed
                No shit, there's a whole expansion on that

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would the guy obsessed with deathroots give a shit about the source of the deathroots?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, why would he? Can you explain it without buzzwords? If you feed him you get his incantations, that's it. It shows Deathblight corruption and gives lore on what killing Godwyn created. Why would Gurranq talk about Godwyn though?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You forget that Marika sent the Tarnished away which most presume was because she was always going to shatter the ER.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One of the core problems with Elden Ring's story is that the huge plot point of "Marika is Radagon" is intended as a twist and, despite being so core to the story, is never fully clarified. The vast majority of the information we're given, including Marika's own words as echoed by Melina, treats Radagon as a separate being but them being the same person (or at least sharing the same body) is also stated as fact. The precise nature of "Marika is Radagon" is left unclear.
          Were they two people who the Greater Will fused together? Was Radagon just a second persona forced upon Marika by the Greater Will? Was Radagon a persona conjured by Marika herself that gained its own will? While Radagon was married to Rennala, would he periodically have to sneak out and switch back to being Marika to make appearances in the Leyndell? When Radagon left Rennala to marry Marika, did no one ever wonder why the couple were never in the same room at the same time?
          It's all a fricking mystery because only a scant few sources even acknowledge the twist.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's not even a very interesting mystery. This thread alone has already presented more interesting avenues of story like Radagon being an obstacle preventing the passing of Order to the Haligtree, or Ranni's suicide being something Marika didn't know about so she thought Ranni was screwing her over and shattered the Elden Ring. Neither of these notions are made more interesting with the idea that Radagon and Marika are the same being. It's just a nonsense plot point.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's worse than a nonsense plot point. It actively muddles the story by making the actions of a central character less coherent.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Probably one those things where Miyazaki thought, if at least one person got it then it's worth it. Some personal epiphany as he continually refines his convoluted amalgam of Jungain psychology and western civilization mythology.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and, despite being so core to the story, is never fully clarified.
            It is, Marika specifically calls Radagon her own other self, but that he was never a God, unlike her. He pops out of nowhere in Liurnia to fight for the Golden Order at the head of the Golden Host, wielding what the game named Marika's hammer. He's aprt of herself that Marika created in order to fight, and conveniently fricks Rennala when Marika needed to study the Stars and merge Intelligence and Faith to better understand the Golden Order and specifically the Elden Beast. The issue is, Radagon and Marika have two personalities and Radagon gets attached to his precious new and reformed Golden Order, while Marika sent Radagon only with the plan to destroy and replace it. It's so blatant Mitsubishi himself is probably laughing his ass off reading dumbass gaijin theories.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So Radagon is Marika, but Radagon isn't a god (even though he is Marika, who is a god). Radagon is a completely separate persona that Marika created that is not her (and thus not a god) and acts independent of her, even though Radagon is Marika. Marika simply chose to give herself a split personality and create this new persona that was not her (even though he is her) in order to fight on her behalf (which she had done herself on previous occasions).
              And this is a coherent plot point to you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds just like any other religion tbh.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You could probably reformulate it into a trinity. The Lord, the Queen, and the Greater Will. Even has a nice ring to it. But the comparison isn't terribly coherent.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Even has a nice ring to it
                Yeah, but it got shattered.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Marika was probably playing god due to her ego while hoping that Radagon wouldn't develop values and beliefs of his own. Some people also speculate that Marika created Radagon so she could test ways of circumventing the rules placed on her (effectively being her own Elden Lord) or otherwise "cloning" Empyrean successors for her plans of overthrowing the Elden Beast. Additionally, with Radagon's red hair and zero fire defense, Marika might have made him to deflect a curse from the Fell God after she sealed it away.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So Radagon is Marika, but Radagon isn't a god (even though he is Marika, who is a god).
                Radagon was created by Marika as part of her own self, but Radagon himself isn't an empyrean, he can't fix the Elden Ring and he has no shadow. It's not hard to understand

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But to be clear, Radagon is Marika.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, basically he's Marika's tulpa.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Consider this: the Radagon/Marika situation works the exact same as the D twins. Two separate people, same soul.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well what we do know Radagon did was leave Rennala (causing her to lose it which in turn disaffected Ranni) and go fuse/try to take over Marika (which she was clearly not pleased by). The odd one out is Miquella's seemingly positive relationship with Radagon, though that may have just been during Miquella's youth. Radagon's Rings of Light specifically notes that Miquella still ended up abandoning the fundamentalism (i.e. the Golden Order, i.e. Radagon) because it couldn't cure Malenia's rot. So perhaps that's where Radagon fits into Miquella's story of turning away from the Greater Will.
        So I suppose the point here is that Radagon didn't have to do anything active to stand between Ranni, Miquella, and Marika. Just his existence kept them apart.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >accidentally

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So whats the lore with the nox and the giant woman thing you find in their ruined city? I thought they just got fricked up by astel(?) and that was it.

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always figured that Marika figured that the sisterhood was above everything, which is why she had those women assassins that killed her son, and she was probably working with Ranni, but then Ranni stabbing her in the back to escape and only helping herself had Marika sperg out. Suddenly she sacrificed her little boy for the girls, and her alter-ego schizo male version daughter reaped the rewards and lol, lmao'd her way the frick out of there. So Marika broke the ring in an act of anger and hysteria and now shits just fricking fried all over.
    >tfw when the godesses doomed everything and we're relying on an immortal femboy twink to save us

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but then Ranni stabbing her in the back to escape and only helping herself had Marika sperg out
      Huh. This is the first time I've ever seen this put forward, and I'm inclined to believe it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      That's irrelevant, Marika would have NEVER shattered the Elden Ring before the Haligtree was ready, she created Melina for the Haligtree with the clear purpose of being a maiden to Miquella and restore Death and there's Oracles there from the Capital. Ranni specifically forced her hand by getting Godwyn stuck in non-death, hoping to advance her plot for the Age of Stars by disrupting the transition between Golden Order and Unalloyed Gold

      While I've heard theories about Marika and Ranni colluding, I haven't heard this notion of Ranni backstabbing Marika with her suicide before. Strikes me as an odd syncretic position of the traditional "Ranni perpetrated the Night of Black Knives, causing Marika to freak out" and "Marika and Ranni were working together on the Night of Black Knives" positions.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Same. I really like it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wasn't praising the position. It strikes me in an odd way. I'm not sure I agree with it, but I can understand the reasoning of it.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Marika fricks shit up
    REEEEE FRICK THIS DUMB b***h
    >Ranni fricks shit up
    I-it's not your fault, queen! I completely understand why you did it! Let me serve you!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about Rykard fricking shit up for... why did he do it again? Palpatine moment?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Completely corrupted by the power he sought, once a respected leader that lost its purpose due to greed and hunger

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I agree with both of them

      Frick ALL gods, if you have to break apart all forms of society to do it then do it, it will be worth the price in the long run

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ranni is a literal cold-blooded terrorist
    My beloved

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think the main reason people sympathize with Ranni, aside from doll dicky, is because all this Marika/Radagon/Greater Will/Golden Order bullshit is impossible to care about. At least Ranni has a face and a voice and a cursory read of her goals (if not her actions) is mildly sympathetic. And she actually has a unique fricking ending unlike everyone except the frenzy flame.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ranni is the single most evil character in the entire setting. Marika would have replaced the Golden Order with the Unalloyed Gold through Miquella's succession and that would have fixen 100% of everything wrong in the Lands Between, but that would have meant no more Moon worshipping autism for her

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What do we have that indicates Marika and Miquella were working together at all?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Ranni is the single most evil character in the entire setting.
        No that would be the guy who framed an entire race of people as worshipers of the Frenzied Flame so they'd be genocided and their despair in their deathpit used as a vector for the Three Fingers to claw their way into the world.

        Ranni's a stupid, evil c**t, but the fallout from what she did can be summed up as UH OH SPAGHETTIOS while Shabriri's plan worked perfectly.
        Also the Loathsome Dungeater is intentionally trying to give the entire world Fecal-AIDSbola.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fixen
        lol opinion discarted

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >discarted
          good work moran

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You guys are retaded

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >discarted
          good work moran

          piss off fricking paggots

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the road to hell is paved by women.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    was her daughter's fault

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All I learn from Elden Ring lore threads is that, no matter how little information they have to go on, people will pull all sorts of bullshit from the ether in order to present their tenuous theory as fact. Souls games have always had this problem, but it's so much fricking worse in Elden Ring for some reason. Is it GRRM's fault for baking a bunch of gay intrigue into the premise?

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    too high IQ for brainlets tbh. her only mistake was underestimating the Tarnished.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like the LORD OF THE FRENZIED FLAME ENDING simply because it seems to be the most chaotic. I understand nothing about the lore so am just gonna burn the world I guess

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like the PERFECT ORDER ENDING because Goldmask is a cool dude.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but cool music on the way down for the frienzied mark. the marchant race will rise from the tunnels

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >living eldritch spaceship crashlands into your kingdom
    >iron age troglodytes find control device for space "magic"
    >enslave it and create an antennae that broadcasts its energy to the whole kingdom giving immortality/rebirth, magic, and prosperity
    >living eldritch spaceship's reactor is damaged and leaking radiation poisoning the kingdom
    >keeps sending out distress signals for repair

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is it true ?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's my headcanon but seems to line up with what I see in the game. I think that the fingers are the remains of whatever being was piloting the ship and it had an internal conflict between scuttling the ship and or repairing it which lead to a physical division of its remains into the 2 and 3 fingers.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Numen are space race that travelled to lands between in a space ship and got stranded due to the magic stuff. Ranni needed to be put into a cyborg body so she could transport back to space to rejoin the numen. The outer gods are symbols of decay because cyborgs and androids don't understand actual organic life.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Neat!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I know!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          very cool I prefer this over the swiss cheese lore

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no problem, she was perfect

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But who's the guy holding up the runes?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      we don't know since that was the last ages rune

      >All of the Great Runes were in the Elden Ring aside from the Rune of Death
      Show me where this is ever said.
      Fricking headcanon again, you can actually see the runes in Elden Ring when Placidusax was Elden Lord compared to the runes in the Elden Ring when Marika was with several runes removed, meaning through the various Ages the Elden Ring was shattered and then mended with different runes. You can actually trace all Shardbearers Great Runes and form the symbol of the bottom picture.
      There's no rune of death, If you mix Morgott, Radahn, Malenia, Rykard, Mohg and Godrick you can see there's no plane left for the Rune of Death, it's literally missing from the emblem while in the upper picture it can be seen meaning the Rune of Death was in the Elden Ring before

      the rune of death is at the bottom anon. the more interesting part is radagons rune being behind it all holding it together.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, that's the rune arc that was split into the various Rune Arc items. None of the Great Runes in the Elden Ring are placed upside-down.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No the rune arcs are the 2 center ones. Marika's rune is at the very top, the rune of death is at the very bottom. It's part of the shadow bit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No the rune arcs are the 2 center ones. Marika's rune is at the very top, the rune of death is at the very bottom. It's part of the shadow bit.

          Wait, I lied. The bottom one is the rune arc with the whole "basin" bit and the middle two "arcs" are actually Ranni's rune iirc. Been a minute. You're correct, the rune was part of the old ring and was ripped out for the new order.

          >the rune of death is at the bottom anon. the more interesting part is radagons rune being behind it all holding it together.
          No it's not and it's blatant that the most striking difference between the two is how the very top of the Farum Azula emblem represents the rune of death with its unique shape, which is just an arc in the Leyndell emblem because there's no rune of Death.
          It's not the "circles" that represent the Great Runes, first because there's at least 7 Great Runes for the current Elden Ring and not 4, and second because the Great Runes we get in game aren't even close to all of them, with Vyke likely obtaining 2 Great Runes that were exclusive to Farum Azula given his dragon cult shit. This completely debunks your nonsense that all great runes came from the Elden Ring and Radagon took a piece to gift it to Rennala. Each Age has its own emblem, with its own different Great Runes that the current Elden Lord can decide to remove or use, but that first requires shattering it.

          yeah yeah I was getting to it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the rune of death is at the bottom anon. the more interesting part is radagons rune being behind it all holding it together.
        No it's not and it's blatant that the most striking difference between the two is how the very top of the Farum Azula emblem represents the rune of death with its unique shape, which is just an arc in the Leyndell emblem because there's no rune of Death.
        It's not the "circles" that represent the Great Runes, first because there's at least 7 Great Runes for the current Elden Ring and not 4, and second because the Great Runes we get in game aren't even close to all of them, with Vyke likely obtaining 2 Great Runes that were exclusive to Farum Azula given his dragon cult shit. This completely debunks your nonsense that all great runes came from the Elden Ring and Radagon took a piece to gift it to Rennala. Each Age has its own emblem, with its own different Great Runes that the current Elden Lord can decide to remove or use, but that first requires shattering it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Helix is a symbol associated to Death, because the whole emblem has the Rune of Death, which further disproves that the other ring was the Rune of Death.
      In fact the current Elden Ring shows an empty rune arc on top of it thar signifies the Rune of Death missing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the other ring was the Rune of Death.
        had the ring of death*

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In fact the current Elden Ring shows an empty rune arc on top of it thar signifies the Rune of Death missing
        also that's marika's rune at the top. what I find in interesting is the rune arc at the bottom of the new ring seems to be featured at the top of the old ring. implies continuation. makes me think marika's rune will then be on the bottom of our configuration.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >All of the Great Runes were in the Elden Ring aside from the Rune of Death
          Show me where this is ever said.
          Fricking headcanon again, you can actually see the runes in Elden Ring when Placidusax was Elden Lord compared to the runes in the Elden Ring when Marika was with several runes removed, meaning through the various Ages the Elden Ring was shattered and then mended with different runes. You can actually trace all Shardbearers Great Runes and form the symbol of the bottom picture.
          There's no rune of death, If you mix Morgott, Radahn, Malenia, Rykard, Mohg and Godrick you can see there's no plane left for the Rune of Death, it's literally missing from the emblem while in the upper picture it can be seen meaning the Rune of Death was in the Elden Ring before

          >birth
          >life by the order's principles
          >death

          then

          >birth
          >life by the order's principles
          >rebirth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lolno, the rune of death is not the entire old ring what the frick are you smoking.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Blind

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no you're just going a step too far lmao. I'm sure it's in there, acting like it's the whole spine is moronic.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no
          it's the Rune of Magic
          Ranni's rune, added to the Elden Ring when Radagon married Rennala

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and Dave, so easily forgotten.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so whats currently the best weapon in the game?
    haven't played in awhile

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's the greatest

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dual Bandit Knives with Bleed infusion is edgy but damn is it slick.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not "accidently", she orchestrated everything that resulted in shattering of the elden ring to stay in power, if you got any of her endings you played right into her hand. That's why when you go full incel her proxy will get mad at you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wouldn't go that far. she clearly meant for Godfrey to be the winner and for them to do something with their new freedom. but yes everything up to his boss fight is 100% according to her plan/

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"god" comes to earth, tells you it's gonna fix every problem and give you incredible power to carry it out
    >do what it says for a while, but start having doubts
    >eventually realise that "god" is actually just one of several "gods" who are basically extremely powerful aliens
    >the reason they all want a piece of your planet is because they feed on the souls of the dead
    >realise you fricked up MASSIVELY by giving control to any one of them, start putting plans into place to remove the god you put into power
    >because of the amount of time that has passed under the new god's rule, it means that to change things you have to upheave society

    If you listen to all of Melina's dialogue at the churches of Marika, and read item descriptions, it paints that Godfrey and the Tarnished were her secret weapon, and that taking grace away from them and banishing them was a long-form plan to make them stronger and not reliant on the Greater Will, so when they come back they will gradually tear it down, and eventually one of the tarnished will reach the Elden Beast and beat it.
    What happens after that is basically up to the journey of that particular Tarnished, in terms of endings I think Marika would consider the Frenzied Flame ot be the worst (new god that is INSTANTLY worse than the last one) then the next worst is the default "Elden Lord" ending because the tarnished is still maintaining the status quo of the Greater Will.
    the other "fixing the elden ring" endings are all ways to influence the greater will and corrupt/control it, so she probably sees them as a minor step up, but I think the only ending she would be all for is the age of stars, because it tells every god to frick off and will let the people of the planet decide for themselves how things will go, even though that may lead to hardships (because nothing is certain without god telling you what to do, and as we've seen IRL some people just CAN NOT deal with the idea that there isn't a deity guiding them)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >who are basically extremely powerful aliens
      I hate this meme
      In any case, the golden order is completely Marika's doing. Also, what evil thing is the greater will even doing? We don't even know if it is the same as an outer god. The JP community does not consider it an outer god. The outer gods aren't even looking for any benefits but seem to just be inherent forces in the universe. And the elden beast predates the crucible

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I hate this meme
        what meme? the elden beast is LITERALLY an alien, it's a creature born from off the planet who arrived there.

        >what evil thing is the greater will even doing?

        the misbegotten and omen slavery/genocide

        the destruction of the Nox

        the mandated order to kill: the giants, the storm lords, the carians; basically anyone who didn't immediately roll over and become subservient

        if you really don't think oppression is evil, then you are a psychopath, because you refuse to just ignore things you don't like and insist that they be made miserable for daring to exist in the same plane as you

        >>the reason they all want a piece of your planet is because they feed on the souls of the dead
        headcanon bullshit, never post again

        >N-NO, IT'S JUST COINCIDENCE THAT THE GREATER WILL MANDATED THAT ALL BODIES ARE FED TO IT'S ROOTS!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's a creature born from off the planet who arrived there.
          how do you know it was "born" in the sense that living organisms are born and not created as if by a god like the GW. Also, it was sent to the Lands by the GW as is explicitly stated in the elden stars incantation. It is also described as a literal manifestation of the concept of order itself. Doesn't really sound very sci fi "alien"
          >the misbegotten and omen slavery/genocide
          where does it say that the GW orders those things?
          >the destruction of the Nox
          It didn't destroy the Nox, it punished them for some vague reason we don't really know other than they opposed it vehemenently. it just put them underground making them literally cthonic lol.
          >the mandated order to kill: the giants, the storm lords, the carians; basically anyone who didn't immediately roll over and become subservient
          where does it say that it mandated those things which Marika did?
          >if you really don't think oppression is evil, then you are a psychopath, because you refuse to just ignore things you don't like and insist that they be made miserable for daring to exist in the same plane as you
          stop being childish and actually think critically for a moment.
          Do you know the perfumers? those golden-order mandated healers? do you know what they used to do?

          >Perfumer set
          >Robe of an Erdtree Capital perfumer.
          >The thick front apron embroidered with a depiction of the Erdtree is proof of mastery of the apothecarial arts, and its weight symbolizes the onus of both pride and responsibility.
          >In times past, the role of perfumer was much respected; a blessed apothecary in the eyes of the many. But after entering the battlefields of the Shattering they performed no such role, trading their aromatics for poisons and explosives.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Play elden ring and it'll make sense.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Perfumer traveler set
            >Garb of a traveling perfumer of no renown.
            >The thick front apron, the badge of a perfumer, has been replaced with a more simple one made from soft leather.
            >An associate of a healer, he is said to be in search of new aromatics and flower gardens, in hopes of treating Misbegotten, Omen, and all those seen as impure.

            Also, why does Kenneth Haight speak well of the demi-humans?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >why does Kenneth Haight speak well of the demi-humans?
              He is trying to bring back an alliance that fell apart when Horah's family had to leave Stormwind thinking it will curry him favor as a young lordling parlaying a peace in time of war.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >le evil alien
          You are fricking moronic.
          The Erdtree simply resurrects people and it's no parasite. That's exactly why the Tarnished are "immortal" and sane after Death since, ironically... they aren't affected by the Shattering and they can die and be reborn again. The Golden Order is based around the fundamental concept of rebirth after Death

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Golden Order is Marika's doing, but Marika did realize its flaws when she decided to study it, like banishing Death or it being ineffective at warding off Outer Gods influence to the point Radahn and Miquella both need runic power foreign to the Golden Order (Alabaster/Onyx Lord Gravity and Miquella's own Unalloyed Gold research). The Elden Beast (Elden Ring) obviously defended itself from Marika's actions and cricified her for the Shattering while Radagon, who Marika used to form the new Golden Order and create Miquella and Malenia, decided to protect it against the will of Marika due to having his own ego and personality which was but a fragment of Marika.

        also, how the frick does the Elden Ring influence the GW? The Elden Beast is the Elden Ring but it is not the GW

        The Greater Will doesn't give a shit as long as any Order is established. The Greater Will never took part in the Great Wars, both Placidusax and Marika fought for their respective visions of the Order under the rule of the Greater Will. The Greater Will isn't a parasite or evil, he just spreads the Order which rules all elements of the reality he created from the One Great through runes that represent such powers/forces. It's more akin to a Christian conception of God rather than some JRPG God that actively takes a role in the game.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Marika's children didn't follow the GO really. The crystal-like-law level of order she was trying to establish was never going to happen.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Greater Will doesn't give a shit as long as any Order is established. The Greater Will never took part in the Great Wars
          tell that to the other anon.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also, how the frick does the Elden Ring influence the GW? The Elden Beast is the Elden Ring but it is not the GW

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>the reason they all want a piece of your planet is because they feed on the souls of the dead
      headcanon bullshit, never post again

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MARIKA SEXO

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alexander's storyline is so lame, it's just Siegmeyer for the third time, and even that story wasn't that good, you make a character sit in place while you do all the work for them and then they wallow in self pity for being useless, when will we get an NPC storyline of a warrior not falling into despair and succeeding in his mission? Closest thing was Solaire.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Alexander is the based version of this story where he nuts up and decides he needs to fight you to see if he really was worthy.Seigmeyer and his clones just die of le sad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just assisted suicide, give me one where he is inspired by you to not be a pussy and gains a massive power boost to assist you in one of the final fights.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He does get tougher over time. You're just the MC so he'll always be overshadowed by you. Unlike the limp wristed analogues before, he doesn't despair, he decides to test that fate. Alexander is hardboiled as frick.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I dont know why, But I feel his and Ranni's goal makes the most sense. The land is literally slowly being consumed by Rot due to Malenia selfishness. Why would you even try to salvage this land?

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wouldn't be able to tell you a single lore piece in the game after playing the game, how does anyone make sense of it is beyond me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't, people fill in a lot of the gaps, a lot of plot elements also clash with each other.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Other people can read and haven't experienced an ego death already killing any interest they have in life.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Her schizoid delusions were real because of magic rocks.
    She handled it better than anyone from the trooncord would have.

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does Fromsoft not just fix the mistranslation with new updates?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are no mistranslations. Don't fall into listening to discord sister memes about great trees and one greats they are intentionally gaslighting you to see if you know the lore.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >that feeling of adventure playing the first days of elden when everything was new and not even wikis were updated
    i miss that feeling so much i think i'm going hollow

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still feel that way when I play the game my way
      >no fast travel unless it's from a grace
      >walk everywhere
      >clear every combat encounter once
      >only use torrent for mandatory platforming to get back to areas where i've died
      s'fun

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is full of people with good reading comprehension - a lot of item descriptions were interpreted to bring this information to us all.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DLC needs a strike-type twinblade
    gimme a quarterstaff

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the greater will

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hey guys, remember that item that Varre gives you that lets you warp to Moghwyn's castle?
    Just wanted to remind everyone they might want to get it or do the invasions 3 times to get it.
    Didn't that item feel useless? Who else is excited for the DLC?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What the frick are you doing

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who is Will and why is he so great?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know how when people sneeze they say "god bless you?"
      It's like that.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just started another playthrough and focused on the lore aspect, I'm just about to finish up Limgrave and let me see if I got this right;

    >Melina is the manifestation of the Elden Ring itself
    She isn't sure where she comes from, she is guided by grace/the ring, guides you the tarnish in restoring it, can give you strength.

    She gives you torrent, and the previous owner of torrent was Blaidd, for Ranni gives you the wolf ashes alongside it. The aesthetic also fits it. Additionally you talk to the merchant beside where Ranni gives you the ashes and that merchant tells you how to get Blaidd off the tower. Likely both of them are there to guide any new tarnished.

    Ranni also has an inverted eye closed to Melina, and she's a doll. Meaning one is the empty vessel of the Elden Ring, and the other is the spirit of it?

    So Melina serves the golden order, the Two Fingers. What does Ranni follow?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What does Ranni follow?
      Dark Moon. It's part of her route.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and the previous owner of torrent was Blaidd
      I kinda doubt that, specially seeing how the DLC teaser showed Miquella riding Torrent.

      Also Ranni "follows" the Dark Moon, though it's more accurate to say she's gonna make the Dark Moon follow her into space and make it so no one is left to influence the Lands Between.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Question to the translationgays:

    IF the game is grossly mistranslated, then why the frick hasn't From fixed these supposed errors in the almost two years this game has been out?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >IF the game is grossly mistranslated
      It isn't mistranslated. People know the lore and that upsets the discord so they try to FUD but it always fails because people know the lore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >People know the lore
        all right, explain it then without ever meandering off into speculation.

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She didn't want to make it a better place. They outright tell you she was so pissed off about her son being murdered by Ranni that she wanted to make the world a worse place for everyone

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a 'its gonna get worse before it gets better' situation.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did Ranni do it?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pure evil. Ranni's whole shtick is that she's a servant of the evil moon god and wants to kill all other gods and make the moon god the sole ruler of mankind

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They outright tell you
      who's "they"?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gideon Ofnir and Melina. You learn in the first hour why Marika shattered the ring, it takes the rest of the game to realize the truth.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          give me a quote

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "Queen Marika wishes for us to struggle unto eternity"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >In Marika's own words. Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...
            >In Marika's own words. O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.
            >In Marika's own words. I declare mine intent, to search the depths of the Golden Order. Through understanding of the proper way, our faith, our grace, is increased. Those blissful early days of blind belief are long past. My comrades; why must ye falter?

            Pretty much the entirety of Melina's dialogue is a long form breakdown of Marika losing her faith.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just like with Ranni's dialogue, and "Outer Gods", westerners are overly insistent that "leal hound" is an insult ehen nothing about the way it's recited implies it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ok, so did she break the ring because she wants us to struggle or because she lost her faith?
              I don't think even From knows

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Marika just felt like it. Hence the woman moment.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're more right than you know. Everything after the breaking of the elden ring is pure fromsoft schizophrenia that purposefully doesn't make sense

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You """people""" are complete morons. Why do you think Godfrey was our final obstacle before the Ring itself? She lost faith in the Greater Will and found a way to get rid of it. The Greater Will had already abandoned the world. All that was needed was for the shards to be gathered and Godfrey to fix her the same way we make our own ring. That's why we're called back way after the shattering. Had to let the GW frick off.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do you think Godfrey was our final obstacle before the Ring itself?
                Because fromsoft forgot that he was in the game

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shit homie he was supposed to lead us through the game but that part got cut presumably because it was too on the nose and casts him in a bad light.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like fanfiction

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ?si=M_ZPD30WE5cy--4w

                >Why do you think Godfrey was our final obstacle before the Ring itself?
                I have no idea. Maybe From did forget about him.
                >She lost faith in the Greater Will
                why? and how do you know this? Did she worship the GW?
                I'm sorry for being a moron who doesn't jump to conclusions from invisible platforms.

                >I have no idea. Maybe From did forget about him.
                I answered this, you just ignored it. The above hammers it in again.
                >why? and how do you know this? Did she worship the GW?

                >In Marika's own words. Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...
                >In Marika's own words. O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.
                >In Marika's own words. I declare mine intent, to search the depths of the Golden Order. Through understanding of the proper way, our faith, our grace, is increased. Those blissful early days of blind belief are long past. My comrades; why must ye falter?

                Pretty much the entirety of Melina's dialogue is a long form breakdown of Marika losing her faith.

                >I'm sorry for being a moron who doesn't jump to conclusions from invisible platforms.
                you're a moron because you refuse what's right in front of you

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Godfrey saying to seek the Elden Ring "across the fog"

                I wonder if a very early idea was for the tutorial area to take place out where the Tarnished were banished to, ending with your character dying in battle along with Godfrey.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do you think Godfrey was our final obstacle before the Ring itself?
                I have no idea. Maybe From did forget about him.
                >She lost faith in the Greater Will
                why? and how do you know this? Did she worship the GW?
                I'm sorry for being a moron who doesn't jump to conclusions from invisible platforms.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also, why does Marika never once mention the GW by name and only ever talks about the Order when she isn't enslaving giants? (who btw, are implied to have been real buttholes themselves)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                GW is what the religious types attribute their lives to. Marika knows that the GW isn't the one responsible for their lives.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So, what is it then? Does it just not exist?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Everything outside of explicit characters basically doesn't exist. Even the crucible is just a tacked on piece of red herring lore

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Up to you I guess. There is no proof it exists since all things are it's domain. All the things attributed to it are shown to be from outer gods or mortals but they are just working thru the GW right?
                It doesn't matter.

                >You are wrong.
                I accept your concession.

                That's fine.

                Everything outside of explicit characters basically doesn't exist. Even the crucible is just a tacked on piece of red herring lore

                The crucible is just an understanding of how the 'system' worked prior to the erdtree beast. It describes basic evolution into guided evolution/eugenics by the dragons.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The crucible is red herring lore and character motivations don't make sense because fromsoft is incompetent

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't a red herring since it's foundational to the lore and understanding it.
                It is just the basic evolutionary theory of darwin as an understanding. Animals predated on each other and strong predatory qualities were seen as beneficial. When enough of these coalesced into the same being it becomes what we call a dragon. The dragons became the leaders in their own time and used their dominance to order reality via their predator qualities.
                They get supplanted like all the others by the GO, an order that represents cultural/societal ordering, not that of the natural world. The natural world was foreign to the GO and the beast they sought to bend and warp it until it fit into their mold not try to mold themselves into the fit of the world like the crucible era.
                I feel bad for the sisters that keep shitposting about the lore being weak. It makes them look so stupid and upset when others talk about it.

                Then where did the Elden Beast come from? what about this?[...]
                Christ, you guys are certainly no better.

                >Then where did the Elden Beast come from?
                Elden Stars, 1 of the 12 comets from the Primeval Current that fell to the Lands Between and became the various gods. Read the legendary spells it goes over how the primeval current shit out a comet that split into 12 parts and rained down on the LB.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No the crucible is not foundational lore, it's literally red herring lore they tacked on to fill out item descriptions

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No the crucible is not foundational lore
                The erdtree grows out of the crucible. It's literally foundational.
                I feel bad for you lad.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The erdtree grows out of my ass. You think fromsoft would give an actual reason as to why there's a giant glowing tree in the middle of the map

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the greater will sent it as the elden beast, and it started as the crucible during godfreys time and then grew into the erdtree

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The greater will and elden beast are all tacked on red herrings. The elden beast doesn't even make sense and only exists because fromsoft wanted another boss fight

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the elden beast creampied your mother who then birthed your brother whom your mother favours and that makes you jealous hence the shitposting you do in elden ring threads

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sorry that's you have terminal autism because you're a subhuman but nothing about elden ring makes sense

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are just low IQ, """"sister"""" maybe stick to animal crossing and fallout new vegas

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You would genuinely have to be low IQ to be fooled into thinking elden ring had a plot

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is that so? because you have me fricking fooled

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Read the legendary spells it goes over how the primeval current shit out a comet that split into 12 parts and rained down on the LB.
                no, it tells you that the spell will summon 12 comets and then vaguely talks about the primeval current and how it drove some men mad and something about the stars'amber raining down on "this land"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the spell
                What spell? Anon, the legendary spells (plural) all tell a story about the 3 exiled mages seeing the original event that brought the gods to the lands between. They saw the primeval current shit out a meteor that broke into 12 parts. 1 of them was the elden stars. The other 11 are the other 11 godly beings.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ffs

                Comet Azur:
                Legendary sorcery devised by Azur, primeval sorcerer.

                Fires a tremendous comet in a torrent akin to the distant starry expanse, the place said to be the origin of glintstone.
                Hold to continue releasing the sorcery's power.

                When Azur glimpsed into the primeval current, he saw darkness. He was left both bewitched and fearful of the abyss.

                Founding rain
                The eldest primeval sorcery, said to have been discovered by an
                ancient astrologer. A sorcery of legendary status.

                Summons a dark cloud of stars overhead. Shortly after, the cloud
                will release a violent deluge of star rain. This sorcery can be cast
                while in motion. Charging increases potency.

                Thought to be the founding glintstone sorcery. The glimpse of the
                primeval current that the astrologer saw became real, and the
                stars' amber rained down on this land.

                Stars of rui:
                Legendary sorcery devised by Lusat, primeval sorcerers.

                Fires twelve dark shooting stars that pursue the target. This sorcery can be cast while in motion. Charging increases potency.

                When Lusat glimpsed into the primeval current, he beheld the final moments of a great star cluster, and upon seeing it, he too was broken.

                where is the meteor breaking into 12 parts?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't exist but bickering over it is a common passtime of the trooncord. The same 3-4 anons will repeat the same tired quotes at each other without listening to the other side.
                They are now seeding the discussion to bicker over if there are erdtrees on other planets or if there are other planets.
                It's the same tired fake arguments with the discord being here they only get in the way of real discourse.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then where did the Elden Beast come from? what about this?

                The GW is clearly responsible for the Elden Ring as per the Elden beast.

                Elden Stars:
                This legendary incantation is the most ancient of those that derive from the Erdtree.

                Creates a stream of golden shooting stars that assail the area.

                It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.

                Elden Remembrance
                Remembrance of the Elden Beast, hewn into the Erdtree.

                The power of its namesake can be unlocked by the Finger Reader. Alternatively, it can be used to gain a great bounty of runes.

                It was the vassal beast of the Greater Will and living incarnation of the concept of Order.

                Christ, you guys are certainly no better.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the shadowbeast thing is done by the two fingers, direct arbiters of the greater will. whether marika started her conquest for the GW or the GW just latched onto her I'm not sure.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The GW is clearly responsible for the Elden Ring as per the Elden beast.

                Elden Stars:
                This legendary incantation is the most ancient of those that derive from the Erdtree.

                Creates a stream of golden shooting stars that assail the area.

                It is said that long ago, the Greater Will sent a golden star bearing a beast into the Lands Between, which would later become the Elden Ring.

                Elden Remembrance
                Remembrance of the Elden Beast, hewn into the Erdtree.

                The power of its namesake can be unlocked by the Finger Reader. Alternatively, it can be used to gain a great bounty of runes.

                It was the vassal beast of the Greater Will and living incarnation of the concept of Order.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My bet is that she just simply wanted to rule without depending on any gods. She just wanted to be THE god, instead of the Pope/Queen. Otherwise her actions just make no sense. She was ruthless and carried out a number of genocides of her own volition, so clearly it's not moral qualms. She ruled the greatest kingdom in the world that extended as far as she decided, so clearly it wasn't about wanting to secure it's hegemony. She was immortal, so it wasn't about securing her own life. She ditched her own husbands and children at the slightest provocation, so it wasn't about wanting the best for her dynasty. And the GW never gave her any conditions other than just ruling in it's stead, so she didn't really have a reason to rebel.

                There's only one explanation there. She just wanted to betray the GW and usurp it. Go up the last step of the power pyramid left, and be at the absolute top.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >She just wanted to be THE god, instead of the Pope/Queen
                she is already talked about in game as if she were a god. Everyone worships her and calls her a god, like the finger reader in roundtable hold: "A god in truth". Also, you speak about genocide as if it's the most evil thing she could have done when the giants are literally implied to have been uber buttholes. And genocides are not exactly uncommon in ancient myths:

                Roar Medallion:
                >A bronze medallion depicting a roaring giant. >Enhances roars and breath attacks.

                >In ancient times, the giants were mortal enemies of the Erdtree. Their bellowing roars desolated nature, triggered avalanches, and whipped up storms of flame.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I think Marika did it because she wanted to become the actual supreme god instead of just being treated like one.
                >No anon, that's wrong because she wasn't the actual supreme god and was instead just treated like one!

                Damn...
                Riveting argument...
                And
                > Also, you speak about genocide as if it's the most evil thing she could have done
                What the FRICK could she have done worse than that? She didn't do it just to the giants either. I mean, up until she shattered the ring and basically ruined the entire world at once instead of just one race at a time.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What the FRICK could she have done worse than that?
                I mean you act as if "genocide" is depicted as the most evil thing in myth. Was Thor the bad guy for killing all those Jotuns? The Jotuns were depicted as the evil ones. And the Giants apperantly were very destructive and even cruel to the trolls.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can't help but notice you still didn't mention something worse.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >In Marika's own words. Hear me, Demigods. My children beloved. Make of thyselves that which ye desire. Be it a Lord. Be it a God. But should ye fail to become aught at all, ye will be forsaken. Amounting only to sacrifices...
          >In Marika's own words. O Radagon, leal hound of the Golden Order. Thou'rt yet to become me. Thou'rt yet to become a god. Let us be shattered, both. Mine other self.
          >In Marika's own words. I declare mine intent, to search the depths of the Golden Order. Through understanding of the proper way, our faith, our grace, is increased. Those blissful early days of blind belief are long past. My comrades; why must ye falter?

          Pretty much the entirety of Melina's dialogue is a long form breakdown of Marika losing her faith.

          >Be Marika.
          >Have like half a dozen children who die from completely mysterious reasons, who you bury far away from the capital in mobile graves that don't let anyone get close and whose names you just completely delete from history.
          >Slam dunk two of your children into the sewers.
          >Destroy the lifestyle and inheritance of three of your children.
          >Throw out your child suffering from magic leprosy because trying to pay for her needle treatment might cost 1/10000000th of your fortune.
          >Tell another child to eat shit or frick off for protesting for what you did about the previous one to the point he actually does frick off.
          >Burn your last child alive so she can be a ghost and send out messages for you.

          >Still somehow manage to convince everyone that the reason you ruined the world was because you loved your son so much just because you told said last child to say so to the army of Tarnished who are trying to marry you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ermmm ummm but her off model fanart makes my peepee big so get ratioed chud

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Gideon Ofnir and Melina.
          The biggest dumbass in the Lands Between with a severe case of Dunning-Kruger and the actual spokesperson for Marika are NOT reliable information on Marika.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was he even dead though after Miquella kept him sentient?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Essentially
        His soul died and only his body lived

        He's a soulless zombie now

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Threadly reminder that the only good ending is Goldmask's ending.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek this loser pays to post

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Goldcuck is a pass holder. He pays 10 dollars a year to post with a 30 second cooldown.

          What the frick are you doing

          Remember that item that brought you to Moghwyn's palace and doesn't really do anything else and most players kill Mogh in their playthroughs?
          What an useless item amirite?

          Just like with Ranni's dialogue, and "Outer Gods", westerners are overly insistent that "leal hound" is an insult ehen nothing about the way it's recited implies it.

          Trying too hard sister.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I see, you're coyly pretending to have info about the DLC. Carry on then, I'm sure you'll catch some idiot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'm just saying the item is useless and people should get it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It doesn't have anything to do with the dlc.
              There is no reason varre should be the first NPC you meet.

              [...]
              >Be Marika.
              >Have like half a dozen children who die from completely mysterious reasons, who you bury far away from the capital in mobile graves that don't let anyone get close and whose names you just completely delete from history.
              >Slam dunk two of your children into the sewers.
              >Destroy the lifestyle and inheritance of three of your children.
              >Throw out your child suffering from magic leprosy because trying to pay for her needle treatment might cost 1/10000000th of your fortune.
              >Tell another child to eat shit or frick off for protesting for what you did about the previous one to the point he actually does frick off.
              >Burn your last child alive so she can be a ghost and send out messages for you.

              >Still somehow manage to convince everyone that the reason you ruined the world was because you loved your son so much just because you told said last child to say so to the army of Tarnished who are trying to marry you.

              The fundies usurped the church from her half way through she couldn't get her actual message out and when she did it was in cryptic code so she wouldn't be punished. The church still uses her words to reinforce itself and twist the meaning.

              Ok, so did she break the ring because she wants us to struggle or because she lost her faith?
              I don't think even From knows

              She wanted to teach people how to be godly beings and had the method usurped from her in the process. She wanted to steal the flame of life from god pretty much, there is a possibility god will fight back and you won't win. The upside to winning is you win a glorious future for everyone. The risk of failure is eternal suffering.
              Alea iacta est and all that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >She wanted to teach people how to be godly beings and had the method usurped from her in the process. She wanted to steal the flame of life from god pretty much, there is a possibility god will fight back and you won't win. The upside to winning is you win a glorious future for everyone.
                this makes absolutely no sense and does not in any way follow from the premises.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You aren't smart
                >Marika's faith conquers every other culture and folds it into itself
                >GO was another culture to move past but the Beast usurped the control
                Marika's system was going to bring about godliness for those at the top, and anyone could ascend to the top with her lessons. That was the point. The beast just took control during the process she was working toward that is why she tells people to look into the faith to move past it.
                It was just about amassing power you weren't supposed to become supplicant to it but you were and it let it get a life of it's own and now you live to serve it instead of it living to serve you.
                It isn't even a new concept in fiction anon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It doesn't have anything to do with the dlc.

                Yeah I know, it's just

                I'm just saying the item is useless and people should get it.

                having a lark. Unless they mean the bluntly obvious idea that pretty much everyone has already discussed, that the DLC's entry point is potentially going to be Miquella's cocoon, in which case I don't get why he's acting like it hasn't already been thought of by anyone with a functional brain.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In most endings, Queen Marika becomes your consort. The frenzied flame ending is the only one where you have no consort, only chaos

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In Goldmask's ending, she is robbed of any and all power she might have had. The only being that can affect the ring after it has been mended with his rune is the GW itself.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In other words, Marika becomes the powerless submissive wife in Goldmask's ending.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bitches disregard. Godliness achievemed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We don't even know what powers the GW has other than the power to create an Elden beast and "punish" the Nox. The only thing we can conservatively infer is that GM removes gods (Marika and co) from the order as one would remove a fly from an ointment.
          Some people also want to say that there is a theme of determinism/fate vs. free will and that GM removes free will even though the people in the game already talk about fate as if it were a real force in place as well as the whole game being riddled with prophecies

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, seeing how the age of the Erdtree was, at least briefly, a veritable utopia during which death was a minor inconvenience and people were bolstered by the blessings of the Two Fingers and partook of the sap of the tree, it is pretty safe to assume that the GW's intentions are at the very least somewhat benevolent.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I wasn't referring to its intentions. There is next to nothing we know about anything in this game. Also, was the age of the Erdtree its doing or MArika? What the frick does the GW even do? Nobody seems to worship it. all the icons are of Marika and the erdtree. All I'm saying is that people are drawing a lot of conclusions from a handful of premises.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AoE was almost certainly the GW's doing, as it makes little sense for Marika to go from that to the heinous shit her Golden Order does after the fact. So it's only logical to assume that the bad stuff started when Marika was made the vassal for the GW, or possibly after the GW was no longer actively monitoring her.

                I cannot of course offer concrete proof of it, but in my honest opinion, Marika threw her b***hfit because the GW saw what she did with the power it had given her and deemed her lacking and planned to replace her. The shattering and its aftermath are Marika's bid to remain in power.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This has to be true because character motivations don't make sense
                Character motivations don't make sense because it's poorly written/hacked apart by fromsoft during development

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Erdtree era was pure bliss there was no need for conflict or conquest yet. The ages thru Marika's faiths represent a person's life they were still innocent in the erdtree era. Erdtree bliss is what Marika's world was, as it changed to the GO and then GO fundamentalists it begins to be what the elden beast's world is.

                https://youtu.be/zMu7FvNP2Z4?si=M_ZPD30WE5cy--4w
                [...]
                >I have no idea. Maybe From did forget about him.
                I answered this, you just ignored it. The above hammers it in again.
                >why? and how do you know this? Did she worship the GW?
                [...]
                >I'm sorry for being a moron who doesn't jump to conclusions from invisible platforms.
                you're a moron because you refuse what's right in front of you

                You are wrong.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The ages thru Marika's faiths represent a person's life
                Lol

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They do. There is innocence in the halcyon days, then sin in the middle period, then atonement in the latter days.
                It follows how Hellenic societies saw their own cultures evolve and then decay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You are wrong.
                I accept your concession.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not to mention that the supposed replacement threw a b***hfit too. GW just couldn't catch a break with these prostitutes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >GW is an allegory for MGTOW

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Those are "halcyon days" and represent innocence thru ignorance.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wanted an ending where I become Mohg's consort.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What you don't understand is that Marika is the game devs. They want you to struggle.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Schizo who spams completely baseless assertions as fact is back.

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We all know that there's only one based ending

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It is not enough that my life is shit, the lives of everyone else should be too

      Quite literally the shittiest and whiniest ending in the game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As opposed to
        >Everyone should die in a fire
        >Everyone should be a slave to the moon god
        >Everyone should be a slave to the perfect golden order
        >Everyone should live in some kind of fog, I still got no clue what the frick even happens in Fias ending

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          None of those are as petty as the poop chomper ending. It is literally making things worse just so people can suffer more. At least the other endings have the INTENTION of making things better even if they do not actually do that. Even the flame of frenzy operates on the notion that if there is no one to suffer, suffering is eliminated.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dung Eater thought he can end the discrimination against omens by turning everyone into one and denying them to return to the erdtree. Truly it's despair

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes I'm sure that's exactly what the psychotic serial killer was thinking.
              Imagine simping for a fat ugly bastard named turd tonguer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rannis ending is not being a slave to the moon God. You take the elden ring with her, put it on the moon, so that only you guys can frick with it. Then you start repairing the world. If you can call it slavery bc there is someone in charge at the end of the day but that's pretty pedantic.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >You take the elden ring with her, put it on the moon, so that only you guys can frick with it.
            you cannot even infer that from it. Literally nothing is explained and everyone is just ramping up their fanfics. The only thing she says is that she's going to meander off.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I want to drag everyone down to the bottom level of existence because I like eating poop and people made fun of me for it.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    where is the fricking dlc WHERE

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marika's problem is that she's a kunt. A KUNT. Bollocks. Fat bollocks.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You think the DLC will actually feature anything special if you bothered to burn the tree with the frenzied flame and used the needle to purge the flame afterwards or will it be ignored again?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fromsoft dlcs almost never have anything relevant to do with the story. Ds3 was weird because there was a singular recurring NPC like patches that became the final boss.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would agree if it wasn't Miquella's needle used for all that.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only reason she chimped out, is because her favorite son (blond like her) got assassinated. She hates all her redhead kids, let alone the abominations.

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The entire world
    What? I thought the Erd Tree shit was a Land's Between exclusive?

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am still pretty new to the game but I am nearing the ending. Do I HAVE to burn the tree or should I be looking around for another solution?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, you have to burn the tree

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The GW doesn't exist!

    For this to be true, the Elden Beast would need to be its own thing and not something sent by the GW. And if it is its own thing, how the frick does a creature that arrives from outside a planet have the power to govern the laws of reality on said planet? And if your answer to this question is that the Elden Beast in itself is a god, then could it not be argued that the Elden Beast itself is the GW?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the outer gods are japanese kami, aspects of nature and concepts, there is only 1 true capital G God and thats the Greater Will, the elden beast is just the outer got of order that the greater will sent to govern the earth and is comparable to the god of scarlet rot or the flame of frenzy, elden ring is a christian game

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She's a woman.
    i.e: she don't want anyone above her and is willing to destroy everything to have what she wants.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So is the Greattree actually a real thing separate from the Erdtree or not?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is the Erdtree.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What are you basing that assertion on?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If the Greattree is the Erdtree, then why does no one ever refer to the Erdtree as the Greattree in their dialog? If it's just an alternative term for it then surely someone would use it at least once?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If the Greattree is the Erdtree
          It is. You'll get it when you play the game and get off the wiki sites. There is the erdtree, minor erdtrees, and the haligtree.
          You gotta stop listening to the discord sisters, just play the game.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So answer my question then, why does no one ever speak the term "Greattree" in game?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because it doesn't exist. Talking about it like it does or is a mistranslation is a discord meme.
              When you play the game you'll get why anons laugh at the sisters for it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But the term "Greattree" appears several times in item descriptions, all of which seem to be referring to past eras of the world. What's your explanation for that?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The great tree Is the actual tree. It is what people worshiped before the erd tree, which is really the gold that encompasses it. It's like a parasite/symbiote. The silurias spear says that it was worshipped before the erd tree and that it was the crucible from which all life spring forth, like the fire pit shown in dark souls 1 opening cinematic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                or you know the giant glowing tree in the middle of the map is a theme of the map and doesn't actually have any lore

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It's like a parasite/symbiote
                Prove it.
                >inb4 "dude it's obvious, you fascist"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Siluria's Tree, weapon of one of the two honored as foremost among the Crucible Knights.

                The primordial form of the Erdtree is close in nature to life itself, and this spear, modeled on its crucible, is imbued with ancient holy essence.

                In other words, the crucible is the erdtree. In other words, you don't know what you are saying

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the erd tree, which is really the gold that encompasses it. It's like a parasite/symbiote
                what the frick am i reading

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I longstanding discord shitposting topic others know to ignore.
                They also like to imply the tree burned before, that is why it is withered.

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    before a civilazation can heal, everything has to come crashing down

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the 'cord is spamming the same topics in seethe again
    you love to see it. Why couldn't they understand the lore bros?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why couldn't they understand the lore bros?
      The alchemical and gnostic principles it derives from imply an absolute moralism. To get it you have to innately understand right and wrong or good and evil.

      What are you basing that assertion on?

      Elden Ring.

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How bad does the world end up if you take the shit farter ending?

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >first son gets omegakilled and turned into an undead merman creature that spreads superdeath everywhere
    >twin sons come out as abominations under the Erdtree when they literally would've been based had the Crucible still been accepted, first one is a beaten housewife for the Golden Order and the other turns into Super Blood Devil
    >kids you had in your magical troony phase can't actually succeed you, one turns into a snake and the other turns herself into a doll to tell your religion to frick itself then fricks off to the moon
    >your selfborn incest babies are also abominations for a different reason, daughter literally has supergiga-AIDS built into her DNA
    >her twin is a cute little eternal shota and your best shot at having a true heir
    >he gets kidnapped and raped deeper into a coma by your Super Blood Devil son
    MARIKA.... HAD A HARD LIFE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She should have closed her legs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      she abandoned her firstborn and second son just because they were omens, mohg turned out evil because of her bad parenting

  85. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >caring about a israelite writer's plot

    AND he managed to still put incest and pedophilia into it. Old ass pervert.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Incest pedo is a bad guy
      >The biggest bad guy in the quest that he is a part of
      What did miyazaki mean by this guyz??? :000

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >biggest bad guy
        This is wrong. Mohg just stole his brother and went underground. Nothing above ground is his doing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >In the quest he is a part of

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He had nothing to do with dark souls 2, and that game was pretty much entirely women's fault too
      Methinks it's just a fromsoft thing

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He had nothing to do with dark souls 2, and that game was pretty much entirely women's fault too
        >Methinks it's just a fromsoft thing
        dont you have boys to go molest, GRRM?

  86. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    inb4 the person we see in the DLC reveal goes specifically by Trina, not Miquella, and is a soul sharer rather than being the same entity. Miquella is dormant or DEEEEEEAAAAAAD!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      st trina calling us to help her save her other half actually sounds like a solid plot starter

  87. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Just the barest touch of the Formless Mother is intensely agonizing and severs your finger

    How do people even get roped into Mohg's dynasty bullshit when the joining ritual is already a satanic self-mutilation practice?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How do people even get roped into Mohg's dynasty bullshit when the joining ritual is already a satanic self-mutilation practice?
      Remember how in the original assassin's creed games the assassin had to cut off a finger so the blade would have a place to pop out from?
      >assassin with a finger removed
      original isn't it?

  88. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Miquella was a male? And what the FRICK is an empyrian, a freaky grey-white pale alien?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Little boys have been historically consorts to many a men.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the kind of tired sleep can't fix

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Empyrians were meant to be Marika's direct inheritors: the potential new Queens (which included, Miquella, yes).

  89. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The GW is benevolent. Marika abused the power she was given and the GW was going to replace her with Ranni. Then both of them got conniptions over the whole thing and thus we have the events of ER.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      t. two fingered GW simp

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, the only bad thing the GW ever did was banish the Nox from the surface but they fricking EARNED it with their bullshit.

  90. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was up with Gold mask?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He realized that power should only lie in the hands of god, not mortal "gods".

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was pissed off that the divine perfection of the golden order was ruined because they gave it to a human vessel, who still retained her human imperfections which tainted the golden order.

      He wishes for the golden order to act without a vessel, so it can be truly perfect

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when your autism is so advanced an interpreter is needed to translate your thoughts

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >interpreter is max autistic also
        it might be a broken order

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He became autistic enough to defeat god in an argument

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Mending Rune of Perfect Order he gives you is literally just a drawing depicting the demigods as the crying wojaks and himself as the chad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we originally planned for there to be a way for you to alter the elden ring and this NPC kind of has something to do with that .jpg

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Elden ring really had a lore.
        Originally, that is.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      His T-posing brings despair to his disciples.

  91. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    crazy that Placidusax caused everything by being born with 5 heads , allowing him to make initial contact with the Greater Will

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Four heads* or else the talisman is just wrong.
      Elden ring originally had a lore

  92. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aaah, may chaos take the world

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >running Inescapable Frenzy in arena and catching people off guard with it at random times
      >as long as the animation starts and you land the grab they'll die first and you get the win even if you trade damage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get thee gone, israeli demon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >same voice as the female undead merchant in ds1

  93. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pretend """"lore"""""

  94. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Those who gave me grapes howled without words.
    Saying they wished they were never born.

    Become their lord.
    Take their torment, despair.
    Their affliction.
    Every sin, every curse.
    And melt it all away. As the Lord of Chaos.

    No more fractures...no more birth...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly it would get suck to get hit by an outside force and then being broken down into basic components each living a life of suffering.
      Maybe the frenzied flame has a point.

  95. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Will we learn more about the blind swordsman and the "water fairy"? Tha sounds cool to me

  96. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MARIKA'S breasts IM HUNGRY

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