>NOOO I Don't WANT TO OWN MY MILLION DOLLAR INN
>NOO I DON'T WANT TO BE AN ARTIST
>NOOO I DON'T WANT TO INHERIT MY DAD'S MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
> NOOO I WANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY OUTSIDE OF MY MILLION DOLLAR FORTUNE
Why are the P4 party such hypocrites?
This is also why people these days cant relate to Homer Simpson
>nooooo I have a hot wife, a 2 floors house, a big garden, 3 kids, easy job, noooo I'm so depressed
Pretty much like when nips want to give a lesson about racism when they barely have immigration.
There is literally nothing wrong in inheriting a business, that literally solves your life and makes you free
I can't relate to Homer, but I can relate to Seymour Skinner far more than any other character in that show
You stole someone's identity?
Are the sitcoms of the fuutre just going to be about living in your car and eating ze bugs?
People watch that garden gnome Larry David show and I'm sure he's filthy rich, so I doubt it.
>noooo I'm so depressed
>Homer Simpson
Homer isn't depressed
>NOOO I DON'T WANT TO INHERIT MY DAD'S MILLION DOLLAR COMPANY
Who's this? Yosuke's dad was just a manager, no? Although that is pretty much Haru in P5, I guess.
Haru's situation was different, her dad had just died and the company's execs were trying to manipulate her and eventually oust her from the company
Haru just knew she had no idea what she was doing. She didn't expect to get her dads company let alone have him die. She was mostly scared of people manipulating her as they knew she didnt know any better
Are you familiar with the phrase "the grass is always greener on the other side"
>NOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE AN EASY LIFE WITH PEOPLE IN THE BOONIES
Why is Adachi such a bitch?
Wanting to have the higher moral ground while having experienced nothing of life is a teenager thing, if anything they are the right people to confront Adachi
The Persona series is filled with kids throwing “tantrums”.
Is Ultimax worth playing for Adachi?
Remember, the fightan and dancing games are canon.
So yes, at least play Ultimax to get his conclusion.
Ignore DAN.
the dancing games have a story?
Only the first (P4) one, but it's ass and adds nothing to the overall arc.
yes, all of them do
p4d is rise's game, there is a proper story
p3d/p5d story is basically elizabethbait and its pretty thin
it's just "muh bonds" repeated a thousand times
imagine having villains that can be boiled down like this
But
>Adults bad
>my life is nothing but misery and only talent matters in life
>has a pretty nice job as a detective
so was he one of the talented ones or was he just blowing smoke?
From what I remember he had stereotypical asian parents who made him work his ass off at school and made him believe it would pay off but he ended up a friendless loser instead since he never worked on social skills or had any real goals
>>has a pretty nice job as a detective
He was salty over being sent to a countryside town over his own fuck-up, not sure how "talent" was supposed to be a factor there
>work his ass off at school and made him believe it would pay off but he ended up a friendless loser instead since he never worked on social skills or had any real goals
Worst part is I can really relate to that
His only talent was being the best marksman in the police academy which was stated in ultimax. Academically, who knows. the P4G anime did show that it seems he only ever studied and not do social links.
How the fuck do you miss the point of the shadows in P4? It's so blunt it may as well be beating you over the head with a bat. The shadows in P4 are reflections of each character's worries about how other perceive them. Kanji doesn't want to be seen as a fag for his hobbies so his shadow is a turboqueer, as an example. The original OP before P4G shit it up even makes a point of framing every single character through a camera of some kind to emphasize the theme of "THIS GAME IS ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN HOW YOU PERCEIVE YOURSELF AND HOW OTHERS PERCEIVE YOU".
wasn't it revealed that its actually how the public sees you and not how they see themselves?
You misunderstand. Shadows are supposed to be an exaggerated form of your own insecurities over whatever you cover with your persona. Kanji's worried that his feminine hobbies might make him look like a queermo, so his shadow is a cocksucker. Teddy's worried that he's empty, so his shadow is a soulless husk.
Like, to use a non-game example, if you had a guy who looks like a bodybuilder but is secretly into /a/-core moeblob slice of life shows, his shadow would probably be a Ken-sama tier weeb version of himself wearing a kemono and holding a daki of his favorite girl. Shit like that.
what about the scene with Namatame in the hospital? his shadow acts how the investigation team perceives him, not how he felt deep down
Wasn't that more of a possession than an actual shadow?
It's both, which is why Chie and Yosuke's shadows look like them - they're the only party members who aren't shown on the Midnight Channel. In contrast, Kanji, Rise, and Naoto's shadows all take in elements of what the public thinks of them. It's why Kanji's so gay, Rise's bust is too big, and Naoto's a literal child
The things he's quoting are from their S-Links, not their Shadows.
It's crazy how much the themes of perception and truth go over so many people's heads even though the game is super obvious about it.
Kunino-sagiri wasn't Namatame's shadow, but with that said, it does have an angel/jesus theme which matches up with the fact that Namatame genuinely believed he was saving people's lives by pushing them into TVs. He had developed a savior complex by that point.
I think the best example of what anon meant was Yukiko. Yukiko's shadow featured a caged bird. Yukiko was not perceived as a caged bird by the masses. She was looked at with admiration and even envy by some. She was the pretty and smart girl, the heiress to an old inn that served as one of the few things Inaba could even consider a tourist attraction. By all means, people looked at her like she was blessed. But Yukiko herself felt trapped. It's not that she didn't want to inherit the inn, it's that she felt she was being railroaded into it, that she had no choice or agency in her own future, and therefore her shadow took the form of a caged bird.
There's a level of subtlety that I didn't notice until someone pointed it out to me: Shadow Yukiko's cage is open. She could leave anytime she wants, and she knows it. What she wants is someone *else* to come and take her away. With that in mind, the theme of *choosing* to run the inn throughout her social link makes more sense (not that it didn't before).
It's a gilded cage and IIRC one of Yukiko's worries was that she wouldn't have support from her family. That's a good detail you've pointed out, but do you think it might be interpreted as her fear of losing her family's support if she tries to go out on her own? That she'd be trading safety for the agency she wants.
I'll be honest, this is a case of listening to a youtuber who doesn't have their head up their arse and agreeing with it. The idea is that the ideal of the Priestess Arcana is the wisdom to make choices, and it's something she grows inot over her social link. And it ties into the recurring theme of Shadow Yukiko's desire for a prince charming to save her.
https://www.youtube.comwatch?v=zfBSSYfIvyg
But it's kinda hard to leave when you'd be alienating your family or perhaps your entire town.
It's not as simple as just saying "CYA!"
>Kanji doesn't want to be seen as a fag for his hobbies so his shadow is a turboqueer, as an example.
Kanji's shadow has nothing to do with being gay.
It's his growing resentment of women and being afraid of liking unmasculine things.
Whether he's gay or not is ambiguous, but his dungeon has nothing to do with it.
>Kanji's shadow has nothing to do with being gay.
Wrong. Takes some cultural context, but in Japan the obsession with masculinity is considered to be very gay. As Kanji tries his best to look and act like a man, it feeds into that very context. It becomes a spiral where he feels like he'll be labeled a homo no matter what he does. Gay if he does, gay if he doesn't.
>but in Japan the obsession with masculinity is considered to be very gay.
Bara is niche, man. Someone like Bon Clay from One Piece is what the average Japanese person think gay people are like. Nobody in Japan thinks Fist of the north Star or Yakuza is gay outside of fujos.
>t becomes a spiral where he feels like he'll be labeled a homo no matter what he does. Gay if he does, gay if he doesn't.
Whether he likes men or not is irrelevant. He even said so himself.
Listen to his Shadow. Largely the only reason he's so flamboyant gay is because of how much he despises how girls treated him.
His never even said he liked men for it's own sake, just that after dealing with girls, men are much better.
>Ganker memes about the characters that actually have relatable insecurities and believable arcs
>meanwhile yosuke's shadow is him complaining about being bored
>meanwhile chie's shadow is a dominatrix because...she really likes yukiko?
>relatable
spoiled brat needs correction
Pretty sure Chie's shadow's whole deal was about Chie being worried others would see her as sucking up to the town rich kid.
yosuke's shadow is him complaining about being bored
Yosuke's shadow represented his fear of being perceived as a shallow, callous invader. That's why his shadow looks like an alien monster.
chie's shadow is a dominatrix because...she really likes yukiko?
Chie is a tomboy. In her friendship with Yukiko, she's the more assertive and dominant one by far, which are considered unfeminine traits. The dominatrix shadow is a reflection of her anxieties over being unfeminine, and the hint that people might perceive her as a lesbian is linked to that.
I can forgive those two shadows being as shallow as they are because the game is trying to build up your party as soon as possible. There's really no time to give Yosuke and Chie more complicated shadows if you want to have a decent party for the first dungeon.
yosuke's shadow is him complaining about being bored
It's about him being special and wanted. I mean not only does he get shit for his dad being a manager of Junes and running stores out of business, his crush turns out to hate his guts.
PArt of the reason he wanted to go into the tv is just because of the spectacle (even though primarily he wanted to avenge saki's death)
Shadows are exaggerations of your true feelings.
>meanwhile chie's shadow is a dominatrix because...she really likes yukiko?
Her shadow is a dominatrix because she "dominates" yukiko, and having someone admired and attractive being at her mercy is something she enjoys. This obviously isn't true, but shadows are an exaggerated forms with a grain of truth, in that Chie is jealous of Yukiko.
Shadow Chie is sitting on top of two other students because she's using their submission of them to prop herself up.
I'm just here to post Yukiko
what the fuck was her problem!?
>all these people who were born into success talking down to some fucking loser
lmao
lol
Here's a template. It can relate to rabid leftist activists throwing temper tantrums in public.
why is everyone in-universe so fucking hard on this dude?
Sometimes universe just hates your guts for no reason.
He's basically a Ganker user. Tries way too hard, feeling sorry for himself all the time, sexualizes girls that are obviously not into him, runs jokes into the ground, is mean spirited, probably a closet gay. Literally like 70% of the posters here are like this. He was easily the least interesting party member. Funnily enough Chie also was incredibly flat as a character, she gets all the tomboy hype and lewd posting but in game she's like some 90 IQ girl that life's beef and kung fu and that's literally it.
>2023 weebs and retards still seethe about Adachi
>one of the only two well written character (unintentionally) in the garbage anime game
In Japanese retarded culture and braindead society, friendly and joking guys are regarded as obnoxious therefore they need every bad thing to happen to them.
I love my friend Yukiko!
I don't know why but friendzoning her and going after Chie felt good.
>You're my classmate
that's fucking brutal
>many thousands do this unwittingly in IRL life every day
Brutal
the party didn't murder anybody over it, that's the difference
Great vegetables
Post more Chie
do actual adults really play this kindergarten slop?
ITT: OP outs himself as a retard who doesn't understand the meaning of 'hypocrite'.
Persona 5 had the same problem.
Nu-Persona characters are too well-off.
We need some dirt poor working class characters in Persona 6.
Persona works like every other anime. The main cast is basically perfect. They have no real flaws or issues whatsoever or the player might not like them. Their solution to their problems is similarly childish.
>if I punch this monster who clearly represents my mental issues then everything will be fixed
It is no different from the childish thinking of
>beating the final boss is a clear cut and final solution to all my problems
This is why writers have issues with writing characters like Adachi because they make too much sense.
yeah it's called being a teenager retard
BITCHES AND WHORES
So why do incels love Adachi so much?
He's a depressed loser with no friends who wants pussy.
only this retarded gay board would unironically defend adachi lmao
>NOOOO... you can't delete suffering from this world !!! Stop granting everyone's wishes and make them live their best life, Maruki !!! We need to suffer because *sniff* WAAAAHHHHH... I had to suffer so everyone else have to, kill Futaba's mom again, and change Morgana back into a cat, I beg you... *sob*
15 years later, Persona 4 still fosters so much discussion.