Now that a new generation is being exposed to it as we speak can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?
Now that a new generation is being exposed to it as we speak can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?
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Wait, people say this when other m exists?
People say this when it comes to the 2D games despite 1 and II existing. At the time of release it was literally just slightly worse than Super and that's it.
I just hate how easy and samey most of the overworld is, and how hard (in a tedious, annoying way) some of the bosses are. Balance is all over the place. Also the nightmare boss that takes up the entire GBA screen is pure bullshit
>I just hate how easy
It's a Nintendo game.
that's no excuse. Dread has somewhat difficult bosses that are fun to fight. BotW allows you to challenge yourself by letting you drop your gear or replace hearts with stamina, plus the Master Trials. Even Mario Odyssey has more challenging content, it's just optional.
Super is a true 10/10 game. have a nice day
Maybe if you're a speedrun chud.
1 is incredibly janky but the world is well designed imo, I can't comment on vanilla 2 since I played with a color patch but it wasn't too bad either and the ending was cool
that doesnt count, Nintendo pretends it doesnt exist (they explicitly called Dread Metroid 5)
Anon...
>Metroid (1)
>Metroid 2 (2)
>Super (3)
>Fusion (4)
>Dread (5)
You are why the internet is worse now.
Other M is 3.5 and obviously wouldn't be Metroid 5. They reference it in Dread with rewards as well, so clearly Nintendo doesn't pretend it doesn't exist.
>an image
WOOOOOW, Such reference!
This meme needs to end.
Maybe you just need to stop coping, lol
Another M is cannon, take a deep breath and take it in
The "mainline" Metroid series is just the 2D games. The 3D games are still canon they're just treated as spin-offs.
>The 3D games are still canon they're just treated as spin-offs.
not true, the recent survey has both the 2D games and the prime games are the main games, other M is explicitly not included tho
just because something isn't numbered doesn't mean it isn't mainline. prime series and other M is mainline. prime pinball and federation force are spinoffs
when was other M ever implied to be metroid 5? did anyone call it that around release? both super metroid and fusion were called 3 and 4 in the games themselves
No, it wasn't. It takes place between Super and Fusion, even, so it can't be Metroid 5.
It's a side story, just like the Prime games.
never, he's shitposting to drum up a narrative
Fusion is quite literally just 2D Other M.
>the game that came first is this game that came later!
Son...
Yes. Absolutely everything wrong with Other M was done in Fusion first.
The correct phrase is "Other M is Fusion but in 3D", because it came after Fusion.
Ah yes I too remember the pixel hunting in Fusion
yeah it was pretty bad
>can't climb the ledges
>"hmmm I wonder what I should do?"
>Get sealed in a tiny space with limited options
>Still can't figure it out
>>Get sealed in a tiny space with limited options
You mean like the pixel hunts in Other M?
I don't get it.
(1/2)
Not that anon but this is Metroid Fusion's very own "Noob" moment, though not the only one. It filters a lot of new players and it's the very first roadblock. It occurs after you get the Morph Ball Bombs in Sector 2 (TRO).
You enter this room, and once you drop down the ledge and kill some enemies you realize that you've become locked and can't leave, as none of your jumps reach high enough to grab the ledge. The solution is that you have to place a bomb on one of the segment of the floor, which will raise a platform that will allow you to jump over a progress. This room attempts to tutorialize the player the usefulness in bombing EVERYTHING, which is a staple of 2D Metroid.
Why this filters people:
>First time Metroid players never know to bomb everything, this is something you begin to realize much later as you famliarize yourself with Metroid, but this room is fairly early in the game AND you just got the morph ball bomb not even 5 minutes ago, so most aren't familiarized enough yet to learn this in that short time frame
>Prior to entering the room the places to use the bombs were obvious, so they've been trained to look for more obvious markers to bomb. This room in contrast has no obvious markers whatsoever
>bombing random segments in Super that raised platforms were pretty rare and from what I recall never mandatory to progress (I could be wrong, been a while). So it's very possible that even if you played Super before you'd not think this this is the solution, especially so early in the game
>If those segments in Super were mandatory (again been a while), bombing places that raised platforms often took place in very obvious spots where you know you want to be in Morph Ball mode. This room however was not one of those rooms, in fact the first thing you do in this room is combat to shoot some small enemies
(2/2)
>So far most have been taught to bomb corners or up against walls. However, where the platform rises is actually NOT right next to any wall, it's actually one block over. So if you do have the bright idea to bomb the corner, nothing will happen, and you may be left confused. You have to continuously bomb one step over to be rewarded
It's not as bad as other more obtuse ways Fusion wants you to progress (ironic thing about Fusion despite to it's handholding linear ways) but even though you're locked in and just got the morph bomb I don't think it's particularly good design, even if I understand why they did it. Super in general felt like it taught the player things in a much more natural way. This room occurs far too early and prior you were taught the wrong lessons that will actually hinder the average newcomer.
The only bad thing about this part was how finnicky the hitbox for the platform was. Otherwise it's pretty self explanatory what to do if you have any basic knowledge about metroid games
>Literally just get power up you're explicitly told is for if you get trapped.
>Using it every where possible would take about 15 seconds
>MUH BAD GAME DESIGN
I figured that shit out instantly when I was 9.
Nah dude. Other M was retarded anime fanfiction the completely fucked Samus' and Adam's characters up. Fusion was fine story and character-wise.
Boomer garbage that should've stayed forgotten like the rest of this gay series
Or course not, Other M is the bottom of the barrel.
That's a little harsh considering that 1, 2, and Other M exist. 4 is painfully railroaded though.
2 is perfectly fine. It doesn't have the confusing map of 1, it introduced a bunch of extra mechanics, and while linear at least doesn't interrupt you every few minutes
2 plays like ass. that's not acceptable
>1
>Confusing map
Once it's understood that Metroid 1 is just a set of vertical shafts it gets easier to navigate.
It always was in my top 3 out of the 2D ones.
My current top 3 being Dread, Fusion and Zero Mission
Super Metroid is overrated shit that controls like stiff ASS today, it didn't age well compared to the GBA ones.
>Super Metroid is overrated shit that controls like stiff ASS today
Never understood this honestly. I can go between Fusion or AM2R or Super or Zero Mission without even blinking.
Zero Mission is more overrated than Super is
This
What the fuck are you retards even talking about? The only time people bring up ZM is to shit on the 10 minute post-game stealth segment or to bitch about it being too handholding for the map waypoint or the comic book artstyle “ruining” the atmosphere of the first game. Meanwhile retards, especially on this board, claim Fusion is even better than Super all the time despite doing everything ZM did wrong 50 times worse. But SA-X being soooooper spoopy is such a meme at this point I guess it gets a pass for everything.
Whenever I see people bring up Zero Mission in recent years it's to say that it's better than Super almost entirely because it controls better (which I don't even agree with, I first played Super after playing Zero Mission and had no problems), despite it feeling like a watered down Super in most other respects.
>Meanwhile retards, especially on this board, claim Fusion is even better than Super all the time despite doing everything ZM did wrong 50 times worse
Unlike Zero Mission, Fusion wasn't trying to follow the usual Metroid formula and made no attempt to obfuscate that fact. It's a fully linear experience from start to finish and is designed around that fact, which is why it succeeds.
You literally just proved him right, retard. Holy fucking doublethink
>You literally just proved him right, retard
How? By disagreeing with him?
For sucking off fusion for being a shitty deviation of the established formula like it’s some kind of accomplishment, because you know, metroid fans aren’t interested in playing a metroid game apparently. You’re like those gays that thought the last jedi was amazing because it “subverted your expectations”
Last Jedi was amazing because of its mise en scene and artistry, dumbass
>You’re like those gays that thought the last jedi was amazing because it “subverted your expectations”
You retard, Other M is the TLJ of Metroid, not Fusion
OM is actually Empire, but you're just too stupid to recognize it.
Other M is The Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones of Metroid, you braindead retard
The boss fights are fucking easy and pose absolutely no challenge, which in tur makes collection and 100% completion moot since you just shit on the game's difficulty.
I dislike zero mission alot, and I praise Samus Returns because the end game of that game is tuned to you having alot of power ups as well.
>I praise Samus Returns
Opinion discarded
Zero Mission is infinitely worse than Fusion.
You don't get to call Zero Mission overrated unless you've 100%ed it in <2 hours. Otherwise, you were just filtered.
>why does a SPACE game feel FLOATY
But anon, your on a planet not in space
Samus has a JETPACK you idiot ! that's why there is no fall damage and why she jumps so high. ...I think.
>Samus
>using her jetpack
Is way smoother than that low gravity shit heap that was the zero mission and fusion fuvk off. Super was and always will be amazing. Cope seethe and dilate
>Super Metroid is overrated shit that controls like stiff ASS today, it didn't age well compared to the GBA ones.
This, the only way it's remotely playable these days is with the redux hack and gba gravity.
retard
Super still has some of the most crisp controls out of any game. Playing it is immensely satisfying because of how precise it is.
nothing feels better than Metroid at times
>Super Metroid is overrated shit
Zoomers need to leave
It's one of the best 2D Metroids along with Super and Dread.
It never was. It's better than Metroid 1, Metroid 2, Other M, Federation Force, Prime Hunters and Samus Returns. When people say the worst they usually mean 'worst of the best', as in the Prime Trilogy, Super, Zero Mission, Dread set of games.
I forgot to put Metroid Prime Pinball in the best category
It's the only Metroid I actively hate
Other M doesn't exist in my reality, shut up
I have never heard anyone say that.
It was always good. It only started getting hate after Other M because that game is heavily tied to it and exacerbates Fusion’s biggest problems.
I can separate Fusion from Other M because I'm not an autist.
SA-XOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I always read it as Sax instead of SA-X and I've never been able to kick that habit it
Don't lewd SA-X you weirdo.
>t. relatively new Metroidfag whose only beaten Prime 1, Super, Dread and Samus Returns
Game's fun despite the linearity, but it desperately needs a skip dialogue option like Dread does. Also, I feel like I'm drowning in freebie expansions and it's only sector 2.
dread doesn't let you skip dialogue
what are you talking about
you still get locked in rooms and have to mash through text constantly
>5 seconds of mashing A in Dread
>Fusion pauses after every dialogue box
One's leagues ahead over the other.
Super > Fusion > Zero Mission > Dread > Samus Returns > Metroid OG NES
>no metroid 2
Super > Zero Mission > Prime > AM2R > Metroid > Metroid 2 > Fusion > Prime 3 > Prime 2
haven't played federation force / other m or dread
pinball and hunters were both great but i don't know where to put them really
how the fug have you not played Dread yet? It's the best 2Dtroid yet.
I don't like this gay ass fucked up idea of including AM2R in anything. What are you fucks, zoomers?
>Super > Zero Mission > Prime > AM2R > Metroid > Metroid 2 > Fusion > Prime 3 > Prime 2
This has to be the most retarded list I have ever seen in my life. The fact that Prime 2 (while not as good as prime 1) is listed last and AFTER prime 3 is laughable.
prime 3 was mechanically good, it had a great control scheme and some good setpieces. Prime 2 introduced NPCs and unskippable dialogue to the prime series and for that reason it is the worst of the primes. Fusion is the worst of the 2d metroids for similar reasons.
>prime 3 was mechanically good
Not really, the really messed up the implementation of the Phazon Beam
>Use it and everything dies
>The fact you lose health doesn't matter cause enemies drop health all the time
>If you don't use it enemies are beam sponges
All they had to do was reduce the amount of healing spawns, but they can't do that cause Metroid Prime can't be difficult since the console is mainly aimed at kids
Its like everytime the devs get a cool idea, they get cucked by Nintendo's demographic of choice
It can be hard, that's one of the complaints people have for Echoes.
Metroid prime 1 and 2 were legit hard on gamecube. The difficulty was changed with the wii version and the remaster to be much easier. The default normal mode on wii and the remaster was "easy" on the gamecube. The unlockable "hard" mode for the wii and remaster was the default "normal" mode on the gamecube. The prime games used to be really tough and rewarding but now they're pretty easy and it's a shame most people don't experience them like they're meant to be
>Metroid prime 1
NTA but no, even on gamecube it's piss easy. I was very surprised during my first time how Easy prime was, i figured Prime 3's easiness was just a fluke, but turns out Prime 2's difficulty was the real fluke.
>prime hard
Impossible I was shit at games as a kid and beat it. Even with Echoes's ammunition system.
>The unlockable "hard" mode for the wii and remaster was the default "normal" mode on the gamecube
No anon, the unlocked "hypermode" difficulty is the gamecube "hard". Wii's "veteran" difficulty is gamecube normal, and is available from the start. Remasterd's "normal" and "hard" are the same as the gamecube version.
Out of the games people actually care about it's probably my least favorite. Still a great game though.
Second worst next to other M (fusion 2)
Technically Other M is Fusion 0
It never was. Even at the time it was way better than 1 and 2, and honestly, it has some good enhancements over Super, it's just not QUITE as good of a game.
As a straight action game experience, Fusion might be better than Super. The controls feel better, and the boss fights are really grand and exciting. Lots of fun stuff going on there, like hanging off ladders while blasting enemies.
Ever notice how whenever there is a list of Bad Metroid games, nobody ever brings up THIS
Because it's not a bad game?
that game is amazing, fuck you
I have absolutely no idea what constitutes a good or bad pinball game
Pinball is all about the feel of slamming those balls or how they bounce off surfaces.
Because it’s a Metroid themed pinball game, not a Metroid game. Only pinball enthusiasts are interested in and capable or articulating as to whether or not it qualifies as a good pinball game or not
It's Pinball
I liked it, the only reason you believe its bad is because some youtubers have been pushing a "this game is.. LE BAD!" narrative just to farm views.
And YOU fell for it like the idiot that you are.
it was always the best until Dread dethroned it
It was an amazing game. If only we got a pixel remaster of it.
who the hell said that Fusion was bad? that game freaked me the fuck out when I was a kid
contrarians
Fusion was always highly rated
Prime>Corruption>Hunters=Echoes
the romhack that adds bombjumping and walljumping on the same wall is pretty fun, I'd recommend giving it a try
I'm starting to think I'm fighting a boss way before I should be
I just keep getting my ass kicked
>no varia suit
>no wide beam
what the fuck
how
https://www.inverteddungeon.com/index.php?section=metroid&page=rando_mfor_metroid_fusion_open_randomizer
this is how its possible to do that. Try it its really fucking fun. The game world is ridiculously well balanced for this kind of hack.
Nah I'm just playing Special Edition
https://metroidconstruction.com/hack.php?id=659
Seems fine
Get good, if kid me could beat this boss on his first try your boomer reflexes can too.
And I'm sure your kid ass was underequipped from sequence breaking like his boomer relexes were too. It's no wonder he's getting his ass kicked. Assuming they're even getting kicked at all since he's obviously lying in SOME capacity.
How hard does he hit without the Varia Suit?
I'll make notes during the next fight.
Yes, that was the joke.
Contact with the flames hits for roughly 40
Contact with the first form hits for roughly 60
Getting caught and purposefully not escaping will deal roughly 300 total
Contact with the second form hits for roughly 30
Contact with the bugs it spits out hits for roughly 40
Contact with the Core X hits for roughly 40
anon god damnit the core xs are supposed to be easy how did you fuck that up
Can you really say you truly played Fusion if you've never beaten a boss only to choke on the Core X?
You're fighting him wrong, you're supposed to stay in place, aim up, and shoot Missiles. This is 99% of the reason people think this fight is hard, they don't do this
That requires tanking hits and that Anon is deliberately fighting it early meaning his damage output and defenses are lower. He'd never survive.
>Watching someone fight Nightmare for like 2 hours because at first try kept trying to shoot it's gravity manipulator with missiles and then once it's face was exposed kept trying to shoot it with charge shots
How do these people function?
Just morph ball in the bottom left corner, retard. He literally can’t hit you there
>He literally can't hit you there
Literally not true. If it starts flying at certain angles it will hit you and there's nothing stopping it from dropping a bug overhead.
Plus anon is deliberately underequipped and likely doesn't even have enough missiles to finish the fight, meaning he'd have to get up in order to start charging.
Retard.
Why is the giant spider monster called Yakuza?
he spits fire like a dragon
I remember I accidentally did this with Bloodless in Bloodstained
>first time playing
>exploring after getting the double jump
>go up the candles to her part of the castle
>die a couple times and then cheese her with items
>fight the final boss way early
>get bad ending
The Most Kino Metroid
You can always tell what games have the best atmosphere by how it inspires fans to attempt to recreate it
And yes, that means Metroid II (A2MR) and Fusion (X Fusion).
Best games in the entire franchise, Nintendo started going kid friendly in the 2000s and that gutted the space horror theme of early Super Metroid, which has turned Metroid into this half assed attempt at copying Halo's Sucess but without retaining its original SOUL
Only Fusion and Dread really go that hard at being straight horror games, so I don't see how you figure.
Prime 1 is pretty much just Super Metroid in 3D, and 2 and 3 are weirdo experimental takes on the formula.
Metroid II is also a horror game, but the remake didn't capture that well
AM2R did tho
God what an awful boss
>spit
>headbutt headbutt headbutt
>spit
>headbutt headbutt headbutt
>repeat for THE ENTIRE BOSS FIGHT
The Metroid fights are easily AM2R's weakest aspect and I think people overlook it too much considering what a major part of the game it is. Zetas and Omegas in particular suck balls.
As opposed to?
AM2R Metroid Queen is the best fight of any 2D metroid lol
>AM2R Metroid Queen is the best fight of any 2D metroid lol
Diggernaut would like a word with you.
>Not Proteus Ridley
He's the best 2D boss even though it ruins the ending of 2.
It's too bad that none of the excellent Super Metroid hacks are included. Some of them are on-par with AM2R.
All they had to do was have SR end normally, but then transition into an epilogue where you play through the intro to Super except with a proper Ridley fight at the end
>All they had to do was have SR end normally, but then transition into an epilogue where you play through the intro to Super except with a proper Ridley fight at the end
That would've had people expecting a Super Metroid remake.
>All they had to do was have SR end normally, but then transition into an epilogue where you play through the intro to Super except with a proper Ridley fight at the end
Possibly the best idea for dealing with SR
Shame Nintendo never thought of it
How did it ruin II's ending?
>Breaks the whole ending of Metroid II peaceful and reflective walk back to the ship with the baby Metroid after a long adventure
>Implies Ridley died and became a X parasite despite X not being thing in Super
>Implies Ridley died and became a X parasite despite X not being thing in Super
What? The Hornoad was infected by an X-parasite, you twit, Ridley took off after Samus soon after she left.
Ridley didn't die you node. He shed his robotic stuff and farted off to deep space. If anything it ruins the intro to Super because the whole point of that (I think) is that Samus thought she'd routed the main pirate threat in Metroid (Or more specifically Prime 3 of you consider Roidley the main threat) for two games before Zero Mission retconned it.
Been a while since you played Super, hasn't it? Samus only mentions that she first faced the Metroids on Zebes where she fought Mother Brain, then again on SR388 where she eradicated them except for the larva which she took to Ceres Station where the scientists proclaimed the MEtroids could be used to benefit galactic civilization so Samus was pleased and left to seek a new bounty to hunt only to pick up a distress call from Ceres and doubles back to investigate.
That's why I'm excited for the boss overhaul in 1.5.6.
>being able to summon metroids mid-battle
That's gonna be crazy.
>Which has turned Metroid into this half assed attempt at copying Halo's Sucess
Only Prime 3 and Prime 2 multiplayer apply, anything else would be stupid.
>You can always tell what games have the best atmosphere by how it inspires fans to attempt to recreate it
>completely alien and hostile planet with remnants of an alien civilization rarely seen in media
vs
>generic cartoony space station full of pipes and wires with artificial generic biomes seen a million times before
Wow, what amazing atmosphere, you cancerous gay
>X Fusion
this shit is wiped off google. rundown?
https://metaquarium.wordpress.com/category/x-fusion/
If you've heard of Metroid Super Zero Mission, it's like that. If you haven't, then know that it's an attempt to port Metroid Fusion into Super's engine, but with liberal modifications to the author's taste. He's recently nuked just about every trace of it off the internet aside from his blog, out of fear of Nintendo coming after him, and is taking a "when it's done" approach with sporadic updates. Which is reasonable considering Nintendo's recently started giving Metroid attention again.
cool thank you
Like I said earlier, Fusion, Metroid II, and Dread are the best in the franchise in terms of atmosphere
Well that's an interesting behaviour.
>Single wall jumping
No wonder you missed half the items
I remember finding the game to be very frustrating as a kid but always very fun
I was also genuinely afraid when it does the mask close up
Fusion is great, but replaying it is a pain in the ass
Desperately needs dialogue to move faster
I could never beat Nightmare as a kid.
ME HATE THE POPULAR THING!!!!!!!!!!!
Metroid ins't even popular tho
It was a fun experience but I would not play it again.
It would be 10/10 if the Adam briefings were optional.
Never said it’s the worst, it’s my favorite next to super. Worst is Samus Returns followed by dread. But I don’t really consider those Metroid, more like fangames
It never was.
Fusion is linear, yes, but it has a few memorable moments.
>Seeing Sa-X for the first time
>The whole powerless station part of the game
>Finding the secret lab
>Nightmare
The game was always good, it just tries to do things differently.
Is it better than Super?
Absolutely not, but it is still an amazing game.
Super is literally one of the greatest games ever made, a perfect 10/10, and retarded zoomers are shitting up this thread saying it’s crap, what is this the twilight zone
If Super Metroid is so good, why ins't there a Super Metroid 2?
I'm 33 and I honestly don't understand how most people don't think that Super is even slightly overrated. It literally has to be that the people who say it's the best ever are still under the glamour of playing it at release.
The grime reality of people is that a vast majority of them have their opinions formulated by the dominating popular sentiment at the time and genuinely treat it as gospel above reproach because they are incapable of conceiving ideas of their own since most humans are in fact mindless herd animals. Ganker is proof of this since even though nobody has any reputation or fear of repercussions due to anonymity, anons still coalesce around the most community approved opinions and you get gays like
that lash out and call you a contrarian while in the same breath shitting on CoD
The main counterargument was "too linear" which is dumb. The Prime games are just as linear in practical terms, there's virtually zero flexibility in what order you make progress the vast majority of the time, they just allow you to backtrack at will.
linearity is good. the worst part of all metroid games is wondering around lost wondering where to go
>he Prime games are just as linear in practical terms, there's virtually zero flexibility in what order you make progress the vast majority of the time, they just allow you to backtrack at will.
This is not what people mean dumbass. There is an obvious "order" to how these games progress. The non-linearity is always a bit of an illusion.
The issue is that Fusion has less branching pathways even in casual playthrough. Fusion has doors and gates locked behind you up the ass to prevent you from even exploring where they don't want you to until at least half way through the game (Super does this very few times, Fusion does it too much). You are constantly railroaded in unsubtle ways where to go, you have constant dialogue telling you way to go, you have having NAV POINTS telling you directly where to go.
Metroid games are about being in a labyrinth per official sources. All these design choices are anti-thetical to that.
And that's fine, there's not really anything to explore in the Metroid Prime series outside the chozo scripts you find along the way anyway, or the expansions for missiles
Its not like you can decide to walk out somewhere you are not meant to go anyway
I never understood the appeal of the Prime games. They lack the physics based exploration of SM, are basically linear with backtracking, and barely even offer a challenge. Even in terms of atmosphere they are highly overrated.
I agree, the appeal seems to come from the game being an introduction to many kids into vidya, based on popular culture themes like Alien more than anything else
Why do people keep claiming the Prime games are completely inflexible and linear when people have been sequence-breaking and speed-running them as much as they do with the 2D games for the last twenty years?
because they're retarded or have a stick up their asses about prime overtaking the series. The phrase "sequence break" was coined by the metroid prime speedrun community
>physics based exploration of SM
huh
>are basically linear with backtracking
prime 1 has the same exact progression as super, interconnected focus at the start with a segmented off crashed ship and segmented off major area (phazon mines/miridia) at the end
>barely even offer a challenge
SM is easier than prime, prime 2 is the most challenging game in the series
Player agency. Why do people complain about Other M's ability activation bullshit when it's functionally the same as running into a powerup when the game wants you to? Metroid is all about being linear while making the player think they're finding out where to go on their own. When you have a computer telling you exactly where to go the illusion is broken.
best way to enjoy prime 2, and 3? Never played them.
yes I own a wiiu, so I guess homebrew is an option?
Yeah you can get Prime Trilogy for like 20 bucks on the eshop (hurry because it closes down this month) or just homebrew it and get it for free.
o I'm retarded. I'll give the nintengarden gnomes my money...this time.
The best way to enjoy them is unironically emulating them on PC with PrimeHack. Using mouse to aim makes it impossible to go back to console controls
Zero Mission has the better Zero Suit.
Was it ever in a world where Samus Returns and Prime 3 exists?
Those games are good too, fuck you.
>Implying newer generations sub to Nintendo Online to play old games
They sub so they can play the online features of Mario Kart, Pokemon, and Smash Ultimate
Finished ZM some months ago, do I now play GB 2 or 3DS 2?
get ready for a huge letdown either way
Dread survival rush is very difficult, I can't beat more than 5 bosses.
Call me a gay but I honestly find the multi colored droid stealth sections borderline game ruining when the rest of everything is almost perfect.
Super gravity >>> gba gravity
Worst Metroid still belongs to Prime. If you are splitting the two, then Samus Returns and Dread tie for worst as Mercury Steam are horrible and should have been aborted after what they did to Castlevania. They clearly do bot understand the genre and need to drown in tequila or whatever Mexican devs do.
>Mercury Steam are horrible and should have been aborted after what they did to Castlevania. They clearly do bot understand the genre and need to drown in tequila or whatever Mexican devs do.
Incredibly fucking based
This, they shat all over Sakamoto, the creator and father of Metroid, pretending that they were even a fraction of the greatness of the man who created Other M.
Any webms of zoomers getting spooked yet?
It’s the second best 2D one at the very least
not even the worst gba metroid
It isn't even the worst. It was somewhat challenging in the actual challenge sense like dread and not in the exploration sense like super Metroid was. Zero mission is really polished and great but is very easy compared to either super or fusion.
Never was. It was the start of the series heavy railroading but it was never the worst metroid game in any compacity.
I played it 21 years ago and didn't know it was controversial. Shit taste knows no bounds.
>can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?
that was the general consensus after Other M came out
HUH?
Oh no, he's putting the worst part of Fusion in too
If you're gonna remake Fusion, you gotta include the story bits.
Though, looks like the author might be going full fanfiction.
Anyone speak baguette? What's the french in the second half of the first video
>swearing
keep that nonsense out of metroid, it doesn't belong in it, why do you think they took it out of trilogy
turn on cc in the vid
I think he ran out of space and got rid of all the story changes and dialogue.
Coward should've just expanded the ROM
Why would it be the worst when Other M exists? Other M is like an incredibly shitty 3D adaptation of Fusion.
>can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?
no
Of course it isn't, Dread just came out a year ago and they demade Prime a month ago..
Why would I hate on the best 2D Metroid game to date? doesn't make sense.
Nobody cares about metrois anon, let it go
>please stop talking about things that upset me where i can see them, argh
>says the metroidfag when metroidfags couldn't stop seething at hollow knight
When the HKfags invade Metroid threads, they have every reason and right to be upset. It's funny how HKfags can never make their own threads and need to hijack others.
How can any of them possibly be worse than the DS one?
better than super
Fusion is too linear to be a great metroid game
remind me again how defeating an X unlocks the hatches?
It doesn't in the actual game. Is that some kind of ROM or fangame?
metroid can absorb security
but not crawl
Quarantine?
the game uses a very strict event system to control how you progress through the game
if you break out of it, strange things happen, up to and including softlocking the game.
but there's a hack that fixes that and allows for full sequence breaking without the detrimental side effects. looks like
was using it.
Isn't this a failsafe in the game itself? If you break the sequence of events, it unlocks the doors to prevent a crash?
Would you?
Not unless the suit stays on.
The back half of fusion is okay but the first half's areas and bosses are lame except for the spritework
Nightmare can barely hit you and has the problem of being nothing but "dump missiles into the 5 pixel wide weapoint" that a lot of metroid bosses fall into
Who ever said it was the worst?
At most it's "Is it better or worse than ZM?"
i don't like how linear it is, most of the time you're going on a straight fucking line with barely any incentive to explore unless you sequence break, other than that it's ok. atmospherefags can go choke a dick, SM and Prime are as cartoony as you can be and both of those are peak metroid
Anyone who even vaguely mentions AM2R is a legit loser
>bro my favorite Metroid game?? It’s a rom hack lol!! A rom hack is when fans..
Nah shut the fuck up you enormous queer
That’s like saying “bro my favorite game in the smt series is smt6 is a fan game haha but it’s good”
Haha bro yeah man uhh I love uncharted my favorite game is the fan game uncharted 5
Bro my favorite Pokémon game? It has to be crystal blaster flaming purple (rom hack)
Just seriously fuck off
didn't ask
Mad because I’m right, retard?
100% sure you haven’t even gotten all the super Metroid endings you fucking queer
five points have been deposited into your my nintendo account
Imagine malding over the fact that someone's having fun playing an unofficial game.
AM2R isn't my favorite, but this sentiment also get's a laugh out of me.
Fangames can be better than official products. It's silly to think this couldn't happens since fangames inherently usually have far less work go into them as they are built upon an already established solid foundation to just add upon. The product being official doesn't automatically mean it's good.
This mindset also shows how you don't care for the gameplay, but only for the "brand". Metroid is all about the gameplay. There's is no benefit to care whether a certain is part of the "brand".
holy projection
Super is overrated as fuck. It’s a great game but gays here have a conniption when people don’t bend over backwards to call Super one of the greatest games of all time.
Tell me about it, popular shit is for trannies and gays, liking something the rest of the world likes doesn't make you special or cool.
I've never seen a thread on Ganker bashing fusion. This is news to me.
This is either a larp or you don’t actually enter most Metroid threads
you must be a complete newfag for years, no perhaps more than a decade if you truly feel this
Fusion's reputation got much better over the years due to Other M's existence.
Before Other M, Fusion was the Black Sheep of the Metroid series.
Other M isn't canon, even to itself.
Primes are fanfiction/AU with no impact on the main games. They're still quite good, mind you.
AM2R is the definitive version of Metroid II, miss me with that gay code farm shit.
>Primes are fanfiction/AU with no impact on the main games.
The term is "side story".
>Other M isn't canon
Other M had art in Dread along with the 2D Metroids. It's canon.
I've always loved Fusion, it's just a different take on Metroid. Some of the best and most exciting bosses in the 2D games, tense horror vibes, cool connection bonuses with Prime, sick suit redesign. Fine with it being more linear than Super because it's not Super and it's not supposed to be a vast exploration oriented Metroid. Honestly my biggest personal gripes with it are that the underwater sections are annoying and the final boss sucks.
Fusion was fucking great, only seething poors that could not afford a GBA talk shit. Most of you gays here were not even born when Fusion came out
>thirdie thinks GBA/AA batteries were expensive
what is this absolute nonsense? Why just blatantly make shit up? What do you gain?
Other M is a good game.
It's not. Even if you remove the Metroid branding it's mediocre and makes a lot of baffling design decisions and almost does nothing exceptionally well.
Fusion has two mandatory hidden morph ball paths and one spot with the morph bomb that raises the platform. Only one of these is properly telegraphed
It's still pretty bad.
Other M was always the worst. Then Federation Force. Then Pinball. Fusion was never terrible, just fundamentally flawed.
It's always been one of the best, in fact. Only retards ever considered otherwise.
SA-X still makes me shit my pants. Fuck this massive bitch I just want to get more missles.
Bro you literally only need to run from her once before killing her. Every single other "encounter" is purely optional if you're retarded and show yourself to her.
What's Samus' best suit? I say the Fusion suit is in the top three for me. Only dethroned by the Super suit and Dread's Metroid suit.
For me
>SR Varia suit
>Light suit
>Dread default suit
>Metroid suit
Default Dread suit is pretty based honestly. I hope they let you freely switch suits in the next game now that there's been a big Metroid push from Nintendo.
Blue Dread suit is the fucking best
Light Suit
Phazon Suit in Prime 1
Fusion provides a complete different experience from any other 2D Metroid and that different experience is not better or worse just different. The elements placed there such as ADAM telling you where to go, what to do is used by the game afterwards to disrupt the player nearly the end in favor of the story although that doesn't mean the gameplay of past games were neglected it is still Metroid at its core. It's the only 2D Metroid I legit felt terror and as many of you know Metroid was inspired by a horror movie, Alien, although Fusion is more like the "The Thing" than "Alien".
Great videogame, replayability suffers from favoring the story and I wish developers realized this and made hard mode/classic mode without the story focus just pure Super Metroid style after you beat it once or some other shenanigan.