Now that a new generation is being exposed to it as we speak can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?

Now that a new generation is being exposed to it as we speak can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wait, people say this when other m exists?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      People say this when it comes to the 2D games despite 1 and II existing. At the time of release it was literally just slightly worse than Super and that's it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I just hate how easy and samey most of the overworld is, and how hard (in a tedious, annoying way) some of the bosses are. Balance is all over the place. Also the nightmare boss that takes up the entire GBA screen is pure bullshit

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >I just hate how easy

          It's a Nintendo game.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            that's no excuse. Dread has somewhat difficult bosses that are fun to fight. BotW allows you to challenge yourself by letting you drop your gear or replace hearts with stamina, plus the Master Trials. Even Mario Odyssey has more challenging content, it's just optional.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Super is a true 10/10 game. have a nice day

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe if you're a speedrun troony.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        1 is incredibly janky but the world is well designed imo, I can't comment on vanilla 2 since I played with a color patch but it wasn't too bad either and the ending was cool

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that doesnt count, Nintendo pretends it doesnt exist (they explicitly called Dread Metroid 5)

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Anon...
        >Metroid (1)
        >Metroid 2 (2)
        >Super (3)
        >Fusion (4)
        >Dread (5)

        You are why the internet is worse now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Other M is 3.5 and obviously wouldn't be Metroid 5. They reference it in Dread with rewards as well, so clearly Nintendo doesn't pretend it doesn't exist.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >an image
          WOOOOOW, Such reference!
          This meme needs to end.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe you just need to stop coping, lol
            Another M is cannon, take a deep breath and take it in

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The "mainline" Metroid series is just the 2D games. The 3D games are still canon they're just treated as spin-offs.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >The 3D games are still canon they're just treated as spin-offs.
          not true, the recent survey has both the 2D games and the prime games are the main games, other M is explicitly not included tho

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          just because something isn't numbered doesn't mean it isn't mainline. prime series and other M is mainline. prime pinball and federation force are spinoffs

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        when was other M ever implied to be metroid 5? did anyone call it that around release? both super metroid and fusion were called 3 and 4 in the games themselves

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No, it wasn't. It takes place between Super and Fusion, even, so it can't be Metroid 5.
          It's a side story, just like the Prime games.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          never, he's shitposting to drum up a narrative

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Fusion is quite literally just 2D Other M.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >the game that came first is this game that came later!

        Son...

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Absolutely everything wrong with Other M was done in Fusion first.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The correct phrase is "Other M is Fusion but in 3D", because it came after Fusion.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Ah yes I too remember the pixel hunting in Fusion

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              yeah it was pretty bad

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >can't climb the ledges
                >"hmmm I wonder what I should do?"

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Get sealed in a tiny space with limited options
                >Still can't figure it out

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >>Get sealed in a tiny space with limited options
                You mean like the pixel hunts in Other M?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                (1/2)

                Not that anon but this is Metroid Fusion's very own "Noob" moment, though not the only one. It filters a lot of new players and it's the very first roadblock. It occurs after you get the Morph Ball Bombs in Sector 2 (TRO).

                You enter this room, and once you drop down the ledge and kill some enemies you realize that you've become locked and can't leave, as none of your jumps reach high enough to grab the ledge. The solution is that you have to place a bomb on one of the segment of the floor, which will raise a platform that will allow you to jump over a progress. This room attempts to tutorialize the player the usefulness in bombing EVERYTHING, which is a staple of 2D Metroid.

                Why this filters people:
                >First time Metroid players never know to bomb everything, this is something you begin to realize much later as you famliarize yourself with Metroid, but this room is fairly early in the game AND you just got the morph ball bomb not even 5 minutes ago, so most aren't familiarized enough yet to learn this in that short time frame
                >Prior to entering the room the places to use the bombs were obvious, so they've been trained to look for more obvious markers to bomb. This room in contrast has no obvious markers whatsoever
                >bombing random segments in Super that raised platforms were pretty rare and from what I recall never mandatory to progress (I could be wrong, been a while). So it's very possible that even if you played Super before you'd not think this this is the solution, especially so early in the game
                >If those segments in Super were mandatory (again been a while), bombing places that raised platforms often took place in very obvious spots where you know you want to be in Morph Ball mode. This room however was not one of those rooms, in fact the first thing you do in this room is combat to shoot some small enemies

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                (2/2)

                >So far most have been taught to bomb corners or up against walls. However, where the platform rises is actually NOT right next to any wall, it's actually one block over. So if you do have the bright idea to bomb the corner, nothing will happen, and you may be left confused. You have to continuously bomb one step over to be rewarded

                It's not as bad as other more obtuse ways Fusion wants you to progress (ironic thing about Fusion despite to it's handholding linear ways) but even though you're locked in and just got the morph bomb I don't think it's particularly good design, even if I understand why they did it. Super in general felt like it taught the player things in a much more natural way. This room occurs far too early and prior you were taught the wrong lessons that will actually hinder the average newcomer.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The only bad thing about this part was how finnicky the hitbox for the platform was. Otherwise it's pretty self explanatory what to do if you have any basic knowledge about metroid games

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Literally just get power up you're explicitly told is for if you get trapped.
                >Using it every where possible would take about 15 seconds
                >MUH BAD GAME DESIGN
                I figured that shit out instantly when I was 9.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nah dude. Other M was moronic anime fanfiction the completely fricked Samus' and Adam's characters up. Fusion was fine story and character-wise.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Boomer garbage that should've stayed forgotten like the rest of this gay series

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Or course not, Other M is the bottom of the barrel.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's a little harsh considering that 1, 2, and Other M exist. 4 is painfully railroaded though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      2 is perfectly fine. It doesn't have the confusing map of 1, it introduced a bunch of extra mechanics, and while linear at least doesn't interrupt you every few minutes

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        2 plays like ass. that's not acceptable

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >1
        >Confusing map

        Once it's understood that Metroid 1 is just a set of vertical shafts it gets easier to navigate.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It always was in my top 3 out of the 2D ones.

    My current top 3 being Dread, Fusion and Zero Mission

    Super Metroid is overrated shit that controls like stiff ASS today, it didn't age well compared to the GBA ones.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Super Metroid is overrated shit that controls like stiff ASS today
      Never understood this honestly. I can go between Fusion or AM2R or Super or Zero Mission without even blinking.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Zero Mission is more overrated than Super is

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        This

        What the frick are you morons even talking about? The only time people bring up ZM is to shit on the 10 minute post-game stealth segment or to b***h about it being too handholding for the map waypoint or the comic book artstyle “ruining” the atmosphere of the first game. Meanwhile morons, especially on this board, claim Fusion is even better than Super all the time despite doing everything ZM did wrong 50 times worse. But SA-X being soooooper spoopy is such a meme at this point I guess it gets a pass for everything.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Whenever I see people bring up Zero Mission in recent years it's to say that it's better than Super almost entirely because it controls better (which I don't even agree with, I first played Super after playing Zero Mission and had no problems), despite it feeling like a watered down Super in most other respects.
          >Meanwhile morons, especially on this board, claim Fusion is even better than Super all the time despite doing everything ZM did wrong 50 times worse
          Unlike Zero Mission, Fusion wasn't trying to follow the usual Metroid formula and made no attempt to obfuscate that fact. It's a fully linear experience from start to finish and is designed around that fact, which is why it succeeds.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            You literally just proved him right, moron. Holy fricking doublethink

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >You literally just proved him right, moron
              How? By disagreeing with him?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                For sucking off fusion for being a shitty deviation of the established formula like it’s some kind of accomplishment, because you know, metroid fans aren’t interested in playing a metroid game apparently. You’re like those homosexuals that thought the last jedi was amazing because it “subverted your expectations”

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Last Jedi was amazing because of its mise en scene and artistry, dumbass

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You’re like those homosexuals that thought the last jedi was amazing because it “subverted your expectations”
                You moron, Other M is the TLJ of Metroid, not Fusion

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                OM is actually Empire, but you're just too stupid to recognize it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Other M is The Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones of Metroid, you braindead moron

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The boss fights are fricking easy and pose absolutely no challenge, which in tur makes collection and 100% completion moot since you just shit on the game's difficulty.
          I dislike zero mission alot, and I praise Samus Returns because the end game of that game is tuned to you having alot of power ups as well.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I praise Samus Returns
            Opinion discarded

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Zero Mission is infinitely worse than Fusion.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You don't get to call Zero Mission overrated unless you've 100%ed it in <2 hours. Otherwise, you were just filtered.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >why does a SPACE game feel FLOATY

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        But anon, your on a planet not in space

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Samus has a JETPACK you idiot ! that's why there is no fall damage and why she jumps so high. ...I think.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Samus
            >using her jetpack

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Is way smoother than that low gravity shit heap that was the zero mission and fusion fuvk off. Super was and always will be amazing. Cope seethe and dilate

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Super Metroid is overrated shit that controls like stiff ASS today, it didn't age well compared to the GBA ones.
      This, the only way it's remotely playable these days is with the redux hack and gba gravity.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        moron

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Super still has some of the most crisp controls out of any game. Playing it is immensely satisfying because of how precise it is.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        nothing feels better than Metroid at times

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Super Metroid is overrated shit
      Zoomers need to leave

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's one of the best 2D Metroids along with Super and Dread.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It never was. It's better than Metroid 1, Metroid 2, Other M, Federation Force, Prime Hunters and Samus Returns. When people say the worst they usually mean 'worst of the best', as in the Prime Trilogy, Super, Zero Mission, Dread set of games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I forgot to put Metroid Prime Pinball in the best category

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's the only Metroid I actively hate
    Other M doesn't exist in my reality, shut up

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I have never heard anyone say that.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was always good. It only started getting hate after Other M because that game is heavily tied to it and exacerbates Fusion’s biggest problems.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I can separate Fusion from Other M because I'm not an autist.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SA-XOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I always read it as Sax instead of SA-X and I've never been able to kick that habit it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I always read it as Sax instead of SA-X and I've never been able to kick that habit it

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Don't lewd SA-X you weirdo.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >t. relatively new Metroidgay whose only beaten Prime 1, Super, Dread and Samus Returns
    Game's fun despite the linearity, but it desperately needs a skip dialogue option like Dread does. Also, I feel like I'm drowning in freebie expansions and it's only sector 2.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      dread doesn't let you skip dialogue
      what are you talking about
      you still get locked in rooms and have to mash through text constantly

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >5 seconds of mashing A in Dread
        >Fusion pauses after every dialogue box
        One's leagues ahead over the other.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Super > Fusion > Zero Mission > Dread > Samus Returns > Metroid OG NES

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no metroid 2

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Super > Zero Mission > Prime > AM2R > Metroid > Metroid 2 > Fusion > Prime 3 > Prime 2

      haven't played federation force / other m or dread

      pinball and hunters were both great but i don't know where to put them really

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        how the fug have you not played Dread yet? It's the best 2Dtroid yet.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I don't like this gay ass fricked up idea of including AM2R in anything. What are you fricks, zoomers?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Super > Zero Mission > Prime > AM2R > Metroid > Metroid 2 > Fusion > Prime 3 > Prime 2

        This has to be the most moronic list I have ever seen in my life. The fact that Prime 2 (while not as good as prime 1) is listed last and AFTER prime 3 is laughable.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          prime 3 was mechanically good, it had a great control scheme and some good setpieces. Prime 2 introduced npcs and unskippable dialogue to the prime series and for that reason it is the worst of the primes. Fusion is the worst of the 2d metroids for similar reasons.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >prime 3 was mechanically good
            Not really, the really messed up the implementation of the Phazon Beam
            >Use it and everything dies
            >The fact you lose health doesn't matter cause enemies drop health all the time
            >If you don't use it enemies are beam sponges

            All they had to do was reduce the amount of healing spawns, but they can't do that cause Metroid Prime can't be difficult since the console is mainly aimed at kids
            Its like everytime the devs get a cool idea, they get cucked by Nintendo's demographic of choice

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              It can be hard, that's one of the complaints people have for Echoes.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Metroid prime 1 and 2 were legit hard on gamecube. The difficulty was changed with the wii version and the remaster to be much easier. The default normal mode on wii and the remaster was "easy" on the gamecube. The unlockable "hard" mode for the wii and remaster was the default "normal" mode on the gamecube. The prime games used to be really tough and rewarding but now they're pretty easy and it's a shame most people don't experience them like they're meant to be

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Metroid prime 1
                NTA but no, even on gamecube it's piss easy. I was very surprised during my first time how Easy prime was, i figured Prime 3's easiness was just a fluke, but turns out Prime 2's difficulty was the real fluke.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >prime hard
                Impossible I was shit at games as a kid and beat it. Even with Echoes's ammunition system.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >The unlockable "hard" mode for the wii and remaster was the default "normal" mode on the gamecube
                No anon, the unlocked "hypermode" difficulty is the gamecube "hard". Wii's "veteran" difficulty is gamecube normal, and is available from the start. Remasterd's "normal" and "hard" are the same as the gamecube version.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Out of the games people actually care about it's probably my least favorite. Still a great game though.

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Second worst next to other M (fusion 2)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Technically Other M is Fusion 0

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It never was. Even at the time it was way better than 1 and 2, and honestly, it has some good enhancements over Super, it's just not QUITE as good of a game.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    As a straight action game experience, Fusion might be better than Super. The controls feel better, and the boss fights are really grand and exciting. Lots of fun stuff going on there, like hanging off ladders while blasting enemies.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ever notice how whenever there is a list of Bad Metroid games, nobody ever brings up THIS

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's not a bad game?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      that game is amazing, frick you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have absolutely no idea what constitutes a good or bad pinball game

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Pinball is all about the feel of slamming those balls or how they bounce off surfaces.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because it’s a Metroid themed pinball game, not a Metroid game. Only pinball enthusiasts are interested in and capable or articulating as to whether or not it qualifies as a good pinball game or not

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's Pinball

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I liked it, the only reason you believe its bad is because some youtubers have been pushing a "this game is.. LE BAD!" narrative just to farm views.
      And YOU fell for it like the idiot that you are.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it was always the best until Dread dethroned it

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was an amazing game. If only we got a pixel remaster of it.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    who the hell said that Fusion was bad? that game freaked me the frick out when I was a kid

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      contrarians

      Fusion was always highly rated

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Prime>Corruption>Hunters=Echoes

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the romhack that adds bombjumping and walljumping on the same wall is pretty fun, I'd recommend giving it a try

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm starting to think I'm fighting a boss way before I should be
    I just keep getting my ass kicked

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >no varia suit
      >no wide beam
      what the frick
      how

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And I'm sure your kid ass was underequipped from sequence breaking like his boomer relexes were too. It's no wonder he's getting his ass kicked. Assuming they're even getting kicked at all since he's obviously lying in SOME capacity.

        https://www.inverteddungeon.com/index.php?section=metroid&page=rando_mfor_metroid_fusion_open_randomizer

        this is how its possible to do that. Try it its really fricking fun. The game world is ridiculously well balanced for this kind of hack.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Nah I'm just playing Special Edition
          https://metroidconstruction.com/hack.php?id=659

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Seems fine

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Get good, if kid me could beat this boss on his first try your boomer reflexes can too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And I'm sure your kid ass was underequipped from sequence breaking like his boomer relexes were too. It's no wonder he's getting his ass kicked. Assuming they're even getting kicked at all since he's obviously lying in SOME capacity.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      How hard does he hit without the Varia Suit?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'll make notes during the next fight.

        >Single wall jumping
        No wonder you missed half the items

        Yes, that was the joke.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I'll make notes during the next fight.

        [...]
        Yes, that was the joke.

        Contact with the flames hits for roughly 40
        Contact with the first form hits for roughly 60
        Getting caught and purposefully not escaping will deal roughly 300 total
        Contact with the second form hits for roughly 30
        Contact with the bugs it spits out hits for roughly 40
        Contact with the Core X hits for roughly 40

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          anon god damnit the core xs are supposed to be easy how did you frick that up

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Can you really say you truly played Fusion if you've never beaten a boss only to choke on the Core X?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You're fighting him wrong, you're supposed to stay in place, aim up, and shoot Missiles. This is 99% of the reason people think this fight is hard, they don't do this

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That requires tanking hits and that Anon is deliberately fighting it early meaning his damage output and defenses are lower. He'd never survive.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Watching someone fight Nightmare for like 2 hours because at first try kept trying to shoot it's gravity manipulator with missiles and then once it's face was exposed kept trying to shoot it with charge shots

            How do these people function?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Just morph ball in the bottom left corner, moron. He literally can’t hit you there

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >He literally can't hit you there
            Literally not true. If it starts flying at certain angles it will hit you and there's nothing stopping it from dropping a bug overhead.
            Plus anon is deliberately underequipped and likely doesn't even have enough missiles to finish the fight, meaning he'd have to get up in order to start charging.
            moron.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Why is the giant spider monster called Yakuza?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        he spits fire like a dragon

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I remember I accidentally did this with Bloodless in Bloodstained

      >first time playing
      >exploring after getting the double jump
      >go up the candles to her part of the castle
      >die a couple times and then cheese her with items
      >fight the final boss way early
      >get bad ending

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Most Kino Metroid
    You can always tell what games have the best atmosphere by how it inspires fans to attempt to recreate it
    And yes, that means Metroid II (A2MR) and Fusion (X Fusion).

    Best games in the entire franchise, Nintendo started going kid friendly in the 2000s and that gutted the space horror theme of early Super Metroid, which has turned Metroid into this half assed attempt at copying Halo's Sucess but without retaining its original SOUL

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Only Fusion and Dread really go that hard at being straight horror games, so I don't see how you figure.
      Prime 1 is pretty much just Super Metroid in 3D, and 2 and 3 are weirdo experimental takes on the formula.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Metroid II is also a horror game, but the remake didn't capture that well
        AM2R did tho

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          God what an awful boss
          >spit
          >headbutt headbutt headbutt
          >spit
          >headbutt headbutt headbutt
          >repeat for THE ENTIRE BOSS FIGHT

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The Metroid fights are easily AM2R's weakest aspect and I think people overlook it too much considering what a major part of the game it is. Zetas and Omegas in particular suck balls.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            As opposed to?
            AM2R Metroid Queen is the best fight of any 2D metroid lol

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >AM2R Metroid Queen is the best fight of any 2D metroid lol

              Diggernaut would like a word with you.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                As opposed to?
                AM2R Metroid Queen is the best fight of any 2D metroid lol

                >Not Proteus Ridley

                He's the best 2D boss even though it ruins the ending of 2.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's too bad that none of the excellent Super Metroid hacks are included. Some of them are on-par with AM2R.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                All they had to do was have SR end normally, but then transition into an epilogue where you play through the intro to Super except with a proper Ridley fight at the end

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >All they had to do was have SR end normally, but then transition into an epilogue where you play through the intro to Super except with a proper Ridley fight at the end

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                That would've had people expecting a Super Metroid remake.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >All they had to do was have SR end normally, but then transition into an epilogue where you play through the intro to Super except with a proper Ridley fight at the end
                Possibly the best idea for dealing with SR
                Shame Nintendo never thought of it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How did it ruin II's ending?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Breaks the whole ending of Metroid II peaceful and reflective walk back to the ship with the baby Metroid after a long adventure
                >Implies Ridley died and became a X parasite despite X not being thing in Super

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Implies Ridley died and became a X parasite despite X not being thing in Super
                What? The Hornoad was infected by an X-parasite, you twit, Ridley took off after Samus soon after she left.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Ridley didn't die you node. He shed his robotic stuff and farted off to deep space. If anything it ruins the intro to Super because the whole point of that (I think) is that Samus thought she'd routed the main pirate threat in Metroid (Or more specifically Prime 3 of you consider Roidley the main threat) for two games before Zero Mission retconned it.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Been a while since you played Super, hasn't it? Samus only mentions that she first faced the Metroids on Zebes where she fought Mother Brain, then again on SR388 where she eradicated them except for the larva which she took to Ceres Station where the scientists proclaimed the MEtroids could be used to benefit galactic civilization so Samus was pleased and left to seek a new bounty to hunt only to pick up a distress call from Ceres and doubles back to investigate.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That's why I'm excited for the boss overhaul in 1.5.6.

            >being able to summon metroids mid-battle

            That's gonna be crazy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Which has turned Metroid into this half assed attempt at copying Halo's Sucess
      Only Prime 3 and Prime 2 multiplayer apply, anything else would be stupid.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >You can always tell what games have the best atmosphere by how it inspires fans to attempt to recreate it
      >completely alien and hostile planet with remnants of an alien civilization rarely seen in media
      vs
      >generic cartoony space station full of pipes and wires with artificial generic biomes seen a million times before
      Wow, what amazing atmosphere, you cancerous homosexual

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >X Fusion
      this shit is wiped off google. rundown?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        https://metaquarium.wordpress.com/category/x-fusion/
        If you've heard of Metroid Super Zero Mission, it's like that. If you haven't, then know that it's an attempt to port Metroid Fusion into Super's engine, but with liberal modifications to the author's taste. He's recently nuked just about every trace of it off the internet aside from his blog, out of fear of Nintendo coming after him, and is taking a "when it's done" approach with sporadic updates. Which is reasonable considering Nintendo's recently started giving Metroid attention again.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          cool thank you

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Like I said earlier, Fusion, Metroid II, and Dread are the best in the franchise in terms of atmosphere

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Well that's an interesting behaviour.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Single wall jumping
      No wonder you missed half the items

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I remember finding the game to be very frustrating as a kid but always very fun
    I was also genuinely afraid when it does the mask close up

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fusion is great, but replaying it is a pain in the ass
    Desperately needs dialogue to move faster

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I could never beat Nightmare as a kid.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    ME HATE THE POPULAR THING!!!!!!!!!!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Metroid ins't even popular tho

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It was a fun experience but I would not play it again.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It would be 10/10 if the Adam briefings were optional.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Never said it’s the worst, it’s my favorite next to super. Worst is Samus Returns followed by dread. But I don’t really consider those Metroid, more like fangames

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It never was.
    Fusion is linear, yes, but it has a few memorable moments.
    >Seeing Sa-X for the first time
    >The whole powerless station part of the game
    >Finding the secret lab
    >Nightmare
    The game was always good, it just tries to do things differently.
    Is it better than Super?
    Absolutely not, but it is still an amazing game.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Super is literally one of the greatest games ever made, a perfect 10/10, and moronic zoomers are shitting up this thread saying it’s crap, what is this the twilight zone

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If Super Metroid is so good, why ins't there a Super Metroid 2?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 33 and I honestly don't understand how most people don't think that Super is even slightly overrated. It literally has to be that the people who say it's the best ever are still under the glamour of playing it at release.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The grime reality of people is that a vast majority of them have their opinions formulated by the dominating popular sentiment at the time and genuinely treat it as gospel above reproach because they are incapable of conceiving ideas of their own since most humans are in fact mindless herd animals. Ganker is proof of this since even though nobody has any reputation or fear of repercussions due to anonymity, anons still coalesce around the most community approved opinions and you get homosexuals like

        ME HATE THE POPULAR THING!!!!!!!!!!!

        that lash out and call you a contrarian while in the same breath shitting on CoD

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The main counterargument was "too linear" which is dumb. The Prime games are just as linear in practical terms, there's virtually zero flexibility in what order you make progress the vast majority of the time, they just allow you to backtrack at will.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      linearity is good. the worst part of all metroid games is wondering around lost wondering where to go

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >he Prime games are just as linear in practical terms, there's virtually zero flexibility in what order you make progress the vast majority of the time, they just allow you to backtrack at will.
      This is not what people mean dumbass. There is an obvious "order" to how these games progress. The non-linearity is always a bit of an illusion.

      The issue is that Fusion has less branching pathways even in casual playthrough. Fusion has doors and gates locked behind you up the ass to prevent you from even exploring where they don't want you to until at least half way through the game (Super does this very few times, Fusion does it too much). You are constantly railroaded in unsubtle ways where to go, you have constant dialogue telling you way to go, you have having NAV POINTS telling you directly where to go.

      Metroid games are about being in a labyrinth per official sources. All these design choices are anti-thetical to that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        And that's fine, there's not really anything to explore in the Metroid Prime series outside the chozo scripts you find along the way anyway, or the expansions for missiles
        Its not like you can decide to walk out somewhere you are not meant to go anyway

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      And that's fine, there's not really anything to explore in the Metroid Prime series outside the chozo scripts you find along the way anyway, or the expansions for missiles
      Its not like you can decide to walk out somewhere you are not meant to go anyway

      I never understood the appeal of the Prime games. They lack the physics based exploration of SM, are basically linear with backtracking, and barely even offer a challenge. Even in terms of atmosphere they are highly overrated.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, the appeal seems to come from the game being an introduction to many kids into vidya, based on popular culture themes like Alien more than anything else

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          I never understood the appeal of the Prime games. They lack the physics based exploration of SM, are basically linear with backtracking, and barely even offer a challenge. Even in terms of atmosphere they are highly overrated.

          And that's fine, there's not really anything to explore in the Metroid Prime series outside the chozo scripts you find along the way anyway, or the expansions for missiles
          Its not like you can decide to walk out somewhere you are not meant to go anyway

          >he Prime games are just as linear in practical terms, there's virtually zero flexibility in what order you make progress the vast majority of the time, they just allow you to backtrack at will.
          This is not what people mean dumbass. There is an obvious "order" to how these games progress. The non-linearity is always a bit of an illusion.

          The issue is that Fusion has less branching pathways even in casual playthrough. Fusion has doors and gates locked behind you up the ass to prevent you from even exploring where they don't want you to until at least half way through the game (Super does this very few times, Fusion does it too much). You are constantly railroaded in unsubtle ways where to go, you have constant dialogue telling you way to go, you have having NAV POINTS telling you directly where to go.

          Metroid games are about being in a labyrinth per official sources. All these design choices are anti-thetical to that.

          Why do people keep claiming the Prime games are completely inflexible and linear when people have been sequence-breaking and speed-running them as much as they do with the 2D games for the last twenty years?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            because they're moronic or have a stick up their asses about prime overtaking the series. The phrase "sequence break" was coined by the metroid prime speedrun community

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >physics based exploration of SM
        huh

        >are basically linear with backtracking
        prime 1 has the same exact progression as super, interconnected focus at the start with a segmented off crashed ship and segmented off major area (phazon mines/miridia) at the end

        >barely even offer a challenge
        SM is easier than prime, prime 2 is the most challenging game in the series

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Player agency. Why do people complain about Other M's ability activation bullshit when it's functionally the same as running into a powerup when the game wants you to? Metroid is all about being linear while making the player think they're finding out where to go on their own. When you have a computer telling you exactly where to go the illusion is broken.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    best way to enjoy prime 2, and 3? Never played them.
    yes I own a wiiu, so I guess homebrew is an option?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah you can get Prime Trilogy for like 20 bucks on the eshop (hurry because it closes down this month) or just homebrew it and get it for free.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        o I'm moronic. I'll give the nintenjews my money...this time.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The best way to enjoy them is unironically emulating them on PC with PrimeHack. Using mouse to aim makes it impossible to go back to console controls

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Zero Mission has the better Zero Suit.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Was it ever in a world where Samus Returns and Prime 3 exists?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Those games are good too, frick you.

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Implying newer generations sub to Nintendo Online to play old games

    They sub so they can play the online features of Mario Kart, Pokemon, and Smash Ultimate

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Finished ZM some months ago, do I now play GB 2 or 3DS 2?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      get ready for a huge letdown either way

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dread survival rush is very difficult, I can't beat more than 5 bosses.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Call me a homosexual but I honestly find the multi colored droid stealth sections borderline game ruining when the rest of everything is almost perfect.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Super gravity >>> gba gravity

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Worst Metroid still belongs to Prime. If you are splitting the two, then Samus Returns and Dread tie for worst as Mercury Steam are horrible and should have been aborted after what they did to Castlevania. They clearly do bot understand the genre and need to drown in tequila or whatever Mexican devs do.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Mercury Steam are horrible and should have been aborted after what they did to Castlevania. They clearly do bot understand the genre and need to drown in tequila or whatever Mexican devs do.
      Incredibly fricking based

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Mercury Steam are horrible and should have been aborted after what they did to Castlevania. They clearly do bot understand the genre and need to drown in tequila or whatever Mexican devs do.
      Incredibly fricking based

      This, they shat all over Sakamoto, the creator and father of Metroid, pretending that they were even a fraction of the greatness of the man who created Other M.

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Any webms of zoomers getting spooked yet?

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It’s the second best 2D one at the very least

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    not even the worst gba metroid

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't even the worst. It was somewhat challenging in the actual challenge sense like dread and not in the exploration sense like super Metroid was. Zero mission is really polished and great but is very easy compared to either super or fusion.

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Never was. It was the start of the series heavy railroading but it was never the worst metroid game in any compacity.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I played it 21 years ago and didn't know it was controversial. Shit taste knows no bounds.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?

    that was the general consensus after Other M came out

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    HUH?

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no, he's putting the worst part of Fusion in too

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you're gonna remake Fusion, you gotta include the story bits.
        Though, looks like the author might be going full fanfiction.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone speak baguette? What's the french in the second half of the first video

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >swearing
      keep that nonsense out of metroid, it doesn't belong in it, why do you think they took it out of trilogy

      Anyone speak baguette? What's the french in the second half of the first video

      turn on cc in the vid

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Oh no, he's putting the worst part of Fusion in too

      I think he ran out of space and got rid of all the story changes and dialogue.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Coward should've just expanded the ROM

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why would it be the worst when Other M exists? Other M is like an incredibly shitty 3D adaptation of Fusion.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >can we finally agree that it's nowhere near the worst metroid game?
    no

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Of course it isn't, Dread just came out a year ago and they demade Prime a month ago..

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why would I hate on the best 2D Metroid game to date? doesn't make sense.

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares about metrois anon, let it go

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >please stop talking about things that upset me where i can see them, argh

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >says the metroidgay when metroidgays couldn't stop seething at hollow knight

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          When the HKgays invade Metroid threads, they have every reason and right to be upset. It's funny how HKgays can never make their own threads and need to hijack others.

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How can any of them possibly be worse than the DS one?

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    better than super

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fusion is too linear to be a great metroid game

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    remind me again how defeating an X unlocks the hatches?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't in the actual game. Is that some kind of ROM or fangame?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      metroid can absorb security

      but not crawl

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Quarantine?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the game uses a very strict event system to control how you progress through the game
      if you break out of it, strange things happen, up to and including softlocking the game.
      but there's a hack that fixes that and allows for full sequence breaking without the detrimental side effects. looks like

      [...]
      Contact with the flames hits for roughly 40
      Contact with the first form hits for roughly 60
      Getting caught and purposefully not escaping will deal roughly 300 total
      Contact with the second form hits for roughly 30
      Contact with the bugs it spits out hits for roughly 40
      Contact with the Core X hits for roughly 40

      was using it.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't this a failsafe in the game itself? If you break the sequence of events, it unlocks the doors to prevent a crash?

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Would you?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Not unless the suit stays on.

  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The back half of fusion is okay but the first half's areas and bosses are lame except for the spritework
    Nightmare can barely hit you and has the problem of being nothing but "dump missiles into the 5 pixel wide weapoint" that a lot of metroid bosses fall into

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Who ever said it was the worst?
    At most it's "Is it better or worse than ZM?"

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    i don't like how linear it is, most of the time you're going on a straight fricking line with barely any incentive to explore unless you sequence break, other than that it's ok. atmospheregays can go choke a dick, SM and Prime are as cartoony as you can be and both of those are peak metroid

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who even vaguely mentions AM2R is a legit loser
    >bro my favorite Metroid game?? It’s a rom hack lol!! A rom hack is when fans..
    Nah shut the frick up you enormous queer
    That’s like saying “bro my favorite game in the smt series is smt6 is a fan game haha but it’s good”
    Haha bro yeah man uhh I love uncharted my favorite game is the fan game uncharted 5
    Bro my favorite Pokémon game? It has to be crystal blaster flaming purple (rom hack)
    Just seriously frick off

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      didn't ask

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Mad because I’m right, moron?
        100% sure you haven’t even gotten all the super Metroid endings you fricking queer

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      five points have been deposited into your my nintendo account

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine malding over the fact that someone's having fun playing an unofficial game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      AM2R isn't my favorite, but this sentiment also get's a laugh out of me.

      Fangames can be better than official products. It's silly to think this couldn't happens since fangames inherently usually have far less work go into them as they are built upon an already established solid foundation to just add upon. The product being official doesn't automatically mean it's good.

      This mindset also shows how you don't care for the gameplay, but only for the "brand". Metroid is all about the gameplay. There's is no benefit to care whether a certain is part of the "brand".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    holy projection

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Super is overrated as frick. It’s a great game but homosexuals here have a conniption when people don’t bend over backwards to call Super one of the greatest games of all time.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Tell me about it, popular shit is for trannies and homosexuals, liking something the rest of the world likes doesn't make you special or cool.

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've never seen a thread on Ganker bashing fusion. This is news to me.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is either a larp or you don’t actually enter most Metroid threads

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      you must be a complete newbie for years, no perhaps more than a decade if you truly feel this

      Fusion's reputation got much better over the years due to Other M's existence.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Before Other M, Fusion was the Black Sheep of the Metroid series.

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Other M isn't canon, even to itself.
    Primes are fanfiction/AU with no impact on the main games. They're still quite good, mind you.
    AM2R is the definitive version of Metroid II, miss me with that gay code farm shit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Primes are fanfiction/AU with no impact on the main games.
      The term is "side story".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Other M isn't canon
      Other M had art in Dread along with the 2D Metroids. It's canon.

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I've always loved Fusion, it's just a different take on Metroid. Some of the best and most exciting bosses in the 2D games, tense horror vibes, cool connection bonuses with Prime, sick suit redesign. Fine with it being more linear than Super because it's not Super and it's not supposed to be a vast exploration oriented Metroid. Honestly my biggest personal gripes with it are that the underwater sections are annoying and the final boss sucks.

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fusion was fricking great, only seething poors that could not afford a GBA talk shit. Most of you homosexuals here were not even born when Fusion came out

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >thirdie thinks GBA/AA batteries were expensive

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      what is this absolute nonsense? Why just blatantly make shit up? What do you gain?

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Other M is a good game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It's not. Even if you remove the Metroid branding it's mediocre and makes a lot of baffling design decisions and almost does nothing exceptionally well.

      Ah yes I too remember the pixel hunting in Fusion

      Fusion has two mandatory hidden morph ball paths and one spot with the morph bomb that raises the platform. Only one of these is properly telegraphed

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's still pretty bad.

  79. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Other M was always the worst. Then Federation Force. Then Pinball. Fusion was never terrible, just fundamentally flawed.

  80. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's always been one of the best, in fact. Only morons ever considered otherwise.

  81. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SA-X still makes me shit my pants. Frick this massive b***h I just want to get more missles.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Bro you literally only need to run from her once before killing her. Every single other "encounter" is purely optional if you're moronic and show yourself to her.

  82. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What's Samus' best suit? I say the Fusion suit is in the top three for me. Only dethroned by the Super suit and Dread's Metroid suit.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      For me
      >SR Varia suit
      >Light suit
      >Dread default suit
      >Metroid suit

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Default Dread suit is pretty based honestly. I hope they let you freely switch suits in the next game now that there's been a big Metroid push from Nintendo.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Blue Dread suit is the fricking best

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Light Suit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Phazon Suit in Prime 1

  83. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fusion provides a complete different experience from any other 2D Metroid and that different experience is not better or worse just different. The elements placed there such as ADAM telling you where to go, what to do is used by the game afterwards to disrupt the player nearly the end in favor of the story although that doesn't mean the gameplay of past games were neglected it is still Metroid at its core. It's the only 2D Metroid I legit felt terror and as many of you know Metroid was inspired by a horror movie, Alien, although Fusion is more like the "The Thing" than "Alien".

    Great videogame, replayability suffers from favoring the story and I wish developers realized this and made hard mode/classic mode without the story focus just pure Super Metroid style after you beat it once or some other shenanigan.

  84. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  85. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

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