Now that Stadia is dead, what's stopping Valve from launching their own cloud gaming service?

Now that Stadia is dead, what's stopping Valve from launching their own cloud gaming service?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > what's stopping
    Good business sense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not being severely retarded

      Having an IQ above 5

      They already use streaming, where it makes sense. From your own hardware to your own devices or your friends' for co-op.

      These. Remember Gaben is an engineer, not a suit. An incredibly fucking lazy one, but an engineer. Why would he try to make something that doesn't work?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Having an IQ above 5

        Not being severely retarded

        > what's stopping
        Good business sense.

        Stupid fanboys will always be stupid fanboys.
        He will never enter streaming properly because he does not want to pay for the server cost when his servers can barely handle keeping Steam up for 7 days a week.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >An incredibly fucking lazy one, but an engineer
        You don't need to be redundant with it you know

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not being severely retarded

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Having an IQ above 5

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They already use streaming, where it makes sense. From your own hardware to your own devices or your friends' for co-op.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact Nvidia beat them to it. Valve don't operate in saturated markets that they can't dominate.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need a great infrastructure for that. Google unironically was the only one right now with a grid good enough to make that work, but unfortunately they lacked in knowledge of this market and it's public, and made a format that was simply not appealing

    Steam works as a company because as Gaben said himself, they get too much money considering how little is their workforce. They don't have the hardware for that, and even trying to invest on it have the potential to make them go bankrupt

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They don't have the hardware for that, and even trying to invest on it have the potential to make them go bankrupt
      Valve pays way more for Steam upkeep than Google ever did for Stadia and it's not even close.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    not being totally retarded
    that pretty rare in the gaming industries

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks, doktor

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey thanks doc

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that most people don't have a very fast internet speed that allows them to play games without much latency?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny because I tried to play Fallen Order on xCloud, and it sucks most of the time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      streaming is decent for vns and turnbased games.
      i just use it to play srw and do side bullshit in chudmmo

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The idea is kind of stupid.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They already do have a streaming thing for faking local co op. Atleast I assume that it involves streaming I've never used it
    They don't go into streaming for anything else because it's fucking retarded.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because coud gaming is an inherently flawed technology that can never bet fixed. Input lag cannot be fixed.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it can be but internet infrastructure has too many variables. the technology is there but the internet isn't.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it can be

        No, it can't. It doesnt matter how good your internet connection is. There is nothing that can be done to fix the fact that the signal needs to travel from your computer, then to an internet device, then to a data centre somewhere that may be hundreds or thousands of kilometres away. This will ALWAYS have more input delay that playing on a local machine. Cloud gaming will always be dead on arrival.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your point is correct, but I can tell you're on a cable-modem hub architecture.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            yeah i am.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          speak for yourself mate, i regularly use the steam link across my house (over wifi) and it works perfectly. im not playing online games or anything, but even shooters feel good

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            thats different. You're still playing on a computer in your home. Im talking about stadia or PSNow types of services. There is still input delay, even if your subjective opinion tells you it's "perfect"

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Also, I never got the use case of steam link. Why not just use pic related

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              what am I looking at here?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can't help you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                hdmi cable that doubles as an ethernet

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Unless your house spans the length of an entire continent your anecdote is literally worthless

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i finished at least 5 games playing on geforce now, and the input delay, while undeniably noticeable, was never that big to make those games unplayable
          obviously i'm not talking about first person shooters, racing games, or any kind of game where fucked up input delay can and will cause issues, but it's definitely not as bad as being "dead on arrival"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The signal still has a physical limit: the speed of light.

        And it unironically is not fast enough to make certain types of games acceptable to be played via streaming.

        The idea is not entirely pointless, but it excludes entire genres. It can have a place in the industry, but never be it's cornerstone.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have like 150ms ping with inhouse streaming. Might just be because of my shitty laptop but anyway.
    Gabe plays games, he is not a business men in a suit trying to explain to people why they need nft

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The abject failure of Stadia is a great reason not to try it themselves. It's not like Google lacked the resources or technical skill to make it successful.
    And that's a good thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Google absolutely lacks the technical skill to make it successful. It took them two years to realize negative latency can't exist.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact it's a terribly stupid idea which will never catch on due to American ISPs being garbage-tier.
    Nvidia is throwing their hat in to it, though, since Jacketman decided that grafix cards are only for Saudi billionaires. I don't know if they followed up on that paid subscription nvidia access thing where you paid to have a game streamed to you running off 3090s they have racked up somewhere.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cloud gaming being ass

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    GeForce Now is exactly that.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steam link is doing its job

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there people that actually like their games looking like they are watching a video of the game being played?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if Stadia failed even with the practically-infinite resources of google and also the infrastructure to make game streaming seem feasible in the first place, what makes you think Valve would have a chance without either of those things?

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