Absolutely. Especially compared to the fucking gay friends in Kalos. God I hated them so, so much.
Turns out getting to know people before they become your friends and having some harmless conflicts going between them is a million times more interesting than a group of literally who's who act like they are your best buddies.
Nemona was a very good compromise as far as rivals go. She’s competitive without being an asshole, so she can be your friend and still want to test herself against you.
Arven I feel is more of a better character than a rival. I can get behind a boy who wants to help his pupper heal and recover from serious injuries, and he was pretty compelling the whole way through the Titan missions and great in area 0
>I'm proud enough to tell everyone on Ganker that I bought both games at launch even though I'm basically penniless
Holy shit that's embarrassing as fuck
Best rival or not I want to know what type of underwear Nemona would wear.
With a sporty attitude id say sports bra and panties but the miss perfect at academics angle makes me believe she wears lacey sexy bra and thong/side-tie underwear.
That doesn't answer the question anon, she could think her sports bra is her sexy underwear for her future bf/gf but I wanna know which she wears regularly.
God I wish that was me
[...]
Lies
Go outside, check the first bush near your home im sure there's a girl like her behind it rn.
Yeah because I want to have vaginal sex with Penny while we watch some shitty anime together
Depending on the anime it could encourage this behavior
They're a decent bunch. Better than Galar's and Kalos's absolutely.
But far from the best.
Arven was the best character and even then he was discount Lillie.
Nemona was fine but she really needed some conflict.
Penny was trash. You know her "twist" the second you meet her.
This is the first time I've seen someone say that.
Agreed, he is pretty much the same character trope as Lillie but with actual depth and a motivation beyond family issues. And unlike Lillie he had to accept that his family died by the end instead of a deus ex machina of friendship.
That said Nemona is just spamming the fight button and Penny has a background less interesting than gen 6 "rivals". And that's a feat of bad writing.
Arven is also largely independent as a character, he only needs help with the titans. Lillie can't do shit on her own, so we constantly have to hold her hand and slog through her(!) cutscenes. That makes her far more annoying than Arven. People just like her more because they can coom to her
And Nemona isn't that bad. The Area Zero and postgame stuff shows that she has pretty much literal autism which makes it hard for her to find friends. Battling is her special interest and she saw your potential which is why she's instantly clinging to you
Penny definitely needed more time in the oven though
arven is lili well done this last game during is no more a pretty accessory and that's it and the only moments of development that he has are during the bridge and when mother yells at him being very anticlimactic and then he goes off to kanto while growing arven is more costly having to change and accept your reality
Ok, so like, legit discussion, what do people actually like about previous rivals? Mostly the "asshole" rivals, they just don't seem to have that much more personality than any other rival. And if they do, I would actually like to know
>Blue Oak
Terrible mouth, but if you look closely, he was actually a wholesome guy who would give you tips when you need them the most. >Silver Giovanni
Probably the only true asshole rival in the mainline games. I like how he was desperate to get stronger but if you don't have Mystery Gift, you'll never know his true motive. >Wally
The games managed to portray his progress from a dying weakling with asthma to someone who can serve as your stepping stone despite being a tertiary character who serve literally zero purpose to the progression of the story. >Barry
Fucking obnoxious >Hugh
I like him. But crusading against a dangerous terrorist group just for the sake of retrieving a fucking Purrloin is just plain dumb. >Shauna
Made for sex. I can't remember the others. Even a random tree in Santalune Forest is more memorable than them. >Gladion
Hugh 2.0 >Hop
Hau 2.0
What about May/Brendan, Cheren/Bianca and Serena Calem?
Also I hardly consider Wally a rival in the slightest, you only get one real fight with him at the end, but I did like the ORAS version for giving slightly more depth
Oh wait. Cheren/Bianca. Forgot about them because I tend to replay BW2 more than BW. I can say that Cheren was like Blue but a whole lot more polite. Bianca was like Shauna and Lillie, a weak and typical femme fatale
>Bianca was like Shauna and Lillie, a weak and typical femme fatale >femme fatale
That is not how that word is used in the slightest. >mysterious, beautiful, and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers
>The games managed to portray his progress from a dying weakling with asthma to someone who can serve as your stepping stone
They didn't.
And I'm a big Hoennfag but that was always an issue with those games and ORAS didn't do shit to solve them.
Arven was fun. Nemona was generic but somewhat enjoyable. I wanted to trip Penny in Area Zero and watch her body fall down until it landed into tiny bloody bits, then feed the bits to my paradox Salamence
To be fair, Penny has her own close friends in Team Star, so she isn't really supposed to have a close connection to the MC I think. Arven and Nemona are actually the MC's friends, Arven even calls them his best friend iirc.
Doesn't help that her design is by far the weakest out of the three.
no
yes
they really arent...
Fucking barry was a better rival
HAU was a better rival. and i fucking hate hau
>Fucking barry was a better rival
aaaand here's the bait
>HAU was a better rival.
but trolling is against the rules
Kill Penny, Spit on Penny.
Nemona can stay if she gets her mouth taped.
Arven is based.
Did not pay. Did not play. Don't care. Go back to discord
Cared enough to reply :^)
You sound like a poor person obsessed with replies. So here's another (You)
FUCK no
I like Arven and Nemona, but penny is a boring character.
I'd barely count them as rivals aside from Nemona, and while she's fun, she's also far from the best
Absolutely. Especially compared to the fucking gay friends in Kalos. God I hated them so, so much.
Turns out getting to know people before they become your friends and having some harmless conflicts going between them is a million times more interesting than a group of literally who's who act like they are your best buddies.
Shauna was fuckable. If only she had been alone instead of in a group she would be more liked.
Shauna was ok but I didn't care too much about her either
I just really wanted to strangle everyone else especially that faggy stupid ginger kid
Why is Penny facing the other way?
Because she's not important and has her own friends
Nemona was a very good compromise as far as rivals go. She’s competitive without being an asshole, so she can be your friend and still want to test herself against you.
Arven I feel is more of a better character than a rival. I can get behind a boy who wants to help his pupper heal and recover from serious injuries, and he was pretty compelling the whole way through the Titan missions and great in area 0
>AI generator
kys pedo freak
>AI=pedo
?
Oh…… it’s retarded
>You sound like a poor person obsessed with replies. So here's another (You)
Also, poor enough to buy both games at launch, right?
>I'm proud enough to tell everyone on Ganker that I bought both games at launch even though I'm basically penniless
Holy shit that's embarrassing as fuck
>Also, poor enough to buy both games at launch, right?
arven was a friend
nemona was a rival
penny deserves death
>Thinks I care about GF as a company
I wanna fuck all of them
They cute
Best rival or not I want to know what type of underwear Nemona would wear.
With a sporty attitude id say sports bra and panties but the miss perfect at academics angle makes me believe she wears lacey sexy bra and thong/side-tie underwear.
Only for someone she likes
That doesn't answer the question anon, she could think her sports bra is her sexy underwear for her future bf/gf but I wanna know which she wears regularly.
Go outside, check the first bush near your home im sure there's a girl like her behind it rn.
Depending on the anime it could encourage this behavior
God I wish that was me
Lies
>you will never get looked at like this
uploaded the wrong one
Cute
They're a decent bunch. Better than Galar's and Kalos's absolutely.
But far from the best.
Arven was the best character and even then he was discount Lillie.
Nemona was fine but she really needed some conflict.
Penny was trash. You know her "twist" the second you meet her.
Arven is improved Lillie
This is the first time I've seen someone say that.
Agreed, he is pretty much the same character trope as Lillie but with actual depth and a motivation beyond family issues. And unlike Lillie he had to accept that his family died by the end instead of a deus ex machina of friendship.
That said Nemona is just spamming the fight button and Penny has a background less interesting than gen 6 "rivals". And that's a feat of bad writing.
Arven is also largely independent as a character, he only needs help with the titans. Lillie can't do shit on her own, so we constantly have to hold her hand and slog through her(!) cutscenes. That makes her far more annoying than Arven. People just like her more because they can coom to her
And Nemona isn't that bad. The Area Zero and postgame stuff shows that she has pretty much literal autism which makes it hard for her to find friends. Battling is her special interest and she saw your potential which is why she's instantly clinging to you
Penny definitely needed more time in the oven though
>actual depth and a motivation beyond family issues
such as?
> instead of a deus ex machina of friendship.
What deus ex machina?
arven is lili well done this last game during is no more a pretty accessory and that's it and the only moments of development that he has are during the bridge and when mother yells at him being very anticlimactic and then he goes off to kanto while growing arven is more costly having to change and accept your reality
SV didn't do the best of literally anything. They all around sucked, worse than even SWSH.
t. Didn't play it
Yeah because I want to have vaginal sex with Penny while we watch some shitty anime together
>rivals
Arven and Nemona are your spouses.
Ok, so like, legit discussion, what do people actually like about previous rivals? Mostly the "asshole" rivals, they just don't seem to have that much more personality than any other rival. And if they do, I would actually like to know
It's just a mix of nostalgia and the fact that it feels more satisfying to kick someone's ass in a battle when they're assholes.
Assholes are just good rival material.
Someone telling you, "Smell ya later" is perfectly hateable so kicking his ass feels good at a basic level.
>Blue Oak
Terrible mouth, but if you look closely, he was actually a wholesome guy who would give you tips when you need them the most.
>Silver Giovanni
Probably the only true asshole rival in the mainline games. I like how he was desperate to get stronger but if you don't have Mystery Gift, you'll never know his true motive.
>Wally
The games managed to portray his progress from a dying weakling with asthma to someone who can serve as your stepping stone despite being a tertiary character who serve literally zero purpose to the progression of the story.
>Barry
Fucking obnoxious
>Hugh
I like him. But crusading against a dangerous terrorist group just for the sake of retrieving a fucking Purrloin is just plain dumb.
>Shauna
Made for sex. I can't remember the others. Even a random tree in Santalune Forest is more memorable than them.
>Gladion
Hugh 2.0
>Hop
Hau 2.0
What about May/Brendan, Cheren/Bianca and Serena Calem?
Also I hardly consider Wally a rival in the slightest, you only get one real fight with him at the end, but I did like the ORAS version for giving slightly more depth
I purposely excluded protag characters because they aren't true rivals in most cases. They act more like assistants than rivals
Oh wait. Cheren/Bianca. Forgot about them because I tend to replay BW2 more than BW. I can say that Cheren was like Blue but a whole lot more polite. Bianca was like Shauna and Lillie, a weak and typical femme fatale
>Bianca was like Shauna and Lillie, a weak and typical femme fatale
>femme fatale
That is not how that word is used in the slightest.
>mysterious, beautiful, and seductive woman whose charms ensnare her lovers
>a weak and typical femme fatale
I don't think you know what femme fatale means.
>The games managed to portray his progress from a dying weakling with asthma to someone who can serve as your stepping stone
They didn't.
And I'm a big Hoennfag but that was always an issue with those games and ORAS didn't do shit to solve them.
I still like the rude rival more.
But when it comes to the friendly rival team, these are the best.
Fuck no
No. Rivals were only good in the first 2 gens.
Arven was fun. Nemona was generic but somewhat enjoyable. I wanted to trip Penny in Area Zero and watch her body fall down until it landed into tiny bloody bits, then feed the bits to my paradox Salamence
Nobody seems to care about Penny but the amount of lust Nemona and Arven have provoked among fans is insane.
To be fair, Penny has her own close friends in Team Star, so she isn't really supposed to have a close connection to the MC I think. Arven and Nemona are actually the MC's friends, Arven even calls them his best friend iirc.
Doesn't help that her design is by far the weakest out of the three.
Only one person here is a rival.