Sonic 4 is mediocre and only looked worse because of the name, if it was called literally anything else it'll just be another forgotten game that youtubers would look fondly upon 10 years after
Episode 2 was a step in the right direction, but being tied to Episode 1 in any way, shape, or form doomed it from the start. S4E1 was arguably the single worst entry in the Sonic series.
I said 'arguably'.
Besides, at least P-06 proved there was something fun buried deep in that mound of shit. Sonic 4 Episode 1 has nothing, has produced nothing, and no amount of polishing it will really fix its major problems.
Episode 2 was definitely better, but it's still something I wouldn't go back to play.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't care, but to lump episode 1 and 2 as the samething is retarded
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's literally the second part of the game.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's Sonic 4
Anons...
Bros...
Just admit you never touched or seen episode 2 before.
Do it to save yourself from the geek embaressment of talking out of your ass. I beg you.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sonic 4 isn't a good game, get over it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Sonic 4 was two episodes
1 and 2 ARE NOT THE SAME. You insufferable larping pos
You are being a dumb nagger and anyone who has played both or even seen both can tell you that you're full of shit.
You think you're comparing sonic 3 to sonic and knuckles. nagger that's not the same comparison here.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The game is trash
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
nagger
Which Sonic 4?!?!?! There's TWO OF THEM YOU MORON
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>1 and 2 are not the same >but owners of 2 who also own 1 get Episode Metal which is 4 levels of 1 with 2's physics as well, so you get a microcosm of both games together
at that point what can you say
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
That as with any Sonic game, the cope is real.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>What can you say
Easy, it was fun and interesting to see Metal Sonic's story.
That as with any Sonic game, the cope is real.
This isn't a cope, this is you not admitting you have no idea what you're talking about but for some reason want to insist you do.
You never played episode 2. Just admit it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>getting this uppity over a shit game
only pokefags rival this astral autism
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can troll post all you want, Episode 4 was way better and I do replay it when I marathon Sonic games. Episode 1 definitely felt like it needed some more time but they really picked up momentum with episode 2 across the board in terms of quality and expectation
I would even go as far to say if Episode 2 was episode 1, the entire outlook on Sonic 4 as a whole would be completely different.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It would still be seen as more generic and boring than even Advanced 1.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know what you're trying to say because I have always hated the Sonic handheld games unlike you count mobile games as handheld becayse runners, dash and even jump are/were good toilet time sitting fun.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
unlike=unless
>Episode 4
i don't want to live in whatever bizarro universe you're in right now where sonic fucking 4 made it to an episode 4
I'm making more typos now, the beers are kicking in. I'm locked into buzzed territory.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>AIfag >drunk
that explains the shit taste
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Episode 4
i don't want to live in whatever bizarro universe you're in right now where sonic fucking 4 made it to an episode 4
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The embarrassment is all yours anon
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not the one bashing something they never played. You naggers act like you know everything without playing or indulging in the actual subject. You're just following the bandwagon and larping like you know from personal experience.
That's all this board has become, a bunch of losers who follow trends and hate and love things based on popularity according to what the internet says.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
All I know is I finished episode 1 but got burned out on 2. They're both garbage.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
okay, how far did you get in episode 2? It's not a long game.
It really isn't, consider how functional it is out of the box without updates that's about on par with cyberpunk 2077, better even. it would also have been patched a ton if it came out today. Most of the issues with it are technical like load times, glitches and so on.
06 is worse if you consider the technical issues and controls, but Episode 1 and Forces are worse if you compare the premise to the execution. Rise of Lyric is even worse than any of them because it’s both broken and bland.
You either have never played Sonic 06 or in some sort of denial how utterly broken that game is.
Yeah, not called Sonic Adventure 3, and design-wise wasn't Sonic Adventure 3. There isn't a Sonic Adventure 3.
That doesn't make sense. Sonic 06 and Sonic Unleashed (World Adventure) had the same things that Sonic Adventure had besides name and chao. You're just a dumb fuck at that point.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That doesn't make sense.
Sure it does. It wasn't designed as Sonic Adventure 3. It wasn't called Sonic Adventure 3. It isn't Sonic Adventure 3. Simple. So simple a 5-year-old could understand it. You have no excuse not to.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's literally the same outline as adventure 1 and 2
How are you this autistic?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It's literally the same outline as adventure 1 and 2
Game design is completely different. Art style is pretty different. Tone is pretty different. No Chao Garden. Not called Adventure 3. Not Adventure 3. >How are you this autistic?
Do you think saying that gives you any credibility after saying absolutely autistic shit like "this game is a game it isn't because of some arbitrary homosexualry nobody cares about"?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Game design is completely different.
Adventure 1's gameplay was different from Adventure 2...what's your point? >Art style is pretty different.
Again, Artstyle in Adventure 1 was different in adventure 2....what's your point? >Tone is pretty different.
No idea what that is implying considering we have been fighting deities since Sonic Adventure 1. >No Chao Garden
So? After the dreamcast died and the "Directors cut" and "battle" of SA 1 and SA 2, nothing like that has existed since then. Probably never will again since we live in fucking 2023. >Not called Adventure 3. Not Adventure 3.
So what? 06 and unleashed both have the same exact elements (and i'll say this again because you apparently are slow) the naming and the chao
You're just being a moron.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Adventure 1's gameplay was different from Adventure 2.
Not so drastically. Still incorporated the same basic controls, physics, and multiple characters scheme. >Again, Artstyle in Adventure 1 was different in adventure 2
Again, not so drastically. It's the same thing but more polished for the most part. Unleashed goes in a completely different direction with its human designs. Something like Shadow's humans would be closer. >No idea what that is implying considering we have been fighting deities since Sonic Adventure 1.
Reductionist homosexual, not worth reading the rest of your clueless, emptyheaded post.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Not so drastically. Still incorporated the same basic controls, physics, and multiple characters scheme.
I can't legit tell if you're trolling or just stupid to even say for a second that Adventure 1 is the same as Adventure 2 in terms of physics, basic controlls and multiple character "scheme". You're flat out wrong. Adventure 1 had WAY MORE diversity between the 6 characters, 2 boiled them down to 3 seperate mechanics FOR STARTERS. Bro, do you even pay attention to anything in your life?
>Again, not so drastically. It's the same thing but more polished for the most part. Unleashed goes in a completely different direction with its human designs. Something like Shadow's humans would be closer.
What you're saying is also autistic, Sonic Unleashed was released in 2008, Sonic Adventure 2 was released in 2001. Sonic Adventure was released in 1999. Bro, you can't expect the same exact art style from that huge of a game especially from different people. You're fucking nuts. >Reductionist homosexual, not worth reading the rest of your clueless, emptyheaded post.
Right back at ya you fucking psycho. Take your meds and get the fuck out of here you delusional bastard.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I can't legit tell if you're trolling or just stupid to even say for a second that Adventure 1 is the same as Adventure 2 in terms of physics, basic controlls and multiple character "scheme".
It's a clear continuation of it. Unlike Unleashed. You are so fucking disingenuous, you're probably just pretending to be this retarded. Nobody could unironically believe Adventure 1 -> Adventure 2 -> Unleashed makes sense. Unleashed has more in common with Rush than it does Adventure or Adventure 2.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Go ahead, ignore my other two points nagger. We both know I'm right. That's why you won't address that shit. Suck my fucking dick.
Secondly, you have no problem Adventure 2 watering down the gameplay of the characters before, so why is it suddenly a problem boiling it down to two different playstyles? Because you refuse to admit it.
Sonic unleashed has hub worlds like Sonic Adventure 1. Has map selection like Adventure 2. Has a plot that revolves around saving the world from an ancient monster like SA 1, 2, 06.
The only difference is the naming which you refuse to admit World Adventure does imply Adventure in the title yet failed to realize that when Sega released Sonic Adventure 1 again with updates to Japan, they named it Sonic Adventure international. So even naming fucking fits with World Adventure.
The only reason why it feels so different because this was the era they were trying to listen to fan feedback after the failure of Sonic 06. It's still behaves like an adventure game. Cope you autistic failure.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
By your logic Advance 3 is more Adventure 3 than Unleashed is, since it's closer in design to Adventure 2 than Unleashed is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I never said that, you're trying to move the starpost.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Alright, then now you're implying that the title sharing similarities supersedes whether the game design actually stems from the game you're claiming it's a direct successor to. You've completely undermined most of your own points now you silly little autistic retard.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Again, I never said that. You're not listening at all, which I'm not surprised considering how fucking retarded you are despite I just blew you out of the fucking water with FACTS
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're so angry you're not even listening to yourself, dumbass. You implied it. You undermined yourself. You are fucking stupid. And Unleashed is obviously not what Adventure 3 would be. That's why 99% of people vaguely interested in Sonic still want Adventure 3 to happen. And your autistic retard fat smelly ass gaping open to shit out your "Unleashed IS Adventure 3" diarrhea doesn't quell that in the fucking least, since most people have functioning brains.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>since most people have functioning brains.
This is proof you have not been outside in a VERY long time. I just wanted to get this out of the way before ripping you another hole for you to cry into.
>And Unleashed is obviously not what Adventure 3 would be. That's why 99% of people vaguely interested in Sonic still want Adventure 3 to happen.
It is Adventure, they just called it World Adventure. Cope autist.
If having Adventure in the title is all it takes why isn't the Rush sequel considered an Adventure game? Why isn't the Mania Adventures cartoon an Adventure game? >watering down the gameplay
It literally expanded on the gameplay for the 3 types it chose, you retard. >2 >ancient evil >50 years ago is the same as hundreds of years ago
I wish you were baiting but some people really are this stupid.
You do realize you're arguing with me right? Or did you reply to the wrong anon?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>It is Adventure, they just called it World Adventure.
Then it's not Adventure 3.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can keep crying about not getting your tamagatchi game no one gave a fuck about but people like you all you want.
Unleashed is the first World Adventure game, not to be confused with the regular Adventure games.
Says who?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Unleashed is the first World Adventure game, not to be confused with the regular Adventure games.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AAAAAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHA
SUCK MY DICK
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Reassuringly, the game's lead designer Yoshihisa Hashimoto at Sonic Team has cut ties with the badly received last ADVENTURE
06 confirmed as an Adventure game >The new game, which will be receiving versions on both Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3
Both...3 systems. And they forgot PS2. Retards.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>He doesn't know how to read
AAAAAAHAHAHAHA
In the words of philosopher Phil Fish:
"Suck my dick, choke on it"
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>originally
What a massive change. They even ended up cutting Knuckles.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Unleashed is the first World Adventure game, not to be confused with the regular Adventure games.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That's why 99% of people vaguely interested in Sonic still want Adventure 3 to happen.
They want a good game, "Adventure 3" is just the name they've attached to this future good 3D Sonic game that exists in their heads.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
If having Adventure in the title is all it takes why isn't the Rush sequel considered an Adventure game? Why isn't the Mania Adventures cartoon an Adventure game? >watering down the gameplay
It literally expanded on the gameplay for the 3 types it chose, you retard. >2 >ancient evil >50 years ago is the same as hundreds of years ago
I wish you were baiting but some people really are this stupid.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Bro, you can't expect the same exact art style from that huge of a game especially from different people.
Then how did Mania team manage to do the same exact style as the classics?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You must be blind if you think sonic 1, 2 or 3's sprite work of Sonic is the same as Mania's
Even drawn promotional art isn't the same. What on earth are you on about?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Even drawn promotional art isn't the same.
It's the same as CD's
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Anon, you do know there were two art styles being shown during that period right?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Holy kek. Sonic 4 has the same outline as 1 and 2, that means it's just like the classics! This is what you sound like which is why nobody takes you seriously.
Nah, Shad05 was more damaging and Boom was a worse game overall. In fact the only people that hate 4 are the ones that take the franchise too seriously. Journos liked it, normalfags liked it, casual fans thought it was fine, then the turbo autists who obsess about canon and think every 2D game needs to be 2 or 3K and every 3D game needs to be SA2 acted like 4 ran over their dog and pissed on their mom's early grave.
>who obsess about canon
retard >and think every 2D game needs to be 2 or 3K
They're literally selling it as a direct follow up to those game so it fucking better live up to them, but it didn't in any shape or form, by a significant margin. Sonic 4's shit, period point blank.
the fact that the tag actions paused you dead in your tracks killed any potential this game might have had
also anyone who thinks sonic superstars bosses are bad needs to play the oil desert boss to get a serious reality check
We might still get a good Sonic game with no asterisks someday! We might still get SA3 someday! We might still get a Sonic movie that isn't filled with 5+ year old zoomer memes someday! We might still get a Sonic game with a budget someday! We might still get a fandom that isn't 24/7 drunk on the highest proof copium this side of the pokemon fandom!
nagger Heroes is more of an Adventure game than boostshit and Shadow is SA2's actual story continuation, not to mention 06 being SA3 in every way possible minus name and chao. Unleashed is shit and its japanese name means nothing.
Superstars falls into the good with an asterisk pile because while it is good, and has a lot to like about it if you're a huge Sonic fan or know about some scrapped concepts from the Genesis era, it's held back by many bosses just being a drag. Mostly in the Trip campaign because several of the bosses in the main game can be sped up/cheesed with the powers or Amy/Trip's double jump
Even episode 1 wasn't bad, The hate for 4 is completely overblown, it's as good of an inoffensive if competent mobile game as Superstars is a handheld game. The worst things about 4 are the soundfont and the usage of 4 instead of The Portable, that's literally it. The physics and level design aren't that exciting but they're lenient and passable enough for a cell phone game. In fact I would even say it was in the upper tier of phone games at the time. There are way worse Sonic games out there.
>Even episode 1 wasn't bad
Aggresively boring, unremarkable and forgettable on top of being too short, stiff controls and janky physics. And to make things worse the music was irrelevant and added absolutely nothing or had nothing new
And it's supposed to be a mainline game on the vein of Sonic 2 and the likes. It's aSonic game that doesn't do anything good like the other (previous) games, let that sink in
It was "good" in the sense that it encouraged a big enough wave of fan quality games to release so that you would never have an urge to try Sonic 4 Episode 2.
It was middling. It existed, it was adequate, it got things that other games fucked up and messed up some in return. Metal Sonic's return was neat but ultimately superfluous. The music was alright despite what some may say, it's just the boss fight music was absolutely fucking insufferable because of the 15 second loop that lasts for fights going on far too long. And the tag team actions were kind of clunky and not very fun to use besides literal hold-right-to-win Super 69 Attack bullshit, which says all it really needs to. At the end of the day, if you itch for more Sonic, you can do worse than S4E2, but if you went your life without playing it, you wouldn't be missing much either unless you played E1 in a bundle and had to wash the taste out of your mouth.
No, you're implying they're the same game
They're not, they may interact and "lock on" for episode metal. But to say they belong in the same league or the same anything is completely insane.
4e1 was bad as a Sonic game but an acceptable platformer by itself.
4e2 was fine as a Sonic game, not great or anywhere on par with the original 5 though.
The worst has got to be Sonic Genesis for the GBA. But not counting ports, Sonic 4 Episode 1 was a kick in the balls. At least they were numb by the time Episode 2 came.
Sonic Team and Game Freak are tied in 1st place for laziest developers in the industry.
If names matter that much then Rush wouldn't be Adventure 3 anyway since it wasn't fucking called that. That plus it isn't designed as a natural evolution or even continuation of the Adventure and Adventure 2 style and formula at all. 06 is closer. Advance 3 is closer. Even Dream Team will be closer and that's just phone shovelware.
Advance 3's characters are just Sonic with some different abilities, Rush ADVENTURE has wildly different playstyles and has shooting sections and treasure hunting which makes it as Adventure as a Sonic game can get.
>Advance 3's characters are just Sonic with some different abilities
Tails was just Sonic with flight in Adventure 1. And Shadow was just Sonic with different levels. Advance 3 is still closer to Adventure than Unleashed is.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Advance 3 is still closer to Adventure than Unleashed is.
i can't tell if you're trying to match his IQ or shitposting at this point.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
This whole thread is just shitposters baiting each other
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
i have not been shitposting at all this entire thread.
I'm the OG who claimed unleashed is sonic adventure 3 and another anon went autistic. I even posted my evidence of my claims
I am also the one who said sonic 4 episode 2 was different and way better than episode 1 and not the same experience.
Just because people say things you don't like or understand doesn't mean they're shitposting. You need to learn to cope with data being presented to you.
Episode 2's soundtrack is superior to mania and superstars (I know superstars has remixes of the classic songs but they sick due to tee lopes repetitive new jack swing style)
Sonic 4 is Sonic 4 and you don't get to decide that. Mania not acknowledging it means nothing when the game still exists, is sold, and had official remixes since then.
Episodes 1 and 2 are contenders for the worst Sonic games. They do nothing on par with the Genesis or GBA games.
You never played episode 2, quit the larp now
yes I fucking did, bitch
Sonic 4 is mediocre and only looked worse because of the name, if it was called literally anything else it'll just be another forgotten game that youtubers would look fondly upon 10 years after
Episode 2 was a step in the right direction, but being tied to Episode 1 in any way, shape, or form doomed it from the start. S4E1 was arguably the single worst entry in the Sonic series.
worse than 06?
I said 'arguably'.
Besides, at least P-06 proved there was something fun buried deep in that mound of shit. Sonic 4 Episode 1 has nothing, has produced nothing, and no amount of polishing it will really fix its major problems.
Sonic 1 and 2 prove that 4 could have been good lmao
I always love comments like this because episode 2 was better and by saying 4 you think episodes 1 and 2 were exactly the same.
NTA but, what are you even trying to say?
Episode 2 was definitely better, but it's still something I wouldn't go back to play.
I don't care, but to lump episode 1 and 2 as the samething is retarded
It's literally the second part of the game.
Anons...
Bros...
Just admit you never touched or seen episode 2 before.
Do it to save yourself from the geek embaressment of talking out of your ass. I beg you.
Sonic 4 isn't a good game, get over it.
Sonic 4 was two episodes
1 and 2 ARE NOT THE SAME. You insufferable larping pos
You are being a dumb nagger and anyone who has played both or even seen both can tell you that you're full of shit.
You think you're comparing sonic 3 to sonic and knuckles. nagger that's not the same comparison here.
The game is trash
nagger
Which Sonic 4?!?!?! There's TWO OF THEM YOU MORON
>1 and 2 are not the same
>but owners of 2 who also own 1 get Episode Metal which is 4 levels of 1 with 2's physics as well, so you get a microcosm of both games together
at that point what can you say
That as with any Sonic game, the cope is real.
>What can you say
Easy, it was fun and interesting to see Metal Sonic's story.
This isn't a cope, this is you not admitting you have no idea what you're talking about but for some reason want to insist you do.
You never played episode 2. Just admit it.
>getting this uppity over a shit game
only pokefags rival this astral autism
You can troll post all you want, Episode 4 was way better and I do replay it when I marathon Sonic games. Episode 1 definitely felt like it needed some more time but they really picked up momentum with episode 2 across the board in terms of quality and expectation
I would even go as far to say if Episode 2 was episode 1, the entire outlook on Sonic 4 as a whole would be completely different.
It would still be seen as more generic and boring than even Advanced 1.
I don't know what you're trying to say because I have always hated the Sonic handheld games unlike you count mobile games as handheld becayse runners, dash and even jump are/were good toilet time sitting fun.
unlike=unless
I'm making more typos now, the beers are kicking in. I'm locked into buzzed territory.
>AIfag
>drunk
that explains the shit taste
>Episode 4
i don't want to live in whatever bizarro universe you're in right now where sonic fucking 4 made it to an episode 4
The embarrassment is all yours anon
I'm not the one bashing something they never played. You naggers act like you know everything without playing or indulging in the actual subject. You're just following the bandwagon and larping like you know from personal experience.
That's all this board has become, a bunch of losers who follow trends and hate and love things based on popularity according to what the internet says.
All I know is I finished episode 1 but got burned out on 2. They're both garbage.
okay, how far did you get in episode 2? It's not a long game.
Stopped on act 2 or 3 of the desert level.
It's Sonic 4
06 would be considered a 7/10 like Frontiers if it released today.
>06 would be considered a 7/10 like Frontiers if it released today.
This is a fucking lie
It really isn't, consider how functional it is out of the box without updates that's about on par with cyberpunk 2077, better even. it would also have been patched a ton if it came out today. Most of the issues with it are technical like load times, glitches and so on.
>They never updated games with patches back in 2006
Found the underage
06 is worse if you consider the technical issues and controls, but Episode 1 and Forces are worse if you compare the premise to the execution. Rise of Lyric is even worse than any of them because it’s both broken and bland.
They're all bad but 06 has soul.
I literally can't take you seriously
That's fair, I hate sand levels too
no one asked for the approval of an ai pajeet anyway
You either have never played Sonic 06 or in some sort of denial how utterly broken that game is.
That doesn't make sense. Sonic 06 and Sonic Unleashed (World Adventure) had the same things that Sonic Adventure had besides name and chao. You're just a dumb fuck at that point.
>That doesn't make sense.
Sure it does. It wasn't designed as Sonic Adventure 3. It wasn't called Sonic Adventure 3. It isn't Sonic Adventure 3. Simple. So simple a 5-year-old could understand it. You have no excuse not to.
It's literally the same outline as adventure 1 and 2
How are you this autistic?
>It's literally the same outline as adventure 1 and 2
Game design is completely different. Art style is pretty different. Tone is pretty different. No Chao Garden. Not called Adventure 3. Not Adventure 3.
>How are you this autistic?
Do you think saying that gives you any credibility after saying absolutely autistic shit like "this game is a game it isn't because of some arbitrary homosexualry nobody cares about"?
>Game design is completely different.
Adventure 1's gameplay was different from Adventure 2...what's your point?
>Art style is pretty different.
Again, Artstyle in Adventure 1 was different in adventure 2....what's your point?
>Tone is pretty different.
No idea what that is implying considering we have been fighting deities since Sonic Adventure 1.
>No Chao Garden
So? After the dreamcast died and the "Directors cut" and "battle" of SA 1 and SA 2, nothing like that has existed since then. Probably never will again since we live in fucking 2023.
>Not called Adventure 3. Not Adventure 3.
So what? 06 and unleashed both have the same exact elements (and i'll say this again because you apparently are slow) the naming and the chao
You're just being a moron.
>Adventure 1's gameplay was different from Adventure 2.
Not so drastically. Still incorporated the same basic controls, physics, and multiple characters scheme.
>Again, Artstyle in Adventure 1 was different in adventure 2
Again, not so drastically. It's the same thing but more polished for the most part. Unleashed goes in a completely different direction with its human designs. Something like Shadow's humans would be closer.
>No idea what that is implying considering we have been fighting deities since Sonic Adventure 1.
Reductionist homosexual, not worth reading the rest of your clueless, emptyheaded post.
>Not so drastically. Still incorporated the same basic controls, physics, and multiple characters scheme.
I can't legit tell if you're trolling or just stupid to even say for a second that Adventure 1 is the same as Adventure 2 in terms of physics, basic controlls and multiple character "scheme". You're flat out wrong. Adventure 1 had WAY MORE diversity between the 6 characters, 2 boiled them down to 3 seperate mechanics FOR STARTERS. Bro, do you even pay attention to anything in your life?
>Again, not so drastically. It's the same thing but more polished for the most part. Unleashed goes in a completely different direction with its human designs. Something like Shadow's humans would be closer.
What you're saying is also autistic, Sonic Unleashed was released in 2008, Sonic Adventure 2 was released in 2001. Sonic Adventure was released in 1999. Bro, you can't expect the same exact art style from that huge of a game especially from different people. You're fucking nuts.
>Reductionist homosexual, not worth reading the rest of your clueless, emptyheaded post.
Right back at ya you fucking psycho. Take your meds and get the fuck out of here you delusional bastard.
>I can't legit tell if you're trolling or just stupid to even say for a second that Adventure 1 is the same as Adventure 2 in terms of physics, basic controlls and multiple character "scheme".
It's a clear continuation of it. Unlike Unleashed. You are so fucking disingenuous, you're probably just pretending to be this retarded. Nobody could unironically believe Adventure 1 -> Adventure 2 -> Unleashed makes sense. Unleashed has more in common with Rush than it does Adventure or Adventure 2.
Go ahead, ignore my other two points nagger. We both know I'm right. That's why you won't address that shit. Suck my fucking dick.
Secondly, you have no problem Adventure 2 watering down the gameplay of the characters before, so why is it suddenly a problem boiling it down to two different playstyles? Because you refuse to admit it.
Sonic unleashed has hub worlds like Sonic Adventure 1. Has map selection like Adventure 2. Has a plot that revolves around saving the world from an ancient monster like SA 1, 2, 06.
The only difference is the naming which you refuse to admit World Adventure does imply Adventure in the title yet failed to realize that when Sega released Sonic Adventure 1 again with updates to Japan, they named it Sonic Adventure international. So even naming fucking fits with World Adventure.
The only reason why it feels so different because this was the era they were trying to listen to fan feedback after the failure of Sonic 06. It's still behaves like an adventure game. Cope you autistic failure.
By your logic Advance 3 is more Adventure 3 than Unleashed is, since it's closer in design to Adventure 2 than Unleashed is.
I never said that, you're trying to move the starpost.
Alright, then now you're implying that the title sharing similarities supersedes whether the game design actually stems from the game you're claiming it's a direct successor to. You've completely undermined most of your own points now you silly little autistic retard.
Again, I never said that. You're not listening at all, which I'm not surprised considering how fucking retarded you are despite I just blew you out of the fucking water with FACTS
You're so angry you're not even listening to yourself, dumbass. You implied it. You undermined yourself. You are fucking stupid. And Unleashed is obviously not what Adventure 3 would be. That's why 99% of people vaguely interested in Sonic still want Adventure 3 to happen. And your autistic retard fat smelly ass gaping open to shit out your "Unleashed IS Adventure 3" diarrhea doesn't quell that in the fucking least, since most people have functioning brains.
>since most people have functioning brains.
This is proof you have not been outside in a VERY long time. I just wanted to get this out of the way before ripping you another hole for you to cry into.
>And Unleashed is obviously not what Adventure 3 would be. That's why 99% of people vaguely interested in Sonic still want Adventure 3 to happen.
It is Adventure, they just called it World Adventure. Cope autist.
You do realize you're arguing with me right? Or did you reply to the wrong anon?
>It is Adventure, they just called it World Adventure.
Then it's not Adventure 3.
You can keep crying about not getting your tamagatchi game no one gave a fuck about but people like you all you want.
Says who?
https://web.archive.org/web/20080412234659/http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=186523
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>Reassuringly, the game's lead designer Yoshihisa Hashimoto at Sonic Team has cut ties with the badly received last ADVENTURE
06 confirmed as an Adventure game
>The new game, which will be receiving versions on both Wii, Xbox 360 and PS3
Both...3 systems. And they forgot PS2. Retards.
>He doesn't know how to read
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In the words of philosopher Phil Fish:
"Suck my dick, choke on it"
>originally
What a massive change. They even ended up cutting Knuckles.
Unleashed is the first World Adventure game, not to be confused with the regular Adventure games.
>That's why 99% of people vaguely interested in Sonic still want Adventure 3 to happen.
They want a good game, "Adventure 3" is just the name they've attached to this future good 3D Sonic game that exists in their heads.
If having Adventure in the title is all it takes why isn't the Rush sequel considered an Adventure game? Why isn't the Mania Adventures cartoon an Adventure game?
>watering down the gameplay
It literally expanded on the gameplay for the 3 types it chose, you retard.
>2
>ancient evil
>50 years ago is the same as hundreds of years ago
I wish you were baiting but some people really are this stupid.
>Bro, you can't expect the same exact art style from that huge of a game especially from different people.
Then how did Mania team manage to do the same exact style as the classics?
You must be blind if you think sonic 1, 2 or 3's sprite work of Sonic is the same as Mania's
Even drawn promotional art isn't the same. What on earth are you on about?
>Even drawn promotional art isn't the same.
It's the same as CD's
Anon, you do know there were two art styles being shown during that period right?
Holy kek. Sonic 4 has the same outline as 1 and 2, that means it's just like the classics! This is what you sound like which is why nobody takes you seriously.
Nah, Shad05 was more damaging and Boom was a worse game overall. In fact the only people that hate 4 are the ones that take the franchise too seriously. Journos liked it, normalfags liked it, casual fans thought it was fine, then the turbo autists who obsess about canon and think every 2D game needs to be 2 or 3K and every 3D game needs to be SA2 acted like 4 ran over their dog and pissed on their mom's early grave.
>who obsess about canon
retard
>and think every 2D game needs to be 2 or 3K
They're literally selling it as a direct follow up to those game so it fucking better live up to them, but it didn't in any shape or form, by a significant margin. Sonic 4's shit, period point blank.
the fact that the tag actions paused you dead in your tracks killed any potential this game might have had
also anyone who thinks sonic superstars bosses are bad needs to play the oil desert boss to get a serious reality check
>tag actions paused you dead in your tracks
But it plays a fun little animation and that's what modern fans love about Sonic.
I wanted a Fang campaign in Superstars.
We might still get that as DLC, anon.
We might still get a good Sonic game with no asterisks someday! We might still get SA3 someday! We might still get a Sonic movie that isn't filled with 5+ year old zoomer memes someday! We might still get a Sonic game with a budget someday! We might still get a fandom that isn't 24/7 drunk on the highest proof copium this side of the pokemon fandom!
>We might still get SA3 someday!
nagger Sonic Unleashed literally was called World Adventure in Japan.
nagger Heroes is more of an Adventure game than boostshit and Shadow is SA2's actual story continuation, not to mention 06 being SA3 in every way possible minus name and chao. Unleashed is shit and its japanese name means nothing.
you made no sense
Yeah, not called Sonic Adventure 3, and design-wise wasn't Sonic Adventure 3. There isn't a Sonic Adventure 3.
>We might still get a good Sonic game with no asterisks someday!
Mania? Superstars?
Superstars falls into the good with an asterisk pile because while it is good, and has a lot to like about it if you're a huge Sonic fan or know about some scrapped concepts from the Genesis era, it's held back by many bosses just being a drag. Mostly in the Trip campaign because several of the bosses in the main game can be sped up/cheesed with the powers or Amy/Trip's double jump
Sonic Frontiers is a good Sonic game. Top 3 in my eyes.
You think you want it but you don't.
I liked playing as him in SRB2 though.
Even episode 1 wasn't bad, The hate for 4 is completely overblown, it's as good of an inoffensive if competent mobile game as Superstars is a handheld game. The worst things about 4 are the soundfont and the usage of 4 instead of The Portable, that's literally it. The physics and level design aren't that exciting but they're lenient and passable enough for a cell phone game. In fact I would even say it was in the upper tier of phone games at the time. There are way worse Sonic games out there.
Sonic 4 controlled like shit and the physics were unforgivable.
Nah, it's perfectly serviceable.
>Even episode 1 wasn't bad
Aggresively boring, unremarkable and forgettable on top of being too short, stiff controls and janky physics. And to make things worse the music was irrelevant and added absolutely nothing or had nothing new
And it's supposed to be a mainline game on the vein of Sonic 2 and the likes. It's aSonic game that doesn't do anything good like the other (previous) games, let that sink in
All of those things are fine for just a cell phone game.
>And it's supposed to be a mainline game
Oh, so you're shitposting.
>All of those things are fine for just a cell phone game.
Released on Wii, 360 and more
Yes, and? That doesn't disprove my statement.
It was "good" in the sense that it encouraged a big enough wave of fan quality games to release so that you would never have an urge to try Sonic 4 Episode 2.
We didn't need 4 for that, we have the whole rest of the franchise.
This is the best metal sonic theme
Jun may get shit for his Genesis style music but I must say, he made some bangers for Episode 2 https://youtu.be/OatHU0_SQa8?si=UFuoggDPPGE1mAZb
It was middling. It existed, it was adequate, it got things that other games fucked up and messed up some in return. Metal Sonic's return was neat but ultimately superfluous. The music was alright despite what some may say, it's just the boss fight music was absolutely fucking insufferable because of the 15 second loop that lasts for fights going on far too long. And the tag team actions were kind of clunky and not very fun to use besides literal hold-right-to-win Super 69 Attack bullshit, which says all it really needs to. At the end of the day, if you itch for more Sonic, you can do worse than S4E2, but if you went your life without playing it, you wouldn't be missing much either unless you played E1 in a bundle and had to wash the taste out of your mouth.
Notice how Sonic’s hands go through the floor in this gif.
They're on sand we'd have to see more solid ground to know if it's actually fucked.
Episode 2 was better than Episode 1 in virtually every way imaginable, but it was still a mediocre game.
Still, it wasn't that bad. Definitely not as bad as Episode 1 which was such a frustratingly bad game to play.
Literally what I said and this retard spergs out.
No, you're implying they're the same game
They're not, they may interact and "lock on" for episode metal. But to say they belong in the same league or the same anything is completely insane.
Bruh you've been the one sperging out
Yes it was
4e1 was bad as a Sonic game but an acceptable platformer by itself.
4e2 was fine as a Sonic game, not great or anywhere on par with the original 5 though.
Are we really pretending KC was better than 4?
The worst has got to be Sonic Genesis for the GBA. But not counting ports, Sonic 4 Episode 1 was a kick in the balls. At least they were numb by the time Episode 2 came.
Sonic Team and Game Freak are tied in 1st place for laziest developers in the industry.
A bad port of 1 will always be better than a perfect port of 4.
If names matter that much then Sonic 4 is Sonic 4, no ifs ands or copes about it. If Unleashed is SA3, then 4 is 4 and is a classic Sonic game.
If names matter that much then Rush wouldn't be Adventure 3 anyway since it wasn't fucking called that. That plus it isn't designed as a natural evolution or even continuation of the Adventure and Adventure 2 style and formula at all. 06 is closer. Advance 3 is closer. Even Dream Team will be closer and that's just phone shovelware.
It has multiple playstyles and a hub just like Adventure, cope.
So does Advance 3 in greater application, it's more Adventure 3 than Unleashed is. Look, it even has a 3 in the title. That proves it.
Advance 3's characters are just Sonic with some different abilities, Rush ADVENTURE has wildly different playstyles and has shooting sections and treasure hunting which makes it as Adventure as a Sonic game can get.
>Advance 3's characters are just Sonic with some different abilities
Tails was just Sonic with flight in Adventure 1. And Shadow was just Sonic with different levels. Advance 3 is still closer to Adventure than Unleashed is.
>Advance 3 is still closer to Adventure than Unleashed is.
i can't tell if you're trying to match his IQ or shitposting at this point.
This whole thread is just shitposters baiting each other
i have not been shitposting at all this entire thread.
I'm the OG who claimed unleashed is sonic adventure 3 and another anon went autistic. I even posted my evidence of my claims
I am also the one who said sonic 4 episode 2 was different and way better than episode 1 and not the same experience.
Just because people say things you don't like or understand doesn't mean they're shitposting. You need to learn to cope with data being presented to you.
Unleashed is Adventure 6.
>Rush ADVENTURE has wildly different playstyles and has shooting sections and treasure hunting
You never played that game.
Sonic was never good.
Your existence is not good yet you're allowed to be alive still for some reason.
My existence is good, you just don't like it.
Episode 2's soundtrack is superior to mania and superstars (I know superstars has remixes of the classic songs but they sick due to tee lopes repetitive new jack swing style)
Why do sonic fans take everything so super seriously
>He doesn't take anything he likes seriously.
>Doesn't care about anything.
>Doesn't discuss anything.
>Yet wants to be here to ask this question.
Colors is World Adventure 2 and Generations is World Adventure 3, cope.
Sonic 4 is Sonic 4 and you don't get to decide that. Mania not acknowledging it means nothing when the game still exists, is sold, and had official remixes since then.
Sonic 4 has two parts and they play and look different you fucking idiot.
So does Sonic 3
You know you can stop shitposting anytime now. I'm starting to think you're not old enough to be here.
So does Sonic Colors
Sonic 4 invented running on the cieling
True
Yeah. I honestly would rather replay the first game because there I wasn't forced to use stupid Tails gimmicks.
What the fuck was the point of making Sonic 4 episodic again
Even worse