>Jensen moved software devs who were part of Nvidias driver team to the AI/machine learning projects, so Starfields "launch day" drivers actually shipped empty with no optimization for the game whatsoever. This actually has been an issue for Nvidia with previous releases earlier this year as well and multiple insiders report that the remaining parts of the Nvidia driver team are massive overworked and unable to ship anything on time in their current state.
>Instead the company has focused on driving anti-AMD narratives through their social media partners and channels claiming that AMDs partnership with Bethesda and Microsoft is the reason why the performance on Nvidia hardware falls behind the current Radeon lineup
>Bethesda apparently is very angry about this and is currently very unlikely to get into talks with Nvidia about DLSS and potential future partnerships for titles like TES:VI
Source: my ass
His source is Moore's Law Is Dead, who's actually a little less reliable than that anon's ass.
nvidia has already gone all in on ai. the majority of their valuation when they joined the trillion dollar club was ai. companies are lining up to buy a series chips for ai. it's been over for months.
It’s the consumers fault though. Poorfags actually think the 4090 is expensive when it’s the best value proposition in a decade. The AI capabilities alone make it worth more then they charge
>yes daddy corpo, please fuck me harder
If that’s what a corp fucking me looks like then give me an orgy because I love it
This. They don’t have to give a shit about vidya anymore. AMD could rule supreme if they just keep offering better price:performance and shit out something closer to DLSS rather than the blurry mess that is FSR2
why shit out something closer to DLSS when you just have superior rasterization anyway
do it native
DLSS is not better than native
Pretty much.
The PC gaming market has gotten the crumbs over the last 5 years.
I remember reading a post claiming that the ai thing is a scam tech giants are relying on as a hail mary before an inevitable market crash, is that true? The point about all the recent layoffs made this claim pretty convincing.
nah ai is here to stay. nowadays you can go from machine code to C using AI and vice versa and it will only go better once it can do C++ perfectly it will be over.
>once it can do C++ perfectly it will be over.
ETA? 2 weeks?
probably like two years
codepal.ai/code-generator/cpp
It's so fucking over for Ganker.
Only about 5% of them actually do any coding though. Most of them are just poorfags fapping over $100 circa 2008 laptops
>microwave time
Do mutts really?
No, we've had generated code for years now and the shit people call "AI" just does the exact same thing with some minor specifications if you ask for them, once you start demanding unusual stuff because of your software's usage domain is when the AI shits itself and starts outputting bullshit and outright lies.
All that the "code AI" that the Pajeets are raving about does is slightly refine generated code we've had for years as well as function as a search engine that can give you more personalized results, but again, you get the exact same value from looking it up on StackOverflow because that's also what the AI used to learn.
Remember that AI is just fancy tech dressing when the reality is that an AI is just a series of computations that outputs the best educated guess from the given input.
Also "AI" has had corporate hype before where it was expected to be able to do basically everything, which of course didn't happen and expectations fell short and funding dried up, this has happened more than once and it might be happening now, time will tell.
t. codefag
>bro you don't get it AI is ... AI we programmed it so it is AI
NTA but I would guess no. The recent tech layoffs were a correction after they all massively over-hired during the pandemic (when everyone was at home more and using their computers). AI is legitimately impressive in some regards. It’s on track to revolutionize coding, special effects, those automated helper bot voice line things, image analysis etc.
People might be overhyping it but AI has real utility. This ain’t crypto currency
you can only milk men children for so much and for that long and AI is the only path forward for technology wise choice however they could use that AI to optimize their drivers and such wouldn't you agree?
the state of AAA game development. Drop buggy badly performing shit and hope GPU drivers will fix it
>lose Bethesda as a partner
only good can come out of this
>Pick AMD over Nvidia when Nvidia owns almost the entire market
NVIDIA EVIL
Nah, you should blame Todd.
You forget that Nvidia might own the majority of hte PC GPU market but AMD owns 100% of the traditional home console market.
Porting a game from one AMD platform to AMD PC hardware is easy and one reason why AMD had kind of a revival with the RDNA 2 and 3 series.
The majority of games that use DLSS ALSO support FSR.
First bit title backd by AMD and FRS only. garden gnomes finally showing their true colors.
Frs is easier to implement than dlss
in games with TAA (aka every game) implementing ANY upscaler is trivial because TAA already provides nearly all the data needed to add an upscaler. "easier to implement" has been exposed as a lie by modders needing no time at all to copypaste DLSS from one title to another
Yeah nah
Cope more AMD drones, FSR is shit and so is your crap hardware. NVIDIA reigns supreme!
The moment intel sells off it's design business to amd so that it can focus full time on fabs is the day nvdia gets pushed out of the consumer market tbh.
Government gibs ain't free and Brandon really needs intel to be "america's own TSMC" to win re-election.
Intel's more likely to push AMD out of the lower end market at this rate lmao.
With what?
Battlemage coming.
They had a very decent first time in the discrete gpu market.
INTEL WILL NEVER BE A FOUNDRY, AMD HAS BETTER CHANCE AT REVIVING IT'S FOUNDRIES THAN INTEL KEK, THERE IS A REASON TSMC IS IN THE USA.
So that they can pull a foxconn and shut them after collecting subsidies.
THEN THE DEFENSE PACK DIES AND CHINK FUCK EM UP ANON THEY MUST BUILD FOUNDRY OR ELSE.
Then the world loses smartphones and shit for fuck knows how long. Unironically keeping the foundries hostage is how they plan to avoid becoming another Ukraine and forcing the us to send real help.
zoomers will unironically die for iphones and they're betting on it.
>another Ukraine
Imagine the inflation h-haha... better buy what you want for the next 50 years NOW while you still can
>The moment intel sells off it's design business to amd so that it can focus full time on fabs is the day nvdia gets pushed out of the consumer market tbh
There's a higher chance of RISC-V replacing x86 than that ever happening
Just you wait, Linux will become the big gaming platform and AMD's super headstart in Linux drivers will take them to the moon!
yet most console ports suck ass on AMD PC parts too if AMD wants to leverage their hold on consoles then they should also work on a porting suite for PC that directly results in massive gains on their side because leaving it up to the devs won't do them any good
>Source: Anon's crusty pajeet ass
Source: your crystal ball?
>pump into ai meme
>they hype is starting to die down
>realize you fucked over your market with the shit 40 series launch and focus solely on DLSS rather than good hardware
you think them getting butt fucked by crypto chads would straighten them up
The 40s series is such a dogshit scam. DLSS being as good as it is plus raytracing is the only reason why people still put up with Nvidias shit.
In traditional native gaming Nvidia is getting its ass kicked but nobody gives a fuck cause fake frames may as well be real now for most.
>fake frames
If you can’t tell the difference then they aren’t fake. AI is the future of gaming and compute performance
I've heard the same shit every single AMD generation since at least the R9 2XX era.
Maybe because there is some truth to this statement. I bought a 3090 and I refuse to even give the 4000 series a glance over how they keeping pushing gimmicks over performance. Every card except the 4090 has no reason to exist. Frame generation is just interpolation and when I last looked into it caused frame time variations. Why accept slop. Reject the meme cards and wait for them to serve the customer.
Most of the 4000 series is a scam yeah. Fortunately the 3000 series is good for 1080p (aka what most people use) and now that prices are back to normal it's a reasonable buy.
AMD had the chance to totally fuck over Nvidia through more aggressive pricing but they missed it.
>The 40s series is such a dogshit scam
well yeah because they're barely even gpus. until the bubble pops all you're going to see from nvidia is ai cards 'for gaming' that focus more and more on upscaling.
>the new amd card was such a good deal team green slashed the 4060 by almost 100$
just shows how fucking shit this gen has been
this is a soft repeat of the nvidia physx and gameworks fiasco where nshitia used hardware taxing and vendor locked tech on couple of games to cripple their performance in order to sell you their higher end cards they did it then and they still do it now
It's crazy how people many have just accepted this horrible generation of graphics cards.
Ports suck because they suck on console too. I hate this whole pc gaming sucks because bad port argument since most console games are currently rendering at 720p to 900p if you're lucky.
Nvidia swiftly left consumer market since its realized it woudnt be able to compete with Chinese new gaming graphic cards, so now its entirely focused on AI meme until it pops
>AI meme
Sweaty they wouldn’t be a trillion dollar company with the quarterly earnings and forward guidance if it was a meme. I hope by the end of next year they’re worth than Microsoft
I am actually active Stable DIffusion and other cores user way before it got popular. Let me trust my judgement, which is based on actual experience of working with the technology for long before and still now to say that despite all promised being generall realistic - what we have now is litteral .com bubble again, and it will implode very very loudly soon when companies realize they cant return their money fast.
I just want California to burn. Fuck that place.
what in your opinion will be the most obvious sign pre-implosion? How can the tech minded consumer benefit from this?
for once - did you know ChatGPT is actually near bankrupt?
Has Microsoft gotten their cash out or will they be burned badly?
>reported a 3 month massive decline
Yeah, because they keep making their ai retarded, shit pisses me off to no end. They have a good product and goes THINK OF HUMANITY!@!
then lobotomizes it
>dot com crash
That completely ignores the fact that most tech companies, especially the large ones, are massively profitable and sitting on low debt levels with mountains of cash. Market dynamics are completely different even if valuations are due for a correction
Does this mean I can walk into bestbuy and get a new gpu at msrp again
Nvidia mogs AMD in almost every single aspect. Cope and seethe more
every nvidia proprietary technology it ever interoduced is dead and replaced by AMD alternatives
physix vs Bullet Physics
Gsync vs Freesync
RTX vs DXR
DLSS vs FSR
>RTX vs DXR
Look the techlet pajeet's back!!
Yes we know AMD sloppily copies Nvidias work. They are perpetually playing catch up because their engineers suck
>Nvidia does X
>"IT'S BAD DON'T BUY IT, LITERALLY A SCAM"
>AMD copies it, even copies the naming scheme
>"PRAISE BE AMD"
Your brain on feces contaminated curry.
>nvidia makes a proprietary shit feature that only works on its cards and requires it paying game and other devs to implement it somehow to even work, so in total there are like 3 products that support it
>amd makes opensource framework technologies that ran on any hardware and easy to implement and become industry standard
theres a reason both current gen console are on RDNA
AMD is the only company that makes APUs.
Nvidia makes them as well. The switch is using one. Only difference is AMD has rights to the mythical x86 license and Nvidia doesn't.
Wonder where Intel will be in 5 or so years regarding SoCs. Wouldn't be surprised to see them doing some interesting stuff with them as well.
what are APUs good for? Is the idea to stick them in laptops?
>muh open source
Nobody cares pajeet. Proprietary software is almost always superior. Hence why it isn’t open source to begin with
hows your gsync monitor going?
Same as it was when I bought it. How’s your dedicated shitting street going?
Lower margins and APUs, that's pretty much all there is to it.
Open source does not matter in the slightest when companies make private deals.
a simple example
Nvidia ray tracing implementation, requires hard work to add it to games and lacks actual tools to make any game with it, so there is natively a single game with nvidia RT.
Meanwhile, the actual engine that will support making proper games with RT, UE5 with lumen, utilized DXR - so doesnt benefit from nvidia graphic cards, and nvidia exclusivity gimmic becomes pointless dead weight as right now theres litterally like 5 games you can play on your RTX card, and soon will be zero since no one is retarded to implement and used dead technology.
>devs are lazy
>this is somehow nvidias fault
There's no such thing as "nvidia RT implementation". The first RT games back when only Nvidia was making RT cards required DXR to be released by microsoft to have RT enabled.
>"every nvidia proprietary technology it ever interoduced is dead and replaced by AMD alternatives"
>"DLSS vs FSR"
it's nigh impossible to have proper tech discourse online when delusion like this still exists
You're talking to an AMDrone schizo who believes RTX/GTX stands for some super proprietary Nvidia API.
God I want to make him eat his leather coat
>A.I. tech
>more exclusive shit only for new card entries.
Yep I'm staying red
>AMD acquired Xilinx
>Still shit on AI
Not my problem, pablo.
Nvidia dividends are shit thou, why would anybody invest on it is beyond me, coca cola has way better dividends.
i didn't update my drivers since i bought my pc 8 years ago
everything still werks
why update?
Bihourly AMDfag seethe thread
Will AMD ever be able to compete in raytracing?
>This pajeet thinks that Nvidia doesn't have the money to have as many software devs as they want
>bethesda makes a shit game
>op blames nvidia who has nothing to do with it
This doesn’t make sense as they’re printing so much money they can easily afford to poach top talent.
Reminder to not reply to the schizo pajeet who believes RTX is a 3D API, you're just wasting time.
>Nvidia is putting it's employees where they'll make the more money
>instead of supporting Stardrones
>they're in trouble guys!!!
Is this a joke?
No any company that doesn’t support starfield is in trouble. Apple doesn’t support it either in macs so they are about to go under like nvidia
shiiett
Does this mean I should get a 4090 now instead of waiting for the 5090?
AAA gaming is dying and NVIDIA is making the smart move of dropping high end vidya shit for A.I.
Will we ever get TRUE raytracing at more than 30fps
>Will we ever get TRUE raytracing at more than 30fps
you got it two years ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM3myIFj97I
cyberpunk overdrive can do it too except you need DLSS/FSR on
China literally ordered 5 billion dollars of Nvidia chips, they're going to be fine
How come AMD manages to get all the console deals over Nvidia
not all of them, the switch and switch 2 use nvidia hardware
AMD has both higher end consoles
both shitboxes rely on AMD APUs you can't use some dogshit ARM core with low end nvidia chip on high powered consoles and AMD always offers the best bargain deals
Would you rather have a day 1 Starfield patch
OR
(big boob) (elf) (FFT)
The answer is obvious
Yet they still have the resources to pay for shills in backwater sewers like this. Nvidia is the only tech company you can't insult without triggering a massive defence force despite them being the most anti consumer hardware company
of all time.
Just when I thought Nvidia couldn't get even more garden gnomeier.
FSR3 better be god tier or it's over
Kind of expected as much after what happened in China, I still think Nvidia can recover though. Not too concerned about this and I don't see any shilling for AMD on any of my feeds.
It's not even AI, just a bloated script. Hoomans will NEVER EVER create true AI.
It's AI, if it takes a bloated script that's fine. What the fuck do you think AI is? It's just a program that does things intelligently.
>What the fuck do you think AI is?
Inorganic sentience created by man. NEVER EVER, hoomie.
What is sentience again?
Life's greatest mystery. We cannot even define it, let alone create it.
Then why are you talking about it as if it's some goal? It has nothing to do with AI.
Your laughable scripts have nothing to do with AI, correct.
moved software devs who were part of Nvidias driver team to the AI/machine learning projects
and this is bad why?
It's good even for vidya since they put out video game papers and are developing tech to make making games easier.
>Artificial intelligence leverages computers and machines to mimic the problem-solving and decision-making capabilities of the human mind.
They have everything to do with AI. They are AI.
It's not intelligence. It's a script shat out by script kiddies that tries to pretend being intelligent, but it will never be intelligent.
It objectively is. Animals can't do it. Most humans can't do anything it can do either. You are coping so hard, to the point it's making you less intelligent than you should be.
No, it's objectively not intelligent. Trying to mimic intelligence via decision making algorithms is not intelligence. It's a shitty script overhyped by corporate suits trying to scam retards.
There's a genuine brain dead retard right here, folks.
>script kiddie mad that his dogshit bloated script is being called out for what it is
You will never make AI. You are a retarded shill trying to scam retards.
Are luddites the new flat earthers?
...have you been living under a rock?
Not even 4chan is this asinine
> not intelligence. It's a shitty script overhyped by corporate suits trying to scam retards.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/zhKepn1ssSM
When someone get's too retarded they stop understanding what intelligence even is.
Malding script kiddies. Everyone knows it's not AI and never will be. The limitations of this tech are so laughable it will be funny watching your entire bubble pop.
meds
>it's """AI"""" because my corporate nuspeak calls it so
LOL
Wait, does Ganker still doubt the capabilities of AI and LLM's? You sincerely think the biggest companies on the planet are wasting their time and resources by investing in AI? Are you serious?
This board is techlet central, are you surprised?
It's funny to see tech illiterates who can barely work a phone talk about AI
not surprised considering the state of their linux driver recently. (and it's to my understanding the userspace portion is shared between linux & windows)
>it can do things intelligently but it's not intelligent because it just isn't okay??????