Official Scarlet and Violet Story Explanation

Okay listen up sweetie. Apparently most of you are too moronic to understand the plot of Scarlet and Violet, so let me explain it for you:

>Heath wrote his book and was a liar
>Terapagos makes imagined things real
>The professor went into area zero and tapped into Terapagos's power
>Created the creatures from Heath's book
>Player imagined meeting the professor again
>Terapagos created an alternate universe where it happened.

It pains me to see you morons pretend that Terapagos's powers aren't clearly evident.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tldr: imaginationschizo is making up another fanfic because he’s angry pokemon went the marvel route

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when did Marvel do time travel?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        endgame
        >b-but that’s disney capeshit
        exactly why op is having a melty over GF doing the same shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alternate timelines schizo, keep up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fantastic Four #5 is the earliest I can think of.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pretty sure either FF or X-Men did it really earlier on MARVEL's print life

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i meant the movies thats what everybody thinks of when they think marvel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >reminder that timecucks also have no explanation for why heath saw paradox pokemon other than fanfic headcanon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they have no explanation for why someone in the past saw things that traveled through time

        hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm really activates my almonds

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that’s not how Time Machines works tho you coping timecuck

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >time machines don't travel through time

            you're right it must be imaginationtravel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's almost like that's why they're called PARADOXES, Anon.
        As in, they have NO DISCERNABLE ORIGIN THAT CANNOT BE CONFIRMED no matter WHAT speculative answer you give with the current resources we have (and likely the resources we'll ALWAYS have until a Legends game revisits Paldea). It's DELIBERATELY UNSOLVED so they can REMAIN A PARADOX.
        It's not like they spelled this out even harder by having Koraidon/Miraidon PARADOXICALLY RECEIVE ITS NAME from the Kitakami Professor scene.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why didn't Heath see the paradoxes as we know them?
          Why are the ones he saw and describe different from the illustrations in the magazine we know look like the catchable ones?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe because he only caught a glimpse? Remember, a crew member died down there as a result of it. Not exactly an unverifiable story that someone just invents without getting checked.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Heath wrote this book and [HEADCANON]
    Great start

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      play the game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Play the game
        >read the note of the prof telling how he one day met a kid in the past that gave him a white book
        >finish the game
        >go back to the ogerporn mountain with the time manipulating neopet turtle
        >meet a younger prof thanks to time fart and give him a white book
        wow, it’s like time paradox/self fulfilling prophecy or something.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I still am curious why the area zero slab has no resolution, or the circle markings in the cave in area zero (people ASSUME its the cursed treasures, but no real confirmation,). I am happy with the paradox being closed, but they still refused to answer much on Area Zero

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they’re keeping that shit for the inevitable pokemon legends terapagos

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            GameFreak realized they can leave mysteries unsolved deliberately now because they can come back and answer them 10+ years later with a Legends game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I am absolutely convinced they wrote themselves into a corner with heath seeing pokemon that could not possibly exist in area zero with the time machine explanation, realized it, and decided to say frick it and not even attempt to explain what's happening. It's all mystery shit now.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, I think they deliberately explained so little about Terapagos to shill the anime. They'll explain more about it and Area Zero there, I'd bet my ass.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You didn't play the game. Terapagos pulls things from alternate universes. It doesn't manufacture things from thin air nor does it do time travel (on its native timeline, anyway - it seems to be able to reach into different points in time for parallel universes, but can't change events that happened on the native timeline. In the epilogue, you convince an alternate universe version of the professor and convince them not to make the time machine, removing their personal copy of the Scarlet/Violet book from that universe and thus rendering the events of the game impossible without actually altering the events of your own universe).

          It's not a self-fulfilling prophecy. We do indeed give them the white book, but as stated above, we also take their childhood Scarlet/Violet book in the process, which didn't happen in the original loop. By taking their specific book back with us - the very same book that was destined to be the key for the time machine - we render the chain of events that led to the start of the game impossible. However, since this doesn't actually change anything on our end, the only logical conclusion is that we created an alternate universe in which the time machine never gets built and Arven gets a happy ending.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's never said that the professor was convinced not to create a time machine. I don't see how that's possible given the dialogues we have with him.

            If the professor offers us his book in exchange, it is NOT because we convinced him. He offered it to us because he is aware that it is a unique opportunity which has little chance of recurring (being transported through space and time), he has seen the White Book and the latter has it captivated, he wants to read it in depth, he said so. However, the meeting began to break down. He assumes that our White Book is of great value to us, so the professor has given up his copy of the book out of principle because he finds it unfair to take ours without giving us anything in return. And as the professor still has the copy of his book on him, and this meeting was unexpected, he gave away the only object with equivalent value that he currently had on him.
            The worst part is that when it's about to end, he tells us that he would have liked to spend more time with our legendary to get to know him better. At what point can you assume he gave up? It's headcanon.

            He was never told about Arven's life. He has no idea what his child will experience. Therefore, we cannot educate him and convince him to give up his job and his dream just by asking him if he has a family.
            The professor himself expresses during the conversation that his research is no longer progressing and that he hopes that thanks to this exchange, to obtain new information which will allow him to progress in his research (this line appears AFTER we have asked our questions).
            Don't forget that there are investors who finance his project and expect results,
            You can't give up your job that allows you to live, nor your childhood dream by just asking him if he has a family. Especially since throughout the dialogue, he expresses a desire to continue (read the book, get information to move forward, get to know Aidon...)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Now I will look at the content of the White Book. What is he talking about ?

            It tells of our adventure into the depths of Zone Zero and the meet Terapagos.
            It contains data on the Teracrystal phenomenon, the Stellar type, it must mentionned the Tera Orb, etc.

            Basically, all the information that allows the professor to:
            1- How to meet Terapagos, which will force him to allow his elevator to reach the abyss. While justifying the notes that mention Terapagos
            2- Better understand the energy and the Teracristal phenomenon which are essential for him to create Tera Orb, the AI and the time machine.

            This is without taking into account the fact that the player induced the idea of Artificial Intelligence and the name "Miraidon" or "Koraidon".

            Also realize that the time machine does not need the book to function. In fact, it is an identifier which is hidden in the book which allows you to operate the machine.

            Given the fact that the professor is destined to meet Terapagos, which means that a temporal phenomenon can occur again, making it possible to find your book. In order to close the loop, with real causality.

            I would like to remind you that Heath has already met Terapagos and experienced a similar phenomenon. However, when he woke up, he had the impression of having experienced a dream, his memory was incomplete, he could only rely on his writings. This is one of the reasons why he was taken for a liar (This is why Briar specialized in the study of the Teracristal phenomenon and Terapagos to prove that his ancestor is right).
            The player at the crystal lake reproduced a similar scene with the professor. This is why we find ourselves in our bed, as if we had dreamed. The proof of what happened is the book exchange which shows that it is real.
            Where the professor has partial notes which confirm the receipt of a White Book by a child, in a place described very vaguely.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The white book of our timeline also contained the details of everything we learned in Area Zero during the base game that we apparently told to Briar - including the fact that the real professor was murdered. This information apparently wasn't in the copy of the book our own professor got, or they wouldn't have gone ahead with the time machine thing. I suspect we 'broke the loop' for another universe because in all the other universes, our player never moved to Paldea, which would explain the change. Consider:
              >In an alternate universe where we don't move to Paldea, Koraidon/Miraidon dies on the beach where we met it; Nemona has no need to take her time on the route to help us catch Pokemon because we aren't there, so she misses the encounter completely.
              >Without the Raidon and with the Scarelt/Violet book in Arven's possession, the AI never contacts anyone else to convince them to come to Area Zero - they have no idea where the key card for the time machine is because Arven isn't travelling with us. As a result, nobody goes to Area Zero to shut down the time machine, and nobody ever learns that the professor is dead
              >In Kitakami, Kieran most likely catches Ogerpon and still goes on to become the next Blueberry Champion.
              >Briar takes Kieran to Area Zero to investigate Terapagos; no idea what happens with the time machine (that can't be turned off) or the AI, but nether of them discover that the real professor is dead and Kieran manages to catch Terapagos for himself
              >Briar writes her white book with all the information he had on Heath plus what she saw with Terapagos in Area Zero, but doesn't include the part about the professor dying because she never learned that
              >Kieran returns to Kitakami and ends up temporarily crossing over into our universe, where he meets our professor. He gives them his universe's version of Briar's book, does not take the professor's personal Scarlet/Violet book, and doesn't meet the Raidon. (cont.)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Since the professor never met the Raidon and now has Briar's research, they realize they can now build a time machine to make their dream a reality. Since this version of the book also doesn't mention their death or the danger the machine will cause to Paldes's ecosystem, they are oblivious to what's about to happen
                >The events of our timeline occur, but our presence changes the events significantly, thus leading to the epilogue where we go and meet another universe's professor and give them a copy of Briar's book that possessed the critical information needed to make the professor change their mind. They also get to meet a living Raidon, this fulfilling their childhood dream and rendering the time machine obsolete in the first place. Lastly, they give us their personalized Scarlet/Violet book, making it impossible for events on their timeline to unfold the way they did on ours.
                So yeah, given that this game seems to be about the multiverse rather than time travel, it seems our character was probably the linchpin for how events turned out, and our involvement changes the content of Briar's research. The only thing that makes sense is that whoever handed the professor the book on our timeline came from a universe where we never moved to Paldea.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Some other stuff that would be different in the hypothetical universe that the book our professor received came from:
                >All of Team Star gets expelled for truancy except Penny, who never tells anyone the truth
                >Without out help, Arven can't beat the Titans and gather Herbs Mystical, so his dog dies
                >The threat of the Paradox Pokemon is never made public, so at some point in the future they escape Area Zero
                >The history professor probably releases the Four Treasures, but without us to beat them they go on a rampage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can you explain to me why you decided to create fanfiction? From the beginning, I have only spoken about facts.

                None of the things you mention are explained or implied in the game. I would even go so far as to say that absolutely nothing leads to that conclusion.

                You've decided it has to be different to break the loop, so you claim that the White Book the player gave him is different from the one mentioned in the notes. And even though there is no proof and nothing to imply it, you just want it to be that way, so you make it up...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Can you explain to me why you decided to create fanfiction?
                Briar tells us exactly what's in her book: it's a republishing of Heath's uncensored journal plus the culmination of her own research into Area Zero as well as what she learned about Terapagos. She also asks us to give her a firsthand account of everything we learned in Area Zero.
                This last bit is relevant because the version of Briar's book that our Professor received clearly didn't include the interview with us in it - otherwise they would have learned that their research was destined to drive them insane, that they were going to be killed, their son would be orphaned, and their machine was going to put all of Paldea in danger. There is absolutely no way they would have gone ahead with their plans if they read our contribution to the book, so the logical conclusion is that the book they received from 'thr child' never had that vital information to begin with, which would only be possible if that version of Briar's book came from a universe where we weren't involved in the events that led up to the book's creation. We're told that we recently moved to Paldea at the start of the game, so logically for us to have not been involved, the book could only have come from a universe where we never moved to Paldea in the first place and never met our Raidon, which would change the entire story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What you are saying is quite inaccurate. Here are screenshots of everything I found about it.

                1- The only information about Zone Zero that was communicated to Briar by another character comes from Greeta. However Greeta obscured some data about events with the time machine. Briar is unaware of the all events, which is why she says "mysterious room" to refer to the room with the time machine when we are in front of the laboratory.

                2- To my knowledge, the player never explained the story of the time machine and the AI. Do you have a screenshot that proves otherwise?

                3- Greeta carried out checks before publication, and had to agree to be sure that certain things which should not be revealed to the general public will not be revealed (so even if she knew, she cannot publish everything) .

                4- His explanation mentions nothing other than the contents of the expedition when she mentions the publication of her book to the player. This is further reaffirmed by the in-game item description.

                It goes without saying that you have a vivid imagination. But with all due respect, what you are saying is not representative of the content of the game.
                Do you have a screenshot that states that the White Book to be given to the player is different from the one mentioned in the professor's notes which are located in depth? Please provide in-game evidence, it's important.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't know what "details" she skipped.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Please purchase the DLC and play the game.
                It's easy to understand what Greeta didn't say. Before saying she's obscured some details, she mentions that not many people know about the time machine, since that's what she's referring to.

                This fact is confirmed a little later during our expedition with the screen that I am attaching.

                She clearly refers to the time machine room as "a mysterious room whose PURPOSE IS ENTIRELY UNKNOWN". Then she expresses that she wants to go deeper than that.

                For your part, you have proven nothing of everything I asked you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Since the professor never met the Raidon and now has Briar's research, they realize they can now build a time machine to make their dream a reality. Since this version of the book also doesn't mention their death or the danger the machine will cause to Paldes's ecosystem, they are oblivious to what's about to happen
                >The events of our timeline occur, but our presence changes the events significantly, thus leading to the epilogue where we go and meet another universe's professor and give them a copy of Briar's book that possessed the critical information needed to make the professor change their mind. They also get to meet a living Raidon, this fulfilling their childhood dream and rendering the time machine obsolete in the first place. Lastly, they give us their personalized Scarlet/Violet book, making it impossible for events on their timeline to unfold the way they did on ours.
                So yeah, given that this game seems to be about the multiverse rather than time travel, it seems our character was probably the linchpin for how events turned out, and our involvement changes the content of Briar's research. The only thing that makes sense is that whoever handed the professor the book on our timeline came from a universe where we never moved to Paldea.

                Some other stuff that would be different in the hypothetical universe that the book our professor received came from:
                >All of Team Star gets expelled for truancy except Penny, who never tells anyone the truth
                >Without out help, Arven can't beat the Titans and gather Herbs Mystical, so his dog dies
                >The threat of the Paradox Pokemon is never made public, so at some point in the future they escape Area Zero
                >The history professor probably releases the Four Treasures, but without us to beat them they go on a rampage

                Not to burst your bubble but an alternate timeline is still time travel and not another universe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry to burst your bubble but you're a newbie that hasn't paid attention to what the time travel discourse was over the past year, where it was under the assumption it was a single timeline with a bootstrap paradox involved with everything trying to figure out what happened with heath
                and the alternate parallel universe theorists never brought up it's because of time travel and compared it to UBs

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sorry to burst your bubble but [headcanon]

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, he's right. Everyone who argued for time travel said it was a bootstrap paradox, almost no one brought up parallel universes. I say almost because I actually did but no one fricking cared.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would like to remind you that the primary objective of the "time travel vs imagination" debate is to define the origin of the Paradox Pokemon. And not to accurately describe the events that are going to take place, because it is almost impossible to be right.

                Those who support the imagination thesis agree that:
                -The AI dialogues are wrong and the time machine is not a time machine.
                -The Paradox Pokemon were created by a power of the imagination arising from Terapagos or the energy of the crystals.
                -The term "Pokemon Paradox" means for them that these are Pokémon which are not supposed to exist, but they nevertheless exist thanks to the imagination, which would justify their paradoxical nature.

                Those who support the time travel thesis agree that:
                -The AI dialogues are real and the time machine really works.
                -Paradox Pokemon are Pokemon that come from the past or the future.
                -The term "Pokemon Paradox" refers to the temporal paradox for them. That is to say, we should not encounter a Paradox Pokemon because they are not supposed to be found naturally in this day and age.

                In this case, the theory of imagination has failed, these are not creations but ancestors and descendants of contemporary Pokemon, they come from the past or the future. This side does not accept their defeat, so they try by all means to wrongly bring the other party down with stories of parallel universes.

                You should know that we don't care if there is a bootstrap or not, it is one justification among many others that can justify why we believe in time travel. In the same way that there can be several different justifications to justify the theory of imagination.

                Time travel can lead to one or more of these things:
                -Create a time loop (spoiler alert: it exists thanks to the notes of the White Book exchange).
                -Edit events in a timeline. Which deletes a part to replace it with a new one.
                -Create a new timeline that will exist simultaneously with the other.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You were right that Heath wrote the book I guess, shame about the rest of the post where you decided to huff glue.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its really funny how they hyped terapagos so much and he's a total nothingburger so that the anime could reveal shit about him, but the anime is so bad and decompressed that even after the DLC Terapagos is fricking nothing

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Back before the DLC I always thought the reason there were paradox mons in Heath's time was due to the Time machine being used by the professors testing the time machine. They were using regular pokeballs and not masterballs for trial runs, so they were not guaranteed catches of paradox mons, so some broke out of the pokeballs mid time machine transfer, they were slingshot all over time, to heaths time specifically being the tip of the top triangle downwards, the first instance of the paradox "beginning", explaining the past as the bottom triangle, future as the top triangle, and the dlcs end point in the timeline paradox loop end with the white book transfer as the tip of the bottom triangle.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Back before the DLC I always thought the reason there were paradox mons in Heath's time was due to the Time machine being used by the professors testing the time machine
      you were right

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This gen really needed an expansion. DLC 1 and 2 were rushed out the door.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What’s the point of the machine then? moron.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Terapagos makes imagined things real[citation needed]

    It's parallel universes btw.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >alternate universes
      time travel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, and parallel universes too. The lake encounter with the prof cannot be explained by time travel alone.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why not?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because the professor gave us their childhood copy of the book. It can't have been the same professor from our timeline because they still had their book.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >only one copy of every book exists in the world
              Tell me ONE reason why they wouldn’t just get another copy of the book they’ve loved their entire lives and their research fully depends on, and maybe I’ll believe you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It says it has their name in it written in clumsy handwriting, which means they wrote it in there when they were a young child. It's their personal childhood copy. They also say they hate to part something so precious to them. It clearly holds a lot of sentimental value to them and is not just ANY copy of the book.
                And the book we put in the machine is that same book as well.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >clumsy = juvenile
                Big assumption there buddy. I would t rely a giant accusation of the plot lying about time travel to weight on this weak assumption. The professor was just always scrambling when conducting their goal so their handwriting is messy. We see it on their white board. Also you still did not answer my question. Why wouldn’t they replace a book that holds so much value to them?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A fricking professor does not have clumsy handwriting, anon. They literally graduated top of the academy. It doesn't say it's "messy", it says "clumsy". It's a deliberate word choice that indicates that it was written by someone who wasn't very good at writing things yet, so a child. The same word is used when describing the dog bed that used to belong to Arven's Mabosstiff when it was still a Maschiff, so he must've been young when he wrote it.
                And why the frick would an adult write their own name into a book? That's something that kids do with things precious to them.
                >Why wouldn’t they replace a book that holds so much value to them?
                Do you not understand what "sentimental value" is? Do you think people also immediately get a new dog when their old one just died? Cmon dude.

                If it were truly the exact same copy, Arven would recognize the book immediately considering he's held onto it for all those years. But you didn't seem to catch the fact he nonchalantly shrugs it off as a copy from the school library, indicating that while it IS a book owned by the professor, it is not the same one Arven gave you which would ultimately be used to disable the Time Machine.
                You're looking for an anomaly in the incorrect place with this scene. The anomaly you're supposed to recognize is that the name "Koraidon/Miraidon" has its origins rooted in a bootstrap paradox. The professor learns Winged King/Iron Serpent is called Koraidon/Miraidon from the protagonist thanks to the Kitakami encounter, but the protagonist only learns that name initially due to the AI at the start of the game, who, again, by merit of having the professor's memories and experiences, learns that name from the Kitakami encounter.

                Why the FRICK would Arven assume that you got his parent's copy of the book when he saw with his own fricking eyes how the AI copy took the book with it? Fricking obviously he wouldn't recognize it cause he would never assume that it could possibly be the same book. Also, are you implying that the books look different ingame? Cause it doesn't, they all use the same model.
                Either way, Arven would need to be insane to be like "Oh hey it's my mom's/dad's book" when he saw it. Also he didn't even care about the book, he just found it in the lab and read the parts about the herba mystica. Why would he have memorized the exact fricking look of the book? All Violet/Scarlet Books look worn down cause they are old.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >professors can’t have bad handwriting
                moron. New twin and Darwin were both infamous for bad handwriting.
                >so a child
                Clumsy does NOT imply kids anon. This is a super moronic argument.
                >why would an adult write their name on a book
                This is normal practice. Idk what third world country you come from.
                >sentimental value
                This doesn’t mean they love some kind of magic property of a particular copy. It’s the IDEAS of the book that sparked their curiosity their whole lives. That’s why the AI says they loved the volume since childhood, not some specific copy, which wouldn’t make sense.
                >Arven wouldn’t recognize a book her carried the whole game
                This is moronic. They made sure to show he didn’t recognize it. That’s an actual implication.
                No, the books look the same, no ones saying that.
                >it’s insane to do the incredibly obvious course of action
                Why? They made a point to show how he doesn’t recognize it.
                >he didn’t care about the book that saved his closest friend’s life
                I’d say he cared pretty heavily.
                >all worn down
                Perfect, this is a way to distinguish book from book and something Arven would have recognized.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're coping so fricking hard dude. Yes anon, clumsy very much indicates that a child wrote it and you're embarrassing yourself by claiming otherwise.
                A fricking PROFESSOR does NOT have CLUMSY handwriting. Darwin or whoever the frick had BAD or MESSY handwriting but no one would describe it as CLUMSY.

                Literally use your goddamn brain for just 2 seconds. WHY would they, the translators or the writers, deliberately choose the word CLUMSY over MESSY? Do you seriously believe that there is no reason for that choice of words.
                Also the professor themselves said that they cherishes that book as a child. Why are you vehemently denying something the game shows you so very clearly? Why do you think your stupid excuses are more likely that what the game tells you?

                I'm honestly baffled. At this point I don't even know what to tell you anymore, apparently you just believe whatever you want to believe anyway and refuse to listen to all the reason and evidence that clearly disprove your weird theories.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Adults can be clumsy anon. It feels cheap to say that fact invalidates your entire post, but it’s true.
                Also, they cherished the book, yes, but that doesn’t mean they have an attachment to a specific copy. It’s the ideas that motivated them. If the cherished it, all the more so they’d rush to get another one after giving theirs away.
                You just took your assumptions as fact assumed they were somehow canon when they weren’t.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but that doesn’t mean they have an attachment to a specific copy

                >You see, this book captured my imagination when I read it as a child and has never let go.
                >Would you consider trading me that book for my copy of the Violet Book?
                He says THIS BOOK and MY COPY. It can't be any fricking clearer than that, anon. It really can't.

                Not out of the blue. He’d recognize it and say something like,
                >hey, I see you got a copy of- wait a sec, is that my dad’s?
                It’s really pretty simple. This wouldn’t be the first time he points out a contradiction.
                But no. They made sure he sees your book and assumes that it’s ANOTHER copy.

                Why would he think that, though? He knows it's impossible that it's his parent's. He'd rather say something like "Haha this book is just as worn down as my mom's/dad's, isn't it weird?" He know it's impossible for that book to exist anymore.

                >Why on earth would Arven assume an impossible scenario after he quite literally questions an impossible scenario earlier in the game when he directly points out and ponders how Heath saw Paradox Pokemon in Area Zero when they were only brought to Area Zero due to the professor's time machine?
                Yes, he does shrug it off, but that's because he didn't want to get caught up in endless logistics and speculating about details he knows nothing about. He just found closure with the fate of his parent, he wasn't interested in pursuing another thread that's only loosely related to it.

                Yes, exactly. That's also why he wouldn't recognize that exact copy anyway. He never cared about the book. He only cares about the information on the herba mystica to cure his Pokémon.
                He even says in the postgame event that he never read the rest of the book. He never used it much. No way he can just discern one worn down copy (his parent's) from another worn down copy (the one in the library). He never gave enough of a shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > He says THIS BOOK and MY COPY
                Notice how he says “book” when referring to what enticed him, not “copy”. You’re disproving yourself
                >he knows it’s impossible
                That would t stop him from noticing and recognizing it
                >he didn’t care about the book that saved his closest friend’s life
                I’d say he cared pretty heavily. He would very easily recognize it, even if it wouldn’t make sense to him at first.

                The thing with Koraidon's/Miraidon's name is literally another proof that it's a seperate timeline though
                >Our time machine research has yielded a triumph—a Pokémon from the ancient past! I've named it Koraidon. I was expecting one new life to treasure, but what fortune to be blessed with this gift as well!
                This very clearly shows that the Raidon was both retrieved from the machine AND named before Arven was even born, or at least around the same time he was born

                But the professor at the lake says this
                >I am researching methods to catch Pokémon that live in different timelines, so I might transport them to the present day in my own timeline. It sounds fantastical, no doubt, but I am drafting plans for a machine that may achieve it. [...] But progress has been slow and beset by failures.
                And then they also mention that they have a son who is currently alone at home, so even though Arven has been born and probably been alive for a while (considering they left him alone at home, so he can't be a little toddler at that point) they still never had any success in making the machine work, which is very clearly not what happened in "our timeline". By that time, they already had the Raidon and named it

                It's very clear proof that it's an alternate timeline where things didn't happen the same way they happened in our timeline

                >before Arven was even born
                >probably has been alive for a while
                Two massive assumptions. It still works when you imagine Arven being young and then becoming successful shortly after returning from Crystal Pool. Given they have new vital info from Briar’s book, this is actually implied.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Notice how he says “book” when referring to what enticed him, not “copy”. You’re disproving yourself
                You're being pedantic. It's the same book. He's referring to the same object. The choice of words is not relevant in this case.
                >That would t stop him from noticing and recognizing it
                Yes, it would. Even if he thought it looked similar, he would immediately dismiss the thought cause he knows it cannot possibly be the same book.
                >I’d say he cared pretty heavily. He would very easily recognize it, even if it wouldn’t make sense to him at first.
                No, he literally said he never even read the book outside of the herba mystica stuff. He hated everything his parent did, including their work and the book. The sole reason he even went for the book is cause he tried every remedy in existence and the herba mystica were the only thing he didn't try yet.
                He only started caring a bit more for the book after it's gone by picking up the copy in the library and reading it. He never interacted much with his parent's book.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When I say “oh I read that book when I was a kid too” you’re not referring to that specific copy
                >he would immediately dismiss seeming contradictions
                Arven actually does the opposite of this with previous instances

                Also, now that he cares about it, he cares about it.

                Lol how is that an assumption, did you even read the text??

                >I was expecting one new life to treasure
                >expecting one new life
                Do you not know to "to be expecting" means? It means that a child will either be born soon or has been born very recently
                And again, the professor said they haven't left their lab in a long time, so he couldn't have been a little toddler either
                There are no assumptions here anon

                >was expecting
                >was
                There is no contradiction unless you force one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They wouldn't say "I was expecting a child" when it's been years, cmon now dude lol
                You're just trolling aren't you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >when it’s been years
                Another assumption

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're assuming stuff too, except your assumptions go against the choice of word the game deliberately decided on to tell a story
                Stop being stubborn, accept that your headcanon was wrong, it's okay to be wrong

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well no, the words allow for a certain combination of scenarios, and you’re pushing for something that contradicts a WAAAY more particular implication in past/future Pokemon stated everywhere. Thus, we have to see it as the foundation of the canon and take the other words a realize how they still apply within that framework. And there is no contradiction. This is what a good schema does. Shitty theories like yours always overlook one component minimum.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol how is that an assumption, did you even read the text??

                >I was expecting one new life to treasure
                >expecting one new life
                Do you not know to "to be expecting" means? It means that a child will either be born soon or has been born very recently
                And again, the professor said they haven't left their lab in a long time, so he couldn't have been a little toddler either
                There are no assumptions here anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also again, please explain to me why on earth Arven would assume that it would be POSSIBLE that the MC owned his parent's book when he saw it vanishing with his own eyes. Why would he just make that insane assumption out of the blue?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not out of the blue. He’d recognize it and say something like,
                >hey, I see you got a copy of- wait a sec, is that my dad’s?
                It’s really pretty simple. This wouldn’t be the first time he points out a contradiction.
                But no. They made sure he sees your book and assumes that it’s ANOTHER copy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Why on earth would Arven assume an impossible scenario after he quite literally questions an impossible scenario earlier in the game when he directly points out and ponders how Heath saw Paradox Pokemon in Area Zero when they were only brought to Area Zero due to the professor's time machine?
                Yes, he does shrug it off, but that's because he didn't want to get caught up in endless logistics and speculating about details he knows nothing about. He just found closure with the fate of his parent, he wasn't interested in pursuing another thread that's only loosely related to it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If it were truly the exact same copy, Arven would recognize the book immediately considering he's held onto it for all those years. But you didn't seem to catch the fact he nonchalantly shrugs it off as a copy from the school library, indicating that while it IS a book owned by the professor, it is not the same one Arven gave you which would ultimately be used to disable the Time Machine.
                You're looking for an anomaly in the incorrect place with this scene. The anomaly you're supposed to recognize is that the name "Koraidon/Miraidon" has its origins rooted in a bootstrap paradox. The professor learns Winged King/Iron Serpent is called Koraidon/Miraidon from the protagonist thanks to the Kitakami encounter, but the protagonist only learns that name initially due to the AI at the start of the game, who, again, by merit of having the professor's memories and experiences, learns that name from the Kitakami encounter.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The thing with Koraidon's/Miraidon's name is literally another proof that it's a seperate timeline though
                >Our time machine research has yielded a triumph—a Pokémon from the ancient past! I've named it Koraidon. I was expecting one new life to treasure, but what fortune to be blessed with this gift as well!
                This very clearly shows that the Raidon was both retrieved from the machine AND named before Arven was even born, or at least around the same time he was born

                But the professor at the lake says this
                >I am researching methods to catch Pokémon that live in different timelines, so I might transport them to the present day in my own timeline. It sounds fantastical, no doubt, but I am drafting plans for a machine that may achieve it. [...] But progress has been slow and beset by failures.
                And then they also mention that they have a son who is currently alone at home, so even though Arven has been born and probably been alive for a while (considering they left him alone at home, so he can't be a little toddler at that point) they still never had any success in making the machine work, which is very clearly not what happened in "our timeline". By that time, they already had the Raidon and named it

                It's very clear proof that it's an alternate timeline where things didn't happen the same way they happened in our timeline

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    god damn Pokegays are genuinely moronic.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guys I’m starting to think the story is poorly written and there is no logical and satisfying answer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a logical answer if you simply listen to what the game tells you and don't come up with deranged headcanons...

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't been here in months and imaginationgay is STILL trying to convince people that it's imagination? Jesus fricking christ man.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he can't handle being wrong although sometimes the new cope is "actually it's not time travel because it's travel through time across alternate timelines which means it's multiverses and not time travel"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's both multiverses and timetravel

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh I know his antics very well
        I'm the original "time schizo" that turned him into this by calling out every dumb piece of headcanon he had

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many years will it be before Game Freak touches Paldea again? I want know how much longer I'll have to endure these time travel vs imagination vs alternate timeline travel threads.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, the game has multiple instances of time travel. Imaginationgay will always deny the truth.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's imagination travel

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >imagination timeline travel
          yes

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alternate dimension travel is basically the same as imagination with a thin veneer of science. There is no meaningful narrative distinction between wishing something into existence and finding a universe where that thing you wish existed already exists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon you're overdosing on copium.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be Heath
    >be me
    >venture into area zero with my team
    >find the most fascinating shit ever
    >even Pokémon from the past/future
    >one day I find a turtle
    >realize turtle put these pokemon there from a completely different universe
    >turtle makes me a little dizzy but I write down my notes
    >blackness
    >wake up
    >go to my team
    >go back up
    >no fantastical sights to be seen
    >my team is slightly different
    >publish my book
    >get called a liar
    >team acts like there were never any past/future mons there
    >realize that that turtle put me in another universe
    >kms

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice fanfic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait, that actually makes more sense than any other explanation...

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are the raid crystals/dens popping up and why are they the only source of herba? Aren’t there supposed to be tons in Area Zero? Where are the giant titan mons in Area Zero if mons ate it all up?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I personally think it’s because, although Area Zero is the source of both, it was fully consumed there long ago, with it breaking out of the ground outside more recently.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hurr time travel
    >hurr imagination
    It's a stupid fricking storyline either way. SV was a waste of time on every level.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, it was kino. Your fault that you bought into dumb arguments on Ganker

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's shit. Just like the rest of the game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >filtered

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With the new ending in Indigo disk it doesnt matter because we never saw the culmination in the base game

    Where does the robot fricked off? Nobody nows
    Why do we never met the other Arven's parent? Who knows

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >culmination
      I don't think that word means what you think it means.

      Also Arven is supposed to be a paradox himself.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Partie 1 :
    We have it on good authority that the paradox Pokémon we encounter in our adventures are part of our timeline. This fact is confirmed by the AI when asked what a Pokémon Paradox is, the same AI that possesses the Professor's memories and knowledge. It's even a more rational version of the Professor, who has achieved some of his original goals:

    1-Understood how Tera energy works, adapting it to our technologies to create IA (the idea for the AI was also given by the player) and a time machine and control the Teracristal phenomenon in battle (probably thanks to the information in the White Book, which will enable him to understand it better, but also to have other information about Terapagos to enable a meeting and further studies).

    2-Succeeded in bringing back Paradox Pokémon, enabling behavioral and biological studies. It was here that he named Miraidon/Koraidon, most probably thanks to the encounter with the player.

    All these are elements that the lake teacher has not yet accomplished, which means that his knowledge of the subject is limited and theoretical, he has not yet obtained all the knowledge, nor carried out experiments and observations to verify it. This opens up two major possibilities:

    1- The professor from the “past” actually comes from another timeline. Which means that unlike our timeline which has Paradox Pokémon in the past and future, in his they never existed, justifying his ambition to import them into his world.

    2- The professor does indeed come from the past, except that after understanding the Teracristal phenomenon, meeting Terapagos, building, testing and using a timemachine, then experimenting with and observing Pokemon Paradox. He goes back on his initial theory and realizes that these are not Pokemon from other timelines, but beings from the future or the past, which would explain why the AI has a different discourse, because there's a before-and-after to the study that enabled him to learn the truth.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Partie 2 :
    So how do we explain the book exchange? Well, everything becomes causal, a time loop. The professor would have to meet Terapagos thanks to the White Book in order to advance his research, which in turn would lead him to find his book thanks to Terapagos' powers. After all, every time characters have encountered this Pokémon, strange things have happened (e.g. the player at the lake, or Health on his first expedition).

    It seems unthinkable to me that the professor would abandon his project for the benefit of his family for the following reasons:

    1- The player never sensibilized the professor aware. So he doesn't know what Arven went through, so he couldn't be influenced to stop permanently. He just reminds him that he has a child with a question.

    2- On the contrary, he gave him information to encourage him to continue (the White Book contains all the information to help him progress in his research which was no longer progressing, coupled with the idea of -aidon names and AI which was induced by the player).

    3- It's his job, he needs it to feed his family and live, in addition to being a dream. It is also a project that is financed by several investors, you cannot end it like this, especially with data that allows us to move forward.

    With such a context, when he returns home it is just temporary, take a little break, enjoy his child who he neglects too much due to his absences, rethink what happened, and then get back to work. I also add that the time machine does not have to have properties identical to that of Terapagos.

    Whether it's the names of legendaries and professor, their appearances, themes and inspirations which refer to the past and future. But also the sentence when Koraidon or Miraidon enter combat when their abilities are activated. Not to mention the description of their signature moves (their power). The words of AI and the existence of the time machine and other media like TCG. Everything is about past and future.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The story and the dlc's story was shit, the enf

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *end

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Filtered

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can either believe the game when it says time travel or you can contort yourself into moronic circles saying its anything else

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can either believe the game when it says different timelines and shows evidence for it or you can come up with moronic headcanons that go against what the game tells you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only one that talks about a different timeline is an earlier version of the professor who hasn't accomplished anything yet and is stuck in his research.

        When asked what a Paradox Pokemon is, the IA repeatedly states that they are Pokemon from our distant past/future and nothing else. Knowing that he had successfully built a time machine, he was able to test and use it several times. All this while having met, observed and experimented with different Paradox Pokémon. Not to mention his superior knowledge of the Teracristal phenomenon which made it all possible.

        How can you seriously believe that the words of a guy who hasn't even completed his research can be more credible than his later version who successfully completed his research?
        The hypothesis of Paradox Pokemon coming from another timeline was just ruled out by the AI, because research proved that this was not the case, otherwise he wouldn't have left out such an important element when asked what a Paradox Pokemon is.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only one that talks about a different timeline is an earlier version of the professor who hasn't accomplished anything yet and is stuck in his research.
          Yes, because it's not the same professor, as the game indicates
          The fact that they haven't accomplished anything despite Arven being old enough to stay alone at home for a long time means that they had slower progress than the professor whose AI we met. Arven was about to be born or was just born when "our" professor got the Raidon and named it as indicated in this journal entry:
          >Our time machine research has yielded a triumph—a Pokémon from the distant future/ancient past! I've named it Miraidon/Koraidon.
          >I was expecting one new life to treasure, but what fortune to be blessed with this gift as well!
          This is one of many proofs that they are from a *separate* timeline

          >When asked what a Paradox Pokemon is, the IA repeatedly states that they are Pokemon from our distant past/future and nothing else.
          That is not true
          >The time machine is a device that the original professor and I worked on together. It sends Poké Balls to a different point on the timeline to catch Pokémon there, and it can then draw them back here to the present.
          Do note how it says "the timeline" and not "our timeline". Further, it says "here to the present". This one is more ambiguous but the fact that it says "here" additionally to "to the present" could be a deliberate choice of words as well
          >When he/she was alive, Professor Turo/Sada had a great fascination with Pokémon from another age—what you might call future/ancient Pokémon. Even as we speak, the time machine continues to automatically draw future/ancient Pokémon to this time.
          The crucial word here is "MIGHT", past tense of "may", which indicate a mere possibility and not the fact
          So what the AI actually says here "the professor was fascinated with Pokémon that look like they're from the past/future", it never literally confirms them as Pokémon from OUR past/future

          cont

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you aware that even if we start from the postulate that it is the professor from another timeline, that absolutely does not solve the problem?

            We always have a professor who has not completed his research, who has not been able to carry out experiments, tests and observations. Which doesn't change the fact that he is no more credible source than the AI, which achieved and completed all of these things.

            As for what the AI is saying, this is definitely our timeline. And unlike the professor at the lake who has not yet received the book to complete his research, the AI has no reason to make mistakes.

            The first sentence expressed on this subject is: "Some of life-forms that you see now residing within Area Zero... are ancient Pokemon that lived in distant past long lost to us."
            This sentence sets the scene as soon as the protagonists ask questions about what these creatures are. It's pretty clear that Paradox Pokemon existed in our past.

            When he mentions "different point of the timeline", he is talking about our times, because he clearly specifies this at the end of the sentence "...and it can then draw them back here to the present."

            If this was another timeline, not only would he have already clarified that, but he would have mentioned bringing them back to our world/timeline, NOT the present.

            So no, the AI's proposals are not really ambiguous. If that were the case, we would have been discussing a story of alternative timelines and not the power of imagination that comes out of nowhere. The truth is just that it pisses off part of the community that in the future, Pokemon become robots and the existence of legendary beasts because people remain stuck on a theory with the incident of the towers in Johto.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only one that talks about a different timeline is an earlier version of the professor who hasn't accomplished anything yet and is stuck in his research.
          Yes, because it's not the same professor, as the game indicates
          The fact that they haven't accomplished anything despite Arven being old enough to stay alone at home for a long time means that they had slower progress than the professor whose AI we met. Arven was about to be born or was just born when "our" professor got the Raidon and named it as indicated in this journal entry:
          >Our time machine research has yielded a triumph—a Pokémon from the distant future/ancient past! I've named it Miraidon/Koraidon.
          >I was expecting one new life to treasure, but what fortune to be blessed with this gift as well!
          This is one of many proofs that they are from a *separate* timeline

          >When asked what a Paradox Pokemon is, the IA repeatedly states that they are Pokemon from our distant past/future and nothing else.
          That is not true
          >The time machine is a device that the original professor and I worked on together. It sends Poké Balls to a different point on the timeline to catch Pokémon there, and it can then draw them back here to the present.
          Do note how it says "the timeline" and not "our timeline". Further, it says "here to the present". This one is more ambiguous but the fact that it says "here" additionally to "to the present" could be a deliberate choice of words as well
          >When he/she was alive, Professor Turo/Sada had a great fascination with Pokémon from another age—what you might call future/ancient Pokémon. Even as we speak, the time machine continues to automatically draw future/ancient Pokémon to this time.
          The crucial word here is "MIGHT", past tense of "may", which indicate a mere possibility and not the fact
          So what the AI actually says here "the professor was fascinated with Pokémon that look like they're from the past/future", it never literally confirms them as Pokémon from OUR past/future

          cont

          >How can you seriously believe that the words of a guy who hasn't even completed his research can be more credible than his later version who successfully completed his research?
          As I explained, they are different people in a sense, so it's not their "later version". We don't know the full truth, it could be either that the AI fricked up explaining it or that "our" professor had different results/conclusions or simply went crazy (the fact that they started to ignore the dangers of Paradox Pokémon breaking the barrier of the crater despite the AI's objectively true warnings speaks for this)

          The problem here that confused many people (on purpose?) is that the AI's explanation is quite ambiguous about the timeline shit, which is partially caused by the localization, but also applies to Japanese, just in a different way (as far as I know)
          To summarize: English clearly indicates a singular timeline, but (as I quoted) avoids saying "OUR timeline", which could be a deliberate choice of words considering what we know now
          Japanese does not have singular/plural forms of individual words, which hides a clear indication if the machine interacts with several timelines or just one. English (and probably most other localizations, if not all) couldn't really do the same, which is why I think that they went with saying "the timeline" instead of "our timeline", just to obscure the truth a little which would then be revealed after the DLC with the appearance of the real professor.
          Note that "obscuring the truth" is a theme that appears many, many times in the whole game, so it's not just a single weird instance where they are being misleading on purpose or anything. It's definitely by design that things are confusing and unclear until additional information is provided later

          >The hypothesis of Paradox Pokemon coming from another timeline was just ruled out by the AI, because research proved that this was not the case
          Did it? I don't think there is any proof

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also I would like to go in depth about the localization to clear up some misinformation, although I do have to note that my Japanese knowledge is limited to very basic understanding of how the language and grammar is constructed because I'm a language autist

            >Japanese uses 異なる時間軸の when talking to BOTH the AI and the real professor at the lake
            >when feeding that whole word/expression into Google translate, it translates always into plural(!), even when you check alternate translations
            >when you remove 異なる (kotonaru), "different", it becomes singular. I assume that is because "different" is the word that logically indicates a plural form in Japanese

            People here like to claim that the professor's English dialog mentioning "different timelines" at the lake was a mere mistranslation, but as you see, that one seems actually closer to the original Japanese script. It's the dialog with the AI professor that deviates from what the Japanese text says. It's possible that the localization team obscured the truth on purpose to be cheeky about the reveal at the end of the DLC for greater impact, because it seems weird that they would see the word "different" and simply ignore it being there. Not an expert of course, but that would seem like a really stupid oversight/mistranslation

            And just for fun, let me show you what the German localization did
            (I do not know if German was directly translated from Japanese or just from English, but I know that the German script has some noticeably differences compared to English, so a translation from Japanese is likely)
            AI professor:
            >English: "to a different point on the timeline"
            >German: "in ein anderes Zeitalter"
            >"ein anderes" = "a different"
            >"Zeitalter" translates into "era", "age" (like in "golden age") or "period [in history]"
            >no indication for a different timeline, but, strictly speaking, also none against one

            cont

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              cont
              Real professor
              >English: "Pokémon that live in different timelines"
              >German: "Pokémon von anderen Zeitachsen"
              >lit. translation: "Pokémon from different/other time axes"

              As you see, the real professor and the AI professor use COMPLETELY different words each here, making the discrepancies between their statements even bigger than in English, where they at least consistently refer to "timeline". Very strange.

              Also just to proof that I wasn't bullshitting earlier, here's a screenshot that shows how both versions of the professor say the same thing in Japanese. Really weird that the localizations straight up decided to remove all notions of a "different" timeline with the AI professor dialog.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >/vp/ was blatantly lying about the "mistranslation" to defend their shit headcanon
              why am I not surprised

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        TIMElines

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And I also add that:
    The DLC is not intended to deal with the time machine which has already been discussed and which has different characteristics from Terapagos. The DLC does not aim to explain what a Paradox Pokémon is because it has already done that.
    No, the DLC serves to present the source of the Teracristal phenomenon, show a situation similar to that which occurred with Heath through the events of the lake, while allowing a time loop.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain this compulsive need to overcomplicate a fricking pokemon game?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ask the writers, dude.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    story?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the story is that my dick goes balls deep in the ice twink's ass

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Time Travel and Imagination gays still can't wrap their heads around it being a "Turtles all the way down" myth

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Something that actually grinds my gears about this whole Area Zero fiesta
    >Beat the AI prof and supposedly turn off the "time machine"
    >The color of the hexagonal plates does change to like red or something, indicating a change, so its probably turned off
    >Return after the cutscene
    >The plates are black again, indicating that it has returned to its initial state
    >By obtaining the Indigo Disc item and unlocking the Underdepths, you lose access to the "time machine" for some reason because the elevator will always take you to the Underdepths instead
    Why is that? Why wouldnt there be a text box asking you if you want to go into one of the 2 places the elevator could take you?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I add a second comment, because it is good to remember that:
    The timelines of a Universe =/= Parallel Universe.

    A parallel Universe has its own laws, its own space and its own time. It's a separate universe with its own origin (example: the Ultra Beast worlds), they are completely external. And a parallel Universe can also have its own timelines.
    The multiverse being infinite, there can exist parallel Universes which resemble each other like two drops of water, while being purely distinct (supposed example: the parallel Universe in Sun and Moon which we can cross, or the meeting place of Lord of the Chasms).

    As for the timelines, they all come from the same universe, the same origin, they have the same space-time, just the events can differ, which creates gaps in the chronology. This is similar to what we saw in Kalos with the Mega and non-Mega timelines. It is also funny to note that infinite energy (or the vital energy of Pokémon which allows the evolution of spaces and the life/death cycle) a priori has no direct relationship with dimensions. However, this created a new timeline in Kalos, and in ORAS, we want to send a meteor to another timeline using this energy.

    And while we're on the subject, I'm going to talk about parallel dimensions which are yet another thing.
    This can be translated as dimensions between different Universes (I am thinking in particular of Ultra-Space).
    Or additional dimensions within a Universe. I am thinking in particular of the World of Giratina to stay on the physical, or even the World of Dreams to talk about something more spiritual.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meeting place of Guzzlord*
      Sorry

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