Palworld and D.E.T.

I've been thinking about this Dead Internet Theory thing a lot. The theory that most of the internet are just bots conversing back and forth. And I think it's not just social apps, but games as well.

Using PalWorld as an example. Think about it.

> Game comes out from developers you've never heard of
> Devs made 3 games with a total of <1,000 current players at this time
> Didn't hear anything about it before it came out from anyone
> Immediately on release there's over 300,000 players
> Within 9 days of release it is second place for most players online at once ever
> Currently has more players online at this moment than GTA V, CS2, Dota 2, PUBG, and TF2 combined
> Don't hear anything about it on places like twitter, never trending except for short-lived controversy (Wouldn't people feed into it like crazy on that app if there are so many players or fans)

And this is meant to be normal? It is relatively easy to sneak bots into games, so the odds PalWorld is botting its player counts is pretty high. What are your guy's thoughts?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >DET
    >(D)ead
    >(E)???? Enternet??
    >(T)heory
    oops you made a mistake your post is now trash.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dead Ethernet Theory
      Except it's not a theory and my ethernet cable is fricking dead.
      I should probably buy a new one.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I thought that might've been the case when my internet went down when my router and modem were fine and I still had wifi on my phone.

        What I did to fix it was reset my TCP/IP through command prompt. No idea what the frick happened but I'm glad that fixed it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dead Ethernet Theory
      Except it's not a theory and my ethernet cable is fricking dead.
      I should probably buy a new one.

      Well there goes my credibility, my post is now a joke

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are we all on a lan?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish, a LAN party with you homosexuals sounds like absolute chaos.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because of this mistake, I refuse to read anything in this thread
      So what I will do instead is say that Palworld is dogshit and close the thread
      Good day

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Streamers, word of mouth, it's a good game with mass appeal. If you think otherwise you're moronic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's goyslop with a Pokemon skin on it. everyone will forget about it in a week

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correct, but it will sell like gangbusters.
        What do the devs care? They already got the money

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And the Palworld bots come in just in time

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good point, though, how are there so many threads so fast anyway?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Didn't hear anything about it before it came out from anyone
    It was top 20 most wishlisted for ages

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah it's normal. With a concept that good it was bound to blow up. Steamer's interest was piqued as soon as they heard pokemon with guns and no one hates pokemon more than pokemon fans, so naturally they want to try out any alternatives.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everyone played Pokemon as a kid.
      >Disappointed the franchise didn't "grow up with them".
      >Everyone clamoring for "Grown-up Pokemon game".
      >Here's your grown-up Pokemon game, bro.
      Makes perfect sense, if anything it's overdue.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean this boards sure talk alot about the very popular games like Fortnite, LoL and Roblox, right?
    Moron

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know what really grinds my gears? People calling websites like twitter an app.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know what really grinds my gears? That app is an apt abbreviation of application.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know what really grinds my gears? That people use program and application interchangeably.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BASED SCHIZO POST
    >D.E.T.
    shame about the minor spelling error this could have been a bump limit schizo thread not talking about any videogame if it had been done right.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll try again sometime later, revise my stuff a bit too

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    have you guys never heard of viral marketing??? that's literally what bg3 and palworld is....DET yeah not really, we aren't there yet.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Baldur's gate's developers were know as being good. The game wasn't as big of a success as Palworld and not as instant despite the series being one of the titans of gaming, the best crpg's of all time. Bg got huge due to controversies too but Palworld? It just showed up and like that guy said 600k from day 1? How many pokemon fans do you know IRL?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People are going to play video games. People are also going to get board of old video games and play new video games. So if a decenly fun $25 flavor of the month comes out in a month where literally nothing else is happening people are going to play it. Are they supposed to play the other fun video game that realeased in the past two months? Can you name a single other fun video game that released in the past two months? Also you listed multiple literal decade old games to compare it to. It also surpasses all of the current players of Pong, QBert, GTA3, and Nokia Snake combined.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Are they supposed to play the other games that came out the past few months
      IDK, they have another fun games too though, not just PalWorld.
      > listed decade old games
      Decade old games with some of the consistently highest player counts ever

      Frick you homosexual. I was following Palworld since the first trailer. I didn't touch craftopia because it looked like shit. Lo and behold they release Palworld and it's pretty good so I play and tell my friends the funny meme game from 2022 actually isn't shit. That's how it got big. Just think about it. Do you think dev's too broke for ramen could afford a bot army? Fricking christ you are dumb.

      > The devs can't even afford ramen
      > $6,000,000+ budget
      huh?

      >my giga-filtered and personalized social media bubble doesn't show me things I don't like
      >therefore all the people who like those are actually bots
      Personally, I'm a proponent the "Stupid Internet Theory", which posits that every year the new netizens get a bit dumber: back in the day we had "stop liking things I don't like" gays, now we have people like you, Q.E.D.

      Not saying people aren't actually playing, but the sheer AMOUNT of supposed players is suspicious

      I don't think it's quite as dramatic and complicated. Games from publishers or sponsors like Tencent which have no western oversight at all, very likely use bots initially to make the game look popular. We saw a very similar thing with BG3 for instance. They likely have 100-200k steam accounts that are used to give the game an initial kickstart in popularity, then the rest of the playercount will be the zoomer sheep who see something popular and immediately feel like they are missing out if they don't jump onto the hype train themselves. For Palworld, I really doubt that more than 10-20% of the current playerbase are bots, it would simply not be profitable at that point.

      Maybe not, but I think bots are definitely are in play. Plus, even if 33% of all players are bots, that's a minimum ~1,401,023 paying players at least, and the game is 30 bucks. They made their money back in spades.

      It makes sense though. It's more difficult to get people to organically purchase a game. So you just create bots to purchase your game for you. You have to give your give your bots money to purchase the game initially, but once you get the bots started up you get even more money back than you put in. Then you have record profits and become a successful studio with no real players needed.

      what exactly seems to complicated about it that you think it's unlikely? A publisher buys 100-200k steam accounts with the game for cheap. Steam accounts with only BG3 on it went for under $10 on reseller sites while it was in EA. They then use these accounts to prop up the initial concurrent player count, making the game stand out and seem like a popular success. This initial illusion of popularity will then lead to an organic growth in real popularity because people love to fomo into the new big thing. I mean, the concept behind it is a practice that is being used on Kickstarter and other crowdfunding platforms for years. People are more likely to fund a project that already seems like it is going to succeed, so if you want a successful kickstarter project, most creators will start it off by putting a decent chunk of money in themselves through third parties, relatives etc. It's the same concept, just instead of a small indie studio doing it, it's backed by a giant like Tencent. Frankly, if you don't have to answer to western laws and regulations, you'd be stupid not to make use of bots.

      Exactly my points!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2 million concurrent players is suspicious
        No it's not, you underestimate how big the gaming market is and how much Palworld stands out from the competition.
        Besides, the number comes from Steam and Steam has no incentive to fake things for some no name indie dev, hell they don't even fake stats for AAA giants like Microsoft and EA.

        So, is your entire "theory" really based on your gut feeling that 2 million is too big of a number?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > So, is your entire "theory" really based on your gut feeling that 2 million is too big of a number?
          There's a difference between a large company releasing a game hyped for years and an indie game coming out of the blue and breaching 2 million plays in 9 days of release

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >normalhomosexual so docile he can't imagine how non-corpo products without tons of ads could possibly succeed
            World of mouth, motherfricker.
            You're supposed to search by yourself for interesting games and wishlist them in advance or ask your friends for cool games, not wait for some nebulous "suggested for you" algo to spoonfeed you.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >hurr durr only big companies can have these sorts of numbers
            just like PUBG? the only other game that has had more steam players than Palworld.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >coming out of the blue
            The announcement trailer was shown at E3 2022.
            It had a trailer at TGS 2022 and 2023.
            They've been posting Pal reveal trailers every two weeks for the past two years.

            You were the only one not paying attention. I wonder how many other games you've missed?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Valheim
            amogus
            lethal company
            Terraria
            and now palworld
            All of these had hundreds of thousands of concurrent players.
            Stop pretending that 'literally-who' indie games don't go viral from time to time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >There's a difference between a large company releasing a game hyped for years and an indie game coming out of the blue and breaching 2 million plays in 9 days of release
            Game has solid second place on twitch. You click stream, you see gameplay, you buy game, simple as. All your Gamer Gate journalists are redundant here and have no power.

            P.S. This scheme only works for game that actually have good gameplay.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick you homosexual. I was following Palworld since the first trailer. I didn't touch craftopia because it looked like shit. Lo and behold they release Palworld and it's pretty good so I play and tell my friends the funny meme game from 2022 actually isn't shit. That's how it got big. Just think about it. Do you think dev's too broke for ramen could afford a bot army? Fricking christ you are dumb.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >my giga-filtered and personalized social media bubble doesn't show me things I don't like
    >therefore all the people who like those are actually bots
    Personally, I'm a proponent the "Stupid Internet Theory", which posits that every year the new netizens get a bit dumber: back in the day we had "stop liking things I don't like" gays, now we have people like you, Q.E.D.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Endless September in a nutshell
      I'm in agreement but I'd like to posit an additional theory: the dumber all culture, media and educational materials become, the more likely the world is to generate a better idiot to make everything worse

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm yet to have a single anon on this website both claim a game is "botted" and be able to explain how that would even work technically financially and feasibly.
    You guys, like conspiracy theorists, see something you don't expect and then just make something up to fill the gaps instead of even trying to understand why something is the way it is.
    You'd rather believe some global game number botting conspiracy than a game doing well that you didn't expect.
    The only dead internet theory I agree with is that there's deadshits using the internet with me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It makes sense though. It's more difficult to get people to organically purchase a game. So you just create bots to purchase your game for you. You have to give your give your bots money to purchase the game initially, but once you get the bots started up you get even more money back than you put in. Then you have record profits and become a successful studio with no real players needed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It doesn't make sense, you can't get (many) free steam keys as a developer, so to "bot" you would need to pay 30% +10% of the cost price of each key, you would then need a secret debug menu in the released version of the game that allowed you to randomly give realistic distributions of achievements over time and each game would need to be running on a machine capable of running it making realistic looking play hours
        All of this without a single leak ever.
        This is the beginning of the amount of assumptions you have to make to believe this conspiracy theory
        And then there's the question of all the money and time spent faking player numbers would you have been better off just astroterfing forums?
        too hard and not enough benefit for me to even consider this one.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what exactly seems to complicated about it that you think it's unlikely? A publisher buys 100-200k steam accounts with the game for cheap. Steam accounts with only BG3 on it went for under $10 on reseller sites while it was in EA. They then use these accounts to prop up the initial concurrent player count, making the game stand out and seem like a popular success. This initial illusion of popularity will then lead to an organic growth in real popularity because people love to fomo into the new big thing. I mean, the concept behind it is a practice that is being used on Kickstarter and other crowdfunding platforms for years. People are more likely to fund a project that already seems like it is going to succeed, so if you want a successful kickstarter project, most creators will start it off by putting a decent chunk of money in themselves through third parties, relatives etc. It's the same concept, just instead of a small indie studio doing it, it's backed by a giant like Tencent. Frankly, if you don't have to answer to western laws and regulations, you'd be stupid not to make use of bots.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        who looks at steamcharts data before buying a new game? you think the lowest of normalgays looks at fricking steamcharts to determine if a game is popular?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes. Maybe they don't look at the charts themselves, but you can't deny that a huge part of the newscycle about Palworld and BG3 has been the concurrent player count. Streamers, youtubers journos are all talking about the record breaking player numbers. Normies absolutely determine if a game is popular based on those numbers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is moronic, but there are two practical ways to "bot" games for advertisement.
      First one: a lot of mobile shitware tries to pass off standard AI bots as actual human players, both to lower queue times and tweak the difficulty as desired to sell more microtransactions.
      Second one: if there's no easy way to check the player count (such as the game being on Steam or having a server browser), just produce fake player count stats: this is mostly done to deny the game failed to meet expectations and keep the investors pleased, and is also common for Netflix and the likes.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think it's quite as dramatic and complicated. Games from publishers or sponsors like Tencent which have no western oversight at all, very likely use bots initially to make the game look popular. We saw a very similar thing with BG3 for instance. They likely have 100-200k steam accounts that are used to give the game an initial kickstart in popularity, then the rest of the playercount will be the zoomer sheep who see something popular and immediately feel like they are missing out if they don't jump onto the hype train themselves. For Palworld, I really doubt that more than 10-20% of the current playerbase are bots, it would simply not be profitable at that point.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another tendie cope thread
    Fricking sad lads

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Game comes out from developers you've never heard of
    > Devs made 3 games with a total of <1,000 current players at this time
    Most indie devs will make tons of small projects before achieving success with a breakout title. it's not unusual in the slightest.
    > Didn't hear anything about it before it came out from anyone
    It had trailers featured in multiple games shows dating back to 2021. People have been memeing up "Pokemon with guns" for years.
    > Immediately on release there's over 300,000 players
    > Within 9 days of release it is second place for most players online at once ever
    > Currently has more players online at this moment than GTA V, CS2, Dota 2, PUBG, and TF2 combined
    It's a combination of Pokemon (extremely popular with normies) and survival/crafting games like Rust (also extremely popular with normies.) The devs themselves said it was tailor-made to please as many people as possible. Plus the "pokemon with guns" angle is shocking and extremely easy to market via word-of-mouth internet virality. It's not hard to piece together why it was successful.

    Just because you live under a rock doesn't mean that everything outside your limited perspective is a conspiracy. Go outside.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, I would want to see a feraligatr with an M60, so

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry its just another tendie cope thread.

      They're so booty blasted that they're trying to deny reality

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It reminds me of the people who get extremely dumbfounded by Avatar's success, when most of the people watching it aren't terminally online autists who get hyperfixated on niche media. They're just average people who see a hyped up movie and forget about it a week later.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          except Palworld is maintaining its high player count, stay mad lmao

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Didn't hear anything about it before it came out from anyone
    Well, that's because you're a normalgay. I've had it on my wishlist for over two years, since the first trailer.
    And no, I'm not defending anything. I added it because it looked funny. Now that I know what it is exactly, I have no interest in actually playing it.

    >It is relatively easy to sneak bots into games
    And do you realize that to "sneak" 1-2 millions of bots into the game, the devs would have to buy 1-2 millions of copies? They can't just tell Valve "yo, I need a million keys, thanks". With the taxes and Steam tip, only ~30% of the cost of this moronic "operation" would go back to them.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Monster catching/raising is just cool as frick, tomagotchi came out in the 90s and had 32 pixels to work with and people are that shit up like you wouldn't believe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But you don't fricking raise any of these pals,they don't even evolve

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >maybe they are buying millions of copies and then running them on millions of PC's just to bump the player count

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ironically OP, steam is one of the few places that you actually can find real people and it isn't astroturfed to all frick.
    You know, when you aren't thumbing through chinkware, or steamcard farming shit.
    Mostly because there's like, no incentives to be fake as frick, and being both a private company and winning by default (because) Valve doesn't have an interest in socially manipulating you.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It is relatively easy to sneak bots into games, so the odds PalWorld is botting its player counts is pretty high.
    Yeah, it's so easy that none of the publishers who make AAA games that cost half a billion dollars and take half a decade, never do it
    Anon don't be moronic, if you could not your playercount every Microsoft slop game would have 20 million concurrent users on the first minute of the games launch
    >verification not required

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's the opposite. Huge Internet Theory.
    Not a single person on my steam friends list (I have about 150) has launched Baldur's Gate 3 or Starfield or a single game nominated for the Steam Awards other than Lethal Company
    Meanwhile there are 30 people playing Palworld this very second.

    I can only assume it's because those cliques don't overlap. You're either a palgay or you're not, and your friends match you.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >umm well actually, it's just the dead internet theory!
    pokegay cope is beyond embarrassing at this point

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dead Internet Theory is a meme for morons who want to confirm their own internal biases that the popular things they don't like are actually not popular and it's all fake.

    They don't want to admit that they're out of touch or wrong, so they cling to the nonsense idea that it's all fake. It's not them who's wrong, it's the entire rest of the internet.
    Whenever someone brings this theory up, you can instantly dismiss them as an out of touch homosexual with narcissism.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dead internet refers to places like reddit or twitter. The discussions there are not organic. They exist to manufacture public opinions. This theory should not be applied to video games because its readily apparent when a real person on twitch or my steam friendlist is playing the game. OP is out of touch. Half my steam friends I know irl are palchads.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really shouldn't be casual with saying twitch is organic.

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think you're severely underestimating the average person's hunger for a pokemon-like game since pokemon went to shit. It also helps that this game is literally the
    >NINTENDO
    >HIRE this man

    meme but it's actually real. Palworld just got lucky and streamers latched on and that was all she wrote.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >its all bots not true gamers like me who love this nintendo kind of quality.
    What happened to le lawsuit and ai?

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally every cope for this game would apply to any other game
    >i-its just streamers that made the game popular!
    >The playercount is botted!
    Why would Bethesda not fake the player count for Dota 2 if they could?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >was going to say valve
      >changed it to Bethesda and forgot to change the game from Dota 2 to starfield
      Welp, frick me, I'm going to bed

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean if you want to get into it, streamers legitimately are an avenue that companies use to astroturf the popularity of things.
      Not that this mutually excludes streamers from hopping on something already popular they have zero interest in.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't Game Freak bot their Little Town Hero game on Steam?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A better question is why didn't they release Pokemon on Steam if they're willing to port over LTH?

      SwSh managed to break records and is the 37th best-selling game of all time despite being locked to one console and being the worst game in the franchise. A Steam release would break records. Hell, no Pokemon on PC is half the reason Palworld is doing so well.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I could be remembering wrong but Little Town Hero was actually an independent project, Gamefreak can't just put Pokemon on steam if they want.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >newbie's first time noticing something going viral on the internet
    Every day this place gets a bit more moronic.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll never get tired of the way gays keep inventing shit about Palworld to cope with how successful it is. How did this fricking game mindbreak so many people to such insane degrees?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a little clique of schizos on Ganker. They did the same with Baldur's Gate 3 if you recall.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What is so schizophrenic about it? Do you believe it is out of Tencent's monetary means to allocate a couple of millions from their marketing budget to bots? Or do you believe Tencent have moral standards that prevent them from doing it? I really don't understand what about this theory seems so insanely unlikely to you that you refuse to even entertain the possiblity that it could be a thing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because there's no need. The games are good and popular on their own merits.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you think every single other AAA, AA, and indie studio has botting out of their monetary means?
          Do you think every single other AAA, AA, and indie studio has a moral standard that prevents them from doing it?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What the frick are you even trying to say?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's schizophrenic to think this specific studio is the only one financially and morally capable of botting.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I see, thanks. Their whole "it is bots" approach is some real qanon shit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, having been on 8ch when qanon was a thing, it's pretty annoying hearing about why goofy Tom Clancy fiction to cover for the very real issue there were federal agents trying to get people to commit acts of terrorism on a niche alternative image boards is purported as some kind of weird conspiracy theory.
                Something that I'd think even people with a spoonful of reason would be able to recognize that the qanon shaman was literally shouting at everyone to be peaceful even in the presence of dozens of federal agents trying to get people to kill a senator.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think we can expect a lot more games to follow this pattern in the future. Especially when they are from countries that don't follow any regulatory oversight.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Would you agree that if a game has 200k concurrent players on release, it is attracting more attention than if the game had 200 players on release? If you agree that there would be a huge advantage for the game with the 200k concurrent players, what makes you think a company that doesn't have to adhere to any western regulations and laws would not make use of it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because to believe that Palworld is botted is to also believe that no other Japanese company ever has either had the money or lack of morals to do the same.

                Which is more likely?
                That the game is just genuinely popular?
                Or that literally thousands of Japanese companies over the span of five decades were all unanimously moral and just?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Companies like Sega, SE or Capcom for instance can't afford the possible backlash, they have too much to lose to attempt it. Small studios don't have the funds to pull it off. Tencent has all the money and none of the potential risk for doing it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, lets believe that yes, its botting, so... Whats their endgame? Get infinite money for next updates? Chill "anti-japan propaganda" or whatever you believe? There's no gain on botting 1.8m million computers to play a game, the game will fade to obscurity being botted or no in 3 to 4 weeks because there's no major updates planned for the this year, we will be lucky if we get at least one new "gymnasium" this year.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, I don't, but they also don't have suspicious numbers like this. Plus western studios have to obey western laws and regulations. Which doesn't always mean they won't do it, but it certainly means there is at least a strong reason why they might decide against doing it.

            >Guys there's nobody playing this, it's just chink bots
            Guess half of the people I know are literal bots then

            that's not what people are saying. They very likely used 100-200k bots initially, to make the game look very popular. That then attracts the brainless zoomers who always hop onto the next fomo game. I have no doubt that the vast majority of Palworld players right now are real people and not bots. But to get to this point, they very likely used bots initially to get people's attention.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your thesis is not falsifiable but you cling to it like your ego depends on it. You 'feel' it must be true for no other reason than you just do, and no opposing suggestions are good enough. That is why people are calling you a schizophrenic, because that is exactly what schizophrenic people do. Your brain is telling you something is true without any external sense data to base it off, and it's impossible to let go of this feeling. Get help you dumb homosexual.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think we can expect a lot more games to follow this pattern in the future. Especially when they are from countries that don't follow any regulatory oversight.

              >Plus western studios have to obey western laws and regulations
              >Especially when they are from countries that don't follow any regulatory oversight.
              So you think Japan and its video companies are paragons of morality and justice who would NEVER bot, and that Pocket Pair is the first and singular exception?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, I think the first high profile game that we know of that did this was BG3 and I'm not saying Larian or Poket Pair are behind it, I'm saying it's Tencent.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we know of
                Proof? Or is that just how you feel about it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Inb4 some weird shizo colage or twitter screenshot by literal ywho

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              so they purchased the game 100-200k times at 26 dollars a pop, for a total of 2.6-5.2 million. after valve takes its 30% cut, they'd be left 1.82-3.64 million. so they took a 780k-1.56mil loss to MAYBE rope some zoomers into buying their game? and where'd they even get this 2.6-5.2 mil to buy that many copies of their game when they're (as you already mentioned) a shitty indy company that has only made 3 games that sold poorly. That amount of money is like 2-5 times the budget of palworld in its entirety. this doesn't even factor in the cost of hiring out 300,000k botted steam accounts.

              And if this is such an effective tactic where you can signal boost your game and rope people into buying it by buying your own copies, why isn't EVERYONE doing it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wait, you actually think that amount of money is unreasonable to allocate to a marketing budget? Companies pay streamers like Asmongold 100k an hour to stream their shitty games. Just how much money do you think companies spend on marketing that you think 2-5 million is an unreasonably high number?
                By the way, do you think the same thing never happens on Kickstarter either? Because I thought it was common knowledge that most big kickstarter projects start off with the creators putting in a good chunk of their own money to make the project seem popular and on the road to success. I thought this was a matter of public record and you guys call me a schizo for it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yet theres no guarentee that this investment would mean anyone buys the game, and either way, if its so easy, EVERY company with the money would be doing it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lmao, schizo. If Evergrande really saved billions by using cheap sea sand for cement, why doesn't EVERY construction company do it?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this isn't construction. its paying for a botnet. theres no building codes enforcement or OSHA agencies regulating and investigating botnets. its easy as frick to get away with compared to building some shitty building that might collapse and kill boatloads of people.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Companies putting their own money to make their project seem popular
                Black person do you ACTUALLY THINK that the fricking friday night frickin and maybe newgrounds have enough money to throw several million into the project?
                Or Toby Fox who had to deal with a fat fetish frick trying to monetize being "an official artist on undertale"
                Or the situation with the Toejam and Earl Kickstarter where they had to get bailed out by a guy at Adult Swim who liked the games

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Say what you like, the other dude has a point. He's right about the kickstarter thing for sure and you can't ignore that

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                people do what they can in relation to their available budget. If you can only spare $1000 you'd still likely put it into your kickstarter just so it doesn't sit at $0.

                I don't think you understand just how massive of a botnet 100k-200k bots is. Really, truly don't. Nobody who is in command of that many bots is going to be doing anything as rudimentary with them as pretending to play a video game.

                completely average number for any game like Lost Ark, WoW, FF14, Runescape etc.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hurr durr buying 200k copies and setting up 200k bots is nothing
                No company is going to spend millions of dollars to bump up the player count by 200k, it's such a moronic idea it hurts trying to comprehend how you would even come to this conclusion.

                seek help

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lemme put it this way, mate: a botnet of 200k bots is in the league of some of the biggest botnets ever recorded. People with that many bots aren't using them for games, they're using them to propagate viruses, flood the internet with spam and attack corporations and states. Nobody has control of that many bots except malicious state actors and sophisticated cybercrime groups. Certainly not people playing fricking MMOs - I doubt for each game you listed there are even 50k bots total across their entire populations. The biggest bot farms for each game are in the hundreds, not the hundreds of thousands. Hell, Team Fortress 2, a game which is claimed to be undergoing a bot crisis, judging by actual server-playing accounts only has a few thousand player-imposter bots in operation.

                Yet I'm supposed to believe these "developers nobody has ever heard of" have hundreds of thousands of bots, and use them just to...spoof player numbers for a video game? Come on now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bother, these motherfrickers are too tech-illiterate and insane to even try and comprehend how fricking moronic they look to anyone with even the slightest amount of actual knowledge of tech. + Judging by his writing style, i'm fairly certain this is the same fricking street-shitting Pajeet that has spammed every AW2 thread for literal fricking months with the same kind of schizophrenic rambling about them ESG Chink shill bot network israelites. Can you fricking amerimutts PLEASE re-institute mental asylums and lock these people up? Or at least stop giving them welfare money, so they hopefully die,

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would bet it's also the same schizo who was spamming BG3 threads only to reply with Tencent image and start rambling about bots and chinks.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you know the first trailers for this game got millions of views because lol Pokemon with guns? do you think those were all bots too?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think you understand just how massive of a botnet 100k-200k bots is. Really, truly don't. Nobody who is in command of that many bots is going to be doing anything as rudimentary with them as pretending to play a video game.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because its moronic and makes no sense economically?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            how the frick doesn't it make sense to you economically? Are you an idiot? You spend a couple million of your marketing budget to boost player count numbers, that in return makes your game look insanely successful and attracts millions of real players to hop in on the hype train. It's a snowball and they only need bots to kick it off the hill. Everything after that happens organically because people are stupid and always fall for hype.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This must be difficult to understand for a pokemon player but why not just invest that money and make a good game that people have fun with? Like Palworld

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Now Tencent are funding them
          The cope never ends

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just wait until Elevencent enters the playing field

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Take your meds moron

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    normalgays ruined the internet and now their israeli overlords are feeding them their AI generated slop that they so love. it isnt really that far fetched

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >reddit internet theory
    KYS

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's just third worlders. They behave exactly like bots.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Guys there's nobody playing this, it's just chink bots
    Guess half of the people I know are literal bots then

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss when this board wasn't just for /x/ rejects who think that the existence of anything that doesn't directly pander to their specific tastes is the result of a grand conspiracy and the reason the world is dying.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >its completely believable that D4 sells 10 million copies in 72 hours and that Pokemon sells 15 millions copies in the first week
    >but 2 million on the new FOTM survival game with pokemon sprinkled upside is unbelievable, IT MUST BE BOTS, THE DEAD ETHERNET THEORY!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think I invented a new joke term by making that typo lol

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Or maybe it's a good game you fricking schizo.
    You never know what's going to come out of nowhere and become popular.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The main problem with this theory is that it's not a good game

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Survival games have a big problem that enemies are just "stat-checks" for next "tech-tree-upgrade"
        >Palworld solves this by making enemies the "collect-a-thon" and putting a lot of passives with gains and loses
        The game is great, the most impressive part is that is better than Ark on what Ark was supposed to deliver.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >out of nowhere
      >it's literally a mashup of every popular franchise of the last 20 years designed specifically to be popular

      NPCs are consooming like never before

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >mashup of every popular franchise of the last 20 years designed specifically to be popular
        You say that like it's a bad thing.
        Why wouldn't you want games to copy the good ideas from other games?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >good ideas
          >soulless UE5 open world early access survival and pokemon
          I never want to hear anyone on Ganker b***h about Elden Ring ever again.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >maybe this type of game just isn't for me
            >no, it must be bad for everyone and nobody likes it
            >all the people playing it must be bots

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              For the tenth time, I fully believe that all the players playing it right now are real. They just needed the bots to rope in the morons who fomo in on the new big thing. Now that the morons were fooled out of their money, they obviously no longer need the bots.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you actually a moronic? Everyone that I know was surprised that Palworld was not a fake game and actually launched on pre-alpha, the first trailer was a bang last year when they showed for the first time, you are talking like people go for "Steam stats" and see Palworld in first and say "Wow, I must play this game" when in truth is more about every single streamer talking about the game + the surprise of the gaming community overall that the game was not a fake trailer.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > actually a moronic?
                Nice spelling mistake, loser, now you're the fool

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hahaha jokes on you, I'm going to bed now and I will NEVER HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY MISTAKE!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                noooo! you need to suffer from your mistakes!!!1!

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                or they just took one of the biggest franchises in history, stole its formula, and made a game that almost all the fans of that franchise have wanted forever but the franchise owner just never made, thus allowing them access to a massive market that no one else had the forethought to tap into

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lowest IQ board on Ganker

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nani!?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The par to pass as lowest IQ thread on Ganker is on the floor

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >> Didn't hear anything about it before it came out from anyone
    Your ignorance is not the same thing as it not being advertised.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cope+seethe+mald

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >O-oh no, all the current players are real, it was just the initial buyers that were actually bots you see
    Yeah that's a pretty schizo theory man. It's not like the game came out of nowhere exactly either, people have known about it for years.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dead internet theory is just another name for Web 2.0. People can't freely/cheaply make websites that have any sort of internet traffic profile anymore because israelitegle and other big tech search engines filter out everything except what they want to show you on any given search. I miss the early 2000's internet.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plenty of games go viral completely organically like Fall Guys and Among Us did, why would this be any different?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fall Guys and Among Us didn't get 2nd most players at once in steam history only 9 days after launch

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I appreciate a good schizopost but it’s literally just the Twitch monkey see monkey do syndrome
    the chinks who made this piece of shit probably paid off a streamer and it kept snowballing to other streamers and their viewers
    it’s an easy meme game to farm content off of

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry but reality is nowhere near as exciting

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People I don't agree with are bots

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the same fricking guy isn't it

      Top kek

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree, it's bots, gotta be

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I probably shouldn't be fueling this schizo but it would just be cheaper to bribe Steam into reporting high player counts than trying to spoof player numbers via that many bots

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"enshittification" gets popular on reddit
    >suddenly 4chinners use it
    >"dead internet theory" gets popular on reddit
    >suddenly 4chinners use it
    makes you think, huh?

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dozens of games from completely unheard of developers have become smash hits in short amounts of time. I know this is 2024 and you don't remember Minecraft before it's release; but Notch wasn't exactly a household name before Minecraft. Then as others have mentioned you have shit like among us and fall guys.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Right, and those were all completely fine, but they never reached the scale that Palworld did. Among Us didn't get literal millions of players within a month of launch, and especially didn't get 1,700,000 players on at one time within a week.
      Sudden popularity is understandable, but this is unlike anything we're ever seen before.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PUBG reached three million concurrent players on Steam a month after its full release, and is now the fifth best-selling video game of all time. From a studio nobody knew beforehand.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sometimes unprecedented shit just happens; especially in a game that targets a market that was frankly just sitting on the table. Pokemon has been utterly embarrassing for Nintendo recently. Palworld taps into that market with a 30 dollar price tag while being in a genre with wide appeal (survival crafting)

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aah so now is botting easy to sneak in and pretty high but when ive been telling you buttholes the same about bearsex gate 3 you Black folk told me its impossible yada yada
    i even provided proof to how easy it is to run trick steam into running the game but nope, bg3 was absolutely organic despite being archaic and appealing to absolutely no one but some moronic basement dwellers
    i fricking hate every single one of you

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      all the normies at my job played it. you just live in a bubble and can't fathom the world is different to how you want it to be

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anecdote
        im with op on this case, either its bots or bots pretending to be people, for all i know you are one of the circuit Black folk trying to shill me your slop

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you're totally frickin mind broken dude. dunno what else to say.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            beep boob juden bot, see you in a few weeks when you try to shill me some random no name indie title or a dead series that is well recieved """organically""" just because...its good okay???11 Dont ask questions!!!
            im on to you

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              frick you Black person ai bot, stop posting on this site already.

              01100110 01100001 01100111 01100111 01101111 01110100

              Palworld has thoroughly mind broken tendies and pokecucks to the point that they've created another version of reality.

              Incredibly based

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>>/vp/

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    frick you Black person ai bot, stop posting on this site already.

    01100110 01100001 01100111 01100111 01101111 01110100

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Palgays are really the new pokecultists, holy shit

    You can admit a game is garbage and still have fun with it. That's the entire appeal of palworld.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >MOOOM THEY'RE USING BOOOOTS!!!!
      >omg why can't you just admit the game is shit???
      You can start by not deluding yourself with your own lies, a game got popular it's not the first time it has happened and won't be the last but you will seethe every time regardless.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this absolute seething response
        Yup. You're literally just a new version of the pokecultists.
        I'll bet you actually think other people think this game is le novel and groundbreaking.
        99% of all social media covering palworld is just about how le wacky and crazy it is to see pocket monsters with guns.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can admit a game isn't garbage just because it's popular too. The only reason this game is as popular as it is is because it is a well-made product.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All you need is a few streamers and a good timing for your game's release.

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