What the others said. Shieldbearers are a tarpit you're supposed to split and surround a deathpile of sorcerers/marksmen around.
It's still absolute trash as a strategy as just like in Might and Magic: General magic really makes a mockery of nearly every fight and any fight you can't win in two turns on the higher crusade difficulties is going to be a loss anyway
>Regill >romance
He literally doesn't have time on nonsense such as hormones induced attraction when he has a crusade to win, demons to slay, and deserters to hang.
And yet their games are a significant part of the crpg market
you know, the proved over 95% male market (99% if you remove the cosplayer whores from conventions)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>99% if you remove the cosplayer whores
As a former cosplayer who married a cosplayer, get bent and go fuck yourself you talentless hack.
Literal do-nothings always love to be jealous of people who actually do and make things.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they're just jealous
Literal do-nothings always pretend people are jealous of them instead of laughing at how pathetic they are
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Try to be just a bit less pathetic, anon. Just because you have a cosplayer wife doesn't mean that you've to seethe when someone argued that out of the small amount of women at CRPG conventions are cosplayers not interested int he actual games much.
Most cosplayers are trash anyhow and look nothing like the actual characters.
Cosplaying is all about begging for attention, approval, and recognition... or the people engaging in it are straight up mindbroken individuals who love an entertainment media so much they want to live out their fantasy of being their favourite fictional character, which is fine when you're <12 years old.
Very few cosplayers truly turn it into art and don't do it just for the attention.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
tits or gtfo whore
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Dressing up like characters someone else created >Doing something
kys
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
we talk about biological women here anon
no one asked about your gay escapades
He's wrong about many things, but being a writer's pet, he very rarely gets called out other than the usual >b-but that's evil! (said to the guy who doesn't care about being evil)
God, Oberstein was the best. >all of his allies seething constantly whenever oberCHAD was on screen >all of them fucking hate his plans, but his plans are so good they can't come up with an argument against them >seedy, sneaky political scumbag somehow turns out to be THE MOST LOYAL, while those that accuse him of being a schemer turn out to be less loyal than he is
What a god damn character Oberstein is.
Not really I kept him for all of my psychotic nagash Lich run and then only thing he had to say about me killing everybody and turning them into skeletons and zombies was
>demonic forces are invading our world >raise undead armies from all that fell on the fields of battle >>Good choice, the dead make excellent soldiers
Based.
Doesn't he also go on some punitive campaigns into the abyss in one of his endings?
Should he be classed as an "Evil" character? He's pragmatic to the extreme but that feels more Neutral than Evil. Is it because he hurts some peoples fee fees?
It's because he is lawful in a selfish way. He has a streak of excusing convenience with the law. There is a lot of frivolous shit he doesn't want to deal with.
The first thing he does when you meet him is executing wounded so that they won't stop the army's movements. This is pragmatic, but it's also obviously immoral and done on a hunch of what will happen. He does it because he'd rather not deal with a genuine dillema at all, and that's selfish of him.
>The first thing he does when you meet him is executing wounded so that they won't stop the army's movements.
He executes the wounded to force the soldiers to move to a more defensible location. The crusaders weren't going to leave the wounded, and were going to die because of it, so he kills them to force the situation. His hunch of them being kidnapped was a secondary thought.
It does though. He's not doing it out of selfishness like the anon said, he's doing it out of pure pragmatism. If he didn't want to deal with the soldiers, he wouldn't have spared any supplies with them at all and let them die alone. He will actively help people if he thinks it would help the crusade.
And Neutral isn't necessarily immoral. Pragmatism has its limits. Killing the entire crusade and reanimating them as undead is extremely pragmatic and extremely evil.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
And he probably wouldn't care if you turned all the crusade into angels. He doesn't care how you achieve the goal, only that he wants the goal to be achieved. That focus on only results comes across as neutral as you can. He's throwing both good and evil aside the do what he must.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
he'd probably shit himself in rage because he believes angels are sissies who don't have what it takes to make the HARD CHOICES (sacrificing half your forces to see if the Knight Commander is REALLY working in the crusade's best interests for the fifth time)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Heaven is totally making the hard choice, it's choosing to not get directly involved even though it wants to, meaning it has to endure the mortal realm suffering, because if they go all in then all of the demon lords are going to unite and the war will become world-ending.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Angel is a path he's neutral to because it's good, and only tolerates because it's lawful
The Hellknights literally spend no supplies on their fellow knights order despite them being on the same side despite having a surplus because it wasn't their problem so the other knights are severely weakened and a lot of them die. But the. It turns out that they need to band together to fight a threat so now the can have supplies.
It was an extremely shortsighted move done out of pure pettiness since resupplying after getting rid of the gargoyle threat is much easier than dying because you didn't have enough soldiers as your allies were not worth saving before you needed their help.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He gave them the excess supplies he had, which was a pitiful amount for sure, but isn't Evil. He has a unit of soldiers that he's in command of, and wants them in top fighting condition at all times. So of course he's not going to be a charity case.
A lot of you seem to think Neutral is Good- rather than actually Neutral.
Murdering your own people because they're injured and might slow you down is unequivocally immoral.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It depends how disconnected you count their actions from the murder. Mercy given so that the entire platoon dies later could be taken as a more evil act.
High IQ people see multiple steps in advance so the latter makes more sense.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Who cares? Regill doesn't it for mercy, he did it because he was ordered to
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the highest rank commanding officer gave a command because he was ordered to
wat
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, he was given orders from above, don't give the enemy what they want, so no prisoners.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well you do get to see in the abyss why that is.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He says his order would agree with him killing his own men to prevent capture, it's not only allowed but expected, he doesn't even seem to disagree that it wasn't a good thing to do, you can call it an atrocity and he doesn't say otherwise, he just explains himself
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
High IQ people see that Regill's decision to only take exactly as many supplies as he thought he needed and not giving any to the other crusaders until things became desperate would've led to him getting slaughtered to a man if the Knight Commander hadn't shown up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>saving supplies for soldiers you know are proven warriors rather than joe slow the ensign who was drafted yesterday
makes sense to me
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
good vs evil in these settings is about the methods > intentions >>>>>>>> results in that order. slaughtering the helpless to accomplish a good goal is still an evil act, but these universes are posed in a way that sometimes evil is a part of the natural order of things so it doesn't mean you strike down the person in question. if you go far back to gygax or something then its shifted so that if the helpless are of evil alignment then you're doing the right thing but that just goes to show that its based on what the setting has etched in stone.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I would rather be given a quick death than be dragged off by gargoyles to have god knows what done to me.
Yes, if you somehow dillydally too long and don't find the thieflings before the tavern defense
If you take too long you still find the one thiefling buried under the rubble and he tells you about it. You just can't recruit them for the assault anymore
Evil in PF & DnD isn't cartoon villain tier morality. Good and evil in these settings are more flexible than you would think. Regill is the best written lawful evil character I've seen in a CPRG in a long time.
order of the godclaws whole deal is law above all else. they take what they want from the 5 lawful deities practices including evil ones like asmodeus. the willingness to do whatever it takes to achieve your goals isn't a neutral mentality. Neutral characters are morally flexible but don't go to moral extremes. that is why Regill is considered evil.
He's a typical blowhard. All talk, no substance. He keeps yapping about how amazing the Hellknights are compared to the Crusaders, yet you keep having to save the Hellknights from their own stupidity. He keeps going on about the value of rules and order, yet his entire personal quest is about how he has to use lies and tricks to get shit done because his entire order is incompetent. He presents himself as some kind of bastion of discipline and martial prowess, but his build is retarded.
The only reason morons and speedreaders think he's badass is because he's a blatant writer's self insert. He's allowed to criticise your entire party at every opportunity, but nobody is ever allowed to call him out on his constant bullshit.
Okay, thanks.
Mad as FUCK that they included like 20 classes and almost all the prestige classes AND feats from like four different books but they left out fucking swashbuckler. Not sure what they were drinking when they chose to exclude them. Is it because they don't have any official archetypes? Why?
But the entire concept of Panache was a masterstroke on Paizo's part, having a resource that replenishes mid-fight and gives you chances to do shit during other people's turns is super fun, they're probably the most fun class in Pathfinder imo.
Currently doing a magus angel run but every once in a while I think about how I could be playing a swash and seethe.
>age gap
Why do people think that an age gap is actually a thing? We're talking about individuals hundreds or thousands of years old ffs.
Not only are they not human and don't suffer from the "back in my days" shtick, but the age gap becomes meaningless once you reach certain level of mental development or experience.
It's only "weird" because your biased human outlook is >humans live barely 6-8 decades on average, anything older than 3-4 decades is no longer young, so a human female of 150 years is a fucking grandma LMAO, no matter how young her physical body is
and yet, this same people will salivate over a succubus, goddess or other non-human female that might be millennia older than them and claim it's different without even realizing their own bias.
If humans didn't degrade physically and mentally over the years, barely anyone would care about age gap such as 30 years old woman with a 55 years old man because the only difference from a 30 year old man would be him being around longer, witnessing more historical events and possibly having more life experiences.
For some reason fantasy writers have no idea how to write old characters. They have no concept of age, so a 500 year old character will act exactly the same as some 15 year old teenager. It's retarded, but only hacks turn to writing fanatsy (not to mention vidya or tabletop lmao) so it's expected
For some reason fantasy writers have no idea how to write old characters. They have no concept of age, so a 500 year old character will act exactly the same as some 15 year old teenager. It's retarded, but only hacks turn to writing fanatsy (not to mention vidya or tabletop lmao) so it's expected
Galfrey may be 100 but her brain is locked in the development stage of a 19 year old. She has 100 years of experience but that's not the same as being a 100 year old human. You can give a 5 year old 500 years of experience but they will still act like a 5 year old because their brain hasn't developed.
yes. also expanded content and dark codex. Not only do they add content from tabletop that is missing, but also some quality of life features, and, if you're into that, some homebrew
depends on the mod. But all the mod content is modular and all the homebrew stuff is marked as such and can be switched off. It's fairly well balanced though and doesn't clash with "official" content
most of the things in ec is also from the tabletop like drake warden and dread knight. also Codex does add some OP feats and such but the improved hunter bond, greater enduring spell working with sword of heaven and swift hunter bond makes it worth it
>making character within the rules is exactly the same as inventing new rules to fit your cringe anime OS
retard
stop wasting oxygen and have a nice day already
>he also has the last say in every conversation,
no >is also right in most occasions
lol? >and is basically has the same writer as Regill iirc
no
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>fucking Daeran
portrayed as a hedonistic gay and rightfully called out every single time by the party. >always have the last say
a narcissistic gay would want to have the last snide remark, something you should be able to empathize with >right in most occasions
lol
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he is right about the crusaders tho, those pious preachers are no better than the demons. >and is basically has the same writer as Regill iirc
no
yes he has. also it's a she. >Source
idk i got it from the various threads last time about how RT inquisitor guy and SOB was being written by the same writer as Reg and Daeran.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he is right about the crusaders tho, those pious preachers are no better than the demons.
is that why he's living in a crusadre protected city and goes into depression once he's in the abyss?
>fucking Daeran
portrayed as a hedonistic gay and rightfully called out every single time by the party. >always have the last say
a narcissistic gay would want to have the last snide remark, something you should be able to empathize with >right in most occasions
lol
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>the least retarded war advisor >the one who fits the entire war/ crusade theme the most >calls out bitch made crusaders every moment he gets to >loved by his subordinates
how does he do it?
>"And yet, it seems that my 'Pointless cause' produces results, while yours seemingly does not." >"Now, While I'd love to stand idly by and hear whatever reason you come up with to explain how following some idiotic ideology regarding cosmic alignment and doing nothing is the best option, I simply do not have the time. I have a crusade to win."
>Battle of the writer's pets that always have the last word
Oh boy that's great
But I give it to Kreia because she's just some gay's self insert into an already existing universe that isn't even video games
>"I will not partake in the Pretzels. My duty, as a Paralictor of the Order of the Godclaw forbids me from accepting such a snack. This interaction will be going in my report."
Anons, let's drop this thread and move to the other one.
Regill may be based, but it won't be based when jannies stop sleeping for once.
I'd also prefer to stay here, but they've more replies, so they will definitely not move here.
Its basically a normal monk, instead of punching, you get to use weapons, get a free pet you can use as a mount, and your extra attacks from flurry of blows works with your weapons. Because of how mounts work, your mount is basically invincible, has to be killed before you can be hit by most things and lets you go all offense, which you have a silly amount of with all the free attacks and full BAB.
Like legit, you can one shot most boss enemies just on the charge, and if anything survives, you will rip entire enemy armies to shreds on every difficulty. If you swap to legend later you can do even more memes but it makes an excellent Lawful Aeon.
I dont remember for certain, but I believe if you charge while on your mount its treated as a full round attack for your character, because your mount does the all the movement, so pounce doesnt really benefit you.
Some questions for this game if you anons would be kind to answer
Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Catgirls?
>Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
Yes
>If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
Yes
>If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Mute
>Catgirls?
Foxgirls.
yes. mute. no.
>Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
Yes >If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
Yes >If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Mute >Catgirls?
No
>Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
Yes >If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
Yes >If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Mute >Catgirls?
No
This little moron thought his little boy scout club had any authority over my Azata commander and dared to conduct some trial, so I slaughtered him and his entire entourage.
I really, really, wish Golden Dragon came online before the legit very last dungeon. Its just so meaningless of a path to build toward. Any golden dragon is just 95% angel/azata/aeon/whatever, 5% GD.
If someone isn't chaotic good like me, they might as well be chaotic evil, so I will slaughter them like the filthy animals they are.
Simple as.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no it's not, it's one of the codes of a paladin anon, you know, the Lawful good class all about being goody two shoes guy >I will redeem the ignorant with my words and my actions. If they will not turn toward the light, I will redeem them by the sword. >I will not abide evil, and will combat it with steel when words are not enough. I do not flinch from my faith, and do not fear embarrassment. My soul cannot be bought for all the stars in the sky.
you both are retarded and are no better than the CE and LEfags you hate so much, god i hate goodfags
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
cry about it Eviltard, being a Edgy fag gets old real quick to me, i like being a good saviour everytime
Why does sosiel exist? seelah fullfills the black character qouta, dearan fulfills the gay poof quota.
to fulfill the gay black poof quota
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
no it's not, it's one of the codes of a paladin anon, you know, the Lawful good class all about being goody two shoes guy >I will redeem the ignorant with my words and my actions. If they will not turn toward the light, I will redeem them by the sword. >I will not abide evil, and will combat it with steel when words are not enough. I do not flinch from my faith, and do not fear embarrassment. My soul cannot be bought for all the stars in the sky.
>CN tard who only thinks about himself and his morals >LNfag who only cares about some lawful code written by someone else >both of them think they are good
the joke writes itself.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
There is nothing unreasonable about refusing the Hellknight's """trial"""
Likewise, that "code" was written a neutral good goddess and it's the perfect way to treat redemption, instead of cucking out like Shelyn
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
there is nothing LN about following a paladin code you moron, if you don't follow by a set of rules and emulate them to the best of your ability your not playing Lawful or Lawful good the right way then.
no it's not, it's one of the codes of a paladin anon, you know, the Lawful good class all about being goody two shoes guy >I will redeem the ignorant with my words and my actions. If they will not turn toward the light, I will redeem them by the sword. >I will not abide evil, and will combat it with steel when words are not enough. I do not flinch from my faith, and do not fear embarrassment. My soul cannot be bought for all the stars in the sky.
based Azata chad, i do kinda hate how stupid his personal quest is, atleast Arue quest helps the crusade in a way but his quest is just there for his own personal reasons.
>Go to another country with a small fully armed army >Trick their president and take him to the middle of nowhere >Put him to trial right then and there >If he doesn't accept, he dies >If he doesn't pass your arbitrary standards, he dies
Hellcucks are something else
>arbitrary
The crusade was made to kill demons, as long as you killed demons at the hellknight camp like your entire job description told you to you have no problem.
you'd think they'd make the former succubus character have an interesting personality, but instead she's just the most blandest generic good that is possible
she exists to be a waifubait and has to pander to the widest possible audience, so of course she's gonna be a generic moeblob. If you want niche waifus you have camellia and wendog (lmao, enjoy)
>Succubus >BUT >She acts the polar opposite of how a succubus does
Very rare, so rare in fact that Grace is the only obvious examples in CRPGs I can think of
You're just edgy and consider a character that acts good boring unless he's (yes he, it has to be a man, it was a woman you could be bitching about feminism) one of those lawful good dudes that goes around killing everyone they don't like by saying that they're heretics
They could've made her good without her going >I love butterflies, puppies and most of all my friends 🙂 (even though I've never had a friend ever before now and should probably be kind of weird about it)
>I love butterflies
She associates them with Desna and has like a single banter thinking that some butterfly is the goddess watching her >puppies
She makes a joke about cats, not dogs >my friends
Makes perfect sense that a demon that obviously never had friends, not even after betraying the demons, would cheris actually having friends or at the very least good enough company
>You're just edgy and consider a character that acts good boring unless he's (yes he, it has to be a man, it was a woman you could be bitching about feminism) one of those lawful good dudes that goes around killing everyone they don't like by saying that they're heretics
How did you find my dirty little secret?
Oh, and I forgot, there's also Xorges, so that makes eight moments, nine if you count Baphomet
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
oh now you're fucking with me, when i said struggle i meant shit like
her relapsing into Old Arue is the best part, i just wish there was ascene where she jumps you during camp rest. would have been kino honestly
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the one who included her sperging out at Hepzamirah, with Xorges it's the same thing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Xorges
When is this? All I remember is her thanking the Commander for helping him.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
When you save the camp after coming back from the mines Xorges kills a bunch of demons with his qlippoth powers, then Arueshalae flips out because demons and qlippoths hate each other (the gladiators and Nocticula's guards also get triggered if they're there)
all the rest is just generic regret over her memories rather than actively fighting her impulses
I will give you the schizo kneeling in front of nocticula
>schizo kneeling in front of nocticula
the only actually kino moment involving arusham
best part is that she says in the abyss camp rest that she liked working for Nocti, so she didn't kneel because of Nocti demon lord aura, she kneeled out of pure instinct and respect
No she did not, she literally it instinctively and outright says that she didn't know why she did it, and as further proof, it happens again with Baphomet, but she manages to resist that one.
Read slower.
my favourite scene in the game is when targona is about to sacrifice herself, but then your character can instead go >NO!
and all the characters does the >n-nani!?
and then you btfo the demon science guy and cures the corruption in targona
*Hits pipe* I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a golden dragon. Honestly think about it rationally. You are lacking content, interesting characters, losing good mythic abilities, and have a shitty mentor for at least the last important chapter of the game solely to be disappointed you didn't stay your original path. All that hard work you put into your character- upgrading abilities, looking forward to your path's exclusive content, jumping through flower fields, putting up with Hal's bullshit. All of it has one simple result: You traded out a cool mythic path for a lacking one. Your mythic abilities are bugged and suck, and you have no content to look forward to. As a man who went golden dragon you are literally dedicating at least 10 more hours of your life simply to slug through a game with a path the devs cucked. It is the ultimate and final cuck. Think about it logically.
FACT! deus vult larpers that run around in plate armor, upholding unjust laws and slaughtering trolls, goblins, mites, kobloids, and redeemed succubi / villainesses are chaotic evil, not lawful good
Good Hags aren't people, let alone humans. She is CN for a reason.
would be based if racism was actually her reasoning
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
she hates Mutts like Hepzi so i guess she is based for hating mixed couple.even tho she is into Angel/Azata and Legend guys
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're a retard bro, she already knew the hag was evil, because she was literally contracted to kill her, and she also tried to corrupt the grave of the priestess
There's a pretty big difference between that and trying to kill one of the many random critters you find in Kingmaker that have done nothing to you and never act aggressive
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>she already knew
but you didn't, and she wanted to stop you from finding out because...???
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because she was aware that she would try to run away or do something by casting a spell, which is exactly what she did...
Please go back to posting your cuck memes, it's actually better than trying to see you make an argument
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>hey I have a job to kill this hag, hags are generally evil and so is this one surrounded by demons >ok cool
crisis fucking averted, holy shit
instead she gives you every reason not to trust her
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Why would she have a job to kill her? Hell she's not lying at all, the hag WAS trying to kill her, that's where the animosity comes from. Thank god you're not a storyteller.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>contracted to kill her
You're a retard bro, she already knew the hag was evil, because she was literally contracted to kill her, and she also tried to corrupt the grave of the priestess
There's a pretty big difference between that and trying to kill one of the many random critters you find in Kingmaker that have done nothing to you and never act aggressive
Well yeah, she does, she's shy and insecure and ends fucking up, but she was right about having to kill the hag quickly.
no she fucking wasn't, the bell traps her and yet arue kills her anyway, fucking duplicitous cunt she is
>because...???
because hag has a lot of dirt of her that she doesn't want you to find out
very compelling evidence for a repentant demon
if she didn't have the main character aura portraits give there would be no reason to trust her
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The HAG has a job to kill Arueshalae. Arueshalae lying and telling you that she has a job to kill the Hag makes zero sense.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Arueshalae lying [...] makes zero sense.
how so, that's what happened anyway
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because why the fuck would she have a job to kill some random hag? Is she an inquisitor of Desna and the hag killed a butterfly?
She says the truth, half of it at least, the hag was trying to kill Arueshalae on the demons' orders.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>She says the truth, half of it at least
and then kills the witness wielding the other half
VERY compelling evidence for a repentant demon
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
But by the time the hag dies, Arueshalae has already admitted that she lied, and this also has nothing to do with what we're talking about retard
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
by the time the hag dies you have learned none of her story and have heard the platitudes of a succubus you just met which you now have no way of verifying >nothing to do with what we're talking about retard
why don't you tell me what you think the subject of this conversation is about
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Arueshalae wouldn't want you to be a deus vult retard larper that kills any race he doesn't like >TEEHEEEE BUT SHE KILLED THE EVIL HAG SHE ALREADY KNEW WAS EVIL! (and so do you if you actually read the fucking dialogue) GOTCHA
Her lying about her knowledge of the ivory sanctum has nothing to do with this
Last reply, the only good thing I can take out of this exchange is that it at least shows how autistic you are
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if you actually read the fucking dialogue
only arueshalae's explanation of the situation was written so for all effective purposes she covered up her past
the hag was an esoteric bitch too but we'll never know more because interrogation after capture is just oh so embarassing for arueshalae
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Well yeah, she does, she's shy and insecure and ends fucking up, but she was right about having to kill the hag quickly.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>because...???
because hag has a lot of dirt of her that she doesn't want you to find out
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
She lets the hag talk if you ask her to, what she truly was afraid of is that she would try to do something if you allowed her to
The willpower to exercise comes from doing it a couple times and realising it makes you feel good. Eating healthy is the one you really need an iron will for.
this encounter is gay as fuck
I especially like how they put they eyeball inside the gigabro's circle to make him extra obnoxious to target before he shits and cums all over you so that he can reach weapon AoO anything your backline does with his 30 dex combat reflexes because THERE IS NO FUCKING SPACE TO DO ANYTHING HOLY SHIT
Greengate was just too show Arue doesn't trust everyone because she grow up in a society where everybody tries to eat and only helps you for his personal gains, being Honest is a foreign concept to her and i forgive her for that
I would if she didn't try to kill me more than once.
Arue slips ups once and it's for a "good" cause, then stays loyal.
Wenduag betrays you several times with exclusively evil intentions in mind
I wish Wenduag's biggest evil in the game was just lying to you about something as irrelevant as doing her dirty job, at least that way I wouldn't have to put up with the intense autism those >yeah bro it makes perfect sense my LG character would totally pick her over Lann
discussions bring
if she didn't go ''hahahah i will give you an army of blood thirsty cannibal murderers'' then yes. Remember not everyone deserves mercy and redemption, some people just deserve a swift blow to their necks
>yeeted by his own mom into hell >imprisoned by asmodeus for funzies >Nocticula calls him an incel freak and refuses to fuck him >deskari bullies him >his own lich prisoner laughs at him >his ineluctable prison is quite eluctable all things considered >his weak genes produce cow like offspring
Baphomet... had a hard life.
To be fair to him, the strategy was sound, it was just Owlcat's dogshit balancing of the crusade mode that ruined it.
What's wrong with them, I find them useful for cheesing the earlier fights when you have a mage general, the cuirassers are worthless though, everything after that isn't worth considering because the map should be clear
>What's wrong with them,
most enemies can just either fly around them or just walk past them while they take like two rounds to catch up, that's Why conscripts stacks are better
Nope, they can't help themselves, and when the evil aruemorons talk back they proceed to complain about how bad they are. They want a circlejerk you see, you must cry about le hecking waifurino alongside them, otherwise you're a shitposter.
Shame you can fuck her, only become her simp on demon path. She give you the fuck looks through the game . A better ending would be something like you ascend with her together
I am stronger than her by the end of the game >if you want a submissive succubus arue might be more your thing
Arue is already a sub when you meet her.
I want to take a bratty smug demon lord and make her my cocksleeve.
Wipe that smile from her face.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>full vellexia route never
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stick to Vellexia then
Vellexia is good, but the queen is better, we can already fuck her, it just forces the player to be a simp which is not desirable since if you went demon path it was probably to destroy and dominate
she sounds more like a devil than demon
Nah, there are no rules in her city besides leaving outsiders alone, she betrays, expands her domains against other demon lords etc.
She just doesn't like having to clean up the mess other demon lords do in her city
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Stick to Vellexia then
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>full vellexia route never
It's not like she loves you or anything
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
this one paragraph is cuter than anything ever written in arue's route
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
True. The ironic thing is that Camcam and Wendog have the Hispanice to their romances that should have been Arue's.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thank god it didn't.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Head mistress in demonchad harem. Hags are best
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Wipe that smile from her face.
Make that smile wider, rather. She would be happier being cocksleeve than demon lord, guaranteed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>erm, actually this dominant character is totally secretly craving the cock
kys
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Femdomfags have enough material there's literally only majikoi that does this
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because the entire point of a hot indominable succubus mommy is pointless if she bends over the moment player character decides to make her do so
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>indominable
That only gets my testosterone going harder
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Based, maledomgarden gnomes have wenduag, galfrey, arue, and vellexia. I won't count cam because she's basically a switch. Meanwhile femdomfags get Nocticula and its a half assed 2 paragraph "romance" at the end of the game, and they'd take even that from us? Literally every female character would turn into a barefoot housewife if these morons got their way. Begone parasites, I want to be bullied!(lovingly)
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>actually >secretly
if she's not craving the cock now she well soon enough
Worldwound opens in her lands, other demon lord's have to march their armies through her domain to go through which leads her to seethe when they act like morons
because baphometfags and deskarifags are using it as an excuse to party it up in her domain
Wasnt there a whole thing too where it would force the planes of good to become more directly involved leading to all out interdimensional war and huge casualties all around? Although I thought demons were bout that life
Worldwound opens in her lands, other demon lord's have to march their armies through her domain to go through which leads her to seethe when they act like morons
She has no interest in conquest on golarion, all the worldowound is doing for her is ruining her business as deskarichuds and baphofags sperg out in her domain.
She also doesn't want to get caught in the eventual crackback that would come from heaven which is kinda what the player is about to achieve.
>She also doesn't want to get caught in the eventual crackback
This makes me think.
Assuming the powder keg would be lit and some minor skirmishes would happen.
Can a demon lord remain neutral or not engage in fighting? Would forces of good agree to not fuck up Midnight Isles if Nocticula made a promise to stay out of their way?
well yeah, most demon lords stayed out of the invasion. It was primarily Deskari fucking shit up with Baphomet tagging along for funsies, and even then you only go after Deskari at the end as an Angel.
I'll probably out myself as a retard, but...
If both forces of good and evil agreed to start a planar war less they fuck everything up, including Golarion, which is why Iomedae or other gods didn't personally fix the World Wound or destroy the demonic invasions, why is Deskari and Baphomet incursion into Golarion through the wound not considered in breach of this agreement.
Shouldn't the gods or even other demon lords intervene?
gods generally can't directly intervene on Golarion, and if Iomedae herself personally came down with all the hosts of Heaven, the demons and the devils and the evil gods would all see it as a direct act of aggression by the forces of Good. Deskari and Baphomet are very powerful, but they're not even close to the level of actual gods, so their incursion on the mortal plane isn't as big a deal.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Even if Deskari is being an asshole, you still don't want to escalate shit. There are too many dieties look for an excuse to get a shot at their rival.
It depends. If heaven manages to destroy deskari and baphomet for good, it means every other demon lord is in danger. So rallying up with them would be wise the moment shit hits the fan. If heaven realizes it can take demon lords out one by one it's over for them, it would be an uneasy alliance but a necessary one.
But the Deskari and Baphomet's incursion would escalate on its own in case the crusade would fail or the wound would expand, no?
>the crusaders win and the wound is closed
The best case scenario. Status quo is upheld. The big boys on both sides don't have to involve themselves. >the crusaders are broken, thus the demonic forces gain a massive foothold on Golarion and continue ravage everything and/or the wound expands even more
The situation got out of hand and neither side can just pretend it to be a "small" conflict.
At least I assume if the crusaders were crushed or the wound continued to expand the good gods wouldn't ignore it.
The point is that the existence of the wound and the incursion of the demonic forces being tolerated by both sides will require the gods to act unless the crusaders wins and the wound gets closed.
Even if Deskari is being an asshole, you still don't want to escalate shit. There are too many dieties look for an excuse to get a shot at their rival.
Deskari is intentionally trying to start shit because he wants to kill Iomedae. He was prophesized to kill Aroden, but since aroden died after BTFOing him and Iomedae has taken his place he is seething like crazy.
Bpahomet never actually sets foot in golarion, he has no interest in a fight with other gods, he just wants to extend his influence.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Deskari is intentionally trying to start shit because he wants to kill Iomedae. He was prophesized to kill Aroden, but since aroden died after BTFOing him and Iomedae has taken his place he is seething like crazy.
chud vibes
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
didn't Aroden only kill the Echo
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yeah, and permanently stopped his first invasion, and then ascended.
Deskari was very much pissed of.
It depends. If heaven manages to destroy deskari and baphomet for good, it means every other demon lord is in danger. So rallying up with them would be wise the moment shit hits the fan. If heaven realizes it can take demon lords out one by one it's over for them, it would be an uneasy alliance but a necessary one.
The entire Doomsday Starfall event makes no sense.
Why would the gods including all the good aligned ones willingly let the Aboleths legit bring down a meteor wiith apocalyptic proportions to Golarion?
Same with other powerful mages/spellcasters realizing it in time, considering even if they were evil it was something that would change the lives of EVERYONE
Meanwhile all the deities of evil and darkness must have rejoined at the widespread suffering and the fact the light of the sun was blocked so undead wonderland.
Fishmen thought humans got uppity and called a meteor. Thassilon got ruined, so did cyclops empire, elves went on their home planet for a while and at elast 2 gods died trying to stop it
It's how nobody will believe a garden gnome is trying to be helpful and generous with goyim , some things are just impossible to pick depending on your life decisions/upbringing/culture
I think I misunderstood what you meant by that post then. So your problem is just the handful of alignment-restricted dialog options?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Pretty sure he's complaining more about anons here who go >A Good character would never do (blank)
Why let the mouth breathers here affect your game, I don't know?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Kingmaker actually had hard alignment checks for some dialogue which was indeed retarded. They're gone in WOTR replaced with Path exclusive dialogue.
I could forgive all the cringe writing if it wasn't abundantly obvious that everyone on hippie island was slacking off while I put in all the work
Power of friendship my ass they were all sitting on whatever I did
I like him too, Ganker shitposted about that DLC for months but I knew from the trailer it would have been decent.
Actual content added to the main campaign and a cool griffon that hates oglins, what more could I need?
Kingmaker is still good. Lacks a lot of the QoL which will suck if you played WoTR first, as is often the case with sequels. No mythic path either and less classes, but the base it still the same. I prefered the atmosphere of KM over WoTR too.
Basically Aru tells you to wait a bit after killing her last victim. Thing is, you have to wait a good chunk of time it seems, or it is bugged. I did her romance a while ago and it worked fine, but this time the dialogue wouldn't pop up. And so I went to deal with the main plot, and 3 hours later I find out that missing that dialogue breaks the romance.
>Runelord of Lust >Nocticula (WoTR) >Arueshalae (WoTR) >Arazni (HoTT) >The Asian barkeep/princess (RoTR) >A literal Frost Wolf (Baba Yaga adventure path) >The Sado-masochist cleric >The Goblin-slayer elf (RoTR)
Any other CANON Paizo waifu bait characters I've missed? Note that it ONLY COUNTS if Paizo writers wrote the character a ERP bait (Elf, Barkeep) or personally waifufag the character (Nocticula).
Does Ember work as an Arcane trickster or is there some benefit to keep her as a witch?
After getting 3-4 hexes I feel like the witch class doesn't add much
Arcane Trickster won't be very good because Sneak Attack doesn't work with Bolster. If you want to multiclass, go Loremaster. If you want to go even further beyond and dip, get a level of Crossblooded.
I've done Unfair and Last Azlanti on hard
I completed both with story companions and no metagaming bullshit (IE giving everyone an animal companion and stacking critical builds/AoO)
You do have to maximize their classes and do some dips for them to be effective, but it is totally doable if you know what you are doing
I'm at work at the moment but off the top of my head:
MC: Sword Saint 20/Azata
Seelah: Paladin 20(Bulwark horse)
Cam: Spirit Shaman 20 (conjuration/summoning focus)
Wendy: Fighter 5/Rowdy 15
Woljif: Eldritch Scoundrel 10/Arcane Trickster 10
Ember: Witch 16/ Loremaster 3/ Crossblooded sorc 1
Nenio: Scroll Savant 20 (Illusion/Cold spells)
Daeran: Oracle 20 (Necromancy caster/support)
Sosiel: Cleric 20 (Get guarded hearth/animal companion and always bring him to tough fights)
Regil: HK 10/Armigger 10
Arue: Espionage Expert 20 (skill monkey build)
Greybor: Slayer 12/Mutation warrior 8
Lann: Zen monk 1/Druid 9/Loremaster 10
You do use every character even when you get rich during act 4 for infinite diamonds/scrolls, since early on people die and you have to switch your party around and there are plenty of skillchecks that you HAVE to pass
>Daeran: Oracle 20 (Necromancy caster
are theygood? The spells I mean. I was thinking of building him into nbecormancy, but the spells he gets seem underwhelming or situational at best >Regil: HK 10/Armigger 10
rare. people usually whine about how 10 hellknight is unusable on anything above normal. but that's how i run him for theme reasons too. But I haven't played above core
he was in doubting the playable character. You can attribute the uptick in cucks craving an authority figure to the lack of fatherhood in our society, also why trump got elected
What the others said.
Really why the -fuck- wouldn't Galfrey use my generals? Are you high? I get the complex politics/they're a fucking demon/skellyman/Greenpeace advocate about the main character, but I think you want to at least bring the Baroness who has 50 arcane power and can end every single battle in one spell if they're gathered in a 3x3 box. Two if not.
Just seems like leaving money on the table. Fuck leave the armies just take the generals, ez win.
>Cury assers with suHispaniciously high morale get two sequential turns at the start of every battle and just immediately wander to both corners of the enemy side to end skirmishing forever. Hellknights while better don't move quite as fast. Every other cavalry unit while good isn't built quite as much like a brick shithouse as Hellknights or queerassessors
Regill has achieved what few NPCs have: Made me feel guilty for fucking playing the game. Then I remember he's a fucking gnome and racially this is just evening the score for having me deal with Gnobhar Gnomehands, Jan, and fucking fuck off fucking Kender.
Yes.
He has no place in the party, whatever you do with him. There are better tanks, better DPS and he is even slower than those because he is a gnome ; unless you give me a mount. The camfag's right for once
His unit suggestions in military council other than Marksmen are shit.
Shield bearers are way better than they seem at first
Double that. Beside markman his suggestion is mediocre at best.
Shield bearers are perfectly fine when you realize that they exist solely as HP for your mage general.
This, you can also put them on chokepoints so enemies don't kill your doomstack
What the others said. Shieldbearers are a tarpit you're supposed to split and surround a deathpile of sorcerers/marksmen around.
It's still absolute trash as a strategy as just like in Might and Magic: General magic really makes a mockery of nearly every fight and any fight you can't win in two turns on the higher crusade difficulties is going to be a loss anyway
nope, only good gnome
>only good
ENTER
why are gnomes so based
They start withering away the moment they stop
You sure about that?
>Play as Aeon
Kick him back to his timeline lol
Both of these characters sucked.
>reddit the gnome
I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE
Do you retards just stick 'reddit' to everything?
>reddit the post
everything i don't like is reddit
Him and jubilost have great rapport. WOuld be cool to have them both in the party. And Ekun
>couldn't romance him
Shit game
Shit devs
>Regill
>romance
He literally doesn't have time on nonsense such as hormones induced attraction when he has a crusade to win, demons to slay, and deserters to hang.
>wasting budget on male romance when 99% of the audience is heterosexual and 90% of the fanart is hot girls.
Oh right, its Owlcat we are talking about, they are retarded.
CRPGs are popular with Cis women though. Having said that Fujoshit would make more sense.
fujos like yaoi-baiting twinks, not grizzly bear baras
Second Daeran would be redundant
fucking lmao
no they aren't
e-thots on twitch are not a viable measure of marketing anon
well it sure wasn't a man who made the Woljif romance mod
>Larian
They and their games sully the term CRPG with their mere existence.
And yet their games are a significant part of the crpg market
you know, the proved over 95% male market (99% if you remove the cosplayer whores from conventions)
>99% if you remove the cosplayer whores
As a former cosplayer who married a cosplayer, get bent and go fuck yourself you talentless hack.
Literal do-nothings always love to be jealous of people who actually do and make things.
>they're just jealous
Literal do-nothings always pretend people are jealous of them instead of laughing at how pathetic they are
Try to be just a bit less pathetic, anon. Just because you have a cosplayer wife doesn't mean that you've to seethe when someone argued that out of the small amount of women at CRPG conventions are cosplayers not interested int he actual games much.
Most cosplayers are trash anyhow and look nothing like the actual characters.
Cosplaying is all about begging for attention, approval, and recognition... or the people engaging in it are straight up mindbroken individuals who love an entertainment media so much they want to live out their fantasy of being their favourite fictional character, which is fine when you're <12 years old.
Very few cosplayers truly turn it into art and don't do it just for the attention.
tits or gtfo whore
>Dressing up like characters someone else created
>Doing something
kys
we talk about biological women here anon
no one asked about your gay escapades
Women don't give a shit about RPGs with barebone charater creator(face and stuff)
women dont play crpgs lol, they are more filtered than rtwp-filtered-80iqlets
Good.
Now an actual offense :
>can't just befriend Daeran, can only romance
But you can? Getting a good ending on his quest literally revolves around being friends with him
He's wrong about many things, but being a writer's pet, he very rarely gets called out other than the usual
>b-but that's evil! (said to the guy who doesn't care about being evil)
He honestly wasn't evil at all and was more trustworthy/on your side than most of the party.
The very best, crème de la crème, first-rate, the top stone
God, Oberstein was the best.
>all of his allies seething constantly whenever oberCHAD was on screen
>all of them fucking hate his plans, but his plans are so good they can't come up with an argument against them
>seedy, sneaky political scumbag somehow turns out to be THE MOST LOYAL, while those that accuse him of being a schemer turn out to be less loyal than he is
What a god damn character Oberstein is.
Not really I kept him for all of my psychotic nagash Lich run and then only thing he had to say about me killing everybody and turning them into skeletons and zombies was
>Good choice, the dead make excellent soldiers
Classic Regill
>demonic forces are invading our world
>raise undead armies from all that fell on the fields of battle
>>Good choice, the dead make excellent soldiers
Based.
Doesn't he also go on some punitive campaigns into the abyss in one of his endings?
>Regil is so based he overcomes the manlet curse with femcels like the one who drew that pic
Trickster ending makes him seethe so much he gets 100 years younger.
Should he be classed as an "Evil" character? He's pragmatic to the extreme but that feels more Neutral than Evil. Is it because he hurts some peoples fee fees?
>Is it because he hurts some peoples fee fees?
yes
It's because he is lawful in a selfish way. He has a streak of excusing convenience with the law. There is a lot of frivolous shit he doesn't want to deal with.
The first thing he does when you meet him is executing wounded so that they won't stop the army's movements. This is pragmatic, but it's also obviously immoral and done on a hunch of what will happen. He does it because he'd rather not deal with a genuine dillema at all, and that's selfish of him.
>The first thing he does when you meet him is executing wounded so that they won't stop the army's movements.
He executes the wounded to force the soldiers to move to a more defensible location. The crusaders weren't going to leave the wounded, and were going to die because of it, so he kills them to force the situation. His hunch of them being kidnapped was a secondary thought.
that doesn't really refute anything anon said
It does though. He's not doing it out of selfishness like the anon said, he's doing it out of pure pragmatism. If he didn't want to deal with the soldiers, he wouldn't have spared any supplies with them at all and let them die alone. He will actively help people if he thinks it would help the crusade.
So? Neutral exists for a reason.
And Neutral isn't necessarily immoral. Pragmatism has its limits. Killing the entire crusade and reanimating them as undead is extremely pragmatic and extremely evil.
And he probably wouldn't care if you turned all the crusade into angels. He doesn't care how you achieve the goal, only that he wants the goal to be achieved. That focus on only results comes across as neutral as you can. He's throwing both good and evil aside the do what he must.
he'd probably shit himself in rage because he believes angels are sissies who don't have what it takes to make the HARD CHOICES (sacrificing half your forces to see if the Knight Commander is REALLY working in the crusade's best interests for the fifth time)
Heaven is totally making the hard choice, it's choosing to not get directly involved even though it wants to, meaning it has to endure the mortal realm suffering, because if they go all in then all of the demon lords are going to unite and the war will become world-ending.
Angel is a path he's neutral to because it's good, and only tolerates because it's lawful
The Hellknights literally spend no supplies on their fellow knights order despite them being on the same side despite having a surplus because it wasn't their problem so the other knights are severely weakened and a lot of them die. But the. It turns out that they need to band together to fight a threat so now the can have supplies.
It was an extremely shortsighted move done out of pure pettiness since resupplying after getting rid of the gargoyle threat is much easier than dying because you didn't have enough soldiers as your allies were not worth saving before you needed their help.
He gave them the excess supplies he had, which was a pitiful amount for sure, but isn't Evil. He has a unit of soldiers that he's in command of, and wants them in top fighting condition at all times. So of course he's not going to be a charity case.
A lot of you seem to think Neutral is Good- rather than actually Neutral.
it is still obviously immoral
If murder for a good cause was immoral we wouldn't have paladins and inquisitors
Murdering your own people because they're injured and might slow you down is unequivocally immoral.
It depends how disconnected you count their actions from the murder. Mercy given so that the entire platoon dies later could be taken as a more evil act.
High IQ people see multiple steps in advance so the latter makes more sense.
Who cares? Regill doesn't it for mercy, he did it because he was ordered to
>the highest rank commanding officer gave a command because he was ordered to
wat
No, he was given orders from above, don't give the enemy what they want, so no prisoners.
Well you do get to see in the abyss why that is.
He says his order would agree with him killing his own men to prevent capture, it's not only allowed but expected, he doesn't even seem to disagree that it wasn't a good thing to do, you can call it an atrocity and he doesn't say otherwise, he just explains himself
High IQ people see that Regill's decision to only take exactly as many supplies as he thought he needed and not giving any to the other crusaders until things became desperate would've led to him getting slaughtered to a man if the Knight Commander hadn't shown up.
>saving supplies for soldiers you know are proven warriors rather than joe slow the ensign who was drafted yesterday
makes sense to me
good vs evil in these settings is about the methods > intentions >>>>>>>> results in that order. slaughtering the helpless to accomplish a good goal is still an evil act, but these universes are posed in a way that sometimes evil is a part of the natural order of things so it doesn't mean you strike down the person in question. if you go far back to gygax or something then its shifted so that if the helpless are of evil alignment then you're doing the right thing but that just goes to show that its based on what the setting has etched in stone.
I would rather be given a quick death than be dragged off by gargoyles to have god knows what done to me.
> Is it because he hurts some peoples fee fees?
Yes. Same as Daeran.
Evil alignment doesn't mean that you work for the forces of evil. Regill is 100% evil.
Is it possible not to find a secret entrance to Gray Garrisson?
Yes, if you somehow dillydally too long and don't find the thieflings before the tavern defense
Ignore
If you take too long you still find the one thiefling buried under the rubble and he tells you about it. You just can't recruit them for the assault anymore
he kept sacrificing good soldiers as shit tests for the Commander
Evil in PF & DnD isn't cartoon villain tier morality. Good and evil in these settings are more flexible than you would think. Regill is the best written lawful evil character I've seen in a CPRG in a long time.
order of the godclaws whole deal is law above all else. they take what they want from the 5 lawful deities practices including evil ones like asmodeus. the willingness to do whatever it takes to achieve your goals isn't a neutral mentality. Neutral characters are morally flexible but don't go to moral extremes. that is why Regill is considered evil.
He's a typical blowhard. All talk, no substance. He keeps yapping about how amazing the Hellknights are compared to the Crusaders, yet you keep having to save the Hellknights from their own stupidity. He keeps going on about the value of rules and order, yet his entire personal quest is about how he has to use lies and tricks to get shit done because his entire order is incompetent. He presents himself as some kind of bastion of discipline and martial prowess, but his build is retarded.
The only reason morons and speedreaders think he's badass is because he's a blatant writer's self insert. He's allowed to criticise your entire party at every opportunity, but nobody is ever allowed to call him out on his constant bullshit.
he only took one level of Hellknight, which is the exact right number of Hellknight levels, so it's not as retarded as it could've been
Is this the Pathfinder thread? I want to rant but if you only want to talk about gnomes and alignment I don't want to interrupt.
rant on, my dude
Okay, thanks.
Mad as FUCK that they included like 20 classes and almost all the prestige classes AND feats from like four different books but they left out fucking swashbuckler. Not sure what they were drinking when they chose to exclude them. Is it because they don't have any official archetypes? Why?
But the entire concept of Panache was a masterstroke on Paizo's part, having a resource that replenishes mid-fight and gives you chances to do shit during other people's turns is super fun, they're probably the most fun class in Pathfinder imo.
Currently doing a magus angel run but every once in a while I think about how I could be playing a swash and seethe.
maybe they thought swashbuckling didn't fit the theme of the game, dunno
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/501
Go on.
>the queen galfrey age gap
damn, the player character must be like a toddler in her eyes, but she still wanna fuck you, that's hella based
>age gap
Why do people think that an age gap is actually a thing? We're talking about individuals hundreds or thousands of years old ffs.
Not only are they not human and don't suffer from the "back in my days" shtick, but the age gap becomes meaningless once you reach certain level of mental development or experience.
It's only "weird" because your biased human outlook is
>humans live barely 6-8 decades on average, anything older than 3-4 decades is no longer young, so a human female of 150 years is a fucking grandma LMAO, no matter how young her physical body is
and yet, this same people will salivate over a succubus, goddess or other non-human female that might be millennia older than them and claim it's different without even realizing their own bias.
If humans didn't degrade physically and mentally over the years, barely anyone would care about age gap such as 30 years old woman with a 55 years old man because the only difference from a 30 year old man would be him being around longer, witnessing more historical events and possibly having more life experiences.
And Arueshalae is like 800 years old but look like a young teenager and acts like a anime character, what's your point?
To be fair, half of that is Desna's work.
For some reason fantasy writers have no idea how to write old characters. They have no concept of age, so a 500 year old character will act exactly the same as some 15 year old teenager. It's retarded, but only hacks turn to writing fanatsy (not to mention vidya or tabletop lmao) so it's expected
Galfrey may be 100 but her brain is locked in the development stage of a 19 year old. She has 100 years of experience but that's not the same as being a 100 year old human. You can give a 5 year old 500 years of experience but they will still act like a 5 year old because their brain hasn't developed.
Honestly, that does explain a lot about Galfrey. She's just pretending to be a grown adult.
Yes, it all makes sense when you realize she is a retarded teenager.
What kind of teenagers do you know? She looks like a woman, mid twenties at least.
>hey, bro, here's a shortcut, take it 🙂
>immediately get into a fight with two brimoraks that have +gorillion to initiative
>the trannies make another Wrath of the Trannies thread on Ganker
kek
Is the tabletop tweaks mod worth using?
Yes
Absolutely.
perhaps.
yes. also expanded content and dark codex. Not only do they add content from tabletop that is missing, but also some quality of life features, and, if you're into that, some homebrew
>tabletop tweaks
>also expanded content and dark codex
QRD? I don't remember such mods on release, so i'm interested if it's good for replaying the game
Kingmaker had some similar mods. It's a bunch of mods that fix bugs and add more shit from the tabletop rules.
how much of expanded content is homebrew
I don't want no "OC donutsteel" shit in my game
retard
Most of the things in TTT is making it work like the tabletop from what I have seen. I have not tried the Codex
that is not an answer to the question I asked
depends on the mod. But all the mod content is modular and all the homebrew stuff is marked as such and can be switched off. It's fairly well balanced though and doesn't clash with "official" content
most of the things in ec is also from the tabletop like drake warden and dread knight. also Codex does add some OP feats and such but the improved hunter bond, greater enduring spell working with sword of heaven and swift hunter bond makes it worth it
>I don't want no "OC donutsteel" shit in my game
I've got bad news for you bro...
>making character within the rules is exactly the same as inventing new rules to fit your cringe anime OS
retard
stop wasting oxygen and have a nice day already
yep. it honestly is a great overhaul for the game, also Download expanded content and darkcodex but don't forget to disable things you don't like
It's called tabletop tweaks for some reason but the biggest thing it does is fix a lot of bugs with a lot of skills/classes.
Making Loremaster need 5 feats to qualify is retarded, so no.
Writer's pet.
What companion isn't a writer's pet?
Sossiel? Selah?
All of them besides Regill and Ember.
Arisnoe is the only writers pet that I'm aware of
Considering she is one of the devs characters from their tabletop sessions
i guess all of them Except Regill, Arue, Daeran and Ember.
>Daeran
how is he a fucking writer's pet?
how is he not? he also has the last say in every conversation, is also right in most occasions and is basically has the same writer as Regill iirc.
I assume people don't consider him to be because of his stupid ending.
>he also has the last say in every conversation,
no
>is also right in most occasions
lol?
>and is basically has the same writer as Regill iirc
no
he is right about the crusaders tho, those pious preachers are no better than the demons.
>and is basically has the same writer as Regill iirc
no
yes he has. also it's a she.
>Source
idk i got it from the various threads last time about how RT inquisitor guy and SOB was being written by the same writer as Reg and Daeran.
>he is right about the crusaders tho, those pious preachers are no better than the demons.
is that why he's living in a crusadre protected city and goes into depression once he's in the abyss?
>fucking Daeran
portrayed as a hedonistic gay and rightfully called out every single time by the party.
>always have the last say
a narcissistic gay would want to have the last snide remark, something you should be able to empathize with
>right in most occasions
lol
o
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>the least retarded war advisor
>the one who fits the entire war/ crusade theme the most
>calls out bitch made crusaders every moment he gets to
>loved by his subordinates
how does he do it?
Regil
Ekun
Sten (Dragon Age)
Kreia (KOTOR)
Wrex (Mass Effect)
Is this the most based CRPG team possible?
Reg and Ekun would both leave Sten in the cage to be killed by darkspawn.
Regill would have torn Kreia apart for being a dumb bitch that creates her own problems then whines about it.
And Kreia would tear Regill apart as a bootlick whose lawtism is essentially slavery to a pointless cause
>"And yet, it seems that my 'Pointless cause' produces results, while yours seemingly does not."
>"Now, While I'd love to stand idly by and hear whatever reason you come up with to explain how following some idiotic ideology regarding cosmic alignment and doing nothing is the best option, I simply do not have the time. I have a crusade to win."
>Battle of the writer's pets that always have the last word
Oh boy that's great
But I give it to Kreia because she's just some gay's self insert into an already existing universe that isn't even video games
>"I will not partake in the Pretzels. My duty, as a Paralictor of the Order of the Godclaw forbids me from accepting such a snack. This interaction will be going in my report."
Meant for
what would be his stance on pretzels though?
>kreia
>not hk
This.
Regil would weirdly appreciate HK. He would hate his chaotic evil part but would respect his skills and efficiency
Kick Sten out and add in Canderous.
Anons, let's drop this thread and move to the other one.
Regill may be based, but it won't be based when jannies stop sleeping for once.
I'd also prefer to stay here, but they've more replies, so they will definitely not move here.
>but they've more replies, so they will definitely not move here.
good, coomers can stay there, nobody wants them here
I concur, but I fear it might bite us in the ass and both threads will get axed.
as long as the coomers get the axe i'm willing to make the sacrifice
jokes on you i browse both but anon is right we should move to one thread before Jannies axe us like they did the previous threads
Cry about it
Good, fuck Aruecucks
looks like that Second thread was useless, oh well i can always post in this one too
stay mad 🙂
>chud game by chud devs
>disgusting ugly western characters
Sending the hellknights to handle the bugs
what's a good class for aeon?
Inquisitor for flavor
you're a fucking genius anon thank you
...this isn't a coincidence right?
Aeon mind
>aeon banes stack with inquisitor banes
>the most flavorful subclass for aeon inquisitor (judge) removes bane
I enjoyed a Sohei monk. Lawful, and Sohei is fucking busted.
how so? i never Tried Sohei(or monk as main mc class) so that's why i am asking
Its basically a normal monk, instead of punching, you get to use weapons, get a free pet you can use as a mount, and your extra attacks from flurry of blows works with your weapons. Because of how mounts work, your mount is basically invincible, has to be killed before you can be hit by most things and lets you go all offense, which you have a silly amount of with all the free attacks and full BAB.
Like legit, you can one shot most boss enemies just on the charge, and if anything survives, you will rip entire enemy armies to shreds on every difficulty. If you swap to legend later you can do even more memes but it makes an excellent Lawful Aeon.
cool i remember there being a pounce-like ability for monks, does it work with your mount too?
I dont remember for certain, but I believe if you charge while on your mount its treated as a full round attack for your character, because your mount does the all the movement, so pounce doesnt really benefit you.
Monk is amazing you don't have to go sohai, you get full attacks on charge on norma monk too.
Some questions for this game if you anons would be kind to answer
Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Catgirls?
Yes.
Yes.
The latter.
Only kitsune.
But I have to ask, why do you want the custom companions to look exactly like your PC?
ty anons
>Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
Yes
>If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
Yes
>If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Mute
>Catgirls?
Foxgirls.
yes. mute. no.
>Can you make custom companions with the same customization options as your player character?
Yes
>If you can make custom companions, can you make an entire party full of them?
Yes
>If you can make custom companions, do they have any dialogue options of their own or are they pretty much mute?
Mute
>Catgirls?
No
yes
yes
no
no fox and horn girls
I haven't played yet but he looks like a gnome and manlet races are always wrong.
This little moron thought his little boy scout club had any authority over my Azata commander and dared to conduct some trial, so I slaughtered him and his entire entourage.
What that has to do with ancapfags?
>chaotic good
chaotic good retards in these threads are the same as lawful good autists - they are both chaotic evil cunts pretending to be good
There's nothing wrong with killing your enemies.
there is when enemy death is the biggest war machine evil has
take the dragonpill
I really, really, wish Golden Dragon came online before the legit very last dungeon. Its just so meaningless of a path to build toward. Any golden dragon is just 95% angel/azata/aeon/whatever, 5% GD.
if the enemy doesn't bend the knee and surrender it's not my fault that i have to redeem them by the Sword
that is an extremely Lawful evil way of thinking anon, you sure you are Lawful good?
If someone isn't chaotic good like me, they might as well be chaotic evil, so I will slaughter them like the filthy animals they are.
Simple as.
you both are retarded and are no better than the CE and LEfags you hate so much, god i hate goodfags
cry about it Eviltard, being a Edgy fag gets old real quick to me, i like being a good saviour everytime
to fulfill the gay black poof quota
>CN tard who only thinks about himself and his morals
>LNfag who only cares about some lawful code written by someone else
>both of them think they are good
the joke writes itself.
There is nothing unreasonable about refusing the Hellknight's """trial"""
Likewise, that "code" was written a neutral good goddess and it's the perfect way to treat redemption, instead of cucking out like Shelyn
there is nothing LN about following a paladin code you moron, if you don't follow by a set of rules and emulate them to the best of your ability your not playing Lawful or Lawful good the right way then.
no it's not, it's one of the codes of a paladin anon, you know, the Lawful good class all about being goody two shoes guy
>I will redeem the ignorant with my words and my actions. If they will not turn toward the light, I will redeem them by the sword.
>I will not abide evil, and will combat it with steel when words are not enough. I do not flinch from my faith, and do not fear embarrassment. My soul cannot be bought for all the stars in the sky.
based Azata chad, i do kinda hate how stupid his personal quest is, atleast Arue quest helps the crusade in a way but his quest is just there for his own personal reasons.
>enforcing the loyalty of the hellknights doesn't help the crusade
this is your brain on chaotic
>Go to another country with a small fully armed army
>Trick their president and take him to the middle of nowhere
>Put him to trial right then and there
>If he doesn't accept, he dies
>If he doesn't pass your arbitrary standards, he dies
Hellcucks are something else
This metaphor only works if the president is simultaneously a nuclear warhead
>arbitrary
The crusade was made to kill demons, as long as you killed demons at the hellknight camp like your entire job description told you to you have no problem.
>you're going to trial
>under whose authority
>ours 🙂
>but I dont acknowledge your authority hellcuck
Bravo lawtist
sounds like a comedy skit between two lawful idiots
Why does sosiel exist? seelah fullfills the black character qouta, dearan fulfills the gay poof quota.
you'd think they'd make the former succubus character have an interesting personality, but instead she's just the most blandest generic good that is possible
Did my post make you mad anon? You didn't actually have to cry about it
she exists to be a waifubait and has to pander to the widest possible audience, so of course she's gonna be a generic moeblob. If you want niche waifus you have camellia and wendog (lmao, enjoy)
she already is interesting because half the cast are just evil or neutral assholes and none of them act like a good guy honestly
>Succubus
>BUT
>She acts the polar opposite of how a succubus does
Very rare, so rare in fact that Grace is the only obvious examples in CRPGs I can think of
You're just edgy and consider a character that acts good boring unless he's (yes he, it has to be a man, it was a woman you could be bitching about feminism) one of those lawful good dudes that goes around killing everyone they don't like by saying that they're heretics
nice strawman, bro
They could've made her good without her going
>I love butterflies, puppies and most of all my friends 🙂 (even though I've never had a friend ever before now and should probably be kind of weird about it)
>I love butterflies
She associates them with Desna and has like a single banter thinking that some butterfly is the goddess watching her
>puppies
She makes a joke about cats, not dogs
>my friends
Makes perfect sense that a demon that obviously never had friends, not even after betraying the demons, would cheris actually having friends or at the very least good enough company
>You're just edgy and consider a character that acts good boring unless he's (yes he, it has to be a man, it was a woman you could be bitching about feminism) one of those lawful good dudes that goes around killing everyone they don't like by saying that they're heretics
How did you find my dirty little secret?
i like arue but i like her when she actually struggles. that scene in areelu's lab was kino and the game needed more of it.
The game already has more of it, you should try actually having the character you want more content of in your party and reading slower.
i already know about that thing with targona and hepzamirah you little gay. i want MORE.
Yeah and you also know about Nocticula, or Zanedra, or the Aasimar, or you if you play demon, right?
i haven't played demon but other then that yeah
>Aasimar
the one in chapter 4, right? she was temped to fucking kill him and daeran egged her on
Oh, and I forgot, there's also Xorges, so that makes eight moments, nine if you count Baphomet
oh now you're fucking with me, when i said struggle i meant shit like
You're the one who included her sperging out at Hepzamirah, with Xorges it's the same thing
>Xorges
When is this? All I remember is her thanking the Commander for helping him.
When you save the camp after coming back from the mines Xorges kills a bunch of demons with his qlippoth powers, then Arueshalae flips out because demons and qlippoths hate each other (the gladiators and Nocticula's guards also get triggered if they're there)
all the rest is just generic regret over her memories rather than actively fighting her impulses
I will give you the schizo kneeling in front of nocticula
>schizo kneeling in front of nocticula
the only actually kino moment involving arusham
>when she stands up to nocticula on the legend path to redeem you
k-kino...
best part is that she says in the abyss camp rest that she liked working for Nocti, so she didn't kneel because of Nocti demon lord aura, she kneeled out of pure instinct and respect
No she did not, she literally it instinctively and outright says that she didn't know why she did it, and as further proof, it happens again with Baphomet, but she manages to resist that one.
Read slower.
that's what i am saying anon, that Nocti didn't even need to make Arue kneel.unlike Baphomet
But she doesn't feel respect for Nocticula at that point, she was just instinctively intimidated by a powerful demon lord
her relapsing into Old Arue is the best part, i just wish there was ascene where she jumps you during camp rest. would have been kino honestly
Succubus Armpits too lewd!
I followed a build guide and now half of my party is mounted and dual-wielding rapiers
>following build guides
congrats, you've played yourself
my favourite scene in the game is when targona is about to sacrifice herself, but then your character can instead go
>NO!
and all the characters does the
>n-nani!?
and then you btfo the demon science guy and cures the corruption in targona
Is that angel only, or any path?
angel iirc
Angel only anon, you Btfo Mustafen by abosrbing the corruption or something idk it's been a while since i last played angel
Kino. should have transitioned into a targona romance, but alas, owlkeks are retarded
Let justice prevail!
>I'm putting an end to this whole charade.
>when he didn't buy skyrim for the seventh time
Todd would honestly be a Trickster or Legend
>todd howard - legend
>peter molyneux - trickster
>sean murray - aeon
where do the rest of the hacks stack up
Phil spencer is a Lich, he wants to catch em all and make them dead just like him
Kojima is true neutral
Neil Druckmann is neutral evil
>Josh Sawyer - Azata (you know why)
i dont actually
He drives a Fiat 500.
druckman is devil
spencer is lich or swarm
Yoko Taro - demon
Kojima - devil
Miyazaki - lich
is Todd Demon->legend or Trickster->legend?
I never got to kill mustifan, I'm surprised you let all those people burn alive as angel
he didn't. angel gets to kill mustafen anyway even if he saves the people
I saved the people at Pulura's fall and let Mutasafen flee and got this dialogue.
*Hits pipe* I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a golden dragon. Honestly think about it rationally. You are lacking content, interesting characters, losing good mythic abilities, and have a shitty mentor for at least the last important chapter of the game solely to be disappointed you didn't stay your original path. All that hard work you put into your character- upgrading abilities, looking forward to your path's exclusive content, jumping through flower fields, putting up with Hal's bullshit. All of it has one simple result: You traded out a cool mythic path for a lacking one. Your mythic abilities are bugged and suck, and you have no content to look forward to. As a man who went golden dragon you are literally dedicating at least 10 more hours of your life simply to slug through a game with a path the devs cucked. It is the ultimate and final cuck. Think about it logically.
>no Nocticula redemption romance
>no adopting Ember as our child
ALL SPELLBOOKS SHOULD MERGE WITH ANY MYTHIC SPELLBOOK FUUCKKK YOU OWLCATTT
thankfully i use merged spellbook mod so i will become a Legend 20 sorcerer/20 fighter with all the spells of an angel at my disposal
doesn't that mod only add Angel merging for Paladins
The description says there's a bunch of other classes for other spellbooks
see the whole list for your self.
https://github.com/vikigenius/SpellbookMerge
ah ha I forget most WOTR mods have stopped updating on Nexus
I'm always worried mods will break my save file if a patch comes out but thanks anyway bros.
this enables it for lore friendly classes
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/209
FACT! deus vult larpers that run around in plate armor, upholding unjust laws and slaughtering trolls, goblins, mites, kobloids, and redeemed succubi / villainesses are chaotic evil, not lawful good
don't care, my holy order allows me to dick down redeemed succ so i am fine.
Your waifu herself would be disgusted at you for killing first and asking questions later
>*proceeds to sulk when you don't kill hag first without asking questions*
Sosiel? Is that you?
The hag was casting a spell to escape and she has perception higher than the skill check the game requires for you to notice.
not relevant and easily countered
would be based if racism was actually her reasoning
she hates Mutts like Hepzi so i guess she is based for hating mixed couple.even tho she is into Angel/Azata and Legend guys
You're a retard bro, she already knew the hag was evil, because she was literally contracted to kill her, and she also tried to corrupt the grave of the priestess
There's a pretty big difference between that and trying to kill one of the many random critters you find in Kingmaker that have done nothing to you and never act aggressive
>she already knew
but you didn't, and she wanted to stop you from finding out because...???
Because she was aware that she would try to run away or do something by casting a spell, which is exactly what she did...
Please go back to posting your cuck memes, it's actually better than trying to see you make an argument
>hey I have a job to kill this hag, hags are generally evil and so is this one surrounded by demons
>ok cool
crisis fucking averted, holy shit
instead she gives you every reason not to trust her
Why would she have a job to kill her? Hell she's not lying at all, the hag WAS trying to kill her, that's where the animosity comes from. Thank god you're not a storyteller.
>contracted to kill her
There's a pretty big difference between that and trying to kill one of the many random critters you find in Kingmaker that have done nothing to you and never act aggressive
no she fucking wasn't, the bell traps her and yet arue kills her anyway, fucking duplicitous cunt she is
very compelling evidence for a repentant demon
if she didn't have the main character aura portraits give there would be no reason to trust her
The HAG has a job to kill Arueshalae. Arueshalae lying and telling you that she has a job to kill the Hag makes zero sense.
>Arueshalae lying [...] makes zero sense.
how so, that's what happened anyway
Because why the fuck would she have a job to kill some random hag? Is she an inquisitor of Desna and the hag killed a butterfly?
She says the truth, half of it at least, the hag was trying to kill Arueshalae on the demons' orders.
>She says the truth, half of it at least
and then kills the witness wielding the other half
VERY compelling evidence for a repentant demon
But by the time the hag dies, Arueshalae has already admitted that she lied, and this also has nothing to do with what we're talking about retard
by the time the hag dies you have learned none of her story and have heard the platitudes of a succubus you just met which you now have no way of verifying
>nothing to do with what we're talking about retard
why don't you tell me what you think the subject of this conversation is about
>Arueshalae wouldn't want you to be a deus vult retard larper that kills any race he doesn't like
>TEEHEEEE BUT SHE KILLED THE EVIL HAG SHE ALREADY KNEW WAS EVIL! (and so do you if you actually read the fucking dialogue) GOTCHA
Her lying about her knowledge of the ivory sanctum has nothing to do with this
Last reply, the only good thing I can take out of this exchange is that it at least shows how autistic you are
>if you actually read the fucking dialogue
only arueshalae's explanation of the situation was written so for all effective purposes she covered up her past
the hag was an esoteric bitch too but we'll never know more because interrogation after capture is just oh so embarassing for arueshalae
Well yeah, she does, she's shy and insecure and ends fucking up, but she was right about having to kill the hag quickly.
>because...???
because hag has a lot of dirt of her that she doesn't want you to find out
She lets the hag talk if you ask her to, what she truly was afraid of is that she would try to do something if you allowed her to
Good Hags aren't people, let alone humans. She is CN for a reason.
The hag was casting a random spell, that's more than enough reason to kill her.
t. s*rkorian
T. Oglin, the day of the rope can't come soon enough for you feys
The only trustworthy mage is the guy the lives on the sun.
>Lying whore has a woman moment
Imagine my shock
arue would NEVER succ poor innocent young boys!
This, their young scrotums are not deformed enough for her meatball fetish
Arue rescuing Commander will always be my headcanon start, fuck Owlcat for not including it
anon, you want this?
rookie mistake. i'd ask for willpower to actually excersise and eat healthy
The willpower to exercise comes from doing it a couple times and realising it makes you feel good.
Eating healthy is the one you really need an iron will for.
this encounter is gay as fuck
I especially like how they put they eyeball inside the gigabro's circle to make him extra obnoxious to target before he shits and cums all over you so that he can reach weapon AoO anything your backline does with his 30 dex combat reflexes because THERE IS NO FUCKING SPACE TO DO ANYTHING HOLY SHIT
yeah its hard , but the enemies are also bottle necked and cant hit you. Once the contaminator is dead the rest is very doable.
Arue apologizing to me Personally after Greengate(she is really sorry) (Dearan taught her a ancient Tian xia apologizing method)
this sums up chaosfags pretty well
Greengate was just too show Arue doesn't trust everyone because she grow up in a society where everybody tries to eat and only helps you for his personal gains, being Honest is a foreign concept to her and i forgive her for that
>She is only like this because of the society she grew up in
So you extend the same courtesy to Wenduag?
I would if she didn't try to kill me more than once.
Arue slips ups once and it's for a "good" cause, then stays loyal.
Wenduag betrays you several times with exclusively evil intentions in mind
if she wouldn't have said that she will corrupt the mongrel yes.
I wish Wenduag's biggest evil in the game was just lying to you about something as irrelevant as doing her dirty job, at least that way I wouldn't have to put up with the intense autism those
>yeah bro it makes perfect sense my LG character would totally pick her over Lann
discussions bring
Lann is an annoying gay, Wendy is cute. Good enough for my LG character, not everything has to be a moral choice
That's a bit of an odd thing to say when you've got a village full of nice mongrels who want to help a complete stranger
Yes.
Her romance is also executed better than Arue's.
if she didn't go ''hahahah i will give you an army of blood thirsty cannibal murderers'' then yes. Remember not everyone deserves mercy and redemption, some people just deserve a swift blow to their necks
get it guys? the imprisonment begin in the mind, is not like i heard it already 20 times
I wish the loading screens had real tips and not just quotes you've seen a million times.
she cute
>ai art
that's Succubus pretending to be Iomedae
>it took a succubus to make Iomedae look hot and sexy
never will not be funny.
Wasn't the succubus pretending to be iomedae literally covered in blood
>Leave the tavern for the first time in Act 1
>"It's time to decide what to do with the Worldwound once and for all"
O-ok game thank
>yeeted by his own mom into hell
>imprisoned by asmodeus for funzies
>Nocticula calls him an incel freak and refuses to fuck him
>deskari bullies him
>his own lich prisoner laughs at him
>his ineluctable prison is quite eluctable all things considered
>his weak genes produce cow like offspring
Baphomet... had a hard life.
>imprisonment isn't even real bro just close your eyes lmao
We need a edit.
>chaotic good run
>supposed to spare everyone I can but that means losing out on some loot
I can't do it bros. The greed is too much
If a demon can sing the Song of Elysium then I trust them. Simple as.
I want to kiss her eyeballs.
>shieldbearers
To be fair to him, the strategy was sound, it was just Owlcat's dogshit balancing of the crusade mode that ruined it.
not bad if you're playing a mage, or if you just need some meat shilds for your marksmen
What's wrong with them, I find them useful for cheesing the earlier fights when you have a mage general, the cuirassers are worthless though, everything after that isn't worth considering because the map should be clear
they are useless. the enemy just ignores them and goes around
>What's wrong with them,
most enemies can just either fly around them or just walk past them while they take like two rounds to catch up, that's Why conscripts stacks are better
Can we not have 1 thread without aruemorons sperging out?
>Can we not have 1 thread without waifumorons sperging out?
what do you think?
They have to justify the taste of other men's semen somehow.
Can we not have 1 thread without anti-aruemorons sperging out?
Nope, they can't help themselves, and when the evil aruemorons talk back they proceed to complain about how bad they are. They want a circlejerk you see, you must cry about le hecking waifurino alongside them, otherwise you're a shitposter.
superiority breeds envy anon. let them seethe honestly.
>expect Nocticula to do like a last minute gotcha
>doesn't, even gives me a cool helm for rejecting her gift twice
well ok then
Why would she do a gotcha? She wants the worldwound closed.
Now, try leaving it open next time you play.
dunno, she's a demon lord and demons always lie and betray you cause they're cunts
>demons always lie and betray you
She already tried that, but the jig was up.
Yup, this is why they are kill on sight, the only good demon is a dead demon
i think she does, Darkness Caress or whatever the headband name is either given by her during threshold i think. which was pretty great for Arue
Shame you can fuck her, only become her simp on demon path. She give you the fuck looks through the game . A better ending would be something like you ascend with her together
true, redeemer queen expansion when?
>kill deskari and baphomet with ease
>but have to become her sub to fuck her
shitty idea, she should be my consort, not the other way around.
I mean you do want to fuck the succubus queen, if you want a submissive succubus arue might be more your thing
I am stronger than her by the end of the game
>if you want a submissive succubus arue might be more your thing
Arue is already a sub when you meet her.
I want to take a bratty smug demon lord and make her my cocksleeve.
Wipe that smile from her face.
>full vellexia route never
Vellexia is good, but the queen is better, we can already fuck her, it just forces the player to be a simp which is not desirable since if you went demon path it was probably to destroy and dominate
Nah, there are no rules in her city besides leaving outsiders alone, she betrays, expands her domains against other demon lords etc.
She just doesn't like having to clean up the mess other demon lords do in her city
Stick to Vellexia then
It's not like she loves you or anything
this one paragraph is cuter than anything ever written in arue's route
True. The ironic thing is that Camcam and Wendog have the Hispanice to their romances that should have been Arue's.
Thank god it didn't.
Head mistress in demonchad harem. Hags are best
>Wipe that smile from her face.
Make that smile wider, rather. She would be happier being cocksleeve than demon lord, guaranteed.
>erm, actually this dominant character is totally secretly craving the cock
kys
Femdomfags have enough material there's literally only majikoi that does this
Because the entire point of a hot indominable succubus mommy is pointless if she bends over the moment player character decides to make her do so
>indominable
That only gets my testosterone going harder
Based, maledomgarden gnomes have wenduag, galfrey, arue, and vellexia. I won't count cam because she's basically a switch. Meanwhile femdomfags get Nocticula and its a half assed 2 paragraph "romance" at the end of the game, and they'd take even that from us? Literally every female character would turn into a barefoot housewife if these morons got their way. Begone parasites, I want to be bullied!(lovingly)
>actually
>secretly
if she's not craving the cock now she well soon enough
i would if they had given her a proper demon corruption romance
Good thing they cucked evilmorons and didn't
>tfw devil corruption galfrey romance was scrapped
>demons
>proper romance
the insistence on this is almost as hilarious as "why can't I be a GOOD lich"
>demon nigs want the cute succubus too
lmao cry about it fag.
So you think she was an elf in life or do you think she has elf ears because it's every mortal's fetish?
isn't it just what succubus ears look like
But you get superior half succubus half mother full virginal maiden ascending with you
Nocticula is lucky that she has plot armor and can't end up permanently dead like that cunt.
We need Jason the lich poster to show that mom is essential to mock pharasma and other gods.
I don't give a flying fuck about the gods, and Lich already makes Pharasma seethe enough.
Explain to a speedreader why moronticula wants the worldwound closed
it merged Bephomet, Deskari and her realm together in a way. she just wants to close it because it's bad for Gankerness.
Wasnt there a whole thing too where it would force the planes of good to become more directly involved leading to all out interdimensional war and huge casualties all around? Although I thought demons were bout that life
no that's the explanation handbro gives for not calling a heavensent blitzkrieg on the worldwound
That has nothing to do with Nocticula
Worldwound opens in her lands, other demon lord's have to march their armies through her domain to go through which leads her to seethe when they act like morons
because baphometfags and deskarifags are using it as an excuse to party it up in her domain
She has no interest in conquest on golarion, all the worldowound is doing for her is ruining her business as deskarichuds and baphofags sperg out in her domain.
She also doesn't want to get caught in the eventual crackback that would come from heaven which is kinda what the player is about to achieve.
she sounds more like a devil than demon
>She also doesn't want to get caught in the eventual crackback
This makes me think.
Assuming the powder keg would be lit and some minor skirmishes would happen.
Can a demon lord remain neutral or not engage in fighting? Would forces of good agree to not fuck up Midnight Isles if Nocticula made a promise to stay out of their way?
well yeah, most demon lords stayed out of the invasion. It was primarily Deskari fucking shit up with Baphomet tagging along for funsies, and even then you only go after Deskari at the end as an Angel.
I'll probably out myself as a retard, but...
If both forces of good and evil agreed to start a planar war less they fuck everything up, including Golarion, which is why Iomedae or other gods didn't personally fix the World Wound or destroy the demonic invasions, why is Deskari and Baphomet incursion into Golarion through the wound not considered in breach of this agreement.
Shouldn't the gods or even other demon lords intervene?
gods generally can't directly intervene on Golarion, and if Iomedae herself personally came down with all the hosts of Heaven, the demons and the devils and the evil gods would all see it as a direct act of aggression by the forces of Good. Deskari and Baphomet are very powerful, but they're not even close to the level of actual gods, so their incursion on the mortal plane isn't as big a deal.
But the Deskari and Baphomet's incursion would escalate on its own in case the crusade would fail or the wound would expand, no?
>the crusaders win and the wound is closed
The best case scenario. Status quo is upheld. The big boys on both sides don't have to involve themselves.
>the crusaders are broken, thus the demonic forces gain a massive foothold on Golarion and continue ravage everything and/or the wound expands even more
The situation got out of hand and neither side can just pretend it to be a "small" conflict.
At least I assume if the crusaders were crushed or the wound continued to expand the good gods wouldn't ignore it.
The point is that the existence of the wound and the incursion of the demonic forces being tolerated by both sides will require the gods to act unless the crusaders wins and the wound gets closed.
But they do win so who cares
Even if Deskari is being an asshole, you still don't want to escalate shit. There are too many dieties look for an excuse to get a shot at their rival.
Deskari is intentionally trying to start shit because he wants to kill Iomedae. He was prophesized to kill Aroden, but since aroden died after BTFOing him and Iomedae has taken his place he is seething like crazy.
Bpahomet never actually sets foot in golarion, he has no interest in a fight with other gods, he just wants to extend his influence.
>Deskari is intentionally trying to start shit because he wants to kill Iomedae. He was prophesized to kill Aroden, but since aroden died after BTFOing him and Iomedae has taken his place he is seething like crazy.
chud vibes
didn't Aroden only kill the Echo
Yeah, and permanently stopped his first invasion, and then ascended.
Deskari was very much pissed of.
It depends. If heaven manages to destroy deskari and baphomet for good, it means every other demon lord is in danger. So rallying up with them would be wise the moment shit hits the fan. If heaven realizes it can take demon lords out one by one it's over for them, it would be an uneasy alliance but a necessary one.
Its shitty D&D 5E but is anyone going to give 'Solasta: Palace of Ice' a go? came out today.
im starting act 3 and the fucking queen just exile me to the hell because i did a good job?
when i finish this neutral good thing i will make a demon chaotic evil just to fuck her up
That is end of act 3.
you don't have to, when you meet her again pick the evil option. also use hellfire rays on her.
The entire Doomsday Starfall event makes no sense.
Why would the gods including all the good aligned ones willingly let the Aboleths legit bring down a meteor wiith apocalyptic proportions to Golarion?
Same with other powerful mages/spellcasters realizing it in time, considering even if they were evil it was something that would change the lives of EVERYONE
Meanwhile all the deities of evil and darkness must have rejoined at the widespread suffering and the fact the light of the sun was blocked so undead wonderland.
The what?
Fishmen thought humans got uppity and called a meteor. Thassilon got ruined, so did cyclops empire, elves went on their home planet for a while and at elast 2 gods died trying to stop it
Oh right Earthfall
Big rituals by mages/beings are not easy to stop, I guess.
It's why Karsus happened
Alignments need to be removed
>you can't do X that's evil and you're a GOOD character!
No one works like that in real life.
>No one works like that in real life
Not yet.
Thought convictions soon.
It's how nobody will believe a garden gnome is trying to be helpful and generous with goyim , some things are just impossible to pick depending on your life decisions/upbringing/culture
if you can't roleplay it's your problem anon
>you can't roleplay
>He says on the board that gets 500+ replies threads complaining about how some negress isn't murderous enough
>pick the options with (Good) next to them
Great roleplay and writing from Owlcat
you know you can pick evil options as a good character, right anon?
That's what I said in my first post
I think I misunderstood what you meant by that post then. So your problem is just the handful of alignment-restricted dialog options?
Pretty sure he's complaining more about anons here who go
>A Good character would never do (blank)
Why let the mouth breathers here affect your game, I don't know?
Kingmaker actually had hard alignment checks for some dialogue which was indeed retarded. They're gone in WOTR replaced with Path exclusive dialogue.
He wouldn't, Wendubro.
I used to be retarded like this until I understood being aligned doesnt mean you have to click every good or evil option
How cringe is Azata?
Pretty cringe. May be your style of cringe
I liked it but the consensus among anons seems to be that it's cringe and reddit. Truth is if you're asking if it's cringe you'll probably hate it.
it's okay and not that cringe i like it's superpowers tho
Power of friendship + reddit writing + gay songs + that annoying island
you'll like it if you like capeshit
Depends on your stance towards useless japanese mascot characters, since that's basically what Aivu is.
aivu is not useless take that back NERD
ok, fine. he makes for a good snack
okay, use-impaired
Aivu used to be extremely useful but then Owlcat nerfed her for god knows what reason.
It's this in a nutshell
Anyone that says it's cringe is trying too hard.
I could forgive all the cringe writing if it wasn't abundantly obvious that everyone on hippie island was slacking off while I put in all the work
Power of friendship my ass they were all sitting on whatever I did
I think Ulbrig is based. I want more characters like him
I like him too, Ganker shitposted about that DLC for months but I knew from the trailer it would have been decent.
Actual content added to the main campaign and a cool griffon that hates oglins, what more could I need?
I like him too but I'm afraid I'll miss banter between party members if I use him since he's dlc.
Is it worth playing Kingmaker or does WotR just objectively improve on it? Mainly talking about gameplay here.
not worth
>playing these games for the gameplay
I'm sure as hell not playing it for Owlcat's incredible writing.
you play them for the adventure
It's a better game with better companions. WotR has some QoL improvements though.
There is no bigger meme than retards praising Kingmaker's writing over WotR, and viceversa, they're both the same
one of them doesn't have darven so I count that as a win
Owlcat handles the lower stakes of Kingmaker much better.
>better companions
oh ai am laffin
Kingmaker is still good. Lacks a lot of the QoL which will suck if you played WoTR first, as is often the case with sequels. No mythic path either and less classes, but the base it still the same. I prefered the atmosphere of KM over WoTR too.
>tfw fucked up the Aru romance because of the Abyss "wait for her dialogue to pop up"
I am ascending instead I guess
do you not have 200 saves from saving every half hour of gameplay? shitter
even if I did I wouldn't want to replay all of that shit I just did again
i just use kill everyone toybox bind and always roll 20s settings to reply shit fast
What is that?
Basically Aru tells you to wait a bit after killing her last victim. Thing is, you have to wait a good chunk of time it seems, or it is bugged. I did her romance a while ago and it worked fine, but this time the dialogue wouldn't pop up. And so I went to deal with the main plot, and 3 hours later I find out that missing that dialogue breaks the romance.
I know what you mean
I had to sleep for half a month before I got a journal update
>Sleeping
Skip two days and it's done
Do I have to use Nenio?
no
make your own wizardchad
you can't even copulate with her
You'll learn to love her spells even if she is annoying as fuck, as least everyone she talks to seems to hate her as well
Create your own merc. It's better to have a silent character that you built to your liking than to have to deal with this obnoxious cunt
Nenio is cute
Deal with it
Is Angel path fun?
Wanted to play as a "burn all heretics" type of character this time.
yeah, it's ebin
Angel path has way more content than most paths due to it being a default path.
autism is defined by the inability to identify humor
I just started Chapter 5 and got hit half a dozen
>PLEASE HURRY
quests. Are any of these actually time-sensitive?
No.
just as long as you do them before going to the colyphyr mines
Is Arazni the ideal Owlcat romance?
>Pretty lich
>Extremely fucked up mentally
>Waifu like personality
>Canonically taken miles of undead cock
Imagine her as a secret And only Mythic party member in an owlcat style Tyrant's grasp game?
Yeah I'd fuck her.
i fucking hate negative levels
bro your restorations?
>-6
>recall level drain is an actual fetish
Anon...
Click Tristan then click death ward (extend) on yourself
depending on the sourse of level drainage death ward might not work (will not work in 99% of times because fuck you)
The opposite is true, it wont work 1% of the time because fuck you.
Give me your portrait.
>Runelord of Lust
>Nocticula (WoTR)
>Arueshalae (WoTR)
>Arazni (HoTT)
>The Asian barkeep/princess (RoTR)
>A literal Frost Wolf (Baba Yaga adventure path)
>The Sado-masochist cleric
>The Goblin-slayer elf (RoTR)
Any other CANON Paizo waifu bait characters I've missed? Note that it ONLY COUNTS if Paizo writers wrote the character a ERP bait (Elf, Barkeep) or personally waifufag the character (Nocticula).
Does Ember work as an Arcane trickster or is there some benefit to keep her as a witch?
After getting 3-4 hexes I feel like the witch class doesn't add much
dumb metagamer
might as well climb up to high level spells
I feel like all full casters are kinda forced to go 18-20 for that reason alone
You don't need to go arcane trickster, she shreds with hellfire rays even as a full Witch
if you're going to take prestige classes on full casters, you GENERALLY want Loremaster over other options
Arcane Trickster won't be very good because Sneak Attack doesn't work with Bolster. If you want to multiclass, go Loremaster. If you want to go even further beyond and dip, get a level of Crossblooded.
Has anybody here completed unfair? Did you use mercs or standard party members? If so did you deviate from their main class at all?
If I'm going to resort to mercs I just use mods to fully respec companions instead.
I've done Unfair and Last Azlanti on hard
I completed both with story companions and no metagaming bullshit (IE giving everyone an animal companion and stacking critical builds/AoO)
You do have to maximize their classes and do some dips for them to be effective, but it is totally doable if you know what you are doing
post the builds you used for last azlanti
I'm at work at the moment but off the top of my head:
MC: Sword Saint 20/Azata
Seelah: Paladin 20(Bulwark horse)
Cam: Spirit Shaman 20 (conjuration/summoning focus)
Wendy: Fighter 5/Rowdy 15
Woljif: Eldritch Scoundrel 10/Arcane Trickster 10
Ember: Witch 16/ Loremaster 3/ Crossblooded sorc 1
Nenio: Scroll Savant 20 (Illusion/Cold spells)
Daeran: Oracle 20 (Necromancy caster/support)
Sosiel: Cleric 20 (Get guarded hearth/animal companion and always bring him to tough fights)
Regil: HK 10/Armigger 10
Arue: Espionage Expert 20 (skill monkey build)
Greybor: Slayer 12/Mutation warrior 8
Lann: Zen monk 1/Druid 9/Loremaster 10
You do use every character even when you get rich during act 4 for infinite diamonds/scrolls, since early on people die and you have to switch your party around and there are plenty of skillchecks that you HAVE to pass
>Daeran: Oracle 20 (Necromancy caster
are theygood? The spells I mean. I was thinking of building him into nbecormancy, but the spells he gets seem underwhelming or situational at best
>Regil: HK 10/Armigger 10
rare. people usually whine about how 10 hellknight is unusable on anything above normal. but that's how i run him for theme reasons too. But I haven't played above core
he was in doubting the playable character. You can attribute the uptick in cucks craving an authority figure to the lack of fatherhood in our society, also why trump got elected
Just started chapter 5. Why can't I assign my general? What does that 3d 0h below him mean?
Wait three days
your general is so buttblasted about galfrey killing off his doomstack that he went on a 3 day bender
*6 month and 3 day bender
he on vacation
What the others said.
Really why the -fuck- wouldn't Galfrey use my generals? Are you high? I get the complex politics/they're a fucking demon/skellyman/Greenpeace advocate about the main character, but I think you want to at least bring the Baroness who has 50 arcane power and can end every single battle in one spell if they're gathered in a 3x3 box. Two if not.
Just seems like leaving money on the table. Fuck leave the armies just take the generals, ez win.
she asked for volunteers your general wouldnt go simple as
>can't ride the gryffon
BUT WHY???? I don't want no gay ass dinosaurs ro horses
I've done Azata, Aeon, and Demon. Give me my next run for Hard
Vivi Swarm
do it pussy
Which one makes it the funniest to eat everyone? I know Aivu is funny but are there any others?
Trickster
>use channeling
>deers sperg out
calm down schizos, just healing meself
>enemy casters and archers sit on the other end of the map sniping at me.
sure would be a shame if someone brought a griffon to a fight, eh?
>Cury assers with suHispaniciously high morale get two sequential turns at the start of every battle and just immediately wander to both corners of the enemy side to end skirmishing forever.
Hellknights while better don't move quite as fast. Every other cavalry unit while good isn't built quite as much like a brick shithouse as Hellknights or queerassessors
Yes.
>demon
he died still right
Regill has achieved what few NPCs have: Made me feel guilty for fucking playing the game. Then I remember he's a fucking gnome and racially this is just evening the score for having me deal with Gnobhar Gnomehands, Jan, and fucking fuck off fucking Kender.
trickster path mindbreaks him
Shit race, shit class. Useless.
>19 levels in warrior is a shit class
ok?
Yes.
He has no place in the party, whatever you do with him. There are better tanks, better DPS and he is even slower than those because he is a gnome ; unless you give me a mount. The camfag's right for once
He can have a swift teleport with his intended build, so nah
Yeah but I don't want to run half the cast because I hate them so he has to fill in that empty slot since I'm neutral on him
Warrior isn't a class.
>dull edge of the knife
fake edgy
Shut it Camfag