this just reminded me that i had a dream yesterday where Daeran was standing beside my bed and muttering something, i am sure this was dream sent by Desna that they are going to rework the devil path, give Arue her Anarchic gift and fix all the endings
This one is actually legit unless they backpedal and don't include it for some reason
I just checked and through the ashes part 1 came out in april last year, meaning that my guess that the citadel dlc would come out in august similar to the midnight isles dlc is probably wrong, it's going to take longer
Not all DLCs take the same amount of time to develop and bug fix. Why do you think you can use previous DLC releases to measure development time of future DLCs?
Especially DLCs might be shipped sooner or later than planned depending on other circumstances, such as what's being released at that time on the market.
Nine-tailed heir sucks since it affects your bloodline as a sorcerer effectively gimping you (making you normal powered instead of overpowered). In actual Pathfinder Kitsune Trickster is the best Rogue archetype purely for the reason of making CHA a guaranteed dump stat and still being the party face. This makes it doubly important if you intend to go Arcane Trickster since you will need the INT for casting.
Kitsune’s Guile (Ex)
At 1st level, a trickster relies on her intellect as much as her personality. She adds her Intelligence modifier on Bluff, Diplomacy, Disguise, and Sense Motive checks.
this just reminded me that i had a dream yesterday where Daeran was standing beside my bed and muttering something, i am sure this was dream sent by Desna that they are going to rework the devil path, give Arue her Anarchic gift and fix all the endings
I mostly just dislike how cheap and lame all the shifter forms look, the tiger was especially bad.
Felt and looked more like I was playing a gimped druid, a werewolf shifter at least is more distinctly
its own thing.
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>cheap and lame
Well you better pray that the wereforms look good then
>doesn't like the based and autistic kitsune
She would have been perfect If she ended up taking personal interest in the MC, but alas that's impossible the... metaphysical background they gave her.
>Tfw no trickster specific option to fix nenio into a tricky sex foxgirl and a romance option in act 5 >Tfw no demon specific option to rape the autism out of nenio and turn her into a demon cock loving bitch again >Tfw no impregnation ending with a fixed nenio
Would telling her if kitsune can crossbreed with humans with mythic powers be enough to have sex with her?
I heard you redeem an evil character by romancing Arueshalae. Is that true? I hate playing evil characters normally but redemption arcs are kino so I might try it if so
If you choose demon then choose not demon then there's additional Arueshalae dialogue for that, yes. You go have to pick a few gamer rage woman-beating options for that to happen though.
anon is trying to say that if you demon>legend you get additional dialogues from her and it becomes a redemption story for you too in a way. I speak abyssal
>redemption arcs are kino
They are, but hers is more on the sweet side with a few mildly Hispanicy comments and insinuations. Think a tablespoon of honey with a small drop of chili.
No, it's not true. you "redeem" yourself by not picking dialogue options marked "evil". If you mean changing your early evil mythic path, then you can do it regardless of whether the succ is even in your party. your redemtion has nothing to do with anything really, you just arbitrary choose to change it to legend or golden dragon
She's already mostly "redeemed" by the time you meet her. The remaining redemption left is her unbridled lust for you and innate demonic desire to consume your soul.
What the hell are you taking so long to do that the tavern defense encounter triggers? Especially if you've played act 1 more than once, I don't see why you don't just skip it entirely.
The flags for it triggering are actually kind of fucked up, I triggered it because I beelined to the library as I didn't do it last playthrough, doing that makes it trigger real fast.
Of course, I could just cheese it because you can save/reload entering areas as sometimes it doesn't trigger even if you're +3 days.
>*Hits pipe* I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a golden dragon. Honestly think about it rationally. You are lacking content, interesting characters, losing good mythic abilities, and have a shitty mentor for at least the last important chapter of the game solely to be disappointed you didn't stay your original path. All that hard work you put into your character- upgrading abilities, looking forward to your path's exclusive content, jumping through flower fields, putting up with Hal's bullshit. All of it has one simple result: You traded out a cool mythic path for a lacking one. Your mythic abilities are bugged and suck, and you have no content to look forward to. As a man who went golden dragon you are literally dedicating at least 10 more hours of your life simply to slug through a game with a path the devs cucked. It is the ultimate and final cuck. Think about it logically.
I wonder how many players first interaction with a Dragon in Pathfinder, is some air-headed Silver Dragon bitch who gets one shot by some insect looking thing, then think "Yeah! I want to be that Dragon!"
I asked this in the other thread but got no reply, is going Bloodrager for claws, Dragon Disciple for bite and Demon path for Gore/better claw a shit idea or somewhat tenable?
>Turning into animals is lame as fuck
Elaborate without resorting to furry or other non-rational reasoning.
Depending on circumstances, transforming into something else could be preferable.
The fey one turns into a, guess what, fey (Ankou, specifically)
And again, if you're playing demon just use demonic form
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The whole point is that I'm trying to make a natural weapon build that doesn't transform
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But you specifically said animals. Anyway in that case just play those two, fiendflesh grows claws and rageshaper does exactly what the name says. I used fiendflesh and it did the job well until I got the demonic forms
Also shit taste transforming into a monstrous abomination to fight is cool
Yep. It's an extremely strong spike in overall damage right when you get it and proceeds to become even stronger end game.
This is even more the case now that bite stacking isn't a thing anymore and SPAs getting removed from availability for greater enduring spells means that straight 10 Dragon Disciple's shapeshift loses a lot of it's daily power now.
So you're only looking at 4 attacks (2 claws, 1 bite, 1 gore) without it. Which obviously can't compete with shifter iterative natural weapon attacks. The old path of taking a bunch of fighter levels for weapon specialization on your claws is far inferior to taking 6 levels of shifter for fury.
Mind you none of this is "needed" on most difficulties and your 4 attacks can make you whole. The reason I always go DD however is for dragon form to augment my character with 2 wing attacks for a total of 6 natural attacks.
Not really. Though honestly shifter is like one of the classes that can go the full 20.
SPA?
Meant SLA's sorry. Spell-like abilities.
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Ah, I didn't even realize it used to work on SLAs. It's really too bad Owlcat hates greater enduring spells, the system was designed for 3-4 fights between rests but nobody plays the game like that. And if you are playing it for your first time you can't just clear dungeons within 2 casts of min/level spells.
also looks like shit everything is grey and brown, the battle music is hilariously bad, gameplay is boring and you spam the same skills in every combat every time
Chances are you kept talking to backer npcs.
I was getting filtered hard by the walls of text until I realized all the gold plated npcs are kickstarter backers each with their own oc donut steel wall of pointless text.
I tried both games and had the same experience. The first time around I chocked it up to having no idea what I was getting myself into but the second time I again found the game too boring to get that far in.
A helpfull info for all of you who want to play a paladin but don'tknow how
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xGRPN4jOqm2uPhLX37KbjBGn3MFNaI3Qg0ApecFmv8s/pub#id.fe26fb751a92
In the lore it's possible, godclaw is an example of 5 deities wrapped up into one. Queen of night is 4 devils that each are a little below demi-god. Mechanically you only get the benefits of one religion, you don't get all 5 weapons of godclaw deities or domains from all of them but you can worship Iomedae and Torag at the same time, you'd just have to choose one as a patron.
There was a kickstarter pledge for a new race. The choice was between kitsune, cats (similar to khajiit) and rats.
Those who pledged could then vote in a poll on owlcat forums (which no longer exist afaik).
Kitsune won in the end.
There was a LOT of spam from rats because there is a sizeable ratfag community with many of them coming from other series, such as Warhammer. And as you can imagine a lot of them are also vorefags.
Many people ended up voting foxes just so that those gays would just fuck off and they seethe about it to this day.
I honestly dread the possibility of there being another game set in Pathfinder universe with rats as a playable race.
WOTR dodged a bullet that's for sure. Any discussion about the game would destroyed by them more often than not.
Some anons might think I'm exaggerating, but they simply never had to deal with autistic groups like that one.
The sad part is that there are ratanons that are normal, but they are overshadowed by ratfags that are a literal plague on everything they touch.
Go checkout out some of the /twg/ threads as some other anon mentioned.
Ratfags can be similar to blacked/spadefag or any other mentally ill group you can think of in their collective insanity.
Imagine aruefags but worse with an occasional dose of vore.
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>Imagine aruefags
Triggering others with their mere presence even when not saying anything wrong? They must not be that bad then
1 week ago
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It's worse.
Much worse.
Total war players have experienced this first hand.
well, Thank god we dodged a bullet because Rat Nenio sounds way worse and we already have Furfags shitting up the threads because ''no Nenio romance'', ratfags would have been way worse.
also fuck you, what did Aruechads did to you that they live rent free in your head? atleast we don't shit every threads with Schizo ramblings or waifu post it into death
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>Rat Nenio
I don't believe they would reuse Nenio as is and just swap her race in case one of the other two races had won. At least, I hope not.
That would be too lazy even for Owlcat. >what did Aruechads did to you that they live rent free in your head?
Nothing, I like Arue, but there are anons that are obsessed with her, but that's fine. Every race, character, entity has people like that. I only used Arue as an example because she's well known character with a following.
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>I don't believe they would reuse Nenio as is and just swap her race in case one of the other two races had won. At least, I hope not. >That would be too lazy even for Owlcat.
boy are you in for a surprise that was the entire purpose of the race poll
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>I don't believe they would reuse Nenio as is and just swap her race in case one of the other two races had won. At least, I hope not
I don't know if it's confirmed but Nenio's race is ultimately irrelevant, she's there to promote the Enigma backer quest, so yes, they most likely would
>trash tail powers >only used by minmaxers to exploit the +2 stats from the mythic that boosts shapeshifted forms >in-game models look like pure shit
everybody lost when that shit won. at lest rats have a cool gimmick about turning into a swarm when several are in the same square
>When you change shape into your kitsune form and use the charge action in the same round, you can make a full attack against your opponent.
yeah bro keep shapeshifting over and over during a fight for fucking vulpine pounce
>barely
youre flat-footed until you get your turn. if you have low initiative, youre gonna be flat-footed all fucking round. what is with these fucking retards in these threads
yes, but if your initiative i lower than your enemy's you're gonna be flatfooted for the only time it matters: enemy attack. Stop being obtuse
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there are plenty of times where during an opening engagement the only option available to most characters is either waiting or moving which still leaves them flatfooted. that's why initiative is only tangentially related. you could have 42 initiative and still be flatfooted against something with 3 initiative.
should i install a mod that adds a feat for every lvl and play on higher difficulty to compensate for my cheating? I feel like having 10 feats on most classes is not enough
>should i install a mod that adds a feat for every lvl
no >play on higher difficulty
if you want >I feel like having 10 feats on most classes is not enough
learn how to build your character. or take a class with extra feats like wizard, seeker sorcerer, seeker oracle, fighter, warpriest, crusader, magus etc
>learn how to build your character.
i know how to build my character, i just want more >or take a class with extra feats like wizard, seeker sorcerer, seeker oracle, fighter, warpriest, crusader, magus etc
no
>>or take a class with extra feats like wizard, seeker sorcerer, seeker oracle, fighter, warpriest, crusader, magus etc >no
Genuinely, why not? Fighter is the most fun class, especially in the aftual tabletop just because you could put 10 of them in a room and have them all be playing a different game
Gestalt your build and play the game on hard as a anime character
.
Basically, if you are not the kind to just suffer the higher difficulties for the fuck of it, use mods to make you overpowered and enjoy a level of difficulty that you are comfortable with.
I like giving myself a 5 levels head start too.
angel/lann, azata/arushamalam, trickster/daeran, demon/sosiel/wenduag seem like the intended ones. Wouldn't call any of them kino though. Demon/sosiel is the one that makes me lol the most though
None of them, because none of them have the same level of reactivity that one does, except for Sosiel with demon.
why does art drawn by gays all share a similar art style? It's so easy to spot. It's like it was made by a GAY.I that just churns out long-faced, large-nosed, prominently-eyelashed characters. Nobody looks tough, even when they try to draw monsters or burly fags.
It's the tumblr style. It's called the tumblr nose for a reason.
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I wonder whether it's a case of them forming a neural network that was fed its own outputs. Who needs StableDiffusion when you can use a bunch of depressed gay autistic kids on the internet?
>Is she trying to fuck the pet?
How is that in any way surprising?
Firstly, Pre-Desna Arue did far more degenerate and twisted things than a wholesome polyamory.
Secondly, Aivu is a sentient dragon, so it's not like you can even argue "muh bestiality" when people in-universe are fucking dragons, angels, demons, succubi, tieflings, kitsune, and a whole lot of other in-human creatures.
You've to realize that a world such as the Pathfinder's one, with dozens of sapient species and intermixing, would have slightly different views to interspecies sex and relationships. Or rather, various parties within the world would have different views on it.
>succubi and other creatures are fucking centaur like demons
I'm pretty sure there are have to be instances of dragons fucking with bipeds, including humans, in their true form.
It's just statistically impossible for that to not happen at least once.
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it's not physically possible for a human sized creature to survive dragon dong. unless their dongs are pathetically tiny
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There are countless ways to shrink and grow in size, be it with spells or potions.
I seriously doubt a damned dragon can't adjust themselves to their partner one way or the other..
1 week ago
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Not if you have access to magic
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Arue can take it, Desna didn't delete her sex powers for a reason
7 days ago
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Explain this then
7 days ago
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Not sure what I'm looking at. You're going to have to provide an uncropped image, sir.
7 days ago
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https://files.catbox.moe/ecib49.png
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Me on the right. I'm using an illusion.
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This isn't very realistic. Her stomach isn't bulging enough from the massive cumflation she's receiving.
7 days ago
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Right. She would blow up like a balloon and die.
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Dragon seed just isn't that strong
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>Dragon seed just isn't that strong >he doesn't know
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Whoa mama
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This isn't very realistic. Her stomach isn't bulging enough from the massive cumflation she's receiving.
Here, have the high-res versions.
https://files.catbox.moe/h6221l.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hnk6rg.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hnk6rg.png
7 days ago
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i think her neck position ruins it
also the dick bumps look weird
7 days ago
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Are you the guy who commisioned those? When are you going to do more?
7 days ago
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You double posted, didnt post the i presume cropped version?
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Ah shit my bad, here.
https://files.catbox.moe/yw5l0p.png
7 days ago
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Honestly this hyper shit is a bit much for me, but I can respect the quality.
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I agree. When I commissioned it I asked to make her pregnant and the artist just went nuts with the belly. I didn't have the heart to ask to make it smaller since it was already done. But I like how it turned out all things considered.
7 days ago
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looks like shit
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Ah shit my bad, here.
https://files.catbox.moe/yw5l0p.png
I hate what you gays turned me into...
7 days ago
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atleast you aren't getting turned on by Swarm shit
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Yeah, that would be me. But that was a second hand stuff, i was looking for ember porn and one thing leads to another.
I did that exactly. >YES SACRIFICE YOUR TRUE LOVE >wait but I have yet to finish her companion quest maybe I should reload >...nah screw it, can't be that important
The end of the game really is a slog of companion quests.
angel/lann, azata/arushamalam, trickster/daeran, demon/sosiel/wenduag seem like the intended ones. Wouldn't call any of them kino though. Demon/sosiel is the one that makes me lol the most though
>Use Toybox >Enable multiple class archetypes. >Primalist/Steelblood >Hellknight 10//Bloodrager >Legend >Fill out with signifier///hellknight levels
Time to drop the hammer and unleash some indiscriminate justice.
Is Kingmaker any good story/character wise?
I don't want to play WotR again because it's incredibly tedious to, I've already played Lich and I'm just incredibly out of it.
I don't understand why they didn't make it like Baldur's Gate and allow you to give your characters an AI to cast spells and do shit, I want to feel like I am fighting with companions not by myself, if I wanted the latter I'd just make a solo build.
>I don't understand why they didn't make it like Baldur's Gate and allow you to give your characters an AI to cast spells and do shit
Who the fuck does that
I do?
I can solo the game, I know the encounters and balance of 2e ADnD let alone Baldur's Gate itself.
The companions are there to carry my stuff and add some degree of randomness to the game, I want them to cast spells, use abilities, maybe race to see who get more kills.
If I am controlling everyone and the biggest thing they do is "I see enemy I normal attack" then what's the point?
In Baldur's Gate I have the benefit of playing solo but with companions to amuse me.
In Pathfinder I play with companions but I feel solo because I need to order them each single round.
I don't understand how they fuck it up even, enemies clearly have an AI, why not just give us the ability to make our companions use it too?
>love wizards and sorcerers >already played Lich, don't like any of the other compatible paths and consider Sosiel the worst companion in the entire game, thus being practically forced to make a cleric yourself or play something that is compatible with Angel
>Struggle with a 2 Hand fighter/Judge Inq Uagotha lich jank >Can't hit anything >Can't scare anything >Cheat and just respec as a full Warpriest of Uagotha >Everything is scared >Cleaving cunts >I even get some skellies
Huh...
Yes it is, the encounter with Galfrey is filled with angel dialogue options that completely bypass the skill checks, including outright keeping the commander title
"Mythic destiny" content pack, coming out in the season pass 3 will contain
Full Devil rework >Will become an early game path >Corrupt Arue into becoming an Erinys >Enslave Minhago >hellknight and hellknight signifier class improvements >Coup into Nerosyan so that it becomes your puppet state >Asmodeus faith will get new interactions >Will be able to execute seelah for being undisciplined >Will be able to send the entire ineluctable prision with Baphomet inside it back to hell >Will be able to trick Nocticula into a contract that obligates her to help you in the final dungeon >In wintersun will be able to replace Jerribeth with a devil that serves the player >In act 4 will be able to take over the arena and the brothel
Lich Partial rework >Zacharius portrait >New Villain added, a demon of Orcust will send clerics to hunt you in act 3, it will climax in act 4 when he will track you down in the nexus and a boss fight will ensue >Leaving either the vampire or the cleric of Urgothoa alive won't make Zacharius mad >If the player has impressed Zacharius, asking him to not threaten the player won't be necessary anymore >If the lich sacrifice was either Camellia or Wenduag, the player will be able to resurrect them in a form that resembles Jaethal from Kingmaker. (Wenduag will appreciate the newfound power, Camellia will resent the player for the loss of pleasure in life)
Trickster partial rework >Socobenthot portrait >More jokes and interactions added >Will be able to prank the people of wintersun by making the illusions worse >Nurah will be recruitable as a permanent companion >Improvements to the mythic gameplay will make DC casting builds more viable, specifically Illusion, enchantment and transmutation will be buffed by the path >Lantern king cameo >The council will organize a prank on queen Galfrey after the one on Nocticula has been resolved >Will be able to bring Vellexia as a mirror with yourself like finnean >Will get a scene with Cayden Caylean
>Corrupt Arue into becoming an Erinys >her anarchic gift(which is going to be added into the DLC trust me) turns into Lawful gift.
i am Ready Asmodeus-sama for some great Devil kino
>Devil path
Mandatory, there is basically nothing fun to do. And detach it from the aeon, if make it early. >Lich rework
Only stuff i want is to ress the companions who left or just let me do it because i want to damn them or have fun with them. Imagine an undead amber preaching in front of naxxramass because even undead can be redeemed.
Also golden dragon needs a rework, same as devil stuff i want to storm alunshirra as a badass dragon.
A couple of more summons as swarm wouldn't be that bad too but it's not on the top of the list.
Doesn't matter, that was the chance, and it actually plenty of endings and even very specific shit most people won't see like having Greybor kill Wenduag, the chance already passed, it's not happening
Not him but considering the last dlc is suppose to be like citadel for me3 (and the rumors that through the ashes 2 will add archetypes) I wouldn't be surprised if they did that given the amount of complaining about endings. Like you say hang out with your waifu in the DLC and get a new ending from that.
Can someone explain to me what sort of valid excuse they can have to not EXPAND on the ending slides?
I'm not saying they should rework the endings, simply that they could very easily flash out the slides at the end which talk about what happened to the characters post-game.
They straight up said that Arue's ending with the KC is "generic", which is a horseshit-tier excuse.
I'm not expecting them to have every little thing that happened through the game have an impact on the ending slides, but they definitely do have various flags to be able to add or reword a few sentences to make the closure better.
Not him but even disregarding the romances (Arues one is definitely the stupidest since it contradicts what the end of her quest said she wanted) the endings overall suck and leave something to be desired.
nta, but yes it did.
Arue was supposed to interact with others more and stop worrying which conflicts with her secluding herself and she told the KC multiple times that they are going to live/be together, which also conflicts with her secluding herself.
It very much did considering her romanced quest ending is that she wants to live together with you, but her romance ending has her live alone and you occasionally visit. It's like two different people with no contact with each other wrote each, same with Wenduags romance and questline since I don't think the writers wanted her to seem like a schizo.
This is some serious cope, how you've somehow convinced yourself that Owlcat doesn't pander to waifufags, can't wait for the day that the meme of them doing a dating sim game actually becomes real.
considering that waifutards are still seething two years later, I think they're pretty good at that. but sure keep pretending that you're not seething. Not at all. No siree, no seething over there. For sure
>Y-You're seething! see they didn't make space Amiri a romance option! seething!
Okay but don't get mad when Rogue Trader threads end up getting filled with Cassia and Yrlietfags
They are viable. There isn't an encounter that can't be beat no matter the melee weapon if you spec for it. Your character gets so busted it doesn't matter in the end. Metafags have autism.
Start with Demon (Black Swordsman) into Legend (Fantasia Arc) for 20/20 2HFighter then Barbarian or Primalist. Thematically, Steelblood but that class sucks ass.
Did Owlcat say anything about what game they will be working on after Rogue Trade?
Any chance for another Pathfinder game or are they going to make more Warhammer games before coming back to Pathfinder?
>announce
I never said anything about them announcing it officially. They might have said something during some interview just like they did when they said that they want to take a break from Pathfinder and fantasy and try their hand on another genre.
That info came way before Rogue Trader was even announced.
Why is Kingmaker so fucking long?
I'm 200 hours in and I just saved retard deva Tristan. There are like 6 more regions to claim...
When is it going to end?
You can do that retard, choose the fire spells. Don't forget spell pen I and II.
Follow this guide:
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I made a merc blaster using this guide, besides some different gear i added 5 levels of lore master for shatter defenses and improved evasion and some other personal changes, blasters are fun
For like 6 first levels of spells he is a haste and blur dispenser. Then depending on you specifications and schools you like, you start to build shit. There are good offensive spells in the first 6 levels but nothing nuclear.
>then what the fuck is sorcerer supposed to use.
Until you get fireball / lightning bolt, the only spells you're allowed to cast are grease (makes the enemy trip and fall) and glitterdust (blinds enemy)
Sorcerers excel with control spells like Grease, Phantasmal Web, and Acid Fog. Damage wise, they generally provide support - like finishing off low health mobs with Magic Missile or softening groups with Fireball. Theyre simply not that great at dealing damage due to how Pathfinder works. Even burst damage spells like Hellfire Ray are way better used with certain other classes as theyre specifically built for getting the most out of casting those specific types of spells. Just because a spell is in your spellbook doesnt mean its good on your class. Other classes can have that same spellbook which is why seemingly shit spells like Shocking Grasp are there bc they work well on other classes.
The EE release should have been a big wake up call that waiting is never the right answer.
And why the fuck would you want MORE content in a game that's already 100+ hours?
because i intent to play only once
also i care not for waiting considering that i have a lot of other games to play
so will they put more content or are they done with it?
They had to put another gay. I thank god at least is not obnoxious as the fish guy of dreadfire and we lacked a naturefag. But i really don't like the sarkorians, they are so dull and uninteresting. I would have liked more a toxic druid.
Act 4 as Angel. >Murder absolutely every demon of note, purge the fleshmarket, we do not negotiate with terrorists. >Want to get Trever so have to participate in Battlebliss >Even the Hand is uninterested in being made into sport
They turned my hobby into a job and I'll never forgive them for it. Is this dude even worth it?
easily one of the worst dungeons I've ever encountered in an rpg >insanely long >spiders literally teleporting behind your party >hordes of swarms (harmless...but they take forever to kill with the acid/fire flasks) >every fucking enemy has concealment
You shouldn't be using flasks for swarms now, you can just kill them normally.
I did that dungeon recently and ekun killed them in one round.
Also take blind fight to deal with concealment.
>you can just kill them normally.
They still ignore most of the damage from my weapons. Valerie, Octavia, and Tristan straight up can't hurt them. And Ekun (with the bow from the troll fortress) and my MC (with a +1 frost falchion) hit them for less than 10 damage >Also take blind fight to deal with concealment.
Already took it. I still miss about 50% of the time, which leads to incredibly dragged out fights
Maybe I had an easier time with then because I took linzi, good hope plus bard song is like an extra 5 damage per hit. Between that and the acid damage from ekun's bow they melt pretty easy.
>because I took linzi
I was going to take her, but my game bugged out.
Whenever I had her in my party and rested, she would still be tired or exhausted, no matter how much I rested. So I had to bench her, since she's no good when her stats are nuked into the crator by exhaustion.
Fast bombs and rapid shot, only problem is your burn through bombs really quickly. Use targeted admixture on single targets. Take force bombs for crowd control.
Be careful with that, not all the ranged feats work with bombs so double check before you take them. Only ones I know for sure work is rapid shot and precise strike.
>just debuff your enemies >x save successful >failed to overcome spell resistance >
or you can spam rays and kill everything
why is the game like this?
I mean, you have to overcome spell resistance with ray spells too.
Only a few touch attack offensive spells like snowball ignore it.
And other CC spells ignore spell resistance (like Grease).
If you can make one work, you also can the other
BG1 is an excellent game that you should try. If you really don't want to, you can skip it since BG2 recaps a bit, but you'll miss out on character progression, character stories, and most importantly, tomes.
Skipping bg1 is pleb shit. It's not a perfect game or anything but don't listen to people who tell you to skip it completely.
Forgot to add, BG2 is fantastic and still holds up today. I kinda prefer 2nd ed to 3rd ed though. BG2+ToB is a great experience and a masterclass of gaining character power
Forgot to add, BG2 is fantastic and still holds up today. I kinda prefer 2nd ed to 3rd ed though. BG2+ToB is a great experience and a masterclass of gaining character power
Almost finished my Paladin Kingmaker playthrough and I'm wondering what mythic path to take for WotR. Mechanics aside, what's the most fun/most satisfying/best story paths? Alternatively just give me your best to worst path rankings.
It's good.
Pure gendarme and cavalier of the paw are strong, multiclass potential with other riding classes to get feats and bonus abilities, dip with beast rider to get any pet you want.
You can also multi class with disciuple pf the pike for non-pet builds if you want to be quirky.
Learn to treat the pet as another party member and buff/raise accordingly, and you will do well.
Charges are still a bit janky, but much better than the first few months
Lion is kinda ok if you turbocharge charisma a bit, and star in the same also if you wanna do bard-lite boosting, but I'd rather not rely on the cavalier giving a charisma based mode a few times per day to get a decent Morale bonus to attack/AC.
i think you are confusing me with Aeon jannies, i am an Independent Angel that bows to no one, unllike you who has to beg & growl at his master feet to receive your Phylactery LMAO.
>Playing lawful stupid angel >Constantly discipline and reprimand troops and execute criminals for even minor infractions >Kill demons and cultists on sight not giving them any chance to twist and corrupt >Game supports these choices with [Good] and [Lawful] >Fuckbucket Woljif deserts abandoning his post and likely getting allies killed >Has a demonic past and connections >Is found consorting with cultists >Is found leading a ritual to sacrifice my soldiers >Kill Woljif [Evil]
Fuck you. I had a litany of reasons to kill him and the devs were too ass blasted that their super special OC was killed that they marked my alignment permanently with that shit.
Aeon: "you will make up for your crimes by serving the crusade"
Also, he ran because he was scared and thought it was all over, when he tried to come back he was captured by those cultists. He didn't do anything criminal because he was a camp follower not an actual inlisted crusader. He tells you he knows a secret way into the grey garrison and will show it to you for his freedom.
Kill her before she kills shark girl, it's not too late. That's said, she killed those dudes because they were bad mouthing you. If you do anything here other then speak privately the romance is over.
There is no 'supposedly', season pass 2 was confirmed months ago and the first dlc has been out for a month. At least read up on the things you shitpost about a little
I don't think so. Also, every piece of DLC Owlcat has released has been fucking terrible, for both games, so chances are there's no point in waiting. It'll be shit as well.
Youtube review gave the shills an excuse to escape their various containment boards.
This is the tail end of it since they're pretty obnoxious with constantly bumping multiple 12+ hour old threads.
>Barely one thread every three days >There are now six zelda threads and four street fighter ones. Also genshin and fire emblem threads refresh by the hour,
Yeah surely shills love pathfinder.
By the looks of it, that only creates more. Just like the Camposting, which makes people hate her even more. Both always seemed like false-flagging, considering their reverse effects
What class should I pick for a primarily melee focused Angel and Azata? Probably gonna do 2 playthroughs at minimum of WOTR since im currently doing my 2nd one on Kingmaker while I wait for Owlcat to drop all the DLC content and stop breaking the game. Also please let it be something that uses armor, dont wanna be a gay running around with robes.
Mutation warrior or two handed warrior from fighter, mad dog or instinctual rager from barb, Gendarme or cavalier of the paw cavalier, Sword Saint or Arcane rider magus, Primalist or bloodrider Bloodrager, Vanilla or Martyr Paladin, Demonslayer or Freebooter Ranger, Deliverer or Spawn Slayer.
All will work pure class with strength martial, half of them use heavy armor.
To expand on that,rogue/viv builds, crusader cleric, oracle builds, warpriest etc also work, but they either feel more underwhelming, need more dips or have too much spellcasting power.
Azata needs a while to get going for martials unless you have midnight isles dlc for a certain broken ring (but that matrters mroe for higher difficulties)
>dont wanna be a gay running around with robes.
why? they are strongest armors in the game :). you can also try Bloodrager or melee demonslayer too i guess
Not that fun because of how vidya works and limited spell list, but the mythic spell list and abilities plus loremaster prestige allow to fix some things.
I kind of want to try a prestige class but I can't tell which classes benefit most from them. I assume going Aldori Defender into Swordlord makes sense, but what starting class works best for say a Dragon Disciple or a Student of War?
For duelist, either rogue, aldori or sword saint.
Swordlord is for aldori or rogue/thug who picked dueling sword
Hellknight goes with Paladin, fighter or disciple of the pike if you go for 3 to 8 levels.. 1 level dips for smite chaos go for more.
Signifer is kinda pointless, but can be thrown on clerics with no loss, and various martial spellcaster builds.
Dragon disciple is for any spontaneous caster who goes melee and wanst stat boosts(4 levels).
Elkdritch knight can be used to boost bab of various classes (like eldritch scoundrel for example) or make a wizard into martial, but they require decent planning.
Loremaster can be used with any spellcasting class well. Amazing value.
Stalwart defender is for TSS or a few other heavy armor builds, where you devote everything to it. Kinda boring.
Arcane trickster is for ray casters (usually wizard/sorcerer base, but you can get creative).
Winter witch is good normally, but ascendant element kinda kills appeal. Can be fun for a caster shamn or different witch flavor.
Mystic theurge can work if you pick angel or lich and merge spellbooks with one class, but it is too much of a pain to handle.
Student of war requires too much work and investment to make mind over metal work. I guess a smart fighter build or swoord saint could work, but meh.
Do not bother with assassin.
>but what starting class works best for say a Dragon Disciple
sorcerer? never tried Student of war but Loremaster works great for Spellcasters and Edlritch knight for wizard or sorcerer.
WOTR is so disappointing in so many ways. I pretty much sped through Act 6 using Toy Box's Kill Everything On Screen button - the game had lost all challenge completely and I was so bored. Owlcat's approach to encounter density is baffling and utterly tiresome after 50 hours, let alone 100+. I#m not even going to comment on the rage-inducing 'strategic layer' that the game has.
Hellfire ray at will IS fun.And ssince you retain the previous mythic ranks, you have bane or zippy magic to help.
Plus emulating sword of heaven/demon rage basic buffs feels nice. Hell seals are an interesting diea, but awkward execution
The trial you are subjected is an interesting scene (as aeon at least)
You also get a banger theme and one of the best speeches to rouse the army.
But that is it.
You get few unique abilities overall to play with, and not enough scenes/unique reactions to make it worth it. Late game paths are lame overall, but legend has more unique reactions and fun things to do iwth 20 extra levels, and swarm is an extreme departure on events and npc reactions at least
As nearly every modern game nowadays, the amount of woke shit in it can be counted on one hand and is so superficial that it might as well amount to nothing while its main goal is to pander to the screeching minority without alienating the rest of the community too much.
tldr Ignore those few initial woke shit dialogues in the very beginning of the game. There's literally no more of it later down the road.
There's a reason why any woke stuff is mostly concentrated in the very beginning of the game as that's what the "journalist" and tw*tterfags base their opinions on.
Really? i might give it another try then but i don't know the game screams of feminist garbage to me. How long before i can get rid of the moron bitch warrior anyway?
until act 3 where she intervene if you try to kill her friend unjustly , you can also just tell her to leave and go pick another commander if you like.
I was playing Ulbrig's dlc yesterday and just now I realized that the WW gays wanted the shard of aroden's shield to have one more charge for Tar-Baphon's tactical nuke.
>Flying enemies incoming >Hide in a cave with a hole in the ceiling >Put your frontline with their backs to said hole so the enemy can easily get behind your frontline >Also give up a strategic location just as a test to see if you can trust the commander instead of just judging him based on his leadership and choices over the first few months of the campaign
Regill is a dumb fuck.
Lorefags, shouldn't kitsune be digitigrades, i.e. stand on its toes like canines or felines do (see the image)?
I was curious so I looked it up and found conflicting information from PF where they are sometimes shown with plantigrade (human) feet while other times with digitigrade feet.
inb4 furry
I simply wonder about the inconsistency. Making them digitigrades would make them more unique from other races which I don't see as a bad thing. I can see them however not making them digitigrades so they wouldn't have to worry about making a different model(s) for feet/legs.
I wanted to try this game out but I fear all the stats will melt my brain.
I've played grim dawn and Divinity original sin 2, will that be enough or is it not approachable to newcomers of the genera?
I just wanted a comfy RPG but everything is a minmaxing nightmare. I love building characters but I'm not a fan of the feat system in pathfinder and every fight being stacking 800 buffs until your attributes are in the hundreds.
Maybe I'll just run through the game once on lower difficulty.
What kind of stuff are you having trouble with? The PF feat system is a bit of a mess between feat chains and feat groups. The game UI only exacerbates it. You shouldn't really need to go all out buffing unless you're playing on Core+ but bubblebuffs help a lot.
I feel you.
Use toybox to tweak the gameplay to your liking.
Such as resetting spells, HP etc.
I recall there's also a way to create a template for applying all buffs or something along those lines.
I asked the same thing myself. A lot of combat prep is a chore, especially when you've to do it over and over again for basically the entirety of the game.
I can only assume that some people enjoy that kind of thing.
Yeah ok you put it selectable so everyone is happy. But it's not like a nude mod or something nobody asked, everyone is knowledgeable of how much an assle it is. With the angel cleric i had 14 buffs to use and those were just the aoe.
Does the Ninetails path makes you grow tails as you level up already?
Did they ever promise to do that/fix it?
Do we even know when the DLC should be released?
No we don't
I just checked and through the ashes part 1 came out in april last year, meaning that my guess that the citadel dlc would come out in august similar to the midnight isles dlc is probably wrong, it's going to take longer
Not all DLCs take the same amount of time to develop and bug fix. Why do you think you can use previous DLC releases to measure development time of future DLCs?
Especially DLCs might be shipped sooner or later than planned depending on other circumstances, such as what's being released at that time on the market.
How viable is kitsune and the Nine-Tailed Heir?
Was thinking about giving it a try during my next run.
Kitsune is fine, all races are viable. Nine-Tailed Heir is bad, but it's bad for a sorceror, so it's still viable, just sub-optimal.
Nine-tailed heir sucks since it affects your bloodline as a sorcerer effectively gimping you (making you normal powered instead of overpowered). In actual Pathfinder Kitsune Trickster is the best Rogue archetype purely for the reason of making CHA a guaranteed dump stat and still being the party face. This makes it doubly important if you intend to go Arcane Trickster since you will need the INT for casting.
Kitsune’s Guile (Ex)
At 1st level, a trickster relies on her intellect as much as her personality. She adds her Intelligence modifier on Bluff, Diplomacy, Disguise, and Sense Motive checks.
Furries
where do you think we are? lmao you must be new around here.
Kakakaka
You've always been hated. Kill your family.
keep those thoughts inside or get a shrink
>He doesn't know about the new DLC archetypes
Ratbros... we're coming back, one way or the other
this just reminded me that i had a dream yesterday where Daeran was standing beside my bed and muttering something, i am sure this was dream sent by Desna that they are going to rework the devil path, give Arue her Anarchic gift and fix all the endings
This one is actually legit unless they backpedal and don't include it for some reason
QRD?
Through the ashes part 2 is (apparently) adding new archetypes including a shifter one that lets you transform into a wererat (also cat and wolf)
Good thing I haven't managed to get farther than act 1 with a shifter yet
That sounds way cooler than just turning into a tiger or something
If you're going to grow an animal dick then go all the way.
I mostly just dislike how cheap and lame all the shifter forms look, the tiger was especially bad.
Felt and looked more like I was playing a gimped druid, a werewolf shifter at least is more distinctly
its own thing.
>cheap and lame
Well you better pray that the wereforms look good then
we already know how they look. they're not good
Kingmaker doesn't count
>they're bringing in the weretouched shifter
I hope they actual buff it so you do gain shit after level 5.
They already buffed shifter to begin with, why wouldn't they?
new shifter architype that allows you become werewolf,rat and cat
>tfw no sly and lewd kitsune companion
>doesn't like the based and autistic kitsune
She would have been perfect If she ended up taking personal interest in the MC, but alas that's impossible the... metaphysical background they gave her.
>Tattoed arm
>Still tatooed in fox form
???????
it makes sense once you know her backstory
Can you tell me? i would like to know
she isa demon lord(areshkagal) experiment
Huh, might explain things I've heard about her. Thank (you)
She breathes through her fur
>Tfw no trickster specific option to fix nenio into a tricky sex foxgirl and a romance option in act 5
>Tfw no demon specific option to rape the autism out of nenio and turn her into a demon cock loving bitch again
>Tfw no impregnation ending with a fixed nenio
Would telling her if kitsune can crossbreed with humans with mythic powers be enough to have sex with her?
there should've been Nenio reactivity if you took Aspect of Areshkagal
>+4 to all physical attributes or pounce
>Necessarily the best martials
Furries keep winning
I heard you redeem an evil character by romancing Arueshalae. Is that true? I hate playing evil characters normally but redemption arcs are kino so I might try it if so
If you choose demon then choose not demon then there's additional Arueshalae dialogue for that, yes. You go have to pick a few gamer rage woman-beating options for that to happen though.
Can you explain what you mean a little?
nta, but you can redeem her as nearly any mythic path.
As for the anon, he's speaking nonsense.
He was talking about reedeming his own character by dropping the evil path
anon is trying to say that if you demon>legend you get additional dialogues from her and it becomes a redemption story for you too in a way. I speak abyssal
You can't fug the asian qt. Owlcat only supports gay relationships.
I'm a yuri fag anyways so I don't mind
>Only one gay romance in the game
Do they?
Ye
>redemption arcs are kino
They are, but hers is more on the sweet side with a few mildly Hispanicy comments and insinuations. Think a tablespoon of honey with a small drop of chili.
yes.
>That nose
She looks like a pig
No, it's not true. you "redeem" yourself by not picking dialogue options marked "evil". If you mean changing your early evil mythic path, then you can do it regardless of whether the succ is even in your party. your redemtion has nothing to do with anything really, you just arbitrary choose to change it to legend or golden dragon
She's already mostly "redeemed" by the time you meet her. The remaining redemption left is her unbridled lust for you and innate demonic desire to consume your soul.
That's not what he asked
And?
She's already neutral by the time you meet her.
>Playing on Hard
>Tavern defense
>Switch to story
I will do this every time, this encounter is so fucking ass holy shit
What the hell are you taking so long to do that the tavern defense encounter triggers? Especially if you've played act 1 more than once, I don't see why you don't just skip it entirely.
The flags for it triggering are actually kind of fucked up, I triggered it because I beelined to the library as I didn't do it last playthrough, doing that makes it trigger real fast.
Of course, I could just cheese it because you can save/reload entering areas as sometimes it doesn't trigger even if you're +3 days.
maybe he wants to kill all the boss npcs that spawn afterwards?
The what huh what now?
people probably didn't click the picture since it was obvious it's some shitty furgayry
i though after the bar event, they spawn stronger enemies around the city. like the Vrock and Nabasu
vrock isn't connected ot the tavern. he appears of you release him from the summoning circle. the nabasu is a yes
>*Hits pipe* I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a golden dragon. Honestly think about it rationally. You are lacking content, interesting characters, losing good mythic abilities, and have a shitty mentor for at least the last important chapter of the game solely to be disappointed you didn't stay your original path. All that hard work you put into your character- upgrading abilities, looking forward to your path's exclusive content, jumping through flower fields, putting up with Hal's bullshit. All of it has one simple result: You traded out a cool mythic path for a lacking one. Your mythic abilities are bugged and suck, and you have no content to look forward to. As a man who went golden dragon you are literally dedicating at least 10 more hours of your life simply to slug through a game with a path the devs cucked. It is the ultimate and final cuck. Think about it logically.
I wonder how many players first interaction with a Dragon in Pathfinder, is some air-headed Silver Dragon bitch who gets one shot by some insect looking thing, then think "Yeah! I want to be that Dragon!"
I asked this in the other thread but got no reply, is going Bloodrager for claws, Dragon Disciple for bite and Demon path for Gore/better claw a shit idea or somewhat tenable?
Just pick shifter
Turning into animals is lame as fuck, I'm trying my best to avoid that
>Turning into animals is lame as fuck
Elaborate without resorting to furry or other non-rational reasoning.
Depending on circumstances, transforming into something else could be preferable.
>Elaborate without resorting to furry or other non-rational reasoning.
I don't have an objective argument mate, it's just personal preference.
Most of them turn into other shit, only rageshaper and fiendflesh don't.
The fey one turns into a, guess what, fey (Ankou, specifically)
And again, if you're playing demon just use demonic form
The whole point is that I'm trying to make a natural weapon build that doesn't transform
But you specifically said animals. Anyway in that case just play those two, fiendflesh grows claws and rageshaper does exactly what the name says. I used fiendflesh and it did the job well until I got the demonic forms
Also shit taste transforming into a monstrous abomination to fight is cool
Then don't turn into an animal retard, especially if you're playing demon
You'd have to burn a mythic trait for the endless rage. If you're fine with that, it's tenable as long as you sort out your AC.
But the best natural attack builds are going straight through shifter.
Makes sense. It's mostly because of the level 6 shifter ability right? The one that gives you full attacks with natural weapons?
Yep. It's an extremely strong spike in overall damage right when you get it and proceeds to become even stronger end game.
This is even more the case now that bite stacking isn't a thing anymore and SPAs getting removed from availability for greater enduring spells means that straight 10 Dragon Disciple's shapeshift loses a lot of it's daily power now.
So you're only looking at 4 attacks (2 claws, 1 bite, 1 gore) without it. Which obviously can't compete with shifter iterative natural weapon attacks. The old path of taking a bunch of fighter levels for weapon specialization on your claws is far inferior to taking 6 levels of shifter for fury.
Mind you none of this is "needed" on most difficulties and your 4 attacks can make you whole. The reason I always go DD however is for dragon form to augment my character with 2 wing attacks for a total of 6 natural attacks.
Gotcha, it makes sense. Does shifter get anything particularly good past those 6 levels or can I just take 6 level "dip" into it?
Not really. Though honestly shifter is like one of the classes that can go the full 20.
Meant SLA's sorry. Spell-like abilities.
Ah, I didn't even realize it used to work on SLAs. It's really too bad Owlcat hates greater enduring spells, the system was designed for 3-4 fights between rests but nobody plays the game like that. And if you are playing it for your first time you can't just clear dungeons within 2 casts of min/level spells.
SPA?
pillars of eternity is better and is less austic
not broken enough
it's so boring I had to drop it a few hours in
Are you me?
>click on npc
>greeted to 5 paragraphs of purple prose, all of which is literal fluff
also looks like shit everything is grey and brown, the battle music is hilariously bad, gameplay is boring and you spam the same skills in every combat every time
Chances are you kept talking to backer npcs.
I was getting filtered hard by the walls of text until I realized all the gold plated npcs are kickstarter backers each with their own oc donut steel wall of pointless text.
same. i dropped POE1 in the grim derp village and when the scottish schizo elf started talking. POE? more like POS
scottish shizo sounds good though. more games need schizo characters.
I finished kingmaker like three times and couldn't play poe for more than 10 hours
I tried both games and had the same experience. The first time around I chocked it up to having no idea what I was getting myself into but the second time I again found the game too boring to get that far in.
A helpfull info for all of you who want to play a paladin but don'tknow how
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xGRPN4jOqm2uPhLX37KbjBGn3MFNaI3Qg0ApecFmv8s/pub#id.fe26fb751a92
i have a question, can you worship two deities at the same time as a cleric and Paladin or is just not possible?
In the lore it's possible, godclaw is an example of 5 deities wrapped up into one. Queen of night is 4 devils that each are a little below demi-god. Mechanically you only get the benefits of one religion, you don't get all 5 weapons of godclaw deities or domains from all of them but you can worship Iomedae and Torag at the same time, you'd just have to choose one as a patron.
Meant for
Ratbros....Did we lose?! I am curious, were kitsune meant to be rats at some point?
There was a kickstarter pledge for a new race. The choice was between kitsune, cats (similar to khajiit) and rats.
Those who pledged could then vote in a poll on owlcat forums (which no longer exist afaik).
Kitsune won in the end.
There was a LOT of spam from rats because there is a sizeable ratfag community with many of them coming from other series, such as Warhammer. And as you can imagine a lot of them are also vorefags.
Many people ended up voting foxes just so that those gays would just fuck off and they seethe about it to this day.
I like rats (Skaven, irl pet rats, etc), but Ratfags are their own worst enemy.
like Skaven
yes?
Good. I'm a warhammer guy and ratfags ruin everything they touch. Kitsune are gay as fuck but I'm glad to see that r*ts got wrecked.
>And as you can imagine a lot of them are also vorefags
Proof?
Kitsune honest sounds the least gay out of all
This is true, they ruin /twg/ to this day.
I honestly dread the possibility of there being another game set in Pathfinder universe with rats as a playable race.
WOTR dodged a bullet that's for sure. Any discussion about the game would destroyed by them more often than not.
Some anons might think I'm exaggerating, but they simply never had to deal with autistic groups like that one.
The sad part is that there are ratanons that are normal, but they are overshadowed by ratfags that are a literal plague on everything they touch.
>but they simply never had to deal with autistic groups like that one
Have you ever browsed these threads?
This guy is right.
I remember there was one autist who could not get enough of valerie.
It would be something.
>ratfags that are a literal plague on everything they touch
heh
it can't be that bad as the fur fags who wanted Nenio romance r-right?
Go checkout out some of the /twg/ threads as some other anon mentioned.
Ratfags can be similar to blacked/spadefag or any other mentally ill group you can think of in their collective insanity.
Imagine aruefags but worse with an occasional dose of vore.
>Imagine aruefags
Triggering others with their mere presence even when not saying anything wrong? They must not be that bad then
well, Thank god we dodged a bullet because Rat Nenio sounds way worse and we already have Furfags shitting up the threads because ''no Nenio romance'', ratfags would have been way worse.
also fuck you, what did Aruechads did to you that they live rent free in your head? atleast we don't shit every threads with Schizo ramblings or waifu post it into death
>Rat Nenio
I don't believe they would reuse Nenio as is and just swap her race in case one of the other two races had won. At least, I hope not.
That would be too lazy even for Owlcat.
>what did Aruechads did to you that they live rent free in your head?
Nothing, I like Arue, but there are anons that are obsessed with her, but that's fine. Every race, character, entity has people like that. I only used Arue as an example because she's well known character with a following.
>I don't believe they would reuse Nenio as is and just swap her race in case one of the other two races had won. At least, I hope not.
>That would be too lazy even for Owlcat.
boy are you in for a surprise
that was the entire purpose of the race poll
>I don't believe they would reuse Nenio as is and just swap her race in case one of the other two races had won. At least, I hope not
I don't know if it's confirmed but Nenio's race is ultimately irrelevant, she's there to promote the Enigma backer quest, so yes, they most likely would
It's worse.
Much worse.
Total war players have experienced this first hand.
>he doesn't want to leave such a strong impression on nenio with mythic cock that even she never forgets it
don't even care that she's a kitsune
>Read random post of gay saying "I want to fuck Nenio uwu"
>REEEEE SEEETHING THREAD RUINED WHY ARE FURFAGS LIKE THIS
why are you so sensible?
>seethe-coping about ratfriends in a pathfinder thread of all places
KWAB
>literally proves him right in one post
lol
lmao
Why would rat people be into vore? Maybe snake people would but why rat?
Anti-ratfags are mentally ill. They just voted for the most furfag friendly thing which was a japanese gay fox or whatever it even is.
Ratgirls are cute
>single player crpg
Thanks but no thanks
>trash tail powers
>only used by minmaxers to exploit the +2 stats from the mythic that boosts shapeshifted forms
>in-game models look like pure shit
everybody lost when that shit won. at lest rats have a cool gimmick about turning into a swarm when several are in the same square
tail powers
pounce isn't garbage...
>When you change shape into your kitsune form and use the charge action in the same round, you can make a full attack against your opponent.
yeah bro keep shapeshifting over and over during a fight for fucking vulpine pounce
Does initiative only matter on turnbased?
no, even real time operates in 6 second turn with a turn order and all that comes with it like being caught flat-footed etc
initiative barely has anything to do with flatfooted. it's mostly circumstantial.
>barely
youre flat-footed until you get your turn. if you have low initiative, youre gonna be flat-footed all fucking round. what is with these fucking retards in these threads
>youre flat-footed until you get your turn.
not how it works in these games. you're flatfooted until you perform a standard action.
yes, but if your initiative i lower than your enemy's you're gonna be flatfooted for the only time it matters: enemy attack. Stop being obtuse
there are plenty of times where during an opening engagement the only option available to most characters is either waiting or moving which still leaves them flatfooted. that's why initiative is only tangentially related. you could have 42 initiative and still be flatfooted against something with 3 initiative.
Threadly reminder who best waifu is.
All demons, queers, furries and generally everybody still living will be turned into fat skeleton death stacks.
And then we shall have order, peace and quiet.
should i install a mod that adds a feat for every lvl and play on higher difficulty to compensate for my cheating? I feel like having 10 feats on most classes is not enough
no
your game your rules, if you feel like you don't have enough feat there is a option in that allows you to increase your feat per lvl
>should i install a mod that adds a feat for every lvl
no
>play on higher difficulty
if you want
>I feel like having 10 feats on most classes is not enough
learn how to build your character. or take a class with extra feats like wizard, seeker sorcerer, seeker oracle, fighter, warpriest, crusader, magus etc
>learn how to build your character.
i know how to build my character, i just want more
>or take a class with extra feats like wizard, seeker sorcerer, seeker oracle, fighter, warpriest, crusader, magus etc
no
>>or take a class with extra feats like wizard, seeker sorcerer, seeker oracle, fighter, warpriest, crusader, magus etc
>no
Genuinely, why not? Fighter is the most fun class, especially in the aftual tabletop just because you could put 10 of them in a room and have them all be playing a different game
>Genuinely, why not?
for various reasons: theme, already played it etc
Use Dark Codex and get some basic feats for free.
Gestalt your build and play the game on hard as a anime character
Seconding
.
Basically, if you are not the kind to just suffer the higher difficulties for the fuck of it, use mods to make you overpowered and enjoy a level of difficulty that you are comfortable with.
I like giving myself a 5 levels head start too.
what are must have mods, apart from auto win crusade battles
for QOL
>toybox
>Visual adjustment 2
>weapon focus plus
>scaling cantrips
>companion respecc
>fineann tweaks
>spellbook merge
for overhaul mods
>character options+
>darkcodex
>expanded content
>tabletop tweaks
>tabletop tweaks reworks
>morvarchplaystyleExpansion
use modfinder to download them.
https://github.com/Pathfinder-WOTR-Modding-Community/ModFinder
What are the most kino mythic/romance combos? Some seem obvious but others like Aru/Demon>Legend seem a bit less obvious.
Angel/Targona is the only one that's kino
succxangel, Succxlegend, DemonxWendu and lichxCamellia, AzataxAivuxArue are kino.
>AzataxAivuxArue
Is she trying to fuck the pet?
>Demon/Sosiel
Well now, that one's unexpected.
we both are
>cookie eating dragon
yes. it's as cringe as it sounds. maybe even worse
why does art drawn by gays all share a similar art style? It's so easy to spot. It's like it was made by a GAY.I that just churns out long-faced, large-nosed, prominently-eyelashed characters. Nobody looks tough, even when they try to draw monsters or burly fags.
It's the tumblr style. It's called the tumblr nose for a reason.
I wonder whether it's a case of them forming a neural network that was fed its own outputs. Who needs StableDiffusion when you can use a bunch of depressed gay autistic kids on the internet?
Lich technically gets it too, but there is no way to make Sosiel commit to it, unlike demon.
>Is she trying to fuck the pet?
How is that in any way surprising?
Firstly, Pre-Desna Arue did far more degenerate and twisted things than a wholesome polyamory.
Secondly, Aivu is a sentient dragon, so it's not like you can even argue "muh bestiality" when people in-universe are fucking dragons, angels, demons, succubi, tieflings, kitsune, and a whole lot of other in-human creatures.
You've to realize that a world such as the Pathfinder's one, with dozens of sapient species and intermixing, would have slightly different views to interspecies sex and relationships. Or rather, various parties within the world would have different views on it.
>people in-universe are fucking dragons
pretty sure they only fuck dragons in their human form
>succubi and other creatures are fucking centaur like demons
I'm pretty sure there are have to be instances of dragons fucking with bipeds, including humans, in their true form.
It's just statistically impossible for that to not happen at least once.
it's not physically possible for a human sized creature to survive dragon dong. unless their dongs are pathetically tiny
There are countless ways to shrink and grow in size, be it with spells or potions.
I seriously doubt a damned dragon can't adjust themselves to their partner one way or the other..
Not if you have access to magic
Arue can take it, Desna didn't delete her sex powers for a reason
Explain this then
Not sure what I'm looking at. You're going to have to provide an uncropped image, sir.
https://files.catbox.moe/ecib49.png
Me on the right. I'm using an illusion.
This isn't very realistic. Her stomach isn't bulging enough from the massive cumflation she's receiving.
Right. She would blow up like a balloon and die.
Dragon seed just isn't that strong
>Dragon seed just isn't that strong
>he doesn't know
Whoa mama
Here, have the high-res versions.
https://files.catbox.moe/h6221l.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hnk6rg.png
https://files.catbox.moe/hnk6rg.png
i think her neck position ruins it
also the dick bumps look weird
Are you the guy who commisioned those? When are you going to do more?
You double posted, didnt post the i presume cropped version?
Ah shit my bad, here.
https://files.catbox.moe/yw5l0p.png
Honestly this hyper shit is a bit much for me, but I can respect the quality.
I agree. When I commissioned it I asked to make her pregnant and the artist just went nuts with the belly. I didn't have the heart to ask to make it smaller since it was already done. But I like how it turned out all things considered.
looks like shit
I hate what you gays turned me into...
atleast you aren't getting turned on by Swarm shit
Yeah, that would be me. But that was a second hand stuff, i was looking for ember porn and one thing leads to another.
Post source so I can properly explain it to you.
>wholesome polyamory
she's not interested, i tried fucking her and cam at the same time and she said no.
>Not Wenduag and lich for peak irony
I did that exactly.
>YES SACRIFICE YOUR TRUE LOVE
>wait but I have yet to finish her companion quest maybe I should reload
>...nah screw it, can't be that important
The end of the game really is a slog of companion quests.
I wonder if you go full autistic and you don't do any quest who are you sacrificing?
if you don't romance someone you boast to Zacharious how much of a kissless Virgin you are, you can still do the ritual tho
Thats even better than sacrificing your true love. Show zacharius how much of a fucking isolated and deranged geek you are.
angel/lann, azata/arushamalam, trickster/daeran, demon/sosiel/wenduag seem like the intended ones. Wouldn't call any of them kino though. Demon/sosiel is the one that makes me lol the most though
None of them, because none of them have the same level of reactivity that one does, except for Sosiel with demon.
Foxes are annoying gays and only furfags like them. Rats are cool little bros and they're smarter than most people.
kys ratfag
>I'm a furfag
>I hate CRPGs
good. now fuck off
>pick aeon
>can't revert chuds to normal
shit game, dropped
>Use Toybox
>Enable multiple class archetypes.
>Primalist/Steelblood
>Hellknight 10//Bloodrager
>Legend
>Fill out with signifier///hellknight levels
Time to drop the hammer and unleash some indiscriminate justice.
Is Kingmaker any good story/character wise?
I don't want to play WotR again because it's incredibly tedious to, I've already played Lich and I'm just incredibly out of it.
I don't understand why they didn't make it like Baldur's Gate and allow you to give your characters an AI to cast spells and do shit, I want to feel like I am fighting with companions not by myself, if I wanted the latter I'd just make a solo build.
>I don't understand why they didn't make it like Baldur's Gate and allow you to give your characters an AI to cast spells and do shit
Who the fuck does that
I do?
I can solo the game, I know the encounters and balance of 2e ADnD let alone Baldur's Gate itself.
The companions are there to carry my stuff and add some degree of randomness to the game, I want them to cast spells, use abilities, maybe race to see who get more kills.
If I am controlling everyone and the biggest thing they do is "I see enemy I normal attack" then what's the point?
In Baldur's Gate I have the benefit of playing solo but with companions to amuse me.
In Pathfinder I play with companions but I feel solo because I need to order them each single round.
I don't understand how they fuck it up even, enemies clearly have an AI, why not just give us the ability to make our companions use it too?
DAO, FF12
Well Kingmaker has the exact same gameplay, and other characters are arguably more important since this game is easier to solo
>get 3 free resets until it costs money
yeah im cheating myself money. im like 80 hours on kingmaker and still dont understand a lot
>love wizards and sorcerers
>already played Lich, don't like any of the other compatible paths and consider Sosiel the worst companion in the entire game, thus being practically forced to make a cleric yourself or play something that is compatible with Angel
make a merc Cleric
wizards and sorcerers are good if you go Desna.
>Struggle with a 2 Hand fighter/Judge Inq Uagotha lich jank
>Can't hit anything
>Can't scare anything
>Cheat and just respec as a full Warpriest of Uagotha
>Everything is scared
>Cleaving cunts
>I even get some skellies
Huh...
Anything special on Angel Mythic with romancing Arueshalae?
No
Not romance but you do get a moment where you stand up for her against Galfrey.
doesn't need to be a romance, and i dont think it's angel asclusive
It is, i'm sure of it. You mention how you "see the light of her soul"
Yes it is, the encounter with Galfrey is filled with angel dialogue options that completely bypass the skill checks, including outright keeping the commander title
I think there's a similar situation for Aeon
No there isn't
I definitely stood up to Galfrey about Arueshalae at the bottom of Drezen
Sure but the path only dialogue is for angel, aeon doesn't have that
>lawtist can't stand up to authority
i think it 100% is, i never Saw it when i didn't romance her in Divine hunter build.
Are the ps4 ports of the games any decent.
Owlcat needs a year to make the game not run like shit, and you think they can make it run well on 10 year old hardware?
I played both on my ps4, besides the applications randomly closing at times I had a great time.
"Mythic destiny" content pack, coming out in the season pass 3 will contain
Full Devil rework
>Will become an early game path
>Corrupt Arue into becoming an Erinys
>Enslave Minhago
>hellknight and hellknight signifier class improvements
>Coup into Nerosyan so that it becomes your puppet state
>Asmodeus faith will get new interactions
>Will be able to execute seelah for being undisciplined
>Will be able to send the entire ineluctable prision with Baphomet inside it back to hell
>Will be able to trick Nocticula into a contract that obligates her to help you in the final dungeon
>In wintersun will be able to replace Jerribeth with a devil that serves the player
>In act 4 will be able to take over the arena and the brothel
Lich Partial rework
>Zacharius portrait
>New Villain added, a demon of Orcust will send clerics to hunt you in act 3, it will climax in act 4 when he will track you down in the nexus and a boss fight will ensue
>Leaving either the vampire or the cleric of Urgothoa alive won't make Zacharius mad
>If the player has impressed Zacharius, asking him to not threaten the player won't be necessary anymore
>If the lich sacrifice was either Camellia or Wenduag, the player will be able to resurrect them in a form that resembles Jaethal from Kingmaker. (Wenduag will appreciate the newfound power, Camellia will resent the player for the loss of pleasure in life)
Trickster partial rework
>Socobenthot portrait
>More jokes and interactions added
>Will be able to prank the people of wintersun by making the illusions worse
>Nurah will be recruitable as a permanent companion
>Improvements to the mythic gameplay will make DC casting builds more viable, specifically Illusion, enchantment and transmutation will be buffed by the path
>Lantern king cameo
>The council will organize a prank on queen Galfrey after the one on Nocticula has been resolved
>Will be able to bring Vellexia as a mirror with yourself like finnean
>Will get a scene with Cayden Caylean
swarm? gold dragon? targona?
This is only the evil aligned side fren, God Dragon is getting stuff, Azata and angel too.
As for swarm, it's not confirmed.
>swarm, it's not confirmed
thainen will fuck things up once again, i know it.
>Evil path is evil
Yeah I'd hope it is, what the fuck.
>rework at all
lmao never fucking idiot, the game is feature and dlc complete.
it's still missing a dlc, the one meant to be like mass effect 3's citadel dlc
I hope this is true, because a full Devil path sounds fun as fuck
>we didn't finish our game
>please buy the fix
>Corrupt Arue into becoming an Erinys
>her anarchic gift(which is going to be added into the DLC trust me) turns into Lawful gift.
i am Ready Asmodeus-sama for some great Devil kino
wouldn't it be called the Axiomatic gift?
whatever, all we know is that the gift is confirmed for the new dlc, get hyped bros!
Sounds good. Where do I sign?
>Devil path
Mandatory, there is basically nothing fun to do. And detach it from the aeon, if make it early.
>Lich rework
Only stuff i want is to ress the companions who left or just let me do it because i want to damn them or have fun with them. Imagine an undead amber preaching in front of naxxramass because even undead can be redeemed.
Also golden dragon needs a rework, same as devil stuff i want to storm alunshirra as a badass dragon.
A couple of more summons as swarm wouldn't be that bad too but it's not on the top of the list.
Gold dragon needs be be removed and replaced with something cool. How about an artificer mythic path where you put yourself into a golem.
They could have done the borg stuff from the kickstarter shit into a path. That dungeon is so annoying and ballbuster at least make my time worth.
>the Source? from my dream
The last dlc will add in new endings to appease the romancefags.
Source: I feel it in my bones.
>Source: I feel it in my bones.
What god is responsible for this?
I'll keep believing prophetic dreams from Desna for now.
>Bones
Uragthoa
if it doesn't contain a graphc description of how i fucked daeran every day of the week while on an adventur in absalom, then I am not interested
>bones
I don't trust a lich
The endings aren't getting changed, ever, that was what the EE was for
the EE was fucking dogshit, everybody knows it. including the devs.
Doesn't matter, that was the chance, and it actually plenty of endings and even very specific shit most people won't see like having Greybor kill Wenduag, the chance already passed, it's not happening
Not him but considering the last dlc is suppose to be like citadel for me3 (and the rumors that through the ashes 2 will add archetypes) I wouldn't be surprised if they did that given the amount of complaining about endings. Like you say hang out with your waifu in the DLC and get a new ending from that.
all the EE was is a fancy name for the console release
Pick the top 3 1st edition Adventure Paths you wish got games and pick the 2nd Edition Adventure Path you hope gets a game
Can someone explain to me what sort of valid excuse they can have to not EXPAND on the ending slides?
I'm not saying they should rework the endings, simply that they could very easily flash out the slides at the end which talk about what happened to the characters post-game.
They straight up said that Arue's ending with the KC is "generic", which is a horseshit-tier excuse.
I'm not expecting them to have every little thing that happened through the game have an impact on the ending slides, but they definitely do have various flags to be able to add or reword a few sentences to make the closure better.
stfu romancefag
Not him but even disregarding the romances (Arues one is definitely the stupidest since it contradicts what the end of her quest said she wanted) the endings overall suck and leave something to be desired.
Yeah they're not as detailed as Kingmaker's, even after the EE
>Arues one is definitely the stupidest since it contradicts what the end of her quest said she wanted
No it didn't waifutard
nta, but yes it did.
Arue was supposed to interact with others more and stop worrying which conflicts with her secluding herself and she told the KC multiple times that they are going to live/be together, which also conflicts with her secluding herself.
It very much did considering her romanced quest ending is that she wants to live together with you, but her romance ending has her live alone and you occasionally visit. It's like two different people with no contact with each other wrote each, same with Wenduags romance and questline since I don't think the writers wanted her to seem like a schizo.
>valid excuse
There isn't any.
It's just laziness and most people don't care anyway
>Can someone explain to me what sort of valid excuse they can have to not EXPAND on the ending slides?
they like dabbing on waifutards
This is some serious cope, how you've somehow convinced yourself that Owlcat doesn't pander to waifufags, can't wait for the day that the meme of them doing a dating sim game actually becomes real.
considering that waifutards are still seething two years later, I think they're pretty good at that. but sure keep pretending that you're not seething. Not at all. No siree, no seething over there. For sure
>Y-You're seething! see they didn't make space Amiri a romance option! seething!
Okay but don't get mad when Rogue Trader threads end up getting filled with Cassia and Yrlietfags
Not sure what that has to do with anything. weak comeback, anon.
Also they're already filled with them. waifutards are like cockroaches.
Cry about it, we own owlcat
they're just retarded
>a bloo bloo, paragraphs are hard, they take time..
chud game for autists
How do I actually build a character?
>How do I actually build a character?
>focus on improving your life
>meet people
>do stuff
>experience life
So how awkward does it get worshiping Pharasma as a lich?
>Make a Rager who uses Scythes for Swarm run
>Can't pick Deskari as god to worship
Why not? It could make some sense for a secret cultist run.
Because he's your enemy
Yeah and so are your friends in most of the paths.
Also Baphomet
he's not a deity
What is he then? The game calls him a Demon Lord. Is that not a deity?
no, it's a demon lord. He doesn't have the ability to grant his followers spells like gods can.
Yes they do
He can though lorelet.
demi-god, Lamashtu was a demon lord too before ascending to godhood and dumping Baphomet for good
Has anyone used the brawler class mod? I'm considering that or being some kind of ranger.
Whats wrong with rats?
they are small, furry, and disgusting animals that should be droved to extinction.
Is Ulbrig some fags idea of an ideal partner?
What is the strongest Legend build? What is the strongest greatswotd Legend build?
I should do a solo Gutz run. Guts hates demons.
Anything that abuses crit memes with trickster
greatswords suck.
In comparison to what, the most busted weapon set ups in the game. Greatswords are viable.
>BUT DEY VIABLE
yeah so are daggers but they still suck.
They are viable. There isn't an encounter that can't be beat no matter the melee weapon if you spec for it. Your character gets so busted it doesn't matter in the end. Metafags have autism.
so you agree that greatswords suck? good.
Nope, never said that. Cope.
well until you do you'll continue to be wrong.
Go suck off your boyfriend crpgbro gay, both of you should rub fauchards together
NUH UH
20 2H fighter/20 primalist bloodrager or Barbarian
Start with Demon (Black Swordsman) into Legend (Fantasia Arc) for 20/20 2HFighter then Barbarian or Primalist. Thematically, Steelblood but that class sucks ass.
Did Owlcat say anything about what game they will be working on after Rogue Trade?
Any chance for another Pathfinder game or are they going to make more Warhammer games before coming back to Pathfinder?
Probably not a Pathfinder game anytime soon because there's going to be a Abomination Vaults Hack n Slash ARPG upcoming
I'm praying to the gods they make a fantasy warhammer CRPG. That, I may break and pre-order.
Why would they announce a new project when Rogue Trader is still in fucking Alpha?
>announce
I never said anything about them announcing it officially. They might have said something during some interview just like they did when they said that they want to take a break from Pathfinder and fantasy and try their hand on another genre.
That info came way before Rogue Trader was even announced.
>That info came way before Rogue Trader was even announced.
But it didn't come during the Alpha of fucking WotR.
I expect it will depend on how successful the Rouge Trader game is.
Why is Kingmaker so fucking long?
I'm 200 hours in and I just saved retard deva Tristan. There are like 6 more regions to claim...
When is it going to end?
Because it's a proper CRPG instead of the lame imitations of the so-called "CRPG Renaissance".
God I want this stupid meme to die. None of the "classic" CRPGs are overly long and bloated like the Pathfinder games.
Because you only played plebshit even back then.
why are spellcasters such a meme until late game? Is this a dnd thing?
>just use grease
I refuse
Just use grease/pits/haste/fireball/lightingbolt/slow/shadow clone juitsu/gitgud.
whats the fucking point of touch spells when they have like 5% to hit on top of being bogged down by vancian magic. What subhuman created such system
For magus?
then what the fuck is sorcerer supposed to use. I just want to shoot fire at morons
You can do that retard, choose the fire spells. Don't forget spell pen I and II.
Follow this guide:
I made a merc blaster using this guide, besides some different gear i added 5 levels of lore master for shatter defenses and improved evasion and some other personal changes, blasters are fun
For like 6 first levels of spells he is a haste and blur dispenser. Then depending on you specifications and schools you like, you start to build shit. There are good offensive spells in the first 6 levels but nothing nuclear.
>then what the fuck is sorcerer supposed to use.
Until you get fireball / lightning bolt, the only spells you're allowed to cast are grease (makes the enemy trip and fall) and glitterdust (blinds enemy)
Sorcerers excel with control spells like Grease, Phantasmal Web, and Acid Fog. Damage wise, they generally provide support - like finishing off low health mobs with Magic Missile or softening groups with Fireball. Theyre simply not that great at dealing damage due to how Pathfinder works. Even burst damage spells like Hellfire Ray are way better used with certain other classes as theyre specifically built for getting the most out of casting those specific types of spells. Just because a spell is in your spellbook doesnt mean its good on your class. Other classes can have that same spellbook which is why seemingly shit spells like Shocking Grasp are there bc they work well on other classes.
Touch spells are for classes like Magus, where you can strike and cast on the same turn.
Will there ever be a party member with a concept/personality as cool as pic related in a crpg ever again?
Stop romancing evil women.
Ivory Sanctum can suck my shit
What's the best class/build for Angel Mythic to have the most fun
Mythic shit is largely irrelevant. The good classes are good without them and mythics are only a bonus.
How do you have fun
With flavor? paladin
By breaking the game? oracle
Oracle angel
My mouse has suddenly got super choppy. Game framerate is fine 144 but my mouse is at like .5 fps. What is wrong with these stupid russian basterds.
what is the news on new content?
its fine to pirate now or should I wait more for more content and updates?
The EE release should have been a big wake up call that waiting is never the right answer.
And why the fuck would you want MORE content in a game that's already 100+ hours?
because i intent to play only once
also i care not for waiting considering that i have a lot of other games to play
so will they put more content or are they done with it?
Then read the thread retard.
There's plenty of stuff in Act 5. Trouble is it's all bad.
the thread has thousands replies you fucking salty imbecile that got btfo by multiple people
So do you retard or any other in this fucking place knows about more content or they are done?
>Why would you want more of something you like
uhh
>Endless complaints about how barren act 5
>noooo why do you want more content
I want the Citadel DLC
If 80% of the classes are useless, then the game is broken.
There's literally only 3 archetypes (not classes) that are useless. You're retarded and can't theorycraft for shit.
For all intents and purposes archetypes are classes.
So it's 3 classes out of almost a hundred that are broken, k.
With how much shit randomly breaks each patch I guarantee it's more than 3.
When will all the dlc for this game be out? I don't want to play untill it's complete
There's only one more DLC coming up and I highly doubt that it'll be anything that fancy.
Two
is the game finished yet?
this hairy gay is such a disappointment
They had to put another gay. I thank god at least is not obnoxious as the fish guy of dreadfire and we lacked a naturefag. But i really don't like the sarkorians, they are so dull and uninteresting. I would have liked more a toxic druid.
Dunno, I like racist boomers
That is just cringe
also he is a gay
Sosiel Vaenic
are there going to be any more patches? dlc?
This is much better than Areelu's theme
Act 4 as Angel.
>Murder absolutely every demon of note, purge the fleshmarket, we do not negotiate with terrorists.
>Want to get Trever so have to participate in Battlebliss
>Even the Hand is uninterested in being made into sport
They turned my hobby into a job and I'll never forgive them for it. Is this dude even worth it?
>Is this dude even worth it?
nope. his class sucks
>class
he has like 4 of them
Paladin and hellknight make sense, but what the fuck is the point of armored hulk?
black man ANGRY
The Womb of Lashtumu is so fucking tedious. I hate it.
easily one of the worst dungeons I've ever encountered in an rpg
>insanely long
>spiders literally teleporting behind your party
>hordes of swarms (harmless...but they take forever to kill with the acid/fire flasks)
>every fucking enemy has concealment
You shouldn't be using flasks for swarms now, you can just kill them normally.
I did that dungeon recently and ekun killed them in one round.
Also take blind fight to deal with concealment.
>you can just kill them normally.
They still ignore most of the damage from my weapons. Valerie, Octavia, and Tristan straight up can't hurt them. And Ekun (with the bow from the troll fortress) and my MC (with a +1 frost falchion) hit them for less than 10 damage
>Also take blind fight to deal with concealment.
Already took it. I still miss about 50% of the time, which leads to incredibly dragged out fights
nok-nok should have elemental +2 kukris from the goblin fortress where he fights the king.
I must've missed one. I only found "mother's cure" at the goblin fort
you're also better off having tristian use his turns to do blessing (short) on someone than attacking, his strength is poor
>blessing (short)
I normally have him use touch of good on Ekun
Maybe I had an easier time with then because I took linzi, good hope plus bard song is like an extra 5 damage per hit. Between that and the acid damage from ekun's bow they melt pretty easy.
>because I took linzi
I was going to take her, but my game bugged out.
Whenever I had her in my party and rested, she would still be tired or exhausted, no matter how much I rested. So I had to bench her, since she's no good when her stats are nuked into the crator by exhaustion.
octavia should have acid splash by default which has infinite uses. its buried in the spell menu so probably not seeing it.
why the FUCK wouldn't you take Jubilost
Finally done with Season of Bloom.
now go do your chores baron
>mandragora swarms
>try an Alchemist
>bombs do like 20 damage max while all my other characters do 100+ a turn
I don't get it.
Fast bombs and rapid shot, only problem is your burn through bombs really quickly. Use targeted admixture on single targets. Take force bombs for crowd control.
I had no idea the ''bow'' skills worked on bombs too, I'll try this shit again.
Be careful with that, not all the ranged feats work with bombs so double check before you take them. Only ones I know for sure work is rapid shot and precise strike.
>shadow moron casts shadow moron shit that roots and trips my entire party forever
God I hate autistic DND ruleset games.
>just debuff your enemies
>x save successful
>failed to overcome spell resistance
>
or you can spam rays and kill everything
why is the game like this?
>meanwhile enemies debuffs rape your squad for free since they're always 10-20 levels higher for no reason
l'epique
I mean, you have to overcome spell resistance with ray spells too.
Only a few touch attack offensive spells like snowball ignore it.
And other CC spells ignore spell resistance (like Grease).
If you can make one work, you also can the other
is BG2 worth playing without 1st? Is it any good? Similar to pathfinder?
BG1 is an excellent game that you should try. If you really don't want to, you can skip it since BG2 recaps a bit, but you'll miss out on character progression, character stories, and most importantly, tomes.
Ok, maybe i give it another try
Forgot to add, BG2 is fantastic and still holds up today. I kinda prefer 2nd ed to 3rd ed though. BG2+ToB is a great experience and a masterclass of gaining character power
Skipping bg1 is pleb shit. It's not a perfect game or anything but don't listen to people who tell you to skip it completely.
Almost finished my Paladin Kingmaker playthrough and I'm wondering what mythic path to take for WotR. Mechanics aside, what's the most fun/most satisfying/best story paths? Alternatively just give me your best to worst path rankings.
Devil and GD aren't good for sure
Angel
I like azata but angel is clearly the that got the most love. Lots of content and some great moments.
I enjoyed Lich and Angel. Lich is just cool and fun to play, and Angel is clearly the golden child that got all the love.
this is my ranking of the mythics that i have played.
>Angel>Azata>Demon>Legend>Demon>Lich
barbarian
how is the cavalier class? never tried it before
It's good.
Pure gendarme and cavalier of the paw are strong, multiclass potential with other riding classes to get feats and bonus abilities, dip with beast rider to get any pet you want.
You can also multi class with disciuple pf the pike for non-pet builds if you want to be quirky.
Learn to treat the pet as another party member and buff/raise accordingly, and you will do well.
Charges are still a bit janky, but much better than the first few months
Give me some cool Angel path build ideas that aren't just Paladin 20 or Two Hand Fighter 20
sword saint 20
Ray caster damage build. Sword of Heaven boost, and later sun marked per ray is good. And you have casts of bolt of justice too to throw around.
Shifter. Can be tanky, good offense and angel spells make you immune.
Cavalier. All the buffs , sword of heaven and abolish make the charge damage even juicier
Any good way to combine Cavalier with Cleric or Oracle so you can get the merged spellbook or is that pointless if you're going Cavalier?
If your majority levels are not the spellcasting class, kinda pointless.
i think you can get a a animal pet thanks to domain, don't remember if you can get a horse or not.
What's a good Order to pick for Cavalier?
sword
Cockatrice and sword are the best.
Lion is kinda ok if you turbocharge charisma a bit, and star in the same also if you wanna do bard-lite boosting, but I'd rather not rely on the cavalier giving a charisma based mode a few times per day to get a decent Morale bonus to attack/AC.
>no one ever brings up Trickster
Glad I picked this path, I'm sure it won't be garbage.
goody goody stuff always gets the attention cause 90% of people are just gonna do that
>90% of people pick the most predictable DBZ plot shit
Daemons > Demons
Meh. Just barely a step up from Yuggoloths
lich bros based angel cucks are seething yeah fuck them
shut up L(GBT)ich or i will cast heal on you.
>wanting to be God's jannie FOR FREE and try to ''save'' a bunch of ingrates
LMAO
i think you are confusing me with Aeon jannies, i am an Independent Angel that bows to no one, unllike you who has to beg & growl at his master feet to receive your Phylactery LMAO.
DODGE THIS!!!
come her skelly, i want to give you a hug
Good luck I'm behind 7 phylacteries
What is wrong with Aruefags?
>can't sexually correct Nerah
Yeah, this game is trash.
We were so close
Modfags are slacking on this one. Also
>wants muh revenge on everyone
>won't side with people that are capable of it
Fuck this bitch
anyone know if they're going to add more dlc?
They will.
yes. iirc they will do other dlcs after the citadel one too.
>Playing lawful stupid angel
>Constantly discipline and reprimand troops and execute criminals for even minor infractions
>Kill demons and cultists on sight not giving them any chance to twist and corrupt
>Game supports these choices with [Good] and [Lawful]
>Fuckbucket Woljif deserts abandoning his post and likely getting allies killed
>Has a demonic past and connections
>Is found consorting with cultists
>Is found leading a ritual to sacrifice my soldiers
>Kill Woljif [Evil]
Fuck you. I had a litany of reasons to kill him and the devs were too ass blasted that their super special OC was killed that they marked my alignment permanently with that shit.
He's literally trying to prevent the ritual, also he's not a crusader so he can't abandon his post
Aeon: "you will make up for your crimes by serving the crusade"
Also, he ran because he was scared and thought it was all over, when he tried to come back he was captured by those cultists. He didn't do anything criminal because he was a camp follower not an actual inlisted crusader. He tells you he knows a secret way into the grey garrison and will show it to you for his freedom.
should i kill wendu here? i was romancing her up to this point but she's getting way too uppity
if you are good character sure, don't let that traitorous mongrel live
you: ally yourself with a demon worshipping cannibal who murders her own kin and slanders righteous men
also you: wtf why is she so uppity and evil
Kill her before she kills shark girl, it's not too late. That's said, she killed those dudes because they were bad mouthing you. If you do anything here other then speak privately the romance is over.
Rate my monk build.
I think galfry is cute
Is mommy lamasthu happy if i am a swam that walks or there are not meaningful interactions?
Rovagug likes it at least
Why is this game so shilled here?
It's obviously a psyop by chechens .People wanting to talk about games never happens here
Russian psyops to make us think Demons are cute
There's a new DLC supposed to be in the works so it's getting shilled. I don't mind, I like the game, but it's obviously shilling.
There is no 'supposedly', season pass 2 was confirmed months ago and the first dlc has been out for a month. At least read up on the things you shitpost about a little
Have they given some release date? I want to do another playtrough but at this point i will wait if it's near.
I don't think so. Also, every piece of DLC Owlcat has released has been fucking terrible, for both games, so chances are there's no point in waiting. It'll be shit as well.
Youtube review gave the shills an excuse to escape their various containment boards.
This is the tail end of it since they're pretty obnoxious with constantly bumping multiple 12+ hour old threads.
>Barely one thread every three days
>There are now six zelda threads and four street fighter ones. Also genshin and fire emblem threads refresh by the hour,
Yeah surely shills love pathfinder.
Putin asked me personally to shill the game on Ganker v
It's a good game :/
... I'm transgender btw, don't know if that matters.
>chuds are angry the game is being discussed
Makes sense
I just use the threads to bait Aruefags
By the looks of it, that only creates more. Just like the Camposting, which makes people hate her even more. Both always seemed like false-flagging, considering their reverse effects
any mods that remove morons and gays yet?
What class should I pick for a primarily melee focused Angel and Azata? Probably gonna do 2 playthroughs at minimum of WOTR since im currently doing my 2nd one on Kingmaker while I wait for Owlcat to drop all the DLC content and stop breaking the game. Also please let it be something that uses armor, dont wanna be a gay running around with robes.
Mutation warrior or two handed warrior from fighter, mad dog or instinctual rager from barb, Gendarme or cavalier of the paw cavalier, Sword Saint or Arcane rider magus, Primalist or bloodrider Bloodrager, Vanilla or Martyr Paladin, Demonslayer or Freebooter Ranger, Deliverer or Spawn Slayer.
All will work pure class with strength martial, half of them use heavy armor.
To expand on that,rogue/viv builds, crusader cleric, oracle builds, warpriest etc also work, but they either feel more underwhelming, need more dips or have too much spellcasting power.
Azata needs a while to get going for martials unless you have midnight isles dlc for a certain broken ring (but that matrters mroe for higher difficulties)
for angel it's Crusader angel and for Azata it's mutation warrior or 16 Vivasectionist/4 instinct warrior
>dont wanna be a gay running around with robes.
why? they are strongest armors in the game :). you can also try Bloodrager or melee demonslayer too i guess
just use Visual Adjustments and put yourself in armor
Is Druid fun to play?
Not that fun because of how vidya works and limited spell list, but the mythic spell list and abilities plus loremaster prestige allow to fix some things.
>a wholesome, kind, loving variant of the best love interest in all of gaming
I can get behind that.
all dmeon girls are cute and wholesome
I kind of want to try a prestige class but I can't tell which classes benefit most from them. I assume going Aldori Defender into Swordlord makes sense, but what starting class works best for say a Dragon Disciple or a Student of War?
For duelist, either rogue, aldori or sword saint.
Swordlord is for aldori or rogue/thug who picked dueling sword
Hellknight goes with Paladin, fighter or disciple of the pike if you go for 3 to 8 levels.. 1 level dips for smite chaos go for more.
Signifer is kinda pointless, but can be thrown on clerics with no loss, and various martial spellcaster builds.
Dragon disciple is for any spontaneous caster who goes melee and wanst stat boosts(4 levels).
Elkdritch knight can be used to boost bab of various classes (like eldritch scoundrel for example) or make a wizard into martial, but they require decent planning.
Loremaster can be used with any spellcasting class well. Amazing value.
Stalwart defender is for TSS or a few other heavy armor builds, where you devote everything to it. Kinda boring.
Arcane trickster is for ray casters (usually wizard/sorcerer base, but you can get creative).
Winter witch is good normally, but ascendant element kinda kills appeal. Can be fun for a caster shamn or different witch flavor.
Mystic theurge can work if you pick angel or lich and merge spellbooks with one class, but it is too much of a pain to handle.
Student of war requires too much work and investment to make mind over metal work. I guess a smart fighter build or swoord saint could work, but meh.
Do not bother with assassin.
>but what starting class works best for say a Dragon Disciple
sorcerer? never tried Student of war but Loremaster works great for Spellcasters and Edlritch knight for wizard or sorcerer.
Is monk the best class for being a unarmed fighter? I'd rather not be a lawfag but Brawler doesn't exist as a class it seems.
It's the only class for it.
WOTR is so disappointing in so many ways. I pretty much sped through Act 6 using Toy Box's Kill Everything On Screen button - the game had lost all challenge completely and I was so bored. Owlcat's approach to encounter density is baffling and utterly tiresome after 50 hours, let alone 100+. I#m not even going to comment on the rage-inducing 'strategic layer' that the game has.
What's the matter anon? You don't like having 20 extra enemies on screen and all of them getting inflated stats?
We're all aware that Devil is an underdeveloped path with very little content, but is it at least any fun/strong mechanically?
Hellfire ray at will IS fun.And ssince you retain the previous mythic ranks, you have bane or zippy magic to help.
Plus emulating sword of heaven/demon rage basic buffs feels nice. Hell seals are an interesting diea, but awkward execution
The trial you are subjected is an interesting scene (as aeon at least)
You also get a banger theme and one of the best speeches to rouse the army.
But that is it.
You get few unique abilities overall to play with, and not enough scenes/unique reactions to make it worth it. Late game paths are lame overall, but legend has more unique reactions and fun things to do iwth 20 extra levels, and swarm is an extreme departure on events and npc reactions at least
Like dragon talents.
>Spend 30 minutes creating a character
>Play for 10 minutes
>Realize that its woke shit.
>Proceed to uninstall
As nearly every modern game nowadays, the amount of woke shit in it can be counted on one hand and is so superficial that it might as well amount to nothing while its main goal is to pander to the screeching minority without alienating the rest of the community too much.
tldr Ignore those few initial woke shit dialogues in the very beginning of the game. There's literally no more of it later down the road.
There's a reason why any woke stuff is mostly concentrated in the very beginning of the game as that's what the "journalist" and tw*tterfags base their opinions on.
It's a discord raider, every woke post on wrath is the same in all the thread, just ignore those.
Really? i might give it another try then but i don't know the game screams of feminist garbage to me. How long before i can get rid of the moron bitch warrior anyway?
After the prologue to dismiss, chapter 3 to kill
until act 3 where she intervene if you try to kill her friend unjustly , you can also just tell her to leave and go pick another commander if you like.
I was playing Ulbrig's dlc yesterday and just now I realized that the WW gays wanted the shard of aroden's shield to have one more charge for Tar-Baphon's tactical nuke.
>Flying enemies incoming
>Hide in a cave with a hole in the ceiling
>Put your frontline with their backs to said hole so the enemy can easily get behind your frontline
>Also give up a strategic location just as a test to see if you can trust the commander instead of just judging him based on his leadership and choices over the first few months of the campaign
Regill is a dumb fuck.
Lorefags, shouldn't kitsune be digitigrades, i.e. stand on its toes like canines or felines do (see the image)?
I was curious so I looked it up and found conflicting information from PF where they are sometimes shown with plantigrade (human) feet while other times with digitigrade feet.
inb4 furry
I simply wonder about the inconsistency. Making them digitigrades would make them more unique from other races which I don't see as a bad thing. I can see them however not making them digitigrades so they wouldn't have to worry about making a different model(s) for feet/legs.
I wanted to try this game out but I fear all the stats will melt my brain.
I've played grim dawn and Divinity original sin 2, will that be enough or is it not approachable to newcomers of the genera?
Cam Cam bros our girl is still the best girl
I just wanted a comfy RPG but everything is a minmaxing nightmare. I love building characters but I'm not a fan of the feat system in pathfinder and every fight being stacking 800 buffs until your attributes are in the hundreds.
Maybe I'll just run through the game once on lower difficulty.
Just choorge bwo
What kind of stuff are you having trouble with? The PF feat system is a bit of a mess between feat chains and feat groups. The game UI only exacerbates it. You shouldn't really need to go all out buffing unless you're playing on Core+ but bubblebuffs help a lot.
I feel you.
Use toybox to tweak the gameplay to your liking.
Such as resetting spells, HP etc.
I recall there's also a way to create a template for applying all buffs or something along those lines.
The stacking is retarded and mandatory over normal difficulty why the fuck they don't add a toybox autobuffer in the main game?
I asked the same thing myself. A lot of combat prep is a chore, especially when you've to do it over and over again for basically the entirety of the game.
I can only assume that some people enjoy that kind of thing.
Yeah ok you put it selectable so everyone is happy. But it's not like a nude mod or something nobody asked, everyone is knowledgeable of how much an assle it is. With the angel cleric i had 14 buffs to use and those were just the aoe.
Shit writing company.
>decide to romance both
>what the fuck I got the threesome ending?!?!
Are you retarded?
>interacting with regonar
why?
What's the issue?
Good thread, anons.
See you in the next one.
kILL CAMELLIA