>fails to defeat you every single time
>becomes obsessed with the commander
>enormous hate-sex potential that could grow into love like it did with her lilitu gf
>ends up at your mercy after being thrown away by her lord
>can only kill her or grant her a wholesome /u/ ending by sparing her
Are owlkeks serious?
She constantly teases and taunts the KC for most of the game, and we can't make her work for us or reform her into a companion?
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Yeah, it's an Owlcat game after all, there's no such thing as virgins to Russians since all their women are whores.
We need to fund an indie or Japanese dev team that will make a based RPG like Baldur Gate or Mass Effect with waifus but not with a comeplete Mary Sue MC. All those Paizo or Owlcat or Larian games are fucking cuckshit with annoying girl bosses and morons. I have enough.
This guy actually thinks CHARNAME and Shepard aren't mary sues
they were based as much as JC Denton or Nameless One, the problem with RPG are usually the NPCs and story
Jap studios are incapable of making RPGs, their bugman brains don't allow them to conceive roleplaying and you are a filthy weeb
They need western Chuds as writers. MOst Japanese just take inspiration from the same bunch of Final Fantasy or Hero Quest games and all those games feel the same. Same inventory system, same generic universe with pig orcs and titty elves, same turn based systems with same save the world quests. Its a different kind of garbage. West has the problem with woke garbage, Japan with lack of creativity garbage.
Lorewise, can someone explain the point of a Warpriest? I don't see why they're needed or even exist when Paladins and Clerics already exist.
Clerics:
>Can cast spells up to level 9, including but not limited to resurrection, and the healing of ANY wound -- whether that be a missing limb, a curse, blindness, negative levels, paralysis etc.
>the ability to invoke a faction of their god's power through domains
>powerful melee capabilities through their divine buffs. Ironically they're better martials than "Warpriests" because they have superior melee skills such as frightful aspect and legendary proportions
Paladins
>blessed with Damage Reduction, making them literally invincible versus low tier evil entities
>Can heal any injury or illness with Lay on Hands
>Can invoke the power of their god to bless themself with superior reflexes, strength, and speed (Smite Evil). Later they can evoke this power on their entire party (Mark of Justice)
>Immune to diseases, sickness, and poison
Warpriest
>you hit harder with your weapon because of sacred weapon
>your armor is slightly better because of sacred armor
>you don't get damage reduction
>your deity WON'T let you invoke their power (Smite Evil or Domains)
>you don't get the fancy heals
>you don't get the immunities
>you don't get level 7, 8, or 9 spells
It seems like the gods trained their Warpriests wrong as a joke
you get to call yourself a warpriest
>lorewise
Who cares?
Most gods can't have Paladins because of alignment restrictions. Cult Leader and Feral Champion are also pretty fun.
Crusader cleric is a better warpriest.
>Most gods can't have Paladins because of alignment restrictions
https://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/alternate-classes/antipaladin/
>They make pacts with fiends, take the lives of the innocent, and put nothing ahead of their personal power and wealth. Champions of evil, they often lead armies of evil creatures and work with other villains to bring ruin to the holy and tyranny to the weak
that still doesn't cover any non-Lawful Good or Chaotic Evil god
Paladins don't have a limit on the god they can worship. The official unofficial rule is that you can be within one step of their god. So you can have Lawful Neutral god Paladin and a Neutral Good god Paladin. The Paladin themselves must just be lawful good. Also there is the Tyrant class anti-Paladin which lets you be Lawful Evil. So that covers the evil spectrum and leaves only Chaotic good and True Neutral without Paladins.
the practical reason is it lets you give divine spells to purely martial classes with low wis if you wanted to do that for some reason
hybrids were a mistake, since they open a wider door to minmaxing, and don't provide any new RP potential
>the practical reason is it lets you give divine spells to purely martial classes with low wis
But even an inquisitor is better if you wanna go that route. You get the same spellbook, domains to buff your melee prowess, bonuses to Initiative, solo tactics, judgements to further boost your melee prowess, AND bane weapon
I literally don't see why a Warpriest exists, literally feels like a Cleric who dropped out of school before he finished his training
Blessings are good in the tabletop. They seem particularly ass in teh game since they have no mythic support.
Sacred weapon buff matters more as well, a stream of +4s of whatever you want is not the standard.
Heavy armor boost AC is also relevant in the tabletop.
Finally, in a prebuff setting, quickened self buffs are useless, but in tabletop scenarios, it is very convenient. And compared to inquisitor, fighter feats set you up for melee aster. Having greater weapon focus and specialization is nice.
A warpriest gets the ability to Quicken Spell buffs on himself with no increased caster level as well as add lasting enhancement bonuses to his armor and weapon. An inquisitor can use judgement and bane, sure, but the rest of it has to come from pre-buffing or casting spell-mid combat. Hybrids classes are simply more powerful as built than base or core.
Warpriest is a hybrid class. Basically it's easy mode for gays who need swift action self-buffs, free AC and weapon enhancements along with the ability to self-heal. A sane GM wouldn't allow them at his table unless you're playing with complete newbies or the power level of the game is something like Wrath, especially with Owlkek's retarded number bloat.
>lorewise
>goes on to talk about class mechanics
You're retarded
How am I retarded? All of the features I listed are class features that the clases can canonically use.
Damage reduction and immunities are REAL features of the narrative. As are domains and spellcasting.
A level 20 Paladin is literally immune to the melee blows of weak individual.
A level 20 monk is literally immortal.
A level 8-9 Cleric can usually start warping reality in their favor with domains
You are an austitic retard disregarding class features as less important and not understanding that the way the game works and lack of support does not mean they are not actually potent.
A warpriest will simply work better in many cases compared to an inquisitor with the tabletop encounters.
>the way the game works and lack of support does not mean they are not actually potent.
>A warpriest will simply work better in many cases compared to an inquisitor with the tabletop encounters.
Now you're the only one talking about gameplay. I was talking about lorewise, anon. They have zero reason to exist
They have as much reason to exist as inquisitor.
They are universal martial oriented divine followers. Inquisitors need to do some skill checks too.
Buddy, you asked for a lore reason as to why warpriests exist. Then you go on to explicitly discuss crunch mechanics as to why warpriest doesn't need to exist.
If you can't understand the difference between the two then you are autistic, not retarded.
>crunch mechanics
They aren't crunch mechanics, anon. The class makes no sense.
Why do Paladins and Clerics get all these fancy ass buffs, blessings, and benefits from their deity, while the Warpriest don't? Lorewise, it makes no sense for the warpriest to be treated so poorly by their diety when they're are their deities' champion.
Why doesn't the Warpriest get domains, smite evil, immunities, DR, advanced spellcasting, or the illness purging heals? It makes no sense fron a narrative standpoint. You're literally a crippled version of the other clases lorewise
You undermining sacred weapon/armor and blessings does not meant they are not literally blessed, anon. And they also get 6th level spellcatsing, that is a boon in itself.
If you feel inquisitor are supported, than warpriests are also supported.
You are just being a retard who goes 'that does not count/not good enough' with arbitrary standards
>You undermining sacred weapon/armor and blessings does not meant they are not literally blessed, anon
But that's all worthless compared to the blessings a Paladin or Cleric gets
Yes, where we return to your retarded 'b-b-b-ut this does not count'.
It matters in the power scaling of the table top, much less so in the game especially with lack of mythic support.
It obviously matters lorewise to have your god give literal blessings, ability to channel and make your weapon more potent.
You can chimpout all you want, everyone else gets it
Lorewise paladins are grouped by orders. The orders follow one or some deity. Not all the deities have orders. Prists are priests but sometimes that bunch of undeads need the mace before the pray, here is the warpriest.
shitty paladins for Chaotic guys i suppose
Because the game is shallow as fuck, they want quantity over quality for "roleplaying" - never mind that classes don't make you feel like what they supposed to represent.
I ask this about so many classes in pathfinder. So many of them seem to be classes they tried to forcefully create a niche for by taking another class, making it shitter and then adding on "points". Magus arcane points, inquisitor judgement points, warpriest sacred weapon points. How do they justify hexes being different than spells anyway?
Like, a cleric gets their power from a god, shamans get their powers from "spirits" and oracles get their powers from... (???). All that is different from witches who are not wizards but... (???).
>oh no, how are spell like abilities different from spells
>Serving something closer to domains/concepts instead of one god? How can it work
There are redundant classes they created for streamlining and killing multiclassing, but you are also a retard
Yes.
How is a "spell ability" different from spell casting? How is serving a domain not just make you a weird cleric?
Scream and cry all you like, 5E did all this better.
just think of Witches as 5E Warlocks before Warlocks existed.
They share very little with Warlocks mechanically.
they both gain their powers from a pact with an otherworldly patron.
5E Warlocks are just 3.5 Warlocks with some of Pathfinder's Magus and Witch rolled in as archetypes
>How is spell ability different from spell casting
That is a distinction hat has existed for over 30 years, you being unable to parse it is irrelevant.
>How do they justify hexes being different than spells anyway?
Hexes actually make sense. They're at will spells, which is super useful in a vatican magic setting
So i can play a lawful evil holyman
There is no "point" in terms of lore. It's just a different set of mechanics you can use to play another warrior priest.
Warpriests exist so I can spec Sosiel into a Warpriest, kick/kill Seelah and hire a cute cleric gf to be the buff/healbot in a Good aligned party. That's the lore.
she didn't Repent for her Crimes so i will drop bolt of Justice on her eyeless face. Rememeber kids Mercy for Those who repent for their Crimes, not everyone deserves Redemption
Outsiders in general cannot be changed unless via divine intervention ie Aru. So you always smite outsiders that are smiteable. Same for undead.
Please stop talking
>Outsiders in general cannot be changed unless via divine intervention
Nocticula literally redeems herself in the tabletop to become a neutral and chaotic good entity
there's also the son of that Devil, Ragathiel, whom became a Lawful Good archangel
>focuses on the dudes Dad rather than his mother who is literally called The Fertile Flame
gay alert.
>Nocticula
Demon Lords are basically just weaker gods and nearly divine so they can break reality.
>Ragathiel
A child of an Elemental and a Devil. This is such an outlier to begin with since he was not a Devil to begin with and was some sort of... thing.
>child of an Elemental and a Devil
How did they.... i mean... who sticked what in where?
Devil stuck his penis in the fire.
I know its stupid because it's magic and shit but how does demon sperm fertilize something that is pure fire? Seriously i would be a wacky scientist just to understand this shit if i lived in that world.
They are semi-divine beings, they don't have to explain shit.
She can take a humanoid form. Also outsiders are literally basic essence of an alingment held together by will.
You know how demons are made out of pure elemental evil (and law?)
Fire elementals are made out of pure elemental fire.
Same principle. If one can fuck the other can too.
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Devil have Immunity to fire anon
I already posted an outsider that changed alone retard, stop doubling down.
man that ragathiel fella is pretty hot
Look, if angels can fall, hell half of one's in the Kenebres' magic rock fell as well as that "angel" chick in Nocticulaville, then why can't demons ascend?
Speaking off, why can't I fall on the Angel path? Since KC is not tied to any god, effectively being his own boss as angel, shouldn't there be a divergence in the path that lets us fall? Black feathery wings would be cool
Because Angel is Owlcat's special good boy path
Guess they didn't want/have time to add that, but at the same time Azata and Aeon can effectively fall into being a devil so who the fuck knows
how do you play wrath of the righteous and actually think succubi are capable of love?
Desna twisted one into being able to feel and love
so technically they can
At that point you may as well brainwash whoever else into it since you are effectively destroying the original "person."
I see your shitpost for this thread will be about this huh
What was the previous one?
Sure, why not
>Goddess of Freedom
>Brainwash.
ask Arue again why She wanted to Repent Speed reader-kun.
>At that point you may as well brainwash whoever else into it since you are effectively destroying the original "person."
Very well then! Using my mythic powers and six fresh nahyndrian crystals I'll build device capable of flooding the abyss with power of Elysium and then... ALL THE CG SUCCUBUS GFS WILL BE MINE!
I mean, you can tell Pharasma to go fuck herself and negate her judgement so that isn't even that far fetched by comparison really
by being virgin waifufags
they can. Angel KC is married to one
Alright, but you cant exactly get god to minddestroy every demon you want to put your penis in and hope they eventually become an azata instead.
>Alright, but you cant exactly get god to minddestroy every demon you want to put your penis in and hope they eventually become an azata instead.
that's what the sixth crusade on the Abyss will be About, Total Demon Death through Breeding from good Outsiders
Enjoy a planar war where you and your redeemed Succ gf will be forced to fight the forces of all the evil planes together until you and all the blame put on (you) because of your foolish ambitions
Cope. We'll go full Gurren Lagann and keep evolving until all the evils that threat mankind are destroyed
ROW ROW FIGHT THA POWA
>he thinks i will use Angels or Azatas
Lmao, imagine not using your fertile immortal succ wife to create an entire Army
>what man has sex with a bug alien
>creates asian viltrumites
the joke writes itself
>set off Planar War
>River Styx floods
>Birth a new Oinodaemon
>Proteans laugh in the distance as reality crumbles and Rovagug wakes up
The only winners in a planar war are the biggest assholes in the setting and every big event like what's happening in Wrath is just the planes playing chicken and one side blinking.
>Breeding a bunch of children that are nothing more than tools built to get killed in a pointless war
Nice father you are
it's not pointless if i get to destroy Chaos once and for all.
So you're going to kill your wife too?
aaah i see what you are trying to do Demon, trying to convince me that CG is also as bad as CE but your tricks won't work on me
Hey you're the one who said he wants to kill chaos, chaos is chaos, good or evil
they are bugs
she can get married in the thousands of the knight commander's stomachs
1. You don't marry her
2. She doesn't end up living with you in any ending
The Citadel DLC will fix it.
that House is mine anon, She is living in my House while i go on Adventure with Daeran and mating press her when i return
True good ending arue, full romance, secret ending.
You know the secret romance ending is the same as the regular one right
That's an Azata though.
She's still a succubus, what she stops being is a demon
>Befriending a turncoat demon that directly caused dissent betwen desnans and Kenabres inquisitor's
>Being tricked by a filthy demon to kill a hag rival for her
>letting the chaotic demon live after she lied and tried to protect a D*snan grave
>Helping a horrible demon steal memories and dreams from others
>Actively promoting an incompetent demon to not do her literal work, rape
>Promoting arson and murder and torture with the chaotic demon
>Holding hands with the evil demon
>Falling for the tricky demon's lies about love and peace
>Preventing proper judgement to fall on the corrupt demon by letting her ascend to elysium
>Living in peace with the terrifying demon after stopping the worldwound
>mating pressing the evil demon to create filthy abominations
>Starting a family with the abominable demon
Utterly Disgusting and abhorrent. i hope none of you do that
>that directly caused dissent betwen desnans and Kenabres inquisitor's
You meant, almost saved the city but since Hurlun is a retard it didn't work.
Regill would have killed the desnans, but he would have also had the wardstone be checked up at least 3 times by signifiers and priests.
Why are you replying to an ironic pasta seriously
>You meant, almost saved the city
but they wouldn't be able to do anything, anon. you can like desnans, but pretending like they had it all under control and only the evil patriarchy stopped them is quite pathetic
In the absolute best case scenario the city could have been evacuated going around partying
>paddel
All demons and outsiders get the rope, no exceptions
>succubi are capable of love
Both succubi and lilitu are capable of love canonically in the game.
Awww.
Too bad i always kill her. We fuck or you die, she picked the last.
>game
>canonically
jej
terrible writing. Im sure you can find some source in arushaelaes dialogue about how bullshit this is.
Minagho and Chivarro being in love is something that gets brought up in act 4.
>She constantly teases and taunts the KC for most of the game
Which is why you can do the same to her later on before killing her
This isn't a dating sim game retard
gibs build for this portrait
starting witch 1 with improved initiative
>no replies
sorry anon, creativity on this board is only limited to sunday drawthreads
more like no one wants to do anon's homework for him.
typing words on a forum is homework to you? damn, life must be hard
Sorcerer with devil bloodline
>fails to defeat you every single time
She won before your turned on cheat codes and you know it.
>pic
post the full comic niggy what is this cropped shit doing here
Everything is in cyкa блять. I have no Idea what they're saying in the comic.
cyкa блять game.
the joke is that lann is colorblind
haha, the lizard has poor eyesight
*Hits pipe* I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than being a golden dragon. Honestly think about it rationally. You are lacking content, interesting characters, losing good mythic abilities, and have a shitty mentor for at least the last important chapter of the game solely to be disappointed you didn't stay your original path. All that hard work you put into your character- upgrading abilities, looking forward to your path's exclusive content, jumping through flower fields, putting up with Hal's bullshit. All of it has one simple result: You traded out a cool mythic path for a lacking one. Your mythic abilities are bugged and suck, and you have no content to look forward to. As a man who went golden dragon you are literally dedicating at least 10 more hours of your life simply to slug through a game with a path the devs cucked. It is the ultimate and final cuck. Think about it logically.
OH DESNA HE'S SO LITTLE
>be romancing arue
>queen wants to speak with me
>she tells this in an almost broken voice
Oh lads, I don't know what to do.
I can't abandong my succuwife but she IS somewhat cute....
she is not cute, anon
don't be fooled
It's not an illusion spell, that's actually her body, she doesn't age under the orchid elixir just like an elf.
The lich portrait was retarded honestly.
what an Ugly hag, using half of Mendev GDP for Beauty potions.
>Actually having doubts to begin with
If you know what she does later, then you're a retard and too far gone
If you don't, then I hope you're prepared
Of course I know what she's about to do in approximately 10 in game minutes, yeet me to the fucking abyss. But she's a woman, can you really blame a woman for a woman moment?
I can when even the most evil psycho in the game ends up dumping you because she's just that afraid that she'll end up killing you
>But she's a woman, can you really blame a woman for a woman moment?
yes. Somehow a psycho like Cam cares more about you than Galfrey
just play further anon, you will like her bitchyCharacter more
She joins the Azata army of friendship if you offer it and becomes a spy for the Azata in the demon realm
OH MY GOD WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAACE?
>can only kill her or grant her a wholesome /u/ ending by sparing her
I raised her lesbian lover and had her do the killing.
You can also let Staunton kill her. In which case he decides he's all vengeanced out and drops double-dead.
Thanks, I was considering bard as well. But may look into them if I replay.
DEX or STR for shield bash antics? Heavy or light shield?
Strength. You likely don't have enough feats to make finesse work alongside the shield bash and weapon focus lines.
Would it work if I went Fighter 20? DEX with TWF. I have TTT which adds some relevant feats but you need armor training to qualify for them.
If you have dex 15, you get he last WTF feat with belts, so you are fine.
Still, when you do multiple attacks, you like the extra damage that sneaks+study target or sense vitals+favored enemy do.
Weapon training and weapon specialization are also good of course
If you go fighter, then you must start woth 15 Dex, and then wear a +2/+4 dex belt to quality for the rest of the feats.
I really wouldn't recommend it, be your DPS will be far lower.
Delivers for example get holy damage + sneak attacks on every hit.
And Demonslayers get massive bonuses to damage versus demons, on top of lead blade and sense vitals, both of which greatly increases your dps
Uninstall TTT and use Dark Codex instead so you can get this.
you can use both
There's no point when Dark Codex makes TTT irrelevant.
No it doesn't
It absolutely does
it absolutely does not, Dark Codex doesn't even touch heavy armor like TTT does
The heavy armor feats in TTT are absolute fucking shit and do nothing to address the problem of robe tanking being superior.
Armor tanking does not need to be superior to pajama tanking, it just needs to scale decently and deal with the enemies without needing retarded dips and making you unable to do anything else
>all that natural armor stacking
At least try to follow the discussion.
STR. Go with Slayer, Deliverer, or Demonslayer as you class because they can take the Two Weapon Fighting feats without the dex requirements
Strenght slayer imo. You get TWF feats without heavy dex investing, I go light shield because the +1average damage on a bash is not worth the -2 to attack for oversized offhand
Her VA is also amazing. Unlike Arue-whatever her name is.
Demons are cute!
forgot the pic
Too bad she doesn't have more content, but that's how shit goes.
CARLOOOOSS
made for Big Trickster Cock
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Her armor looks awful.
The rest of the image is decent.
Your face looks awful.
I want to roleplay a trickster CE, basically an evil clown and i want to importune and make life the most miserable possible for everyone.
Is possible to roleplay trickster as this? Fun but fun only for ME, and im really sick?
If yes, what is the most interesting class which sinergize better with trickster? Also male or female if there is any difference on the quality of misery i can bring?
Also there is a clown jester trasmog easily available? I really want to insert in the role.
Yes, I did. Romance Camellia to be absolute assholes together.
Bring Daeran with you always.
Bring regill since every joke needs a good punchline.
Human Male Vivsectionist.
The best joke is to romance everyone possible, then kill them as a joke, then have a nice day at the end, as a joke.
So just do a Swarm playthrough + romance?
For reason that, personally, i can't understand, you can't romance as swarm. I mean there is always space for love even in the hive. Fucking nurgle had the fairy gf, why can't i?
Cause nurgle spreads disease while you eat immediately
Being a swarm isn't just a prank, bro.
It is
Best pranks are elaborate
You even eat yourself at the end, effectively killing yourself
Follow Daeran's council advice, which is just him wanting to prank people. There's quite a few trickster options that you could consider evil. Causing strife among people with good intentions just for fun.
>There's quite a few trickster options that you could consider evil
Hmmm not very fun then. I know the core path is CN but i saw there is splicing both CE and CG.
I mean a LOT of your ''trickery'' is just baleful polymophing things.
Demon mass to bird, mind controlling mask to clown mask, aasimar rapist and torturer into feeble aasimar woman etc. Most of them are pretty fucking nasty (except the aasimar guy, get fucked (literally, probably to death))
Well there is also deciding not to side with either dude in the Colosseum quest and instead blending them together into an insane chimera with both personalities at the same time.
That one was my favourite as it was entirely out of the blue and feels like true existential dread.
The fat cunt is happy about it because he's a mentally deranged asshole while the ''loyal'' and reasoned guy is absolutely fucking mad at it, i agree this one was nice
I'm currently doing trickster. Not far, but most of the options so far have been causing strife on the good side.
You're trolling on behalf of another demon lord and you do shit like turning people into mirrors. The final joke is permanently and irreversibly fucking everything up.
Classes for this feel?
Vivisectionist -> Swarm
Installed tabletop tweaks because i wanted to play griffon shifter (fucking mad that my favorite mythic beast was a companion only thing)
I'm thinking on doing the classic trickster into legend, but not sure what classes to go after trickster
First choice was paladin for that HOMM3 noble griffin shit, smite and more
Option B Fighter, mutation being obviously the better choice
Option C was Barbarian, did a bit of testing and sadly you don't get to use the extra claw attackj from beast totem while shifted. Still cool.
Option 4 Demonslayer Ranger, pretty basic but effective
Option 5 Deliverer Slayer. Again basic, but whatever
Primalist Bloodrager(celestial) with Paladin and Gravesinger axe.
>Installed tabletop tweaks
LOL
so?
You got a problem with it?
no i think it's funny when gullible retards get tricked into using that garbage.
Tell me more, come on, tell the class what's the problem here. Is it no more nature whisper + dragon monk stacking?
literally yes. that mod fixes several retarded owlkek house rules that made the game broken, so dipkeks are mad
I don't know why when it's entirely modular and you can just turn things on or off as you see fit
It always boils down to
>WWWWAAAAHHHH I CAN'T BEAT IT WITHOUT EXPLOITS
What all does TTTs add? I've thought about downloading it.
A lot of support for armors, for one. some good bug fixes, extra mythic feats and ability, random feats.
Somestacking removed like the aforementionned dragon monk + nature whisper, or crane style working with two-handed weapons/twf
I feel like the increased choice and flexibility increase your power level a bit but it's not egregious. Less dipping is really nice
>I feel like the increased choice and flexibility increase your power level
It's the opposite since TTT doesn't touch enemies at all. You end up substantially weaker and need to metagame even harder.
DC Casters literally don't work without expanded arsenal on the higher difficulties. You're literally losing 30+ DC when you remove it from the game.
You're allowed to be terrible, but don't parrot your skill issue like it's the gossip shitter.
Your dc spells literally will not work on the higher difficulties without expanded arsenal.
Do not argue with me, you shit eating, subhuman retard
MY SPELL DON'T INSTANTLY KILL DEMON LORDS????
WHAT THE FUCCCCCKKKKKKKKK that's dumb i'm sad 🙁
(you are a retard)
DC Casters literally do not work without expanded arsenal, you subhuman, shit eating retards
You play on easy so this doesn't matter to you, but some people play on real difficulties
Having to use mods is literally the same as putting it on easy.
>pick any option that helps overcome SR
>find enemy
>overcome their SR with instakill spell
Now this is high skill gameplay
>SR
confirmed for a shit eating retard that doesn't know what he's talking about. expanded arsenal buffs DC, not spell penetration
>I'm a shitter that needs mods to make my instakill builds work properly instead of just playing the game
I don't think you realise that you look like a pissant child.
Not an argument
DC Casters use spells other than weird and Phantasmal killer. You would know this if you weren't a subhuman retard that doesn't play on easy
We're talking about people who play on real difficulties like unfair, you subhuman shit eater.
Kys furfag.
It's hilarious that you keep saying retarded gay shit like this and expect people to agree with you.
You are abusing a bug because you are not good. It's ok, we expect nothing more from retards like you.
The "person" you are talking to is a spastic who spends 24/7 in /vg/ arguing that any build that can't kill Deskari in one turn on unfair is shit. The word autism gets thrown around a lot here but in this case it's 1000% true.
It's not a bug.
Shit-eating animal filth. Owlkeks officially use expanded arsenal in their Nenio build to boost the spell DC of a magic school by +6 strictly via feats, which is impossible without expanded arsenal (elemental focus does not boost the whole school).
You can seethe, you can mald, you can dilate, you can bleat like a battered bitch, but you're never changing the inarguable fact that Owlkeks use expanded arsenal to boost spell DCs beyond was is normally possible. Cope.
oh look, the mentally defective gay really need his little crutches because playing somethig that doesn't 1 turn delete bosses is too difficult 🙁
Tell me, retard, if Expanded Arsenal is an exploit... [dramatic pause] then why does Owlkek themselves use it in their official Nenio build, mmm?
Look at picrelated Nenio, you shiteating retard. This is the official Owlkek Inevitable Excess default Nenio you get, if you make a new character. Do you see it? The +6 Conjuration spell DC bonus Owlkeks arranged for themselves with Expanded Arsenal, it's there and it's mocking you. You cannot get more than +4 spell DC without Expanded Arsenal.
You see, shiteater, I was right all along. Expanded Arsenal has been a legit mechanic all along and Owlkek using it in their official build proves it.
Whatever exploit your shitbuild relies on, it's getting fixed. Sooner or later, it's getting fixed. Expanded Arsenal, though? Working as intended. Any DC caster build without Expanded Arsenal is a suboptimal shitbuild.
Seethe. Cope. Dilate.
Now that this shitfest is out of the way, I can go back to actually playing the game.
tldr
It's an exploit, fagtard. it's ok to be bad, we didn't expect anything from you anyway
>real difficulties
>like unfair
Core is the real difficulty, unfair isn't even fucking balanced to be beaten in the first place.
What clued you in, anon?
Maybe that the difficulty is called 'unfair'?
DC staking is perfectly fine without abusing expended arsenal with 25 school focuses. Eat shit moron.
I play on core and never use the EA exploit, my DC spells work fine but I never expect to one tap endgame challenges with weird. I'm pretty sure the point of unfair is to make the challenge harder so obviously they would make some enemy's not get one tapped with 100% probability
>I play on core
So your opinion is irrelevant. Stopped reading here
>i don't remember every using Expanded Arsenal
Because you're playing on easy mode. Stopped reading here
>core is easy mode.
okay then bro, i did a angel playthrough on Hard and i think Hard is a shit difficulty.but if you enjoy then you do you i guess
i don't remember every using Expanded Arsenal, I just picked Fey+devil bloodline, Favorable magic+ best jokes and could pretty much stunlock the entire map and dominate big demon boys with just simple spell focus
you can just enable the option if you want to play on your special snowflake difficulty that requires minmax munchkining
this creature is not minmaxing. Its literal bug abuse.
>bug abuse.
see, you shiteating retard
Expanded Arsenal has Owlkek's blessing
Playing a 2 handed melee druid doesn't work too at the highest difficulty, what's your solution? What about weapon finesse paladins ? Summoner mages? Obviously a large amount of things doesn't work on a difficulty named Unfair, what did you expect?
DC caster are still fine against the chaff but if you expect to just roll over to deskari and weird him instantly then tough luck, go back to daring or whatever
when is the last DLC dropping
I want to replay it but I want a definitive version
August at best
>Three months for them to release two DLCs
lol
Kill all Owlkek writers
Kill most vidya writers
Areelu's kid was created after Aroden raped Areelu when he personally participated in killing demon cultists and Echo of descari. By ascending you take your father place as the humanity god who will lead them into the future.
Legend path is for fatherless cucks
My dad would be proud that I made the traitor of humanity suffer.
go ahead, be Pharasma's bitch
Pharasma? Don't care about her. But she cares enough about me to hear me out once I tell her that she should erase Areelu's soul from existence.
>he didn't do Storyteller's questline
Legendfags are complete brainlets that don't realize the true lengths of Pharasma's deception confirmed
>B-B-BUT THE STO-
Okay mommyfag, keep crying.
>everything was orchestrated by Pharasma in an attempt to hoard knowledge and keep her status quo
>you act as her good goy and doom the afterlife to eternal domination by the nigress
you are the real mommyfag, retard
Aroden will be Proud that his Son stayed a Human male Warrior like him than ever become a Outsider or a Lichcel.
>Aroden
>warrior
just look at this retard.
Retards.
he was a Filthy dipper or a legend himself.
Based Aroden was an archmage.
Aroden used both magic and weapons
He is literally me.
t.azata exp wiz/EK
>Lawful Neutral
>genocidal humanityfag
>Azata
???
He looks like he got lost on his way to the Three Kingdoms.
When is he Coming back? iomedae is a Shit goddess
>NOOOOOO WHY DOESN'T IOMEDAE JUST KILL DESKARI
>Aroden completely ignored Tar-Baphon when he was resurrected
Like master like student
Aroden actually killed Deskari already and founded the 3 most important states in the continent
What has Iomedae done?
He killed the echo
>What has Iomedae done?
Blew her trumpets whenever someone dared to talk back to her
My tabletop group is actually going to do this encounter Saturday. They are a bunch of LG fags who won't say shit though. But I want to do the Trumpets.
she plays a mean trumpet
Anon, we need to talk, you see Aroden...he's gone
YOU LIE! he will come back and restore Humanity into the superpower it once was.
>When is he Coming back? iomedae is a Shit goddess
They literally spell it out for you, if Iomede intervenes it'll start a plane war, imagine instead of two demon lords you're forced to face a dozen.
Don't bother.
>if Iomede intervenes it'll start a plane war
I know it's true but...
I do recall this one goddess getting so utterly livid with one demon lord that she calmly walked in the Abyss, murdered everything in sight, annihilated the demon lord together with her fortress, and then fucked off back to her realm.
All of that because the demon lord had dared to possess of one of her priestesses and kill the priestess' family, lover or something.
The contrast between her looks & nature and how badass the vanilla, wingman goddess can be is hilarious.
CG don't care, they would accept the war and kill all the demons. Iomade is lawfull so she is unwilling.
They do care, that's why Desna never did it again, she's chaotic GOOD the last thing she wants is for golarion to get destroyed, just because she was extremely pissed and went apeshit on Aolar that one time won't change that.
Until she does, CG is like that they can't control their emotions and are governed by them.
Aroden was more of a wizard/warrior I think, so if you want to be an Aroden-lite you would have to multiclass wizard-fighter
>jason
Is that your name
Oh good, more headcanon.
>no arguments just an emotional reaction
Hello, femanon!
I was disappointed that demon KCs can't make her submit and dominate her. But I guess OwlFag already felt they had given the demon paths too many demon holes to fill
If i go swarm matters what path i picked before the turning? If yes what is the most dreadful, the most "i can't believe the commander did this".
>Azata
>get a special scene where you eat Aivu when she tries to run away from you
Sold.
Where are my promised modding tools Owlshit?
I'm sure they'll get around to it after they finish the 5th expansion that standalone DLC that no one gives a shit about
Usually you lose everything you had previous if you change path with 3 exceptions
If you had the special Trickster feats, you keep them (hence most people picking trickster into whatever path for martials)
If you merged your spell list, you keep the Lich/Angel spells (again, absolutely fucking busted)
FInally, mild spoiler at this point but when you fall as Aeon or Azata to devil, you keep some of your previous path powers
Why do ascendfags get so uppity anytime someone tells them their ending is shit?
let them Enjoy their Ending anon, they worked very hard to get it.
I'm sure following that walkthrough was very difficult
it's actually quite easy to get the hidden ending with the exception of the retarded part where you have to go back to Areelu's Lab in Act 5 and go to Threshold on an exact week
>golden underwear
swag
is that a mod
Visual adjustments 2
She has body tattos? Can someone post the model?
Yes
>model
What do you mean the model, that's the model.
It's one of the three models succubi in the game use
i just wanted to add the tattos to my drawing so i wanted to see her model
Well I don't have the game installed but if you do, install VA2 and use the EE picker to remove her clothes. What are you drawing?
Just doodles, I beat the game yesterday finally.
Just wanted to let you know that I love the doodle, anon. Good job.
Oh it was you, nice
Das good, mang.
I just noticed Galfrey is wearing a cuirass and panties
Queen is more cuter than Arue on this image.
>Queen is more cuter
Queen is cuter. 'More' is unnecessary
is that a Butterfly womb tattoo? based Beyond belief anon.is that a Butterfly womb tattoo? based Beyond belief anon.
>So horny for womb tattoos he copy pasted the post twice
Bullying is wrong you know. And you shouldn't bully people on the internet
Yeah I was taking requests from the thread and someone wanted that. I didn't realize she has body tattos though
Yes, she is my horrible horrible wife
Every single demon and devil deserves nothing but the pointy end of a sword.
*unless personally redeemed by your god/goddess
Any "good" god that gives any leeway to fiends is a shit god
Enjoy losing your smite powers bro.
Who would they be ? Shelyn is a hippie and useless, so yes there, and Sarenrae goes hard on redemption but she also gets fairly pissed sometimes, who else?
but my LG empryeal lord god says
>Redemption finds hearts from even the cruelest origins. I will strive not to act upon prejudice against fellow mortals based on race or origin.
so i will follow my Paladin Code and redeem that Succubus. and later dick her down to create more mini-ragathiel tier mutts
Empryeal Lords are pretty great. There is a lawful good one for prostituting yourself and for prostitutes in general and a Neutral Good one where you just fuck all the time and admire how beautiful you are. I mean really just send a Paladin of one of them at the Succupussy
>prostitution?
>good
of course. wouldn't expect anything else from pozzo
What is inherently wrong with it? I don't see how it is any worse then other out of marriage sex.
>Redemption finds hearts from even the cruelest origins.
Yes, I am sure the Advodaza that flays people for shits and giggles is just ripe for redemption. Thinking that fiends can be redeemed is like thinking that polar bears can be tamed, utter naiveté.
>B-But you can redeem the succubus!
Fanwank tier storytelling
Is this a woman seething at waifu bait, or a deus vult larping 4chantard?
Just an anon that thinks that going against established archetypes just for the sake of subversion is retarded. Fiends are evil by nature, and making a redemption arc for one is something you'd find on fanfiction websites.
>Demon... but good!
Is probably a trope that has existed since before you were even born, shut the fuck up retard
2: Seed of Redemption (Sp) Once per day, you can make a special touch attack against an outsider. On a hit, the outsider becomes staggered for 1 round as it suddenly becomes aware of the fact that it need not follow the ethos and morals of its kind— that it can choose options other than the traditions of its ilk. The outsider must also succeed at a Will saving throw (DC = 10 + 1/2 your Hit Dice + your Charisma modifier) or become favorably disposed toward you, as if affected by charm monster; in this case the stagger effect persists for 1d4+1 rounds, even if the charm effect is dispelled or negated. Given time, you may be able to convert the outsider from its ways and help it find a new path beyond its alignment, although the GM should adjudicate the time and potential success of such an endeavor. This effect is the equivalent of a 7th-level mind-affecting spell.
What the fuck kind of retardation is this? Are they insinuating that an evil being does not know that it can choose to not be evil, that they essentially have no free will until informed that the in fact do by this spell? Who comes up with this shit?
that is correct, yes
the concept of good is alien to them, they have no way of experiencing it as they're inherently evil
it's how alignment works in this universe
So how exactly is it redemption if it is not a genuine change of heart but the divine equivalent of gaslighting?
the same way learning calculus is gaslighting yourself into thinking numbers are real
Because some while realizing what pieces of shit they are will not try and redeem themselves. Just because they realize they are evil does not mean they will do anything about it.
But why would any demon/devil choose to do anything about being evil? It seems an absurd concept for a naturally evil being to suddenly be averse to its nature just because it becomes aware of said nature. Some form of suggestion has to happen for it to make any sense that they'd want to change and at that point, is it really their own initiative?
Diplomacy roll
yes. you just need a powerful God or just some child with a Empyreal lord patron to help them do it.
That is why I'm likening it to gaslighting. The desire to be good does not come from the fiend themself, but rather from an outside source, so is it really redemption or just conversion?
If someone tells you to stop being a retard and you say "hey he's right, maybe I shouldn't be a retard" then yes, the desire does come from you
I'm not really evil if I have such thoughts the moment someone tells me I am being a meanie, am I?
And since fiends ARE evil by nature, they wouldn't give a shit if someone told them they were being evil. And if the divine roast does have that effect on them, that comes from the divine power itself, not them.
>And since fiends ARE evil by nature
nta, but I always hated this argument.
The very idea morality is somehow hardcoded into some entities and they literally can't do good because it isn't in their nature is retarded.
Is there even some lore explanation what mechanism governs this system where outsiders have this unchangeable morality?
But whenever there is or isn't some actual explanation for it, if you're brain/soul is somehow incapable of being good/evil and a god/something unlocks that capability for you, I wouldn't call that brainwashing.
No it's not, outsiders can change their alignment regardless, it's just hard and rare, particularly from evil to good
If one is raised as a christcuck then he will remain that way into adulthood, it would take a seriously intense event for the christucck to reconsider and start tipping his fedora
Giving the ability to be good is not brainwashing, but the crux of the issue is why would a fiend choose to be good even if it could be good. There needs to be some form of suggestion involved.
because being a demon and living in MurderFuckWorld is actually a pretty shitty existence
>There needs to be some form of suggestion involved.
The most barebones explanation would be that be unlocking the "goodness" within them, they also grew conscience which led to all their experiences and memories slowly giving birth to guilt as the fiend slowly realizes just how they were doing for their whole life.
We can basically see that with Arue who in the end forgave herself and decided to help others just like her friends and mainly the KC did for her.
OK. So this is how outsiders are made. When a mortal dies he goes to see a goddess who judges the mortal in life. Good souls go to good planes and evil souls go to evil planes. Once there they slowly become part of the plane. So evil planes absorb them essentially. Once absorbed they change into an outsider. So in The Abyss they become larva and eventually turn into insect demons. Sometimes they grow and turn into other types of demons. But the souls used as the base of the person is gone. They are a all new creature.
Some planes the outsider gets to keep some aspect of their old personality. Usually the evil ones either consume the evil soul to make another soul more powerful or are painfully tortured until you are nothing but an insane being who knows only pain and suffering and wishes to inflict that on others.
Sometimes truly evil individuals can skip the whole process and become outsiders straight up and keep most of their personality. But they corrupt themselves to the core by doing so.
>When a mortal dies he goes to see a goddess who judges the mortal in life.
Wait, so if Pharasma didn't send any soul to the evil planes and instead destroyed them, there would be no evil or it would be so weak it wouldn't even matter?
Yes. It is why redemption of mortal souls is the very best weapon against evil. If you kill an evil person they just fuel the evil planes. If everyone is good the evil planes will starve.
Can Pharasma nuke souls out of existence without any consequences? Not too well versed in the lore.
Probably not. I guess she could send souls to the negative energy plane where they will be torn apart though. But she might feed Zon-Kuthon or the Kytons doing that. And funny enough they might even be worse then Hell or the Abyss.
If gods are so much more powerful then demon lord's why dont they just smite all the demons?
Some sort of cosmic balance shit and the fact that the Abyss is endless and new demon lords will constantly spawn.
But from the factions that exist in the Outer Planes they should just curbstomp the demons. Asmodeus will be all for fucking demon skulls alongside the good deities. The Daemons made the demons but they don't care if they live or die really. They just want more souls to eat. And the Maelstrom hates the Abyss almost as much as they hate order. I guess Axis and The Boneyard would have a problem with it just because muh balance. And possibly those in Heaven who value law over good.
Hey if you want some straight up conversion do I have the item for you.
https://aonprd.com/MagicCursedDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Helm%20of%20Opposite%20Alignment
it's more like setting them on the path of redemption than Conversion, Arue doesn't turn into a Azata before she learns that she need s to live and love like mortals and solve Desna riddle
It's pretty normal actually
>Be fatty
>Suddenly come to realization that your eating stems from some childhood trauma and you eat when nervous
>Suddenly have much more control over your eating now that you know the source
Happens all the time with humans why not demons
But being fat is not a natural thing for humans. Being evil is the default state of being for fiends.
So the "realization" a fiend would come to "I'm evil because I'm a fiend."
>setting someone on the path of Redemption is gaslighting
and here i thought this place was filled with good Christian who follow the teaching of the lord.
> Are they insinuating that an evil being does not know that it can choose to not be evil
Outsiders in general cannot. It is why Arueshalae needed to be touched directly by Desna to realize what a monster she is and began her path to redemption. They simply are a force of nature unless they are acted upon by an outside force because they are made of Planar Essence and are a unified soul and body.
>they are made of Planar Essence and are a unified soul and body
imagine how good tender loving babymaking sex feels to them
precisely, outsiders are bound by their allignment
Cry about it
Made for blackpilling in Act 4 so I can kill her in Act 5
Sword means dick
her voice is pure sex. it's a tragedy she doesn't have a route.
Imposter goddess, give back my Father domains. I need more power to clean my god father country Cheliaxe from devil shit.
is there a class that fight with close range magic and dodge tanks, basically in your face mage
magus doesn't count since he fight with a weapon mostly
>Regill, fuck chaos and demons
>the Commander become a devil or an ally of Hell
>time to suck some devil cock and Hell balls
Owlcat can't write shit, i know devils are lawful evil, but they are devils, not better than demons.
A demon will cut your arms and legs and make you eat them, but if devil does the same but is writen in a contract, Regill agree, wtf?
Regill is a retarded lawtist that thinks only in terms of "muh order" without questioning whether that order is just or not.
I mean maybe don't sign a contract where you get your arms and legs ripped off?
HellkNIGhts will always bend the knee to Suck Devil cock. in Regill case he will get a stair to reach Mephi balls
They're different types of evil, deal with it, it is perfectly reasonable to like LE and hate CE, and viceversa, that's why devils and demons hate each other
Hellknights are lawtists, they don't care about good or evil, only law and chaos
You aren't one of "these" people... right?
>Paladin
>Scaled fist
>Dragon disciple
>10 CHA
>their only regret is that they weren't born drow
based devs mocking minmaxing retards
Hope we get some socobenthot shenanigans in the citadel DLC, he's a real bro
>resurrect her dwarf boy toy as my undead slave
>make him bash her skull in personally
felt good
>Headcanon an evil kitsune necromancer/enchanter
>Pic related
>no nonsense, calculating, cold
>in-game model is a fucking literal furry suit fox
Why even bother trying?
furnigs deserve to be ridiculed
These two anons are living proofs how the furry subculture utterly destroyed the possibility of someone being taken seriously just because they might find werewolves or other beast-like/were-something races cool.
Werewolves are cool, being an actual anthro wolf isn't however
there are multiple shapeshifter subclasses in the game
you could've picked that like a normal person instead of being a laughingstock furry gay
cry about it furry
There's a difference between a werewolf (transforms at set intervals, often against their will and becomes a rabid murder machine for several hours) and a wolfman (is always a wolf and in complete control of his faculties, aka a furry).
it's what you deserve for playing a fucking furry race, you fucking furry
I love Jerri!
WHY EVERYONE IN THIS FUCKING GAME IS KNEELING AT ONE POINT?
>no /ss/ ara-ara romance with woljif
That's not what /ss/ is
Also stop being a gay
How is Woljif /ss/?
I mean, you can use reduce person (shrink them), but...
If he's into /ss/, how can the anon be a gay?
He wants to play as a woman to fuck a man, he's a fag
Dare I say, maybe even a chud
Well... he might still be a girl (girl).
all girls are gays
>all girls are gays
I think that's kind of a given.
he's a stupid little boy who needs a grown up woman (giantess) to take care of him in more ways than one
>No voljiff romance
>No ember romance
>Can't see them going out togheter happily
>Can't encourage both to pursue their relationship
I am a sucker for the side couples.
Woljif is an insufferable gay who doesn't deserve a romance
t. literally a gay
>gay
>Has shit taste
Of course
Not one character in that game is even remotely someone I'd want in my party or ass.
rude. Woljiff is like the little brother who always get in trouble and you have to bail him out everytime. which is too say he is literally me.
Woljif is your son, not for romancing.
>Woljif is your son,
yes
>not for romancing.
he's a brat who needs to be taught a lesson
He learns his lesson by you being a good parent and always supporting and protecting him.
https://www.nexusmods.com/pathfinderwrathoftherighteous/mods/287
>cis white man created good ending for camelita
>pedo fujos created this shit for wolfjief romance
Modding community is the last hope of crpg
>press one button
>dozen of enemies drop dead
not OP at all
bro it's a lvl 9 spell
With extended arsenal you can cast it as many time as there are encounters on a map
oh god, we awakeed a mentally deffective dip shitter.
oh jesus, he's gonna shit himself loudly for at least 4 hours now
the who seethes about angels? might as well abandon thread
>buttblasted furfag still abusing 2 years old bug
>evil eyes stacking
if i start worshipping lamashtu can i eventually get a qt medusa gf
>Catch enemy
>No lul
>Dimension Doors away
Guess nobody knows how to block teleports.
are the second wave DLCs actually good? The first season was pretty shit overall
No.
Midnight islands standalone is great.
Season pass 2 first DLC is pretty much a new character who acts like a proper companion from early on plus a new class.
He is kinda fun to have around
>Midnight islands standalone is great
bro i grind less mobs in diablo 2 then in this shit dlc. I though i will kms during darkness grind.
The point is to assemble a party and kill shit. What did you expect?
4 set bosses and gaining 5 levels each time? I have managed to go through 100 archetypes to use in parties with various mythics, that is the goal
The Last Sarkorians is good
The Citadel DLC is good in concept
Through the ashes part 2 sounds boring just like the first one but at least it's adding new archetypes
New class and companion, Class is pretty fuckign good and VERY well supported item wise, the DLC adds a bunch of pretty cool items and and EXTREMELY busted one down the line. Companion is strong but i'm pretty much set in my ways team-wise
Midnight isles is pretty mindless combat. Rewards can be pretty good but it gets really tiring if your build is slow, because it's a LOT of combat.
Someone on .Ganker talking about people who do not talk to real life people and his critique being a bunch of buzzwords nobody would use normally is pretty hilarious
>someone on Ganker not even able to respond to the correct post
Oh look. Exactly the type of person I was talking about
>Miss clicking a post means something completely random
Excellent observation, anon.
One day you will graduate from 'everything I do not like is random social media' critique.
Owlcat simply can't write.
Try the rogue trader beta for even more evidence of this.
They write like a bunch of redditors who have never talked to people in their lives and want to shoehorn whatever self-insert they identify with that week no matter what that does to the story.
>yet another stand alone DLC
Holy shit no one fucking cares.
Yeah, the game does a lousy job when it comes to defining evil. Most "evil" companions are just "evil" in the sense that they are not "good and retarded". Pragmatism and disinterest are considered evil for example. The option of making "necessary sacrifices" in the context of war is also shunned. There is no real option of being actually "evil for fun" and tormenting people either. Furthermore evil option are almost always merciful deaths. There are very few instances on which one can do to characters things that would hurt them more than death.
>Most "evil" companions are just "evil" in the sense that they are not "good and retarded"
Do Regillfags always forget that this is the same game that has Camellia and Wenduag?
Wendu is just a scared girl willing to do whatever to survive. She killed her fellow mongrel only to cover her own tracks and she killed the guys at the bar because she was making a point and had to show strength so that others would not mess around with her. She`s absolutely no righteous but in a nightmarish world full of demons looking out for number one is darwinism at worst, not evil or malice.
Daeran is also not evil. He just values his life more than he values everyone else`s. Not noble in absolutely any way but hardly evil. The other is the one doing the actual killings.
CamCam is a different story, she seduces and kills for fun. She enjoys the act of betraying people so she is actually evil. I`ll admit i had forgotten about her as i always end up killing her. So you got a point there.
>It's a Wenduagfag
Nevermind
>it's another Wendufag make excuses for his waifu episode
>Wendu is just a scared girl
I don't care. No one who's good fucking cares. Your tragic past doesn't give you the right to act like an evil bitch.
>darwinism at worst, not evil or malice.
Demon Worshipping is evil.
Cannibalism is evil.
Murdering your family is evil.
Murdering people in cold blood is evil.
Lying and slandering the name of good people is evil.
>murder...LE EVIL!
cold-blooded murder of innocents, yes
Prove it
What person did she kill that was innocent?
Dyra
Mongrels are not people
>it means I'm ded
kek
I wonder if it's a typo or it was intentional.
it's intentional, but they didn't go far enough with it
It's intentional since it's not the only typo.
>evil thing... is ......LE GOOD!
*nods in agreement*
yeah no shit Retard, Murder is evil one way or the other
NTA and I don't care about her, but I'll offer a counter-argument that you can't really blame a person living in a fucked up environment if they are forced into some actions to survive or acted in a certain way because the environment shaped them.
In a survival, life-death circumstances morals don't matter. Even you would be willing to engage in cannibalism if you had no other choice or murder someone because the idea of "if they are dead, they can't kill me" made its way deep into your instincts.
Not saying that's completely Wendu's case, but you know...
But I don't blame Wenduag for being a cannibal, I blame her for everything else.
>you can't really blame a person living in a fucked up environment
you absolutely can, you fucking retard.
>Even you would be willing to engage in cannibalism
No, I'd die of starvation because I'm not a subhuman mongrel
>or murder someone because the idea
Wendu murdered people for no reason.
Sorry. I don't have any sympathy for unrepentant, mass murdering, demon worshipping, kinslaying, cannibals
>you absolutely can, you fucking retard.
Let me rephrase, you can fault them for it, but not blame them.
A child the grew up in an environment where she had to struggle to stay alive in deadly environment, faced constant hardships and more that turned her dispassionate, cruel, evil, whatever is evil but I wouldn't blame them for it.
They didn't become evil by choice.
>No, I'd die of starvation because I'm not a subhuman mongrel
Then you're a retard.
In a live-death, survival scenario where no eating means your death and eating might mean you survive caring about eating someone's (preserved) body is not immoral.
If you murder someone because you're hungry, yeah, that's immoral. But the actual cannibalism for survival is not evil.
Meat is protein, no matter where it comes from.
Cannibalism is shunned because it's not socially and culturally acceptable because it can lead to fucked up things as can be seen in meso-americans or tribes in SEA/Oceania.
Also, afaik, that one disease cannibals suffer from only happens if you consume human brain because it contains some proteins that can fuck up your children down the line over several generations. It will not affect you and I doubt you'd even eat the brain rather than the muscles.
>Wendu murdered people for no reason.
Like I said, I was talking in general, not about Wendu's case.
this post is like a quintessential left movement of today
claiming to be "good" while lacking any compassion or solidarity
I will redeem the ignorant with my words and my actions. If they will not turn toward the light, I will redeem them by the sword.
why are there so many Sarenraefags here?
The Dawnflower blessed us with her light
Ganker is a Densa and The Everlight Board.
it's funny how christcucks post this while being completely serious while their popes forgave literal genocidal maniacs in the past
>Praise brown mommy
>Bring up IRL religion
???
They also called for crusades you doofus
>Christcuck
she is like the designated fantasy arab goddesss dude.
Rent free.
compassion for repentant murderers is useless, I will redeem the ignorant with my words and my actions. If they will not turn toward the light, I will redeem them by the sword.
>repentant
*unrepentant
Too late, fag.
>Wendu is just a scared girl willing to do whatever to survive
I'm a wendufag but this is bullshit, she does get enjoyment from evil actions, of course over the companion quest you can teach her to value something else like freedom but at the start she enjoys shit like watching that cultist die eating that note or talking about ways to kill that dude in the forest temple
>Yeah, the game does a lousy job when it comes to defining evil.
This.
>Pragmatism and disinterest are considered evil for example.
I can understand disinterest being labeled as evil because it's not neutral when you allow certain actions to pass even if you had an option to stop them.
If you allow an innocent to be slaughtered for no good reason then it is evil, not because of your actions, but inaction as you've to not view living creatures/nature as something worthy of protection.
But shunning pragmatism is retarded, I agree.
>But shunning pragmatism is retarded
Regill arguing that you have to bring a bunch of civilians under the pretense of revenge so they can serve as cannon fodder is pragmatic, and also extremely fucking evil.
If your pragmatism involves raping puppies then denouncing it is absolutely good.
You know what I meant, anon.
Rulers in position of power sometimes how to make pragmatic decision and possibly even join forces with "evil" in rare cases.
Sacrificing an entire town to slow down an invasion so that the armies could properly regroup and launch a counter-attack less all is lost is "evil", but also pragmatic.
Pragmatism isn't inherently evil and only becomes actually evil if you start wielding pragmatism as an excuse instead of it being the last resort.
killing everyone and resurrecting them as your undead slaves is extremely pragmatic and extremely evil
But to save someone you have to commit resources to it. Risk soldiers lives (or your own), soldiers you would have to take from a different position on the battlefield and which presence or absence can mean the life or death of other soldiers. Demons count with human feelings and misplaced acts of kindness to weaken the war effort. Granted the risk could be well worth the reward like saving Ember but 9 out of 10 times delaying on saving a starving orphan would mean being too late to save someone more important to the war effort or even holding a door that could keep many others alive. Offcourse saving both or failing to save both are also options because there is no way to know which one is the correct choice until the choice is made.
>There is no real option of being actually "evil for fun" and tormenting people either
I remember me and Wendu scaring the shit out of that dude in the temple with how we would kill him before going downstairs and getting him killed anyways.
Is there a mod that makes Devil not total garbage?
>mod adding content like this
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Not specifically content but changing mythic abilities and spells to make the path not completely inferior from a gameplay perspective
damn
no
Should I go full Cavalier or do a multiclass Paladin/Cavalier?
full gendarme
you want the lvl 20 milestone
Supreme Charge sucks.
terrible take
I know you look at the big multiple number and think "WOW SO COOL" but if you actually tried playing it you'd know that Cavalier charges are one of the most annoying and inconsistent things in the game.
Cavalier is a trap, you can do pure paladin with a horse and be more useful than cavalier would ever be.
>cavalier is a trap
>*charges you for 5000 damage*
i sure feel trapped
Casters and archers are there to kill shit, melee fags exist only for buffing and meat shielding.
>STOP HAVING FUN
Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about. Cavaliers one shot every enemy in the game once they're build comes online.
>Cavalier
>Trap
This moron is retarded, Even mark of justice isn't worth it over those juicy charges, might as well just use Seelah to be a buffbot while you actually kill shit
20 Paladin or 20 Cavalier. Don't multiclass.
If you want a horse while being a Paladin, then you get a horse for free at level 5. You'll never do the triple charge damage of a cavalier as a Paladin, but it's still really good.
go paladin 11/beast rider 8. Will have one flex level for dip or anything you want. Do divine guardian 4, 1 level of beast rider at 5 and pick any pet you like. After get fifth level in paladin and continue it till mark of justice. Paladin is useless past 11, so no need to go pure. Ideally go divine guardian for extra feats and divine troth is particular busted early on. Make sure to pick Order of the Sword.
I heard you have more interactions with her in Demon path, how fun is it? I've nearly finished Angel and I'm thinking about what to do next.
she gets thirsty for you dick
I-is that so? Thanks anons, guess this will be Demon then.
demon rapes her so good she becomes obsessed with you
Why is it that both the rider and mount can take mount feats. Like the mobility check to dodge damage for your mount. Why can mounts also take this feat? In case you have a mount for your mount? How does it work?
are you having a stroke again?
clearly his bot broke
don't ask, i am just wasted after Work
Which god would a good necromancer worship?
Nethys
Atheism
Pharasma, but there exist no such thing as a good Necromancer
The god of necromancy
Pharasma. Ironically.
don't be silly, raising dead is sacrilege to Pharasma.
>there exist no such thing as a good Necromancer
lmao brainlet
Doesn't fucking with negative energy, especially to force the dead to rise again, kind of make you evil?
it's like saying hellknights are evil because they fuck with devils
They aren't?
it's not a requirement, although most of the higher ranks are evil.
nope
retard lol
play the game
>Well you see we live and fully support a LE country, admire Devils as peak lawtism and in general have no problem with killing people for the sake of our own defintion of the law
>But we're LN so totally not evil
This is like saying that the Lantern King isn't evil, sure, he isn't, by a technicality.
>Arue is evil because she's a demon
okay retard
Yes, stop sucking her cock commander and see the truth
That's not what I said
A better example would be post-briar Nyrissa, she's still an oglin but regardless of what she did in the past, she is good now
The lantern king on the other hand acts like a cartoon villain all because he wants to have fun with his pranks
and that's completely inapplicable for necromancy because...
What the fuck does necromancy have to do with what we're talking about
lmaoooooooo
read the reply chain you fucking spastic retard
>You'll live as we say you'll live or we'll kill you
>Not evil
You can choose only one
>Every form of government and law is evil
hurr
lawful evil, yes
>letting people break the law and commit crimes is good
lawful evil literally means you uphold oppressive, selfish, and corrupt laws that benefit you
If the law is there to protect an elite minority, then yes.
Ah yes, because every form of government doles out capital punishment like it's candy. Oh wait...
t. jailtime for collecting rainwater
Jailtime is not death. The Hellknights would kill you for that.
And they'd be in the right. Don't fuck around during wartime.
No but cheliax is
Hellknights ARE pretty evil, though.
Pharasma said necromancy is evil, so it's evil.
Himself
Urgothoa
Nethys
Irori
>Himself
Pharasma just to make her seethe. Double dip if you become a lich.
>no new games in paizo settings by owlcat
>new games are shitty diablo clones for mobile market
It's always 2 games and opps that's all folks
>bg1 and 2
>nwn 1 and 2
>pathfinder 1 and 2
CRPGs are a dead genre populated by grognards and losers. RTWP is outdated and trash
>t. Josh Sawyer
>>no new games in paizo settings by owlcat
good. paizo setting is one of the worst out there. And I mean the worst. It's not original, it's not soulful, it's not unique, it's not thought provoking, it's not even coherent
Ok so if someone does and gets sent to hell, they get their soul turned into demons right? But what if you go to heaven? Do you remain yourself? If so where do angels comes from? Or does your soul get reused either way
Theyr'e all the same, souls are used to create outsiders
Only difference is that the souls that reside in good planes have peaceful rest instead of getting constantly raped by demons or devils
You enjoy your time in heaven and slowly lose your self-awareness over time and eventually either sink into the realm itself and become one with Heaven/Elysium/Nirvana or you turn into an angel ect.
would you fags stay in Ganker. absolutely pathetic game for pathetic people
>loot random corpses
>run across curl looting random corpses
>WTF BRO WHY ARE YOU LOOTING THAT'S UNLAWFUL REEEEEEEEEEEE
I was looting demons
He was looting a farmer he just shanked
We're not the same
5 seconds before you meet him you loot the remains of a kenabres cruser that was killed by ghouls before you very eyes
I looted the potions
>he loots corpses
Evil fuck
Can I skip kingmaker and play WOTR? I found kingmaker to be utterly boring.
Then you will find this game boring too. It's the same sort of shit, retard.
No it isn't, the kingdom management isn't nearly as much of a drag as in Kingmaker
So did anyone else get fucked in the ass by Daeran for those experience points. I do believe I gurgled on his penis too and swallowed his cum. It was so gay, but gotta do what you gotta do for experience I guess
Guys, lets focus on Daeran romance for one second. Did anyone else sluurp his penis or was it just me? I hate it when the game forces you to be so gay, hahaha, damn, but I need those experience points
I think you're just gay anon
It's only gay of you don't change his portrait to a feminine Twink. As long as you did that first you're fine.
his romance is great. i love daeran. never go for anyone else
such as?
Best weapon for a Cavalier? Is it Fauchard?
there's a bunch of Longspears that buff charges
Charge is bad.
it's not launch anymore
There hasn't been a single meaningful change to how Charge works. It will always be shit with mounts.
yes there have been, Charge used to literally not work and break all the time, now it works as intended
Damn, Tristian dumps you for THIS?
i would too, i want to bathe in her holy light
he didn't dump me. you just fucked up his triggers
I didn't fuck up anything because I'm not a fag
But if you let him choose between staying in Golarion or going back with Sarenrae, he picks her
I wish I didn't see this image and the one in my brain continued to exist
Necromancy simps are always so laughable
>Yeah, I'm filling corpses with negative energy or, worse yet, forcing the already departed soul back into the corpse to act out my will
>But I'm good, honest!
>giving people a second chance to live
>bad
Bullshit, you'd rather be a cool ass skeleton than just being dead.
>Being a chudkeleton
Jesus no
>I rape your corpse
>hey man I'm just giving him some last minute sex that's....LE BAD
>anti-necrofag instantly steers the convo towards gay rape
A true resurrection spell would be that. You pumping the corpse full of anti-life so it can be a meatshield for you is not that.
What if I need meatshields to save the world? The greater good demands it.
Then you rally the common man to your cause, your noble endeavor igniting a fire in their hearts so that they want to help you.
What if I have no charisma and no one likes me?
Those skeletons are killing demons, what's evil about that?
Paladins are so laughable
>Yeah, I'm killing those cultists instead of guiding them to path of redemption!
>But I'm good, honest!
See
Yeah, It's hilarious, that's what I said.
When in doubt, I may force my enemies to surrender, but I am responsible for their lives. and if they show signs of falling, then i will grant them a swift death.
Necromancers and Lich aren't the same. You can be a Necro and go Angel.
This.
Necromancy is just a tool in the end. I will raise a dead gay to fight a living gay.
>tfw no gigantic incubus to pound my asshole into submission in the middle of a whorehouse while all my friends watch
It's not fair bros...
>Incubus instead of a succubus with a cock
gay?
>he doesn't take Enduring Spells and Greater Enduring Spells so he only has to buff once a day
>using buffs
>playing on anything below Core
Thanks for outing yourself, scrub.
>playing on anything above Core
Thanks for outing yourself, autist.
I'm on core, I only use buffs when I can't hit the enemy at all, not gonna bother with +1 gay spells
I just use a mod to give 24h duration for everything
Just noticed the game starts on the same day that the First Crusade irl started