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every pc is better than a ps5 because of porn and emulation
Porn is not a good thing my friend.
It's poison to the mind.
Women are not a good thing my friend.
They're poison to the mind.
Is your pc better than a phone?
phone hardware is shit, laptop performance except even worse
The joke is that the new iPhone plays AAA games with rtx
shiiet didn't know apple is using Nvidia hardware now
And spiderman2 will come out in a month, people already seething about this game. Ps5 bros we're eating good
yes it has games
If you own a ps5 you're a moron or a third worlder
stupid robot with rhetorical question
Can a moron?
Actually it is lol
Convince me NOT to buy a PS5? I'm looking into putting a PC together and the prices, comparatively, are insane.
I can get a PS5 for 520 leafbux.
How much does a PC with similar power cost?
>How much does a PC with similar power cost?
You don't buy a PC just to have the same gaming power as a console.
You buy a PC to be able to do a million things on top of playing modern games. But this will cost more.
But I don't get the feeling that you are interested in any of that, so buy your normalfag box.
Never really got these arguments on either side. I don't look at someone that bought or build something they wanted and go "you know, this is better" I just let them enjoy it, because it's their free time.
imo if all you are after is certain types of gaming then the PS5 or even the XBone series Bone is fine for it, it'll do what you need. PC is if you are wanting to get into retro PC games, playing games that do much better with keyboard and mouse or alternatively you are an enthusiast with graphics and performance tech, but short of the last one the first two don't demand a lot in the tech department.
you forgot to pice in a gpu 🙂
We are talking less than $300 for a GPU that matches Bone or PS5.
>I just let them enjoy it, because it's their free time.
It comes from people who don't know how to enjoy things and get angry when others do enjoy things so they lash out with shitposting.
>16GB of fast ram
>Sata SSD (NVMe speeds are negligible in gaming because of asset streaming)
>Can Play Modern trash at 720p and even better framerates than on a PS5
>Can install games that hadn't just re/released in the past 5 years
Ya my computer > PS5
The real question is: Is your ps5 better than your ps3?
My PC has games
Uh yes? Now go back. We dont want your kind here.
Spec-wise no, but at least I have games I can play
It can run about a hundred games i want to play. Ps5 can run 2 or 3 I'd want to play
My PC would beat your PS5 in a fight. He is the strongest PC around.
Post more anti-PC memes
Bro even a 3600x + 3070 is better than a PS5.
had no idea you can play games with just a gpu (that launched at 500$) and cpu without any other parts
a ps5 is comparable to a 6700xt at the very best of times and the cpu competes with ryzen 5 2700x, since its zen 2 but so underclocked. seeing as i have a 3080ti and a 5800x3d i would say yes my pc is indeed a lot stronger.
>comparable to a 6700xt
The PS5's gpu power is comparable to that of a 5600xt or RTX2060.
that hasnt been true since the console launched let alone bow and in future when Nvidia stops bothering optimizing drivers for 2060 and devs too , case in point , gtx750ti used to match PS4 on launch , few years into that gen and it couldnt even play some of the games that were in PS4 at similar settings or even at all
gave me a good laugh
Oh no no no no no PSissies….what about our legacy console….
>Take the singular launch games that were horribly optimized on PS5 as your primary comparison point
Why didn't you use TLOUpt1? It obliterates PCs that are twice the price of PS5
i came into this thread, looked for this picture, replyed to it, and left.
If you don't have anything more powerful than a 2080, you're weaker than a PS5. Hopefully a 2080 is dirt cheap and any RX 6XXX are cheap too
Dude you can build a pc with a 5600G, a Sata SSD and 16gb of fast ram for like $400
GPU not required.
This post would contain an eastern style emoticon but this website is gay.
Lemme guess, buying used parts off ebay? Don't forget the mined out card!
are really outdated hardware parts
infact you wont be able to play any state of the art games at reasonable settings with it, still funny that a ps5 runs DMC 5 worse than this trash
Crapcom makes shit games
RE engine runs phenomenally
Have they fixed that "feature" whereby then you look through an open door the next room's lighting matches the one you're currently in before you cross the threshold then it changes? It was there in RE2, it was there in REVII and it was there in RE4 remake
This shit is really only true for the first couple of years of a newer console's life. The average PC quickly overtakes it very soon.
And this is already taking into account the bullshit marketing from console manufacturers, like remember PS5's very superior SSDs? LMAO
It's pretty clear the thread is wanting to (You) mine and little else.
IS YOUR PC BETTER THAN TIMCOOK?
an iphone pro is over 1500 bucks
its no problem to build a stronger pc with that budget
Not in the same form factor.
Retarded argument and you know it
what cooling are they using
No, no- anon. The new iPhone 15 Pro doubles as a means to defrost your freezer before cleaning, as well as a portable heater for your balls on those cold winter months where your car needs to spend 15 minutes heating in advance. From your friends at Apple.
every pc is better than a ps, regardless of the specs, chud.
The correct answer. The versatility aspect is king. Also not paying for your internet twice.
It has more games than a PS5.
>i9 9900k with an rtx 3090 ti
Is mine better?
A mid range PC is better
any pc is better than a ps5 by the virtue of not being a locked down toy made from the literal garbage tier parts that weren't good enough to be sold for desktop and server use
I built my rig at the start of 2020. It's on the higher end of mid range so yeah, it's more powerful than a ps5.
Wait a sec..
At least we don't play at 900p 27fps darling
I get 10k score on timespy
Where would that place my specs?
Am I okay for the future?
May I see it?
My PC is better than everyone on Ganker
Optimal for AM5 mobos poorfag. Post your Hwinfo
Go look at benchmarks. 6400 CL32 performs better.
AM5 can't even run over 6000 efficiently due to it being a new mobo type, it's not stable you absolute brainlet.
Post Hwinfo or else stop responding
>techlets genuinely unironically still buy 32gb cost saving options for top end 3k+ builds
>AM5 platform unironically
that is not optimal, 64gb sticks are optimal for poozen, if you don't know why, dont@me
>trying to oc IF on poozen
more techlets spotted
>stealth upgrade thread
Nice. 2x16 or one 32 for ddr5 setup?
>or one 32
are you seriously suggesting running single channel ram on a dual channel system in 2023?
you can't do this, you are crippling your cpu perf by half
4090 fags really are like vegans
i dont know how many fps im losing with having a 7600X but im happy with it because if i do start needing more processing ill just whack a cheaper 7900x in or later when that new shit drops
with that being said, i really want to learn skills in engine probably UE or 3d modeling and animation, where the fuck do i start
i have friday and the weekend free and im just getting drunk during that, i might as well learn something
>with that being said, i really want to learn skills in engine probably UE or 3d modeling and animation, where the fuck do i start
What's your GPU?
Unironically googling a problem with site:reddit will get you legit answers too. Check out /3/ for resources. There's a lot of different areas and which ones you'll need to learn will depend on your goal, texturing, topology, animations/keyframes, rigging, modelling, low poly, high poly, sculpting. Blender is completely free and a good baseline if you want to model things, start with the donut tutorial. Zbrush is sculpting instead of modeling and if you want to use it as a model you will need to learn how to retopo it (not hard but time consuming). UE has very realistic human models and is great for performance capture or key frames, but there are better programs for graphics and realistic muscular motion if that's your goal.
Mine is better.
>he comes dickwaving into every slightly GPU related thread with some variant of this
Do you even play any fucking games on this thing?
time is a cruel mistress, your build will be dated fast so try and get all the attention while you still can with your overpriced gnomish slop rig.
why do 4090 morons always have to wave their shit around and act superior?
Wake me up when console cucks can launch actually good games
Only thing I'm debating is getting 1440p/240hz or 4k/144hz?
as long as it has a 1070 and a 4 core processor, it is.
are you posting from a ps5 or a pc?
From my phone duh.
Is this really not enough VRAM to run ratchet and clank? I checked in Special K and it said the game was only using 3 GB VRAM
It chugs with 8GB.
But doesn't that pic show I have 20 GB Virtual RAM? I guess these snoy ports are showing that I'm a prebuilt computer techlet.
that's a pagefile you fucking techlet.
What's your GPU. Download hwinfo or shit, even speccy to find out
You can't use my own insult against me
My PC has 30 years worth of games to play. PS5 has no exclusives. So yes, obviously. I would genuinely rather have a Dell prebuilt from 2001 running Windows 98 than a PS5 and I'm not joking.
>EXCLUSIVES ARE... LE BAD!!!
>EXCLUSIVES ARE.... ACTUALLY LE GOOD!!!
So which fucking one is it
It's cope and seethe.
It would be if
- prices for parts weren’t insane
- there were enough games worth upgrading for
In the current economy, the smart decision is to buy a console
>hurr just change the system managed paging file size if you have less vram that will fix everything
>wow thanks snoy that did nothing
Is this really not enough VRAM to run ratchet and clank? I checked in Special K and it said the game was only using 3 GB VRAM
Are you only pretending to be retarded?
my PC has games
windows explorer has a bug that makes it eat over 1gb of VRAM by the way and the best way to stop it is to disable fast start or whatever it is.
idk I'm pretty tired but I clicked 2 memory chips into my motherboard a while back and it doesn't do anything. (yes, i know vram and ram are not the same thing)
setting system managed paging file size on my external hard drives has improved performance in some games i noticed tho
just trying to play this snoy port even though i know they are remarkably unoptimized
Just look up on how to see VRAM usage with Task Manager bro.
It does show that I have 26 GB RAM, which is a good sign at least but idk if Ratchet and Clank even needs it
Check the GPU tab and see the current VRAM usage.
Also you want to see this in the Details tab. Go there, right click on one of the headers (CPU for example) then pick Select columns
oh I see. yeah it says dwm.exe "desktop window manager" is using 339,000 K. wew
Would be nice to have a competently written operating system that works with games. It is completely retarded that the only options are
1. Windows that sucks ass in every design decision and runs like shit but does play games
2. Mac OS that runs well and has good design decisions but barely plays games and Apple doesn't give a fuck that you have to dual boot their machines
3. Various Linux OS that are honestly horrible to use even if you know what you're doing and don't play any fucking games
I know Microsoft is basically a monopoly because of aggressive destruction of early competitors back in the day, and the licensing scam that forces everyone to use them. But surely it isn't completely impossible to become a legitimate smaller contender that runs a Windows style operating system but competently made?
>my pc has games
What are the games worth playing that aren't available on PS5?
ps5 doesn't have games
>games are often on sale for dirt cheap
>not bound to one storefront
>unlocalized games can be easily patched with a fan translation
>censored content can be restored with patches (visual novels are prime example for this)
>have a massive catalog of games both past and present
>exclusives are not really a thing anymore
>mods can enhance your experience making games feel fresh and giving you more value for your money
>mods also can fix bugs
>you can use any control option you like appropriate for the game (controller for action games /mouse+keyboard for shooter/RTS)
>a pc can easily be upgraded to suit your needs
>you get all the benefits that a PC brings like customization and software
I was a console gamer almost all my life but modern consoles are so shit that switched to PC.
Consoles lost what made them appealing and that was easy usage and exclusive titles.
everyone who still uses consoles is just too lazy to invest a bit of time to build a proper PC and learn basic software usage.
Are you me? I owned every Playstation and PS4 was so bad I didn't even buy PS5 and switched to PC. I agree with all of your points. But to be fair my PC cost me 1600€. PS5 is what, 500€? My GPU alone cost that. And in 8 years when PS6 comes out I will have to buy a new GPU that will also cost more than PS6. Then there's the whole issue with denuvo and the death of physicals on PC, you are basically buying discounts on Steam, lets not kid ourselves. And researching parts and building my PC is not for the average person I think. But it feels great to look at my PC knowing I took the time to pick out the parts and I built it myself, and to customize it to run however I want.
My pc cost 1000$ and has lasted 2 console generations and it's still better than the PS5
Okay buddy go take your pills.
haha this is simply not true when comparing a pc to a console. I've never had problems with games working right out of the box on console. Pc on the other hand? I keep seeing threads on Ganker about looking for solutions to fix their games and getting dead-ended on obscure forums. Go ahead and feign ignorance over this.
My PC is more powerful than PS5 and it is also better than PS5.
anon... be honest with yourself
do you really not have anything else to do in your life than spam the same shitty bait thread every 2 days on this board?
Didn't you sonyfags keep claiming the PC will be dead since the PS3 days
Another quality game only for Playstation. You guys will never get to play Bloodborne on pc either.
>You guys will never get to play Bloodborne on pc either.
I played BB and didn't like it.
you will never play it above 30fps either unless master snoy says it's ok to resell it
I can finally post in these threads because I upgraded my PC and it's now better than a PS5.
we have this thread every other fucking day, you all KNOW what the point of it is, anyone with common sense knows why to make the switch, don't bother
It actually has games, yes.
PC bros... we can't even run ratshit and clank...
its to upgrade your 1050ti anon
I just bought a 7900XTX powercolor hellhound white to replace my 6900XT.
What am I in for?
Depends on your goals. If you only want to play video games it's ok.
Yeah, at 4k.
IA kinda interest me as well just for pictures.
>IA kinda interest me as well just for pictures.
AMD is supposedly bad for AI.
the PS5 is outdated as fuck, the 3060 is stronger
A $4000 PC is better than a $4000 PS5
Consoles are a singe hardware box, it's easier to have games optimized for them. A $4000 PS5 would run games better than $4000 PC.
But is your $4000 PS5 better than a $4000 PC?
I have a PC, you are memeing on the wrong moron.
as shown in many recent games this is not true anymore. was when consoles had their own funky hardware like the ps3.
I have a PC, I don't even own PS5 and I wish what you said to be true but it isn't. It's one machine vs thousands different configurations of PCs. Any specific example you may find gets patched and then comparatively HW vs HW PS5 comes out on top, like the consoles always do. Even the absolute disaster Jedi Fallen Order ran better on PS5 than 4090 on release, probably because the execs wanted a nice quarterly growth.
>Even the absolute disaster Jedi Fallen Order ran better on PS5 than 4090 on release,
you are probably comparing the 720p medium or whatever settings to 4k maxed with full RT on the 4090.
pc players complain more because they have higher standards. console users just eat up what their given.
>ryzen 5 3800x
>2tb gen4 nvme
yeah i think i'm good
Reminder. If your PC does not have 16gb of vram than it is not better than a PS5 sorry.
PS5 has shared 16GB memory for both GPU and CPU. I have 12GB VRAM and 64GB RAM.
But I just bought more ram sticks. if you don't have 29 GB ram then you are worse than me.
ps5 doesn't have 16gb vram either
PS5 has 16 GB of total unified RAM.
2 GB of that is set aside for the OS hypervisor.
The remaining 14 has to be divived between use as main RAM or VRAM.
12 GB VRAM would leave only 2 GB of general purpose RAM to hold the game data.
More likely, games would use 4-6 GB as main RAM and use 8-10 GB of VRAM.
A high-end PC with a 12 GB VRAM video card and 16 GB of RAM literally blows a PS5 out of the water on both sides of the equation. This is cold hard spec-sheet fact.
THE PS5 HAS GAMES!
It's called PS5 because it has 5 games.
At least my PC isn't Randy Pitchford.
>system ram over 32gb
To play roguetech it will shit itself regardless
Video editing, 3D, running games and other programs at the same time. If you have 32GB your OS may have to start allocating resources and halting processes. If you have 64GB it's a paradise for every program, there is never a wait because the fucking game needs all the resources for itself or because your render is not complete.
1) to do anything beyond running a singular game with everything shut down at the same time
2) higher 1% lows in actual gaymes
3) better performance due to ram interleaving
4) games starting to demand more
5) not being poor
6) ram does not cost much now a days again
7) not being a ram tuner there is even less niche to going with lower ram amounts
to name a few, but not limited to these
just know that I am right and you are wrong, that is all that is needed, feel free to dyor and seethe in silence that I was, indeed right after your knowledgebase has increased
I even spoonfed you a bit here
Consolefags care so much about saving money and yet defend paid online buying games when that shit is free on PC
And they continue to defend it evem after the prices are raised.
>have computer powerful enough to fight God
>only play Rimworld and Factorio
I got a 4070
Mine doesn't charge me to play online, so yes.
>But is YOUR PC better than a PS5?
Yes. Because I actually have worthwhile uncensored; unpozzed games by the bucketload. And if not, they're just a simple mod-install away.
So really, what's the GPU equivalent for a PS5? 3080ti?
Consoles are a shambles, the Switch has the same processor as a fucking Nvidia Shield lmao
lmfao. 3060 best case scenario.
A 3080Ti can play Armored Core 6 at 120fps and emulate PS3 games. It fucking smokes the PS5.
>what's the GPU equivalent for a PS5?
A Radeon RX 5700 XT matches the Oberon GPU in the PS5's APU the closest.
Performance-wise, on average the Oberon GPU performs closer to a Geforce RTX 2070 than it does to an RX 5700 XT though.
RX6700 non XT is the PS5 GPU
Why nobody made separate vram sticks yet? Would be so nice to just upgrade vram same way you do with ram instead of getting new overpriced nvidia bricks.
Just desolder them and resolder denser chips anon.
I'd say my PC outperforms a PS5.
Ever had any issues with drivers or just general troubleshooting? 7900XTX is clearly the better value option, but I always get skittish since I've had problems with AMD in the past.
>Ever had any issues with drivers or just general troubleshooting?
Nothing that I didn't cause (such as pushing a manual undervolt too aggressively). It Just Werks out of the box like it should.
not only is it way better than a ps5, it'll live longer and will still be better than the ps6, and live longer than that too.
even my steam deck is better and has a bigger library than a ps5
somethings are sad, some are pathetic, that pic is both sad and pathetic
still a better way to play games than pissshit5
>not building PC to outperform whatever shit spec current console gen is running
It's like you don't even want to play real games. It's not like there's much under that marketing babble. Most SSD and mid-tier GPU beats them all.
took me 3 years to realize i couldn't run some of the more modern games because i have a hdd and not an ssd.
Yeah it is
delet dis you fat bastard
>lives in a shed
Well we can see where all your money went
I wonder if the reflection of him on the tv was shopped in or if it's the original.
who the fuck mounts their CPU tubes in THAT orientation?
I don't know this particular cooler, does it matter? Mine can be mounted only in one orientation.
I think that rave party box would be too distracting for me.
Remove the running LEDs on the PCIE cables, turn the AIO radiator upside down and connect the GPU PCIE from the other side and it's pretty serviceable setup.
Me when playing Cyberpunk 2077.
Computer looks like it's from the future.
does your mom know you're gay?
>connecting your pump above the radiator inlet
Yes. 3090 ftw
Anon the card came out in 2016 your 7 years behind
fuck, he got us PCbros
We lost .
>all replies saying "yes"
>meanwhile the steam survey
pc players are mostly liars with shit rigs
the minority with good pcs are benchmarkers who don't really play games at all
I have a 3070 so yeah it's better
My $2000 PC is stronger than a $500 console, plays virtually infinitely more games thanks to emulation, gives me all these games for free thanks to piracy, and I don't have to pay for online twice if I want online connectivity in a game.
>$600 upgrade (5600+6750xt+mobo+ram) of my 2012 pc
>plays Starfield at 50-100fps instead of 30fps
$4000 what now
And the case, and the supply, and the storage unit, and the peripherals? You get all of these with PS5.
I reuse all my shit. Let me guess, you bought the PS4 and it takes dust somewhere doing nothing. Case can be had for free from an old trashed pentium, same with supply. Storage you still need to upgrade your starved 1TB on your PS5 to install all the 200GB current gen games.
You are comparing what you already had with the console. That's not the reason why people buy consoles, because they only need to upgrade 2-3 components. Btw I don't play on consoles, it's just funny to me how biased people can be.
Do you even read, you can get a case, storage and power supply for free. People throw old pcs every day. You don't even need a case to have a working pc. I upgraded like 8 months ago an entire pc with these specs is probably $600 now.
>Do you even read, you can get a case, storage and power supply for free. People throw old pcs every day.
This is beyond ridiculous and you know it. Really a shame you feel you need to be dishonest about this when PC is superior anyway.
Read the entire post retard and yes it's true businesses throw c2d old i3 in landfill every day. I don't even know why I'm arguing with an idiot like you.
Yes when I want to buy a new PC I am going to landfills, you sure showed me. Fucking kek.
Not him but businesses in tech will buy brand new machines every year because they can write them off as expenses so that's less money to pay tax on
The existing machines are often sold for next to nothing to friends and family
So in a discussion about the pros and cons of PC vs console the argument for PC is "you can buy it for about the same price as console, just have family in a corporation that will soon sell their PCs"? Alright.
I got an emulator, so it's at least good enough.
Since I can do a million other things with it besides watching movie games, yes, my PC from 2014 is better than a PS5.
And even if my rig WASN’T as powerful..well I have a console more powerful than a Pissstation 5
kill your attention whore fatso
it's probably more powerful than the next playstation or xbox
My PC is almost identical to current gen consoles in terms of hardware power but consistantly out performs them significantly, the only time that's not been the case is with Jedi Survivor
My PC cost £1000 5 years ago, PS5 were going for that in the first few months of release
All of that on top of the fact I can mod almost any game I like and fuck with various settings myself where devs inflict shitty settings like motion blur etc that you can't turn off in many games, on pc you can - combined with the fact we get cheaper games, aren't required to pay for online and access to far more rebust peripherals, anyone who actually enjoys games as a hobby needs a PC
how did you get a 6700xt 5 years ago?
2080ti, outperforms the PS5 on every game without any upscaling or low graphics fuckery
Like, every PC is better, because of not being forced to use gaympad, but yeah, hardware-wise my PC is better.
Yes I live north of the equator.
My PC is better than a PS5 and will last me a decade minimum. In two years you will have to buy a PS6.
Also, I can make cute and funny AI generated images on my PC.
I have a 4080, but I'm considering buying a 4090 and running them both so I have more VRAM for AI stuff.
>ahh, but the thing you own is inferior to the thing you claim is bad, there for that means the bad thing is actually good!
Imagine being so fucking retarded and salty that you think this is a good comback and somehow also proves you right. Sony morons are honestly dumber than fucking morons.
PS5 has no gaems. Rift Apart was meant to be a PS5 exclusive but it's the first R&C game in the franchise to be released on PC. Demon's Souls "remake" is a PS3 game but with a new coat of paint and a worse art direction than the original. I don't care about the moron slop games that much either. The Playstation 5 and PC parts are worth their weight in gold thanks to the Russo-Ukrainian War.
>ryzen 5 2600x
>16 gb ddr4 ram 3200mhz
>adata's S70 1tb NVME 7.400 MB/s
unironically yes, my pc is better than a snoyshart5. and it's not even that good of a pc anymore lmao.
explain why those specs aren't better than the ps5? The gpu alone is the ps5's price.
PS5 gpu is equivalent to the 2070 super and cpu is equivalent to a ryzen 3600
ryzen 2600x is only marginally behind the 3600 and with bios updates and overclocking it's basically the same or even better.
same for the GPU.
my ssd is still better than the default pshart5 and I have faster ram that isn't shared between the GPU and CPU unlike the pshart 5.
my pc is better than a PS5 because it has games on it
I only play 20 year old games.
My PC cost $1800 total from scratch to build in 2020.
I am capable of playing all titles the PC has to offer at high resolutions and framerates. I am capable of emulating almost every console that has existed, even arcade machines if I wanted.
I am capable of using the versatility of the platform to mod and customize my gaming experience. I can even play on unorthodox aspect ratios like 21:9 if the game supports it.
I have gotten more mileage out of both of my gaming PCs than I have any console.
That isn't even accounting for any of the other services my computer offers, music listening, video watching, web browsing.. etc.
Also, console gaming has been a massive blight on gaming since the 7th generation, greedy devs want to make sure they touch the market so they always end up cutting ambitious ideas because your Brazilian station couldn't handle it.
tldr; u gay, and u wasted money on a shitbox lmao
Doesn't have to be, there's a whole trove of games to play on PC that PS5 won't ever be able to play, plus there's more utility to a PC so that's why I prefer it more
>A 4k pc is better than a 500dollar ps5 with 3500dollar worth of multiplat games and ps subscription
Fixed that for you
>consolemoron got btfo'd days ago and he is STILL seething at PChads
consolemorons are pathetic lmao
>Finally built PC just to see if I can do it and I always loved computers
>Never going back
The freedom PC gives you is like no other. Consoles simply just cannot give that lock free exploration of hardware/software. It's intimidating at first but trust me just go to PC and built at least once.
console cope gayry is always spectacular to see
>xbox graphix good ps graphix bad
>GRAPHIX ISN'T EVERYTHING!!!!111111
Given a choice of a PC with a 30x0 series or lower GP or PS5 I'd choose the PS5.
You post this shit every single day like a dirty moron and the answer never changes. My computer has been better than a PS5 since it released now fuck off
no pc on earth can match the power of Sony's PlayStation 5
My 7900XT + Ryzen 7 5800X3D are laughing rn
CAN A moron?
i bought my pc 7 years ago for 800$ and its still better than a ps5
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