PCBros.... why aren't we being catered and pampered to anymore? We are THE master race afterall..
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PCBros.... why aren't we being catered and pampered to anymore? We are THE master race afterall..
PCBros.... why aren't we being catered and pampered to anymore? We are THE master race afterall..
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no gamer buys regular zen cpus now now that theyre doing x3D for every generation.
This. We know the 3D cache Ryzen 7000 CPUs are right around the corner.
AMD should have released a 7600X 3D on launch for $300.
It would be sold out for months.
Exactly. 3D cache is the new 'dual core' amidst a sea of new CPUs falling for the same clock war shit that rendered the Pentium 4 into a joke.
we all know the x3d is gonna be nowhere near $300
$500 minimal
AMD launched an 8-core 3D cache CPU for less than $500.
3D cache will have to become a standard feature on CPUs.
Die stacking isn't going to become common place for years. It still a massive flat cost increase for packaging complexity. Its a premium feature that will remain on halo SKUs for a long time yet.
When an 8-core CPU had already dropped to $300.
>Keep making new hardware
>More expensive hardware
>Ridiculously expensive hardware
>When nothing being made even begins to justify it
>PC hardware outpaces the computational requirements of endless console ports
>Only people buying it are bitcoin miners
>Performance problems would be remedied if developers actually knew a thing about the engine they're working with
>BUT WHY ARE YOU NOT BUYING THE HARDWARE
>highest consumer cpu used to cost 350 dollars
>its now 800
>budget motherboard start a 200 dollars
>ram is 200+
>used to be able to get a 80 class card for 500
>its 1200 now
Admittedly HEDT is dead and what would have previously been HEDT material is now found on consumer grade motherboards, hence the stupid prices
Everything else I agree with
this, pc gaming is going to crash and burn if it continues going at this pace
$200 is the new $100
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I bought a Honda 1100 DCT Rebel and fishing+hunting gear with my PC upgrade money.
best decision I ever made.
AMD is moronic. Should have stopped IMMEDIATELY the production of 5800X3D chips before they released this shit gen into public. Of course people are buying the better and cheaper CPU
No they did the right thing. Currently AM4/Zen3 chips are still selling.
If they stopped the production the sales numbers would've plummeted completely.
>prices literally tripled or quadrupled on every component
>"Why is the market shrinking?"
Ryzen 5k series will be the last CPUs I'll be buying from AMD, not getting the build in spyware shit
spyware?
>Ryzen 6000
6000 will only be released for laptops, they're skipping the desktop variant
Damn we're finally entering the AM5 era?
Because nothing gets cheaper anymore. More power just means more expensive hardware. Everyone ponders to enthusiast market now so it's only natural that their consumer base shrinks accordingly.
Why is the 7 series goddamn 90+ C degrees on stock? Is it for the benchmarks? Apparently undervolting them drops the temps down to 50+ C.
I remember someone saying that it tries to hit max/boost clocks first so you don't have a delay like the one you get when going from base to max.
my 5600x was 85c with the stock cooler
they stopped including their own coolers exactly because they're ineffective. Also, aren't you getting really close to getting throttle'd to hell?
I bought an actual cooler didnt want to risk it. it was that temperature in winter no way it would have survived the summer
They added thermal limit to the boost table.
It doesn't help the IHS is 2mm thicker than before to keep AM4 cooler compatibility.
pc gaming getting big is the single worst thing to ever happen to this industry. pc fanboys are 10x more annoying than any console fanboy
>pc fanboys are 10x more annoying than any console fanboy
>console fanboys making shitposting threads like this while all their games are coming to PC now
what makes you think console fanboys are making threads like this?
you see PC gays argue about shit like this all the time. you homosexuals argue about PC vs consoles, AMD vs Intel, Radeon vs nvidia.
you guys shit on console games but then praise console games when they get ported over.
its all so tiring.
>PCgays are the ones making threads saying PC gaming is dead and has no games
okay anon whatever you say
this is just Ganker crossposting. Amazing how this board is in a better state than that
>need new motherboard and new overpriced RAM in order to upgrade
>new GPUs are more expensive than ever
>power requirements probably would make you to get a new PSU as well
You're almost required to build a new PC
What, you don't want to buy a new pc every year? Bad goy think of poor multitrillion dollar corporations
>consoles have no games anymore, how do we force goys to still buy them?
>just make pcs cost $5000 and have built in hardware taps, that will teach them
Ebin
You think that's bad, just look at their APU range for """7000""" series. Literally selling people rebranded Zen 2 chips lmao
They're not rebranded, Mendocino is a new chip, and its only for Chromebooks.
5000 series is still amazing. Literally zero reason to upgrade
Becouse for gaming you do not need the most shiiny new toy specialy not in the cpu segment where even fricking i5 4460 is able to run new released games.. I did upgrade to i5 12400 from that cpu and while there is diffience if i did not planed to upgrade whole pc i would play it to this day.. and that cpu is what 8 years old? and it was not even gaming cpu... GPU SSD and ram seems to be better investement
There's literally no need for upgrades if you already have at least zen 2
what's the issue with zen 1? My 1600 handles cyberpunk just fine
It's okay to cope, but keep it to yourself.
t. falseflagging consoleBlack person
>t. coping poorgay
The PC master race has spoken, lil' peasant fella. These CPUs do not meet our requirements. Now back to the shadows, with your 3050 level of performance. And take AMD's filth with you while you're at it. HM!
My 3700x and 3060ti run everything I want to paly and will for a few more years before I need to upgrade.
who the frick in PC Gaming needs an AM5 board and chip, other than just to have it? I'm not even saying that they're a bad deal but nothing coming out except for Cyberpunk has been all that demanding on systems.
MUST CONSUME
I am not using PC to play games but to render animations.
Just finished my 5800X3D system. Massive power gains over my old i7 3770K.
PC gaming was some kind of a scam, how have you not realized it
I can't afford a GPU so there's no reason to buy a fast CPU either.
what?
The motherboards are like $200. Who wants to pay that much for a motherboard, really? I've never spent more than $100 for one.
>PCBros.... why aren't we being catered and pampered to anymore? We are THE master race afterall..
What?
AMD fricked up, there is no decline, they simply tried to treat the consumers like morons with their new expensive CPUs that need expensive motherboards and expensive new memories.
All this while the 5000 series not only still is a monster of performance, AMD themselves have the 5800X3D a CPU so fast for gaming that even the newest intel 13th generation can't beat, why the frick anyone would pay premium for a new generation that won't give any significant gain? The people that actually use something like the 7950x already bought it on the first week and that's the people that need them to work.
Nobody fell for it and now they are fricked.
Same shit with NVIDIA and the "4080" GPU line, got caught with their pants down trying to frick the consumers and now they are scrambling to fix the situation while anyone can simply go out there and buy a 3080 12gb that runs everything at 4k with high fps, anything heavier nowadays has DLSS or FSR or the intel equivalent, the industry itself gave the answer to the performance problem while getting greedy with the pandemic+crypto situation and now that things normalized they tough that they could still release anything at any price that it would sold out.
Classic case of greed, and now they are paying the price for it.
>Same shit with NVIDIA and the "4080" GPU line, got caught with their pants down trying to frick the consumers and now they are scrambling to fix the situation while anyone can simply go out there and buy a 3080 12gb that runs everything at 4k with high fps
That's exactly WHY they priced the 4000 series so high. They have a ton of 3000 series stock they want to unload.
Playing games via streaming is getting very popular, all you need is a shitty laptop and internet and you are good to go
All I know is that I bought my bomb ass PC at a relatively good time and this beast will last me at least 5 years without any problems and it's a good feel.