>pirate it with zero expectations
>have an amazing time with it
Just got to NG+ at level 35 and just fucked off to a level 75 system and try to survive with nothing but Old Earth weapons. Having to cut down level 95 Spacers with a wakizashi because I ran out of ammo for my 1911 is f u n.
Game is legit good.
It's easily one of my favorite game experiences from this generation.
cheese brain redditors
>shit writing
>no really, the writing is just millennials writing how they talk, and inserting their garbage politics, and it's not even clever it's just hamfisted, and then conversations just fizzle out like they were unfinished
>persuade system is crap, it's just a dice roll masquerading as a conversation, but you can't string appropriate dialog together, they're just unrelated sentences from different conversations offered up from google translate
>boarding and taking ships is worthless, forcing you to put points into piloting and then making you (a space pirate) pay 98% of the proceeds to the government for "registration" loicense
>further breaking immersion, the same janky bullshit from 20+ years ago is still present, where you'll be interrupted in battle by some NPC who wants to start a conversation
>same bugs from 20+ years ago too, game will freeze or you'll get stuck in an animation like sitting down in a seat, or shooting someone makes them fly out into oblivion like a spinning bowling pin
>ugly, miserable characters who are snarky and just look revolting
>companions are all whiny crybabies, because the new millennial writers are all like that too
>forced homosexuality in questlines, like the gay couple who was "engaged" and was fighting over their engagement ring
>ship building is worthless without mods, they're just rectangles
>did I mention the story is boring? you have no motivation to help anyone, they're all just needy and even the promise of credits is not compelling since every experience in the game is less than enjoyable because of the aforementioned lazy systems, bugs and writing
>can't fly over or land on planets yourself, requires a loading screen despite No Man's Sky figuring out how to do this 10 years ago
Why does Bethesda never improve and only gets worse?
who cares, you don't even land manually in NMS either. If you want a landing simulator just play Outer Wilds
It's by far my favorite loading screen simulator. 10/10 LSSOTY.
If you actually played the game, you'd realize how little that actually matters.
>M+G+R+E
>pick new destination
>X
That's it.
Wanting to install the mod that skips the animations for opening/closing the menus but cbf having to deal with it again once a patch comes out for the game
That's why you pirate Bethesda games.
what patch? they're clearly not in a hurry to make one.
>5 min long quest intro dialogue before you have to warp to quest location
the gameplay is ass and the shitty nature of traveling to quests incessantly absolutely does matter.
The first 5-ish hours are an absolute slog. But it gets exponentially better after that. You can't judge it within the 2 hour refund window, zoomzoom, so pop some ritalin and fire up a torrent client if you actually wanna have fun.
>game gets better after you can no longer refund it
Man that's some massive internalized cope lol
It's almost like it isn't a quick dopamine fix.
It's a fucking Beths RPG anon. You can try and paint it however you like to justify enjoying it but pretending that it's supposed to be a deeper experience is fucking laughable.
That's not what I'm saying you fucking retard. I'm saying it gets good once it opens up. A bunch of shit is hidden behind perk unlocks.
nothing is hidden behind perk unlocks you fucking gay. You can get lock picking and piloting level one in the character creation menu. If you fuck up you can get boost pack and lockpick by level 3 and anyone who has any sense of how to look at words on a fucking screen will do so. That doesnt change how the world or quests operate
>nothing is hidden behind unlocks
>proceeds to describe what is hidden behind unlocks
>all level 1 perks
WOW THE GAME IS SO DIFFERENT AT LEVEL 3 HOLY SHIT YOURE RIGHT!
None of that has anything to do with world building, quests, or exploration
They actually do. Perks unlock new ship and outpost modules, and many give different ways to complete quests.
It's almost like you haven't played the game.
>and many give different ways to complete quests.
Todd's lies. All the perks do is add some flavor dialogue where the NPC either sucks you off for being a mega-brain or calls you a retard until it loops back to the original no perk lines.
So a different way of getting to the solution.
nope. The supplementary dialogue options never advance the story
Yes they do. Wanted passes a persuation check at the GalBank robbery, and Neon Street Rat bypass a fuckton in Neon quests. That's just from my experience.
>Galbank
just checked your bullshit. Wanted doesnt allow you to pass a persuasion check. Just gives you an additional line of dialogue. You still have to make a persuade attempt
Lol! Additionally, the game doesnt even allow you take down the bandits non lethally. The quest will simply not advance if you dont kill them after failing the persuasion. Holy shit this game is fucking retarded.
>p and outpost modules, and many give different ways to complete quests.
There's not a single perk that unlocks a different quest ending. Every quest ends identically because the world is static and doesnt react to what you as a player do, only that you completed or didnt complete quest. It's almost like youre a fucking shill. Outposts are literally padding and serve no purpose other than xp farming and you can beat the game easily with the mantis ship without ever having to upgrade dick. The ship building and outpost systems are completely superfluous and have no impact on the story or any quest whatsoever.
>There's not a single perk that unlocks a different quest ending
That's not what I claimed. They order different ways of solving the quests.
Name one instance where a perk beyond the first tier is necessary or unlocks a different quest ending.
Anything to do with starships.
there are no quests that rely on having a better starship or starship perks unlocked
Try completing a lone wolf ending in a ship with no perks, I dare you.
I did. The first time I played. On very hard. No ship enemies are a threat if you buy upgraded weapons.
See, now I know you're bullshutting
how ? The mantis ship is fast and you can alpha any ship with plasma and targeting the engines or the weapon systems
>targeting the engines or the weapon systems
Isn't targeting a perk though?
yes and no - i mean literally yes, but if you're behind them you break their engines a lot on accident tbh
yeah a tier 1 perk. If your argument is that the game can be completed upon speccing the novice version of a skill (you only need level 1 to target the rest are just faster) specialization system, and that this is indicative of a deep character customization system, well you're retarded.
>or unlocks a different quest ending.
Boy do I have some news for you.
Actually, if you want to complete the Paradiso quest by blowing up the colony ship, that quest outcome is locked behind... pick-pocketing. Yes, you cannot blow up a reactor core without pick-pocketing the card key. You can't persuade the guy to give it to you, you can't just hack into the computer, you can't find a spare keycard lying around, you can't kill the engineer and take it from him because he's essential, you can't just blow up the ship with your own ship, you can't kill everyone on board. You're forced to take a single level of a completely useless perk, it's almost ridiculous how railroaded you are there in a completely nonsensical manner.
you just said you had two other options to complete the quest. At no point in time are you unable to complete a quest due to a lack of specialization
No, that's the ONLY way to get the Paradiso quest ending of blowing up the colony ship. Sure, you can get other ending outcomes, but it's either 1. Letting the Colony Ship settle the planet, or 2. Buying a grav drive for them. If you don't have pickpocketing, you're forced to do one of those two, you CANNOT blow up the ship. Now, because the game is completely static and shallow, the different quest endings have no functional impact on the game, but it is the one (1) singular quest I have found where an ending is locked behind a perk (in a completely nonsensical manner too lmao).
you can pickpocket if someone in your party has pickpocketing so no, you never need to spec the skill
Brilliant, good to know. Well, I guess we're back down to zero (0) quests that require a perk, then.
Any idea if you can use manipulation to make him do it? Got the level 1 skill through the Ryujin questline but haven't had a chance to use it in a quest outside of theirs.
Things aren't "hidden" behind perk unlocks, but something like weapon attachment craft is locked behind the worst tree. Gotta spend 4 skill points to get it
A) That isn't true
B) If you take the fun out of your game and put it behind unlocks AND you aren't making exploitative mobile shit you are making your game worse for literally no reason.
Reading dostoevsky would be the furthest thing anyone would think of as a dopamine fix and yet it didn't take me 5 fucking hours to start enjoying any of his novels. This is the gayest fucking cope I've ever read and an indictment of new releases.
>pirate it
>but i can't refund it then
are you smooth brained all the time or
that's horseshit. Ive done every questline except crimson fleet. Theyre all like that - talk 5 seconds then go here - then go here and do this - and come back and talk for 5 seconds before going somewhere else ad nauseum. There are genuinely like 3 quests that have any significant length to them and theres largely no fucking reason to explore planets outside of those quests. How the can so fundementally fuck up exploration by not putting interesting unique shit into the world is beyond me. Every fucking side quest is a fetch quest or some random radiant "go convince my botanist to come back" while you have to run 1000m across absolute fucking nothingness and goad the gay npc to follow you back type shit. The game is horrendous
Anon, is this your first Bethesda game? The quests are meant to be nothing more than frosting on the cake that is a sandbox experience.
>complain about there being an empty sandbox
>moron retard with 2 IQ remarks on how its supposed to be a sandbox
Bot, AI, or just clinically retarded? I'll let the 22 other posters decide your fate
You complained about the quests not the sandbox experience you gnomish gay moron
>How the can so fundementally fuck up exploration by not putting interesting unique shit into the world is beyond me
fucking have a nice day you ESL retard
>interesting unique shit on 1000 planets
You have your quests in the hubs, the exploration is for shooting and looting.
Cope more moron
>shooting and looting
shooting and looting fucking what? The same mining outpost you see on every fucking planet? moron I can go buy all the ammo and upgrade parts i need in new atlantis in the first fucking zone. The game is so trivial and short, there's never any need to explore, nor is there a reward for doing so since the planets and the random locations are dull and repetitive.
maybe you should travel past first two systems?
Yeah bro i'm sure there's BUCKETS of content when I just-
are a total of 5 laser weapons in the game.
>>One of those is the Cutter.
Oh no.
Oh no no no.
400 million dollars.
>laser
>ignores EM and particle beam
Permanent FO4-brains need to readjust themselves
Wowwww a whole THREE MORE FUCKING WEAPONS, that’s fucking awesome dude 7 energy weapons! Fucking rad dude that’s even better than Shadowrun on the SNES I’m in fucking awe!
>never any need to explore
No need to explore in any Elder Scrolls game either.
>idiot haven't even gotten Calibrated weapons yet
Bet you haven't looted a Beowulf or Starshard either.
I beat the game you retarded moron
You don't beat the game by just getting to NG+
>you don’t beat the fame by beating it
Bravo Todd, your cult is coming along nicely
Can you guys stop saying the N word it's really unnecessary and it triggers my PTSD
>moronFIELD
It’s the gaming equivalent of “I was acting retarded on purpose!”.
Lol I rammed through the Crimson Fleet questline and fucking hated it because of the constant back and forth between NPCs, docking/undocking, fast traveling, opening map to select landing point. Slog slog slog slog slog.
You'd think they would have adapted their game design at some point over the last what 30 fucking years but apparently not
>it gets better after you surpass the refund window!
You are a fucking garden gnome
>5 min long quest intro dialogue before you have to warp to quest location
You must be playing another vidya.
Are you using a 5200 RPM HDD or something?
Whenever somebody says this I immediately assume they are playing on an hdd and/or a PC under spec. Loading for me is literally seconds.
its still loading, fucking retard
Damn, zoomers are so weak they can't handle one second loading screens?
Trying to find any reason to hate the game are we? This is still the weakest argument unless you have a PC from 2005.
The fact that you even have to fight level 95 spacers at level 35 for a challenge should set off some red flags.
>challenge
Dumping more ammo on spongy enemies isnt challenge
Do they deal more damage at higher level gap or just more health?
Making the punishment for a solved problem greater is not increasing the challenge. It is increasing the penalty.
Difficulty sliders as an excuse for making the game actually harder is an annoying trend only pushed because it is simply easier to do.
Higher level enemies do more damage
Was like this in FO4 too where a Super Mutant with a pipe rifle can fuck you if they're a higher level
I agree. The AI is just shit. The enemy placement is shit. There's no feeling of randomness at all.
I play with a mod that lowers the extra HP that characters, both player and NPC, get per level from 20 to 5.
Level 95 Spacers are spongy, but not unbearably, and have weapons that kill me in 1-3 shots. The reason I find this fun is Because I have hundreds of hours in modded STALKER - I wouldn't expect any random riajuu to play like I do.
That damage increase/health decrease is why i enjoyed the survival mode of FO4 so much
Hopefully they implement something similar . Minus no saving without sleeping, reduced carry weight etc.
The game is absolutely built for Survival, with all the foodstuff and mechanics around them. Will probably come with DLC. For now, that mod plus Normal difficulty emulates it pretty well.
Based. Ganker has been super shit lately with all the tortanic shitposting, it's refreshing to see anons enjoy games for a change.
not the worse game I have ever played. Bethesda always does this to me though with really bad launches https://youtu.be/jGL0gk-qjRU
Im on that surveying planet mission , the first one, whatever the fuck it is, and I’m at like 94 percent surveyed, it’s fucking annoying. Any tips for the shitty ass surveying?
Take the perks for it if you wanna do it more than a few times, otherwise just scoot around with a boost pack and your scanner open.
What are you stuck on exactly? There are perks you can get to speed up scanning Fauna and Flora, you have to scan all of them, the minerals and the landmarks to get 100%
I have no doubt in my mind I'll have a lot of fun when the titty mods come out. I just wish it could've been more.
It's already a lot more than recent Bethslop games. Best vanilla Beth game since Oblivion.
This game is a fucking 5/10 AT BEST!
But enough about armored slop
sorry pajeet, claiming you pirated it won't make your shilling any more convincing
The Starborn powers are awesome. I love the game. Bethesda has surpassed their previous works with this masterpiece. Everything is well thoughtout and designed. No wonder Emil is kept as the lead writer over and over again.
I see your sarcasm.
Also
>playing Bethesda games for the story
You're doing this to yourself, anon.
OK, this is going too far. The star born powers are half arsed dragon shouts. And Emil’s writing is the same surface level analysis of “heady themes”. Take Fallout 4 “what is human/consciousness?” Amounted to “robots R gud/bad”.
omg you're kidding right, they don't have magic dragon powers in the space game do they???
obviously not, are you stupid? It's nasapunk, it's meant to be realistic. you have magic star powers
honestly if this was leaked before release I would never believe it was true, I'd just think someone's taking the piss.
also one of the powers is unironicall called "sense star stuff"
>game is legit good
if you liked fallout 4
if you expected roleplaying, then you'll hate it like i do
It's fine for what it is. Good thing you have BG3 then if you wanna autistically roleplay.
>expecting more than fallout 4 = autisically roleplay
lol okay
all roleplay is autistic and the fact that you didn't even considered that makes you a sperg and probably a chud
It's actually the best roleplay experience of any Bethesda game thanks to the traits and numerous factions. Yes, even better than Morrowind
Traits don't do shit for dialogue and the factions are linear.
>Traits don't do shit for dialogue
Blatantly false. You can bypass a bunch of bribes/persuations with the right traits.
>bribes/persuasions
which allows you to continue down the track of this rollercoaster ride of a game
wowie modern quest design
when your quest has "the solution" instead of many solutions, you are not an RPG.
Absolutely false.
I've had my freestar ranger and freestar settler statuses come up in numerous quest dialogues.
>complaining about lack of VATS, the literally "play itself" feature
I'm glad you don't like it.
>>I've had my freestar ranger and freestar settler statuses come up in numerous quest dialogues.
>"wow you are a freestar ranger and settler you are such a special boy can you run along and do the quest now?"
Again, traits don't do shit and factions are linear.
I would be very happy that they removed vats if they actually did literally anything to improve the gunplay.
Literally anything.
At all.
But they fucking didn't.
The gunplay is better than modded FO4, and I don't say that lightly.
Gunpill me, I want to know what makes the gunplay better than FO4
they finally added a toggle aim option
can't wait for them to add a fov slider when skyrim 2 comes out in 5-10 years
I've had both stats and traits either give you more options during a persuasion dialogue tree or outright skip it.
Shit like [Security] checks, [Research Methods] checks, [Neon Street Rat] checks, etc definately exist.
Bethdrones are the most delusional fanbase I have ever made. You retards would pray to a pile of shit if it had a Bethesda logo on it
HAHAHAHAHAHA
I didn't like Fallout 4 at all but I like Starfield
Same, it just feels like they have different target audiences, Fallout 4 felt completely directed to normies who don't play video games.
Fallout 4 had 90% less loading screens, an actual open world, and cohesive game mechanics that were tied together by a central design that wasn't fucked with a million times during development, unlike Starfield. FO4s gunplay is also way better.
>watch stream with below-zero expectation from all the shitposting
>it looks worse than even the shitposters claimed
>not even worth my time to pirate it
i also expected BG3 to suck but that one surprised me
the game is 100% made to be played in third person
No it isn't.
Dont worry the game REALLY opens up later.. Haha.. Ai isn't brain dead at level 95 haha.. You did make that outpost right? Yeah good content...
they barely even tried with melee
gives you hope for elder scrolls right anon?
*sneaks behind you*
*gets close to your ear*
it gets good after 80 hours bloody bastard bich
OP I get your sentiment but it's impossible to shift twitter crowd now, snoys won
all you have to do these days to kill a game is scream loud enough any nonsense you want
It's impossible to have niche products on high budget. I despise Fo4, but I somehow like this game.
on side note, what the hell is with UC? it got prettiest officers, makes you wish to join marines.
>zero ways to play different
>F U N and C O M F Y
I don't know man, have you played bethesda game before? why is everyone acting like it's their first bethesda game?
>This game is shit
>ERMMMMMM WHAT YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT???? ARE YOU NEW??????
it means oblivion skyrim morowind and fo3 are also shit
okay.
No. People are just shocked that they somehow keep fucking regressing. People pan FO3 and Oblivion and Skyrim for a thousand different very valid reasons and they learn nothing from it over a DECADE of development. This was a 400 M I L L I O N D O L L A R GAME. 400,000,000. FOUR. HUNDRED. MILLION. Does it fucking FEEL like that to you? Like holy fuck they should be ashamed. Literally, actually ashamed.
>it means oblivion skyrim morowind and fo3 are also shit
correct
It means that releasing what amounts to a shitty mod of a game that had serious flaws upon release over a decade later is not an effective way to make a good game. You’re literally incapable of judging quality of something because you have no concept of standards. It is not acceptable to release a game of this quality in 2023. Fallout 3’s problems were easy to ignore at the time because it pushed the boundaries of console RPGs at the time, it’s been 15 years since then and the industry has progressed in numerous ways. Do you think anyone would be impressed if System Shock were released in 2008 with no mouse support? Fuck no. 15 years is a long goddamn time, that shit is not acceptable anymore. Neither is this garbage.
now you're getting it
>uh actually Bethesda games are MADE to be shit
I fucking hate you zoomer gays, you infect everything you touch and then retroactively ascribe your nihilistic gayry to the entire history of whatever you have your retard grip stuck to
This every one knows modders do the job for bethesda for free.
I can see where you're coming from, I pirated the game and put maybe 20 hours into it. But I haven't played in 4 or 5 days, after realizing that Starfield is just a kids game. There is no violence, gore, blood is cut down. Everyone wants you to be a good guy, companions are moralfags and the strip club dancers don't even show skin.
SOVL
wow its a randomly generated crater with nothing in it
>put in 10 hours
>gunplay is the shitty bethesda fair without VATS
>exploration is gimped because you can't stumble across shit, everything is loading zones
>have to download mods out the ass to get the game to run properly
>space combat is actually just the most tedious fucking mechanic in existence the moment it becomes more than a 1v1
>resource and mining mechanics that are literally a worse no man's sky.
>above all, the world and lore are incredibly boring.
A 7/10 is generous.
filtered tbh
Good morning sir, yes there is shit filter here please poo in loo
The game is indeed a bore fest. All they needed was a good storyline. A simple war scenario with you able to choose sides ala skyrim. That prequal shit about the "great war" would have been fine.
Simple fact is just because YOU had fun does not make it a good game merely that YOU have SHIT taste!
>billion flies can't be wrong
>turn AF on
>it's suddenly a good game
why do i have to fucking go into an ini to do that, where are the fucking graphics settings
because it breaks shit on their 20 year old engine
i havent seen anything break so far and im pretty sure skyrim had this setting
anisotropic filtering i believe the game is at 2x or off or some shit cause setting it at 16 makes it look 100x better
>AF
Huh?
anisotropy
Is that why you used a google image of the cover and not a ingame screenshot?
The shills are so obvious when they use the exact same 1 image for every thread they make its not even funny
it's a fun enough but the role playing elements clearly suffer under the massive scope of the game. I hope Bethesdal scales things back for TES VI, make it small and more focused.
>have a ship and crew
>go from place to place solving problems
>have superpowers
>be a pirate
this is the best one piece game isn’t it?
>Join pirate faction
>70% of the quest are the goldenglow job from skyrim.
It gets better
>Join SysDef
>Its the Crimson Fleet quest but the game allows you to kill everyone at the end for a pat on the back
>Play the exact same quest line with the exact same quests for the same reward, just to see a different color in charge.
Hell no.
but you are le good guy rather than le bad guy
i still haven't understood what each of these factions really stand for on the scale. who are the bad guys? they all seem so fuckin, bland
You guys think it will be possible to make ship combat/flight more realistic with mods?
>pirate it
>still bored and dissapointed
i justcwant the feelings i got when i first started oblivion/FO3/skyrim
maybe vidya just isnt for me anymore
Something I've been using lately to detect shill posts on every site is this:
>put in game (I have moderate to low expectations btw)
>character creator is actually pretty epic
>all of a sudden im fighting pirates woah
>then I get some litty loot thats actually fun
>its crazy i got lost doing this EPIC quest line
>details details details
>then I traded in all my FungerCoin to afford the Bababooey ship and I go totally off track
>details details details padding padding
>get to level 60 and start fighting Mario and Im running low on health and I have to whip out my secret weapon details details details telling a story nobody cares about
>and yeah the game is fucking awesome and I think I'm #obsessed
cons
>they made oblivion again
>menus and combat are jank
>over 100 GB wtf
>use ssd or get fucked
>new lockpick minigame sucks ass
>starefield npc towns are weird
pros
>comfy space game
>neat world building
>cool story about artifacts
>a lot of quests like goddamn
>new lockpick minigame sucks ass
it's good
its just a time waste
Yea do that 100 times itz so fun
It's not
>a lot of quests like goddamn
most of it is radiant garbage
>new lockpick minigame sucks ass
bro what? It's great.
>>neat world building
go through the UC museum again and ask yourself if the worldbuilding is good
>menus and combat are jank
The combat is pretty good, it's main problem is lack of enemy variety
The new lockpick minigame is literally, and I am not joking in the slightest, the ONLY innovative thing done in the entire game. The gunplay, ship building, outpost system etc. have all either been done much better in other Bethesda titles or done much much better in contemporary titles in the genre.
none of those pros are pros else you would be playing no mans sky instead
I like how you took that screenshot as you think it bugged but you just done it wrong
>new lockpick minigame sucks ass
its great
>a lot of quests like goddamn
there's probably like 15 at most
I liked the game. I like most bethesda formula games. But i need that formula in a fallout or elder scrolls world. I need real cities, with minor villages, with Npcs travelling along roads and not just grouped up in POIs. I need life in my videogame
The game would have been impressive if it released in 2013.
>todd makes popular game
>he makes a sequel and nother game
>10-20 years later ask him to make another game
>he's now an old man with no new ideas
>he makes the same game he made back in his youth
not sure what they expected
Todd has never had a new idea. He didn't come up with Elder Scrolls, and he ruined Fallout. The first time he is tasked with creating an original work, this is the shit he came up with. An absolute embarrassment.
Yeah fuck the outpost stuff I'll deal with this shit when I'm in endgame with millions of credits, way too much effort to get going at low levels.
The same retards malding ITT will put 500h into the game over the next decade
>The same retards malding ITT will put 500h into the game over the next decade
Im not malding but the decade part got me.
after rerolling a couple times im like 60-70 hours into my playthrough and havent really even seen tier 2 stuff yet , so i cant comment on scaling or how late game is but things are fundamentally broken and useless, and poorly implemented
like, food is useless, "resources" are useless, mining is utterly worthless, building an outpost is not convenient, or even a well made experience,
exploration is really bad as well, having to travel on foot is so stupid
i ended up installing mods to fix what sucked about the game, sped up captain's seat animation, outpost hatch opening speeds, the star UI which is god tier and infinitely better than the trash UI bethesda thought was "good enough"
2 biggest issues in the gameplay loop i modded to "tweak" or cheat. vendors having more money, and cargo size of your ship multiplied by 3.
the whole scrambling to various vendors to sell your crap or waiting game for vendors restocking was wasting so much time and energy. Cargo size of the ship because I think a fucking space ship with massive cargo containers should be able to store more than 1k weight of items
i think after a ton of patches, dlc and updates, this game will be great, but right now, fuck me, a lot of fixes need to be made. community doing more work than bethesda, who hasnt said shit since launch. worthless company not even putting out patches yet when there are game breaking bugs that lock you out of main story quest
game is limited by its quest design and is thus doomed to a fate like fallout 4
the funny thing is, the whole gameplay loop where you sell a bunch of random shit is totally uneccessary. Early game you can get by with just the cutter, and then later on youll have enough money to never need to pick up a thing. I stopped picking shit up other than things that'd sell for like 2k+ after a few hrs.
you get cargo delivery missions for 1000+ weight in cargo which makes storage management even worse
I have maxed star ship design, and piloting and there is almost nothing in terms of cargo space
nothing i mentioned has anything to do with quest design
most these things could have been easily fixed before launching, i think its just so telling when the community can do a better job in less than a week, than bethesda could do in 10 years
The game is fundamentally flawed because of the quest design combined with the "world" design. You're not going on an overland hike and seeing some weird POI off in the distance and getting distracted, you're picking up a quest, fast-traveling to the general area, walking through a desolate wasteland for a bit, then fast-traveling back. The basic design just isn't fun.
i hope they will add survival mode like in fallout 4, something to make food and drink useful
and yeah, huge time waste trying to find places to sell loot
i somehow stole an armor set worth +10k from the nerd's basement because the glass display had a one pixel wide line opening it in
Is this moron actually arguing that softlocking yourself out of content is a good thing?
>have zero expectations
>don't buy it or pirate it
>play older games that are far better
Feels good man
>have zero expectations
>don't buy it or pirate it
>half a dozen fun games have come out within the past month or so
Holy shit this is a literal shill thread
what would you like to talk about you flaming homo
the limited money thing is tedious so i finally just broke and got a mod that tripled their money. I still end up coming back with like 500 weight in shit and needing to use more than one vendor, but my god only 5k-10k is way too low, especially when the game shits out 12lb suits worth 10k and ships cost 700k
you don't play video games, do you
i should go do this quest line, i just finished the ranger one
all the faction questlines are great (except the ranger one it's completely shit) and would have made a great story game on their own. Have fun whatever faction questline you're going to.
>Emil nonstop gushing during prerelease that the rangers and akila city are his pet project
>it's unanimously agreed to be the weakest faction quest by far
you cant make this shit up
lmao that explains a lot, only a certified midwit like him would think space cowboys doing the blandest cowboy tv episode would be a good story.
I don’t play shitty games no, sorry anon
what games do you play
Honkai and FFXIV
Angry Stick and Barkley Shut Up And Jam
>Dont play shitty games
>but still the same amount of time trying to shit on a game you already know is shit instead of playing a nonshit game
you do realize that you're losing here right?
I assure you, I spend less time telling you your shit game is shit than it takes you to set up yet another gay little outpost on another procedurally generated barren rock for the thousandth time. If you call that winning, you can win all day gay
It's the most obvious shill I've ever read and yet these absolute morons of men on Ganker fall for it and engage with it sincerely. What the hell
what's it like being a smoothbrained retard for a living who thinks that 4gay is some psyop for a game that has had millions of people playing it at 1230am on a tuesday evening? you have serious issues with your brain you dumb gay
The only publicly-available statistics show the game doing poorly though
what does that even mean and how does it relate to a popular game having posts on 4gay
You’re saying it’s had millions of people playing it. I’m just saying the only sources that we can access don’t really show that. Starfield doesn’t seem that popular my guy.
it did have millions by starfields own admissions.
our metrics that we have visible - which doesn't include gaypass or xbox - show there was several hundred thousand CONCURRENT players, which is an amount at any given time. Again, from other games announcements from their total sales vs concurrent peaks, we know it has millions of players. Example: harry potter had 15 million sales with a peak of 800k. BG3 sold 2.5 million before it even launched and also peaked at 800k?
So 6 million from bethesda doesn't seem remotely far off.
It showed under 300,000 concurrent players. That is nowhere near several million people. It had millions by the admission of Starfield, with no statement what being a player actually entails. This is par for the course for these entertainment companies with their streaming services. They make spurious claims and vague terminology to trick people into thinking their failures are successes. Case in point, players could mean just about anything, just like viewers on Disney+ can mean just about anything. It has low viewership and playerbase in every single metric that you or I can look at. There is no game I am aware of that can be publicly viewed which is unpopular everywhere else but is still a success on consoles, but enlighten me if you are aware of any
The Ganker demographic changed a lot over the years, now we have a lot of gullible zoomers who are scared of being called schizo by shills and don't understand how psyops work.
Meds now.
zoomers are the ones calling people liking a game shilling or a discord raid. just go over to Ganker and say something bad about zoomies favourite game gen5 they will all sperg out and call you a discord raider
>Ganker
This board is boomer/millenial central, only nostalgiagays can handle buying games as ugly and broken as scat/vomit.
>nostalgiagays
it has always been nostalgiafags
>How DARE you make threads about videogames
>make the 14573464th Twitter thread instead!
>looting and selling stuff is fun
>but i have limited carry capacity and vendors have limited money
>i could use cheats to give myself more capacity
>or just give myself all the money i want, but that isn't fun
>todd could have given us a pocket dimension bag for carrying unlimited shit and given vendors unlimited money
>that would be fun
>no no no no that's not realistic
well the mods i used fixes both those aspects. making it like 3x the cargo size is more "realistic" and immersive than 1k weight after massive cargo containers are added to your ship,
the vendors i did like 2x their money , which is just a time saver, sitting around literally just sleeping for days to wait for a vendor reset like a robot is such an awful experience.
after you solve those 2 issues, you focus more on the game itself, and not that awful loop of always being struggling to sell stuff
>no no no no that's not realistic
The setting really isn’t enough to carry this decision, Fallout and Elder Scrolls would pick up the slack but space shit just sucks, really drives home just how basic it all is. A lot of bewildering choices behind this game, like they heard the “shallow as a puddle” and errand boy critiques and steered into them. Will frequently experience good atmosphere but it’s not deeper than a screenshot.
>set carry weight 500
>pick up ton of shit, hoard ammo and resources
>game now stutters when switching weapons due to too many things in inventory
TOOOODDDDDDDD!
i didn't experience this and frequently hav elike 1000+ mass in my inv kek
it's not about mass but the amount of items. ammo has no mass but if you get 10000+ it'll stutter
Spend 4 points on weight lifting and you will be gimped in other areas. You will only gain 100 more carry capacity.
Use the spacesuit, pack and helmet for carrying and you gimp yourself in defense and other things.
And then there's the 4 points for ships capacity.
Not as bad as the 4 points above but again its not 4 points in shields or something fun.
Finished the Crimson Fleet questline, really great bunch of quests the whole way there. Im surprised at the amount of ways you could have completed them but I feel disappointed at the ending due to choosing the wrong side. Maybe I'll pick someone else the next time.
Game needs more ass and thighs
>vendor chests are always underground, and can be easily exploited ruining the trading system
>no hidden inventory for each seller
>can easily clip anywhere and go out of bounds
Kek, nice "game".
>you can cheat in single player game
news at 11 you dumb homo. you can also just give yourself inifinite money any time you want
i liked the shootout the rangers gave me at least, but i really wanted to side with the First tbh, so kinda gay i couldn't. Kinda spoiled by bg3 and it's 'choices' of who to support, bethesda has a bit of a habit of shoehorning you into 'you support this faction no matter what' for a lot of their stuff
>dude just give yourself infinite money, just cheat bro, it's just a singleplayer game bro
The absolute state. There's a difference when the game allows you to easily exploit for the sake of it, and losses the sense of having a trading system in the first place.
In this case, the game is flawed and needs to be patched.
There isn't a difference
you want to exploit a game and not call it cheating but you don't want to cheat because that's exploiting
you can easily just not spend a minute trying to no clip through shit in a game that literally lets you hit
~
tcl
and no clip through shit to steal while complaining about it. Just don't do it, and if you're going to, just enable no clip like i said above and save yourself the effort. what a gay you are lmao
Just cheat to finish this awful game. I would've done the same.
Clipping through walls is something that can achieved easily. There's also an issue with clipping through floors by accident or just having common collision issues to get this exploit working. Anyway, having to use the console commands in the first place just defeats any purpose of finishing this tedious game aside from just fucking around or testing something.
*rolls my eyes*
Kek alright Bethesdrone. I can see your sarcasm a mile away.
Anon I think you are just confused. There isn't a BDF anywhere on this site, it's just your original complaint was retarded and you are being mocked for it.
Understand that even people who agree with you can find your argument for why _____ is stupid and try and correct it. It comes from the idea that you are supposed to shit on anything awful rather than agree with anything that supports you.
It's honestly the superior approach and leads to less insanity in the "culture war", but we've found ourselves in a race to the bottom so the extremes get all the power.
hitting ~ and typing tcl is also easy, you always had that ability. you can hit ~ and do anything. the game doesn't care if you cheat, it's single player. If you want to cheat and then complain it isn't fun because you cheated, you're just a dumb gay. Cheating is fun, enjoy it.
>yeah bro, deliberately using developer tools and console and cheats are totally the same thing as the developers being to lazy to fix collisions
If you're in the mindset to exploit and intentionally use less efficient tools while boasting superiority, you are going to be mocked for it. I am not the poster you were responding to, but I am going to lay down the pragmatic law. You can argue with me if you wish, but I am ultimately correct and you will see this.
It's not easily exploited lmfao. It's doing an out of bounds glitch and taking a fucking journey to the vendor chest. Console commands would be less effort. The worst aspect is the collision issue and that's about it
>that fast walk after the second steal
fukin kek
I found that occasionally, cause you dont need to climb to the window. There is a hole in the grass on the lower level I fell through, trying to enter that building (you cant, as you see its empty inside).
After getting stuff from these shops, I realized how shitty game inventory is.
Biggest container you can slap to a ship there is 300kg, while MCs pockets are 135, even though it's a floor-sized fucking container.
But thats not the worst thing - Todd was expecting you would just buy many of them like a smartass you are. Jokes on you you cant just slap container to a container, fuck off!
And the containers you build at the planets are 75kg each (They look like 2x2x2 meters). I've built a tutorial base and never touched that shit again.
>and go out of bounds
Yeah you can clearly walk through "districts" here.
Todd just added loading screens cause he hates his paypigs.
>wtf why is there a loading screen I want to watch my character teleport
>vendor chests are still a thing
jesus christ, they aren't even trying
but normies will still lap it up
of course its still a thing why would they change it
why is everyone using this same square head white skirt armour?
Is everybody bisexual in this game?
no, i've only found one gay couple so far in the ~30 hours i've played. most are straight.
I mean the companions.
oh, idk , i don't do that gay shit lol people who romance are fags
> The first Black guy you see is a homosexual who his "husband" is dead.
>The white cowboy guy is a bisexual who his a daughter from a female ex lover btw They made the underage girl a brown girl in the game even if Her father and mother are white and her mother is a redheaded female btw outside of the game the girl is a white ginger girl.
THIS are on the top of my head I can Tell you about but There other Characters who you can and can't romance as a companion to you.
WHAT THE FUCK DID TODD MEAN BY THIS AGHHHHHH
HOLY SHIT THIS IS DISGUSTING
>the game is fun
Are you fucking kidding me? Larian poured their blood sweat in tears into a game that has all the objective measures of what makes a game good and you fucking pajeets are over here praising this slop because of buzzwords like "fun"
>inb4 hurr durr cuck
Wow so original, sorry someone made a game where women like shadowheart have autonomy over their own bodies and express their sexual history and natural interest in other men instead of just being an incel fantasy where a MILF and a Latina fall in love with you because you explored space together or something
Bethesdrones really are pathetic currycels
tl;dr
Cuck
the only way to have zero expectations
is if you have not played a videogame before
ive been playing this game in a fugue state for almost a week now trying to have fun. I know there's fun in there somewhere and I want to have it, so I can't stop trying it until I at least beat the main quest.
It's just a slurry of better games' ideas, packed in without effort.
>scanning from No Man's Sky but instead of scanning infinite random-gen creatures or plants you are scanning Ted the Intern's handcrafted stickbug alien eight times per planet
>Planet-sized maps but no ground vehicles or in-atmosphere ship flight, so you just hold the W key for kilometer after kilometer of actual wasteland
>Combat straight from FO4 but without half of FO4's mechanics, like VATS and limb damage.
>Melee is indie game tier; stiff, animations and sounds consistently out of sync, no sprinting attack--if you try to attack while sprinting it just cancels your sprint and your character awaits further input
>radiant quests pay you a formulaic sum of money and experience, so if you don't need money and you aren't close to leveling you will have to force yourself to care
>every other NPC has crackhead faces straight out of Andromeda
>companions have no personality, can't remember any names besides the robot's
>it's just loading screens all the way down, have to download mods to make the game's pacing kinda normalish
nice blog post
You get it OP. On my way to NG+6, every time is a blast
I've played for 60 hours and I'm still finding new POIs. Found my first civilian post, it's basically a proc Gen village. Wish they offered local work but the trader has a lot of credits so I'm gonna base here for a bit, scavenge shit to sell and keep working on my zoology.
do outposts offer local work? as far as i know you have to hit up a mission board in a bar or at a faction
Some random civ outposts have mission boards or just some minor quests
Don't know. So far it's been the mission boards but I know labs and camps will have npcs give you local quests. One lab had me find one of their missing workers and then help them fix their power system. Another lab had me search for a botanist who ran off after an argument.
This game genuinely has too many quests.
>This game genuinely has too many quests.
most of it is fetch quest tier
>pirate it
>have fun
Ok, now tell me, is it 70 dollars fun?
Nah. Maybe in a couple years mods will fix the worst of what's wrong with it.
Yeah, what I figured. Claiming a pirated game is fun is like claiming a game is fun with friends. It's a meaningless statement.
Yeah but you're still better off pirating it if you can because Starfield absolutely filters people hard by not explaining things and throwing you into the deep end with a dozen systems you'll have to slowly figure out. When people say the more you play it the more you have fun, it's because the more you learn about the various gameplay systems and find the things you enjoy, the more you get out of it when it all works in tandem to create more fun for you.
Unless you know you wont get filtered, just pirate it first.
if you need an explanation for "go over there and shoot things", you might be retarded
It's more about figuring out the systems that let you go over there in the first place.
>Starfield absolutely filters people hard by not explaining things and throwing you into the deep end with a dozen systems
what are people even getting filtered by everything in this game except the ship builder/contrband smuggling is standrd bethesda mechanics
honestly, it is for me, but meh. might as well wait for a sale and keep playing pirated. I'm playing on gay pass.
bffr
i wont even install this 4free. fuck you todd you are not taking the most important thing from me: time
>doing the colony ship quest
>all these named side NPCs throughout the ship you can just chat up marveling at meeting a future human
Woah it's starting to feel like an RPG or something.
If you did new homestead first you would have gotten an alien suit that you could have used during that quest which elicit a lot of unique reactions.
That would be funny, maybe in another playthrough.
>Game is legit good.
>go to another new NG+
>immediately jump to distant sytem to raid a high level base for gear
>ship lands nearby
>kill crew, steal ship and take off
>now realise the ship is shit and has limited jump range
>literally stuck in two systems unable to jump any further
>can't swtich back to NG+ ship without being able to go to ship tech
>now have to keep hunting for a better ship to be able to escape
>find a landed UC civilan ship, looks pretty big
>have to kill all the civilians to take it
>rack up a big UC bounty
>forget I have the bounty and go back to The Eye
>immediately get arrested
>agree to go undercover to get free, knowing full well I'll be fleeing to another universe
NG+ is kino
Enemies cannot understand the basics of flanking. Every combat encounter is a joke when you just flank them and magdump their asshole. So just put your perks into everything else. Aside from that it is an okay game I guess.
I really hope this colony ship quest is a multi-chain quest because I'm way too invested now. I love quests that are just talking to NPCs and getting snapshots of how they live and do stuff.
bad news 🙁
DAG
theres 20 companions, theres bound for 1 to be evil or neutral, right?
im only goin vasco or adoring fan from now on. i dont need anymore of samanthas shit
You'll get another companion that's a bit more neutral.
>theres 20 companions, theres bound for 1 to be evil or neutral, right?
dani garcia on neon doesnt care about killing people and will gift you money and drugs.
shes also a chud but for once it actually makes sense since her druggy ass stole a bunch of credits pissed off a bunch of people on neon walked into enhance and got a new look and fake name. joins just to get the fuck off the planet.
ill take a robot dogmeat man
you cant stick armor and backpacks with extra carryweight mods on vasco
fuckin lame. give us a robot that can then. how about twice the carry weight but cant fight like the roomba bots you see in mars
>Cabernet Chunkingon
Holy kek that caught me off guard.
any must-have mods yet that aren't related to graphics or performance and bugs?
there's a UI mod that makes it significantly easier to parse your inventory, starUI i think it's called?
Otherwise, the extra credits from vendors make the game more bearable in terms of not having to shop around or wait 48 hours to refill their credits.
My favorite part is the AI from morrowind still making an appearance. Sure, modern games have enemies that react to what you are doing, what weapons they have, and try and use tactics. But When I'm shooting people I want them to either just run straight at me or crouch down beheind an office chair and refuse to move.
All difficulty and challenge in FPS games should be expressed solely and exclusively in terms of healthbar size. It's just good game design. Want a harder enemy? Take a normal enemy and make it's health bar 4x bigger!
And don't get me started on how many ugly morons are in the game. So diverse! I barely even saw a white devil!
>My favorite part is the AI from morrowind still making an appearance. Sure, modern games have enemies that react to what you are doing, what weapons they have, and try and use tactics. But When I'm shooting people I want them to either just run straight at me or crouch down beheind an office chair and refuse to move.
literally all these spacers early on so far in these dog shit fuckin layouts with trash everywhere.
shoot them and they run pissing their pants, even going halfway around the world to hide. cant call that strategic ai with how squirrely these fuckers are
you really gotta play aggressive with them and it's super frustrating without any VATS on xbone
There are some AI overhaul mods that are supposedly pretty good, haven't tried them yet.
If the game needs mods to be a proper playable game, then it's not worth any money.
i'm torn on this because there's a ton of games that are playable, not just bethesda games, that are just significantly better with mods. Like, i'm 30 ish hours into starfield and it's great - no mods, i don't have any issues. But my god there's some mods that would make the game a lot better, and i don't really have any reason not to use them to better my experience.
Plate up is an example of a perfectly fine game without mods, but elevated with mods.
cool
i like that the npcs have enormous jump height and can actually use a cover system to the point where i have to pinpoint a tiny pixel on their helmet in a complete fucky setting or dark cave
AI in morrowind would atleast use different spells from time to time
when are we getting a galactic conquest mod?
hopefully its not impossible to get an AI ship companion following you to help in space fights. if that works without doing a bunch of fucky buggy shit then it could lead to big fleet battles with multiple wingmen, maybe even customizing their ship as well.
>hopefully its not impossible to get an AI ship companion following you to help in space fights
Ive had my old ship help kill new ships that jumped in after i stole a new ship.
it should be possible
there a way to adjust the range of my third person camera with pad?
its only up close on your fuckin shoulder, or just in the distance where i really cant see shit
I would like the game if my C drive didn't have 100% uptime and I can't figure WTF to do after trying everything but reinstalling windows. Rank over
wait, this game has NG+? I'm level 32 right now and avoiding the main quest because I expected it to just do the old Bethesda shit and stop right at the end, I don't even have Powers yet
NG+ is a gigantic part of the main plot
spoil it for me, wdym
You see these shitty quests? Well some of these continue across NG+.
Big fucking deal, eh?
huh. I wonder when i should go do that, i guess. i was trying to complete all the quests before i went to NG+..
>Le HECKIN discount fallout 4
>In SPACE!!
You become le HECKIN Starborn aka dragonborn because of the artifacts and then you shout like a Bitch who about to be raped while you doing another fetch or radiant quest for 100th time by then you be searching the same cave for minerals in the same planet but the planet name is not the same now.
Ng+ and further have substantiall main plot differencess and bunch of new dialouge options
Absolutely destroyed Snoy minds to the point they support the Chinese for a chance at their botted CRPG winning anything. It's hilarious when the critical scores should be reversed.
Hope Microsoft learn something from this. There is no free market in gaming marketing. If they steamroll the CMA next month I'll believe they have a shot at turning things around.
>Get on ship to hijack it
>It takes off
>I'm in fucking space
TODD
DIDN'T
LIE
I jumped on a ship and killed everyone on board, then left because i didn't need anything from it / the ship itself. as soon as i got off, it took off, which made me laugh my ass off - who was flying the ship?
i did the same thing except it started attacking the second i undocked.
everyone was dead though
spooky ghost ship had to be double killed
It might be a good Bethesda game, it's not a good space exploration game. It's possibly one of the worst.
Also it's so buggy I can barely play it anymore. Pic related, I can no longer clear bounties or take missions in New Alexandria, and the benches where crew members spawns were gone at this point too.
On some occasions, the game gets stuck while in conversation with a spaceship as well, forcing me to reload a savegame, which in turn makes everything different because events are so fucking random.
Now I got the benches back, but the two kiosks seem gone for good.
NG+ is the only mechanic Bethesda found to hard reset the world and fix all the bugs.
Why does the game have worse space combat than a game from 25 years ago (wing commander prophecy)
can starfield enjoyers explain what exactly is fun about the game?
>warp to random planets
>get hailed for silly reasons
>blow up some space ships
>land on some random ass icon on the planet
>walk to a random POI, get a distress signal
>goes on a 4 planet mission hopping fiesta helping farmers kill off spacers
>enjoy that
>go on 4chins
>people tell me i'm not having fun
>go back to some other planet and help a bounty hunter bring down a pirate which gave a recording of some other random secret pirate stronghold
>check 4chin, they still tell me i'm not having fun
>fuck up my ship with 4 engines on one side, ship flies all retarded and lopsided
>stream it for my friend to show him my stupid ass ship and we both laugh very hard
>throw a box into another box and it fucks up the physics and instantly kills one of my crew members who flies through the ship mid flight
>laugh harder
>check 4chins
>i'm still not supposed to have fun
idk what you guys want sometimes, it's just a game. if you don't have fun, dont' play it. pretty simple
>coming to Ganker after a game that's not on Sony systems comes out
>it's also a big deal
>suddenly a loud retarded minority of people are bitching and whining incessantly
>even seeing some threads about Outer Worlds popping up trying to suggest it's better than we think
the Snoyboys are wallowing in their L, just ignore them, I have my gripes with Starfield, but they don't detract from the experience I'm having
that kinda explains a lot
i'd certainly be having more fun if i had bought this game (playing on gaypass) than I was after buying d4.
d4 was a gigantic waste of $70 and the last blizzard game i ever purchase.
Delusional as fuck.
It's the same People who where shitting on TOTK and cyberpunk and eldenring who now are shitting on starfield.
These People don't play games anymore, they just spread hate.
Stop letting Sony live rentfree in your head, your looking for thing that are not there.
it's not Sony's fault that their fans are the worst fanbase on the internet, and I've been around the block long enough to see the pattern.
I'm a "Sony" fan, and i'm playing starfield on pc right now.
And the paterns your claiming to see don't exist.
Ganker has made "snoys" the boogyman while most Sony gamers left this place a long time ago because it's impossible to talk about a Sony exclusive here.
Same with bloodborne threads, most of those threads were full of shitposters who never even played the game and the retards who fell for their bait.
Your no better then a garden gnome crying about "muh nazi's" 70 years later.
you arguments are just proving our beliefs about you, you know.
You have no opinion of your own, you just repeat the most popular meme's and bait you see here.
I'm above you, i can play all the best MS games on my PC, i can emulate all the best switch games, i can play all the best PS games on my hacked PS3&4
Your a small minded console war gay who just likes to repeat the shit you read here that other smoothbrain retards like you shitpost here.
you're above me but you can't even use English correctly?
It's not my native language, you mutt, i can speak dutch, french, German and English.
>mutt
Australian, but nice try, and your entire argument hinges on 'I don't do that and I'm a Sony Fan so fuck you', you're calling me the one who's small minded? you're pulling the 'no true scotsman' fallacy to excuse the bad behaviour of other people who you've never even met.
you aren't above anyone if you resort to that, you're trying to prove a negative and just making yourself look like an ass.
Your the one here trying to enforce the lie that snoys are the reason why we cant have nice things on Ganker, not me.
Seriously, i know your kind all too well, you come in to every thread on Ganker and completly unrelated to the topic of the thread you start bitching about "muh Sony"
Just like this thread, about starfield
>People are talking shit about starfield
>Must be Sony fanboys
Like it's the first thing that pops in to your mind.
Rentfree.
Do you?
I say that Snoys are bitching about Starfield, and you act like I'm saying that about every time anything negative is said on Ganker all of a sudden
>big game comes out
>lots of people are talking about it
>Sony purists (IE: people who aren't you, who are willing to play the game on PC) freak out about not being able to play the game
>convince themselves it's shit
>go out of their way to say it's shit on Ganker
it happens literally every time, and you are actually blind if you can't see it.
You can say that about any fanbase.
I'm pretty sure that most Xbox and switch gamers would have had Fun with ghost of tsushima but instead here on Ganker anons call it a asscreed Clone, something only somebody who never played it would say.
I stand by my opinion that Ganker has made Sony fans the boogyman here, and it has becomes so bad that anons here even start falling for weak bait from shitposters who act as snoys.
that's the funny thing about being anonymous on the internet, you can pretend to be whoever you want. And yes, you have a point about that, I have a PS4 myself, I haven't played it yet myself, but I've not commented on the game, I won't excuse the people who did that, though.
if it came down to personal tastes and feelings I get the feeling I could shock a lot of people by saying one of my favorite Sony games is Days Gone, genuinely think the setting is great and that the Freakers are a lot more interesting than a lot of other infected/zombies anyone else has made.
Haven't played days gone yet myself.
But as a "Sony fan" i can tell you to stay away from TLOU2 and uncharted 4, play death stranding of bloodborne if you haven't yet.
Anyway, back to starfield.
I'm happy all the mods so far work on the pirate version of starfield.
The slim UI mod for example saved so much time.
I played tsushima and it is a asscreed clone? open world consists of follow 30th fox, auto uncharted platforming to shrines, clear bandit camps etc.
big disappointment to me tbh after all the hype it got.
it means 'mixed-breed' that isn't officially recognized, and it's usually used on Ganker as an insult against American users.
it's incredibly ironic coming from someone with your mixed cultural heritage if you're quad linquistic, as it's pretty much you self-reporting in text when you could have simply said nothing, if you were simply an ESL it would have been one thing, but with all of that, it pretty much guarantees you're some kind of mix.
Anon, i live in Belgium, a nation inbetween France, England, Germany, and Holland.
By your logic are all white americans who speak Spanish as a second language mutts too?
second language is a lot less 'revealing' than 'I speak four languages', that's why I brought up ESLs, because someone could simply just learn english and not speak it well, it's harder to suggest someone isn't some kind of mix if they're speaking FOUR different languages though.
I guarantee on 4chan or /int/ they'd probably say something about Belgium just being cucked four times instead of once, if you're adopting four different cultures into your own.
4chan is made up off "mutts" who think they are white, stay away from that place.
>Dutch, French, German and English speaker
>calling someone else the 'Mutt'
do you even know what mutt means?
it certainly has its moments, can't wait for creation kit
>can't wait for creation kit
Yeah, it can be half decent if only we could fit all its issues.
It's only ten dollars to rent for a month on Game Pass. The developers of the best game ever deserved at least that much.
Game is only good because you didn't pay for it
Bait or supremely shit taste?
>things that never happen
How much they pay you?
KINO
>pirate it with zero expectations
Thats the problem, you have no expectations for the media you consume so even the most shittiest products will seem good to you. What a surprise.
I was surprised how little content the game has. Once you do the main quest and each of the faction questlines you're pretty much done. The only thing left is to do the same copy pasted POIs over and over again.
>I was surprised how little content the game has. Once you do the main quest and each of the faction questlines you're pretty much done
As a completionist who has close to 100 hours, the game has a fuckton of content. I am pretty sure that this game is gonna take me at least like 300 hours to 100%.
How long did it take you to do the main quest and all factions? I've never done all of that in a Bethesda game lol.
Pictured: OP enjoying his zogchow
Its a pretty good bethesda rpg, 7/10 nothing groundbreaking tho
>nothing but Old Earth weapons
the shotgun is great, only annoying thing is reloading after 6 shots, would be nice if there was a drum mag upgrade. just finished the crimson fleet questline and it was very satifying to go through the last quest kill each named npc with one shotgun blast
I got an extended magazine one. 12 rounds of 12ga
I didn't pay for it myself, and have been having some fun. But I would say it was worth 10 bucks tbh.
Are there nude mods yet?
>pirate it zero expectations
>have a mediocre time and lose interest in less than 3 days of playing
>make it to level 20 or so
Okay. Glad to know you're easily pleased. I am not, and I have a triple digit IQ. Clearly this product was not made for me.
People who can have fun with Starfield are on either side of the Bell Curve. Anyone who can't have fun with it are in the middle, the absolute peak midwits, like yourself.
Wrong, I am in the very superior range and all you can do is cope about it. I bet you need a calculator just for basic arithmetic.
>and all you can do is cope about it
The only one doing any kind of coping here, is you. You enter threads about a game that you don't like to complain about it. That's not what an intelligent person with a triple digit IQ does.
>intelligent people can't shitpost
Your unrealistic expectations of the intelligent are extremely naive. It's as if you harbor this delusion of an excusion to the typical hedonic loop in the overall homogenous spance of given human behavior. It's bemusing at best, however abhorrently vapid. You'd bode well to not make such an attempt again.
>he gets called out for being a dumb retard
>he starts using "big words"
Yeah, you are definitely some 90 IQ midwit who thinks that he has a triple digit IQ. You have never actually had a real IQ test done in person by a real professional, I can tell.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, big boy.
I'm also going to post a picture of my face to further upset you, hope you don't mind. Since it seems difficult for you to parse how vastly different our capacity to function is. I do love me some schadenfreude.
I'm loving the game and I have a 144 IQ, maybe the problem is something else.
>"""enjoys""" the gunplay which is worse than new vegas/for.
You are actually retarded. Nu-fun used to be a funny concept with limited real world examples but this game and the shilling around it is described perfectly by it.
Most convincing indian shill.
>Balls hurt gay 3: 150k active players even though the game came out 1 month ago
>Shillfield: 104k active players
You lost, Kumar.
>the white man's game
>credits 90% white people
>last 10% is their outsourced gruntwork
>make a clip to play pretend
Ok I guess
I have ~30 hours in the game so far.
I spent over 20 hours in Alpha Centauri alone, where I used only Cutter because I'm playing on normal lel. I land on every planet, scan everything. And yes, I've some stupid shit so far, but for some reason the game is fun for me.
I haven't played anything from Bethesda for 10 years or so (not baiting), so maybe that's why I'm so easily impressed. I need to start upgrading this shit.
>I land on every planet, scan everything
Keep doing that. Later into the game, when you get to the Eye, you can sell your surveys. Also pickup Constelation mission from the board in the basement.
You don't need the Eye to sell surveys. LIST guy buys them
>LIST guy buys them
or that, Vlad or List guy.
if you sell your surveys you lose all knowledge
Sad!
>Also pickup Constelation mission from the board in the basement.
Yes, did that. Of course, I will check it later just in case. Maybe it's updating from time to time.
Searching caves on planets and moons seems to be a waste of time (I barely got out from one with 1.8 G), but settlements (if you can call them that) sometimes have computers with missions, so I check that as well.
>Searching caves on planets and moons seems to be a waste of time
Yea and no, depends. Resources that you sometimes find in caves are nice, dung piles or rock piles and minerals in walls of the cave.
the rifles in this game are comically weak. I'm level 20 or so and have pistols that do 100+ dmg with 100+ fire rate.
My rifle has the highest damage. Also rifles have less damage drop off and better accuracy so they are better at range
>they are better at range
not on mouse/kb, no problem headshotting across the map with a pistol or even shotguns
I'm 90% sure the accuracy dictates how close to the crosshair the bullet hits so I don't believe you
when moving it does very slightly, accuracy is moot outside of early game as everything has high accuracy
the only time I noticed it was with the lawgiver sniper
I wish I was so easily entertained poo-brain
I only play rec room, roblox, and vrchat.
>poo-brain
Aren't you too young to use Ganker, anon?
It's somewhere between bad and middling. The tech they're working with is fucking ancient at this point and their ability to write is like an Indian AI. It has a shitton of utterly pointless, grindy systems that don't serve jack shit and the main story is a short, insignificant whatever and the main 'mystery' doesn't even get resolved.
Good for you, I've seen enough footage of the game to know it's just Fallout 4 in space and I hated Fallout 4 so I'm not even going to bother giving it a chance.
the story and ng+ is fucking amazing I've never felt both satisfied and hyped to play again after a game ending. bravo todd. unironically
I've enjoyed it somewhat but even Fallout 4 is a much better and more fleshed out game. You can tell there's much more
Can't play, game keeps crashing, waiting on community patch.
Have you tried "REMOVE SHADOWS AND GTAO" mod? It fixed the crashing for my rx580, it still freezes from time to time but it hasn't crashed once.
Hmmm I'll try it and report back.
Holy shit it worked! Game looks hella bad with no shadows anywhere, but hey, atleast it doesn't crash! Thanks anon
lmao
based modders
only 1000s of other things to fix to make it enjoyable
>game is set in universe with 1000 planets to explore
>enemies are 99% space pirates with zero difference
What? It really feels there is less variety than fucking fallout
planet exploration sucks too
>can't land yourself
>can't fly over planet
>exploration involves the same dog-looking creatures and copy-paste plants and rocks, same rectangle structures and same enemy models
>come across one random quest in about 10 hours, it's a fetch quest with lazy/no writing
It is actually a good game. Honestly between this and BG3, if you like WRPGs it's been one of the best years in the last decade. Ignore the shitposting, you can enjoy both games on PC.
The only people that seem to hate both are snoys.
What is good about it exactly? You poos keep saying this but never specify. The writing is shit, the mechanics are shit and unfinished, the story sucks, and the characters are ugly as shit.
>What is good about it exactly?
A bunch of people, OP included, in this thread has given examples of what they find to be good.
No, OP never gave any examples, they just said Spacers which are a copy-paste enemy. I'm asking the person I replied to, what's good exactly?
He didn't *just* say Spacers you dishonest faglord
>still can't explain what's good
Just hold the L chudy.
bro he fucking did
Sorry the onus is on you to prove it.
>Enjoys game (explains why)
>PROVE IT YOU chud
Gaming journalism and the reaction content it spawned have been a mistake and irreversibly damaged your brain, anon.
You're just trolling and refusing to prove a general statement with no evidence. I won't be replying to you again, you've posted 4 times and refuse to say it and can't even link to the post.
>stop enjoying games
Seek help, anon.
It's too bad that snoys can't play it since they're known for throwing huge hate campaigns on Ganker.
Can almost guarantee that most of these posts bashing the game are snoys having a shit fit.
They can actually play without a PC or Xbox provided they have a modern Smart TV that supports Game Pass
After being disappointed with Zelda and FF, I'm having a blast with BG3 and Starfield.
And I usually tend to orbitate more towards Japanese games, it's been a weird year.
it with zero expectations
unironically KYS.
Sounds boring.
Why are you unable to speak your own native language?
It's a street shitting untouchable poojeet posting these cope threads.
i would play it but my toaster crash all the time
>all the seething anons in this thread
kek
>more empty shit, with more rocks
kek
>I can't appreciate being in any environment unless it's decorated with sunshine and rainbows, grass and people
Ganker and Ganker would be laughing at you
>he appreciates empty spaces in his video games
Fuck off, Poojeet. You untouchable class piece of shit.
It's supposed to be a "somewhat realistic" fucking outer space experience you basement dweller, there's hardly any signs of life on anything outside of Earth. Did you just sit in science class when you were in high school, doing nothing but hoping you can get back home to Ganker so you can shitpost and beat your meat to some anime girls? Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if you were in school during the time that teachers were getting bribed to pass failing students
>It's supposed to be a "somewhat realistic" fucking outer space experience
>completely empty, just rocks and horizon
>10 years in the making
Holy shit the cope is off the charts. This level of cope should not be possible. What a pile of shit this game is and every one of its defenders are.
Here anon, stop your crying
>more rocks again
WTF you shouldn't be paid for shilling this poorly.
wtf
He's in?
>he plays as black
That's probably because I am black, albeit a lightskinned one =P
If the games performance was good maybe also only for 40 bucks not 70-100
was combat in bethesda games ever any good? like thats not the point right? like what were people doing in elder scrolls? left and right click spam, open menu mid fight to eat consumables? fallout? press V and literally let a aimbot system do everything?
Starfield's launch was a disaster. It lost millions of dollars and will be lucky to break even before the year is out.
>Steam generally trends as a quarter of game sales vs all other platforms
>steam estimates 1 million sales
>that means 3 million Xbox sales
>2 million gamepass sales
>absolute fucking failure that doesn't make back even half of the 400 million dollar budget
Not being able to craft weapons, armor, and ammo yourself really makes the outposts pointless as far as relating to the main game. It's fine if your goal is to make outposts but not if you want to do anything else.
stealth build is once again fucking op
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16hb8r2/this_guy_is_playing_dishonored_while_were_all/
I don't get people who steamroll through the main quest in these games. I'm well over a solid day in in hours played and I'm at the part where you go back for Barret. Even then this is me playing a lot quicker than I used to with these types of games.
This is the most disingenuous game i've played so far in this year.
Why are you surprised? Both buildings are probably owned by Ikea or Lidl, hence why they have the exact same look and ''item'' placement.
nice console command history chud
can't wait for vehicles mod
I mean they made one for Fallout 4 ffs
So whats the overall best starting build?
I took Space Scoundrel, but that was a fail since I don't use pistols, I had maybe 4 speech aituations so far and failed, plus I only steal when they don't see me and I don't use pickpocket. Nice scoundrel, huh.
Shoulda go with Xenobiologist.
i need the 4 skill points each level mod
FUCK putting using a jetpack and lockpicking behind skillpoints
The game is shit but I really appreciate that it's actually got leveled areas instead of everything being scaled, I hope they carry that forward into elder scrolls 6 but they will probably decide it can't be done because the world is no longer broken up into such distinct zones
Isn't it interesting how there's an equal amount of senseless hate for this game like dumb pronounce shit and then there's an equal amount of senseless positivity for this game like people can't accept a game can just be extremely average.
or maybe it's just a good game that some people are paid to hate huh...
because it became a console war game