How do they explain his internal monologue? If he was the killer all along, why did his thoughts completely contradict that? Did he have 2 personalities?
It doesn't really lie to you as such, but it twists the gameplay to suit the story. Like in the typewriter shop when you're literally playing as Scott and you know how much time has passed, then later on in the flashback it tries to suggest more time had passed than it did for him to do what he did while the camera was panned on Lauren for that minute
The biggest problem was always the characters thoughts, like they're obviously not going to have one of Scotts thoughts be "gee I should really get rid of all this evidence otherwise they'll know I'm the killer", but if you were the killer you would be thinking those kind of things, they should have just never had that option in the first place.
There's also the deleted scenes that suggest a psychic link between Ethan and Scott, which is the reason why he has those black outs and wakes up with the origami figure in his hand, but they ended up removing the supernatural element because they wanted it to be more grounded in reality, but then the story makes no sense without it
They wanted to ground it in reality while having fuckin Johnny Nuemonic as the FBI guy, shit was bonkers lol. Should have just gone full Fahrenheit and thrown in all the supernatural stuff they could think of.
>Should have just gone full Fahrenheit and thrown in all the supernatural stuff they could think of.
That should have been their niche, start a game off grounded and just go full batshit crazy
It doesn't really lie to you as such, but it twists the gameplay to suit the story. Like in the typewriter shop when you're literally playing as Scott and you know how much time has passed, then later on in the flashback it tries to suggest more time had passed than it did for him to do what he did while the camera was panned on Lauren for that minute
Unreliable narrators have been trope in murder mystery stories since forever. Even Agatha Christie did the same shit (one of her acclaimed books was one where the protagonist was the killer and basically omitted details to cover the twist).
Heavy Rain is great B movie kino. It reminds me a lot of Italian Giallo films mixed with a little bit of SE7EN with how its written.
The story makes no sense when you realize he was the killer. I enjoyed it until the end. The android game was better, and the Ellen Paige/ Dafoe game was an even bigger okay.
To be honest, it still is. There really aren’t many games like it aside from things like Until Dawn, other Cage games and Telltale (and Telltale sucks because choices literally don’t matter, defeating the entire purpose of these kinds of games).
Yes, and it was up to the players whether or not it happened, so it was kinda genius really. If you complain about it then it's your own fault for allowing it to happen
>Ethan’s blackouts and random origami figures just never get resolved >on my first playthrough the junkie detective got turned into compost by those spinning blades at the scrapyard and I fucked up as Ethan so Allison the random 110 lb journalist had to stop the Origami Killer and save Shaun all on her own while Ethan cried outside Applebees
Still not sure hpw that fat fuck Shelby got all that broken glass in that narrow ventilation duct for you to crawl through.
>Ethan’s blackouts and random origami figures just never get resolved
ethans blackouts were cut story with a supernatural link between him and shelby. no idea on the origami
>Get everyone alive and well to the end >Fail one QTE where you have to rotate the gamepad while Madison is driving her bike >She flips over, can't get into the building >Ethan gets out with his son and gets fucking shot by the police >If Madison gets there she walks out with him and they don't get shot
I was mad
SHAUUN >crashes into a stall of apples
SHAUN >runs into an old lady
SHAUUUUUNN >trips on a wet floor
SHAUUN >slides into a brick wall
SHAUN >runs through a glass pane
SHAUNNNN >runs out in front of a car
SHAUN >awkwardly walks sideways through a crowd of people
SHAUUUN >falls over a fish
its kino
Daily reminder, David Cage is on record in a court of law saying that his company does not make games for homosexuals. That may or may not be the same time he ran crying from the court room.
I remenber seeing these close-ups and thinking to myself, "that is it, graphics peaked, this is like looking at real people, there is no way games can be more realistic as this".
The only thing that came close to this was a screenshot of TLOU remake that I still swear still looks like a real person
Scott Shelby is the killer
All the trolling back then was funny. People posting pics of the Shelby car and saying look at my killer shelby.
The way he pronounces "origami" is his worst crime.
no shit
the EU cover already spoiled it for everyone 13 years ago
It did? A private detective with a gun?
yes the fact that he's holding a gun gives it away, it's how composition works
this twist was so fucking badly handled that it loops around to being hilarious
>game lets you play the killer
>and hear his thoughts
>the only way his thoughts make sense if he's trying to trick (you) the player
>he's trying to trick (you) the player
now that would've been a twist
Go full Ever 17 with it
kek I remember back in the day Ganker actually did spoil it for me, but I still enjoyed the game
How do they explain his internal monologue? If he was the killer all along, why did his thoughts completely contradict that? Did he have 2 personalities?
>How do they explain his internal monologue?
They don't!
>Did he have 2 personalities?
Nope, they were just like "fuck you"
Rare time where a spoiler makes the game better. Shit is bonkers.
My mom was in the room when the big twist was revealed and I was like "whaaat" and she was like "yeah you dumbass how did you not see that coming"
boomers can sense weird killer vibes
She loves that kind of stuff anyways. Rewatches Columbo all the time and has read all of Agatha Christie's books
Based mom, is she single?
Nope, happily married. You'd probably be amused to hear that she made fun of me for being a weeb as a kid too lol
SHAAAWWWWWWN
Tried it once, looked like a movie game, so i uninstalled that shit.
shawuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
SEANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>play
>game literally lies to you to preserve the twist
David Cage is a FRAUD
no it didn't
It doesn't really lie to you as such, but it twists the gameplay to suit the story. Like in the typewriter shop when you're literally playing as Scott and you know how much time has passed, then later on in the flashback it tries to suggest more time had passed than it did for him to do what he did while the camera was panned on Lauren for that minute
The biggest problem was always the characters thoughts, like they're obviously not going to have one of Scotts thoughts be "gee I should really get rid of all this evidence otherwise they'll know I'm the killer", but if you were the killer you would be thinking those kind of things, they should have just never had that option in the first place.
There's also the deleted scenes that suggest a psychic link between Ethan and Scott, which is the reason why he has those black outs and wakes up with the origami figure in his hand, but they ended up removing the supernatural element because they wanted it to be more grounded in reality, but then the story makes no sense without it
They wanted to ground it in reality while having fuckin Johnny Nuemonic as the FBI guy, shit was bonkers lol. Should have just gone full Fahrenheit and thrown in all the supernatural stuff they could think of.
>Should have just gone full Fahrenheit and thrown in all the supernatural stuff they could think of.
That should have been their niche, start a game off grounded and just go full batshit crazy
Unreliable narrators have been trope in murder mystery stories since forever. Even Agatha Christie did the same shit (one of her acclaimed books was one where the protagonist was the killer and basically omitted details to cover the twist).
Heavy Rain is great B movie kino. It reminds me a lot of Italian Giallo films mixed with a little bit of SE7EN with how its written.
Unreliable narrators are a thing numb nuts. You'd know this if you read books.
The game still goes off of the rails though.
The fat fucking detective was the killer. Why?
It was literal fatherless behavior
Aeugh
The story makes no sense when you realize he was the killer. I enjoyed it until the end. The android game was better, and the Ellen Paige/ Dafoe game was an even bigger okay.
>game ends with a massive cliffhanger
>did like shit and will never be followed up on
lol
JASON
Agent Nahman Jayden, FBI. I’m here to investigate the Origammy Killer.
>The best sections of every Cage game are the autismo detective sections
What did Cage mean by this?
You found me. The origarmy Killar
what was wrong with people in 2010?
It was a weird time, plus there weren't many games like this out on the market. To be honest I'll still give it a 7.5/10
It was a novelty in 2010
To be honest, it still is. There really aren’t many games like it aside from things like Until Dawn, other Cage games and Telltale (and Telltale sucks because choices literally don’t matter, defeating the entire purpose of these kinds of games).
Someone post the video qte of chasing someone where the player fails it everytime
Were the Madison naked scenes really necessary?
Yes, and it was up to the players whether or not it happened, so it was kinda genius really. If you complain about it then it's your own fault for allowing it to happen
the strip scene should have been fully nude not just topless
Scott had a good theme song
>le gritty le serious tone
If only they didn't make these god awful fail QTE animations. What the fuck was David thinking
>villain is the only American in the cast
based
>Ethan’s blackouts and random origami figures just never get resolved
>on my first playthrough the junkie detective got turned into compost by those spinning blades at the scrapyard and I fucked up as Ethan so Allison the random 110 lb journalist had to stop the Origami Killer and save Shaun all on her own while Ethan cried outside Applebees
Still not sure hpw that fat fuck Shelby got all that broken glass in that narrow ventilation duct for you to crawl through.
>Ethan’s blackouts and random origami figures just never get resolved
ethans blackouts were cut story with a supernatural link between him and shelby. no idea on the origami
>origami
Also part of his link with Shelby.
Basically, the psychic link is still in the game, but they cut the actual explanation for this link.
>Get everyone alive and well to the end
>Fail one QTE where you have to rotate the gamepad while Madison is driving her bike
>She flips over, can't get into the building
>Ethan gets out with his son and gets fucking shot by the police
>If Madison gets there she walks out with him and they don't get shot
I was mad
Oh shit I remember that, that was a bullshit qte, like it all hinged on that one qte, fuck off game
SHAUUN
>crashes into a stall of apples
SHAUN
>runs into an old lady
SHAUUUUUNN
>trips on a wet floor
SHAUUN
>slides into a brick wall
SHAUN
>runs through a glass pane
SHAUNNNN
>runs out in front of a car
SHAUN
>awkwardly walks sideways through a crowd of people
SHAUUUN
>falls over a fish
its kino
classic
SHAWN!
Kino
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The scene where Madison uses the toilet always gave me a boner
not the shower or the strip scene?
Nope. They weren't novel.
>shitting and pissing is "novel"
pleb
Daily reminder, David Cage is on record in a court of law saying that his company does not make games for homosexuals. That may or may not be the same time he ran crying from the court room.
What do?
Good game.
I remenber seeing these close-ups and thinking to myself, "that is it, graphics peaked, this is like looking at real people, there is no way games can be more realistic as this".
The only thing that came close to this was a screenshot of TLOU remake that I still swear still looks like a real person
Why did she leave him? Why did he have to live in that dump of a house? I bet she got to stay in that nice house. Why are women like that?
>Why did she leave him?
I believe the story was he actually left her
As soon as the game began, it was clear that Ethan was going to be a shit-tier character. What were they thinking?
I love it
Why do tranny types on other sites have such a violent hatred for it? Is it cause it isn't a serious moobie like tlou?
Madison = SEXOOO
Madison is peak female, hate the French as much as you want but at least they still make attractive women in their video games
I think they just face and body scanned Jacqui Ainsley
Playing the game again but this game doing the worst choices, does anybody remember what order they die in if you fail everything?
Heavy man is killer rain
I love David Cage's stupid movie games. This game, Beyond: Two Souls and Detroit: Become Human were so fun to play with friends and family.
No but I shall go masturbate to the strip scene, Adieu.
GIVE ME BACK MY SON YOU SON OF A BITCH