you can literally understand trails plot in a few sentences
>empire and republic are fighting for hegemony >empire wins at first >then big bad guy was behind the empire victory >is defeated and now republic wins >republic is the strongest country in the continent
>secret society exist >they do stuff (smugly) >characters stop them >epilogue in each game is the society going "BUT THIS WON'T STOP OUR MASTER PLAN"
that's it
that's the entire story. that's 14 games, and we are at the halfway point of the story
Play sky and zero/azure.
Then visit Ganker, /fg/ and Ganker in preparation for the inevitable disappointment you will get at cold steel.
Now you can continue to play and enjoy kiseki, unironically.
Literally just play in release order you absolute fucking retard, Jesus Christ.
I hate plebbitor "HOW DO YOU GET INTO A SERIES" mentality. Literally just fucking play them. They all are chronological. There is no esoteric "secret knowledge" order to play it for the first time for "best experience".
It's like fucking asking if you can start ASoIaF with A Storm of Swords or something.
>~130 hours on Trails of Cold Steel 1 >~108 hours on Trails of Cold Steel 2 >~95 hours on Trails of Cold Steel 3
I can confidently say that the main character is just as insufferable as it's fans are. Doesn't matter how good the fan service is, just seeing the main character and its retarded fans is a massive turnoff. Give me the this game's weeb art-style and level of fanservice, mix it with a FPS with a good story like Titanfall 2... and I will lick the boots of every falcooom dev until I die. Until then, it goes into the trash.
It's not only Rean. The main story is also insufferable, taking so many cliche anime tropes to the point where it becomes tiring. The lack of stakes and Ouroboros being the most non-threatening group of villains I've ever seen doesn't help either.
>cold steel III >every chapter has a fight with an ouroboros member >every time they are going to defeat you >but old classmates of Rean appears and you help you while this sounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_tEhzh5X0&list=PLzFTGYa_evXgvRyxTwNGWJ2MGgI_uwNqp&index=20
>The main story is also insufferable, taking so many cliche anime tropes to the point where it becomes tiring
Well obviously, anime and anime style game stories will have autistic writing and shitty tropes, you can't set the bar too high. What bothers me the most is that in a sea of shitty games, it seems cold steal has almost everything it needs to be great. Little bugs, good fanservice, acceptable graphics.... but the story and more importantly, the main character is absolute shit. Every time I start begin to enjoy cold steel, some character opens its mouth and ruins the experience.
>cold steel III >every chapter has a fight with an ouroboros member >every time they are going to defeat you >but old classmates of Rean appears and you help you while this sounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_tEhzh5X0&list=PLzFTGYa_evXgvRyxTwNGWJ2MGgI_uwNqp&index=20
Sky is 00s anime jrpg, while CS is generic light haha novel jrpg. Sky trilogy handled its characters way better, they all started generic but the growth through the journey and seperation was great.
That applies just as accuratly to Cold Steel. You're just willing to give Sky the benefit of the doubt. I played all the games back to back and this great gap in character writing just doesn't exist. New class 7 is just as fleshed out and well characterised as any character in Sky. Except maybe Olivier and Kevin who stood out to me as being noticeably better than everyone else. Characters like Tita and Agate are just as boring and personality lacking as old class 7 were in CS1.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Agate was one of the better Sky characters. Zin or Schera would've been a better example.
1 week ago
Anonymous
He had a well fleshed out backstory and good motivation but in terms of personality? He was blander than a wooden spoon. At least Zin had some enthusiasm.
So the combat's the same style but not limited to a grid anymore like Makai Kingdom compared to Disgaea?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yes. They also balanced stuff a little differently.
Now the game becomes more about abusing all the various bullshit to not have enemies ever have a turn or hit you.
Yeah Kuro 1 is better, but Kuro 2 dropped the ball with its rushed production, so it's basically a filler. Final fight was kino: https://files.catbox.moe/o7zam7.mp4
I'm just enjoying Van so much more than fucking Rean, even though it's hilarious to meme him as the hahaman, he was fucking boring, Van is much better
I'm still missing better interactions between characters, every character interaction it's "I love this" "yeah me too it's great" or just exposition text, I miss Olivier fucking around Estelle while drunk for example
I'm gonna be honest... Rean's running animation in CS3/4 is very gayy and unpleasant to watch. It's why I switched the leader to Musse for most of both games (and you can see the bottoms of her ass-cheeks poke out of her skirt when she's running).
Well, i have to say i like games with a big cast of characters.
Did they make a good job at writing them? How much do the games focus on them and the relationships they have with each others? Is there any romance between various characters?
Think of that meme about Lightning and when she’s off screen everyone’s asking where’s Lightning
Now change Lightnings name to Rean and you have the plot of CS1-4
>Did they make a good job at writing them?
No >How much do the games focus on them and the relationships they have with each others?
Whole focus is on Rean and how cool he is >Is there any romance between various characters?
Everyone wants Rean's dick. Juna and Kurt had thing in CS3 only to be ruined in 4. Schera and Olivier are the only ones, but they had a thing since Sky FC.
Yeah, it really fucking sucks. The hänen is way too giving big and the progress resets in every game anyway.
1 week ago
Anonymous
CS is pretty bad if you expecting the same level of sovl as Sky, but you can enjoy it if you turn off your brain and just get sucked into it. I did the same thing with Persona 5.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>CS is pretty bad if you expecting the same level of sovl as Sky
Well, i've never played any of these games, so i'm not really sure what should i expect.
Btw, let's say i wanted to give it a try, should i start with Sky, then?
1 week ago
Anonymous
NTA but yeah, just keep in mind its a slow comfy 2000 jrpg
1 week ago
Anonymous
>just keep in mind its a slow comfy 2000 jrpg
Yeah, FC is a slowburn but I enjoyed it the most on how comfy it is. It basically establishes characters and worldbuilding.
>FC is a slowburn but I enjoyed it the most on how comfy it is
That shouldn't be a problem for me.
Ok, then, i guess i'll give it a try to see if the Trails series is something that might spark my interest.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Also great and comfy ost which makes the game even better, it's half of the reason why I love sky so much.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah, FC is a slowburn but I enjoyed it the most on how comfy it is. It basically establishes characters and worldbuilding.
1 week ago
Anonymous
"slowburn" is being generous. Literally nothing happens
1 week ago
Anonymous
There were a few fights with ouroboros and did you forget the "reveal" at the end?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>meaningless conversations even by jrpg's standards >worldbuilding
go play with legos
1 week ago
Anonymous
Not our fault nobody wants to talk about your xenoblade
>Sky gameplay on harder difficulties was so limiting that you only had one strategy available to progress >Cold Steel gameplay gave you so much shit that no matter what you use you rush through the game >eventually every fight becomes an S-craft spam >Kuro takes this spam and makes it into an actual mechanic
I like it
how is Kuro gameplay in nightmare at the end fights?
To be fair Sky higher difficulties were added in new releases. The game is not balanced around it at all, and that becomes really obvious in shit like the first chapters of SC if you dare playing on Hard.
CS is balanced around you being able to survive Nightmare by not holding back and giving 100% evasion to Fie, spamming Adamantine Shield, delays, speed buffs and S-crafts[/spoiler[ Idk about Kuro, but I am guessing they did the same.
>haha, guess I won't be holding back anymore >*unlocks S-craft* >alright I will be serious from now on >*unlocks craft that boosts all their stats* >ugh I need to be at full power >*unlocks ANOTHER S-craft*
What did Falcom mean by this
Probably to keep power levels vague, so they can always bullshit a win.
so they can surprise the villain later and kill him like Kevin did
Do they at least not do this retarded holding back shit on final bosses or superbosses? >Final boss gives his evil self-wanking speech >MC says they'll win with friendship >After a 10 minute battle, final boss is on the floor, collapsed >Laughs >lmaoooo i was just holding back, see you next game!
For some strange reason, literally every character in Trails doesn't fight seriously for 99% of the game.
That includes both your party members who actually have more skills than what you can use and villains.
Haha... that's why I like Sky more, Estelle is not that strong so for her being rolled on makes sense, Joshua has ptsd and an actual reason for holding back.
It was ok in Sky.
From CS onwards it's just retarded, only Rean has some reason to not instantly use ogre mode.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm playing CS3 right now and I could swear at some random point during the first chapter, Kurt just decides to stop holding back in a random popup and unlocks the S-craft
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Kurt
But he is actually improving apparently because of Rean's teachings so I guess that one counts. Also, you can just say that their "character development" counts as trigger for their sudden buffs or something.
Not using your power to the fullest. You know the trope of "Heh not bad you made me use 30 percent of my power"? It's exactly like that except way overused to the point of people here got mentally broken from it.
>it's been like 12 games
The more games they do, the more they need to have everyone hold back. The second you have an Enforcer not hold back and still lose, they're severely undermined as a future antagonist unless you have them undergo some development or authentic, believable powerup, but thats too much work
there'll be a weird multi-parallel-world game that'll somehow have everybody not hold back, many people die in various universes, and somehow your main game goal is to unfuck them by not holding back and using time travel jank bullshit garbage to kill every single one of them to save their worlds.
The repeat of same cliches in CS made me hate it. I can stomach a bad guy running away and saying that he did exactly what was needed only so many times.
I stopped caring around CS2, the only reason I still play the games is sunk cost. I was laughing throughout CS3 every time during a boss fight you got the "reduce HP to X%" cementing the fact that my enemy was just going to flee afterwards and they isn't fighting seriously.
>isn't even fighting seriously >but still needs to throw an S-craft out of nowhere to wipe you if you were not under any form of protection
Thanks Kiseki
>absolutely loved sky and Crossbell. >liked CS >absolutely hated CS2 >liked CS3 except the ending >gave up on CS4 literally in the final dungeon
They just aren't translating it fast enough for me to care anymore.
We're in Kuro 3 soon and they just now bringing in hajimari.
>It's really amazing how they still don't want to spend the effort to release them at the same time.
I dont think simultaneous releases are possible given how much Falcom is known for fucking with things mid development, but the currents gaps are outrageous
Isn't this the game series where they're starting to go full woke and push white people = evil? I remember some guy saying in another thread that part of the new games is them changing their national symbol from a white flower because they don't want the nation to be associated with whiteness anymore, and every major villain is some white supremacist. Is this true, Kisekifags?
If the main character of this series was still Estelle maybe it would not have trod down the dark path.
take your fucking meds schizo
I'm not seeing a no. Kiseki is 100% woke trash at this point, it outright pushes anti white themes in Kuro, plus the LGBTQ garbage. It's nice that your series has cute girls but that doesn't really salvage it from the themes it started pushing in Kuro.
Just answer the questions, is the stuff that's been talked about in the game or not, sounds like it is, therefore, Trails is an anti white game. Maybe Falcom are the first JP company to go all in on white hatred, maybe a sign of things to come, we'll see. So much for the lie of JP developers being immune to the woke virus.
You still haven't said this stuff isn't in the game, I'm not buying or playing games that are full of anti white hate and that push LBGTQ+ crap, if I wanted to put up with that I'd just buy some Western game.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You can keep trying to rile us up so we can spoonfeed you, schizo, but you're not getting an answer at this point.
Ok but is it true or not that the game pushes anti white themes? Like is it true that they change the white flower of their national symbol because they don't want to be associated with whiteness? That is pretty fucking blatant dude.
Yeah well it's hard to do that when every time I've seen somebody talk about the woke shit in Kuro they actually provide screenshots or lines of dialogue from the game, and I have yet to see any of the Trailsfags deny that it's there. I mean,, talking about how great it is to race swap actors in a historical recreation, all anti immigration activists are all evil white racists and the main villains of the setting, and changing the national symbol from a white flower because it's too associated with whiteness all sounds pretty fucking bad to me. And you guys don't even deny this is all in the game, you just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well who cares" because what, it's a JP game?
Part of the reason some people like JP games is because they are free of the political bullshit Western trash shove into all their games, if Falcom is starting to follow that line their games should be pilloried and thrown into the garbage.
look schizo, play the game and find out by yourself, holy shit, you people should be shot on sight, no wonder libtards have a field day with deranged shit like you, literally end yourself for good
1 week ago
Anonymous
>buy my game to find out it is infested with wokegayry!
No. Again, I've already seen the guys that argue against you actually post dialogue and screenshots, and you guys never post anything to the contrary. When the actual English translation comes out in six or seven years it will be clear what Kiseki has become. At least you'll always have the old games, I guess.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>when the actual english translation comes out
for a pol schizo seems weird to wait for the pozzed translation but ok
Came to say the Cold Steel artist was decent starting out, but quite clearly gave up trying to be at least acceptable come Cold Steel III and it pisses me the fuck off. Terrible artist, thank god for Enami.
Why the fuck would Estelle give a haypenny shit about what Rean thinks about... anything, especially her sex life? Bitch, everyone already knows you're fucking your brother. What, are you worried Rean's gonna kill himself if his poor virgin ears hear such scandalous gossip? I fucking hate this franchise.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Why the fuck would Estelle give a haypenny shit about what Rean thinks about... anything
haha...
1 week ago
Anonymous
I only know small Estelle from TiS, seeing adult Estelle is weird.
>game opens with a prologue featuring the exciting return of Trails' original protagonist >Falcom actually thinks newcomers know or care who she is >casuals are just yelling at the screen demanding their self insert back
I fucking hate this series so much.
Bro the Falcom writers can't even remember Kevin, do you really think they remember Anelace? They even had Cassisus say he threw away his old sword since they don't remember he gave it to Anelace. I swear people that still think Falcom actually pay attention to or care about the Sky secondary characters are delusional.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>They even had Cassisus say he threw away his old sword since they don't remember he gave it to Anelace
Fucking rude
1 week ago
Anonymous
>They even had Cassisus say he threw away his old sword since they don't remember he gave it to Anelace
Fucking rude
You misunderstand. They didn't forget that Anelace exists. They genuinely consider giving her that sword to be the same as throwing it in the trash.
Kys schizo
You're the one who automatically assumes that anyone even slightly criticizing Trails MUST be a Nintendo loyalist. Jump off a cliff, shill.
Fuck this character. And no, not in the sexual sense, in the sense of tossing her in the trash where shitty invincible villains like her belong. She's Light Yagami levels off "No fuck you I still win, actually.". If you're still invested in this story, you're an idiot.
Anelace was actually a victim of a temporal erasure scheme Ouroborous carried out. She was too powerful.
There'll be a whole game about fixing continuity to bring her back.
Not the fucking thing, but having multiple "choices" that the MC has to choose from and therefore not allowing any "canono" relationships to not piss off some schizo otaku gay.
Also other females aren't allowed to interact with anyone but MC because that will be cheating for somebody.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'll never forgive the Japanese gays for creating this shit. You can't have any organic relationships or romances because of this insanity.
Daily reminder that literally first half of TitS SC was >something strange happens in a Liberl region >it turns out that Ouroboros is behind it >You fight and defeat him >"Hahaha I was just holding back! I done my part here" *disappears*
This happens 4 times, in the same 4 locations from the first game. Literally half of the game is pretty much filler and the story only starts going after half of the game is done.
I filter most nintendo stuff out so I don't notice it as much but yes I know Ganker is a tendie board. I'm just noticing that lately more threads about kiseki are being made besides the usual Rean memes.
Is there a video game character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Rean Schwarzer? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Pre Civil-War Rean Schwarzer. I'm not talking about Civil-War Spirit Unified Rean Schwarzer. Hell, I'm not even talking about Post-Civil War Professor Rean "Mad Headpatter" Schwarzer who's built up a large bond with his Divine Knight. I'm also not talking about Rean "Merely Holding Back" Schwarzer. I'm talking about Rean "Ogro Blanco" Schwarzer the fully realized Divine Blade, having mastered the strongest form of the Eight Leaves One Blade school of swordsmanship and the ability to infinitely delay his enemies' turns, having beaten one of the greatest practitioners in the continent to earn the said title of Divine Blade, equipped with his sharpened tachi (editor's note: a much better and cooler version of a katana) and all Master Quartz as well as a Gladiator's Headband, having headpatted all females and males across Erebonia, constantly being vigilant so that his male party members dare not get together with the female party members in his harem, understanding his very close relationship to the uber-chad Osborne, being free of his curse that forced him to hold back, having achieved max bonding points with all members of his team, having successfully saved his dead terrorist boyfriend and sent him back to school, with the power of all the Divine Knights in him, having visited Hamel and paid his respects, being able to fly around Erebonia with his airship for however many times he damn well pleases, respectfully mourning the death of Market Manager Otto at least once per day, exercising his ability to not hold back on the daily, and controlling Estelle, Tita, Tio, and Juna as well as others as part of his harem, having beaten his literal future self coming from an alternate timeline who had a total melty and fused with a continential curse, and having just consumed a Zeram Capsule to have his 200+ S-Craft at the ready this very instant.
release the games faster by just doing a text translation and throwing out english dubs.
stop trying to shit out a game every year and take your time to make each entry more meaningful
It had successfully tricked me into thinking Sara was going to be a main villain when it played against her. Surely she doesn't get this theme for nothing, right?
The track that plays when you're in the flash forward at the beginning of CS1 absolutely hooked me on the game. That track is probably my favourite. That and the one that plays in the final dungeon in CS2. No I don't remember the names of either of them.
Fuck I was confused as fuck cause that wasn't right and I searched for ages cause I couldn't find it only to realize it was the fucking CS1 final dungeon ost. I found it
That little bit at 2:15 absolutely stuck in my head.
Yeah CS3 and 4 in comparison are kind of disappointing in the OST department. 1 and 2 had a lot of great tracks. Though I've heard some Kuro tracks that I really like which is nice.
>delay spam
Haha... he's immune, you are thinking about CS1 final boss
1 week ago
Anonymous
It really has been too long since I've played these games.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Delay was so broken in CS1 that any next game nerfed the fuck out of it.
Not that it matters because you can still 100% evade, cast Adamantine Shield and use the SPD spells.
1 week ago
Anonymous
There's something honestly charming about how ridiculously broken you could be in CS. I like that they compensated more so by buffing everything else instead of nerfing you. It was like a game of trying to out bullshit the AI which was fun
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah by CS3 it gets ridiculous. I remember the final boss not even getting more than one or two turns on Nightmare, and Rufus didn't get a single turn because I kept breaking him/using Kurt's order for even more SPD and just endlessly plowing him while on break state.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>There's something honestly charming about how ridiculously broken you could be in CS
I inadvertantly roleplayed a Kiseki character a few times by holding back against a boss (so they didnt die before I saw their S Craft), then proceeded to almost get one shot
1 week ago
Anonymous
What was the strat for that cunt anyway? Really seems like they designed Gral of Erebos to specifically tell you ''just spam S-crafts with CP regen food and make sure you're speedy enough not to let it get a single turn lol lmao'' cause they just gave up trying to balance the game and just put this thing in there that is just about resistant to literally anything and dishes out oneshots + adds like it's candy.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Be fast, check how much delay you are adding with your own actions and make sure you can avoid damage as much as possible.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Oh also. Use Emma lol.
Her arts kill the adds quickly
1 week ago
Anonymous
Yeah you'll still get hit a ton and you'll just have to rely on S-craft spamming. The adds don't even matter and casting arts puts her at the tail end of the delay queue, genius.
1 week ago
Anonymous
There were quartz designed specifically to cut cast delay to nothing. I remember relying on a combo of Shining and Adamantine Shield for defense
1 week ago
Anonymous
Protip: Cast 3 and Action 3 stack.
That's right, you get the casting delay reduced twice, then the actual art delay still reduced once.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You should know that bells and master quartz delay cut and stack. (in fact different tier bell stack too). You can stack your casters enough that they can cast multiple high level artes before the bosses can even get a turn, especially with speed buffs. This gets more abuseable in CS3.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm aware. Arts are only slow in early game.
I am baffled when I hear people not spamming the fuck out of them against endgame bosses, especially since you can get physical shield+arts reflect in the same round every single time.
1 week ago
Anonymous
And the huge evasion buff from Shining while we are at it. Cause you totally need more evasion
Final dungeon where you can play as everyone, it's a series tradition.
Too bad the final boss will make most of the guest characters not really worth it, though I did have fun using Towa to refill Emma EP forever.
The track that plays when you're in the flash forward at the beginning of CS1 absolutely hooked me on the game. That track is probably my favourite. That and the one that plays in the final dungeon in CS2. No I don't remember the names of either of them.
It plays in CS4 against the Awakeners boss fight. I think it was meant to be an Elite boss theme
Reminder that Artes build is so much more powerful than S-craft spam if you know how to abuse the mechanics. We are talking about exploiting the system so much it would be considered blatant cheating in other RPG, as it completely invalidates the turb based system.
That holding back shit makes me worried. I'm still playing FC, just finished the tourney and the guy was holding back kek
Should I give up on this series after all?
I also know nobody dies anyway.
That's fine usually and I don't like people dying for shock value, but just this first game has so many side characters that you really can just kill off a few of them and nothing would change while also giving the story more weight.
Well Loewe/Masked Special Forces guy dies, and Weissman/Professor Alba (who's the mastermind and villain of the arc btw) gets killed by Kevin in SC. There's plenty of death in Sky.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Bro come on.
1 week ago
Anonymous
who the fuck is this guy
he's not from kiseki
1 week ago
Anonymous
Loewe deserved it just for being such an annoying boss in two fucking separate games.
>Earth Guard mk2(that's right, two shields) >Tearl(he recovers most of his hp...) >Silver Thorn(confuses you and deal aoe art damage) >impede craft(so you can't cast) >mute craft(so you still can't cast) >s-craft(one shots if you don't have earth guard yourself) >you don't even have 4 party members
Holding back btw
I really don't think so. The only reason he is beatable on a second playthrough is because you know you should gear up Schera and abuse the fuck out of AT Advance.
haha oh boy I do enjoy 4 games behind Japan
please falcom/nisa/whatever, make sure to take longer to translate those game so that japs can spoil me the entire story arc before I can even play the first game
Anons who don't know this game misunderstand one thing.
People who play Kiseki don't "hate" it, they have fun shitting on the writing because it's pants-on-head retarded, despite having a cool setting and being all around nice games in general.
Sorry but I don't play shitty games.
Translate it to english faster then
Na-chan!
bakabakabaka! suuchichan no bakaaa!!
hontouni shinjaukato omottajyanai!!!
I did. Finished CS 1-4. Waiting for english Hajimari to see more Rean, haha.
This. How much longer do I have to wait for NISA to translate. Fuck.
Elie is my bride and I will thank you to keep your Calvard gayry away from her.
You mean your hotwife?
I play Kiseki every day
No, Kiseki plays YOU
How do you even get started with this series? Do you have to play them in order or something?
release order always
Ignore Sky. Just play Cold Steel 1 and nothing else. If you finished it and liked it then olay the sequels. That easy.
Sky trilogy
And by trrilogy i mean the first two sky games.
If you care about understanding the plot, start from Sky and don't skip Crossbell games. Major events happen and they are referenced in future games.
you can literally understand trails plot in a few sentences
>empire and republic are fighting for hegemony
>empire wins at first
>then big bad guy was behind the empire victory
>is defeated and now republic wins
>republic is the strongest country in the continent
>secret society exist
>they do stuff (smugly)
>characters stop them
>epilogue in each game is the society going "BUT THIS WON'T STOP OUR MASTER PLAN"
that's it
that's the entire story. that's 14 games, and we are at the halfway point of the story
>they do stuff (smugly)
>epilogue in each game is the society going "BUT THIS WON'T STOP OUR MASTER PLAN"
Accurate kek
the society is the good guys you dont kill anybody in this game they just turn nice aferwards
Now tell me how literally no one died in the war because everyone was "holding back"
Otto...
who?
The market manager guy
Play sky and zero/azure.
Then visit Ganker, /fg/ and Ganker in preparation for the inevitable disappointment you will get at cold steel.
Now you can continue to play and enjoy kiseki, unironically.
Not interested in your obvious obsession with a community, thanks
Cold steel is the better series if you're not a contrarian
you have to play through the entire Dragon Slayer series in order or you're not a real fan
Literally just play in release order you absolute fucking retard, Jesus Christ.
I hate plebbitor "HOW DO YOU GET INTO A SERIES" mentality. Literally just fucking play them. They all are chronological. There is no esoteric "secret knowledge" order to play it for the first time for "best experience".
It's like fucking asking if you can start ASoIaF with A Storm of Swords or something.
>LGBT shit
No
onee san erotic
Nice abs
I played all of them. I have nothing else to play.
What is this
cute and canon
I mean the game. It looks like a renpy VN
It's cute and canon.
>~130 hours on Trails of Cold Steel 1
>~108 hours on Trails of Cold Steel 2
>~95 hours on Trails of Cold Steel 3
I can confidently say that the main character is just as insufferable as it's fans are. Doesn't matter how good the fan service is, just seeing the main character and its retarded fans is a massive turnoff. Give me the this game's weeb art-style and level of fanservice, mix it with a FPS with a good story like Titanfall 2... and I will lick the boots of every falcooom dev until I die. Until then, it goes into the trash.
It's not only Rean. The main story is also insufferable, taking so many cliche anime tropes to the point where it becomes tiring. The lack of stakes and Ouroboros being the most non-threatening group of villains I've ever seen doesn't help either.
>cold steel III
>every chapter has a fight with an ouroboros member
>every time they are going to defeat you
>but old classmates of Rean appears and you help you while this sounds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r_tEhzh5X0&list=PLzFTGYa_evXgvRyxTwNGWJ2MGgI_uwNqp&index=20
>this happens 4 times, the exact same way
it's so formulaic...
Truly Kisekino
>The main story is also insufferable, taking so many cliche anime tropes to the point where it becomes tiring
Well obviously, anime and anime style game stories will have autistic writing and shitty tropes, you can't set the bar too high. What bothers me the most is that in a sea of shitty games, it seems cold steal has almost everything it needs to be great. Little bugs, good fanservice, acceptable graphics.... but the story and more importantly, the main character is absolute shit. Every time I start begin to enjoy cold steel, some character opens its mouth and ruins the experience.
Pretty much
CS is a massive improvement over Sky when it comes to gameplay and graphics but a downgrade in almost everything else.
>graphics
CS 1 and 2 legit look like shit.
Sky art style was amazing.
Graphics and artstyle aren't the same thing
Sky is 00s anime jrpg, while CS is generic light haha novel jrpg. Sky trilogy handled its characters way better, they all started generic but the growth through the journey and seperation was great.
That applies just as accuratly to Cold Steel. You're just willing to give Sky the benefit of the doubt. I played all the games back to back and this great gap in character writing just doesn't exist. New class 7 is just as fleshed out and well characterised as any character in Sky. Except maybe Olivier and Kevin who stood out to me as being noticeably better than everyone else. Characters like Tita and Agate are just as boring and personality lacking as old class 7 were in CS1.
Agate was one of the better Sky characters. Zin or Schera would've been a better example.
He had a well fleshed out backstory and good motivation but in terms of personality? He was blander than a wooden spoon. At least Zin had some enthusiasm.
does CS keep the cool grid based combat or does it just devolve into generic 4 bros in a rowshit?
Yes but not a grid anymore.
So the combat's the same style but not limited to a grid anymore like Makai Kingdom compared to Disgaea?
Yes. They also balanced stuff a little differently.
Now the game becomes more about abusing all the various bullshit to not have enemies ever have a turn or hit you.
>motion captured moron shit moving like retards
Kuro improved animation a lot compared Cold steel, but I miss the sovl.
Towa can canonically flash step like Kurt btw
H-Hayai!
Name a worse character than Towa.
Is the story better?
Yeah Kuro 1 is better, but Kuro 2 dropped the ball with its rushed production, so it's basically a filler. Final fight was kino: https://files.catbox.moe/o7zam7.mp4
I'm just enjoying Van so much more than fucking Rean, even though it's hilarious to meme him as the hahaman, he was fucking boring, Van is much better
I'm still missing better interactions between characters, every character interaction it's "I love this" "yeah me too it's great" or just exposition text, I miss Olivier fucking around Estelle while drunk for example
Who the fuck approved that??? Lmfao
Falcom sucked at anything to do with 3D for a very long time.
I'm gonna be honest... Rean's running animation in CS3/4 is very gayy and unpleasant to watch. It's why I switched the leader to Musse for most of both games (and you can see the bottoms of her ass-cheeks poke out of her skirt when she's running).
God I want to fuck Musse.
Was she the only girl who didn't even bother hiding her lust for Rean for a second?
More or less
She could say she didn't hold back after all, haha
Could have just teleported instead of running, would've looked cooler. But no. Award of coolest idling goes to McBurn.
>ice skating worse than an early 3D game in the 90s
Get it together, Japan
small multi million company pls andastando
What the dog doing?
It's Emma magical cat.
it's a cat
>what is dance choreography
Idol dancing looks like ass.
nice
All Kiseki girls owe me sex.
Especially Rixia, Estelle, Tio and Fie.
for me it's Elaine
Fie grew like 4 cup sizes in a year
That's where she stores the Evade orbs
I would have bred Rixia 7 times by now if I was Roido
>every girl eventually becomes an oppai monster
flatbros...
Kondo please spare her
Cumdolls don’t age
Good
How many girls are there, anyway?
In the entire series? Tons, to the point they forgot some.
A lot
>no sara
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Why does Juna have a "Crossbells Big Black Veiny Cocks" swimsuit on?
That's her Crossbell pride, she's trying to show you it
Well, i have to say i like games with a big cast of characters.
Did they make a good job at writing them? How much do the games focus on them and the relationships they have with each others? Is there any romance between various characters?
Think of that meme about Lightning and when she’s off screen everyone’s asking where’s Lightning
Now change Lightnings name to Rean and you have the plot of CS1-4
>Did they make a good job at writing them?
No
>How much do the games focus on them and the relationships they have with each others?
Whole focus is on Rean and how cool he is
>Is there any romance between various characters?
Everyone wants Rean's dick. Juna and Kurt had thing in CS3 only to be ruined in 4. Schera and Olivier are the only ones, but they had a thing since Sky FC.
Well, that sounds pretty bad, then.
Yeah, it really fucking sucks. The hänen is way too giving big and the progress resets in every game anyway.
CS is pretty bad if you expecting the same level of sovl as Sky, but you can enjoy it if you turn off your brain and just get sucked into it. I did the same thing with Persona 5.
>CS is pretty bad if you expecting the same level of sovl as Sky
Well, i've never played any of these games, so i'm not really sure what should i expect.
Btw, let's say i wanted to give it a try, should i start with Sky, then?
NTA but yeah, just keep in mind its a slow comfy 2000 jrpg
>just keep in mind its a slow comfy 2000 jrpg
>FC is a slowburn but I enjoyed it the most on how comfy it is
That shouldn't be a problem for me.
Ok, then, i guess i'll give it a try to see if the Trails series is something that might spark my interest.
Also great and comfy ost which makes the game even better, it's half of the reason why I love sky so much.
Yeah, FC is a slowburn but I enjoyed it the most on how comfy it is. It basically establishes characters and worldbuilding.
"slowburn" is being generous. Literally nothing happens
There were a few fights with ouroboros and did you forget the "reveal" at the end?
>meaningless conversations even by jrpg's standards
>worldbuilding
go play with legos
Not our fault nobody wants to talk about your xenoblade
Kurt is for Sully
Fucking whores
In game jiggle physics?
Gay rights
Why is he a fag
>Sky gameplay on harder difficulties was so limiting that you only had one strategy available to progress
>Cold Steel gameplay gave you so much shit that no matter what you use you rush through the game
>eventually every fight becomes an S-craft spam
>Kuro takes this spam and makes it into an actual mechanic
I like it
how is Kuro gameplay in nightmare at the end fights?
To be fair Sky higher difficulties were added in new releases. The game is not balanced around it at all, and that becomes really obvious in shit like the first chapters of SC if you dare playing on Hard.
CS is balanced around you being able to survive Nightmare by not holding back and giving 100% evasion to Fie, spamming Adamantine Shield, delays, speed buffs and S-crafts[/spoiler[ Idk about Kuro, but I am guessing they did the same.
I don't want to deal with 400+ hours of Rean.
this. just going to stop after ao unless someone gives me a convincing reason otherwise
CS 1 and 3 started off so good only to fuck it up in 2 and 4.
haha...
Why does it show you the trophy difficulty on the overview? Is it some kinda add-on?
https://forum.psnprofiles.com/topic/78709-psnp-v74-improved-psnp-game-lists-and-more/
I am never going to play a Rean game
>haha, guess I won't be holding back anymore
>*unlocks S-craft*
>alright I will be serious from now on
>*unlocks craft that boosts all their stats*
>ugh I need to be at full power
>*unlocks ANOTHER S-craft*
What did Falcom mean by this
>"Come to me, Valimaaaar!"
>[Acknowledged]
What the fuck does holding back mean?
It means they weren't fighting seriously but just playing around and no one got hurt
Why would anyone do this?
Haha if they went all out all the time someone could get hurt…
Do they at least not do this retarded holding back shit on final bosses or superbosses?
>Final boss gives his evil self-wanking speech
>MC says they'll win with friendship
>After a 10 minute battle, final boss is on the floor, collapsed
>Laughs
>lmaoooo i was just holding back, see you next game!
I think Lloyd is the only one in the series who killed the final boss.
Based policeman doing his job to protect the people
More like
>defeat big bad
>actually there is a bigger bad
And sometimes the final boss is just some ancient monster.
Literally all jrpg ever
Lol no, mainly because most JRPGs aren't a series.
iirc it doesn't happen in SC, zero and kuro 1, when the boss is still human though
They defeat the big bad then cry when they die
Probably to keep power levels vague, so they can always bullshit a win.
so they can surprise the villain later and kill him like Kevin did
3rd was a solid game, but zero replay value. kevin is great.
Because if no one was holding back the entire series would end within 2 games and Fallcum wouldn't make any money.
For some strange reason, literally every character in Trails doesn't fight seriously for 99% of the game.
That includes both your party members who actually have more skills than what you can use and villains.
>Haha... I guess I should stop holding back
You are about to see this every second chapter, and not just from Rean.
Haha... that's why I like Sky more, Estelle is not that strong so for her being rolled on makes sense, Joshua has ptsd and an actual reason for holding back.
It was ok in Sky.
From CS onwards it's just retarded, only Rean has some reason to not instantly use ogre mode.
I'm playing CS3 right now and I could swear at some random point during the first chapter, Kurt just decides to stop holding back in a random popup and unlocks the S-craft
>Kurt
But he is actually improving apparently because of Rean's teachings so I guess that one counts. Also, you can just say that their "character development" counts as trigger for their sudden buffs or something.
Not using your power to the fullest. You know the trope of "Heh not bad you made me use 30 percent of my power"? It's exactly like that except way overused to the point of people here got mentally broken from it.
Do the Moderoid Divine Knights come with paint?
Why do so many characters pretend to be retarded in this game?
>Lechter
>Campanella
>Olivert
I’m sure I’m missing some
They are holding back their iq.
Oh yeah also every member of the gralsritter we’ve met so far pretend to be retarded
When will we get Kuro 1+2?
Why is CS so dumb and comfy
Falcom games are comfy in general, if only they didn't rush the production.
I'm playing Kuro no Kiseki.
its funny how /fg/ always dries up the moment a Ganker thread gets made
>anon tying to kill the thread by bringing pointless drama
Haha.....looks like we killed a totk thread...
When do I get to murder Shirley and Campanella?
Van is so cool
Omg is that Ushiromiya Battlerm
i'd let her kiss(ecchi) me if you catch my drift
Post THAT Rixia webm
What are some points in Trails where a character legitimately does stop holding back and the fight isnt interrupted?
Usually at the end of the game.
>eyes closed, arms crossed
no woman does this irl
Can someone tell the writers to stop using these tropes of holding back and not letting guards down, it's been like 12 games or some shit
Haha, the writers are just holding back for the great finale
>it's been like 12 games
The more games they do, the more they need to have everyone hold back. The second you have an Enforcer not hold back and still lose, they're severely undermined as a future antagonist unless you have them undergo some development or authentic, believable powerup, but thats too much work
there'll be a weird multi-parallel-world game that'll somehow have everybody not hold back, many people die in various universes, and somehow your main game goal is to unfuck them by not holding back and using time travel jank bullshit garbage to kill every single one of them to save their worlds.
The fistbump between Rean and Lloyd in CS3 was cringe
The repeat of same cliches in CS made me hate it. I can stomach a bad guy running away and saying that he did exactly what was needed only so many times.
At some point you realize it's better to not take the writing too seriously and enjoy the comfy journey across the game world, and maybe the gameplay.
It just really annoys me when I liked Sky so much. Least my main man got the ending he deserved.
I stopped caring around CS2, the only reason I still play the games is sunk cost. I was laughing throughout CS3 every time during a boss fight you got the "reduce HP to X%" cementing the fact that my enemy was just going to flee afterwards and they isn't fighting seriously.
>isn't even fighting seriously
>but still needs to throw an S-craft out of nowhere to wipe you if you were not under any form of protection
Thanks Kiseki
>absolutely loved sky and Crossbell.
>liked CS
>absolutely hated CS2
>liked CS3 except the ending
>gave up on CS4 literally in the final dungeon
They just aren't translating it fast enough for me to care anymore.
We're in Kuro 3 soon and they just now bringing in hajimari.
It's really amazing how they still don't want to spend the effort to release them at the same time.
>It's really amazing how they still don't want to spend the effort to release them at the same time.
I dont think simultaneous releases are possible given how much Falcom is known for fucking with things mid development, but the currents gaps are outrageous
There are so many games at some point they may as well just start a new story
They are remaking the Garghav trilogy, too bad is for phones
Thanks for making me remember the cringe.
The game is blatantly making fun of her since she does retarded shit
That's the thing, they are being serious.
I enjoyed using cheat engine to look at her panties
You and me both anon
My hot murderous crazy bitch
I love her voice so much and how her seiyuu can go from adorable to murderous bitch with a flick of a switch
I hate her so much
>ctrl + f haha
>14 results
Haha....that's my trails thread
Altina is the sexiest Kiseki
Japan agreed, don't bother them about it
Hard to argue with facts
>Kiseki spinoff entirely about Rean and Altina travelling the world
>no other characters, just the two of them
Don't tease me like that bro
hate these fucking skanks so much
chapter 2 of zero sucks
>chapter 2 of zero sucks
I bet they do
Trails is unironically my favorite video games franchise.
Is this the ironic trails thread? I love saying how much I hate this garbage series despite having playing all 12 games in the series xD
Name a more autistic video games fanbase.
Hating the writing is not ironic, but people often forget to tell you that everything else about those games is very enjoyable
Doomers are mentally ill anon
These games came out before you were born, so it's understandable it's hard for you to grasp that people have been playing them for a long time.
What's hard for me to grasp is how you retards keep hating and shitting on the series while playing every games.
You will still buy the next game like the good little falcom slave coonsumer that you are.
Isn't this the game series where they're starting to go full woke and push white people = evil? I remember some guy saying in another thread that part of the new games is them changing their national symbol from a white flower because they don't want the nation to be associated with whiteness anymore, and every major villain is some white supremacist. Is this true, Kisekifags?
Yeah, and the main character Estelle is a girl with a huge stick
If the main character of this series was still Estelle maybe it would not have trod down the dark path.
I'm not seeing a no. Kiseki is 100% woke trash at this point, it outright pushes anti white themes in Kuro, plus the LGBTQ garbage. It's nice that your series has cute girls but that doesn't really salvage it from the themes it started pushing in Kuro.
>I'm not seeing no
I'm not even going to entertain your schizo ramblings. Take your fucking meds
Just answer the questions, is the stuff that's been talked about in the game or not, sounds like it is, therefore, Trails is an anti white game. Maybe Falcom are the first JP company to go all in on white hatred, maybe a sign of things to come, we'll see. So much for the lie of JP developers being immune to the woke virus.
fuck off retard
You still haven't said this stuff isn't in the game, I'm not buying or playing games that are full of anti white hate and that push LBGTQ+ crap, if I wanted to put up with that I'd just buy some Western game.
You can keep trying to rile us up so we can spoonfeed you, schizo, but you're not getting an answer at this point.
kys schizo
Fuck off xenobladefag
take your fucking meds schizo
the kuro MC is a gigachad that likes cars and has several white/arab girls lusting after him
Ok but is it true or not that the game pushes anti white themes? Like is it true that they change the white flower of their national symbol because they don't want to be associated with whiteness? That is pretty fucking blatant dude.
I think you should listen less to the pol schizos and form your own opinion, the game is your typical jap anime videogame
Yeah well it's hard to do that when every time I've seen somebody talk about the woke shit in Kuro they actually provide screenshots or lines of dialogue from the game, and I have yet to see any of the Trailsfags deny that it's there. I mean,, talking about how great it is to race swap actors in a historical recreation, all anti immigration activists are all evil white racists and the main villains of the setting, and changing the national symbol from a white flower because it's too associated with whiteness all sounds pretty fucking bad to me. And you guys don't even deny this is all in the game, you just shrug your shoulders and say "oh well who cares" because what, it's a JP game?
Part of the reason some people like JP games is because they are free of the political bullshit Western trash shove into all their games, if Falcom is starting to follow that line their games should be pilloried and thrown into the garbage.
look schizo, play the game and find out by yourself, holy shit, you people should be shot on sight, no wonder libtards have a field day with deranged shit like you, literally end yourself for good
>buy my game to find out it is infested with wokegayry!
No. Again, I've already seen the guys that argue against you actually post dialogue and screenshots, and you guys never post anything to the contrary. When the actual English translation comes out in six or seven years it will be clear what Kiseki has become. At least you'll always have the old games, I guess.
>when the actual english translation comes out
for a pol schizo seems weird to wait for the pozzed translation but ok
Probably. The Japanese hate americans.
Ys doesn't hold back
My unga bunga oneshots boss in 1 turn wife Laura...
Is that what happens if they stop holding back?
I want the hilariously old vampire e-boi who still won't eat her veggies
>resident trails schizo is here
Thread is complete
Came to say the Cold Steel artist was decent starting out, but quite clearly gave up trying to be at least acceptable come Cold Steel III and it pisses me the fuck off. Terrible artist, thank god for Enami.
Kino~
Convince me
If this is what you use to convince someone then you're either a retard or the game isn't worth playing. Maybe both
Its pedophile franchise so if you're not a pedo you are not welcome in our community.
i play this series for the hags
I "play" blue archive so that's not a problem
this is somewhat convincing though, are their voices good?
>I "play" blue archive so that's not a problem
blue archive is hagge now so i'm not convinced
So that gay always complaining about muh community is the same tendie falseflagging as a pedo to close these threads I see
Please?
>like Estelle as MC
>but find Sky a lot more boring to play than CS
it's an abstract kind of hell
Which kiseki has the smelliest pubes?
i've only played Sky 1, Sky 2, and Cold Steel 1.
every time i see images from newer games, my favorite e-bois have been given tits
not a fan
>schizo is pretending to be someone else
Mental problem
Is it worth it to play these games even if you've been spoiled on stuff like the genesis towers and stuff in Cold steel?
Yes
Really?
Why can't they remake Sky with 3D graphics and new gameplay systems
Because Scherezard would be too hot to show?
Forget the hag, I want some Estelle ass.
And Anelace, I guess.
there was a lot of that in CS4
>I want some Estelle ass.
I got you anon
Bless CS3, or was it 4?
4
Why the fuck would Estelle give a haypenny shit about what Rean thinks about... anything, especially her sex life? Bitch, everyone already knows you're fucking your brother. What, are you worried Rean's gonna kill himself if his poor virgin ears hear such scandalous gossip? I fucking hate this franchise.
>Why the fuck would Estelle give a haypenny shit about what Rean thinks about... anything
haha...
I only know small Estelle from TiS, seeing adult Estelle is weird.
>game opens with a prologue featuring the exciting return of Trails' original protagonist
>Falcom actually thinks newcomers know or care who she is
>casuals are just yelling at the screen demanding their self insert back
I fucking hate this series so much.
Rean > Estelle
Fuck off
>thinking randoms will start a series 7 entries in
Doesnt Cold Steel require knowing Trails in the Sky AND Crossbell?
>implying anyone does basic research on games before slurping them up like the good little paypigs they are
What fucking naivete is this?
It's almost like this entire franchise is garbage or something.
Is she going to ever show up
Bro the Falcom writers can't even remember Kevin, do you really think they remember Anelace? They even had Cassisus say he threw away his old sword since they don't remember he gave it to Anelace. I swear people that still think Falcom actually pay attention to or care about the Sky secondary characters are delusional.
>They even had Cassisus say he threw away his old sword since they don't remember he gave it to Anelace
Fucking rude
You misunderstand. They didn't forget that Anelace exists. They genuinely consider giving her that sword to be the same as throwing it in the trash.
You're the one who automatically assumes that anyone even slightly criticizing Trails MUST be a Nintendo loyalist. Jump off a cliff, shill.
Shut up schizo.
Didn't they say they wanted to remake sky at some point?
Do you like Alisa?
Yes
Hag
No
Why not?
No but I like her plastic tits, she should make them bigger.
I prefer her "maid" who is totally not shady as hell
I would pump and dump her
I only know about this series because they gave the girls some incredibly big fucking asses
Rean actually no way fag'd this
Rean's boyfriend is Crow
>no way fag'd this
Is the redhead the only one who manages to have seegs in this series or what
Sex with grandmaster
what's her master plan?
Fuck this character. And no, not in the sexual sense, in the sense of tossing her in the trash where shitty invincible villains like her belong. She's Light Yagami levels off "No fuck you I still win, actually.". If you're still invested in this story, you're an idiot.
>"No fuck you I still win, actually."
Sounds like Kiseki yes
That's literally every villain in the series except for weissmann
Nobody fucking even after 12 games.
Estelle and Joshua did
Grandmaster sex
HEBE CHILD EROTIC
>daily shill thread
Fuck off tendie
>daily verbatim schizo responses
Seethe
>daily acknowledgement of shill thread, daily shitposting responses
Schizo moment, coomergay.
Seethe.
>IT can't be! A non nintendo thread on MY video game board?! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Why are they dressed like whores?
Because they are whores
Based. I love whores. How much do they charge? You can do anything you want to them, right?
about 3 fiddy and yes
>Why are they dressed like whores?
Because Van said so.
>Pedophile is okay when it's a woman.
Fuck off. Nobody likes Angelica, and for good reason.
Obsessed. Kondo doesn't love you and doesn't know you exist. Stop being his bitch.
Kys schizo
Seethe, zeldatard
I love Schizona
why did she dab on rean
Because she could.
Here's the last one I gotta go 🙂
See you next thread anon.
imagine being such a gigachad that a divine blade wants you
I actually torn between her and Elaine.
Anelace was actually a victim of a temporal erasure scheme Ouroborous carried out. She was too powerful.
There'll be a whole game about fixing continuity to bring her back.
What's the huge deal? Did she learn a craft with 1 more delay point than Rean?
Getting the urge to play Tokyo Xanadu again since i never played the EX+ version
Do any girls canonically take the penis of a male MC in this series?
No
Then WHAT IS THE POINT?
None.
Peronafags and their fucking haremshit social bonding shit ruined jrpgs.
>He thinks MC fucking love interests is a persona thing
NGMI
Not the fucking thing, but having multiple "choices" that the MC has to choose from and therefore not allowing any "canono" relationships to not piss off some schizo otaku gay.
Also other females aren't allowed to interact with anyone but MC because that will be cheating for somebody.
I'll never forgive the Japanese gays for creating this shit. You can't have any organic relationships or romances because of this insanity.
I think the problem with dating sim in CS is that because it resets your progress each game and canonically makes Rean is a kissles virgin.
How many jrpg does this actually happen you fucking retard? bet you can't even name 5
Stella Glow, Valkyria Chronicles, Fire Emblem, I think one of the Dragon quests, Xenogears
More reason to play Valkyria.
>Valkyria Chronicles
motherfucker nakadashi'd the wrong one
There is a possibility that Van and Elaine fucked, but knowing falcom the hottest thing they did was a kiss or hand holding.
Daily reminder that literally first half of TitS SC was
>something strange happens in a Liberl region
>it turns out that Ouroboros is behind it
>You fight and defeat him
>"Hahaha I was just holding back! I done my part here" *disappears*
This happens 4 times, in the same 4 locations from the first game. Literally half of the game is pretty much filler and the story only starts going after half of the game is done.
Hey that's cs3 too
That is literally every game. Trails is shit, what do you want?
People pretend that this cliche only started with CS
I've been saying this for awhile, FC/Zero are better than their sequels for that reason.
Are Reanfags still a thing?
tell me about her? She seems really cute and really PINK!
Play her game in two months and find out!
o-ok T_T
She is the best girl
You only need to play 10 games before her
Post more of her!
How is it in english?
mtl patch from /vg/
How long has it been fully playable?
They're very slowly editing it so unless you can tolerate some nonsensical lines it isn't.
I mean I beat Ao with the first translation and it was fine 90% of the time.
Yeah most of it is on par with those old translations.
It's hard to not cum when you see all that damage and delay, understandable.
>Thighs on the right
I need to catch up with the series
This game isn't going to be properly translated for another 3-4 years haha...
better get to work, there's a lot of them
Remember the times when 3/4 of Ganker were Ren threads?
Why does every Kuro character look better than CS?
it's newer
They had an artist who actually gave a slight fuck about making a memorable character design
I am stuck halfway into Cold Steel 2
sex
A lot of kiseki shilling lately huh
Better than nintendo shilling
Shhh we don't want this thread removed
Kek that same samus thread was here today too
Are these bots?
I filter most nintendo stuff out so I don't notice it as much but yes I know Ganker is a tendie board. I'm just noticing that lately more threads about kiseki are being made besides the usual Rean memes.
Play Rixia.
Why aren't there black people in these series?
It has chinese and middle easterners instead.
Because they are ugly
Is there a video game character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Rean Schwarzer? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Pre Civil-War Rean Schwarzer. I'm not talking about Civil-War Spirit Unified Rean Schwarzer. Hell, I'm not even talking about Post-Civil War Professor Rean "Mad Headpatter" Schwarzer who's built up a large bond with his Divine Knight. I'm also not talking about Rean "Merely Holding Back" Schwarzer. I'm talking about Rean "Ogro Blanco" Schwarzer the fully realized Divine Blade, having mastered the strongest form of the Eight Leaves One Blade school of swordsmanship and the ability to infinitely delay his enemies' turns, having beaten one of the greatest practitioners in the continent to earn the said title of Divine Blade, equipped with his sharpened tachi (editor's note: a much better and cooler version of a katana) and all Master Quartz as well as a Gladiator's Headband, having headpatted all females and males across Erebonia, constantly being vigilant so that his male party members dare not get together with the female party members in his harem, understanding his very close relationship to the uber-chad Osborne, being free of his curse that forced him to hold back, having achieved max bonding points with all members of his team, having successfully saved his dead terrorist boyfriend and sent him back to school, with the power of all the Divine Knights in him, having visited Hamel and paid his respects, being able to fly around Erebonia with his airship for however many times he damn well pleases, respectfully mourning the death of Market Manager Otto at least once per day, exercising his ability to not hold back on the daily, and controlling Estelle, Tita, Tio, and Juna as well as others as part of his harem, having beaten his literal future self coming from an alternate timeline who had a total melty and fused with a continential curse, and having just consumed a Zeram Capsule to have his 200+ S-Craft at the ready this very instant.
She could, that's why Falcom pretends she doesn't exist.
Still waiting on Hajimari releasing in June. Then 2-5 more years for Kuro 1 and then 10 years for Kuro 2.
surely not that long for kuro?
>Still waiting on Hajimari releasing in June.
You mean July.
My mistake.
Just use the fantranslations and stop giving nisa money.
>he thinks we'll get all of Kuro in this half of the century
that's pretty optimistic
>this entire thread
you are just as bad as xenotards
Fuck off tendie
how do we save kiseki?
Better gameplay designers.
Forget kiseki, just throw the entire system in a new turn-based RPG series.
Don't make it a 50 games-long series and it will work.
release the games faster by just doing a text translation and throwing out english dubs.
stop trying to shit out a game every year and take your time to make each entry more meaningful
>Get better writers
>Stop mistreating employees
Kill it. And make a new ip. Go the ff route of every game being a completely new experience despite the numbers
CS2 still has the best boss music
I prefer the normal battle theme in CS2
Speaking of CS ost, I miss this
It had successfully tricked me into thinking Sara was going to be a main villain when it played against her. Surely she doesn't get this theme for nothing, right?
The track that plays when you're in the flash forward at the beginning of CS1 absolutely hooked me on the game. That track is probably my favourite. That and the one that plays in the final dungeon in CS2. No I don't remember the names of either of them.
I still remember the name of this absolutely asspulled final dungeon
Fuck I was confused as fuck cause that wasn't right and I searched for ages cause I couldn't find it only to realize it was the fucking CS1 final dungeon ost. I found it
That little bit at 2:15 absolutely stuck in my head.
Oh yeah. I also love this one.
CS1 was pretty good all things considered.
Also a random vid of CS2 final boss doing its thing
Yeah CS3 and 4 in comparison are kind of disappointing in the OST department. 1 and 2 had a lot of great tracks. Though I've heard some Kuro tracks that I really like which is nice.
That asshole was impossible without delay spam.
>delay spam
Haha... he's immune, you are thinking about CS1 final boss
It really has been too long since I've played these games.
Delay was so broken in CS1 that any next game nerfed the fuck out of it.
Not that it matters because you can still 100% evade, cast Adamantine Shield and use the SPD spells.
There's something honestly charming about how ridiculously broken you could be in CS. I like that they compensated more so by buffing everything else instead of nerfing you. It was like a game of trying to out bullshit the AI which was fun
Yeah by CS3 it gets ridiculous. I remember the final boss not even getting more than one or two turns on Nightmare, and Rufus didn't get a single turn because I kept breaking him/using Kurt's order for even more SPD and just endlessly plowing him while on break state.
>There's something honestly charming about how ridiculously broken you could be in CS
I inadvertantly roleplayed a Kiseki character a few times by holding back against a boss (so they didnt die before I saw their S Craft), then proceeded to almost get one shot
What was the strat for that cunt anyway? Really seems like they designed Gral of Erebos to specifically tell you ''just spam S-crafts with CP regen food and make sure you're speedy enough not to let it get a single turn lol lmao'' cause they just gave up trying to balance the game and just put this thing in there that is just about resistant to literally anything and dishes out oneshots + adds like it's candy.
Be fast, check how much delay you are adding with your own actions and make sure you can avoid damage as much as possible.
Oh also. Use Emma lol.
Her arts kill the adds quickly
Yeah you'll still get hit a ton and you'll just have to rely on S-craft spamming. The adds don't even matter and casting arts puts her at the tail end of the delay queue, genius.
There were quartz designed specifically to cut cast delay to nothing. I remember relying on a combo of Shining and Adamantine Shield for defense
Protip: Cast 3 and Action 3 stack.
That's right, you get the casting delay reduced twice, then the actual art delay still reduced once.
You should know that bells and master quartz delay cut and stack. (in fact different tier bell stack too). You can stack your casters enough that they can cast multiple high level artes before the bosses can even get a turn, especially with speed buffs. This gets more abuseable in CS3.
I'm aware. Arts are only slow in early game.
I am baffled when I hear people not spamming the fuck out of them against endgame bosses, especially since you can get physical shield+arts reflect in the same round every single time.
And the huge evasion buff from Shining while we are at it. Cause you totally need more evasion
unironically what was the purpose of this shit
Final dungeon where you can play as everyone, it's a series tradition.
Too bad the final boss will make most of the guest characters not really worth it, though I did have fun using Towa to refill Emma EP forever.
It plays in CS4 against the Awakeners boss fight. I think it was meant to be an Elite boss theme
For me, it's https://youtu.be/iOpFy95bYZo?t=25
Reminder that Artes build is so much more powerful than S-craft spam if you know how to abuse the mechanics. We are talking about exploiting the system so much it would be considered blatant cheating in other RPG, as it completely invalidates the turb based system.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/204985-the-legend-of-heroes-trails-of-cold-steel-iii/faqs/78073/advanced-strategy-and-tactics#at-delay-and-tempo
It is very possible to beat every boss in the game without letting them get a turn with Art spam, and thats NOT abusing chrono burst
That holding back shit makes me worried. I'm still playing FC, just finished the tourney and the guy was holding back kek
Should I give up on this series after all?
That instance isn't too bad.
Man
I guess I'm still mostly in for the cute girls but I wish they had better writing for once.
You learn to just accept it.
haha...
I also know nobody dies anyway.
That's fine usually and I don't like people dying for shock value, but just this first game has so many side characters that you really can just kill off a few of them and nothing would change while also giving the story more weight.
>he forgot the market manager
Well Loewe/Masked Special Forces guy dies, and Weissman/Professor Alba (who's the mastermind and villain of the arc btw) gets killed by Kevin in SC. There's plenty of death in Sky.
Bro come on.
who the fuck is this guy
he's not from kiseki
Loewe deserved it just for being such an annoying boss in two fucking separate games.
Anon your Earth Wall? Your AT Delay? Your SPD up?
I had all of that
Everyone holds back in Trails. Its like a tradition to see who holds back the hardest. Some games do it more often though
And he will do it again. No, I am not kidding.
There is another fight and he will hold back.
>Earth Guard mk2(that's right, two shields)
>Tearl(he recovers most of his hp...)
>Silver Thorn(confuses you and deal aoe art damage)
>impede craft(so you can't cast)
>mute craft(so you still can't cast)
>s-craft(one shots if you don't have earth guard yourself)
>you don't even have 4 party members
Holding back btw
Honestly he was easy as fuck on replay. Didn't even need earth guard/wall.
It's beatable if you are prepared.
Absolute hell if you aren't.
On Nightmare?
I really don't think so. The only reason he is beatable on a second playthrough is because you know you should gear up Schera and abuse the fuck out of AT Advance.
On NG+ nightmare, of course he is. I don't want to torture myself by trying a fresh nightmare.
>on NG+
Of course he's easy on NG+, everything is.
He's gonna rip your asshole a new when you fight him outside the tourney soon.
Two rules to trails:
1. Everyone is holding back.
2. No one lets their guard down.
You forgot the most important rule
0. Your cutscene must contain haha
Also:
Every single person present must add a line or little quip to the conversation.
3. If the enemy gets a turn, your party is absolute dogshit and you should go back to FF
>LGBT shit
Nuke japan
>LGBT shit
Love japan
haha oh boy I do enjoy 4 games behind Japan
please falcom/nisa/whatever, make sure to take longer to translate those game so that japs can spoil me the entire story arc before I can even play the first game
You will enjoy waiting because of Nisa wanted to stagger and you will like it
We Silver Will now?
That's where Trails officially tells you to abuse gameplay mechanics if you don't want to die, even on Normal.
>He doesn't know how to abuse Chain craft and Schera
The Cassius fight on 3rd was legitimately hard as shit
Basically abuse Mueller and Julia’s inherit double attack chain craft.
Anons who don't know this game misunderstand one thing.
People who play Kiseki don't "hate" it, they have fun shitting on the writing because it's pants-on-head retarded, despite having a cool setting and being all around nice games in general.
I just want it to be over man... I'm perpetually trapped in this series due to sunk cost and the games just keep getting worse...
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?????
>Ouroboros spin-off game
>You are leveling down thus getting better at holding back
Thoughs?
>special NG- mode where you literally cannot level up for the real holding back experience
I dig it