Man it's probably recentcy bias but I swear this is top 3 versions of Incarnation of the Devil
I'm finally about to start my Rena run. I did all the post game as Claude et all and plan on doing it again with Rena. Not going to be ending hunting though. They'll fill out over the years
I clocked 50 hours, but I took my time with the game and had to do an extra run to unlock full voice collection (who the fuck thought that was a good idea for an achievment).
The thing is you have to beat the game with all the characters in your party to fully unlock it, but I never picked Ashton or both catbois (simply don't like them that much).
When you skip cutscenes you get to the final boss with the speed of light so it wasn't at all bad.
Didn't read, but you are kind of a fag. What compels you people to "100%" games in the first place? Especially one like SO2, which is just meant to be enjoyed and not autistically minmaxxed.
I know I seem antagonistic, well that's intentional. I genuinely don't understand you losers and you kind of piss me off. Gee, I sure wish I had all the free time in the world, no job, parents pay for/take care of everything, getting israelite meth (adderall) from a doctor and just being able to grind out achievements for any new game and do so inbetween gooning sessions. What a fucking life. It must be nice. Well, I hope you have something to fall back on when shit hits the fan. Parents eventually die or betray you, so you'd best think of something kiddo.
I wonder how many job interviewers will be impressed by your catalogue of 100%'d games lol; how about potential mates? Jeez, kid. I just...I just can't bro. good luck
>which is just meant to be enjoyed and not autistically minmaxxed
Are you sure about that? I will say forcing people to beat the game with every single character is a little bit weird for all the achievements, but not completely unreasonable. That's just two runs of the game.
I feel this anon because SO3 wanted every difficulty beaten individually (4-5 iirc)
And that stupid bunny racing game I didn't bother setting up a turbo for
SO3 battle trophies are all absolutely fucking tedious as shit and should never even be attempted. Seriously, just download a save with all of them already done. Shit like "beat Freya without taking damage as Roger solo in under 5 minutes" is fucking stupid.
Beating the final boss with Fayt solo using the iron pipe isn't that hard just because of how broken crafting is. You can make equipment that makes him practically unkillable, same for the rest of the party against the superbosses and it just becomes a matter of spamming stun bombs and spamming your strongest moves.
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I had assumed so. Anyway, sounds fun, I hope they make SO3R
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It's not that hard, but the idea that some dinky throwaway pipe being able to kill some of the most powerful beings out there is fun in its own way.
I clocked 50 hours, but I took my time with the game and had to do an extra run to unlock full voice collection (who the fuck thought that was a good idea for an achievment).
The thing is you have to beat the game with all the characters in your party to fully unlock it, but I never picked Ashton or both catbois (simply don't like them that much).
When you skip cutscenes you get to the final boss with the speed of light so it wasn't at all bad.
You have to beat the game with every member present (not just recruit them and load).
If you really don't like someone save them for the last, so you can just steamroll everything.
>But I’ve never played the first one
You really don't need to.
Come to think of it, you really don't need to play any of the ones after it either.
SO2 is literally the only good Star Ocean... I think, I haven't actually touched the 6th one, but some in here have been saying it's actually good but I'm skeptical
>Claude, did I ever tell you about Pericci? She was a teenage alien catgirl sex slave your mother and I encountered on our heroic adventure on Roak, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems.
>Your uncle Roddick and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful fight on Roak, and once in a while we’d even have the entire Astral Knights battalion run a train over her, part of official Fellpool “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a longsword better than anyone in the party. She wore a skintight leotard every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her pussycat cameltoe mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a Dragon Axe in half. It was surreal.
>We taught her to grip her precious Ocarina like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Claude, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
>unlock fishing >spend an hour fishing at the town I got it from >sell fish and get up to 250k fol >buy machining boxes to make all the support items >buy fountain pens and make enough books to skill up everyone to lvl 7 on the books I can make >buy crafting materials to unlock all the ???? from crafting/cooking/herb combining >gain a bunch of talents for everyone while doing it >still have like 150k fol left
I think I might have to stop myself here before I start mass producing the +2sp and +2bp foods
Are Klausians ever mentioned outside of Star Ocean 3? And do people know they're inside an mmo video game after Star ocean 3, does Fayt and the others let people know about the 4th dimension?
I'm about to install this shit.
What are some cool tips and tricks I should know?
I know the moment I get o the first town I should craft the fuck out of things to get something called "Nimble fingers" .
Anything else I should do?
You have to check to see if Claude/Rena has nimble fingers the moment you’re able to open the camp menu. If they don’t, restart the game, skip the cutscenes, then check again. And make sure to max determination to lower skill costs. And if you make a character a good writer you can easily churn out books that can give characters up to plus 7 in a skill so you don’t have to spend points on them until you want to get the skills to level 8+. I also recommend having a cook early because you can only have 20 of the basic HP and MP healing items, but you can churn out tons of healing items through cooking that will also have other good effects, all using cheap ingredients.
You get 100 free fucking SP for unlocking talent and crafting 10 irons is dine instantly anyway, reloading for talent is the objectively suboptimal unless you're a ghost chasing retard that want a like dogfucking Celine. If that was the case, then you're still fucking retarded for wanting a dogfucking Celine.
Not him but it's actually better to not have easily obtainable specialties for the free 100 SP
It doesn't much overall but what was objectively the best store to get sponsored for the tournament again?
IIRC it used to be knockout but the store adjacent to them has the better weapon now. So if you're playing claude yourself I'd go with that one and overpower the enemies.
It appears on all shops once you advance in the plot.
When you reach the port after celine's town to get a boat there.
The pens to write books are surprisingly expensive but write as much as you can to level up skills for free
max determination to 10
Get someone as a dedicated author and get their Writing as high as they can so you can start churning skillbook to get skills to 7
Make sure to get Lyre in Kurik in Ketil's house so you can get Orchestra while in Expel, if you miss that, you'd have to wait until Nede
Keep in mind the tight time limit for recruiting characters. Like to get Opera, you have to go right after one event, but before you trigger the next event. If you didn't know to look for her, she's easy to miss.
I'm playing the PSP version because I'm broke, do i need to meta game to get everything in the story or can i just upgrade the skills based on what i think it fits the characters? (I'm aware of the skill that decrease the price of the other skills and I'm getting it as soon as possible)
>50 dollars >devuno >switch port sucks ass >the Bulgarian tranny will never crack it because anime >Tri Ace games never get good sales even decades later
Guess I'll cope with the PSP version
The Switch version can be emulated and is possible if you absolutely must play it right now.
Or you can wait for around 6 months for Denuvo to be removed and just get it for PC.
There's a dish you can cook with Master Chef to get 2 SP a pop. It's not practical for skill farming due to inventory limits, but if you're just a few points shy of a skill level it can help. I think it's Seafood plus Seafood.
I started in Universe difficulty but I got an incredible sword in some crate while fishing and it has really trivialized the game. I went from 200 ATK to 1000
Bowman/Celine and Bowman/Opera both sort of imply a hookup, but nothing explicit >Bowman is in the village in El, taking care of wounded people. Celine walks into the village and notes that Bowman is certainly working hard. Bowman notices Celine and tells her about the monsters west of the village. Celine says there are still a lot of monsters that attack people around here, which makes Bowman think that the restoration of El may take longer than expected. Celine asks if Bowman misses his wife back in Linga, and Bowman changes the subject, saying they should get going to subjugate the monsters. Bowman walks out of the village, followed by Celine.
>Bowman is in the village in El, taking care of wounded people. Opera enters the village and says that she has cleaned out the monster nest to the west. Bowman thanks her as he was too busy to go himself. Opera replies that it was no problem for her by herself. Bowman asks Opera if she is all right with not going back to her own planet. Opera says she will stay with him to the end, even if the restoration of El takes longer than expected.
Just beat it for the first time. It has a lot of issues especially with the writing in the second half of the game and the pacing, but it very clearly has 90s Japan charm that we don't get anymore in new games.
Disc 2 (energy nede part) has no plot. It's a zelda style "go to several dungeons to grab the artifact " gauntlet. It's fine because it's fun in a videogame way.
It would be fine if they didn't juxtapose shit like your dad getting killed with a trip to fun city and a cave and then the 10 wise men dying like bitches in their first fights without their plot armor.
Your harem lasts for as long as the game does. As soon as it's time for an ending, if everyone is the same affection level the game will force an ending through innate hierarchy with Rena or Claude being at the top of the list.
Everybody needs to have equally high affection IIRC
It's kind of hard to not get that one on a first playthrough unless you do book manipulation early.
>head out of the CoT >make all the best weapons I can then put HP heal on all melee >settle for anything decent on casters for now >head back in >much easier
From a few deaths every chain to like, one if the birds get an unfortunate shot off at close range.
Some of the endings where made by people who weren't involved in the main story right?, i don't remember Rena being agressive like this in other places
>we stick sprite on high res background because retro
Christ that looks awful
I have the original and an RGB CRT and it looks a lot better than this shitty remake. Why can't they remake shit properly, like Seiken Densetsu 3 - either make it all in 3d and modernise it or not at all. Stop doing this half-arsed low res sprites on 3d backgrounds shite, it looks atrocious.
Nostalgia goggles. I love SO2 on for psx, but graphically the remake is better. The only big letdown for me was the flood in Kurik. The CGI for the PS1 did a better job of showcasing the destruction I think.
Yeah, that was borderline apocalyptic in the original and stood out all the more since there were so few FMVs. The remake didn't really illustrate that there was supposed to be a massive tidal wave prior to the earthquake either, it felt like the quake was it.
I'm pretty sure the earthquake happened first and then the tidal wave destroyed everything or what was left anyway. Unless I'm going full berenstain bears on this.
Reading all this shit makes me afraid I could brick my save or something?. Is this a stressful JRPG or is it just a "break it the fuck open if you know how" kinda game?
How is progress if i simply play this like a normal JPEG?
He's being facetious. Celine has a 10% chance to start with the Love of Animals talent, which is basically useless. But there's one shitposter insisting people reroll their file for it.
>even VEGH doesn't care about celine's horsecock fetish
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I mean does Vegh cares about anything but bloody armor?
Anyway bros, I'm 1 battle skill short of the get all battle skill to 10 challenge, is there a skill hidden in maze of tribulations? I remember you got backstab in the psx version, but you get that for free now.
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Theres one from raid fights, i think its one of the nede ones.
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I got 13 raid fight challenge cleared...unless there is more than 13 out there
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Did you check all the challenge rewards then? theres like 2 or 3 in those.
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well, I'm retarded, missed the perfect counter achievement one
Lunar 1 and 2 are too soulful for the braindead modern crowd to handle. It could legitimately kill them.
Lunar 1 and 2 are easily some of the most soulful and charming games ever produced. Let's just leave them alone, same with Grandia kids today could never appreciate it.
it's funny because Valkyrie Elysium and SO2R are both outsourced since Square wanted cheap products. Then SO2R clearly understood the assignment, while VE made an average action game but didn't really do much with it. Plus it was tossed off to Soleil, who are only known for Ninjala on the Switch, and have remnants of the fucking Devil's Third developers.
Gotcha. Since i'm not getting Ashton, I guess I'll get Celine first and Cross will be somewhat later?
Also when do I start doing stupid shit with the crafting and writing system or whatever to break the game?
Is that at the first travelled village?
Apparently I make 10 iron to get nimble touch or something in order to be able to pickpocket?
You can start doing crazy skillshit after cross, when your IC menu opens. But you probably want to wait a few more towns to really get into it, to 1) get a fourth member 2) be able to buy some extra items that make things easier. But you can start once you get the IC menu
Thanks anon.
Any tips for me?
I recall being told to get Nimble Touch for picpocketting, though I wonder if I can just get that on everyone.
Second was I was told to level up a skill that was called Deterrmination I think so that skill cost less skillpoints to level[?].
And eventually I need to level someone's penmanship and just start writing textbooks.
Something about faulty bank accounts and royalties..
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please respond. i must set up my warpath.
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nimble touch is a talent claude can start with, or you might unlock it later
for ease of planning, you can just restart if you don't start with nimble
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Apparently unlocking it is just easier than rerolling. I think I just gotta make like 10 iron lumps or ingots or something.
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once you have Orchestra it's basically guaranteed
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How do I go about doing that? and what exactly does Orchestra do?
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Getting nimble touch was important in the original but now it doesn't matter. You can get it easy if you don't start with it.
Get Determination maxed out before you invest in any other skills for every character.
Use Writing to write skill books to save SP.
Use Art to make Goodie Boxes, you can savescum open these boxes for powerful weapons for everyone
I played Star Ocean 2 back in the 2000's. Now I'm just reliving my adolescence. I'll never recapture that original feeling of mystery and exploration when I first played it. That's okay though, I hope all the young folks experiencing the game for the first time can get lost in it the way I did all those years ago.
Then do it. There's no cheevos tied to difficulty
Play on the difficulty that's most comfortable to you
I did it on universe but I think in future playthroughs I might just run it on galaxy so I don't have to refactor that much. I guess I'll find out. I'm in the middle of my second playthrough finally.
Whats your favorite part so more?
Honestly? The entire game now. Previously I liked the game a lot but I didn't really start having fun until Nede. With the system changes (and how fun rena can be to control early game on her route) I enjoy all of it. From front to back.
the way the game used to work is that a lot of the item creations shenanigans was only enabled by Orchestra, which isn't an option until Nede
Now, they just let you loose with it in Krosse right off the bat, with remaking's recreation gem being the only thing that gets locked to Nede, so it lets you do a lot of fun shit right away
It helps that you don't have to buy skills anymore and you just start with all of them. If I remember right, Opera and Precis were the only characters that could use Machinery prior to Nede because of it.
Oh, I figured it out by looking at the Japanese. >シャロンの決して実らぬ禁断の恋 >Sharon's forbidden love that would never come to be
Censored because calling homosexuals forbidden is bad and removed the reasoning for why she should be looking at Cistina rather than Luke. Bravo localisers.
>goddamn, they basically capture a shitton of autist with this remake
the entire SO franchise has been carried by the smallest, most far on the spectrum autist there are. It great. Hope the series never gets too popular. Just enough to keep it a float
It wouldn't be so bad if the animation wasn't motion capture or whatever the hell they're doing. It makes the statics moeblob faces really stand out with the juxtaposition
they keep trying to make anime characters in 3D and then leave them with basic bitch realistic shaders. the characters would look uncanny as is but trying to keep them totally normal 3D utterly fucks it up and makes everyone look like Chucky's retarded japanese cousins
>do cell-shaded model like they do on the new Guilty Gear
Do you mean just the models or the animation style?
Either way that shits really fucking expensive, which is why it only really works for the fighting game stuff.
A whole game like that wouldn't even be made on Square's top budget, let alone a remake or remaster.
most people generally think Guilty Gear is just cel-shading and don't actually get the animation effort behind making that cel-shading look good, but even with just straightforward cel-shading it would be a nigh-universal improvement for SO at least
I'm playing it for the first time on the hardest difficulty and I recommend you don't worry about it too much besides putting points into the IC that lowers the cost of all of the others. If you want my bare bones recommendation, have someone work on Penmanship to write skill books down the line, Effort and Resilience let you get more EXP and SP/BP, Customization is good on everyone to craft better weapons for them, and Alchemy/Replication are useful for someone to have.
Actually you know what, give everyone 1 skill level in everything just to unlock all of the actions, then go over them and focus on leveling whichever interest you most, the level cap is 255 so just play with it
When it comes to old series across any Japanese company, whether or not they get attention comes down to whether or not someone with decent pull in management champions them.
I wonder if they have the similar model that anime production supposedly has where the big wigs mandate that many small projects also get funded to the minimum degree even at the detriment of the big titles because they are so risk averse. There's no way SO has stayed alive so long otherwise unless you're also right and someone high up just fucking loves SO.
The risk of screwing up CT is much larger than SO. If this sucked people would have just forgotten about it. A shitty CT release would be a blunder and people would never shut up about it
Yes, they do. And besides having XG characters in brave exvius and xenogears as a secret boss in woff, they even released a new weltall ID figure recently.
They also still have the Einhander team around, put the Astrea in WoFF, and had said team work on the Gummi Ship sections for KH3 complete with throwing the Schwarzgeist or whatever its name was in with Einhander music and a remix for the bonus boss occasion. There's a lot of these things SE is just sitting around on and have done nothing with because AI cloud farms and crypto projects eating up billions of yen was a higher priority.
A few months back they put out an interview about CC Radical Dreamers edition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNcJyNaUT3o
At one point it goes into why they decided to make it, but also on top of that at one point Mitsuda mentions that he was surprised to get called in to work on music for a CC remaster before an XG remaster. He thought the order would be the other way around.
btw, the primary reason they mentioned was that they didn't like that it was stuck on a defunct console and couldn't be played anywhere else. Since that's also true for Xenogears, well.
A few months back they put out an interview about CC Radical Dreamers edition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNcJyNaUT3o
At one point it goes into why they decided to make it, but also on top of that at one point Mitsuda mentions that he was surprised to get called in to work on music for a CC remaster before an XG remaster. He thought the order would be the other way around.
Well I sure fucking hope that a XG remaster doesn't end up completely butchered like CC did.
aren't remasters always botched (and occasionally fixed), whereas the remake have a pretty good batting average (I think the one bad one was sword of mana?)
Note: pixel remaster is a remake
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>Note: pixel remaster is a remake
Those were also botched though
I’d imagine Square Enix would want to work with Takahashi if they wanted to trult do a remake of xenogears. Hopefully SMRPG does well then maybe nintendo would allow monolith to work on it
The risk of screwing up CT is much larger than SO. If this sucked people would have just forgotten about it. A shitty CT release would be a blunder and people would never shut up about it
> shitty CT release would be a blunder and people would never shut up about it
Shouldn't you upgrade the "half exp needed to level up" only way later because early on is kind of a waste? Of course, with post game power leveling strategies it's pointless but it's useful midgame
effort is ultimately worthless, for up to 100 you can just forged medal them, and at post 100 you can still get multiple level with train and enemy chaining
I'm in the same boat as you, anon. I'm giving it a shot. Seems like it might be good fun based on like the hour I've played of it. apparently it has autistic shit in it you can do.
>Your dad saved an entire planet and stopped a bioweapon from spreading across the universe. >You're an ensign on his ship.
Imagine all the shit you catch from the rest of the crew. Living in that man's shadow must have been brutal
"I know how to scan an alien artifact dad, geeze!"
Can't even blame him.
They can reasonably pass for being in their 30s though. For Steampunk Pimp, remember that he's from a planet where white hair is a normal thing. Lettuce has granny hair, and shes still practically a teenager.
I like how the Japanese make people in their 30s look like people in their mid 50s. Even my father looks younger than this. Do they know that diet and protein quality has gotten better over the years. Aside from fucking micro-plastics polluting everything now.
I've used the bloody armor for raid bosses but I'm going to try and beat the other content without using them. I'm already strong enough to go through most of the universe content as is.
I know Claude's definitely from the group fight in fun city that is unlocked after CoT. Forgot where I got Rena's I remember having it before CoT, might be that missing raid boss then
Ashton is a swordie, even if his moves are mostly kinda shit, he gets a fat stat stick. At the very least you get the privilege of having Precis (forma perfecta) if you have her in the same team with Ashton and Welch. Unlike in the past, Welch is a real shit slapper in the remake, so that's two great characters and one meh (but cool) one.
Ideal companion break up for Rena and Claud playthroughs is something like:
>Claude
Celine
Opera
Ernest
Bowman
Leon
Chisato >Rena
Celine
Ashton
Precis
Welch
Dias
Noel (or Chisato, I won't blame you)
Party size is 8, Claude and Rena mandatory so you can choose 6.
I can go into a long winded explanation as to why but just take Celine, Opera, Ernest, Leon, Bowman, Chisato. If you play New game + as Rena take the opposite characters
It’s annoying, the damage on swords dance and dragon breath is still there, when they actually connect it’s great, why the fuck doesn’t anything stagger
Whoever you feel looks the coolest. Even on the hardest difficulty you can beat the game with pretty much any party at this point long as you experiment with the item crafting.
For me it's Celine, Ashton, Precis, Welch, Leon, and Chisato for Claude. Rena gets the others in the second playthrough. I put Celine in both playthroughs because I like hot witches.
This is what I did for Claude. Though I'm going to drop Celine so I can take both Noel and Chisato in my Rena run. Chisato is just that much of a big requirement for me.
One of the coolest concepts for a skill and her sprite has the cutest animations when doing it, but god damn is Missile Strike one of the most useless skills in the game.
Holy shit I watched some footage this is the ugliest 2DHD game I've seen yet. They are usually not great but this one is fucking disgusting. I was looking forward to trying this since its been so long since I did the og but this is complete eye destruction.
Holy shit I watched some footage this is the greatest 2DHD game I've seen yet. They are usually great but this one is fucking amazing. I was looking forward to trying this since its been so long since I did the og but this is complete eye candy.
I swear her AI is dumber than the original. I think part of it is that the fights are shorter, so those mid spells feel like even bigger wastes of time.
It's equal levels of dumb. She'll sit in the middle of the arena chain casting revive and cure condition if you let her. Mist still needs to be instantly disabled or she'll attempt to cast it.
Arise solid.
Not great but I would recommend it over Zesteria
>Bought Zestiria >Bought Berseria >Bought Arise >Finished Zestiria and all of it's end game >100% Berseria >Quit Arise inside the final dungeon
Zestiria was unironically in every way possible one of the worst JRPGs I had the pleasure of playing on that generation and quite literally singlehandedly ended a rule I had that I developed back when my best friend installed ZSNES on my computer about finishing any game I started.
After that 100% I was scarred for life. So now if I'm a even moderately dissatisfied I'll drop that shit.
turn off their shit spells for spellcasters and as the other anon said put decent skill links for martials
then basically pick the all out option so they spam their stuff, you'll probably need to be lategame so you have enough of an MP pool/drain to do that effectively, but it doesn't matter that much before
More or less, though you can also not chain battles, it feels like they either gave more stam or change the way it works since you recover a shitton more than I remember when you finish batlle
I don't think it matters after 9999, I checked if the stats would get affected by Training stat down and it treats it as if you still have 9999 even if you have more than that
Star Ocean 4 is really just guilty of being a very tropey anime game at a very specific time in history.
The most common complaint you'll hear is that it has two e-boi party members: one uguu moeblob and one slutty e-boicon bait, and along with some other things at the time like the "Dinner Dance" from Infinite Undiscovery, western media latched onto it and shoved into western normalfags faces full force as part of a psy op to damage Japanese domination in the industry so that the west could overtake them.
Lymle and Meracle are actually both adorable, but as we've all established, westerners have no taste.
Lymle is not adorable, you're fucking crazy. She's like a proto-Lalafell from FF, except even worse visually. She looks like an abomination and everything she says sounds retarded.
she's fine if you avoid listening to the naruto voice they gave her in english turning every sentence ending nanoyo into "'kay?" like dattebayo got turned into "believe it!"
I don't know how other people made blindside work. Fuck me this shit is slow as hell to start up, and I don't want to have to stand still for a second holding square until it's charged. I hate that it can uncharge too if you hold it too long. It's so clunky.
Yeah, no. SO4's presentation is fucked thanks to the hideous character models combined with the awkward animation. I wouldn't give a fuck about the PAs if the presentation was as simple as in 2, but everything about 4's bad presentation results in all of the even remotely awkward PAs becoming significantly harder to watch. The forced dub in the original western release sure as fuck didn't help either, nor did giving Lymle that 'kay speech quirk.
>Claude marries Precis >Universe massively improves from a super genius giving unlimited access to information >Claude marries Opera >becomes triclops royalty >Claude marries Rena >gets an elf teen pregnant
it isn't. it falls off after you get the full party, realize the battle system in the game will never get better or open up more, and the game has the audacity to script the final boss such that you can't lose taking away the fun of a challenging end game boss that the series always had.
the only good thing about arise is the soundtrack.
everything else is an absolute disappointment that only lowers your opinion further and further after "defeating" the 5th lord.
also a travesty that the only skits in the game that show the characters having any sort of party chemistry are the hot springs ones and a couple of the owl sanctuary ones.
>and the game has the audacity to script the final boss such that you can't lose taking away the fun of a challenging end game boss that the series always had.
except you had a proper final boss battle before that.
It's like shitting on the Yu Yevon battle in FFX when the proper final boss is Braska's Final Aeon
yeah and that boss was shit too. had absolutely no challenge to it unlike jecht.
making old naked molerat scripted is the most pathetic attempt at delivering any sort of climax for that trainwreck of a game when the bastard just kills himself anyway and cucks you out of truly defeating him.
but hey if you wanna defend that absolute piece of shit of a tales game go ahead.
It had its issue, but I still had fun with it. ToZ almost made me give up on the entire series and I skipped Beseria due to it.
ToZ left me very fucking bitter.
XBC games are like fucking 50-200 hours long depending on how hard you want to go with completion and there's 3 of them plus a spinoff (X).
That being said I enjoy every single one of them but you'll be stuck in for a long time if you stick with it.
SO2 would be a good one off I'd say if you need something that won't take over your life for a few months.
If you do decide to go Xenoblade, I suggest DE for 1,
Some people say start with the Wii one but DE unironically is the better version in every respect, and this is coming from someone who played the Wii version, the fucking 3DS port, and DE.
Just understand that the Blade sereis has Psuedo MMO combat. with cooldowns and auto-attack.
Yeah well that's a xeno game on its native hardware for you.
Again I'd suggest starting with 1 though. It's pretty imperative to start with if you're gonna go down the line.
XBC games are like fucking 50-200 hours long depending on how hard you want to go with completion and there's 3 of them plus a spinoff (X).
That being said I enjoy every single one of them but you'll be stuck in for a long time if you stick with it.
SO2 would be a good one off I'd say if you need something that won't take over your life for a few months.
If you do decide to go Xenoblade, I suggest DE for 1,
Some people say start with the Wii one but DE unironically is the better version in every respect, and this is coming from someone who played the Wii version, the fucking 3DS port, and DE.
Just understand that the Blade sereis has Psuedo MMO combat. with cooldowns and auto-attack.
and
I love live a live, but you will not get your JRPG fix from it
and not tales of arise
And if you're looking for a Tales game to play then play Vesperia or Symphonia.
Ashton can get an ending with the sick kid in the Harley on Rena's story.
Never seen it myself so I dunno the requirements. Bowman can also cure her but I don't know if it's ending or not, also remember being told it was chance based in the original but I dunno if that's true or not.
Anyway I THINK once you cure her you no longer get Ashton's solo ending. So if he's not paired with anybody, you'll get an ending where he visits her.
I didn't need bowman to cure her. You get a sidequest after a PA where she gets worse, and you take Ashton to the mountain where the giant bird is to get a cure for her disease.
Leon confides in his big brother that he likes all the girls and you can get one of the girls to come talk to him. Most of them let him down gently without him realizing it but Rena just spaghettis all over the fucking place
>Buy 8 tri-emblems so I can mass produce remaking them >HP, MP, HIT, Coercion, Gathering Stars, Repose, or that one that slightly increases break output >Haven't seen anything else after 10 attempts
Do some accessories just have complete shit factor pools to offset their base stats?
because it's cute. I always thought he was smart because he was actually an alien, but he's canonically just a freak and the ears are a rare Expel trait like being albino or something.
Recessive gene.
Expellians have fucked Fellpools in the past, and so every now and then, mutant cat people spawn in every few generations.
I think it's a neat established lore bit that in the future of their universe, Expellians have to show a full DNA certificate on marriage just to check if they'll give birth to a mutant spawn since the Expellian gene pool is such a clusterfuck. And yes, Nedian genes have been added to their stock. Chisato and Noel got busy it seems.
SO is weird like that. Time travel and random warps are a thing the series just drops into the story randomly. Some Fellpool probably walked into one of them and ended up in Expel.
Reminder that Edge and Reimi are actually modified superhumans that got Muah DNA shoved into their bodies. The same race that Mavelle from SO1 was from.
Various races popping up in other planets is just a thing that happens in SO.
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That makes sense though
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Yes, and the reason why Muah people appear in SO1 was because >And then they got caught in a space-time portal
And don't even get me started on the weird bullshit surrounding Meracle. Point is, people in SO just pop out willy nilly across the universe on a whim.
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LUTHERRRRR
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Iirc meracle was kidnapped by space pirates like a cow in roak and crashed on earth by chance.
playing the game for the first time, skill system is a bit overwhelming. What's the strat for exploiting it, crafting stuff at a profit to sell for money to write skill books? I wanna play on universe but enemies keep one shotting me and my party, I can do fights solo it's just kinda rough if there's loads of enemies on the field, especially spellcasters. Is crafting armor the only way to ensure I have enough defense to not explode immediately?
max determination to 10
Get someone as a dedicated author and get their Writing as high as they can so you can start churning skillbook to get skills to 7
Make sure to get Lyre in Kurik in Ketil's house so you can get Orchestra while in Expel, if you miss that, you'd have to wait until Nede
Huh. You might be right
By 50 you'd be at 250% on all stats
So what? You'd really only need to be at like 2k attack and 1k defense to scale gracefully into the final fights.
Probably be able to do that even before going to the cave.
I actually went on a huge binge rewatch of the OG Iron Chef last month (Sakai is my NIGGA) so this part and moreso the one in Suikoden are my absolute favorite
>Trying to get CRT Super Boost on armor for everyone
I probably shouldn't be trying this. It counts as a support factor right? If I've been trying to get it from the wrong pool I'm going to kill myself
ive been playing the divine force and i got to the point where you beat the 3 horned baddies and the king, then they just scaped jumping out of the tcamera.
does this shit gets better?
Some Japanese need to go back to art school.
It looks rough, OG looked way better
It's the same sprites you actual retard
The original didn't have that eye raping HD2D shit.
>square enix actually hired that man
But I am
But I already did. It was kino.
More qol would've been nice though. Inventory filter especially.
Man it's probably recentcy bias but I swear this is top 3 versions of Incarnation of the Devil
I'm finally about to start my Rena run. I did all the post game as Claude et all and plan on doing it again with Rena. Not going to be ending hunting though. They'll fill out over the years
How long was it to 100%? Was it tedious?
I clocked 50 hours, but I took my time with the game and had to do an extra run to unlock full voice collection (who the fuck thought that was a good idea for an achievment).
The thing is you have to beat the game with all the characters in your party to fully unlock it, but I never picked Ashton or both catbois (simply don't like them that much).
When you skip cutscenes you get to the final boss with the speed of light so it wasn't at all bad.
I'll probably stream something on the side for the second run, and 50 hours doesn't seem bad.
>I'll probably stream something on the side for the second run
literal adhd
Didn't read, but you are kind of a fag. What compels you people to "100%" games in the first place? Especially one like SO2, which is just meant to be enjoyed and not autistically minmaxxed.
I know I seem antagonistic, well that's intentional. I genuinely don't understand you losers and you kind of piss me off. Gee, I sure wish I had all the free time in the world, no job, parents pay for/take care of everything, getting israelite meth (adderall) from a doctor and just being able to grind out achievements for any new game and do so inbetween gooning sessions. What a fucking life. It must be nice. Well, I hope you have something to fall back on when shit hits the fan. Parents eventually die or betray you, so you'd best think of something kiddo.
I wonder how many job interviewers will be impressed by your catalogue of 100%'d games lol; how about potential mates? Jeez, kid. I just...I just can't bro. good luck
you'd have plenty of time if you stopped spending it all whining like a little bitch on Ganker
>which is just meant to be enjoyed and not autistically minmaxxed
Are you sure about that? I will say forcing people to beat the game with every single character is a little bit weird for all the achievements, but not completely unreasonable. That's just two runs of the game.
>SO2
>just meant to be enjoyed and not autistically minmaxxed.
Get the fuck out of my thread
I probrably make 50x more than your entire family tree combined and i still going to 100% any game i want.
didn't read, your blurb is longer than that homosexuals blurb YWNBAW
I feel this anon because SO3 wanted every difficulty beaten individually (4-5 iirc)
And that stupid bunny racing game I didn't bother setting up a turbo for
>one of the trophies is beating up a little girl superboss with a pipe
SO3 battle trophies are all absolutely fucking tedious as shit and should never even be attempted. Seriously, just download a save with all of them already done. Shit like "beat Freya without taking damage as Roger solo in under 5 minutes" is fucking stupid.
FINAL
BOSS
WITH
PIPE
sounds fun though
Beating the final boss with Fayt solo using the iron pipe isn't that hard just because of how broken crafting is. You can make equipment that makes him practically unkillable, same for the rest of the party against the superbosses and it just becomes a matter of spamming stun bombs and spamming your strongest moves.
I had assumed so. Anyway, sounds fun, I hope they make SO3R
It's not that hard, but the idea that some dinky throwaway pipe being able to kill some of the most powerful beings out there is fun in its own way.
you mean you don't wanna get a battle trophy for pressing buttons 1,000,000 times legitly?
wow that's cheating.
how cancer is the voices achievement?
Already written it here
You have to beat the game with every member present (not just recruit them and load).
If you really don't like someone save them for the last, so you can just steamroll everything.
The 2023 Game of the year is a straightforward remake of a game from the 90s. Good job gaming industry.
welcome to modern gaming
you're either a remake, you're based off of a nostalgic property, or you're a cinematic shitfest
And don't forget to read the spin-off manga by the official artist!
https://nhentai.net/g/11457/
>got to taste the ears
The spritework looks horrible with that visual style
>muh gwaphix
since when did Ganker become infested with zoomzooms?
>not liking remake slop makes you a zoomer
???
when most of the oldfags with a brain decided to leave the site
2DHD doesnt look good for every game it's made with. have a nice day
Nah, the sprites looked horrible before, too.
They ruined Mighty Blow.
Yeah Mighty Blow sucks now. Have to change the OST for the fights where it exists.
strange complaint
they literally gave you the option to choose original OST
Don't be obstinate. He's not wrong. Changing the OST doesn't stop him from being right.
But i like the song better than the original. That makes him wrong.
My new wallpaper.
We she make a good mom?
Where are the elf ears?
But I’ve never played the first one
>But I’ve never played the first one
You really don't need to.
Come to think of it, you really don't need to play any of the ones after it either.
SO2 is literally the only good Star Ocean... I think, I haven't actually touched the 6th one, but some in here have been saying it's actually good but I'm skeptical
>Claude, did I ever tell you about Pericci? She was a teenage alien catgirl sex slave your mother and I encountered on our heroic adventure on Roak, a fine piece of jailbait from a more civilized age. She had the tightest body and the perkiest little breasts in the galaxy; barely legal in most systems.
>Your uncle Roddick and I used to doubleteam her at the end of every successful fight on Roak, and once in a while we’d even have the entire Astral Knights battalion run a train over her, part of official Fellpool “training” of course. In time, she learned how to handle a longsword better than anyone in the party. She wore a skintight leotard every day so we told her there were no panties in space, and since she was constantly doing acrobatics you’d get a glimpse of her pussycat cameltoe mid fight as she’d do a flip while slicing a Dragon Axe in half. It was surreal.
>We taught her to grip her precious Ocarina like a dildo and she constantly got captured by pirates and slavers almost every other day. It was ridiculous, like a constant porno Claude, you have no idea. And she was a good friend.
>unlock fishing
>spend an hour fishing at the town I got it from
>sell fish and get up to 250k fol
>buy machining boxes to make all the support items
>buy fountain pens and make enough books to skill up everyone to lvl 7 on the books I can make
>buy crafting materials to unlock all the ???? from crafting/cooking/herb combining
>gain a bunch of talents for everyone while doing it
>still have like 150k fol left
I think I might have to stop myself here before I start mass producing the +2sp and +2bp foods
Oh neat, someone capped my post.
UPPERCUT
Are Klausians ever mentioned outside of Star Ocean 3? And do people know they're inside an mmo video game after Star ocean 3, does Fayt and the others let people know about the 4th dimension?
Star Ocean 3 is the furthest game in the timeline and the eternal sphere twist isn't referenced in any subsequent game
Just beat it, good game. barely managed to beat the final boss when he was spamming the best spells
I'm about to install this shit.
What are some cool tips and tricks I should know?
I know the moment I get o the first town I should craft the fuck out of things to get something called "Nimble fingers" .
Anything else I should do?
You have to check to see if Claude/Rena has nimble fingers the moment you’re able to open the camp menu. If they don’t, restart the game, skip the cutscenes, then check again. And make sure to max determination to lower skill costs. And if you make a character a good writer you can easily churn out books that can give characters up to plus 7 in a skill so you don’t have to spend points on them until you want to get the skills to level 8+. I also recommend having a cook early because you can only have 20 of the basic HP and MP healing items, but you can churn out tons of healing items through cooking that will also have other good effects, all using cheap ingredients.
nagger why are you reloading save when youncan just craft a bunch of iron to unlock talents?
It’s just best to start off with it. It doesn’t take a billion reloads or anything either. You’ll tend to get it first try anyways.
Wrong, it's better to learn talents than to start with them
You get 100 free fucking SP for unlocking talent and crafting 10 irons is dine instantly anyway, reloading for talent is the objectively suboptimal unless you're a ghost chasing retard that want a like dogfucking Celine. If that was the case, then you're still fucking retarded for wanting a dogfucking Celine.
Not him but it's actually better to not have easily obtainable specialties for the free 100 SP
IIRC it used to be knockout but the store adjacent to them has the better weapon now. So if you're playing claude yourself I'd go with that one and overpower the enemies.
>If they don’t, restart the game, skip the cutscenes, then check again.
you don't have to do that anymore, anon.
where do you get the material to make books? haven't played much but i haven't found a shop selling it yet. only got a bunch from a quest
It appears on all shops once you advance in the plot.
When you reach the port after celine's town to get a boat there.
The pens to write books are surprisingly expensive but write as much as you can to level up skills for free
max determination to 10
Get someone as a dedicated author and get their Writing as high as they can so you can start churning skillbook to get skills to 7
Make sure to get Lyre in Kurik in Ketil's house so you can get Orchestra while in Expel, if you miss that, you'd have to wait until Nede
Keep in mind the tight time limit for recruiting characters. Like to get Opera, you have to go right after one event, but before you trigger the next event. If you didn't know to look for her, she's easy to miss.
There's this image.
Is it safe to assume that's the order they appear in?
Almost but Welch is more like the same row as Opera.
No. The original is mediocre, and the remake is likely the same or worse.
Laughing at shills trying to pretend this is some legendary JRPG however.
*BANG BANG*
>CAM ON BUNNEYH
*BANG BANG*
I'm playing the PSP version because I'm broke, do i need to meta game to get everything in the story or can i just upgrade the skills based on what i think it fits the characters? (I'm aware of the skill that decrease the price of the other skills and I'm getting it as soon as possible)
As your first playthrough is difficulty locked you can just play it like a regular JRPG
>50 dollars
>devuno
>switch port sucks ass
>the Bulgarian tranny will never crack it because anime
>Tri Ace games never get good sales even decades later
Guess I'll cope with the PSP version
if you emulate the switch version it runs perfectly with improved loading times and theres a 60 fps mod
The Switch version can be emulated and is possible if you absolutely must play it right now.
Or you can wait for around 6 months for Denuvo to be removed and just get it for PC.
seems to be doing alright on steam. Its reviews ar OP, which is something that most Square remasters ever get.
Just finished a custom space elf pussy daki, u mirin Ganker?
>wearing shoes in bed
Degenerate
I already am. Just got the four Nede fields to go to
This obsession Space Elf Pussy needs to stop
I will never stop
Best way to get skill points? I want to max out a few things.
Level up. The Bodyguard skill lets you instantly defeat green enemies if a party member runs into them, its the best way to get xp.
Simply level up
There's a dish you can cook with Master Chef to get 2 SP a pop. It's not practical for skill farming due to inventory limits, but if you're just a few points shy of a skill level it can help. I think it's Seafood plus Seafood.
I started in Universe difficulty but I got an incredible sword in some crate while fishing and it has really trivialized the game. I went from 200 ATK to 1000
This is just how this game is. It will even out in disc 2.
But then again Bloody Armor + Sword of Life exist
It doesn't much overall but what was objectively the best store to get sponsored for the tournament again?
NuRena is fucking cute.
she's got that thousand-cock stare
Starting with Octopath I hate it when the post-processing effects blow out the colors of the sprites.
They look nicer here.
Welch looks like Claude's little sister in this image. Slightly shorter, same blonde hair, same hair part.
>galaxy-modo? isn't that for elementary school kids?
Is space elf pussy really that good?
Space Triclops > Space Elf
the best
Pink inside?
inside what?
I will when it's cracked.
what even is this pose she's doing
Ancient Expellian Sword Style she learned from Dias, where you hold your sword backward like a dildo.
surreal
He purposely trained her wrong as a joke.
Are there panties in space?
Can Rena (or anyone else) get Bowman cock or is he faithful to his wife back home?
looks like it's platonic
Rena's voice from PSP is so cute.
I haven't played the remake yet, did they redo the voice over for english?
please respond
No. PSP slop only. Play with JP if you want good VA.
Bowman/Celine and Bowman/Opera both sort of imply a hookup, but nothing explicit
>Bowman is in the village in El, taking care of wounded people. Celine walks into the village and notes that Bowman is certainly working hard. Bowman notices Celine and tells her about the monsters west of the village. Celine says there are still a lot of monsters that attack people around here, which makes Bowman think that the restoration of El may take longer than expected. Celine asks if Bowman misses his wife back in Linga, and Bowman changes the subject, saying they should get going to subjugate the monsters. Bowman walks out of the village, followed by Celine.
>Bowman is in the village in El, taking care of wounded people. Opera enters the village and says that she has cleaned out the monster nest to the west. Bowman thanks her as he was too busy to go himself. Opera replies that it was no problem for her by herself. Bowman asks Opera if she is all right with not going back to her own planet. Opera says she will stay with him to the end, even if the restoration of El takes longer than expected.
Just beat it for the first time. It has a lot of issues especially with the writing in the second half of the game and the pacing, but it very clearly has 90s Japan charm that we don't get anymore in new games.
Disc 2 (energy nede part) has no plot. It's a zelda style "go to several dungeons to grab the artifact " gauntlet. It's fine because it's fun in a videogame way.
It would be fine if they didn't juxtapose shit like your dad getting killed with a trip to fun city and a cave and then the 10 wise men dying like bitches in their first fights without their plot armor.
>small training arc in the colosseum VR room
>proceeds to murder all 10 galaxy destroying bioweapons
disc 2 has shit happening constantly, there's a plot but yes, the gameplay changes a little during the Field quests.
I have a question: If I play as claude can I make a harem?
Of course.
Claude Rena Chisato Precis Opera Welch Celine Leon
Your harem lasts for as long as the game does. As soon as it's time for an ending, if everyone is the same affection level the game will force an ending through innate hierarchy with Rena or Claude being at the top of the list.
That's fine. I want to fuck Rena so this is a preferable outcome.
How do you unlock ending 99? Do all the others?
Everybody needs to have equally high affection IIRC
It's kind of hard to not get that one on a first playthrough unless you do book manipulation early.
>Everybody needs to have equally high affection IIRC
Oh is that it? I can do that.
Yes, but one of the girls will be a shota
No.
>head out of the CoT
>make all the best weapons I can then put HP heal on all melee
>settle for anything decent on casters for now
>head back in
>much easier
From a few deaths every chain to like, one if the birds get an unfortunate shot off at close range.
Some of the endings where made by people who weren't involved in the main story right?, i don't remember Rena being agressive like this in other places
Post Space Elves
every day until you like it
That looks like the tomboy from Arslan Senki.
>most powerful character in the game is a living SO3 plot twist reference
SO3 haters on suicide watch
>we stick sprite on high res background because retro
Christ that looks awful
I have the original and an RGB CRT and it looks a lot better than this shitty remake. Why can't they remake shit properly, like Seiken Densetsu 3 - either make it all in 3d and modernise it or not at all. Stop doing this half-arsed low res sprites on 3d backgrounds shite, it looks atrocious.
It looks great, some of you have to be fucking blind or something. I don't know if you guys just forget how ugly the original was or what.
Just ignore, it's one autist in every fucking thread saying the same thing over and over
Nostalgia goggles. I love SO2 on for psx, but graphically the remake is better. The only big letdown for me was the flood in Kurik. The CGI for the PS1 did a better job of showcasing the destruction I think.
Yeah, that was borderline apocalyptic in the original and stood out all the more since there were so few FMVs. The remake didn't really illustrate that there was supposed to be a massive tidal wave prior to the earthquake either, it felt like the quake was it.
I'm pretty sure the earthquake happened first and then the tidal wave destroyed everything or what was left anyway. Unless I'm going full berenstain bears on this.
The Lacuer Hope FMV was also a lot better on the PSX, the version in the remake was super lazy.
The ending FMV was pretty solid in the remake though.
he keeps looking in the mirror and commenting as if it were the game instead
Downloading it right now, gonna start playing soon yeeeeehaw
Reading all this shit makes me afraid I could brick my save or something?. Is this a stressful JRPG or is it just a "break it the fuck open if you know how" kinda game?
How is progress if i simply play this like a normal JPEG?
You can absolutely play it as a normal JRPG.
Also it's impossible to brick your save unless you really want Celine to fuck horses
>unless you really want Celine to fuck horses
What did you just say?
Explain. Now.
He's being facetious. Celine has a 10% chance to start with the Love of Animals talent, which is basically useless. But there's one shitposter insisting people reroll their file for it.
This, considering the legend himself has made his position on the subject clear there's no reason to listen to one retarded anon.
>even VEGH doesn't care about celine's horsecock fetish
I mean does Vegh cares about anything but bloody armor?
Anyway bros, I'm 1 battle skill short of the get all battle skill to 10 challenge, is there a skill hidden in maze of tribulations? I remember you got backstab in the psx version, but you get that for free now.
Theres one from raid fights, i think its one of the nede ones.
I got 13 raid fight challenge cleared...unless there is more than 13 out there
Did you check all the challenge rewards then? theres like 2 or 3 in those.
well, I'm retarded, missed the perfect counter achievement one
thanks dude
HUH?
Pickpocketing is so fun. Thief has got to be the funnest class in rpgs
Just got a free camera and film fuck yeah.
>travel by boat to another continent
>no soulful cutscene of 3d boat slowly navigating through world map
It's the small things.....
Rena's PUSSY.
I know it's hard to do it while Rena and Dias are fucking like rabbits right next to you but shut up and go to sleep Claude
>star ocean 3 get a remake
>they have active 4 party slots instead of 3 and change balance to compensate
How would you react?
>Star Ocean 3 gets a remake
>Its a demake in the art style of Second Story R
I'd try the demo at the very least.
Would be great actually.
2 has the best artstyle in gaming. More games should look like it
I always hated those motion captured animations on the anime moeblob character models that had no facial expressions beyond blinking.
>demake
have a nice day.
Everything visually from SO3 looks dated as fuck and not in a good way
That'd be an improvement, the character models in 3 and 4 looked fucking awful.
If anything, I want them to add playable Clair, somehow.
it needs to remove the shitty twist
>best game of all time gets remade and is made even more kino
sign me the fuck up
Why should I?
To support the NTR/BSS bros as its one of the few games where the girl the protagonist likes can end up with someone else
That's not quite the endorsement you think it is.
Is this from the Switch version? it looks kid of shit. Even on PS4 it looks so much more prettier and cleaner.
We NEED a Lunar 1/2 and Xenogears 2DHD remake. I must see an hd bromide of Lucia.
Lunar just got a port to phones or whatever. With the same working designs script people seem to enjoy suffering through. Go nuts
Lunar 1 and 2 are too soulful for the braindead modern crowd to handle. It could legitimately kill them.
How many other villains are there that ride the line between intimidating and flaming homosexual like Ghaleon
Kuja?
I completely forgot about FFIX
most anime villains?
I hope the people that made this one will do this. They really put work into this.
Grandia 1 and 2 would get a new remaster that wasn't a lazy glorified PS1 port before Lunar got a full on remake like this.
Grandia 3 remaster when?
this but also this
Lunar 1 and 2 are easily some of the most soulful and charming games ever produced. Let's just leave them alone, same with Grandia kids today could never appreciate it.
We need a valkyrie profile remake.
I thought you got a new game and it sucked
do you reall trust them
As long as we keep the dub for it.
it's funny because Valkyrie Elysium and SO2R are both outsourced since Square wanted cheap products. Then SO2R clearly understood the assignment, while VE made an average action game but didn't really do much with it. Plus it was tossed off to Soleil, who are only known for Ninjala on the Switch, and have remnants of the fucking Devil's Third developers.
>and have remnants of the fucking Devil's Third developers.
can't be worse than Luminous Productions
Im still early on. Is there actually a limit to how many I can recruit?
You can recruit 6 characters. Claude and rena are mandatory, max party size is 8
thanks anons
Speaking of Grandia, do you know if its possible to run it on Steam Deck? I couldnt get it working.
You could just emulate the console versions if the PC ports are shitting out on you.
You can only recruit 6 characters.
Rena and Claude are mandatory
>Celine
>Opera
>Precis
>Welch
>Chisato
Who else should I recruit? Note, I don't have the game yet so I don't know if it's a good party.
Claude to fuck them all
What does "PA" mean in this context?
private action
Gotcha. Since i'm not getting Ashton, I guess I'll get Celine first and Cross will be somewhat later?
Also when do I start doing stupid shit with the crafting and writing system or whatever to break the game?
Is that at the first travelled village?
Apparently I make 10 iron to get nimble touch or something in order to be able to pickpocket?
You can start doing crazy skillshit after cross, when your IC menu opens. But you probably want to wait a few more towns to really get into it, to 1) get a fourth member 2) be able to buy some extra items that make things easier. But you can start once you get the IC menu
Once you do the story events in a village called Marze, most of the crafting opens up and you can crack the game wide open
what do you get in marze but not before
a bunch of the IC materials are storyline progression locked
I'm asking which ones
Specifically, pens for Writing and Contraband
for what it's worth, I ended up survival-ing until I got pet food, and then used pet food to buy pens and more pet food
Thanks anon.
Any tips for me?
I recall being told to get Nimble Touch for picpocketting, though I wonder if I can just get that on everyone.
Second was I was told to level up a skill that was called Deterrmination I think so that skill cost less skillpoints to level[?].
And eventually I need to level someone's penmanship and just start writing textbooks.
Something about faulty bank accounts and royalties..
please respond. i must set up my warpath.
nimble touch is a talent claude can start with, or you might unlock it later
for ease of planning, you can just restart if you don't start with nimble
Apparently unlocking it is just easier than rerolling. I think I just gotta make like 10 iron lumps or ingots or something.
once you have Orchestra it's basically guaranteed
How do I go about doing that? and what exactly does Orchestra do?
Getting nimble touch was important in the original but now it doesn't matter. You can get it easy if you don't start with it.
Get Determination maxed out before you invest in any other skills for every character.
Use Writing to write skill books to save SP.
Use Art to make Goodie Boxes, you can savescum open these boxes for powerful weapons for everyone
i want to but the crack is not out yet
50 chain battle? ez
victory
I played Star Ocean 2 back in the 2000's. Now I'm just reliving my adolescence. I'll never recapture that original feeling of mystery and exploration when I first played it. That's okay though, I hope all the young folks experiencing the game for the first time can get lost in it the way I did all those years ago.
Play 6. Fund future space elf waifu endeavors
I heard mixed things on the game. If they release a director's cut I'll jump on it. Until then I'll leave it on my wish list.
iktfb
I really dont like how they did the 3d backgrounds style wies. It could still have been 3d bgs, but it needed pixelated artwork to match the sprites.
Kajimoto is so fucking good
Did those franchises ever crossover in any capacity for real?
>Did those franchises ever crossover in any capacity for real?
I want to say in one of the Gachas
I BET ARCHE FUCKS LIKE A TIGER
you bet wrong dejap translation enjoyer
It's such an iconic line in the tales fanbase that i will never forget it
Thoughts Marielle?
cute t-posing autist stuck in overly warm yet stiff coat
oh right the 50 battle survival in fun city gives one too.
Who is Rena's VA? She sounds so fucking familiar.
Pretty sure she also does the pink haired girl from Tales of Vesperia
Oh fuck that's where I remember her from she's fucking Estelle.
No I don't think that's her
Oh it's absolutely her, but apparently she's got two VAs credited on wiki
>he thinks I remember english voice cast names
Rena's VA WAS in Vesperia but she's Judith.
We're talking about japanese voices right?
We're talking about the dub.
No one cares about the sub
>unironic dub defenders and enjoyers
The absolute state of modern Ganker
>>>/a/
t. weebs in denial
The absolute state of (You) more like
>>>/a/
Only fags went through the effort of getting an undub working back in the day its not like now where dual audio is the norm
The only dub I care about is the original NA dub because it was too ridiculous. Original Dias VA does radio spots and commercials now kek.
Yeah and OG Wesker reviews katanas.
https://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/Eden-Riegel/
now thats a chad chin
>Sexstelle and DePo
Based. I like her she's a nice VA. I've heard her for a while but never actually knew her name.
She's Estelle from Vesperia
You can literally see the voice cast from the main menu.
eden riegel, sam riegel's (jude from tales of xillia) sister
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Riegel
Okay. How do I break the shit out of this game at a record pace?
There are more ways to break the game than playing normally
What a horrible art style. Pass.
>post-game dungeon
Getting a little tempted to drop off of Universe difficulty because I want to move on.
Then do it. There's no cheevos tied to difficulty
Play on the difficulty that's most comfortable to you
I did it on universe but I think in future playthroughs I might just run it on galaxy so I don't have to refactor that much. I guess I'll find out. I'm in the middle of my second playthrough finally.
Honestly? The entire game now. Previously I liked the game a lot but I didn't really start having fun until Nede. With the system changes (and how fun rena can be to control early game on her route) I enjoy all of it. From front to back.
the way the game used to work is that a lot of the item creations shenanigans was only enabled by Orchestra, which isn't an option until Nede
Now, they just let you loose with it in Krosse right off the bat, with remaking's recreation gem being the only thing that gets locked to Nede, so it lets you do a lot of fun shit right away
It helps that you don't have to buy skills anymore and you just start with all of them. If I remember right, Opera and Precis were the only characters that could use Machinery prior to Nede because of it.
>play 4 niggas in a row #62352638
no
action rpg numbnuts
>4 niggas in a row but in REAL TIME
still not playing it
Your loss retard
>your loss for not playing the same shit but with a small twist
okay
uh actually the naggers run around and do not stand in formation
Whats your favorite part so more?
Well is it?
that she's a sexbot? Yes.
How is this not the right answer?
Oh, I figured it out by looking at the Japanese.
>シャロンの決して実らぬ禁断の恋
>Sharon's forbidden love that would never come to be
Censored because calling homosexuals forbidden is bad and removed the reasoning for why she should be looking at Cistina rather than Luke. Bravo localisers.
This game actually good?
No version of star ocean 2 was ever bad.
no, go away
>32.5% Players has beaten Iseria Queen on Steam Achievement stats in less than a week
goddamn, they basically capture a shitton of autist with this remake
It's kinda hilarious considering some games wouldn't even get 30% completion rate on achievement, while this game gets that much for EX superboss
>goddamn, they basically capture a shitton of autist with this remake
the entire SO franchise has been carried by the smallest, most far on the spectrum autist there are. It great. Hope the series never gets too popular. Just enough to keep it a float
I think it's bugged somehow, all achievements had 20%+ rate in the first minutes the game unlocked on steam.
this game is also super easy to break over your knee.
In a stream I saw, they got the ULTIMATE WEAPON for Claude after like the armory content
So, are Tri-Ace artist just really fucking bad at developing 3d model that they get those uncanny valley dollface, or is that by design?
I think I'd be more into the newer SO if they just do cell-shaded model like they do on the new Guilty Gear
It wouldn't be so bad if the animation wasn't motion capture or whatever the hell they're doing. It makes the statics moeblob faces really stand out with the juxtaposition
I unironically think SO3 is the best looking 3D Star Ocean game
"Unironically", your tastes are shit.
5 had better models than 6. Genuinely dont know what happened. Maybe lost some key people?
they keep trying to make anime characters in 3D and then leave them with basic bitch realistic shaders. the characters would look uncanny as is but trying to keep them totally normal 3D utterly fucks it up and makes everyone look like Chucky's retarded japanese cousins
The gacha models are pretty. IDK what their problem is.
>do cell-shaded model like they do on the new Guilty Gear
Do you mean just the models or the animation style?
Either way that shits really fucking expensive, which is why it only really works for the fighting game stuff.
A whole game like that wouldn't even be made on Square's top budget, let alone a remake or remaster.
most people generally think Guilty Gear is just cel-shading and don't actually get the animation effort behind making that cel-shading look good, but even with just straightforward cel-shading it would be a nigh-universal improvement for SO at least
I mean P5 shows that cel-shading can be done on AA level budget, I just don't want to see dollface because that shit gives me nightmare
>find out they remastered my favorite RPG i ever played for 500 hour
>find out they botched it
Just gonna keep playing my original ps1 disk
Retard.
It's literally the best version of the game you moron.
No.tiff
I’d only say it’s botched if you’re an Ashton fan, they did him so dirty
I raised the difficulty to universe because I was getting too busted. It’s super easy to overlevel by accident with scouting because of chain battles.
Zoom in on bottom left girl's crotch.
Actually looks like labia.
yeah I'm thinking kino
How do you make an 11/10 character design like hers and fuck the game up that bad
Space Elf pussy got me acting unwise.
Why does anamnesis have an original Nedian character that doesn't have pointy ears?
How do you think it differs from normal pussy?
Tighter. More ridges.
Anon. Pls for your health. Stop thinking of SEP
It doesn't. But it does make a roasties mad whenever they aren't getting dick. Ergo, space elf pussy.
>malding over fictional characters
I always imagined it smelled fresh like a forest brook. They have gene editing so why wouldn't it?
>easily murder first 3 Wise Men
>random enemies are now all green
>get absolutely mogged in the first tower fight
So do I just grind in the arena?
>first thing I do in lacour is sell 6 different books
>finish tournament
>grab 110000 fol
Welp guess it's unhinged item creation from now on
>the two wise men at once with the explosion move btfo out of me multiple times as a kid
>final boss literally raped my ass many times
>9th wise men is a pushover I killed first try
What's up with that? Why did that guy suck?
Am I going to fuck myself over if I wing the IC stuff and these upgrades? I kinda get it but also don't
No you can play it normally. You can ignore skills and IC but they're fun to mess with
fuit+veggies and Fruit+meat is all you need to get away with theft and bank fraud
I'm playing it for the first time on the hardest difficulty and I recommend you don't worry about it too much besides putting points into the IC that lowers the cost of all of the others. If you want my bare bones recommendation, have someone work on Penmanship to write skill books down the line, Effort and Resilience let you get more EXP and SP/BP, Customization is good on everyone to craft better weapons for them, and Alchemy/Replication are useful for someone to have.
Actually you know what, give everyone 1 skill level in everything just to unlock all of the actions, then go over them and focus on leveling whichever interest you most, the level cap is 255 so just play with it
Why did Square Enix make an HD2D of this game? Why not Chrono Trigger or Xenogears? I do like Star Ocean but this is a weird choice
When it comes to old series across any Japanese company, whether or not they get attention comes down to whether or not someone with decent pull in management champions them.
I wonder if they have the similar model that anime production supposedly has where the big wigs mandate that many small projects also get funded to the minimum degree even at the detriment of the big titles because they are so risk averse. There's no way SO has stayed alive so long otherwise unless you're also right and someone high up just fucking loves SO.
The risk of screwing up CT is much larger than SO. If this sucked people would have just forgotten about it. A shitty CT release would be a blunder and people would never shut up about it
SE didn't make it and it's not 2DHD.
do SE even have right to Xenogears? I thought when Monolith left they put the right to the game in limbo
Yes, they do. And besides having XG characters in brave exvius and xenogears as a secret boss in woff, they even released a new weltall ID figure recently.
Ah, I might've been thinking about Parasite Eve then
They also still have the Einhander team around, put the Astrea in WoFF, and had said team work on the Gummi Ship sections for KH3 complete with throwing the Schwarzgeist or whatever its name was in with Einhander music and a remix for the bonus boss occasion. There's a lot of these things SE is just sitting around on and have done nothing with because AI cloud farms and crypto projects eating up billions of yen was a higher priority.
Nips don't like CT
A few months back they put out an interview about CC Radical Dreamers edition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNcJyNaUT3o
At one point it goes into why they decided to make it, but also on top of that at one point Mitsuda mentions that he was surprised to get called in to work on music for a CC remaster before an XG remaster. He thought the order would be the other way around.
just another reason for me to hate on CC then.
Still, I don't think I want an XG remaster if they just leave the 2nd disc as is
btw, the primary reason they mentioned was that they didn't like that it was stuck on a defunct console and couldn't be played anywhere else. Since that's also true for Xenogears, well.
Well I sure fucking hope that a XG remaster doesn't end up completely butchered like CC did.
aren't remasters always botched (and occasionally fixed), whereas the remake have a pretty good batting average (I think the one bad one was sword of mana?)
Note: pixel remaster is a remake
>Note: pixel remaster is a remake
Those were also botched though
I’d imagine Square Enix would want to work with Takahashi if they wanted to trult do a remake of xenogears. Hopefully SMRPG does well then maybe nintendo would allow monolith to work on it
Today's the day, anons.
Today's the day I will get off Krosse continent, after having the game since last thursday
Alright, what's the gimmick here? Is opening one of these chests going to stop me from getting the Zodiac Spear?
it's all shit items
> shitty CT release would be a blunder and people would never shut up about it
wasn't the IOS release pretty shitty
none of you are brave enough to set up a Star Ocean EX cytube
Do you need a 4090 to emulate this at 60? Any good results with mid-range?
look at how cute my wife rena is in her sprite art
there wont be another comfy kino jrpg release like this in a long time bros....
See you 10 years from now when this gets a new version again for its anniversary.....
Shouldn't you upgrade the "half exp needed to level up" only way later because early on is kind of a waste? Of course, with post game power leveling strategies it's pointless but it's useful midgame
effort is ultimately worthless, for up to 100 you can just forged medal them, and at post 100 you can still get multiple level with train and enemy chaining
i just level it to get Train up
I just dupe the EXP cards so I don't care about it.
You will play his game.
So did Rena's pantyshot get shoah'd in the localization?
Asking for a friend.
All 5 or 6 pixels of it? Still intact for your viewing pleasure if you happen to cause an avalanche.
I liked Tales of Symphonia, will this scratch the same itch?
I'm in the same boat as you, anon. I'm giving it a shot. Seems like it might be good fun based on like the hour I've played of it. apparently it has autistic shit in it you can do.
>Let some interns create generic 3d environments
>Put zero effort pixel dreck character models in it
>Retarded weebs lap it up
The fuck is RoboCop doing in this game?
it's ROBERT cop
>How many lives have you taken?
>Less than a BILLION, dickhead.
Claude wasn't having any of his shit
>Noooooo you can't get mad because you've also killed monsters!
Why does this guy look cooler than anyone in my party
how come my lv10 body guards didn't protect me from the pickpocketing kid
>Opera's portrait's third eye's blinking animation
Wasn't ready for that guys
What a stoic gigachad.
Damn...
>Your dad saved an entire planet and stopped a bioweapon from spreading across the universe.
>You're an ensign on his ship.
Imagine all the shit you catch from the rest of the crew. Living in that man's shadow must have been brutal
"I know how to scan an alien artifact dad, geeze!"
Can't even blame him.
Doesnt he get his entire fleet unceremoniously yeeted by the big bad or was I dreaming that?
just his own flagship, but yeah
I still can't get over that this is a 38 year old
37
He's my age but I don't look that old....
>anon is not a steampunk daddy
Get your ass in gear
fucking Midas is 37 lmao
They can reasonably pass for being in their 30s though. For Steampunk Pimp, remember that he's from a planet where white hair is a normal thing. Lettuce has granny hair, and shes still practically a teenager.
I like how the Japanese make people in their 30s look like people in their mid 50s. Even my father looks younger than this. Do they know that diet and protein quality has gotten better over the years. Aside from fucking micro-plastics polluting everything now.
I will not use Bloody Armor.
I've used the bloody armor for raid bosses but I'm going to try and beat the other content without using them. I'm already strong enough to go through most of the universe content as is.
this portrait yells 'dead mom' and I don't like it
Its ok she was just a collection of pixels and polygons. Welch can ask the admins to put her back in the game if she wanted
I hate SO3 so much its unreal
This would be the same as a player asking Blizzard to bring back a random villager that dies in Cata. Blizzard wouldn't give a shit.
Considering Welch is in every SO game now, wouldn't she be a whale? Whales get their requests heard more often than some random schlub
Where do you get Claude and Lena's secret postgame weapons? I only have 1 raid boss left and neither of them have a super weapon yet.
>lena
who the fuck is lena
Japanese pronunciation of Rena?
Nip pronunciation sounds closer to L than R.
>From the unlocked group fight iirc
At the fun city arena? I did all but the last 3 that weren't available yet.
I know Claude's definitely from the group fight in fun city that is unlocked after CoT. Forgot where I got Rena's I remember having it before CoT, might be that missing raid boss then
From the unlocked group fight iirc
Claude's unlock after defeating Gabriel Celeste in MoT I think
i have defeated the beyblade
also how do i stop dying in one hit
>Resurrection Mist gets used on all party members instead of only one
The fuck?
it's one of those tactics things. I use that one too
>Opera AND Precis
bricked
i think you're more bricked if you recruit the worst character in the game to get the worst precis move in the game
Ashton is a swordie, even if his moves are mostly kinda shit, he gets a fat stat stick. At the very least you get the privilege of having Precis (forma perfecta) if you have her in the same team with Ashton and Welch. Unlike in the past, Welch is a real shit slapper in the remake, so that's two great characters and one meh (but cool) one.
Ideal companion break up for Rena and Claud playthroughs is something like:
>Claude
Celine
Opera
Ernest
Bowman
Leon
Chisato
>Rena
Celine
Ashton
Precis
Welch
Dias
Noel (or Chisato, I won't blame you)
I'm playing this for the first time as Claude.
What's good party members to go for for a first time?
Please respond to this post.
Party size is 8, Claude and Rena mandatory so you can choose 6.
I can go into a long winded explanation as to why but just take Celine, Opera, Ernest, Leon, Bowman, Chisato. If you play New game + as Rena take the opposite characters
why chisat
She's strong as fuck and goofy/cool
anybody but ashton, they did my boy dirty in this remake
It’s annoying, the damage on swords dance and dragon breath is still there, when they actually connect it’s great, why the fuck doesn’t anything stagger
Whoever you feel looks the coolest. Even on the hardest difficulty you can beat the game with pretty much any party at this point long as you experiment with the item crafting.
Celine, Opera, Ernest, Leon, Bowman, Welch
For me it's Celine, Ashton, Precis, Welch, Leon, and Chisato for Claude. Rena gets the others in the second playthrough. I put Celine in both playthroughs because I like hot witches.
This is what I did for Claude. Though I'm going to drop Celine so I can take both Noel and Chisato in my Rena run. Chisato is just that much of a big requirement for me.
>Casually calls an air strike on you
Heh, nothing personel, kid.
I wouldn't want to mess with Chisato.
I would like to pull her ears
>Renders Edgy Walmart Sephiroth speechless and neutered
Space Elf pussy too stronk
One of the coolest concepts for a skill and her sprite has the cutest animations when doing it, but god damn is Missile Strike one of the most useless skills in the game.
Anyone know where fish number 24 is?
Post game dungeon. Final boss (floor 13) room.
Ah, that's why I haven't seen it. Thanks.
how do you see romance levels? I only see friendship
No one on this board will beat iseria queen/super gabe on universe difficulty without bloody armor.
>solo them with Chisato
skill issue
what's the strat when they start beyblading?
sit in a corner and spam 100000 volt
I have. And I additionally did all the arenas without bloody armor.
Holy shit I watched some footage this is the ugliest 2DHD game I've seen yet. They are usually not great but this one is fucking disgusting. I was looking forward to trying this since its been so long since I did the og but this is complete eye destruction.
instead of typing the same comment out over and over again every thread, you should go chug some bleach
Based Noel turned Celine into a trad wife living in a fucking forest
Holy shit I watched some footage this is the greatest 2DHD game I've seen yet. They are usually great but this one is fucking amazing. I was looking forward to trying this since its been so long since I did the og but this is complete eye candy.
>have almost the best gear in the game
>still die from 1 shots sometimes
what am i doing so wrong? is there a mechanic i dont know about?
Have you tried getting good?
watch me hit 99999 damage with this one simple trick
>and still the team died
>I'm a geniu- OH NO
The moment Rena ran off with her childhood friend was where her chance ended. She's getting Ernest
the ending they get is arguably one of the better ones. Humanity scores big getting Precis to study on Earth.
how do I minimize AI retardation
That's the neat thing
You can't
that's why I said minimize
Set their combo links properly.
It doesn't work for spells however.
Rena will always cast useless shit without command no matter what.
stupid low IQ space elf
I swear her AI is dumber than the original. I think part of it is that the fights are shorter, so those mid spells feel like even bigger wastes of time.
Needs correction. Long overdue.
It's equal levels of dumb. She'll sit in the middle of the arena chain casting revive and cure condition if you let her. Mist still needs to be instantly disabled or she'll attempt to cast it.
>Bought Zestiria
>Bought Berseria
>Bought Arise
>Finished Zestiria and all of it's end game
>100% Berseria
>Quit Arise inside the final dungeon
Zestiria was unironically in every way possible one of the worst JRPGs I had the pleasure of playing on that generation and quite literally singlehandedly ended a rule I had that I developed back when my best friend installed ZSNES on my computer about finishing any game I started.
After that 100% I was scarred for life. So now if I'm a even moderately dissatisfied I'll drop that shit.
>Zestiria was unironically in every way possible one of the worst JRPGs I had the pleasure of playing on that generation
I would easily put Zestiria on my list of "Top 3 WORST PS4 RPGs I have played" list
turn off their shit spells for spellcasters and as the other anon said put decent skill links for martials
then basically pick the all out option so they spam their stuff, you'll probably need to be lategame so you have enough of an MP pool/drain to do that effectively, but it doesn't matter that much before
next thing I was gonna ask is how do I not have my AIs run out of mp
put in crit superboost or mp drain factor
so item aug?
More or less, though you can also not chain battles, it feels like they either gave more stam or change the way it works since you recover a shitton more than I remember when you finish batlle
Bros, is there any point in going over 9999 attack?.
Does the game counts it when skill damage limit break procs?
I don't think it matters after 9999, I checked if the stats would get affected by Training stat down and it treats it as if you still have 9999 even if you have more than that
I decided to check 4 out since I never played it.
It's pretty gud so far..
Great gameplay. Might be my favorite SO battle system, but plot and characters are pretty rough. Sometimes it goes into so bad it's good though.
Looking a bit tanned there Claude
it has the best Welch
What is up with her chin?
but that's not 6?
I like it most when she's wearing her glasses. She looks like a turbo stacy.
That thing looks horrifying
now you made her angy
Star Ocean 4 is really just guilty of being a very tropey anime game at a very specific time in history.
The most common complaint you'll hear is that it has two e-boi party members: one uguu moeblob and one slutty e-boicon bait, and along with some other things at the time like the "Dinner Dance" from Infinite Undiscovery, western media latched onto it and shoved into western normalfags faces full force as part of a psy op to damage Japanese domination in the industry so that the west could overtake them.
Lymle and Meracle are actually both adorable, but as we've all established, westerners have no taste.
Lymle is not adorable, you're fucking crazy. She's like a proto-Lalafell from FF, except even worse visually. She looks like an abomination and everything she says sounds retarded.
>a proto-Lalafell
isn't that just a tarutaru
she's fine if you avoid listening to the naruto voice they gave her in english turning every sentence ending nanoyo into "'kay?" like dattebayo got turned into "believe it!"
meracle is a miracle
60% of the fun I got from that game was just blindsiding everything with meracle
I don't know how other people made blindside work. Fuck me this shit is slow as hell to start up, and I don't want to have to stand still for a second holding square until it's charged. I hate that it can uncharge too if you hold it too long. It's so clunky.
I just think the graphics in SO4 make most characters look like uncanny abominations, like what the fuck is wrong with Welch
Lymle is a walking onahole. Glad we agree.
Yeah, no. SO4's presentation is fucked thanks to the hideous character models combined with the awkward animation. I wouldn't give a fuck about the PAs if the presentation was as simple as in 2, but everything about 4's bad presentation results in all of the even remotely awkward PAs becoming significantly harder to watch. The forced dub in the original western release sure as fuck didn't help either, nor did giving Lymle that 'kay speech quirk.
Character interaction is really fun. They feel like a bunch of friends going on an adventure.
Are the rings that increase Bodyguard activation rate supposed to go on your leader or the other party members?
>Claude marries Precis
>Universe massively improves from a super genius giving unlimited access to information
>Claude marries Opera
>becomes triclops royalty
>Claude marries Rena
>gets an elf teen pregnant
>becomes triclops royalty
More importantly
>saves ernest from having a stalker
What matters is the love, not the status. And Rena is for loving.
>gets an elf teen pregnant and will stay teen until your passing for your descendants to inherit
Worth it.
I can't decide on a jrpg. I will get to them all but which first
So2
Xeno chronicles
Live a live
Tales of arise
I love live a live, but you will not get your JRPG fix from it
and not tales of arise
delete arise from the list and save yourself money, bandwidth, hard drive space, and time
I thought Arise was alright.
Like all modern tales games its a blatantly unfinished shell of a game.
Actually really similar to modern Star Ocean games sadly.
it isn't. it falls off after you get the full party, realize the battle system in the game will never get better or open up more, and the game has the audacity to script the final boss such that you can't lose taking away the fun of a challenging end game boss that the series always had.
the only good thing about arise is the soundtrack.
everything else is an absolute disappointment that only lowers your opinion further and further after "defeating" the 5th lord.
also a travesty that the only skits in the game that show the characters having any sort of party chemistry are the hot springs ones and a couple of the owl sanctuary ones.
I got bored 4 hours in, and I paid full price
>and the game has the audacity to script the final boss such that you can't lose taking away the fun of a challenging end game boss that the series always had.
except you had a proper final boss battle before that.
It's like shitting on the Yu Yevon battle in FFX when the proper final boss is Braska's Final Aeon
have you not heard of the term Victory Lap?
yeah and that boss was shit too. had absolutely no challenge to it unlike jecht.
making old naked molerat scripted is the most pathetic attempt at delivering any sort of climax for that trainwreck of a game when the bastard just kills himself anyway and cucks you out of truly defeating him.
but hey if you wanna defend that absolute piece of shit of a tales game go ahead.
It had its issue, but I still had fun with it. ToZ almost made me give up on the entire series and I skipped Beseria due to it.
ToZ left me very fucking bitter.
from what I understand you're not missing much of berseria other than the characters.
Arise solid.
Not great but I would recommend it over Zesteria
ToZ is unironically one of the worst RPGs I've ever played
XBC games are like fucking 50-200 hours long depending on how hard you want to go with completion and there's 3 of them plus a spinoff (X).
That being said I enjoy every single one of them but you'll be stuck in for a long time if you stick with it.
SO2 would be a good one off I'd say if you need something that won't take over your life for a few months.
If you do decide to go Xenoblade, I suggest DE for 1,
Some people say start with the Wii one but DE unironically is the better version in every respect, and this is coming from someone who played the Wii version, the fucking 3DS port, and DE.
Just understand that the Blade sereis has Psuedo MMO combat. with cooldowns and auto-attack.
Yeah I got XBC DE - 3 for ryujinx. I started 2 a long while back on switch but the framerate and resolution turned me off
Yeah well that's a xeno game on its native hardware for you.
Again I'd suggest starting with 1 though. It's pretty imperative to start with if you're gonna go down the line.
I played all of them, liked the first 3
I'd recommend SO2 while these threads are still active
Honestly listen to
and
And if you're looking for a Tales game to play then play Vesperia or Symphonia.
Live a Live then SO2. If you want to play an Xenoblade games just play 1 and maybe X. Ignore the rest and ignore Trails games.
NAPPY TIME?
Can anyone besides Celine end up with a side character?
Is there a Rena Yoole ending? I don't think there is but that's the only one I can think that might.
They all can although they're not all romantic endings
I think he means NPCs like how Celine can marry the Prince of Krosse.
I meant minor side characters not the party members.
Celine can end up with the prince whatever his name if you play her PAs right.
>See Welch force Ashton to publicly humiliate herself for her own amusement.
>Make him do it again.
Ashton can get an ending with the sick kid in the Harley on Rena's story.
Never seen it myself so I dunno the requirements. Bowman can also cure her but I don't know if it's ending or not, also remember being told it was chance based in the original but I dunno if that's true or not.
Anyway I THINK once you cure her you no longer get Ashton's solo ending. So if he's not paired with anybody, you'll get an ending where he visits her.
I confused the sick kid with the little girl that keeps trying to get herself raped for a second.
>you can actually cure that sick girl
Guess, that's what i deserve for ignoring Ashton.
I didn't need bowman to cure her. You get a sidequest after a PA where she gets worse, and you take Ashton to the mountain where the giant bird is to get a cure for her disease.
Will we ever get playable Puffy? She's better than Welch.
>so fat she has her own gravitational field that keeps a shower curtain floating around her
Rena is a low bar for this supposed "Space Elf Pussy" where is the Grade A space elf pussy?
she's perfect
>womb tat
conflicting
Rena is literally what I want. she's grade A in my heart.
>restore hymen
What's the context?
Leon confides in his big brother that he likes all the girls and you can get one of the girls to come talk to him. Most of them let him down gently without him realizing it but Rena just spaghettis all over the fucking place
she looks like shes in actual fucking pain.
So what if Leon is Rena's party member with the most affection?
Rena has oneitis for Claude even if she sometimes does the opposite in game.
her vagina is coded for male humans.
Chisato and Rena show no interest in Noel at all.
Space Elves desire Non-Space Elf dick.
Can Noel end up with anyone?
only aryan gigachad DNA is good enough for SEP
Chisato is just coping with second best.
Looking at Claude father, he has top tier genes. If i had ovaries i would probably do the same as Rena.
to be fair he's also got a hot mom that punches the shit out of hostile aliens as a past time
This one
That's a hag anon, she's canonically not a virgin and is used goods.
Grade A meat though
Can you do NG+ and keep your stats when you use the other character?
All the characters stats carry over. Party members included.
>Buy 8 tri-emblems so I can mass produce remaking them
>HP, MP, HIT, Coercion, Gathering Stars, Repose, or that one that slightly increases break output
>Haven't seen anything else after 10 attempts
Do some accessories just have complete shit factor pools to offset their base stats?
Literally built for sexual education with the whole party
why does he have cat ears
because it's cute. I always thought he was smart because he was actually an alien, but he's canonically just a freak and the ears are a rare Expel trait like being albino or something.
that's the stupidest, most star ocean thing I've ever heard
He's a mutie. And it's cute.
Imagine pulling on his ears while he sucks you off
Recessive gene.
Expellians have fucked Fellpools in the past, and so every now and then, mutant cat people spawn in every few generations.
I think it's a neat established lore bit that in the future of their universe, Expellians have to show a full DNA certificate on marriage just to check if they'll give birth to a mutant spawn since the Expellian gene pool is such a clusterfuck. And yes, Nedian genes have been added to their stock. Chisato and Noel got busy it seems.
how? aren't they separate, non-space-faring planets?
SO is weird like that. Time travel and random warps are a thing the series just drops into the story randomly. Some Fellpool probably walked into one of them and ended up in Expel.
>so7 comes out in the middle of 2028's edgy resurgence
>mc: "Fuck the UP3"
Reminder that Edge and Reimi are actually modified superhumans that got Muah DNA shoved into their bodies. The same race that Mavelle from SO1 was from.
Various races popping up in other planets is just a thing that happens in SO.
That makes sense though
Yes, and the reason why Muah people appear in SO1 was because
>And then they got caught in a space-time portal
And don't even get me started on the weird bullshit surrounding Meracle. Point is, people in SO just pop out willy nilly across the universe on a whim.
LUTHERRRRR
Iirc meracle was kidnapped by space pirates like a cow in roak and crashed on earth by chance.
It's just fanservice for people who played 1
He just walked her home gently.
I did a bunch of those. It seems. I'd forgotten how gushy some of those were.
playing the game for the first time, skill system is a bit overwhelming. What's the strat for exploiting it, crafting stuff at a profit to sell for money to write skill books? I wanna play on universe but enemies keep one shotting me and my party, I can do fights solo it's just kinda rough if there's loads of enemies on the field, especially spellcasters. Is crafting armor the only way to ensure I have enough defense to not explode immediately?
do
and then just dick around from there
fuck denuvo
Come to think of it, War Cry would totally break the arena gauntlet battle.
Huh. You might be right
By 50 you'd be at 250% on all stats
So what? You'd really only need to be at like 2k attack and 1k defense to scale gracefully into the final fights.
Probably be able to do that even before going to the cave.
I actually went on a huge binge rewatch of the OG Iron Chef last month (Sakai is my NIGGA) so this part and moreso the one in Suikoden are my absolute favorite
>tfw suck at rythm games
Good thing that Yarma fight isn't difficult.
>Trying to get CRT Super Boost on armor for everyone
I probably shouldn't be trying this. It counts as a support factor right? If I've been trying to get it from the wrong pool I'm going to kill myself
Yeah super boost is Support
You've made your masterwork fodders right?
ive been playing the divine force and i got to the point where you beat the 3 horned baddies and the king, then they just scaped jumping out of the tcamera.
does this shit gets better?
keep the kenny bloodline pure
>finished demo
>no cracked version
>pay day not until 15th
FUCK