Play Trails of Cold Steel
Play Trails of Cold Steel
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Play Trails of Cold Steel
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I will. After Azure. I just beat CS2.
Azure is the best in the series, enjoy. No I'm not a drama fag or an elitist I like all the games (except CS1)
Prove me wrong, you wont.
>dude what if we split a game into two
>but like dude, let's make the seuquel 90% filler that doesn't solves the plot
>yo bro, let's do that but twice
one man's filler is another man's content. technically, it doesn't advance the plot forward but you get to interact with characters you like.
3>1>2>4 because nuclass 7 is better
3 rand like shit for me despite all the other games being totally fine. Also Nu7 don't have as much internal friction as the old team had in their first year. I still liked it but it was a rough start to the second half of the saga.
I really liked Dana, how do the other YS games compare to it?
IX is the most similar but the environment is mostly a drab grey city / prison instead of the tropical environments in VIII. If that doesn’t bother you, every other aspect is pretty good compared to VIII.
Hm, a lot of the appeal was the comfy island exploration and the music. Also Dana's pits.
Guess I'll wait on a sale and grab it sometime.
Don't do it, it's honestly terrible. it's like 8 if they sucked all the heart and soul out of it. The story isn't good, the characters aren't good, the world SUCKS to explore. Combat is good but it's just 8's combat with a few added bells and whistles. I'd wait to see if 10 is good.
Ys before 7 was a very different beast. They're generally like a more action-focused Zelda with light RPG mechanics, and you can beat each of them in one sitting if you know what you're doing. The combat is always simple, but more engaging than the character-swapping games. I think they're all great, my favorites being Chronicles 1 and Dawn of Ys.
If one is the best three has to axiomatically be good as it's a MGS2 recreation of 1 because of
>muh cycles, muh curse
>Actually good tier
1 and 2
>CringeKino with an extra helping of cringe tier
>please kill me this is genuinely embarrassing tier
This has to be bait.
What on earth are you talking about?
C2 is the best one because it's literally the only one that feels like things are happening. Stupid dumb things that don't feel like they have consequence but at least the party has a mission rather than just bumble fucking around doing even more retarded errands.
>One side of the civil war are literally evil racists doing a coup
>We have to be a neutral party
>Proceeds to spend the entire game exclusivly fighting the racists doing a coup
Lol, lmao. Not to mention rean screaming, crying, falling to his knees, shitting his pants and cumming every time he finds a member of class 7 despite only ebing gone A MONTH during which time he was asleep.
i honestly have to ignore the time frames of trails. it's the one thing that is horribly done.
I mean, at least try to be credible. The only "evil racists doing a coup" in Trails are in Kuro
1 > 4 > 2 > 3
3 is a fucking abomination with some of the most insulting chapter endings I've ever seen. nu class 7 are way better than OG class 7 but CS3 just has too many problems for it to work out. 4 is much better and anyone who says otherwise never played it. Don't care about your arguments or rebuttals, it's a fact. Nobody who has actually played 4 thinks it's worse than 3.
I honestly don't understand how you can have FOUR games and still barely develop half your cast.
I think it boils down to two things.
>Writing characters with a simple premise and not taking much consideration into how they're going to fit in the overarching story.
>Having too many ideas and not enough time to combine them all into a cohesive narrative.
These days, Falcom craps out a new Trails game like every one to two years. It's not like back during Sky's development period where the staff essentially took five years to finish the original Sky duology, which were developed a single game from the get-go.
I really think Cold Steel's setting works against it. You have too much of your cast either locked in one place or punted off on side field trips (Which we never get to see but were probably way more exciting) but there's never a sense of real progression because the game wants you to be high schoolers too so there's always kind of a feeling of security. The Crossbell games were kind of the same way but I think it worked there better in part because your main party was smaller by about half so the characters weren't fighting for screen time so even if they weren't super developed they at least felt present. More to point, because they were older (if only slightly because LOL ANIME) and you know, cops, they were actually more proactive in how they were handling conflict. In cold steel 1 it's like you just sort of kept Scooby Dooing your way into major plot situations one after another but then your teachers would be all "Nah, man forget about it and go learn math or some shit."
I feel like there's a reason so many RPGs don't really have you in one location for too long and have a more sense of forward moment. It's because it allows characters to come and go as needed rather than just sit in the closet and never be used.
Crossbell was the most kino arc
>I honestly don't understand how you can have FOUR games and still barely develop half your cast.
it's quite simple anon, there are too many fucking main characters to properly develop all of them.
OG class 7 didn't really get much development but I think they handled nu-class 7 pretty well.
3 was so bad I just dropped the series altogether
Cold Steel 3 is the worst one.
>What was that?
>Instructor Rean! quick, this way!
>are those... [placeholder]!?
*Rean pulls sword out of thin air*
>Class Seven, our duty is to stop [placeholder]
>wew, they're unconscious for now, lets move!
>Reans students yell: RIGHT!!!!
*make it to destination*
>It's it's [characters name]... No it's [Characters Title]!
>Well if it isn't Class Seven!
>What are you doing here!?
>We're here for a special mission of sorts. Information I can't share with you.
>Well we'll just beat it out of you!
>CLASS SEVEN, MOVE OUT!
INFORMATION: REMOVE 40% OF ENEMIES HEALTH
*Rean kneeling and panting with his students*
>No... They're too strong... I'm going to have to use... THAT.
>No Instructor Rean you can't!
>Wait... is that..! [Old Class Seven name placeholder]!!!!!!
*is able to drive back the enemy like it was nothing, the same enemy Rean and kids couldn't stop*
>Well that's enough fun for today
>WAIT! WHAT IS OUROBOROS AFTER!?
>Haha... wouldn't you like to know.
Kek I'm midway through trails in the sky SC, is this how falcom handles every single interaction even in cold steel games? It's basically every chapter so far in SC
There's a reason why people say cold steel is just a reskinned sky. Even crossbell is the same way.
Every complaint that people have on crossbell and cold steel all goes back to the sky trilogy.
I didn't know Falcom's writers posted here.
I need to believe the character title thing that started in 3 is some kind of translation issue.
The characters sitting around autistically listing the title of everyone present for 5 minutes on both sides made my brain melt.
>Heh you're pretty good you made me use 5% of my power let's get serious
>No the students
>[voice]: Oh no you don't!
>Signature attack form off screen
>Orobours member/ Ironblood dodges it
>Is that? Its...
>Returning character swoops in
>Kept you waiting huh
Is peak shonen cringekino and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
So shitty interactions aside is the story at least good if I ignore the Haremshit and the Scooby Doo interactions?
CS3 is full of big nothingburger interactions. All the Haremshit is a meme, Rean can only choose one girl to hook up with much like the Persona games.
Are people nostalgia fagg or something? Cold steel 1 was its lowest entry on a technical level to a so so story with bland characters and nothing as stakes. Just at the end was really something.
Cold Steel 1 is just Sky FC but way better paced and actually doing a good job of teasing the important shit to the player to keep them intrigued on what's to come instead of forgetting about it for the entire playtime until dumping everything on the player in the last act. Also Thor's was a comfy hub and I enjoyed going back to it after every chapter.
It's honestly kind of hard to rank 1. Because you're not wrong but a lot of the major problems with the series weren't really evident till later. When you played 1 the problems were there but you're kind of left thinking things will improve and can forgive 1 as being the entry point that needed to set things up. You can't really blame the first game because the later ones never made use of the stuff it put on the board without the benefit of hindsight.
It's the last entry to feature blood or people definitively dying on screen.
It sets up how and why erebonia operates the way it does with sensible consistent political storytelling, not thought memes.
It's the first and last game to feature rean having character traits flaws or anything approaching development.
>Doth thou desire the power?
>It's the last entry to feature blood or people definitively dying on screen.
? That couldn't be further from the truth. CS4 has the highest body count of any Kiseki game ever in terms of named character deaths.
Kuro 2 has the mc being impaled multiple times. Discuss.
>IF THEE AND I ARE OF ONE ACCORD A COVENANT CAN BE MADE
>ONE HAS BUT TO CALL OUT MY NAME
I came. Valamar is the most based character in cold steel.
I've only played 1, but it had a lot of flaws
I've heard it gets better, but:
>teasing problems with zero conflict until the end
>Blood and Iron [Redacted]
>Rean is flawless
>far too much hinting with no resolution
It's mindblowing how the cat didn't know who the radio hostess was
>It's mindblowing how the cat didn't know who the radio hostess was
why do people like cs1? it's by far the most boring game in the entire series
cs2 might be retarded but at least it feels like things happen in it
4 > 3 > 1 > 2
I'm more of a Ys enjoyer
I don't care about all these 1000 hours of exposition and lore dumps
>STR vs DEX.webm
>5'11 vs 6'0.webm
Sorry, but I'm not autistic enough.
does it have breast physics?
>immediately get thrown into a "school kids save the day"
yeah no thanks.
No, how about YOU play Trails Before Dawn
Cute desert girl
You mean trails of white people bad?
No Rean no play.
I still can't believe that 4chan killed Towa.
>Four games about the inherent issues of a strictly defined class system that directly enables and benefits from a system of hereditary privilege (I'm using that in the historic sense don't get triggered) and how that manifests in people's lives and their political system.
>Race mentioned even once
Lol, lmao even. Just admit you're a racist and any discussion about race anywhere by anyone triggers you because you hate brown people and women.
>4 games of nobility
>The nobility are still there and acquit them pretty well by CS4
>one game of Kuro
>WHITE PEOPLE BADDDDDDDDDDD
Why do you have to lie, pretending that "race is mentioned once" in Kuro when the major plot is literally white supremacists and the racist mafia they funded?
Your post disproves you gay
>I posted it being said once
>so it was never said again
Armata doesn't give a crud about race.
So why did they nuke Creil? And explain
Not even female rean true mary sue who will get a pass because she is female or literal strip clubs will get me to play that shit.
Eastern zemuria fucking when?
Just end the whole damn saga. I'm sick of Ouroborus. I'm sick of everything being endless hints of things that never come. I want to end the damn trip already.
I will now play your game.
Hell, I figured this wasn't coming to NA until 2024-2025, does it have an English patch or something?
Yep, it's easy to find with a quick google search.
I'm in the middle of Cold Steel 4 and I have absolute zero investment in the story. It's like a horrible light novel that should have ended years ago but they've dragged it on for an extra decade.
These games seem like they have shit harem writing compared to the OG trails in the sky
Shoujo romance writing is not inherently better than shonen harem writing.
It is actually, shoujo romances tend to be a small step above Shounen Haremshit since a staple of Haremshit writing is there usually never being a canonical main girl
Shoujo romance does not have a canon romance interest, only a canon rapist.
Which reveals the true nature of women, and it's based
Estelle is literally "I can fix him" as well
I am currently playing at the proper and true beginning of the kiseki series, Trails in the Sky FC!
When the fuck is this coming to switch, what the fuck
pS4 and Switch release when??
You will NEVER see a Western release of Sky, Cold Steel 1-2, and older Ys games because of the situation between Xseed and NISA. CS 1/2 are already on Switch in JP.
No. I hate japan
>The only two confirmed lesbians are sex predators
Sure thing buddy.
I've only ever played the original ones on PSP, I liked the first one but two and 3 were very boring, I didn't like how much they changed the combat. How are the more modern games? They're pretty fuckin expensive still despite having assfuckloads of dlc.
The "DLC" for the Cold Steel games is just fluff like accessories and costumes, there's zero gameplay relevance there. It's not like there's a DLC story expansion or whatever, you can ignore all of it.
Regardless, the fact it exists and they're still charging near full price for it even on sale kills my interest.
When CS4 is sub $30
I love chest messages! They better have put them into Azure.
Fuck you moron, XSEED chest messages were good, NISA/Geofront are cancer.
SC's messages repeated too much, and 3rd were cancer
>dude what if we just dumped a couple short stories in and split them between text messages so they're unintelligible
Zero is the best these messages have ever been.
I'm gonna play Tokyo Xanadu instead
Asuka bros... where is our sequel?
I really would like one. Seriously I'm interested in Ys X but I will take literally anything from Falcom that isn't another fucking Trails game at this point. Enough has been enough.
But TX is just a Cold Steel asset flip with a half-written plot.
And Cold Steel is the flag ship series that had four games and still feels half written.
I honestly enjoyed it more than the last few trails games because it was at least different and a complete story even if the story itself was fucking terrible.
It was dumb as hell but it was more in that almost early to mid 2000s anime kind of way. Completely idiotic but I can dig it. It didn't try to pretend like it was some massive sweeping epic.
>Seriously I'm interested in Ys X but I will take literally anything from Falcom that isn't another fucking Trails game at this point
>kuro 1 2021
>kuro 2 2022
falcom was pretty retarded for releasing a new kiseki game for 3 years straight, even japan has gotten burnt out because the kuro games are flopping hard.
>>kuro 1 2021
>>kuro 2 2022
The Kuro games are flopping hard because they're absolute garbage. People who hate CS are doing the sunk cost fallacy thing and praising Kuro despite that.
Nintendo needs to buy Falcom so we can have a Trails, Pokémon and Fire Emblem cross over dating sim
>Nintendo needs to buy Falcom
fuck no, the games wouldn't come to pc anymore
That's just too low of a bar for me. Having the Xanadu brand tainted with a stupid dollar store ARPG Persona isn't worth it.
Are the xanadu next games good?
It's just one game, and yes it is good. The rest of the Xanadu series is hit or miss. The original Xanadu is VERY old and janky. The PC Engine CD games had fan translations in the works, but the team working has been silent for like the past 6 years.
>Having the Xanadu brand tainted
Your game spent most of it's life as an N-gage exclusive don't pretend the Xanadu brand has any special meaning.
>Your game spent most of it's life as an N-gage exclusive
Better than filler title shat out in ten months to appease shareholders.
>don't pretend the Xanadu brand has any special meaning.
The original Xanadu was literally the best-selling Japanese PC game during the 80s, and was the game that really put Falcom on the map.
>Are you trying to tell me that the people that hype up Sky's writing are zoomers that simply don't know any better?
Nah, sounds like you just have shit taste and can't appreciate a slow, cozy cross-country trip.
>Nah, sounds like you just have shit taste and can't appreciate a slow, cozy cross-country trip.
The slow, cozy cross-country trip was exactly the thing I DID enjoy about Sky though, it was everything else that I had issues with.
It wasn't really a slight Ys 8 is genuinely up there as one of my favourite games of all time. It's just that from my understanding Ys is the gameplay series and Kiseki is the story focused series.
>it was everything else that I had issues with.
Then literally what are you complaining about? That was 90% of the game. SC is when it turns into FF4 meets shounen battle mangas. That seems to be your main subject of criticism for the trilogy.
Better paced my ass. That game takes twice as long to finish as Sky FC and reveals even less than that game - especially considering its place in the series' overarching story mostly amounts to rehashing stuff that Crossbell already revealed from a different perspective.
>Then literally what are you complaining about?
That the actual characters and story were uninteresting and not enjoyable.
>SC is when it turns into FF4 meets shounen battle mangas.
I liked SC WAY more because the cast actually got fleshed out and still had the globe trotting adventure of SC. To me SC is what FC should have been but with higher stakes so unfortunately I never got to experience the comfy adventure feel of FC with actual not awful characters.
Over a dozen games and literally nothing has happened
Which one is this?
I looked at the first one but it looks like ps2 shit compared to your pic
That's the third game.
The thrid and fourth games are huge graphical upgrades because the series did really well and they were not longer shackled to the vita.
Thanks, can I skip the first two if I just want that one white e-boi girl people post and that one titcow webm I always see?
Don't play the games for fanservice or for the e-bois.
But thats literally all I see when people post webms of the game
Post some combat or cutscene webms to convince me theres more
Here's a speedrun of the first game I did awhile back
Either CS3 or CS4. Those ones were PS4 and later Switch only so they bumped up the character model polygons.
It feels like nowadays people only play these games for the coom factor. The story went to shit, Zemuria appeal as a setting wore out, and the gameplay kind of devolved into a bloated tri-Ace tier recruitment JRPG with way too many characters and no real semblance of balancing.
I like the broken gameplay but I'm unsure about these new trails games since people say it ain't turnbased anymore and that's enough to put me off entirely
Your argument has no merit when the first three games is a literal sao romance story with no substance.
I don't know anything about SAO aside from that its garbage isekai so you're going to have to explain this or I'm just going to assume you watch bad anime and compare it to everything you see.
>b-b-b-but the forced romance makes it GOOD!!!!
>It's good when sky does it!!!!
>Story went to shit
Yes, or at least erbonia's story did.IT went from an interesting story about the politics of why erboina is the evil empire next door (and is it really even that evil) to Erbonia is literally the evil empire next door because of magic memes.
>Zemuria appeal as a setting wore out
I disagree, but I think the world-building is getting away from them. We've gone from liberal being some sort of super progressive country because it has usable airships and a single computer (but otherwise being medieval jrpg fantasy) to crossbell having modern intercontinental banking, cars and the internet to erbonia having fucking mechs, modern computers, modern pleasure yachts and smartphones in the space of like 7 years.
>no real semblance of balancing.
Fie is the most broken character from second one of the first game to the credits of 4. I don't think there was ever balancing.
Magic memes was in the story from the VERY beginning.
Liberl's had almost no impact on the modern state or its politics (beyond the establishment of the monarchy). Might have been a cool idea that it that some small amount of its power was making the inventors tech dreams a reality (but that doesn't happen).
Crossbell's is so irrelevant to the plot it committed sudoku
Erbonia's is responsible for not only the state of the country but the specific way each game plays out, down to where a bunch of students go, the order they go there and why (twice).
I'd strongly contest that the story went to shit in these games. Because saying it went to shit implies it went anywhere. I wish the game's plots went to shit, because that would at least mean something significant was happening. Once you realized that falcom has no intention of ever ending any of these it's impossible to muster up the energy to care about any of them.
Go back playing Snoy games with fuglyass women, you wokeshit bastard
I'm not saying that all the fan service is necessarily a bad thing, but I don't have to play 80+ hour-long JRPGs to find and enjoy that.
You should play Snoy games then, wokeshitting shitpig. They hate female fanservice and are full of wokegayry, just the way you like it.
>Kuro fan calling anything else woke
Stay in your lane.
dude, the franchise is currently being put on the back-burner because the last two games flopped hard due to being woke
they already confirmed kuro 3 and next year is the 20th anniverssary
your seething is not reality
Hello, Romangelo. Taking a break from playing with Barry today?
I already beat cold steel. Now im just sitting here waiting for another rean centric game.
I don't know jap, and I don't want to read chudlations
Besides rpgs are not real games
I always do the initial dungeon mission and then once it turns into highschool meet and greet I drop it instantly. I own all the games
Shit game for autists
>but the story!
The story is shit.
>no new poster in thread
The main appeal of Trails for me, over other JRPGs, is that the series has kept a shared world between games with recurring characters. I am tired of JRPGs always resetting their world.
>The main appeal of Trails for me, over other JRPGs, is that the series has kept a shared world between games with recurring characters.
Suikoden did it years before and did it better. This isn't a big deal and a shared world is meaningless when it's not an interesting one and the games have no real story to go with it. Each Suikoden takes part in the different time in a different part oft he world but always manages to tell a complete story. Even 4. Trails is what happens when you use "world building" as an excuse to hide you have nothing to say.
I played Sky and it's plot and characters were way too generic for how much I see people criticise Cold Steel for being generic and one dimensional. Sky's cast outside of Olivier(who is based and the best character in the series) and Kevin are a bunch of walking stereotypes without a hint of personality. I legit thought I was playing the wrong game with how hyped up it was in the writing department by people in these threads. I feel like even Ys 8 was a better written game than the first 3 Sky games.
its more that the tropes sky takes are from a generation of games/anime most people don't encounter because they are older than them.
Are you trying to tell me that the people that hype up Sky's writing are zoomers that simply don't know any better? I don't think there's really anything wrong with sticking to the tropes, once I got through my initial seething about how god damn terrible Sky FC was I actually enjoyed the subsequent 2 games quite a lot. I think people just set the wrong expectations for me which made me feel disappointed. I might have to replay FC at one point with my expectations right to see if I enjoy it more.
I need to play the Crossbell games next but I'm going to keep my expectations low this time. I enjoy dumb tropey stuff and I like how slow the games are, gives you that sense of belonging instead of rushing from plot point to plot point.
I wouldn't go that far. FC as I said was god awful, introducing characters and throwing them away before you could get attached to them, there was no hook beyond finding Casius which was way too sparse and uninteresting. Joshua's and Estelles interactions weren't fun for me, they aren't interesting characters and Estelle is kind of obnoxious and I really didn't like how much of a Mary Sue she is being forced into places in SC that she really had no place participating in and people sucking her dick like she was the best person ever. Their romance just felt melodramatic at times too. Maybe if you haven't played too many JRPGs Sky's writing could impress but to me it just felt tried and tested without really doing anything to set itself apart writing wise.
When it comes to giving you the sense of belonging, cold steel basically does it the best because one of the backdrops of the game is being part of an academy.
Actually, community is a big theme in the first two cold steel games. You're basically doing the same thing in sky where you're traveling around the country and helping people, but you're dealing with diverse communities and groups every chapter.
The big difference is that while cold steel rotates party members, you'll still get a decent amount of time with them as opposed to sky where you get a party member and then they're tossed aside.
That's why people tend to say cold steel is just a better version of sky.
>The big difference is that while cold steel rotates party members, you'll still get a decent amount of time with them as opposed to sky where you get a party member and then they're tossed aside.
The problem here is that despite the extra time you get none of that time is meaningful. I'd honestly argue that a shorter time spent with anyone character in a meaningful capacity is all the more memorable because their section of the game feels more compelling and unique rather than just another member for the party. And for as much as you say CS is about the community none of the characters really have any strong relationships outside of the MC. Which is honestly kind of a major deal. And surprisingly something TX actually did a decent job of with it's EX chapters taking the spotlight off Kou to give other characters a chance to interact with each other if only for a single brief dungeon.
Non criticism. I like CS becuase it shows them growing to be a group instead of just being BFFs right from the get go. The best shit in CS1 was exploring the school between chapters and seeing what everyone was up to. Something you never got in Sky, you see their other relationships outside of the main party, you see their interests, their hobbies, all kinds of unique proclivities that would have been left out if it was just another generic JRPG. CS1-4 are to me the only games in the series to properly make use of Kiseki's unique pacing to really flesh out its cast in a mundane real life kind of way. It felt real like they were just some kids who were thrust together. If anything CSs cast is TOO strong in their relationship with each other. This post reaks of someone that just rushed the story and didn't take his time to stop and smell the roses. The CS games have some really nice little details that you'd miss if you just speed through the game, most people just don't seem willing to give it a chance. Also fuck you Tokyo Xanadu is one of the worst written video games I've ever seen. The characters are INSANELY dull. They're a bunch of robots.
>I like CS becuase it shows them growing to be a group instead of just being BFFs right from the get go.
No it doesn't, it's the same Persona problem where the characters will get an implied arc but it's all served by and around MC and only the MC. None of the characters can tie their shoes without needing the MC to come over and pat their heads.
>Also fuck you Tokyo Xanadu is one of the worst written video games I've ever seen. The characters are INSANELY dull. They're a bunch of robots.
At least they didn't need four games to achieve a level of banal.
That's only barely an issue in CS1 because yes, they do literally revolve around Rean becuase it's like Rean's friends. They don't know each other, they don't spend time with each other so no shit their group is going to revolve around Rean. It's one thing I actually like is that Rean is only the centre piece holding them all together in 1 because their relationships are shallow at that point. If you play CS4 the difference is staggering. You constantly see the cast interacting while Rean's not involved at all. It's called development.
>At least they didn't need four games to achieve a level of banal.
CS1 achieved more with its character than TX did. That game is a travesty in writing. MCs childhood friend is literally the only not terribly written character.
>That's only barely an issue in CS1 because yes, they do literally revolve around Rean becuase it's like Rean's friends. They don't know each other, they don't spend time with each other so no shit their group is going to revolve around Rean.
Literally, LITER-FUCKIGN-ALLY the entire point of class 7 was to pull the best from both class groups and mix up the status quo. It's the entire reason your group even exists. It should be the driving force behind the entire plot but it's all but ignored because the universe has to orbit Rean.
>. They don't know each other, they don't spend time with each other so no shit their group is going to revolve around Rean.
THEY DON'T KNOW REAN EITHER! Fie knows about as much of him as she does Gaius. Gaius could probably tell you as much about Laura as he could Machias. We should be seeing all kinds of inter party mix ups. For as much as Machias screams about nobles why does he never so much as speak to Laura? Does he have anything to really say about Alisa who despite being a commoner is richer than most nobles? Why is Gaius even here?
>THEY DON'T KNOW REAN EITHER!
Have you even played CS1? You do know what you do in the game right? Yes they don't know Rean, but YOU as Rean interact with them so they get to know Rean. That's the point, Rean is the student council helper who goes around bridging the gaps between them They do not interact with each other so Rean brings them together, it's the biggest reason why he's the leader. Saying "it's bad because everyone else isn't BFFs despite them being BFFs with Rean" despite Rean having reason to get close to them while the others don't is a monumentally stupid complaint.
>Have you even played CS1? You do know what you do in the game right? Yes they don't know Rean, but YOU as Rean interact with them so they get to know Rean.
I am aware. But here's the point. For as much as they interact with Rean, there's really no reason they shouldn't all be interacting with each other either. The rest of class 7 do have stories outside of the class with their clubs and whatever but instead of focusing on their extra curricular lives they really should have more moments of the class acting as a class.
It's still a minor complaint considering even in CS2 that problem doesn't really exist. The whole "the whole cast revolves around Rean and don't feel close to each other" literally only applies to 1. In fact the rest of the group literally get paired togehter to form more intimate relations. Gaius and Elliot, Laura and Fie, Machias and Jusis, you even get a romance with Jusis and Millium(though contrived I'll admit). I feel like a lot of it is intentional so they can show how they grow closer to each other through the games. It's a complete non complaint considering CS1 is the set up game.
Thats how you spot someone who never played cold steel.
Everyone in class 7 has their own friends and they're all in different clubs.
There was even a storyline in CS1 where two characters who weren't getting along became friends.
>Everyone in class 7 has their own friends and they're all in different clubs.
Thus defeating the purpose of them being Class VII in the first place. That's the entire point people are complaining about. Nobody is saying they don't have stuff going on, what they're saying is that the stuff they have going on is mixed in with superfluous nonsense rather than exploring the very question and ideal the class was formed to develop. Nobody fucking cares about swim club drama or fucking polo sluts.
>what they're saying is that the stuff they have going on is mixed in with superfluous nonsense
This is exactly the biggest problem I have with a lot of Cold Steel criticism. This is not objective criticism. Just because you wanted them to focus on something you considered to be of greater importance does not mean the game needed to focus on it. "game didn't do thing I wanted it to do" is not criticism. The ideal that they were formed to develop was only something Olivier thought. It was never the plot focus or any of the actual Class 7 member's focus. You wanted it to focus on that and that's your problem.
>Nobody fucking cares about swim club drama or fucking polo sluts.
Again, YOU'RE expectations are yours. I loved that shit. I loved all that "superfluece" additions. It's literally why CS is my favourite of the 3 arcs. I like it becuase it doesn't just feel like another JRPG plot, it feels like a real world where people do their own things with their own lives and any happenings are simply that, things that happen in this world. For me Kiseki world building will ALWAYS trump its story. I don't really care that much about its story it hasn't been that interesting to me even back in Sky but the World is what I care about.
>This is exactly the biggest problem I have with a lot of Cold Steel criticism. This is not objective criticism.
It is literally the point of the class. They literally tell you YOU ARE HERE TO EXPLORE A MIX OF SOCIAL CLASS. I am only expecting this because this is what they tell us in the opening act of the game.
They also explicitly state that their goal is something long term for way after they've graduated so your point is moot.
Name one, you can't.
>They also explicitly state that their goal is something long term
But enough about Falcom's story telling plans.
>Erebonia's problem is Class structure
>Nobles tend to separate themselves from the commoners and the commoners are fairly powerless to stop that stratification without becoming mega wealthy and/or politicians
>Olivier decides the solution is to bring together some of Erebonia's most talented future leaders from both the nobility and commoners into one classroom where they can interact and get to form bonds with one another
>he does this
>it works they become best friends and their magical phones literally bond link them together so they can think as one in battle
>Erebonia's future is better off because the noble leaders of tomorrow aren't going to be anti-commoner jackasses and the commoner leaders of tomorrow aren't going to be anti-nobility jackasses
It's not complicated anon. Just because you personally, as Rean, didn't see every single interaction between the Class VII members doesn't mean they don't actually know or like one another. They're all best buddies. Half of Class VII's missions in CS1 happen without Rean being there.
>like it becuase it doesn't just feel like another JRPG plot
play more JRPGs
TX definitely did some things better in terms of how the hub town functioned and how characters interacted when one another, but the content was so tripe and derivative that it didn't mean much in the end. TX isn't a BAD game per se, but it's offensively mediocre and creatively bankrupt.
You're comparing an industry-shaping classic to a bunch of cheap otaku media made by a much smaller company. Not exactly fair, but considering some Trails fans do treat it like the second coming, I can why you'd feel the need to bring it up.
>It's always funny seeing actual jrpg fans try and get into the series and going "wait that's it?"
This isn't the case, though.
>You're comparing an industry-shaping classic to a bunch of cheap otaku media made by a much smaller company.
I just want to illustrate a point. I know Trails love its WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS and Trails fan love it, but to say "The characters aren't developed because... there was too many of them so some of them don't get enough screentime" is completely delusional. It's just a matter of writing.
Half the ingredients were sold by the woman at the inn and the other half are dropped by enemies.
> I finished the first one on Hard and only a few fights were really hard, so I tought I should do the same in this one.
Sky SC's Hard and Nightmare modes are the hardest in the series, mainly because they were tacked on without any balancing.
>I think I'll start again then.
You can use a save editor to change the difficulty without starting over, I've never done it but if you search online you should find some info
>This isn't the case, though.
I'd disagree, I've seen people call Sky a 9/10 constantly in Kiseki threads. They've sort of died down in the extreme views as of late but they were fucking zealots around the height of CS4 release.
>TX definitely did some things better in terms of how the hub town functioned and how characters interacted when one another, but the content was so tripe and derivative that it didn't mean much in the end
I'm not trying to pretend like it's especially ground breaking or anything but it as least something and that's very often enough. Give characters complimentary personalities and if it's on cruise control it can take care of itself. Take the reclusive computer geek put him next to the genki tomboy, take the older characters and let them act as voices of wisdom, have the generic childhood friend get jealous of the ever distant growing hero as he spends more time with the mysterious heroine. It's nothing new, it's like you say pretty well trodden ground, but it's SOMETHING.
My bar for enjoyment just isn't that low, unfortunately, and I know that Falcom were once capable of much better.
Which game is this?
Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection. It's very good.
Is the first game required or are they self contained?
Mostly self-contained. The first game is... rough.
>Maybe if you haven't played too many JRPGs Sky's writing could impress
yeah it's this. Sky came out when jrpgs were brand new on steam so that's when the PCfags who are new to the genre got into it. this fandom is infamous for not playing any jrpgs besides trails, so they can only compare the games to the other games in the series. that's where the loud praise for Sky comes from.
It's always funny seeing actual jrpg fans try and get into the series and going "wait that's it?"
Cold steel is just a more polished version of sky, minus the 10 hour prologue.
Even if you wanna single out the characters as trope heavy you can't deny the writing of Sky was strong. Sky SC has one of the best endings in a JRPG ever and an extremely well done romantic plot as well. That's not to say CS doesn't have its moments too, it's just that Sky is too iconic and solid.
>I feel like even Ys 8 was a better written game than the first 3 Sky games.
it's no secret that Ys VIII is the best game falcom has put out since their 2000s era.
Biggest argument why old class 7 is better: It has Laura
Biggest argument why old class 7 is worse : It has Alisa
Biggest argument why new class 7 is better: Altina
nuClass VII was the best thing to happen to the series.
Alisa is the second best Cold Steel though.
Aw. I liked Alisa. You may call me vanilla or whatever, but her scenes with Rean were just adorable.
Alisa is everything wrong with jap female characters.
People just hate on alisa because she has blonde hair. If she had silver hair people would put her on a pedestal.
People only hate Alisa because she's tsundere and they're tsundere about tsunderes.
The big problem with Alisa isn't so much that she's tsundere but the game wants to force you to accept her as the main girl but then pretend you get persona esque dating sim crap too. So you'll be courting Laura for example but then the game will go out of the way to have Rean and Alisa sit down under the stars in a big romantic moment. Like if they just cut the crap, let the other characters have relationships outside of Rean (Not specifically romantic but maybe) and just had Alisa as the one heroine... well I can't say I'd like her too much really but I'd be less annoyed at the very least.
They really should have done Alisa only, or a choice between Alisa and Laura. Pretty much none of the romances between the other girls felt natural and felt shoe-horned in and because everyone was a potential choice all the scenes were shallow with little to no meaningful development.
To three's credit it did try to narrow it down to Alisa, Laura and Emma but then four threw that right out the window and just went all in on everyone. Even when it doesn't make sense
Everyone makes sense.
Just give everyone a choice because forcing something on people is just going to piss them off.
Yes so many people were pissed off when Joshua was forced on Estelle.
Joshua should have picked Josette, she was the superior tomboy.
I played these games thinking Alisa was gonna be a typical bitchy tsundere but they got over that shit in an hour. She's inoffensive otherwise.
I prefer the prisma illya spinoff starring Alisa
wish it had more content
I honestly think only mentally ill people would play such an ugly game.
>saves webm of game he hates and posts it on Ganker
is it true that only the first trilogy is good?
Cold Steel 1 is pretty good too. Just pretend the story ends there.
From what I'm seeing yes, just play all the games and maybe cold steel 1 because past that it's like they made the game for 12 year old kids while still trying to retain plot elements from a nearly 20 year old series
>this is supposed to be a super serious moment
this webm single handedly killed any interest I had in this series
It's not that bad in the context of the proceeding and following cutscenes, with the music playing and the context of what's happening.
It obviously looks like shit but it's really just there to show what everyone is doing.
You know I can forgive the bad graphics. I really can. But god I just wish falcom would improve it's animations. Every game going forward could look like Celceta and I wouldn't fuss if they just could animate. Even simple gestures like kneeling or getting up or handing off objects are done via fades.
Reminds me of FFXIV 2.0+, which actually has an excuse as its an mmo with a character creator.
The fades truly are out of hand and I have no clue why they resort to this.
>MC and friends are huffing and puffing
>oh I wasn't even trying, now let's go for real
Yup, it's McKino time.
For such a goofy looking bro with such a dumb fucking name McKino has no right being as fun as he is. He's legit my favourite antagonist in the whole series. He's just so ridiculously over the top that he steals every scene he's in. Love him.
Did you play enough to know why he's called McBurn?
>Mera Cu Baldugh Ruang
>oh I'm actually a demon from another dimension
Yeah can we talk about that. Because forget whatever's happening in this shit hole I want to see what the fuck is going on in the his world.
>89% dodge in chapter 2
>auto crit on dodge
>+400% crit damage
Why did falcom do this?
I love how butthurt trails makes predditors, chuds, and Gankeredditors
stay mad, gays 😉
I played the game up to CS3, it just went to fucking shit
Kuro 1 was kino until it crashes in the second game to the point not any Cold Steel was that bad.
I refuse to believe it's worse than CS.
Kuro 2 literally has an object established immediately that rewinds every time the paryty dies. So the party starts dying to the point it becomes a monty python sketch.
It includes the party getting blown up with a bomb, that Shizuna actually sees, but doesn't tell the group just because she wants to see what it's like to die in an explosion.
>Playing trails games past Ao
I unironically liked the 3rd the most because it cut out the filler bs that would get in the way of the interesting story segments
I ignore all opinions of 3rdfags because the shit they like it for removing is exactly the stuff that makes Kiseki what it is. Playing Kiseki for the story is only what stupid gays do. You play Kiseki for the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG drawn out adventures in an interesting world. It's the biggest reason I unironically like CS more than Sky it's because it's slower and yet it's the biggest criticism I see people give CS.
>Cuts out filler.
>Old School house 2 Electric Boogaloo
3rd took me the longest of the Sky games to complete, yet it's the shortest one. It feels fucking awful to play with it's pacing and dungeon-to-dungeon layout. The prologue was so kino and set great expectation, then the fucking CUBE shows up. Having it entirely not be grounded in the actual world the series spent two games making felt awful to play.
3rd has good writing and moments but its absolute trash to go through
Trails as a dungeon crawler doesn't work.
Most of the FF6 characters get two (2) cutscenes of development, each only a few minutes long, and they are more memorable than the Class 7 characters. The problem is the writing, not the amount of screentime.
Honestly It really doesn't take a lot. I'd say even most Ys characters are better written than a lot of the trails cast even if and when they're sticking to archetypes. I feel far too many people get it into their heads that a character arc has to be something massive when it just needs to be... well it just needs to be.
>You're comparing an industry-shaping classic to a bunch of cheap otaku media made by a much smaller company. Not exactly fair, but considering some Trails fans do treat it like the second coming, I can why you'd feel the need to bring it up.
I don't see why that should matter. It doesn't take a lot to write a decent character arc. All you need is to introduce a character. Give them a goal/desire/problem to over come and boom we're off to the races. It's honestly just kind of basic level story writing. Even if you just follow a template it's better than having the characters just exist to be the MC's cheer squad.
I started Trails in the Sky SC on Hard but I already regretted it. I spent 4 hours and still don't know how to kill the prologue boss. I'm afraid to start again but on Normal and the game is too easy.
Holy shit, the beginning is pure cancer on Hard.
Normal on SC is like Hard on FC. Just pick Normal for SC, and when you get to the Cold Steel games pick Hard on those ones.
>I spent 4 hours and still don't know how to kill the prologue boss.
If you didn't invest in cookies it's already too late, you'll have to restart the whole game for a chance to beat him.
I have a cookie I found, but I don't know if the ingredients to make more were just sold by the woman at the inn.... Now she's been kidnapped.
I think I'll start again then. I finished the first one on Hard and only a few fights were really hard, so I tought I should do the same in this one. There's also the fact that it's possible to import the save, so I guess I should have started more prepared with my old save, I don't know.
I never played the first and seeing as there’s like 10 games and all off them are connected and even the NPCs have dialogue changes…I just already feel exhausted from even thinking of trying to get into this series.
>Rean kneels defeated
>I have no choice but to use my power
>NOT SO FAST
>The Yellow Fox?!?!
>I got this Rean, get out of here
Rean and his allies are both overpowered and jobbers at the same time.
Does Rean ever have a canon love interest or is he a permavirgin like Kiryu?
Step one of having a harem setup is not making any of the choices canon so as to not piss any fans off.
He remain virgin
Played the first one for 10 hours and I was getting bored of nothing happening. I entered Ganker and some anons said that the plot only picks up near the end and I said fuck it, not worth bothering with
Actually this. CS1 is nothing happen until the end and the cast is really boring. No reason to waste time on them.
the sequel is even worse because the game constantly tells you more interesting things are happening elsewhere while you do filler shit and the story is back-loaded until the last third of the game.
At this point I'm convinced that fans of the franchise keep saying that it is good just because they have sunk way too much time in the games and it's their way of coping
I enjoyed CS2 despite its flaws, sorry you guys didn't. It could be better sure, as could most other jrpgs
I've got the platinum trophy for every Cold Steel games. I genuinely love them in all their cheesy glory. They just aren't enjoyable in the traditional sense. I think even for Sky they sort of have the same appeal as Persona, did you ever play Persona and think "god this school stuff is boring when can we get back to the plot"? If you did you'd probably not like Kiseki. I like Kiseki for the leasurly adventure and more mundane world building and character interactions it has. The wolrd feels vibrant and lived in becuase it deals with what daily life is like in such a setting. In your typical JRPG it's just moving from plot point to plot point with a cutscene between every new place moved but Kiseki is all about the slow life. I enjoy it for that. It's the SOL anime of JRPGS.
The school aspect of persona wasnt bad. It was the constant scene after scene after scene reiterating the same plot point over and over again. Thats when i started skipping dialogue. It was like an event happened then the characters discussed it. Then we have to see 2 useless npcs have the same discussion. Then that happens again. Then characters discuss it again. Then the character runs into an npc to have the same fucking conversation again. Then 2 story relevant npcs have the discussion. Like holy shit how many times do you have to have the same conversation. It got really bad in 5 especially towards the end of september.
4 was awful about this shit.
>We rescued Yukiko!
>Sorry I don't remember.
>We rescued Kanji!
>I got nothing.
>We rescued Rise?
>SENPAI GIVE COCK <3
>Naoto, you got captured on purpose please tell me you learned LITERALLY ANYTHING
I enjoyed the first two games but then the plot doesn't evolve. I can only stomach so much of;
>Enemy becomes your allies
>Rean headpats girl and she joins his fanclub
>Dominating fights and then the cutscene after is Rean kneeling
>Characters dying/losing their memory.
Did we play the same trails series?
Sorry I meant to say "Characters "dying" and then losing their memory"
Character mind controlled. Repeat in Hajimeri, repeat in Kuro 2
What really gets me is the constant sense than for any progression I may make it's never enough. You introduce your big scary enemy and they kick your ass? Okay cool. You go off, train, and come back ready for round 2. And you think you finally grew and can match them, only for them to be all LOL NO, and then reveal "they were holding back" the entire time. The game absolutely refuses you to feel like you've developed in any meaningful sense.
I could understand it for maybe the first game. But it keeps happening in 2&3. Every fight you just know is gonna go down like this;
>Heh.. Rean and friends.. show me what you can do
>Beat them up
>Not bad.. for a warm up
>Rean either then proceeds to have to use his power or a teacher or adult comes in and saves you.
>I enjoyed the first two games but then the plot doesn't evolve. I can only stomach so much of;
>Enemy becomes your allies
>Rean headpats girl and she joins his fanclub
>Dominating fights and then the cutscene after is Rean kneeling
>Characters dying/losing their memory.
Its only gets worse in CS III and IV I think the worst offender for me was how they kept saying they wanted to remain neutral yet only assist one side of the civil war. Worst yet nobody died in a big ass war
like i said nobody died in the big civil war
No, I don't think I will.
Sky 1 and 2 are the only good ones in the series
I'm tired of this meme that "character development = character's personality must change through the story"
I hate the term character development to begin with. Characterization is a much more important writing staple than development. Before you think of changing your characters and having them grew flesh them fucking out first. Who gives a flying fuck if Estelle gets character development if she develops from a wooden spoon to a metal spoon. She's fucking boring regardless.
The issue is that "character development" is kind of a vague term that everyone has their own definition of, then it's treated as a thing writing MUST have, so if it doesn't have "my personal definition of character development" then the writing must be bad.
For some people, it means specifically the character changes in some way. But why should a character have to change to be considered well-written? And even if some characters change, in a large cast, why should they ALL change?
For other, it means the character being multi-faceted. Which is obviously a good thing, but do we need EVERY characters to be multi-faceted? For the main characters, sure. I think it's perfectly fine to have some party members who are more simple and one-note. They can still be fun in their own way. A cute little girl can be just that. A grumpy old man can be just that.
>I'm tired of this meme that "character development = character's personality must change through the story"
You know what, fair enough, the characters don't have to CHANGE but you should at least get more insight into who they are what their bag is.
I HATE EREBONIA AND REAN.
CS would have been better if it didn't have a main character.
Reminder that the Legend of Nayuta: Boundless Trails remaster/remake in English comes out sometime this year
Pls friends I do not want this series to flop
Already preordered the LE within the hour of annoucement
Oh, I didn't even know that was announced yet. Thanks for the heads up.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR TRAILS INTO ESG
this is the fanbase thinks Estelle being written into a completely different character in English was 'good'. I don't think they care.
I dunno that that has to do anything with speeches about inclusion and diversity.
What happened? I haven't played that one
Kuro went into racial politics. It calls white people white. All the nonwhites are comically holy and never do anything wrong, while everything bad is due to white people.
The term "white supremacist" is unironically used.
I'm so tired of it
There's at least 3 quests about white supremacists sending threatening letters to innocent brown or asian people.
Preorders for western release of Kuro part 1 go up in November Kuro part 2 is slated for May 2024 for its preorders
Do I play these in order of 1, 2, 3,4? Or are they self contained stories. What do I play if not?
>Or are they self contained stories.
At most I'd say only CS1 is a self contained story
It ends on a cliffhanger!
You would have to take off the epilogue for it to be completely self contained. If it ended after chapter 6, perhaps.
These games seriously need a "destroy the death star" moment. You know where you stop the big evil threat and it's all cool and you're left feeling good but then you get home and remember the empire is still out there and there's room to explore for future games.
Agree. that is something that I think Zero did quite well. Lloyd and crew win, but there are still a lot of problems looming on the horizon in the aftermath of defeating the villain who he fished with.
Well yeah. That's part of it too. They introduce a lot of mysterious but there's a more immediate concern that they're trying to deal with. You find crazy magic drugs fairly early on, you deal with the mafias, you try to sort out with all this shit is coming from and there's a big fight, it looks like Crossbell is saved.
They all follow each other.
Sky -> Sky SC -> Sky the 3rd -> Zero -> Azure -> Cold Steel -> Cold Steel 2 -> Cold Steel 3 -> Cold Steel 4
You can get away with just playing the cold steel series in order of 1 > 2 >3 >4 but the devs loves to throw old characters at you. So be prepared to meet side characters that are from older games. They get introductions and stuff though.
Each one is a direct sequel which makes it bizarre as to why the cold steel games seem like they're written for middle schoolers when the only people who could be possibly still interested in the series have done so for over a decade
>You mustn't stare even though all the girls in the series have massive tits and show their cleavage for the world to see
I'm still convinced every female is a whore in the game series.
Just play cold steel as a harem fantasy mary sue simulator. It's the best way to play. When Estelle blushed when Rean shook her hand infront of Joshua, I almost couldn't believe it. Or when Juna, the girl who hates the empire and Rean falls in love with him.
>Just play cold steel as a harem fantasy mary sue simulator. It's the best way to play.
the world would be a better place if reanfags would just cut the bullshit and be as honest as you lmao
I can't self-insert as Rean. I couldn't do it even if I wanted to. I'm not him, I don't look like him, I don't think like him, I don't act like him, I have nothing in common with him.
Rean is honestly too much to a point where I can't tell if Falcom is having a giggle. He feels like a parody of typical self insert bullshit but there's nothing to indicate it's a joke.
Rean is best enjoyed playing completely straight. Ironic gays need not apply.
I've always said that Cold Steel is just dumb fun and morons bitching and moaning about the writing just need to get the stick out of their ass.
Fans of the earlier games didn't sign up for that brand of dumb fun, though. Getting mad over a betrayal of expectations isn't really irrational.
You deserved it for being gays. God smited you for your sins.
They did when they started playing a trails game. Implying that the cold steel games are that much different than crossbell or sky is silly.
Fucking this oh my god. This literally wouldn't be a problem if Skyfags weren't such pretentious gays Jesus. you moved from one mediocre JRPG that you enjoy for its charming qualities to another mediocre JRPG that you enjoy for its charming qualities. The quality between every game from FC to Hajimari is incredibly consistent. If you were to rate them all out of 10 there'd be like 1 or 2 points different between all of them.
>Implying that the cold steel games are that much different than crossbell or sky is silly.
Last I checked, Trails in the Sky wasn't a corny mech drama with dating mechanics.
But Sky has mecha though. And corny romance. And a small harem with Joshua.
>But Sky has mecha though.
There's a difference between having mechs and being a plot centered on them.
>And corny romance.
One that actually fits well into the plot and isn't just dumb pandering to shipfags.
>And a small harem with Joshua.
Hardly comparable to the lengths CS went to surround Rean with fuckbuddies.
>yet another episode of "it's fine when Sky does it"
The laughable double standards of Skyhypocrites never gets old. As expected of the most pretentious JRPG fanbase on Ganker.
>There's a difference between having mechs and being a plot centered on them
valimar was a bro but the gameplay for the divine knight battles were shit throughout all the games.
is the game fun or dooes booba trick youre brain into thinking that your having fun?
I'm just here to say that Estelle, Tio and Emma are the best girls in their respective arcs. That's all.
Love Emma. She's the perfect girl to me. Cute glasses and long hair. Smart and fun and a little shy. Sigh.
Also her tits are huge.
*mind rapes you in a dream*
I love how small they look compared to the absolute tit cow in Hajimari and Kuro.
Ellie is mine
All these years and no one can't make a new vid or closeup sharp pic.
Be the change you want to see.Lazy bastard.
Look man! Blame your folks for spamming that shit everywhere. And also the damn pantsu spam is the reason i'm here. I never seen such huge amount is sharp detail before.
they look cheap and low budget
Nayuta looks neat. More Ys esque adventure type. I'm down for that.
Oh hey Lloyd, overcome any barriers today?
>Oh hey Lloyd, overcome any barriers today?
Do hymens count as barriers?
How the fuck is Lloyd still a virgin when he has these two constantly thristing after his big barrier breaking cock?
Because unlike certain other ladies they won't force themselves on his poor innocent boy body
They do. But I'm pretty such the marriage barrier blocks the hymen barrier. And the marriage barrier is blocked by the ask her out you fucking idiot barrier.
Trails characters are extremely shy. Estelle and Joshua have been a couple since Sky 2 and they won't tell anyone that's the case all the ways in fucking CS4.
And people accuse the other 3 of being whores because they show a little skin, yikes.
Uh I believe Joshua literally says they're a couple in Zero.
How do anons who romanced Fie feel about her getting railed by Van Dyke every night in Kuro
Why would Van do her when there's a superior alternative?
Who says he only does one of them?
Not Van but Vandyke’s grandson Julian. He’s a haremchad btw
im just here for the child belly
>Estelle gets captured and imprisoned on the Glorious
>"Joshua... No... this isn't time to mope! I gotta get the hell out of here asap!"
>Rean gets captured and imprisoned on the Pantagruel
>"I'm so worthless, I can't do anything right haha... I will never, EVER forgive that bastard Crow! How dare he...change my mind with onion rings? Oh Crow..."
Only gays like CS.
What? 2 different characters have 2 different reactions to things? Stop the fucking presses. gay.
Do you think Kuro will sell for having an actual chud in the party?
Anyone have links to the translation patches for Hajimari and Kuro? Seems like the original site that hosted them got taken down or something.
So what's next for Falcom? They've got Ys X coming out soon but what after that? They've already said that they're taking a break from Kiseki so we won't have any new games for the next year or 2 so what games will they make? I'd like for them to have another crack and Tokyo Xanadu. That game sucks ass but it does a lot of interesting things that I'd like for them to build on. Mainly I really like the mix of the Ys gameplay with Kiseki orbmant customisation.
I mean I'd be down for another one. Maybe bring back another IP that's been dormant for a while? Tokyo Sorcerian? Another Popful Mail? More Brandish?
why does every kiseki thread have to be falcom general? i just want to talk about kiseki i don't care about their other shit
>Make a Falcom general Trails threads fag it up
>Make a trails thread Falcom chads save it.
All threads about Falcom's games are like this. It's a fanbase full of spergs. Every thread has to be Falcom General instead of just about Trails or just about Ys or whatever else.
ever since the cord found out that Ganker is translating the games the general became unusable because of nonstop shitposting, so they have to use other threads
its funny as fuck, good riddance for years of haha and reanposting
>why does every kiseki thread have to be falcom general?
because/fg/ is shit
I only finished one. I felt like a skeeve going after Millam at the festival when the game shipped me with Alicia though.
>Elise: ehhhh Rean, is there someone you're interested in?
>(Dance with Milliam), (Dance with Fie)
Geofront is doing Dinosaur, I don't get into the falcom generals but I haven't seen much talk about it.
because nobody cares
Unfortunately, fans of Falcom's non-Ys and non-Trails games are far and few between these days.
wtf do you mean these days? their games were never popular especially here. zwei 2 almost fucking bankrupted falcom.
What I mean is the western fandom had more of an open mind for their other games when XSeed still had rights to their franchises. Then Trails blew up and it became like 90% of the fandom's discussion.
Sounds more like you just have a grudge that people like Trails for some reason which probably stems from contrarianism. I liked all their shit that was released on Steam except for TX but the whiners who complain that people dare to like Trails are just fucking losers.
>Sounds more like you just have a grudge that people like Trails for some reason which probably stems from contrarianism.
Cause the level of discussion for Falcom's output has completely gone to shit ever since Trails' rise to popularity? I can't imagine the 2010-2016 era western fandom spawning anything as obnoxious as Reanposting.
Wouldn't have happened if people weren't so butthurt about his superiority and popularity.
It's more like you're just mad that [insert game] doesn't get as much discussion as Trails does which like yeah, why the fuck would it? Trails has so much to discuss about it but what can you say about Xanadu Next that hasn't been said already? This is just pure contrarianism. And it's not like theres anything stopping you from discussing whatever game you want to yet people like you have such an insane victim complex just because a series you don't like is popular.
It's not about how much discussion those games get. It's about the kind of fandom and discussion Trails brought about as it rose to popularity. Even Trails itself barely has any earnest discussion. People spend more time bitching about localization delays, spamming Stable Diffusion porn, and posting weird Joshua edits, and shitposting about woke shit in Kuro than discussing stuff like the world and story.
Your stupid general is not the entire world.
The rest of the world is posting dumb memes on Twitter, shipping discussions, fan art reposting, and banal show-and-tell bullshit about newfags' recent purchases and impressions. Not much better if you ask me.
Well there isn't anything to really discuss right now due to the lengthy localization times and the fact that NISA killed the Kuro 2 spreadsheet so nobody discuss that either but this still just comes across as being mad that people post about something you don't like.
I liked the series a lot until its writing and characters declined to the point of mockery. And then the discussion declined alongside those two things.
>telling the truth about Kuro is shitposting
Well, I suppose it is posting about a shit game.
my guy, /fg/ is not a representation of the entire western kiseki fanbase. it's just infested with a few schizos who do nothing but shitpost about games they didn't even play.
Did you miss the other post?
>Ganker has gotten worse after 2016
wow shocking revelation there
It was shit way before that.
why do falcomfags think that because you like one of their games that you have to like literally everything ever made
i dont give a fuck about action rpgs it's why i like trails
will kuro ever smash renne
we used to have such comfy threads but now its seen as "cool" to hate these games now so unfortunately you'll never have a non retarded thread again
grow thicker skin
>Erebonia gets 5 games of build up
>we view it through holding back haha man in an anime high school
I will never not be mad
More like glad. Love rean simple as. Can't wait for another arc to have him as a playable character as he looks for his master.
You really want him to be in the arc where Towa gets shot by white supremacists? Don't worry she's OK.
Rean is the best part of CS and completely unironically the best written protagonist of the 3 arcs though still not as good as Kevin.
>Rean where are you going at this hour, are you out on a date with a lady?
>W-what? Nothing of the sort. Don't tease me like that! Haha.
>Rean let me blow you
>Guys I'm not that strong, I just picked up a few moves from my master.
>[goes super saiyan]
Have you ever read a light novel?
You mean we got kino
sometimes i see webms like this and wonder how did i ever play these games
lower standards back then
I never watched the anime, was it any good?
Has a lot of fanservice for cold steel stuff and shows what happened in between CS II and CSIII. Quality is ass, but lore is cool.
It's pretty cool if you played the games but it has practically no budget.
Cold Steel would have been cool if it went all in on the mecha stuff instead of leaning so hard into muh dazzling school life.
Just finished the insert act between 1 and 2. Holy mother of mecha kino. Now give me Estelle, Lloyd and Rean mecha fighting
In CS4 I'm retarded
act 2 of CS4 is the worse part of the game, the ending of said act is pretty kino if you play all the previous games tho
Falcom should be progressive and have Rean come as a transexual. Lots of people would buy their merchandise in support and it'd give another us a great character to root for
Kuro already has a transsexual party member though
I don't give a shit about playing the old games, but I like that purple haired scythe girl. Does Kuro have her as the main girl?
can you waifu her?
There's no waifu mechanics in Kuro
Definitely possible after how hard Kuro 2 went on being a harem game.
was the scythe girl part of the harem
Everyone was I'm not joking
does he fade to black bang them. he seems to have a libido since he goes to strip places.
No, nothing happens with any of them, they just thirst after him
is it done in a funny way, though? like, they own their thirst and would be down to bone. Or is it some wimpy 'h-he's holding my hand, what do I do'
Does Judith also thirst after Van?
They all do
Does that mean characters are allowed to form bonds with people other than protag this time?
No. They still all just orbit Van.
lmao Kuro 2 panders harder than fucking CS did.
that's just an outright lie cs4 is a 100x worse in that regard
It absolutely isn't. CS has some girls not be for Rean. Kuro 2 does not.
stop talking until Kuro gets Hajimari equivalent VR scenes
No, but she's there
After browsing this thread, I'm strongly considering dropping the series after Ao.
what do you want a medal? do it or don't who cares
>I hate fun
Okay but that's your loss.
>I'm strongly considering dropping the series after Ao.
nothing against that, it's the peak of the series tbh
I just don't have the energy or inclination to play another 50+ hour game that's no doubt just going to be more sequel bait.
Then don't. Why do people act like theres a gun to their head that forces them to play these games? Stop being a bitch and if you don't like them then just don't play them. Tired of gays like this.
>Nooooo nobody is allowed to say anything about muh series
Piss off fanboy, I put a lot of time into these things. I didn't hate it but I'm not about to act like they're losing their spark.
the gaming market will always be dominated totally by men
that is your target audience, pander to them
Judging by Kuro, they seem to think their market is arabs and trannies
fuck off back to your general retard
it probably is
is that fie?
she finally looks cute after her trash cs3 design
Yes but it looks like her head pasted onto another character.
Adult Fie makes me diamonds, most fiefags abandoned her cause she's a hag now though.
There's just something about the world that I can't help but feel is so staggeringly dull. Maybe it's just the non urgent way quests are doled out, maybe it's the more modern style aesthetic but even when you see something weird and fantastical it's like they just suck all the fantasy right out of it.
I think Kuro looks incredibly dull, because it's just real world buildings with real world cars.
Well that's part of it too. I kind of feel any setting where you can just take a bus to your destination sort of lacks that frontier spirit. Everything is just so.. blase.
"Hey there's a highway monster. Why don't you kill it or something. You know, if you want."
I am entirely fine with the ability to take a bus to your destination, at least within the city... But if the bus is an orbal bus using infinite clean magic energy, it should not just look like a bus from London
i actually like the mix of technology and fantastical i don't get why every setting has to be medieval
I didn't say it had to be medieval, I said it was safe. It can be more modern but everything is just treated so matter of fact.
i don't really get the complaint? of course it's matter of fact is just how the world is to them. why would they treat monsters as being fantastical when they're just a part of life to them?
That's kind of it though. They have a world filled with all kinds of crazy monsters, magic and other crap and it just feels too normalized. The kind of monsters you can have running up and down your bus line really shouldn't be treated as little more than an annoyance. Orbal revolution or not this kind of shit would have a major impact on the development of the world. But everything is just treated like an errand.
>My kids have gone missing in this monster infested sewer let me just fill out bracer request form 67-b, sign here, wait for an appropriate rank bracer to show up and.... they're already dead.
It's not though? people get freaked out when they see someone who can naturally use magic without having to use technology and theres tons of supernatural shit that people get weirded out by and i think you're overexaggerating how clinical bracer requests are
I do think sometimes they give monsters the appropriate threat level, especially in Crossbell, like the time those gorilla monsters threaten the bus.
They felt less like establishing a potentially dangerous threat and more like giving Estelle and Josh a cool intro.
What is the consensus for Van's writing compared to other Kiseki protags?
I like it when Van punishes white people based on them being white.
How fragile are you?
you think it's a genocide when someone plays Hogwarts Legacy, sit down.
have a nice day politicbrained election tourist gay
And here you have the Seething Kurofag in its natural habitat, mad at people showing parts of the game to others that they would rather pretend weren't there.
Nobody can even make sense of what you're trying to show nor do they care.
Nah, other people are not Kurofags, they have an IQ high enough to understand things.
You mean they aren't mentally ill like you?
Peak projection. Just read your posts, you're deranged.
The ones where you lash out like a mental patient subanimal leftoid dog.
So you really did skip out on your pills today huh? Voices must be really loud.
This is unironically how the Kurofags act in /fg/ every time someone points out something they don't like about Kuro. They're unhinged, rofl.
>admitting to shitting up /fg/ and now doing it here
Haha, that's our wokefag!
Does it hurt your ass that much that I'm showing people how woke Kuro is?
why does Ganker love making mountains out of molehills?
rofl imagine the shitfit if the races were reversed
Why did falcom go anti-white woke?
Fuck if I know
I like all the little interactions he has with people like his banter with Aaron and his autistic love for his car and the fact that he'll often bite back to people instead of kiss their ass all the time but I feel like the whole "i have to learn to trust and connect with people again" arc is kind of just a retread of what they did with Rean and his relationship with Elaine had potential until they chickened out and probably will just make it a boring harem thing in Kuro 3.
Who's even gonna be in his harem even if that's the case? Hahaman at least has his sluts from Class 7 while Van only has at most two chicks orbiting him.
He's great and has just the right amount of eccentric qualities to make him endearing.
holy shit, he's based. I might finally have fun with a kiseki protag after 2 arcs
1 > 4 > 2 > 3
If it has tio i play it
Haha, nice one, wokefag. Are you convincing Ganker you're not crazy? How's that working out?
Look at this rancid gaslighting dog.
Now what's next, is that they'll insist you're the schizo, and also that you're me, because they are so mentally broken they cannot fathom more than one person disiking Kuro on woke grounds.
All these subanimal fiends can do is gaslight.
They're truly wretched fucking vermin.
Have you considered medication? Here you are angry being called out for doing what you always do, but on Ganker this time. Mental health, not even once.
One last free (You), on the house. But do consider taking your pills, mental illness is no joke.
Different people. Nice try, wokefag schizo. Here you are doing it again!
I'm sure this won't convince those who are in bad faith but w/e
There were two schizos shitting up the /fg/ thread just like this yesterday as well. What exactly do you think you're proving? That you're not THE wokefag, just one of them? Nice one, truly a win for you.
Why even bother, they'll just accuse you of inspect element or w.e and continue gaslighting, the only thing these worthless gays know how to do.
Yeah bro they'll just accuse you, all those voices in your head will.
So, which one of you is Romangelo/Monterossa? We already know who one of the wokefags is. You play off each other well. Discord buttbuddies, perhaps?
These people are so unhinged that it's even more fun to do what I do. They're Steven Universe fanbase tier insane.
Don't take this as I don't think that Kuro is woke or anything. I believe what I'm saying. But when shitty people get super unhinged and mad over it it makes it more fun.
im the schizo ama
So, is Kuro the last arc?
Kuro 1 and 2 bombed incredibly hard. So hard they have to asset flip it one more time for a third game to recoup their losses. It might put the series on hold after the arc.
We need to go back
Seriously though bring back Brandish