It's all about state of mind, so as one might expect, a mind-altering drug could help enter the specific state of mind they need.
And I say this as someone who doesn't partake, because I become a worthless lump when I'm high or drunk.
he's larping as a puritain "all drugs and alcohol bad" idiot because he's too scared to disobey his parents and has associated those things with his political boogeymen.
>People are so weak nowadays >nowadays
I have been using GM juice for 25 years and i dont intend to stop.
Nothing like a shot to grease the squeaky cogs
I am not advising anyone to get shitfaced, but a round of shots make any game run much smoother.
people were drinking and smoking for these games decades ago. I know you lived in a little DARE bubble growing up with parents telling you alcohol was the devil, but you're actually the odd one out here anon.
>gabapentin
Medfag here, just curious, which diagnosis? I work in neurology and we prescribe it for epilepsy, neuropathic pain and some cases of tremors, but never for anxiety. I know different countries have different guidelines. For example, here we use rituximab off-label for MS were in other countries it's a big no-no.
NTA but I had a player that smoked a little bit before every session (not enough to really notice he was high) but he was one of the best roleplayers I ever had. that being said I did have one player that would smoke his weed vape while playing and just be completely out of it by the time it ended and it fucking sucked playing with him he didn't really last.
I guess it depends on how you take it with moderation. I'm more of a beer guy so ill go with a beer example and I don't mind getting a little buzz or my players if it loosens them up but you can't be getting shitfaced
>I think a better question is, does it work? Because if it does, let them.
this
if it doesn't cause problems for me or others I don't give a shit what someone else does
Having played with a few stoners, this is something that varies. There's the guy who smokes because that is his priority and puts minimal energy into the session, and there's the guy who smokes because it's available and is the most engaged player at the table.
Some people just know they cannot handle social situations and need all the help they can get
I'd got work drunk if I didn't have to drive to get there
Not really "need", but as a social setting between friends, we usually share a blunt or two. Our game nights are a little callback to when we were young teens
I use sublingual tinctures (I don't like the smell of weed or want it on my clothes or house) before GMing, and it can be a massive help to selling characters and to improvisation. I've run some of my players' favorite sessions while absolutely blazed, and weirdly they don't notice when I'm high, like, I feel it should really be obvious and I have a particular straight edge player who calls me out on it when we play video games but just seems to have a good time when I GM. Couldn't explain it, to me, I feel like it'd be instantly noticeable if I'm high or not.
Because they are useless wrecks of humanity.
If you need to fuck up your brain chemistry on a daily basis with drugs or alcohol, you aren't fucking worth it. Kick all junkies, they will only drag you down. >Oh hey man, I gotta go feed my addiction so we have to stop everything til I do >Oh hey dude I gotta cancel cause I have to go do illegal & harmful shit relating to my drug habit. >Oh hey man mind if you hold/hide this illegal & harmful shit for me? I want you to risk your life for me >Sorry bro, I can't come because I OD'd in the Wendy's bathroom & almost died >hahaha man, you should do this harmful & illegal shit too. It's the best man. It's totally not because I feel nothing but shame & guilt by being the only failure of a human being in the room & so subconsciously seek to destroy others down to my level! >don't you know alcohol is like way worse? Don't be a hypocrite! Oh... you don't drink either? Haha you're no fun at all if you don't do illegal & harmful things on a constant daily basis >this illegal & harmful thing is a "disease". A pothead coughed on me in high-school & suddenly I was smoking joints against my will! >Did you know anyone can get this disease? Yeah, who would have thought that meth was bad for you?
It's not illegal in several states, and the federal government is delisting it from Schedule I so not even the DEA can fuck with you over weed. Also laughable that you think people are ODing on marijuana, retard.
>pothead insists that smoking weed helps him relax and get into the game >spends every night just kinda zoned out and fucking around until someone tries to involve his character >all interactions are very one-sided, with pothead just kinda going along with whatever's happening >he sobers up and leaves like usual >does it all over again next week
I've gotten high plenty of times, but I'm not a regular user by any stretch. I know how little thinking you actually do when you smoke a lot. The people doing it every day don't realize they've just dulled their senses and become so familiar with the feeling of being high that it doesn't even register to them anymore. It's not that it takes more to get high, it's that they're already high but they can't even tell how impaired they are. Similar case with booze. There's no such thing as "building a tolerance", only becoming numb to the side-effects. Unless you're some Andre the Giant-sized motherfucker, but that's just requiring a proportional amount to feel the same buzz as an average sized person.
Because they are useless wrecks of humanity.
If you need to fuck up your brain chemistry on a daily basis with drugs or alcohol, you aren't fucking worth it. Kick all junkies, they will only drag you down. >Oh hey man, I gotta go feed my addiction so we have to stop everything til I do >Oh hey dude I gotta cancel cause I have to go do illegal & harmful shit relating to my drug habit. >Oh hey man mind if you hold/hide this illegal & harmful shit for me? I want you to risk your life for me >Sorry bro, I can't come because I OD'd in the Wendy's bathroom & almost died >hahaha man, you should do this harmful & illegal shit too. It's the best man. It's totally not because I feel nothing but shame & guilt by being the only failure of a human being in the room & so subconsciously seek to destroy others down to my level! >don't you know alcohol is like way worse? Don't be a hypocrite! Oh... you don't drink either? Haha you're no fun at all if you don't do illegal & harmful things on a constant daily basis >this illegal & harmful thing is a "disease". A pothead coughed on me in high-school & suddenly I was smoking joints against my will! >Did you know anyone can get this disease? Yeah, who would have thought that meth was bad for you?
Potheads & junkies should be hunted for sport
Pot should be legalized solely so that it gives potheads nothing to talk about. There's a certain sort of retarded person that enjoys doing things solely because it's the wrong thing to do, and if you make it legal, that takes the "edginess" off of it for those people.
in the US pots pretty much free game everywhere and weed culture pretty much died out. Anyone that still makes weed thier personality gets shit on regardless if they support legalization or not.
the only one that gets a pass for it these days is snoop dog and Seth Rogan
I feel like it's fucked up that "lolweed" culture took over the use of what is otherwise actually something that has broad medical use. My poor old father-in-law had both his knees replaced in a surgery, and the only thing that actually makes them stop hurting some nights is to just smoke some weed. He gets upset though because "he doesn't want people to think he's a pothead". We always have to reassure him that it's completely fine.
Seth Rogan doesn’t get a pass from anyone over the age of 14.
Snoop does get a pass though.
This.
Snoop Dogg gets a pass but everyone else looks like a fucking idiot. Especially fucking Rogan. Anyone in this day & age who embraces weed is a fucking loser
Based. Especially this: >It's the best man. It's totally not because I feel nothing but shame & guilt by being the only failure of a human being in the room & so subconsciously seek to destroy others down to my level!
One of my friends basically made pot his only activity in life, and straight up every single time the subject is brought up in the context of someone else does it too, his eyes light up and his ears perk up. He only wants the validation that other people around him do it too.
Never really got this exalted level of tard-puritanism.
People were getting shitfaced and do harmful stuff for fun our whole history.
Booze and drugs are the most staple, but that's everywhere.
Weird fish or like just harmful food. What do you mean you enjoy cake? It's bad for you, moron.
Don't do anything potentially dangerous or ILLEGAL.
Sit in your crib like a good boy and don't go outside, mkay?
The bad boys will do all the fun things for you and throw you scraps. Sometimes.
Feels like Jorge wanted to be hardcore, but his mum didn't let him.
Btw, owning weapons is dangerous and illegal.
And hunting junkies too. You stay at home, baby.
Weed turned on of my old ttrpg friends into a complete fucking loser. Started in HS when he would ditch us for the cool kids (potheads). Slowly became more of a dick and would use us to drive him to get weed and wouldnt hang out unless pot was involved and by involved I mean us buying shit from him or his friends. Eventually he dropped out of college because he was too fucking lazy to go to class and became my roomates drug dealer while living with a literal only fans whore who kept cheating on him.
The dude was smart too and had a decent future but he just pissed it down the drain while blaming everyone but himself
>why are people like this?
Drug addiction to cope with psychological retardation.
Optimally various forms of medication, self prescribes or otherwise are an aid to give people some breathing room to sort their shit out internally so they can get to a point where they don't need the medication but most frequently it just becomes a crutch. There's good money to be had selling crutches and its easier to keep limping because its familiar.
>pothead insists that smoking weed helps him relax and get into the game >spends every night just kinda zoned out and fucking around until someone tries to involve his character >all interactions are very one-sided, with pothead just kinda going along with whatever's happening >he sobers up and leaves like usual >does it all over again next week
I've gotten high plenty of times, but I'm not a regular user by any stretch. I know how little thinking you actually do when you smoke a lot. The people doing it every day don't realize they've just dulled their senses and become so familiar with the feeling of being high that it doesn't even register to them anymore. It's not that it takes more to get high, it's that they're already high but they can't even tell how impaired they are. Similar case with booze. There's no such thing as "building a tolerance", only becoming numb to the side-effects. Unless you're some Andre the Giant-sized motherfucker, but that's just requiring a proportional amount to feel the same buzz as an average sized person.
What you call tolerance is just a dulled reaction to the effects of the drug. Heavy alcoholics who drink every day don't miraculously retain their mental capacity and coordination more than others. They're just more acclimated to that sensation and it does not register as strongly to their senses. They are still just as impaired, even if they think they aren't.
There is some truth in "you're used to the feeling" but the body ABSOLUTELY will gain a tolerance. You don't know what you're saying, this is medical fact. Bare minimum with alcohol and hard drugs. I don't see how it'd be different for weed.
Hard drugs and alcohol have the added effect of doing continuous damage to the organs and brain. Many prescription drugs run that risk too, but "tolerance" usually takes the form of pain killers not dulling the pain enough or doing damage to a person's nervous system, which only exacerbates their need for pain killers. In those cases, we're talking about someone's body breaking down and responding more weakly to a drug, not callousing their internal systems so they need larger doses to obtain the same effect they started with. It's either destroying the body or acclimating it to being dulled and impaired, but it's not a tolerance.
it's rarely "destroying" stuff, you can get your tolerance down on most drugs in a few weeks of not indulging. You have no idea what you're talking about are are basically arguing semantics because you don't understand what "gaining tolerance" means. I'm no longer engaging with your inane posts.
>associating with disgusting smoker trash
I would never. There's been several times at my LGS I've been paired against a guy who was just gone and so I got it put as a forfeit and he comes in all mad like "I was outside smoking" and I says "maybe you should've been here when pairings went up, retard"
Smokers need to all die
>take DM sanctioned smoke breaks in which everyone is welcome to partake in my smokey treats >take a few puffs during our piss and snack breaks
It's an easy way to bond with your group, and a small amount here and there is useful for some people to open up and roleplay and take risks in the game. Have had nothing but positive experiences when I bust it out with the group. We're all older so we're not impatient by default. A bunch of stoned middle aged men taking their RP seriously with time to think over their actions in combat and take risks with their characters is a wonderful thing.
>A bunch of stoned middle aged men taking their RP seriously with time to think over their actions in combat and take risks with their characters is a wonderful thing.
Yep, nothing like popping down to the dispensary for some pipeweed when you need a little break from adulting!
>A bunch of stoned middle aged men taking their RP seriously with time to think over their actions in combat and take risks with their characters is a wonderful thing.
Yep, nothing like popping down to the dispensary for some pipeweed when you need a little break from adulting!
Tolkien would smile at such a communal bonding experience.
Yeah because smoking pot is a conservative thing not a hippie liberal thing... we all know those pot loving fascist Bible thumping Trump voters, smoking a bowl before they protest abortion & form a lynch mob...
Well, there was that guy that smoked weed in that one Representative's office during the Totally-legal-Tour-Through-the-Captol-Don't-mind-the-busted-windows-&-Zipties-teehee.
Even worse is when the borderline retarded guy at the table feels the need to smoke weed and drink, so he goes from barely being able to play to needing 10 minutes for somebody else to walk him through his turn.
When I was in college, I had this group that INSISTED that I run games for them. All they'd do all week was talk about how great the game was gonna be, and "Ooh, I'm gonna make this character! And Oh I looked up magical items and-" Then when the game would start they'd all sneak outside to smoke, we'd get about 20 minutes of actual game started and then they'd just become fucking useless. They'd just continuously be like, "Uhhh... My character... Uhhhh.... He uh...." (That's actually not an exaggeration. It was like the Patrick ordering from the Krusty Krab meme,) and oftentimes they would fall asleep at the table. But then as soon as I'd get up to leave they'd all be like, "Wait! hold up! Hold on..." Shit was awful. Glad I didn't play with them long.
Despite this angry autistic mewling these joyless dry gays are all total nogames and so their screeching matters to no one irl at all since they don't actually play or run any games with people.
my only complaint is my GM has gotten into whiskey and for some reason and has no self-awareness to how he's trying to get people to engage him about it so he can tell them about it because he thinks it's so cool. But he doesn't share because he's caught between wanting to show off and the thing he's showing off being too pricey to casually share with a group. So even though I'm not the host I'm the one bringing drinks to share with the group.
Whiskey drinkers always get like this. Just get some beer and cider to offer your guests if you're drinking. Whiskey is a really lame hobby. Mix some cocktails or something impressive. Goddamn.
The longer I live, the more I realize older generations were right about everything >Maybe pot is a bad idea. Everyone who smokes it relies on it for everything and meanwhile they act fucking retarded when high. >Communism is bad. Not because it forces equal outcomes, but because it guarantees unequal outcomes where everyone comes out miserable. >People probably should go to church and read their Bible. I don't even believe in God but for fucks sake, use your frontal lobe to imagine metaphysical good, and try to pursue heaven on earth through good deeds, good thoughts, and good aspirations.
No, your kind of teenager has always existed, and you are acting your age. It's just that being the kind of teenager who thinks they're mature and thinks the mature perspective is the best one are always the most embarrassing kind of teenager, because they always fail. They can't be mature and they don't know what mature perspectives are actually like and the best they can hope for is parroting what they THINK mature people say without understanding why they might say it. Like although you should be careful with weed, and I personally oppose communism, and I don't have a problem with religion, the points here
The longer I live, the more I realize older generations were right about everything >Maybe pot is a bad idea. Everyone who smokes it relies on it for everything and meanwhile they act fucking retarded when high. >Communism is bad. Not because it forces equal outcomes, but because it guarantees unequal outcomes where everyone comes out miserable. >People probably should go to church and read their Bible. I don't even believe in God but for fucks sake, use your frontal lobe to imagine metaphysical good, and try to pursue heaven on earth through good deeds, good thoughts, and good aspirations.
are the kind of stupid shit a teenager would come up with.
You should be careful with weed because it can have genuine effects on your brain if you use it longterm, especially as a teenager. You should also be careful with it because it's a really effective way of quelling any unhappy thoughts and feelings you have without solving the underlying situation. But that anon doesn't know or think that. All they know is that their friends annoy them when they're high. Clueless. Everything about their post shows they just don't have much experience in life.
Your entire first paragraph is just projection and doesn't actually make a lick of sense when you compare it to real world.
Your second half is also retarded. Being annoying after intaking a substance should be plenty clue that the substance is not good for you, but you're acting like making this connection is stupid for some reason and quoting uncited studies like people should just recognize them.
D-.
Anyone who's older than a teenager remembers the friend who liked to pretend they were the mature one of the group, or the group of teenagers who thought they were unlike the other teens. And all of us realise how wrong they were.
Their reason for opposing weed is superficial and accidentally self centred to the point of being funny. People annoy me in lots of ways which don't matter. They've heard people they respect opposing weed, but they don't quite grasp why. They vaguely refer to people relying on weed for everything, but they don't know how that happens or why it's bad. It's not laudable to be this kind of teenager.
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Serious people were serious kids, you too are being judgemental out of butthurt and just invented a strawman.
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This guy
Serious people were serious kids, you too are being judgemental out of butthurt and just invented a strawman.
put it far more succinctly than I ever could, as well as this guy:
He doesn't care about the truth, he just wants to be seen as right. There's a lot of
obnoxious people ouke this in nerd cycles, and to them there is no greater insult as reaching the same conclusion they have without flowing the same track. The idea that he isn't the font of all knowledge threatens and infuriates the grog.
Your entire first paragraph is just projection and doesn't actually make a lick of sense when you compare it to real world.
Your second half is also retarded. Being annoying after intaking a substance should be plenty clue that the substance is not good for you, but you're acting like making this connection is stupid for some reason and quoting uncited studies like people should just recognize them.
He doesn't care about the truth, he just wants to be seen as right. There's a lot of
obnoxious people ouke this in nerd cycles, and to them there is no greater insult as reaching the same conclusion they have without flowing the same track. The idea that he isn't the font of all knowledge threatens and infuriates the grog.
>the kind of teenager who thinks they're mature and thinks the mature perspective is the best one
It's just Lisa Simpson, really. (before she went full woke)
I don't feel any need for God to be involved. If it helps people be goid to each other then great, but it's not necessary. All it takes is thinking 'would life be better if people were kind and respectful to each other?' 'would life be better if we tried to work towards the better world we all know this one could be, and ought to be?' It's really not that hard. Like, at all. It seems hard because we see the problems and imagine tge effects of our own personal efforts towards fixing them, but if most people could, for lack of a better term, strive towards not being dicks to each other, it would go a long way.
No retard. I am a former addict (gambling) you don't get over it, you just get as clear as you can of it. There is no "former" addict. Just clean addicts.
If you HAVE to smoke weed to have fun you need to stop smoking weed for awhile.
It’s supposed to be an ENHANCER of life, not the whole point of it.
I used to take one small lungful before sex, parties, artistic endeavors, or otherwise contemplative pursuits to relax and focus more deeply on savoring the experience in the moment. That doesn’t mean I HAD to smoke to relax or focus, only that it helped tremendously and the longer I went while maintaining this balance the less I found I had to smoke to be in that place.
My DM and half my group smokes while playing and I kinda hate it because they don’t seem to realize that while they are enjoying the sensation they’re actually not very focused on the game at all and it ends up being boring and repetitive for everyone else while they giggle and enjoy an otherwise banal experience.
I don't love weed, but if you're going to come down on it you probably should come down on alcohol too. I try to cut back through the rest of the week so that I don't feel guilty about drinking during my session and have something to look forward to. And it makes it more tolerable to be around other people.
The two issues I have with weed is that usually in a group if one person smokes it, they're going to smoke with someone else and there's a possibility you'll be the only weed-sober person in the group, and secondly people don't seem to learn moderation with weed.
A guy could get completely smashed & still contribute more to society & the game table than a pothead any day of the week
If you do an edible and are moderate about it or just take a hit or two right before the game and at the midway point, you should be no more impaired than someone drinking a few beers
Doing a few shots back to back or pregaming your drinking too much is just as bad tbh
Edibles, you mean those notoriously finicky things that people will OD (I mean overdosing in the actual sense, not always almost dying) on all the time because they either don't know the dose or they take too much? Ftfy
That is an absolute lie an you know it. I worked in a restaurant and cooks who are drunks are tossed out in favor of cooks who are methheads. A shitfaced man is as useless and disruptive as someone that is stoned out of their mind
If you do an edible and are moderate about it or just take a hit or two right before the game and at the midway point, you should be no more impaired than someone drinking a few beers
Doing a few shots back to back or pregaming your drinking too much is just as bad tbh
It really depends. I can smoke and be the best roleplayer at the table, but I can't DM on the stuff and keep track of everyone.
One dude at our table can be 50/50 though. When he used to smoke more he would be destroyed every second and take longer than he should for his turn (he's a mono barbarian player isnt even hard to say I hit the ogre) and just sit on his comp the whole session (digital character sheets are fucking awful, it gives everyon an excuse to just fuckoff on their laptops)
I joined a WHFRP game run by a very popular GM from my FLGS, and getting a spot is kind of a rarity for people outside his group of regulars; I only got a slot because it was at an awkward time. One of the players was a friend of the GM who, from the first few sessions, was smoking 3 joints a night. We were lucky to get 5 words out of him without going off on a tangent about how we should buy chickens at a discount price, take a riverboat down the Stir and take up farming near the border with Sylvania. He was completely disengaged and when we relied on him for anything, the game slowed to a crawl because he was so fried he couldn't make the simplest decision. The time of the game had to change again to a weeknight, and suddenly the same guy was sharp as a tac and incredibly proactive. The second the weekend starts, he's locked into this pattern of addiction where he smokes joints at the same time every day without an alarm or glancing at the time. Once he's high, he's honestly a complete asshole; the classic annoying, chuckling stoner and his friends just grin and bear it. I can understand wanting to escape reality for a time, but to NEED to fade into a near dissociative state for 48 hours at a time, just to deal with life, is so vastly more unhealthy than living with stress.
Smoking pot has always been a counter culture thing because it was forbidden but forbidden for no good reason. Its the easy way to demonstrate that you hate the establishment if you wanted to.
>why are people like this
I'm like this because I smoke pot before everything.
I do this because, sober, I am ill all the time. I was ill my entire childhood, and much of my adulthood, and given a rational choice of anti-nausea drugs, marijuana is the one with the least incredibly damaging long term side effects.
Some of that shit renders you half blind and unable to talk.
I have no issue with players smoking pot before or after the session as long as they don't disrupt the game. Same goes with booze. If someone gets disruptive, they get kicked out. Period. Worked well so far.
this comic is bullshit whenever I accidentally ate way too many edibles all it did was make me terrified for a few hours then sleep for like a whole day
>why are people like this?
Because they're miserable people when they're sober. >They never bring their own dice, they never bring their own character sheets
Why? They forgot, because weed destroys your memory. >They can barely remember what happened last session that was only a week ago
Why? They forgot, because weed destroys your memory. >They think you're lying when you say over the course of the 5 hours for the night we have to play, the first hour was spent shooting the shit and smoking weed, with another cumulative hour and a half spent on toke breaks and re-making the character sheets you lost.
Why? Because weed destroys your memory.
I don't touch the stuff, but I don't mind people who have a little drink or a little smoke to loosen up. The problem is that those people exhibit a rare amount of self control. The vast majority of people end up getting like 2-3 bowls and a few beers deep by that point in the night and are absolutely useless.
That's why so many millennial boomers these days like "Rules-Light" systems, or shit full of handwaving like 5e. They can pack a bowl, down a few beers, and zone out while the DM tells them a good story. It's perhaps even worse than something removing player agency, it's the voluntary relinquishing of it.
It helps when you have a lot of other shit worry about.
The game I'm in right now is scheduled right after I get off work. So I come in sore, tired, thinking about all the other shit I need to be doing. Having a drink or a smoke before we start helps to ease out of work mode and into fun.
I think drugs are as much a part of society as they are because of the increasing number of "floating problems" we have to deal with. Most of the shit we need worry about is sort of abstract. Appointments, repairs, health fluctuations, accounts, family gatherings, phone calls. Small activities that exist in the future that can't be addressed immediately but must hold solid points in our schedules. So modern person has to exist in constant state of preparing, preparing that they have to alone and any mistake will likely reset the process.
People want drugs (or games or media sludge) to force themselves into relaxation, or to enhance the experience of relaxation to the point that the wall of petty trouble actually seems worth it.
Of course there are people who are just good at managing shit or like managing shit and these are the people that set the standard of "normal" or "fit" that the rest of us have to keep up with. And to do that we have drugs.
I'm not saying that's a good thing, just that it's the most accessible tool outside of radical personal or societal change.
I don't smoke at all, but the very rare times when I've taken a little sip of schnapps have made me a lot less caring about possible hangups I have during session time. It's not like I'm getting shitfaced pre-session, and it's probably more of a placebo effect, but it's nice.
Back when I was in my early 20s, my players all did this. I banned alcohol and weed until at least after the game started, and it was a good compromise. I did have to do everyone's "math" for them though. Now my players are too old for that shit, so everyone plays a lot better.
I have changed my stance on weed legalization because of the smell.
Holy shit it's so vile, it even gets into a car when you're just driving past somewhere where someone lit up. At least make it illegal to do outside, you have no right to insult people's nostrils like that good lord.
Weed carries way further than tobacco but sure ban smoking in public too. Both my parents are smokers so I don't really associate the smell as bad but if it's half as shitty for other people as weed smells to me than yeah, get that shit away from public spaces.
Yeah fuckface tobacco is bad too you stupid drooling shitslurping fuck. Stop trying to justify your ignorance & your addiction. All bad things are bad.
>Just finished smoking an hour ago >gays are mad I exist
As all things should be. You're not original though, the far-left wants me dead just for existing too.
Me and my friend had a pal in our Shadowrun group. A verbose little guy. Played a Ninja. He was the one who described his internal monologue and his reactions in great detail like an anime character. When he did anything he would ask for details and details. He used twelve words when two would do. We liked him well enough, but he would go off and do his own thing very often in game and we would be stuck there in his story for ten minutes or so at a time.
One day, Me and my friend got up and went outside as his turn began and he went off on his adventure. We smoked a bowl, looked at the stars, listened to the crickets, and talked about our lives. We came back inside and his turn still wasn't done. We had a giggle and proceeded to refer to him as Smoke Break. Whenever Smoke Break went off to fiddle with electronics or try to stealth the compound alone, we would take a moment, and come back reeking of pot. It became such a meme that even non smokers would join us, just because it was funny having nearly the entire table get up and leave during his solo adventures. Smoke Break himself thought it was hilarious and we all got along until the campaign ended.
I don't like pot, and wouldn't bring a stoner to the table because he'd drive the rest of the group away, but it seems uncharitable to wish ill will upon them.
I will politely ask that people act less violent or extreme in this thread, it is not good for your concious.
It's all about state of mind, so as one might expect, a mind-altering drug could help enter the specific state of mind they need.
And I say this as someone who doesn't partake, because I become a worthless lump when I'm high or drunk.
>become
some people need help to get over their social anxiety or to suppress any innate stupid "I'm cringe for playing this" feelings.
I can't dm unless I've taken my gabapentin. Same thing.
I hope you all die.
Why?
he's larping as a puritain "all drugs and alcohol bad" idiot because he's too scared to disobey his parents and has associated those things with his political boogeymen.
People are so weak nowadays that they can't even play pretend without chemical assistance.
>People are so weak nowadays
>nowadays
I have been using GM juice for 25 years and i dont intend to stop.
Nothing like a shot to grease the squeaky cogs
I am not advising anyone to get shitfaced, but a round of shots make any game run much smoother.
you either started drinking too young or keep gming too old, possibly both
You were supposed to stop gming when you left college and do adult stuff
Found the Joyless-Jap. Try not to jump off any buildings before you're 45.
>tfw you'll never hold hands with a middle aged salaryman on the way down
Oh hey, I remember that thread from the other day, too.
>I am not advising anyone to get shitfaced
>Jägermeister
>0,35L
Yeah you would have to play solo to get shitfaced on that lol
Good taste, only thing that is better would be absinthe.
people were drinking and smoking for these games decades ago. I know you lived in a little DARE bubble growing up with parents telling you alcohol was the devil, but you're actually the odd one out here anon.
That's the same shit I have to give to my cat to make him be good at the vet
no I just like it
>gabapentin
Medfag here, just curious, which diagnosis? I work in neurology and we prescribe it for epilepsy, neuropathic pain and some cases of tremors, but never for anxiety. I know different countries have different guidelines. For example, here we use rituximab off-label for MS were in other countries it's a big no-no.
Americans started proscribing it for everything as an alternative to benzos and painkillers
>not just suffering through your anxiety around social situations.
I think a better question is, does it work? Because if it does, let them.
NTA but I had a player that smoked a little bit before every session (not enough to really notice he was high) but he was one of the best roleplayers I ever had. that being said I did have one player that would smoke his weed vape while playing and just be completely out of it by the time it ended and it fucking sucked playing with him he didn't really last.
I guess it depends on how you take it with moderation. I'm more of a beer guy so ill go with a beer example and I don't mind getting a little buzz or my players if it loosens them up but you can't be getting shitfaced
>I think a better question is, does it work? Because if it does, let them.
this
if it doesn't cause problems for me or others I don't give a shit what someone else does
Having played with a few stoners, this is something that varies. There's the guy who smokes because that is his priority and puts minimal energy into the session, and there's the guy who smokes because it's available and is the most engaged player at the table.
This. And hopefully you never get the type that went from engaged to useless over time.
Most of my sessions just devolve into drinking and smoking about 2 hours in
Some people just know they cannot handle social situations and need all the help they can get
I'd got work drunk if I didn't have to drive to get there
Not really "need", but as a social setting between friends, we usually share a blunt or two. Our game nights are a little callback to when we were young teens
I use sublingual tinctures (I don't like the smell of weed or want it on my clothes or house) before GMing, and it can be a massive help to selling characters and to improvisation. I've run some of my players' favorite sessions while absolutely blazed, and weirdly they don't notice when I'm high, like, I feel it should really be obvious and I have a particular straight edge player who calls me out on it when we play video games but just seems to have a good time when I GM. Couldn't explain it, to me, I feel like it'd be instantly noticeable if I'm high or not.
>Invents individuals to just be angry about something
Why are people like this?
Because they are useless wrecks of humanity.
If you need to fuck up your brain chemistry on a daily basis with drugs or alcohol, you aren't fucking worth it. Kick all junkies, they will only drag you down.
>Oh hey man, I gotta go feed my addiction so we have to stop everything til I do
>Oh hey dude I gotta cancel cause I have to go do illegal & harmful shit relating to my drug habit.
>Oh hey man mind if you hold/hide this illegal & harmful shit for me? I want you to risk your life for me
>Sorry bro, I can't come because I OD'd in the Wendy's bathroom & almost died
>hahaha man, you should do this harmful & illegal shit too. It's the best man. It's totally not because I feel nothing but shame & guilt by being the only failure of a human being in the room & so subconsciously seek to destroy others down to my level!
>don't you know alcohol is like way worse? Don't be a hypocrite! Oh... you don't drink either? Haha you're no fun at all if you don't do illegal & harmful things on a constant daily basis
>this illegal & harmful thing is a "disease". A pothead coughed on me in high-school & suddenly I was smoking joints against my will!
>Did you know anyone can get this disease? Yeah, who would have thought that meth was bad for you?
Potheads & junkies should be hunted for sport
It's not illegal in several states, and the federal government is delisting it from Schedule I so not even the DEA can fuck with you over weed. Also laughable that you think people are ODing on marijuana, retard.
I'm not just talking about pot you mind fried stoner fuck
>OP specifically talks about pot
>your post blends criticism of pot in with meth
You're a moron
Pot should be legalized solely so that it gives potheads nothing to talk about. There's a certain sort of retarded person that enjoys doing things solely because it's the wrong thing to do, and if you make it legal, that takes the "edginess" off of it for those people.
in the US pots pretty much free game everywhere and weed culture pretty much died out. Anyone that still makes weed thier personality gets shit on regardless if they support legalization or not.
the only one that gets a pass for it these days is snoop dog and Seth Rogan
Seth Rogan doesn’t get a pass from anyone over the age of 14.
Snoop does get a pass though.
I feel like it's fucked up that "lolweed" culture took over the use of what is otherwise actually something that has broad medical use. My poor old father-in-law had both his knees replaced in a surgery, and the only thing that actually makes them stop hurting some nights is to just smoke some weed. He gets upset though because "he doesn't want people to think he's a pothead". We always have to reassure him that it's completely fine.
This.
Snoop Dogg gets a pass but everyone else looks like a fucking idiot. Especially fucking Rogan. Anyone in this day & age who embraces weed is a fucking loser
Willie Nelson gets a pass aswell.
Cheech and Chong, too.
They'd still talk about it, just like winos and IPAfags do.
This, but about soda/junk food.
porque no los dos
It's okay anon, we don't care that you were homeschooled
>junkies should be hunted for sport
How many hours a day do you spend here, anon?
Based. Especially this:
>It's the best man. It's totally not because I feel nothing but shame & guilt by being the only failure of a human being in the room & so subconsciously seek to destroy others down to my level!
One of my friends basically made pot his only activity in life, and straight up every single time the subject is brought up in the context of someone else does it too, his eyes light up and his ears perk up. He only wants the validation that other people around him do it too.
Never really got this exalted level of tard-puritanism.
People were getting shitfaced and do harmful stuff for fun our whole history.
Booze and drugs are the most staple, but that's everywhere.
Weird fish or like just harmful food. What do you mean you enjoy cake? It's bad for you, moron.
Don't do anything potentially dangerous or ILLEGAL.
Sit in your crib like a good boy and don't go outside, mkay?
The bad boys will do all the fun things for you and throw you scraps. Sometimes.
Feels like Jorge wanted to be hardcore, but his mum didn't let him.
Btw, owning weapons is dangerous and illegal.
And hunting junkies too. You stay at home, baby.
Aw look the little junkie is mad cause he knows he's useless
It's so easy to make you tards mad by calling you out.
I'm not a trumpeter dumb fuck. I painted a picture of a modern conservative to juxtapose how it has nothing to do with weed
Take your medicine, you speak in babble.
That's clear English you illiterate chucklefuck
Weed turned on of my old ttrpg friends into a complete fucking loser. Started in HS when he would ditch us for the cool kids (potheads). Slowly became more of a dick and would use us to drive him to get weed and wouldnt hang out unless pot was involved and by involved I mean us buying shit from him or his friends. Eventually he dropped out of college because he was too fucking lazy to go to class and became my roomates drug dealer while living with a literal only fans whore who kept cheating on him.
The dude was smart too and had a decent future but he just pissed it down the drain while blaming everyone but himself
or maybe its cause you tried to rape his sister and it was the only way he could cope with what happened
>Potheads & junkies should be hunted for sport
The only problem is that it would be a really boring sport because they're all useless.
I bet you got your ass kicked by a stoner and that's where all your impotent rage comes from. Or did one steal "your" girl?
>why are people like this?
Drug addiction to cope with psychological retardation.
Optimally various forms of medication, self prescribes or otherwise are an aid to give people some breathing room to sort their shit out internally so they can get to a point where they don't need the medication but most frequently it just becomes a crutch. There's good money to be had selling crutches and its easier to keep limping because its familiar.
>pothead insists that smoking weed helps him relax and get into the game
>spends every night just kinda zoned out and fucking around until someone tries to involve his character
>all interactions are very one-sided, with pothead just kinda going along with whatever's happening
>he sobers up and leaves like usual
>does it all over again next week
I've gotten high plenty of times, but I'm not a regular user by any stretch. I know how little thinking you actually do when you smoke a lot. The people doing it every day don't realize they've just dulled their senses and become so familiar with the feeling of being high that it doesn't even register to them anymore. It's not that it takes more to get high, it's that they're already high but they can't even tell how impaired they are. Similar case with booze. There's no such thing as "building a tolerance", only becoming numb to the side-effects. Unless you're some Andre the Giant-sized motherfucker, but that's just requiring a proportional amount to feel the same buzz as an average sized person.
>retard with no idea how the body builds a tolerance to things
What you call tolerance is just a dulled reaction to the effects of the drug. Heavy alcoholics who drink every day don't miraculously retain their mental capacity and coordination more than others. They're just more acclimated to that sensation and it does not register as strongly to their senses. They are still just as impaired, even if they think they aren't.
There is some truth in "you're used to the feeling" but the body ABSOLUTELY will gain a tolerance. You don't know what you're saying, this is medical fact. Bare minimum with alcohol and hard drugs. I don't see how it'd be different for weed.
Hard drugs and alcohol have the added effect of doing continuous damage to the organs and brain. Many prescription drugs run that risk too, but "tolerance" usually takes the form of pain killers not dulling the pain enough or doing damage to a person's nervous system, which only exacerbates their need for pain killers. In those cases, we're talking about someone's body breaking down and responding more weakly to a drug, not callousing their internal systems so they need larger doses to obtain the same effect they started with. It's either destroying the body or acclimating it to being dulled and impaired, but it's not a tolerance.
it's rarely "destroying" stuff, you can get your tolerance down on most drugs in a few weeks of not indulging. You have no idea what you're talking about are are basically arguing semantics because you don't understand what "gaining tolerance" means. I'm no longer engaging with your inane posts.
>Lose argument
>"Well I never!"
NTA but lol.
Biology expert coming through here.
tolerance building is real and applies to nearly anything psychoactive... your thinking sessions cannot change that
Of course you build tolerance. That doesn't negate anything else you said.
You tell me. Do you also need a little push of kush to go ask him directly instead of asking randos?
I don't associate with narcs, so I really wouldn't know.
>Hey guys I have no personality so I'm gonna take mind altering substances so I can be around people...
Hey guys is this a problem?
Kick him out or shut the fuck up and stop seething
>associating with disgusting smoker trash
I would never. There's been several times at my LGS I've been paired against a guy who was just gone and so I got it put as a forfeit and he comes in all mad like "I was outside smoking" and I says "maybe you should've been here when pairings went up, retard"
Smokers need to all die
>take DM sanctioned smoke breaks in which everyone is welcome to partake in my smokey treats
>take a few puffs during our piss and snack breaks
It's an easy way to bond with your group, and a small amount here and there is useful for some people to open up and roleplay and take risks in the game. Have had nothing but positive experiences when I bust it out with the group. We're all older so we're not impatient by default. A bunch of stoned middle aged men taking their RP seriously with time to think over their actions in combat and take risks with their characters is a wonderful thing.
>A bunch of stoned middle aged men taking their RP seriously with time to think over their actions in combat and take risks with their characters is a wonderful thing.
Yep, nothing like popping down to the dispensary for some pipeweed when you need a little break from adulting!
Tolkien would smile at such a communal bonding experience.
yeah well i think tolkein SUCKS!!
I'm not saying that if you smoke pot you should go to jail but I do hate all pot smokers
I hate sjws like you but I'm not trying to kill them gay
not like pot makes someone... a sjw????
man you need to go outside, you are clearly spending too much time here
Yeah because smoking pot is a conservative thing not a hippie liberal thing... we all know those pot loving fascist Bible thumping Trump voters, smoking a bowl before they protest abortion & form a lynch mob...
Well, there was that guy that smoked weed in that one Representative's office during the Totally-legal-Tour-Through-the-Captol-Don't-mind-the-busted-windows-&-Zipties-teehee.
>muh laws
Who cares about legality, hedonists are pieces of shit.
Bootlicking progressive retards are the ones who like pot Anon.
Because they're degenerate addicts.
OP pic made me lose The Game.
While I agree that heavily altering your mental state over and over again probably isn't healthy, you puritans need to lighten the fuck up.
fuck off and die you slippery slope gay
I'm too old to eat pizza
Even worse is when the borderline retarded guy at the table feels the need to smoke weed and drink, so he goes from barely being able to play to needing 10 minutes for somebody else to walk him through his turn.
Because smoking weed is fun and they like to have fun
When I was in college, I had this group that INSISTED that I run games for them. All they'd do all week was talk about how great the game was gonna be, and "Ooh, I'm gonna make this character! And Oh I looked up magical items and-" Then when the game would start they'd all sneak outside to smoke, we'd get about 20 minutes of actual game started and then they'd just become fucking useless. They'd just continuously be like, "Uhhh... My character... Uhhhh.... He uh...." (That's actually not an exaggeration. It was like the Patrick ordering from the Krusty Krab meme,) and oftentimes they would fall asleep at the table. But then as soon as I'd get up to leave they'd all be like, "Wait! hold up! Hold on..." Shit was awful. Glad I didn't play with them long.
Despite this angry autistic mewling these joyless dry gays are all total nogames and so their screeching matters to no one irl at all since they don't actually play or run any games with people.
my only complaint is my GM has gotten into whiskey and for some reason and has no self-awareness to how he's trying to get people to engage him about it so he can tell them about it because he thinks it's so cool. But he doesn't share because he's caught between wanting to show off and the thing he's showing off being too pricey to casually share with a group. So even though I'm not the host I'm the one bringing drinks to share with the group.
Whiskey drinkers always get like this. Just get some beer and cider to offer your guests if you're drinking. Whiskey is a really lame hobby. Mix some cocktails or something impressive. Goddamn.
I mean to be fair we've always had it that host supplies the room/game. Guests bring the food. Host will supply tea/coffee and basic refreshment.
The longer I live, the more I realize older generations were right about everything
>Maybe pot is a bad idea. Everyone who smokes it relies on it for everything and meanwhile they act fucking retarded when high.
>Communism is bad. Not because it forces equal outcomes, but because it guarantees unequal outcomes where everyone comes out miserable.
>People probably should go to church and read their Bible. I don't even believe in God but for fucks sake, use your frontal lobe to imagine metaphysical good, and try to pursue heaven on earth through good deeds, good thoughts, and good aspirations.
The only thing more insufferable than zoomers is zoomers who pretend to be boomers. Get the fuck over yourself.
>ACT YOUR AGE BUCKO, WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE NORMAL?!
Congratulations, you've become your parents.
No, your kind of teenager has always existed, and you are acting your age. It's just that being the kind of teenager who thinks they're mature and thinks the mature perspective is the best one are always the most embarrassing kind of teenager, because they always fail. They can't be mature and they don't know what mature perspectives are actually like and the best they can hope for is parroting what they THINK mature people say without understanding why they might say it. Like although you should be careful with weed, and I personally oppose communism, and I don't have a problem with religion, the points here
are the kind of stupid shit a teenager would come up with.
You should be careful with weed because it can have genuine effects on your brain if you use it longterm, especially as a teenager. You should also be careful with it because it's a really effective way of quelling any unhappy thoughts and feelings you have without solving the underlying situation. But that anon doesn't know or think that. All they know is that their friends annoy them when they're high. Clueless. Everything about their post shows they just don't have much experience in life.
The best thing about the young and vicious is how they terrify equivocating worrywarts like you.
This is a non sequitur. You didn't read my post.
Anyone who's older than a teenager remembers the friend who liked to pretend they were the mature one of the group, or the group of teenagers who thought they were unlike the other teens. And all of us realise how wrong they were.
Their reason for opposing weed is superficial and accidentally self centred to the point of being funny. People annoy me in lots of ways which don't matter. They've heard people they respect opposing weed, but they don't quite grasp why. They vaguely refer to people relying on weed for everything, but they don't know how that happens or why it's bad. It's not laudable to be this kind of teenager.
Serious people were serious kids, you too are being judgemental out of butthurt and just invented a strawman.
This guy
put it far more succinctly than I ever could, as well as this guy:
Your entire first paragraph is just projection and doesn't actually make a lick of sense when you compare it to real world.
Your second half is also retarded. Being annoying after intaking a substance should be plenty clue that the substance is not good for you, but you're acting like making this connection is stupid for some reason and quoting uncited studies like people should just recognize them.
D-.
He doesn't care about the truth, he just wants to be seen as right. There's a lot of
obnoxious people ouke this in nerd cycles, and to them there is no greater insult as reaching the same conclusion they have without flowing the same track. The idea that he isn't the font of all knowledge threatens and infuriates the grog.
>the kind of teenager who thinks they're mature and thinks the mature perspective is the best one
It's just Lisa Simpson, really. (before she went full woke)
Worse than Lisa, honestly. At least Lisa was depicted as knowing why she thought the things she thought.
Honestly, this. Every aspect of it. The older I get, the more I see we have fallen from God.
I don't feel any need for God to be involved. If it helps people be goid to each other then great, but it's not necessary. All it takes is thinking 'would life be better if people were kind and respectful to each other?' 'would life be better if we tried to work towards the better world we all know this one could be, and ought to be?' It's really not that hard. Like, at all. It seems hard because we see the problems and imagine tge effects of our own personal efforts towards fixing them, but if most people could, for lack of a better term, strive towards not being dicks to each other, it would go a long way.
Anybody who needs delusions to purse 'good deeds and good thoughts' ought to have no place in society.
And no, trying to force equal outcomes is utterly evil, egalitarians are deranged. Don't argue from consequences like some utilitarian.
that was similar to my first pot experience, but i took them from the fridge and didn't know what happened till months later
you're a drug addict
i haven't had any in years, but ok
A person can murder people, then never kill for the rest of their lives, yet they are still a murderer. Once an addict, always an addict
Cringe and tardpilled.
No retard. I am a former addict (gambling) you don't get over it, you just get as clear as you can of it. There is no "former" addict. Just clean addicts.
If you HAVE to smoke weed to have fun you need to stop smoking weed for awhile.
It’s supposed to be an ENHANCER of life, not the whole point of it.
I used to take one small lungful before sex, parties, artistic endeavors, or otherwise contemplative pursuits to relax and focus more deeply on savoring the experience in the moment. That doesn’t mean I HAD to smoke to relax or focus, only that it helped tremendously and the longer I went while maintaining this balance the less I found I had to smoke to be in that place.
My DM and half my group smokes while playing and I kinda hate it because they don’t seem to realize that while they are enjoying the sensation they’re actually not very focused on the game at all and it ends up being boring and repetitive for everyone else while they giggle and enjoy an otherwise banal experience.
I don't love weed, but if you're going to come down on it you probably should come down on alcohol too. I try to cut back through the rest of the week so that I don't feel guilty about drinking during my session and have something to look forward to. And it makes it more tolerable to be around other people.
The two issues I have with weed is that usually in a group if one person smokes it, they're going to smoke with someone else and there's a possibility you'll be the only weed-sober person in the group, and secondly people don't seem to learn moderation with weed.
Weed? But whataboutism alcohol?
Doing a shot never disrupts the game. Leaving the room to smoke & coming back unable to think straight will ruin the night
>smoking a full doobie is the same as taking a shot
you dont know enough to make a proper comparison. stop talking about shit you know nothing about.
A guy could get completely smashed & still contribute more to society & the game table than a pothead any day of the week
Edibles, you mean those notoriously finicky things that people will OD (I mean overdosing in the actual sense, not always almost dying) on all the time because they either don't know the dose or they take too much? Ftfy
That is an absolute lie an you know it. I worked in a restaurant and cooks who are drunks are tossed out in favor of cooks who are methheads. A shitfaced man is as useless and disruptive as someone that is stoned out of their mind
That's only because meth speeds you up. So for line cooks that's a better possitive.
If you do an edible and are moderate about it or just take a hit or two right before the game and at the midway point, you should be no more impaired than someone drinking a few beers
Doing a few shots back to back or pregaming your drinking too much is just as bad tbh
>OP needs to make the same thread on every board
Why are you like this?
how else do you get into character while playing a high elf?
Wouldn't it be more of a wood elf thing?
Hippies and REAL naturefags are rarely potheads or junkies. Occasional partaking notwithstanding
Puritanical gay
No alcohol, drugs or snacks at my sessions.
We often have dinner together after playing.
It really depends. I can smoke and be the best roleplayer at the table, but I can't DM on the stuff and keep track of everyone.
One dude at our table can be 50/50 though. When he used to smoke more he would be destroyed every second and take longer than he should for his turn (he's a mono barbarian player isnt even hard to say I hit the ogre) and just sit on his comp the whole session (digital character sheets are fucking awful, it gives everyon an excuse to just fuckoff on their laptops)
I joined a WHFRP game run by a very popular GM from my FLGS, and getting a spot is kind of a rarity for people outside his group of regulars; I only got a slot because it was at an awkward time. One of the players was a friend of the GM who, from the first few sessions, was smoking 3 joints a night. We were lucky to get 5 words out of him without going off on a tangent about how we should buy chickens at a discount price, take a riverboat down the Stir and take up farming near the border with Sylvania. He was completely disengaged and when we relied on him for anything, the game slowed to a crawl because he was so fried he couldn't make the simplest decision. The time of the game had to change again to a weeknight, and suddenly the same guy was sharp as a tac and incredibly proactive. The second the weekend starts, he's locked into this pattern of addiction where he smokes joints at the same time every day without an alarm or glancing at the time. Once he's high, he's honestly a complete asshole; the classic annoying, chuckling stoner and his friends just grin and bear it. I can understand wanting to escape reality for a time, but to NEED to fade into a near dissociative state for 48 hours at a time, just to deal with life, is so vastly more unhealthy than living with stress.
don't trannies smoke weed these days
Smoking pot has always been a counter culture thing because it was forbidden but forbidden for no good reason. Its the easy way to demonstrate that you hate the establishment if you wanted to.
Rent free.
I saw a thread with this exact topic and a bery similar question on /co/, what are you doing OP?
>why are people like this
I'm like this because I smoke pot before everything.
I do this because, sober, I am ill all the time. I was ill my entire childhood, and much of my adulthood, and given a rational choice of anti-nausea drugs, marijuana is the one with the least incredibly damaging long term side effects.
Some of that shit renders you half blind and unable to talk.
I have no issue with players smoking pot before or after the session as long as they don't disrupt the game. Same goes with booze. If someone gets disruptive, they get kicked out. Period. Worked well so far.
this comic is bullshit whenever I accidentally ate way too many edibles all it did was make me terrified for a few hours then sleep for like a whole day
Because no one stops them.
>why are people like this?
Because they're miserable people when they're sober.
>They never bring their own dice, they never bring their own character sheets
Why? They forgot, because weed destroys your memory.
>They can barely remember what happened last session that was only a week ago
Why? They forgot, because weed destroys your memory.
>They think you're lying when you say over the course of the 5 hours for the night we have to play, the first hour was spent shooting the shit and smoking weed, with another cumulative hour and a half spent on toke breaks and re-making the character sheets you lost.
Why? Because weed destroys your memory.
I don't touch the stuff, but I don't mind people who have a little drink or a little smoke to loosen up. The problem is that those people exhibit a rare amount of self control. The vast majority of people end up getting like 2-3 bowls and a few beers deep by that point in the night and are absolutely useless.
That's why so many millennial boomers these days like "Rules-Light" systems, or shit full of handwaving like 5e. They can pack a bowl, down a few beers, and zone out while the DM tells them a good story. It's perhaps even worse than something removing player agency, it's the voluntary relinquishing of it.
when I play high charisma characters I take stims and it somehow works.
It helps when you have a lot of other shit worry about.
The game I'm in right now is scheduled right after I get off work. So I come in sore, tired, thinking about all the other shit I need to be doing. Having a drink or a smoke before we start helps to ease out of work mode and into fun.
I think drugs are as much a part of society as they are because of the increasing number of "floating problems" we have to deal with. Most of the shit we need worry about is sort of abstract. Appointments, repairs, health fluctuations, accounts, family gatherings, phone calls. Small activities that exist in the future that can't be addressed immediately but must hold solid points in our schedules. So modern person has to exist in constant state of preparing, preparing that they have to alone and any mistake will likely reset the process.
People want drugs (or games or media sludge) to force themselves into relaxation, or to enhance the experience of relaxation to the point that the wall of petty trouble actually seems worth it.
Of course there are people who are just good at managing shit or like managing shit and these are the people that set the standard of "normal" or "fit" that the rest of us have to keep up with. And to do that we have drugs.
I'm not saying that's a good thing, just that it's the most accessible tool outside of radical personal or societal change.
I don't smoke at all, but the very rare times when I've taken a little sip of schnapps have made me a lot less caring about possible hangups I have during session time. It's not like I'm getting shitfaced pre-session, and it's probably more of a placebo effect, but it's nice.
Back when I was in my early 20s, my players all did this. I banned alcohol and weed until at least after the game started, and it was a good compromise. I did have to do everyone's "math" for them though. Now my players are too old for that shit, so everyone plays a lot better.
potheads say this and then proceed to do absolutely nothing and be a total wallflower for the whole campaign
I have changed my stance on weed legalization because of the smell.
Holy shit it's so vile, it even gets into a car when you're just driving past somewhere where someone lit up. At least make it illegal to do outside, you have no right to insult people's nostrils like that good lord.
Tobacco smoke isn't any more pleasant to your nostrils unless you're into it either.
And tobacco is ducking nasty too.
Weed carries way further than tobacco but sure ban smoking in public too. Both my parents are smokers so I don't really associate the smell as bad but if it's half as shitty for other people as weed smells to me than yeah, get that shit away from public spaces.
>Whataboutism tobacco
Yeah fuckface tobacco is bad too you stupid drooling shitslurping fuck. Stop trying to justify your ignorance & your addiction. All bad things are bad.
pure tobacco is alright, the tobacco-based chaff rolled in cigarettes is nasty
He's just an addict and this is yet another excuse
Stoners should get a bullet in the back of the head
potheads are annoying but so are moral grandstanding fags who complain about them.
>Just finished smoking an hour ago
>gays are mad I exist
As all things should be. You're not original though, the far-left wants me dead just for existing too.
But anon, you are the far-left you pot-smoking hippie.
Me and my friend had a pal in our Shadowrun group. A verbose little guy. Played a Ninja. He was the one who described his internal monologue and his reactions in great detail like an anime character. When he did anything he would ask for details and details. He used twelve words when two would do. We liked him well enough, but he would go off and do his own thing very often in game and we would be stuck there in his story for ten minutes or so at a time.
One day, Me and my friend got up and went outside as his turn began and he went off on his adventure. We smoked a bowl, looked at the stars, listened to the crickets, and talked about our lives. We came back inside and his turn still wasn't done. We had a giggle and proceeded to refer to him as Smoke Break. Whenever Smoke Break went off to fiddle with electronics or try to stealth the compound alone, we would take a moment, and come back reeking of pot. It became such a meme that even non smokers would join us, just because it was funny having nearly the entire table get up and leave during his solo adventures. Smoke Break himself thought it was hilarious and we all got along until the campaign ended.
Good times, those were.
Pot heads aren't people
I don't like pot, and wouldn't bring a stoner to the table because he'd drive the rest of the group away, but it seems uncharitable to wish ill will upon them.
I will politely ask that people act less violent or extreme in this thread, it is not good for your concious.
You sound like a square OP. Go join them. Fucking gay.