>Player wants to be a Gnoll
>"OH hey player that's cool did you know there masters at fenting and psychological warfare on top of eating the corpses of thier heroes and powerful enemies as a sign of respect and reverence?
>Proceeds to roll a Gnoll Fighter named Jim that just goes in and rolls to hit every turn and isn't into cannibalism essential just playing a human and his gnoll heritage is in name only
What's the point in playing different races with cultures and traditions if most players ignore them just to roleplay as different skinned humans?
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Curious explain to me how the problem of people being shitty roleplayers is a Dungeons and Dragons only problem. Also I don't play DnD anyways
What system was this gnoll fighter made in?
Sounds like Pathfinder
Because D&D (and it's derivates) is the only game where faints and such are a waste of a turn instead of being implemented into the attack roll itself. In good games, there is no "just rolls to hit".
>Curious explain to me how the problem of people being shitty roleplayers is a Dungeons and Dragons only problem.
Not an only D&D problem but as it is the most popular system you are at a higher chance of meeting worse players in it.
Just turns out the most populated areas are more likely to have the most amount of morons congrats
Really the OP ousted it as a D&D issue when he mentioned Fighters having literally nothing special to do in combat, the shitty roleplayer bit is just implied for playing the blandest, most basic-b***h system
I don't know about dnd gnolls but the description sounds exactly how Gnolls act in Pathfinder
He's clearly talking about PF Gnolls.
PF is a DnD variant, frick off.
Regardless it's still clearly a role-playing issue and not one baked into the system itself
Tried
Being a republican
When you get out of high school and can play with people who aren't morons, problems like these go away.
>t. just began the third campaign in the fourth historical era of my homebrew sci-fi setting with a rotating cast of ~12 great roleplayers who always take shit seriously
I envy you
What’d you expect
>I envy you
Literally all I've done is self-select. Play with good people, don't play with shitters.
Being a troony helps. SJWs are big on knowing lots of other people and connecting with them, and they're all willing to take playing pretend very seriously.
So what you’re saying is I can have a group like that to if…
What I'm actually saying is that antisocial behavior, imageboard usage, and reflexive contrarianism makes for worse players than folks who aren't that.
So where do I get started if transitioning will get me better players
Find a big discord. Offer to run some games. Give repeat invites to the players you like and politely decline any players who did a shit job. After a handful of one-shots, you should have a core of people who can be trusted with simple maths and sincere roleplaying.
Do dis although I prefer more niche or tight knit discords typically ranging to 500-1000 active users.
>niche and tight knit
>minimum 500 active users
<_<
I say this because most of the time in these servers only like 20 people are active on said server consistently.
>imageboard usage
You're being groomed
post bussy, i'll be your dungeon master
>Anon has an issue
>Lol just stop playing with morons!
Believe it or not most people are morons, probably including you!
>frick you, got mine
Go to hell.
People usually don't want to have their character partaking in cannibalism even when that action would be culturally appropriate.
Yeah if they’re a fricking pussy, getting to play as a war criminal is like the best part of ttrpgs (except the sex kind that’s just awkward)
>(except the sex kind that’s just awkward)
Yeah, sounds to much like the basic military service.
>he doesn’t graphically RP war-rape with his players
Heh, armatures
Then why choose a cannibalistic race?
Maybe they chose the race for different reason. Besides it's not like eating their own makes bulk of their diet, it's an ocassional ceremonial thing.
Says you
I played a gnoll once, and literally it turned into a bit of a running gag that the party kept dragging my character away before he could grab any dead bodies.
We call them b***hes, when I played a Thri-Kreen I never let good meat go to waste no matter how much the rest of the party complained.
You'd almost never run into circumstances to be a cannibal as a gnoll. You'd have plenty of chances to consume the flesh of weaker races, though. Don't pick the character if you can't roleplay.
Fantasy races are all dumb af. 99% of the time even experienced players just play them as human. Humans cannot accurately conceive of non-human experience. At best they play them as humans with a different life circumstance or culture.
>What's the point in playing different races with cultures and traditions if most players ignore them just to roleplay as different skinned humans?
The stat block. He wanted what ever numerical bonuses and abilities that gnoll was offering. That's what these players want in about 95% of cases.
If you take away all the stat blocks and tell people they can play what ever race they like, there is just no bonus for it, then the vast majority of people will just happily play human. They never wanted to play a freakshit race, but their inner min-maxer demanded it of them.
Is literally the opposite of this. The only time it is mechanically advantageous to pass up humans' free feat is for very specific builds that relate to the race's normal culture.
A good min-maxer will be halfway to role playing their character's race correctly before they ever get to the table.
I got to have a whole cannibalism moment involving gnolls in my game awhile back. It was the gnolls being eaten, but hey, almost there.
A winter fae in a skinsuit that started hanging around the party helped them kill gnolls and wanted to know what they tasted like.
As a few other components of the party are similar beings. (Albeit ones born into that state, thus this guy's interest in them. Kind of a 'fascinated by the lives of people who never leave their spacesuits,' situation,) one of them is also hard-wired to eat random things for curiosities sake, so at least took him aside and instructed him how to be discrete about eating people.
Not that anyone present really considered gnolls people in any meaningful way, but best teach him good habits now.
Why would someone play a gnoll for any reason aside from being a furry futa?
Seriously, female hyenas have penises
Look it up
They're not real penises
They're bigger than male hyenas' real penises.
In a group that allows that I would definitely play that.
No, only one species, the spotted hyena have a 'pseudo-penis', not all species of hyena. Considering that most depictions of gnoll seem to most closely resemble the strandwolf rather than spotted. chances are female gnolls have pretty normal genitals.
Oh I am well aware
People forget that there was a different anime that aired an episode about a futa hyena girl the same week as that episode
Killing Bites introduced yet another one in the manga
>What's the point
Better toughness, better strength, duh.
Some people just want to play the game, dude.
No! People are only allowed to play if they play correctly!
Who gets to decide what counts as correct play? That's a stupid question.
If only the standardized correct way to play was codified in a set of rule, and those rules written in some book. A book of rules. That book could then be copied and distributed. Wouldn't that be handy?
My character is a fennec-fox kitsune. I just wanna be a funny little fox guy. (He is, however, the smallest character in the party, at a minuscule 4'11".)
Though, I did add a little bit on top of that, namely that he speaks "Fennec-ese" (actually just toki pona in everything but name) and can use his large ears for a form of sign language that involves twitching them around like a pair of semaphore flags
Based and comicrelief-pilled
Also he's canonically a gamer (his arcane focus is a Duel Disk and his spellbook a deck of cards) and during a zone-of-truth interrogation (not meant for him, mind you) casually admitted that when he was 6 years old he was playing dragonchess against a friend and ate the pieces when the friend wasn't looking
>use his large ears for a form of sign language that involves twitching them around like a pair of semaphore flags
I've had squirrel people do this with their tails, but somehow this never occurred to me.
Now I'm remembering when I played an Advanced Gnoll, a Flind.
Named Errol
Yep, Errol (the) Flind
Was a swashbuckler
Was he a pirate? Was his surname Blood?
Pirate who needed a ship so he wasn't yet a Captain, but yes he used Blood as a surname though spelled it Blud because Common is hard.
Magnificent.
because fantasy creatures are at the end of the day functionally just humans in costumes
>Player wants to be a Gnoll
>"No"
The correct way to handle the situation.
>no fun allowed
>r*ddit spacing
okiedokie nogame
>just to roleplay as different skinned humans?
Have you tried not playing DnD or Pathfinder?
>What's the point in playing different races with cultures and traditions if most players ignore them just to roleplay as different skinned humans?
There has never *been* a point; pre-made anything is pointless because players will *always* put their own spin on the thing. Next time, let the players determine what the world and people are like.
There's putting your own spin on it and then there's just being boring fricks
Did he at least play on the fact that he wasn't like the rest of his kind ? Or that his kind was misguided and is redeemable ? Any of those could justify a normal acting gnoll in a relatively interesting narrative, otherwise, kill him
Nope him and his family are more less just regular humans that happen to he gnolls rp wise. Nothing interesting or subversive about it
Have you ever played on this, showing npcs be distrustful, racist or straight up panicked ?
Gnolls are among my favorites because you can name them kurd the ankle biter or gash the guts stealer without raising an eyebrow, you can also do Italian/Korean mafia or Cartel Gnolls if your setting allows it
The fun part about them is not the cannibalism but their pragmatic approach to solving problems since 90% of the time you have a justification to either use the threat of violence as a persuasion tactic or just outright violence, the other 10% is just as fun if you know how to bounce of your party, Gnolls are violence with purpose the weird template to be a "smart" murder hobo without being disruptive
This fixation with eating corpses is kinda dumb, you do it because it's a survival option not a fetish thing, I'd rather play it off as being able to eat almost everything in survival situations, playing a Gnoll survivalist and scout is also fun, I also think it's fine if that one guy just wanted to be a cool hyena and roll damage, part of the fun of being a Gnoll is combat since you can theoretically go balls deep with a charge and get away with it, frick it one of my best campaigns was as a war cleric Gnoll that wanted to keep the conflict going so his clan could sell more weapons you don't need to be that deep to have fun
So it's just a tiefling situation where he wants to be a Hyena instead, let him be a hyena then, not everything has to be about character development or character arcs
This seems like the least bad thing that could happen when a player wants to play a gnoll.
Kick 4d
Don't play with women
Playing the bog standard, generic stereotype for a race is boring as frick.