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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yikes

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does nobody care about final fantasy anymore?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They do, they just don't want their final fantasy to feel like generic AAA modern garbage

      I can't play turn-based games

      Tough break, once you see how structured and balanced they are, it's more fun to either strategize to overcome X challenge, or grind until you're so stupid strong you just obliterate X challenge, as opposed to out flailing the opponent, then follow up with a empty and unfulfilling QTE

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is the problem, the games feel extremely generic as action-adventure slop. The cinematic combat isn't enough of a substitute for the features and depth they're taking out. They completely went in the wrong direction with these games. Thank god dragon quest stuck to the formula. That series would be toast too if they turned it into action-adventure slop

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What depth is missing from the combat?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Years of snoygger exclusivity and shitty "modern" character design will do that.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nomura is a company-ruiner. Giving him the reigns for over a decade produced nothing but dead cash cows and a kingdom hearts teaser where haley joel osment wakes up in his tokyo sugar daddy groomer's living room.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He only ruins Final Fantasy, and I'm pretty sure he's doing it on purpose because he's still salty about Versus XIII.
        Kingdom Hearts and TWEWY were ruined by factors beyond his control.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >kingdom hearts ruined by factors beyond his control
          yeah I'm sure disney made it so there were 13 Xehanorts
          >TWEWY ruined at all
          moron

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            KH3 is bad because of Osaka team being unable to make games fun

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah I'm sure disney made it so there were 13 Xehanorts
            The story is not the problem. The early games are still fun even if you don't care about the story. The problem is the team that made the first two KH games were cannibalized to make FFXV (Square has a reputation of doing this, just look at all the projects that were gutted just to get FFVIII finished faster) then dissolved immediately after, leaving KH3 to be made by the same shitters that made BBS. KH3 was shit, and KH4 is likely to be no different. None of this was Nomura's doing.
            >TWEWY ruined at all
            Square released the TWEWY sequel deathly close to a major Persona release. With no advertising. Shockingly, it did not perform well. Once again, out of Nomura's hands.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Square-Enix keeps making them exclusive to a failed console.
      There's no reason FFXVI and FFVIIR shouldn't have been multiplat day 1. Square-Enix is taking the easy Sony bribes at the expense of long-term sales. It's a terrible business model but they are moronic and short-sighted.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        THIS. this is what people don't understand. If square had put FF7 Rebirth on xbox, that's ten million copies sold JUST IN JAPAN alone.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It lost momentum during and after PS2. It never recovered after 13.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really, X is the only other good one after the SNES and PS1 days and even still it's not AS good as the older ones. You're right that 13 killed them though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.

        The series went over a decade between 12 and 7R for a game that didn't suck, and even then 7R wasn't universally loved.

        >7 fricking years later and Mario Kart 8 is still a best seller
        how the FRICK

        Mario Kart 8DX is typically one of the first games you get when buying a Switch.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        X and XII were already mediocre.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It just isn’t that great of a series when there is no nostalgia.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How come shit like Pokemon is still going strong then?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They have the people who frick animals audience.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Final Fantasy is Dead.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There hasn't been a single decent entry for over 20 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FFX is 23 years old
        Holy frick... I need a moment to process this. Christ, I'm getting old

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          there was a day i was playing mgs4 or rather it was just there on the tv, one of the best days of my life through drugs even i remember the whole day and because of that it doesnt feel that long ago, then ill see the year mgs4 came out and its like damn thats so long ago but then that memory hits. getting old blows

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        XIV

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mmoshit doesn't count.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        12, 13-2, LR were really enjoyable games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      xenoblade and persona are just better

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >xenoblade
        LOL
        >persona
        if you like a shitty visual novels with piss easy combat maybe

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >complaing about atlus milking persona
          >while defending an FF7 title
          what causes this level of moronicness?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            shatlus are the ones who day one dlc (cut content) on all their garbage

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the soul is gone

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they never innovated past FF12

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The normal person cycle
      >"wow this game's art looks incredible"
      >*buys the game*
      >*the game is turn based*
      >"I thought this was an ARPG with real-time combat"
      >*refunds the game*
      >"maybe the next one"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FF was at its most popular when it was turn based
        >current FF is regularly outsold by turn based games
        normalgays don't play games, they buy them when they hear it's popular and trendy then don't touch them

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This, I have a normie friend and he has not finished a single game in years, yet he keeps getting hyped up and buying whatever is popular at the moment

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Louis Vuitton can sell $10,000 handbags, why can't we?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          name one turn based game that sold more than FF 15 or FF7 Remake
          I will fricking wait you dumb piece of shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            persona 5

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >regularly
              >names a game that released on Playstation 3 and has been re released dozens of times on every platform
              have a nice day you fricking shit stain

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why does nobody care about final fantasy anymore?
      Why doesn't Square Enix make Final Fantasy anymore?
      I still care. Square Enix clearly don't though.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody has been given a reason to care about Final Fantasy in almost 25 years.

      Look at OP alone, it's coasting off the good will of a game that came out in the 90s.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everyone is waiting for PC

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am waiting for Final Fantasy to be Final Fantasy again.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're such a homosexual no series has changed more than final fantasy. There is no traditional FF.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah. It's not like they did 11 games in a row with the same genre or anything.
            Before proceeding to do both MMOs and action games instead.

            The latter is clearly JUST AS traditional as the former. Clearly!

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              turn based is not a genre

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good thing they had more in common than simply being turnbased then.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1-9 had a very recognizable formula and the same essence despite the gradual glow-up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no good game since the 90s. bravely almost replaced it but dropped the ball hard with second's JP release

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      platform exclusivity. By the time it reaches other platforms there is no hype/marketing therefore no one cares.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The games are TOO BIG Bigger than fricking Ridley

      LESS IS MORE

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        FF games are always big. Big games still work all the time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Big as in budget? Yeah. Big as in content? No, Tales games blow them out of the water with that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Filler Optional Sidequests are okay I guess, mandatory filler just sucks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Console Exclusive

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nobody asked for it to be Kingdom Hearts-ified

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, holy shit this

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pic
          I hope they just throw in Mickey Mouse at this point. Frick the fans, frick the franchise, frick'em all

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Final Fantasy isn't JRPG anymore.
      It's like you made a Fighting Game with Fifa characters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Japan.
      Means jack shit, not even nips care about console gaming anymore.

      Its juvenile and it feels like it was written for tweens. You've got a small army of grown men in their 30's and 40's eating it up and everyone else that didn't grow up with it looks at it with a kind of curious disgust.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They insisted on moving away from turned based and it blew up in their face.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Their franchise killer (FFXIII) was turn based. It's clearly far from the problem

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they suck and the ff7 remake especially has been a massive disappointment.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SE suffers from George Lucas syndrome when it comes to the Final Fantasy franchise. No one has the balls or authority to tell the creative leads that their ideas are shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I miss Sakaguchi. The best tard wrangler SE ever had.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im not buying a PS5 for one game

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      13, 13-2, lightning returns, 15, and 16

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because they peaked with X and then tried experimenting a little too much
      now they just make garbage action games instead of JRPGs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The man responsible for the soul of the franchise retired and didn't leave any notes.
      Now it's just another corporate cashcow with no flavor or artistry, managed by elderly japanese men who for some reason are allowed out in society without a tard wrangler.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      been going downhill for the last 23 years

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I gave them X-2 and 11 when I really shouldn’t have. Sequels and MMO ruined the prestigious reputation FF had before that. 12 was a complete mess and put them on thin ice with me. And 13 was the final straw. Their games haven't been good since FFX in 2001. That's over 20 years now. Zoomers don't even remember a time when FF was good... that's why no one cares anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Final Fantasy has sucked for 20 years. X was the last good mainline title. XV was the final nail in the coffin. Remake and Rebirth are a true return to form though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spend two decades shitting all over your series
      >why does nobody care anymore :'(

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >10-2
      >shitty FF7 Compilation
      >13 trilogy no one asked for
      >ruined the only interesting entry from the gayula Nova Crystalis and turn it into 15
      >puppet around 15 corpse for years with DLC and tie ins
      >FF7 bait and switch Demake
      >release the most bland uninspired entry in the whole series with 16
      >now Unbirth
      I feel bad for zoomers, they basically grew up with nonstop shitty FF. No telling what Square will do after they stop raping 7

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >No telling what Square will do after they stop raping 7
        Their gacha shovelware is floundering and they barely do any third-party at this point after thoroughly fricking up with Marvel.
        They'll never die but I wouldn't be surprised if they wind up liquidating down to just having a DQ team and an FF MMO.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They will rape 9 next
        I had a dream that I saw the reveal of FF9 remake and it looked like a lower budget shitty version of the Trials of remakes with real time combat
        I'm convinced that was a vision of the future

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trials of mana remake was the best rpg of 2020 though, I still replay it sometimes

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Boomer franchise unironically
      Also PS5 exclusive
      People these days rather dating and gacha
      Plus it came 15 years too late
      It will do well as soon as they release the trilogy collection for everyone though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >20 years of bad games
      >Gee, why won't anyone buy the latest entry????
      Literally how slow are you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There hasn't been a good game in the series in over 20 years.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True. There also hasn't been a good game in the series ever.
        >Series is based around strategically picking moves from a list
        >Series consistently punishes you for trying to pick 80% of the moves in the list
        >Series has had status effects and gimmick moves since the very first game
        >>Is so bad at balancing them it just unilaterally makes all bosses and harder than averege enemies immune to them

        [...]

        an entire genre forever because it failed to understand the FUNDAMENTALS of the genre

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Many factors.
      - FF is not being the juggernaut anymore that carries systems
      - the loud core fanbase is just a tiny minority now
      - PS5 exclusivity
      - weebs going to Switch
      - sequel to an old game (for zoomers)
      - game simply feels like any other Japanese rpg
      The first issue is the biggest. A few decades ago FF was enough to influence the average player when they picked a system up. It was enough for someone to buy a system just for a single game. This is not the case anymore. There are much much much more games available even in the same genre than before. Triple As before were multiple categories higher quality in every way possible. FF stick out from the average JRPGs. Now AAA's got into the sticky situation where what they do is marginally better than the average and the market is over-saturated. Yeah FF7R2 looks good at first glance but it isn't that good to run and buy a PS5. Most people simply don't care. There are tons of other games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't think of an rpg that is similar to rebirth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Squenix is shit for a long time now and they put out some horrendous FF games in the past decade.
      It all really started with 13

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Final Fantasy 7 fatigue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >haven't made a good game in 20 years
      >entire console generation wasted makimg lightnings game
      >15 years to release XV
      >XIV 1.0
      >FF7 remake isn't a remake at all
      SE is the one who doesn't care.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's not a remake

        And yet every character and location is true to its original. Lavishly remade. The soundtrack alone is a lock for best of the year it has more love put into it than entire other games.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shut the frick up you blatant shill.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Stay mad. Goty btw.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Part 3 is never coming out.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Massive delusion. It's already half made.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      13 15 and 7R were beyond abysmal
      13 failed to gather a new audience since now newcomers think that the games play themselves and have 20 hour long tutorials
      15 killed everyone's faith in SE due to how moronic it was
      7R killed oldgays

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yoshitpiss killed FF

      >not showing that 7 Rebirth has more overall sales

      Barry, this is sad

      7R is doing good over here

      >7 Rebirth sold less than Tekken 8 in the US
      >Tekken 8 only sold 2m worldwide
      This implies 7 Rebirth is either below 2m or just at 2m

      Those are terrible numbers
      >

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        homie I play Tekken 8 and even I know you can't compare a competitive online game being in more platforms with the opposite of that
        You don't even give a crap about Tekken 8, nor UO
        Stop dragging other fanbases against your ff psicosis

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the point is it sold less than tekken 8 which is an indictment against 7r2 because ff has historically never sold less than tekken

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I play dumb because I know I'm wrong
            I accept your concession

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Historically FF in its prime didn't sell less than Zelda either when aligning launch dates, then in the last decade we saw FF15 selling 10 million and BotW (which came out a few months later) later selling 31 million.
            Final Fantasy has been failing to keep up with the growing video game market for a long time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tekken 8 only sold 2m worldwide
        it said more than 2 million.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      13

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it comes down to a combination of multiple factors in my opinion, including
      >the games haven't been FF games since like FF9-10 (story, character design, gameplay, muh graffix focus, muh mature overall package, barely any humor), basically they stopped following the formula that made them successful in the first place, and that means older fans just stopped caring
      >the games have been generally mostly exclusive or timed exclusive to Sony consoles, which was maybe good in the PS1-2 days but fricked them over after that due to the consoles not doing as good
      >the above two points also mean younger generations didn't grow up with FF since, for the last 15-20 years, the series has been trying to target at the same "adult" oldgay audience that grew up with the games but also dwindles game generation after game generation, they never really managed to get the kids of gen x and millenials on board
      >their obsession with presentation (rather than content) means the budget and time necessary to make the games exploded with the transition to HD, forcing them to cut a lot of all the stuff that gave the older games soul, and, of course, shrink the overall scale of the games strongly, making them way more linear, less towns, less NPCs, you name it.
      i believe sony and square's obsession with graphics and movieshit that started with FF7 killed FF in the long run, and i don't see them reversing that trend in the future, at least when it comes down to the final fantasy series. maybe they'd have a shot with a brand new IP.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only games that have been exclusive in recent years iirc was just 7r and 16. But you are right in that square's vision of these games has scaled back immensely. FFS they couldn't even remake an entire PS1 game and had to split it up. Block buster games with menial or outright bad or drawn out content.
        >the series has been trying to target at the same "adult" oldgay audience that grew up with the games but also dwindles game generation after game generation, they never really managed to get the kids of gen x and millenials on board
        This I disagree with because the FF games for the last 20 years have not been made for fans in the slightest. The last FF was 10 in both execution and spirit. They've been trying new things for years trying to attract new blood and failing.

        Final Fantasy 7 fatigue.

        Also this. Holy shit I am tired of seeing 7 all over the goddamn place. It's like the equivalent of seeing green hill zone in a sonic game but even more obnoxious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >27 days later
      >still no official Rebirth sales announcement
      grim

      >4 years ago
      >Covid affecting Remake physical shipments
      >lol Remake BOMBED
      >Present day
      >Sales not even 1/3rd of rebirth sold. Let alone 1/8th of Remake
      >uhhhh Fatlus just didn't ship out enough copies ok, doesn't count.

      Nobody has a PS5

      have a nice day micropenis homosexual. We all know it's you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Square Enix is run by morons (Except the Dragon Quest guys)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      too much censorship, too much wokeness

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it failed to carve a niche for itself like Persona, Xeno and Trails did. It tried to remain the le epic cinematic RPG forever and consequently fell into irrelevance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FF games used to come out yearly, now it's once a decade.
      Do the math.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FF13 did unheard of damage to the brand combined with the fact that it simply takes them too long to get new games out. We had what, 3 snes games, 3 ps1 games, 2 PS2 games, 1 Ps3 game and then just two more games since then? Both with questionable reception?
      Not including any of the MMOs for obvious reasons.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FF13 did unheard of damage to the brand
        Which is funny when it ended up being so massively influential.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so massively influential
          it´s just greed to appeal to as much morons as possible. abandon anything "complicated" or controversial so you cant offend anyone.
          make encounters auto wins, polish up the visual and that´s what you get.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like you care a lot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too many of them, and shoddy advertising

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not turned based, OP literally shows you this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      last one that lived up to the final fantasy name was X in 2001, 23 years ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Massive identity crisis. The games are incapable of keeping a consistent genre. I love the old turn-based ones so I don't care about any of the newer ones and I guess the same can be said about the MMO players who only care about 14. I can assume they have no interest in the newer games as well.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Current Final Fantasy reminds me of Halo, where they tried to change direction in gameplay and art style which caused controversy, and now we're at a point where people who grew up or first played the newer shit want more of new shit while older fans want to play the classic formula.

      Then the fan feedback combined with the out of touch vision from the developers ultimately leads to the franchise having an identity crisis, pleasing almost no one, resulting in what was once a huge franchise in gaming falling into obscurity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ATB killed the series

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no one cares about FF
      >most replied to post I've seen this week

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People just wanted an HD FF7 game, not whatever abomination this shit is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The joke is that they're called "turn-based" games, but it turns out they're not based at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here's your based game

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AYO CLOUD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody fricking asked for 4 homosexuals on a roadtrip.
      Nobody fricking asked a DMC game with FF flavor.
      And nobody fricking ask them to rewrite a cult classic.

      All I want is a comfy game about a group of people from all walks of life get together for an adventure that is larger than life.
      I don't give a frick about the battle system, I don't give a frick about graphic and cinematic quality.

      When is the last time we got a FF character lineup that consist more than humans/humanoids?
      FF9?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And nobody fricking ask them to rewrite a cult classic.
        I asked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody fricking asked for 4 homosexuals on a roadtrip
        Those 4 homosexuals are unironically the best party in the franchise, the one party that actually interacts and has chemistry with each other. Shame they're trapped in a weak entry.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because FF10 was the last Final Fantasy game.
      Everything that has come out after has been either an mmo that shouldn't count, or, you fricking tell me what the last three have been

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dead IP since FFX

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >13 was a trilogy of three shitty games in a row for no reason other than the director wanting to frick lightning for nearly 5 years straight
      >14 is an mmo and no sane person cares about mmos in the current day
      >15 was ruined by the most pants on head moronic production known to man with cancelled dlc and the game's actual true ending put into a fricking novel
      >16 was more simplistic than fricking kingdom hearts and tried to rope in the psueds who suck off tlou and gow instead of its actual audience
      You tell me, even 12 for its detractors has people willing to stump for it, even the yoshitpiss cultists who defend 16 can't fricking play the thing since they have no ps5s and saw lets plays

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >call it FF7 Remake
      >its not a FF7 remake
      WOOOOOWW WHY ISNT IT SELLING WOOAAAHH HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOOOWWW

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        but 7 Remake did gang busters
        Rebirth isn't selling because it's stuck on PS5 just like 16

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gangbusters
          lmao no, it did shit compared to what it would have dont if it was an actual remake

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't play turn-based games

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >57k total
    >298k total
    What’s your point here?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      new IP vs 30+ year-old franchise that used to sell 2+ mil copies on launch in japan ALONE

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >japan ALONE
        oh dang
        How about the world wide sales then?
        Surely UO is dragging rebirth through the mud then?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >not showing that 7 Rebirth has more overall sales

          Barry, this is sad

          7R is doing good over here

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Show YTD, coward.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He cropped it because it shows Stillbirth getting btfo by Tekken 8 which only has like 2m sales.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rebirth is 2 on that list.
                Tekken is 5 on that list.
                Case closed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >less total sales than kekken 8
                part 3 is getting cancelled lolol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, but it’s going to be on a shoestring budget.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm looking forward to seeing just how low they can go.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >7 fricking years later and Mario Kart 8 is still a best seller
                how the FRICK

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It came out on Wii U in 2014
                Shittest Mario Kart btw

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >January game BARELY beats February game in YTD sales
                this actually means we're winning even more.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what'd you win?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hogwarts Legacy still in the top 10.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this is more a testament to how fricking good of a game T8 actually is.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nintendies unironically believe part 3 won't happen

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Throw yourself in front of a train

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Grim.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >rebirth is literally taking 2 of the top 10 spots in sales for the February.
            Abortionsisters, we were too wienery..

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >second copy outsold by suicide squad
              Dont hold your breath lmfao

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why haven't they revealed sales numbers yet? I'm not barry, and I intend on buying it on steam since I didn't like how it performed on my ps5.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why do they have to release sales numbers? This idea that any game that doesn't have it's sales revealed is a flop will never not be fricking stupid. Plenty of games release sales numbers bragging about them that actually severely underperformed.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They immediately did so for 7 remake and XVI. It's weird that they haven't yet. I'm not dooming nor am I trying to console war here.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And? Why do they need to release sales numbers? Why is it weird for them to not do so?

                SE is always eager to announce when FF games are selling well. Their complete silence on Rebirth is really strange.

                Except XVI according to SE themselves performed below their expectations so clearly they didn't "announce it selling well". There is no trend here. There is no logic to deduce. You're just being a schizo and making shit up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude no one is fighting here. It's just odd that they've chosen total silence. I could understand if it was something like dragon quest treasures or a final fantasy spin off, but this is a mainline game.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No it isn't fricking odd. Plenty of games don't announce sales numbers and heck the ones that do announce them at wildly different times, sometimes it's day 1, week 1, month 1 or fricking year 1 or anything in-between. There is nothing weird about them not announcing sales. If you want my personal opinion I'd imagine that they want to announce the sales on it's biggest high and with the game being pretty consistent in selling instead of the usual of games selling most all in the first day or week. They probably want to wait to announce the sales when the game stops selling decently and starts to decline.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'd imagine that they want to announce the sales on it's biggest high and with the game being pretty consistent in selling instead of the usual of games selling most all in the first day or week
                lmao now you're just coping. Final Fantasy games are the definition of frontloaded. They all drop like 90% from week 1 to week 2.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can clearly see that Rebirth is still in the top sellers despite the fact that it's been out for over a month now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What does that say about overall console sales though? Don't forget that the PS5 has a worse software sales through rate than even the wii. I'm hoping it picks up because I want more games like stellar blade.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean Stellar Blade was beating Rebirth in preorders when Rebirth was just about to come out and that game was probably made on like 1/10 the budget so that should be fine.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SE is always eager to announce when FF games are selling well. Their complete silence on Rebirth is really strange.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cus announcing 3m sales of 16 wiped out billions in stock and Rebirth did worse.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I worry it's because they don't have the console bundles to help inflate the numbers this time around.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >remake rebirth twin pack also in the top ten

            Hey that's the one I bought. Great idea by square to package the first game in for free. Played that demo and saw that deal and went from mildly interested to pre ordering.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >selling better than a CoD game that was ranked 1 the previous month and is still ranked 3 after being out most of that month despite selling on the last day if the month
            Yup, total flop. Completely dead franchise.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you factored in Rebirth and the double pack, would it outsale Helldivers?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No. Helldivers 2 outsold Rebirth globally.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What if Japanese zoomoids just have shitty taste in video games.
        Ever consider that genius?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        one is a switch game

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          and? you're telling me final fantasy is no longer as popular as zelda?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          UO has a PS and Xbox release as well

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >physical units

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Digital download didn't exist when the game sold 2mil+ copies. Idk the percentages and I don't assume its even close to 2mil, but its obviously much more than 298k when factoring in digital purchases.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon this is a thread about jap sales. Outside of the growing pc gaming scene digital sales are a small percentage of overall sales.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy cope the majority of ps5s on the market are digital only.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon really? I don't care about console wars. I have a pc and a ps5. But that's stupid. Especially in a japanese sales thread.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but its obviously much more than 298k when factoring in digital purchases.
          No it isn't. The average digital ratio is like 30%.
          Even if you assume the game to be an outlier, the digital sales are hardly bound to make that big of a difference.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You better believe that the 57K was probably the vast majority of copies available. It sold out fast.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >4 years ago
        >Covid affecting Remake physical shipments
        >lol Remake BOMBED
        >Present day
        >Sales not even 1/3rd of rebirth sold. Let alone 1/8th of Remake
        >uhhhh Fatlus just didn't ship out enough copies ok, doesn't count.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Covid affecting Remake physical shipments
          ???

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You can't actually be that new.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            moron.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lower development cost.

      Turn-troons are clamoring to PS5 **PHYSICAL** sales numbers for Japan, because they have nothing else.

      How the hell did FF16 outsell FF7R in Japan? Also, why the hell is Elden Ring sales so low?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How the hell did FF16 outsell FF7R in Japan?
        Because everyone already played remake and thought it was shit on top of not actually being a fricking remake.
        >maybe the sequel will be better!
        nah

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >How the hell did FF16 outsell FF7R in Japan?
        It didn't, you're just guillible. When compared by totals or time frame, FF7R dwarfs it. Using the logic in the OP every game after 2013 have outsold GTA V globally.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Japan
    yawn

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but its not a turned based game you stupid fricking Black person

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The combat in UO is turn-based. The strategy part is RTWP.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You just watch shit happen in UO after programming AI. They give all the results before battles

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your argument is disingenuous and you’ve never played the game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm trying to go into UO as blind as possible, but broke for a few weeks. Am I right in assuming the gameplay is one part ogre battle one part fire emblem?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It’s all part Orge Battle with a Fire Emblem veneer

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Excellent. Thank you anon

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wouldn´t really equate it to fire emblem.
          What makes FE, FE is a quadratic grid with a 100% turnbased ruleset while UO does not have a grid to move your units around, you move around the maps real time while you can pause inbetween to command new orders to your units. There´s nothing FE about it and before anybody says what about the weapon weakness shit, it´s not exclusive to FE.
          You can fully compare it to OB though.

          Also game is fricking easy, even on the hardest difficulty.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            UO is so much better than FE I swear

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              > UO is so much better
              UO is a shit game

              > story is animeslop friendship beats bad man
              > "tactics" is base around OP items

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >> story is animeslop friendship beats bad man
                >> "tactics" is base around OP items
                Not that anon. But you described FE to a T. But UO does it a lot better.
                I like both UO and FE though.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>> story is animeslop friendship beats bad man
                >>> "tactics" is base around OP items
                so cod?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Did it seem to you that i put FE on a pedestal? I also think that UO is way more interesting than FE, everything around it. From the exploration, over the story up to every single "auto"battle.
              It´s well put together and give the old vibes of playing a decent vidya and going on a adventure while I couldn´t play the 2 latest FE for more than 2 hours.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hillbilly Jim, it's turn based on initiative.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >do literally nothing
      >this is turn based combat
      do turn based gays really?

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    will stillbirth finally pass smrpg's launch sales this week?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought and played both

    Rebirth is the better video game.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turn-troons are clamoring to PS5 **PHYSICAL** sales numbers for Japan, because they have nothing else.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lower development cost.

      [...]
      How the hell did FF16 outsell FF7R in Japan? Also, why the hell is Elden Ring sales so low?

      And FF16 poor sales lost Square 2 Billion in value. FF7 Rebirth sould even worse than 16! You can't make this shit up!!!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Forspoken Flopped so badly that not even FF16s strong sales could pull SE out of the hole it left
        Grim

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why does japan love spidey so much

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was bundled with the console and sony counts it as sales even though they gave it away for free

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's a pretty staggering lead for both FF games on that list, like they are 100K+ ahead of fromsoft games, especially if thats just on PS5.

      Whats the problem here? is Ganker having schizo illusions about Square going bankrupt again?

      I will say though, they need to do away with exclusivity.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Whats the problem here? is Ganker having schizo illusions about Square going bankrupt again?
        some people just want shit to fail, that's just Ganker looking for tortanics now. but yeah, PS5 exclusivity is just moronic and 336k in only Japan for a single system game is fricking terrible

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >60k vs 300k
      kek, sega released 3 shit games in one month and they all got mogged.

      mogged my ass

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Considering a game that was released two years ago currently has more players than two games that came out 1-2 months ago is pretty sad

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cope post
          just means people didn't care enough to beat it and that's how many people are dragging their feet cause it was a chore

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >people still belive JP is relevant
      Tiny island nation is not relvant anymore to global sales when you have plenty of americans eating up numbers
      Its the whole reason why capcom is just funneling DEI into there games.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tiny island nation
        The third largest vidya market globally.
        And the biggest producer of videogames in terms of number of videogames produced.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    After this massive btfo i would just delete the thread sis...

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >27 days later
    >still no official Rebirth sales announcement
    grim

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't.
    Have you seen the unicorn strategy threads lately? They've all been about cooming to the artwork and talking about how they want to "breed elf pussy"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As if Rebirth homosexuals have any room to talk. Those quasi-general threads are just the same handful of posters making the same posts with the same images over and over and over.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about digital? As many people if not more buy digital now so I'd like to see the total sales for both across all platforms. I was thinking of getting Unicorn physically (waiting for PC for Rebirth)

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isnt uo on ps5 and xbox?
    well ps5 i dont think japs care for xbox

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kazushige Nojima is a genius, despite all the shit he gets.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are his teeth like that? Is he part British?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, his full name is Nojima Vi Britannia.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop posting like that.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >niche studio that have literally no money and 20 employees
    >The most anticipated remake in gaming history with a >$200,000,000 budget

    HOW do you frick FF up this bad?

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >60k vs 300k
    kek, sega released 3 shit games in one month and they all got mogged.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Look at this homosexual posting Steam player counts without realizing PC isn't the primary platform where these games get their sales.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      turnbased won again...

      shit sega games won... again...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >already at $40
        holy fricking grim I didn't realize demake was that bad

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Based Sega, making Ganker homies go into autistic rage fits so much this year already.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SEGA!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >is so poor they have to milk the few cult members they have left
          eat up goyslop pay piggy

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous
        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I kneel SegaChads

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            namco raped your shit company lol

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I love how tendies immediately jump to another company as soon as someone defend a company lmao

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Calm down Schizo

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                cope.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              lol do namco fanboys even exist? i don't remember a single good game they've ever made

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          shame about those sonic games thoughever

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hate you gays. concurrent players isn't total sales.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trimming out the part where demake has never had more than 12000 concurrent players while both of the other games had like 4x as many at launch

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >while both of the other games had like 4x as many at launch
        day one pc launch and it got outsold by a noname gacha shit game kek. no wonder sega is so poor

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon granblue is not some "noname gatcha" . Remember that sega has said most sales lately have been pc. Concurrent players doesn't equal total sales.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >noname gacha
          Granblue has made more money than your favorite game.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cope. the miku gacha makes more than every game sega shits out though

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    turnbased won again...

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God I hate this boards obsession with sales numbers and player counts. You gays are so miserable and it shows. Is the game GOOD? Is it an enjoyable experience? No discussion about the game just shit flinging with twitter screenshots.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop going to sales threads and obsessing over sales

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. twitter user

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t. butthurt saleslet

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sales figures are the sports teams of millenials

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My guy FF is a household title where sales are a direct indicator of the games quality

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        NTA but how convenient, as soon as a ff game sells you start blaming normies

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That only matters when normies jump on a franchise's ship which has happened long ago for FF and they're now part of the playerbase, problem is if even the normies aren't gobbling it up it's THAT bad

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Normies have been off FF since the end of ps1 and probably sooner. I have never considered any jrpg a normie game.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Then you're delusional

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't know FF14 was the best one

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    at this rate I can't wait to see how bad metaphor flops.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now do the PS5 sales numbers of Unicorn.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fantasy
    >no sexy child

    why do westerners cause this

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >game with accessible gameplay is popular
    Shocking

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >turn based game
    How? It's an automatic battle game lmao you don't even control any characters in combat. YOU LITERALLY JUST SEND A PARTY TO FIGHT OTHERS WHILE YOU WATCH THE ANIMATIONS. REPEAT. KEK.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You see, the funny and ironic thing here is that you just described both games

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >YOU LITERALLY JUST SEND A PARTY TO FIGHT OTHERS WHILE YOU WATCH THE ANIMATIONS. REPEAT. KEK.
      It's almost as if moving the characters and selecting their actions is the game. Not just of Unicorn Overlord, but the entire genre.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DisGAYa is the Mcdonalds of turn based games

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok. But what I said applies to the entire genre.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Isnt that idle?

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Got 150 hours in Rebirth and 30 in UO. This is a great year for video games

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No idea how happy it makes me that Unicorn Overlord (a good game) is selling so well

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japan doesn't own ps5's the entire country is switch only master race.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Switch
      >Master Race
      Tendie leave

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Brown doomposters should kill themselves.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >#2 game in the US
      >#2
      first off, lmao most anticipated remake ever btw

      second, what's #1?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Coomershit 9: The Encoomering

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Helldivers 2, Rebirth did launch on the last day as well.

        They'll announce 4.5 million copies sold after a month I reckon, it's deffo sold more than 16.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >actually lost launch month to a no name AA game
          either ff7's remake fricked up that hard or truly no one gives a shit about final fantasy anymore. no question. it's be like if tears of the kingdom lost launch month to a new vermintide game or some shit.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >either ff7's remake fricked up that hard
            It did. They dramatically underestimated how many people felt like they got conned with the "Remake" bait and switch. Those people are never coming back and Rebirth undoubtedly lost another chunk with that botched ending.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Trying to downplay the actually insane levels of success Helldivers 2 has received just because Rebirth lives rent free in your head is incredibly pathetic anon.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What are you even talking about there is zero overlap between FF players and helldivers players. There are zero people who bought he'll divers thinking it's either this or rebirth.

              It's the online gaming era. Helldivers isn't the first viral online game this year and won't be the last one.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice deflection but that has nothing to due with it. Rebirth being below Helldivers 2 is not because Rebirth underperformed but because Helldivers 2 insanely OVER performed. Get your facts straight.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon, it has been more than one month since Rebirth came out and SE is still SILENT.

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Game is fun
    >Game has pretty girls
    It's literally just that easy and it transcends genre.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is why surveys exist and shit like that.
    Most players are happy with turn-based games but somehow individual marketers and developers become convinced that they're hated and never think to check their work and find out if it is even true or not.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Most players who play turned based are. Most gamers aren't. They wanted to attract a new audience with final fantasy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That new audience doesn't exist.
        Final Fantasy has been one of the largest franchises in the medium for like 30 years. It isn't about to 'blow up' more all of the sudden.
        Beyond that, you're losing as many as you gain like that.

        And again, why do you think that most gamers don't like turn-based combat?

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope this means atlus can force these homosexuals to release a pc version. I have a pc, switch and a ps5, but I refuse to buy it elsewhere since they clearly don't want my money.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm emulating it on the PC and it's great.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      UO outsold every physical game.

      No idea how happy it makes me that Unicorn Overlord (a good game) is selling so well

      I miss old FF
      I miss old square
      I miss old japanese soul

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Final Fantasy 9 HD Overhaul in Late 2025 (outsourced)
    >Kingdom Hearts 4 in Late 2026 (CBU1)
    >Final Fantasy X Remake in Early 2027 (outsourced)
    >Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 3 in Early 2028 (CBU1)
    >Final Fantasy X-2 Remake in Early 2029 (outsourced)
    >Final Fantasy 17 in Early 2030 (CBU2)
    >Verum Rex in Late 2031 (CBU1)
    >Final Fantasy X-3 in Early 2032 (CBU1)
    >Final Fantasy 5 Remake in Late 2033 (Team Asano)
    >Final Fantasy 6 Remake in Late 2034 (Team Asano)
    >Luminous Productions (the team behind Forspoken) has been disbanded, and the individual devs are now scattered all over CBU1/2/3/4/5.
    >The Team behind FF16 has been disbanded and the individuals devs are now scattered all over CBU1/2/3/4/5.

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >In Japan

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't Unicorn Overlord basically a prettier Ogre Battle? So... not turn-based?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      while the map screen is sort of rts and the battles are your party's pre programmed actions the battles are still technically turn based, even if you aren't manually making the decision for what each unit does on their turn.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone explain how the company that had huge success with Dragon Quest 11 concluded turn based doesn't sell?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those are different types of games though. DQ moved to handheld pretty early on and final fantasy made it big with spectacle. Well spectacle players don't like turnbased.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unicorn autobattler
    >turn based
    Dissclaimer, this is not a Final Flopity defense post, frick Square israelites and snoys

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unicorn is RTS, moron. like Diofield Chronicles

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is still playing Persona, no time for FF.
    It was stupid trying to compete with Atlus in the same month.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      shatlus couldn't even compete with RGG studios

      Turn-troons are clamoring to PS5 **PHYSICAL** sales numbers for Japan, because they have nothing else.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I still want kingdom hearts put on steam. I've been close to buying them on epic but I've waited this so why budge now. Playing through 3 on my ps4 pro was miserable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pirate it you stupid moron

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like having easy access to my games. I know how to pirate, but I want them on steam.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >i'm having a worse experience on console but man oh man do i NEED to give square enix my money for a single player game of all things
          have some fricking standards, christ. peak moronation

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lol no I bought them back on the ps3 and only picked up 3 to play on my barley used ps4 pro. It's performance was abysmal on that. You had to set your output resolution to 1080p to get a stableish framerate. I've tried the pc release and I was able to get a nice 120fps at 4k, but I want them on steam.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where did that idea even come from, anyways? Pokemon has always been turn based and that fricker just won't die.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where did Square even get the idea that turn-based is dead?
    FFX was fully turn-based, not even ATB, and that was the last time one of their titles unambiguously did gangbusters without needing to attach 20 asterisks to the sales numbers.
    How did they make FFX, watch it fricking explode, and then decide:
    >FFXII needs to be more active with a system where you can program your party members to play the game for you, and indeed using gambits is the only way to actually keep up with combat when the CPU can issue commands 10x faster than you
    >FFXIII needs to have no party interaction whatsoever, no choice whatsoever in leveling or customization, and battles so braindead you can spam attack harder than any previous game in the franchise
    >FFXV shouldn't even be an RPG, just hold a single button for combat and occasionally hit QTE prompts and watch the game play itself without even needing to set party behavior

    I seriously don't understand. Why completely change the formula? For a new audience? What about the 10m+ sales FFX did? Was that not enough of an audience?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FF wasn't successful because of its RPG mechanics, it was successful because of the style, music, and story.
      12 had a boring story that filtered morons
      13 had a terrible story that filtered everyone with standards
      15 had tiny chunks of a story and asked you to spend another $80 getting the rest of it, filtering everyone left.

      16 was a failure because there's no confidence whatsoever in the brand, which is truly stunning given that this series has multiple generation-defining titles. 7R did numbers thanks to the bait-and-switch of selling an alternate-universe sequel as a "remake," and no one fell for it a second time with Rebirth. We've gone from a franchise that pushed the medium with its exciting presentation to a franchise that can't sell except through nostalgiabait and underhanded marketing bullshit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >FF wasn't successful because of its RPG mechanics, it was successful because of the style, music, and story.
        This is just pure cope.
        People liked the gameplay of FF.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, but there were tons of other RPGs within the same timeframe that put it to shame in terms of gameplay.
          FF shined because of its artistic aspects. People who wanted gameplay-centric JRPGs were already shitting on it compared to titles like Legend of Dragoon and Skies of Arcadia.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >FF shined because of its artistic aspects.
            In combination with gameplay that people liked.
            Which is why completely abandoning that gameplay in favour for a polar opposite genre, was fully moronic.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              People would have welcomed the genre shift if the stories weren't putrid dogshit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >People would have welcomed the genre shift
                Not the old fans. Not most of them at least.
                The overlap between turnbased rpg fans and action game fans is and has always been extremely low. Yes, there are obviously fans of both, but you'd struggle to find two genres with less overlap than these.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I play both but I'd never play FF16. Why the frick would I play a DmC clone with inferior customization, movesets, boss fights, less playable characters, and a raped version of FF4's story.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's the difference.
              From a mechanical perspective, you can find tons of issues with FFVI~X, which is the timeframe in which the franchise was MASSIVE.
              If those games released with boring characters and a half-assed plot, the way XII onwards were produced, they would not have been successful in the slightest. And indeed, XII onwards haven't even gotten close to reaching that level of success, because the stories are terrible and the mediocre gameplay isn't enough to salvage it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If those games released with boring characters and a half-assed plot, the way XII onwards were produced, they would not have been successful in the slightest.
                FF1 was a success. It's unironically one of the better FF games.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks for reminding me about the greatest JRPG ever came out.
            While I really liked FF until 12, I have to admit, non of the FF´s got into the shit which skies of arcadia did back then.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >16 was a failure because there's no confidence whatsoever in the brand,
        And also it was a genuinely mediocre game.
        Setting up political intrigue to give up partway and go full "aliens did everything" in the most unsatisfying, half-assed way possible while raping the words logos and mythos by not understanding what they mean yet insisting on using them to sound mysterious and deep.
        Apparently the message of the game was about "clash of values" but they explored it by pitting people who want slaves against people who don't want to be slaves and never go any deeper than that while still acting dramatic and flourishing how everyone wants freedom with no nuance.
        Adventuring is pointless, all you get are a million crafting materials you only need a handful of to begin with, every corner gives a flashy MMO-colored rarity item to trick casuals into thinking they got something good but it's just yet another inventory number.
        The art is grey, washed out and ugly to behold.
        The combat is the best part of the game, but it's about as fleshed out as playing one single Tales game character for the whole game. It genuinely feels like Jill and other characters should be controllable but were cut last minute, leaving the player bored.
        The game just goes full tilt into spectacle at a moment's notice, then returns you to the most mundane, mind-numbing, time wasting horse shit sidequests that feel tacked on and mandatory to call itself a JRPG that give, again, no tangible or exciting rewards.
        FF16 was a solid 5/10.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          16's on the same level as 12, it's trying way too fricking hard to have a grand-scale plot like Tactics without actually letting anything breathe because everything has to be about epic moments.
          I liked 16 the same way I liked 12, but I'm not clamoring to replay it the same way I return to 6, 7, and Tactics every few years. The unfortunate part for 16 is that "it's just alright" doesn't really cut it when games are $70 and want you to spend another $30 for the DLC that inevitably comes out.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >16's on the same level as 12,
            Nah, 12 actually had a very good narrative. There's one anon around who will explain it better to you, but even a character like Vaan has significance in Ashe's development and grounds her to the people. It may have been rushed toward the end, but everything up to and including Phaos was very well done. 16 doesn't have any of that cohesion, it's just spurious, spectacle and a sudden realization that the writing team doesn't know how to do political intrigue and gives up.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Implying "political intrigue" and other political aspects of XII's story are good.
              Sorry, but no. Vayne Solidor is a literal moron and the crisis in Ivalice after the surrender of Dalmasca is not a crisis/war necessity:
              >Restarted a continent-scale war with no allies on his side.
              >Turned every capable political and military party on the continent against himself, and, what's more important, against his views on history and politics.
              >As a result of his aggressive actions, the consequences of which he couldn't foresee, our stupid party members were forced to release elder demons in self-defence.
              >Failed to conquer the continent despite having a nuclear-like weapon on his side.
              >Didn't even bother to try to use diplomacy and cooperation to warn the world of the Ocurrian threat(?) and propose a solution to that threat in the manufactured Nethicite technological approach.
              >As a result of his aggression both Ocurrian and based on Manufactured Nethicite orders were abandoned by people, thus leaving them absolutely defenceless against the demons of the Cataclysm and one particular sect of religious fanatics. These demons and fanatics will wipe out the civilisation of Ivalice 100 years after the events of XII...

              Politician. Strategist. Thinker.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It genuinely feels like Jill and other characters should be controllable but were cut last minute, leaving the player bored.
          Imagine if the game had been turn based. And actually played like Final Fantas. And given you a full party to control.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tactics was the best RPG of all time. FF4 had the best story. Every single game has been a ripoff of the Tiamat theory. You can only milk the same cow for so many decades. FF16 is quite literally a scene by scene plot ripoff of FF4 to include even naming some of the characters the same. The story is the EXACT same there's just less characters and less ways to play and Ifrit's design is dogshit (should have gone with FF8 design) and btw it's Devil May Cry but worse now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >getting the rest of it

        There is no "rest of it." Final Fantasy XV feels like someone cut out 70% of the game's story, character development and setting. The remaining 30% were split into two 15% halves. One of those was split into the movie, anime, dlc etc. while the remaining 15% are what you actually get when you buy the game.

        No amount of DLC could have ever fixed this mess. Especially since the DLC isn't even integrated into the game but completely disconnected from it.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UO isn't turn based, it's a battle simulator. What I like about it is the entire fight is decided before it starts based purely on your ability to understand how to mitigate the enemies win conditions and take advantage of stats and rule sets.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >UO isn't turn based
      Not OP. But the battles do follow a distinct turn based structure at least. Which you no doubt already know. But still.

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just beaten ff7 for the first time.
    should i play crisis core, the remake or dirge of cerberus now?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just play Remake. Compilation games are honestly trash to play. You can play them after if you’re still hungry for FF7

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's no "remake"
      FF7: Remake is an alternate-universe Compilation sequel.
      Try Crisis Core, if you're not immediately repelled then you might be the kind of person who actually likes this garbage. Otherwise don't bother because every other Compilation entry is just as bad.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >autistic seething: the post

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dirge of cerberus is one of the worst games I've had the misfortune of playing. avoid it like the plague.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People b***h about FF13 as if FF hasn't inherently been cursed with terrible games since the PS2 era.
        It's genuinely baffling. It's like when people whine about how Blizz has gone "downhill" as if they haven't been producing bottom-shelf filth since a darkie was in the white house.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I actually liked 13-2.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      play 8, 9, 10 and Lost Odyssey

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    redditcorn redditlord flopped

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel weird as I have a lot of nostalgia for Final Fantasy but I didn't have a playstation until the PS2 was almost out so I never played FF7 and now it's the only one people ever talk about,

    I played 5 and 6 from roms and I had 9 and 8 since 9 was out when I first got a playstation. But when I tried to go back to 7 it looked like absolute shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was in a similar position. But in combination with Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts having made ff7 look extra unappealing to me.
      In retrospect, I am confident I would have loved ff7. Which is unsurprising, considering I loved all the other ff games. But on the other hand, Square Enix have only quadrupled down on the Advent Children and Kingdom Hearts shit. And now the remake is what I feared the original to be. It's oddly ironic.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do we feel about this one Ganker?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good. Ignore chink reviews from people still pissed about the NTR incident.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unicorn
    >turn based
    UE is a shitty autobattler that requires zero input lol

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    unicorn overlord has like 100 pics on gelbooru, people truly do not care about it.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the retail/final version of FF15 sucks
    Episode Duscae is better

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what your favorite FF says about you
    1-5: liar
    6: hipster, likely frequents reddit too much
    7: a secondary, probably casual, and 100% blinded by nostalgia without exception
    8: actual cool human that I would converse with
    9: infantile, obsessed with their childhood
    10: a man with flawless taste, or a woman with flawless taste
    11: autistic
    12: autistic-lite
    13: incomprehensible gay
    14: bandwagoner and secondary
    15: zoomer
    16: liar
    tactics: based beyond belief, above all reproach, and poised on a throne above all others

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >UO
    >turn-based
    /v/Black folk are actually the most moronic subspecies on the planet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This
      Even Engage and ot2 sold worse
      Zoomers are not into classic turn based games
      Besides most REAL turn based games get doomposted to death,you can only praise them when nintenhomosexuals want you to join in their obsessed anti ff campaign of an IP nobody gives a frick

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think these differences in success has anything to do with turn-based vs. real time.
        Unicorn Overlord's just good. Can't believe how addicted I got to it. 60 hours in the first playthrough, and then my autistic ass fires it up again for true zenoiran. You play fire emblem and it's just such an immense drag. The franchise was unironically revitalized with Awakening because they just made the game so piss easy, you didn't have to play musical battle forecasts for 10 minutes a turn, and turned it into a eugenics sim. The actual gameplay was always bad, even by turn-based standards.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it is a premium gacha yet Ganker eats it up.

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unicorn Chads... I wish Vanilla Ware could make millions. They deserve it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >not on PC
      They don't deserve SHIT.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tendies backstabbing pcgays this fast
        I wonder if you hate pc more than ff or Capcom

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick are you talking about? I mean that VW doesn't deserve shit until they release the game on PC.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not on PC
        Wdym i finished it on pc just fine

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally enjoying both

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they should have just made a FF monster hunter if I am being real with you

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I really wish Square would rip off something that actually mattered instead of making these limp-wristed excuses for "action games."
        Give me an FF-themed BG3 ripoff with a functioning job system, or even just a CRPG in general.
        Give me an FF-themed anime fighter like GBVSR
        Give me an FF-themed early access open-world survival crafting title where I can ride a chocobo around in a destitute unfinished grassland

        They excelled at doing their own thing in the 90s. They can't do that anymore. They need to revert back to imitation. Stranger of Paradise proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can only make half-decent games when they're flat-out copying something better.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stranger of paradise was kino and more final fantasy than anything square has done in years.

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares anymore about Shadow Empire

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was a good idea overall but in the end it's just overcomplicated(with setting not difficulty) wargame
      There's no real struggle for survival coming from anything but enemy units

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >turn-based
    But UO is RTWP.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Battles are turn based without your ability to control them(besides set up)
      Rtwp is strategy part of game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Battles aren't turn-based either. You and opponent don't take turns attacking each other. Instead, each and every unit act according with the initiative roll order.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Instead, each and every unit act according with the initiative roll order
          Now name how system like that is called you autismo

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gladius arguably the best TBS game about 40k.

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    57k total huh

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4NIAR without gimmincks is stale, Baldur's Gate 3's tactical combat is where it's at now

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rebirth is goty btw

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pic is outdated the numbers are even higher today

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't really matter when everyone who played it concluded it was shit and those scores were all deleted.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why post fake pictures?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Literal link in the pic, troon.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Cope time isn't over. just make the score a zero and get serious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you mean goytea?

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >FFXVI btfo by Baldurs Gate 3
    >FFVII Shitmake btfo by Unicorn Overlord
    turn based bros we are eating good. Do you hear the cries of the FF trannies?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >rebirth: 297k sales
      >unicorn overload: 57k sales

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        FF is one of the biggest RPG series. Unicorn Overlord is a niche game from a small dev team.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And the (physical only Japan only) sales reflect that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          FF is ps5 only
          Second part of a Trilogy
          Zoomers dont like this genre that much

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Massive budget game, with 500+ people working on it being btfo by a game made by 10 people in their garage.

        It's over 4u.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I’m looking at the numbers and it seems rebirth had 5 times the sales of unicorn and has higher review scores. Im thinking that it won and you might have brain damage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You have to it in relation. See:

        FF is one of the biggest RPG series. Unicorn Overlord is a niche game from a small dev team.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So all is as it should be then?

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its crazy how little console games sell these days. A buttshaking gachas worst month was 13m. Anyway Unicorn is good, pirate it ryujinx bros.

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your picture tells me that rebirth sold 6 times more than unicorn.
    >physical only

    Oh you're just moronic.

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >both games not on pc
    its over

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The JP version of Rebirth is also on sale 1000 yen cheaper while Unicorn Overlord is full price.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Famitus thread tomorrow
    Tomorrow we'll see if UO has any legs or if it was all memes.

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So why were nintendies seething at P5 success

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Nintendies so fricking obsessed with sales?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Part of it it's trauma for ff7 ps1 success.
      But the real origin started in 5chan. Tendies don't want you to know this but pc gaming has been growing A LOT in Japan. Nintendo schizos from 5chan disliked this, and besides snoy (deserved because Snoy is a shit company), they dislike how japanese companies like Capcom and sega have been growing without Nintendo help

      This is why tendies pretend to care about UO but as soon as someone suggest UO on pc to multiply it's sales they get really defensive over it. Capcom is another one they have been hating for years since most of their catalogue skipped switch and they have been really popular online
      Mostly they want S-E to be bought by Nintendo, it's why they keep obsessing over this company. They supported Octopath 1 but they refused to support Octopath 2 more since it wasn't exclusive.

      They mostly fear S-E pulling a RE7 where they stop being moronic and start releasing full games on pc day one/multiplatform. The thing is, nintendies do want FF no matter its shitty quality on Nintendo only, they dont want secondaries like xenoblade, even though all the time they spent shitposting other companies could have been spent in making Xenoblade sell x5

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The irony of it is tendies are known for doomposting other jrpgs so the catalogue only has FE
        They tried to get rid of unicorn threads spamming the translation shit but luckily it didnt work

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Makes a lot of sense like why the frick would you want Vanillaware to miss such a chance to do better?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly I wouldn't mind a new FF with Rebirth combat system, I feel like they finally managed to find what they were looking for.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >snoys make sales threads constantly for like a decade straight
      >at a frequency even higher than you see today

      >nintendo overtakes playstation in the sales rankings
      >"Why are Nintendies so fricking obsessed with sales?"
      (You)

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UO is not a "turn-based game" it's an idle game because it plays itself.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fourth week sales show up yet? Need to see the next level of FF shill denials

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For those of you confused, the homosexual who spends all day insisting that FF7R is a flop is a black middle aged amerimutt incel that constantly posts and shills blacked porn. He also hated TOTK. The reason being that both Cloud and Link are white blond male protagonists. That makes the cuckshill seethe immensely. Hence all the bizarre comissioned troony/sissy porn of the two.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek, there's an anti-TOTK on the catalogue right now as well. He couldn't be any more obvious.

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >all this talk about sales when nobody actually knows how much the game sold

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Case in point, if the game would have sold good SE would scream on X about how many billions they made.

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anybody actually believe Japs care about combat systems and don't just buy whatever has the more generic big titted anime artstyle?

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like FF13 was the Skyward Sword for the series like they just only took "linear/turn based = uncool now" instead of realizing it was just a bad game using that formula

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do nuFF defenders always assume that any fan of classic Final Fantasy who dislikes whatever the frick Square Enix is doing with the franchise nowadays. Must be Barry?
    And Barry is a total fricking moron who likes and defends FF15 too. Which is just as antithetical to the classic games as FF16 or whatever. They're all garbage.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      creating a simplistic world for themselves helps them cope

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >laugh at yellow paint
      >get investigated
      >someone else said "lol" just like me once and used samus react pic
      guess i'm a tendie now.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unicorn Overlord is not turn-based. It's an RTwP/auto-battler hybrid.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >auto-battler
      It's not a fricking autobattler.
      You wouldn't call Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Disgaea, Phantom Brave, Super Robot Wars. Final Fantasy Tactics, Tactics Ogre, etc, etc, autobattlers.
      So why do you call Unicorn Overlord an autobattler?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It absolutely is an autobattler. In the games you mentioned you control the placement of individual units on the map, have to worry about positioning, which skills to use and the like. In Unicorn Overlord once you set up your team everything is resolved automatically. And since the game is braindead easy you don't even have to try to set up efficienct teams.
        >inb4 you control different troops on the map
        There's a limited amount of those and their positioning barely matters.

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Those totals
    What's the point of comparing Unicorn Overlord to a game that outsold it by 5x

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rookie numbers. Release it on Steam and it will beat its lifetime sales in 3 hours. Japs are frickinga morons that hate money and technology though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remake flopped on steam

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why does Ganker pretend Japan isnt obsessed with Nintendo shit?

  82. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UO isn't turn based you fricking moron. It's a tactical auto battler.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Characters take actions based on their Speed stat
      >Only one action happens at a time
      UO is turn based.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not an autobattler

  83. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What compels you fricking sad sacks to spend your days shitflinging about sales figures?

  84. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If turn-based is so bad, then why did the most anticipated remake in the Final Fantasy series have worse sales numbers than a turn-based DQ game that hasn't changed its formula in 30 years?

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