Playstation's kinda bad

The whole point of a console is to provide a good and unique experience that you need that specific console for. Nice UI, a unique controller, collectable physical games, and diverse exclusives. The PS4 and PS5 (basically just another PS4 revision) are horrible products that don't deliver on enough of the key points of a game console. In particular, the awful physical games, and poor exclusives are what really kill the Playstation. Sony seems dead set on erasing even the option for physical games, and has done their best to make their physical releases as unappealing as possible for collectors, and general consumers alike. You're forced to install the entire game onto your system, erasing the space-saving utility that physical media has for non-collectors. And if you are a collector, the games come in the flimsiest, cheapest case possible, often with legal text plastered all over the inside. Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I really think they're doing this on purpose because they would save money and have more control over the content if they went all digital.
As for exclusives, they've essentially scared off any third-party devs, and have opted to release nothing but homogenized AAA movie games. Absolutely no diversity in exclusives, nor quantity either. These may sell well for now, but what happens when they go out of style? What are they gonna fall back on? If things go south for the PS brand who the fuck's gonna want to work with them again?
PS is still popular for now, but I feel like they burned all their fuel in the PS4 era, and are bound to come crashing down if they don't leave their current bubble and make changes.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Counterargument:

    Nintendo uses hardware that is 2 gens old.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's really Nintendo's achilles heel. Aside from that, they provide a more unique console experience.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      And yet Nintendo makes 60fps 1080p games optimized for their own shitty hardware while Sony with le powerful gwafix squandered the specs for more triangles in their realistic 30fps cinnematic experience

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Nintendo makes 60fps 1080p games
        Name five.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Smash bros, mario kart, ARMS, any mario sports, Mario kart, splatoon

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >New standards are [email protected]
          Name 5 next gen games made by Sony that do this

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pick any but here are some.
            Rift Apart
            TLOU remake
            Horizon Forbidden West
            Returnal
            Sackboy A big adventure.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >8th gen multiplats
              >next gen
              >still needs performance mode
              Don't worry, the PS4.5 Pro Pro releases next year. Maybe you'll get actual next gen performance if you shell out an additional $500 (performance mode only)

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >western trash

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >4k
          upscaled 4K*

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, real 4k. The upscaled 4k is 1440 via checkerboard. That's the "4k" 60 mode which is really just 1440. The 4k 30 games are 4k.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        botw was 20-25fps and 900p

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Every open world game is 30fps or worse

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Muh hardware
      Playing video games has nothing to do with hardware when hardware limitations these days only amount to muh graphics.
      >but but it can't do 4k with 60fps
      2D games still do. IT's just 3D open world shit that don't.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wrong pic. THIS playstation is bad.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. Playstation was at its best during PS1, was a perfect blend of video game and "entertainment system" with the PS2, then went to shit after that.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I saw your picture, I was thinking you were going to be shitting on the PS1, and I was ready to come here and flame you. But I see that you're only talking about nu-playstation, which is definitely trash. RIP

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everybody's Golf servers to shutdown in a few days. For no reason. A really fun sony first party IP is being erased from my library when no sequel is on the horizon. Just like Gravity Rush. At least I can cancel my PS+ subscription as it is utterly worthless to me now!

    Thank you Sony! :^)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nintendo Wii Shop servers shut down already. For no reason. Thousands of digital only games, gone forever.

      Thanks Nintendo!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wii shop shutdown cause Gamespy was bought there wasn't a "For no reason".

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Wii shop shutdown cause Gamespy was bought
          So? Nintendo can't contract a new host? Cope tendie.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I already bought everything i wanted over a decade ago. I can still play these games. I can't play Everybody's golf. Snoy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I already bought everything i wanted over a decade ago
          You got 5 years to play it, pretty generous for a multiplayer game.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You got 5 years to play it, pretty generous for a multiplayer game.
            By console standards.
            I can still play tf2 (15 years) and wc3 (19 years) today.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I can still play tf2 (15 years) and wc3 (19 years) today.
              lol, PC kusoge, enjoy I guess.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                lmao, people are playing PS3 Tekken 5 DR thanks to PC, get fucked sony basedboy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >not being able to play a game is the same as not being able to buy a game from one source
            Snoy bootlicker

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        At this point, I'd accept a "Wii Week" every month where they reopen the Wii Shop Channel and turn back on their online Nintendo Wifi Connection stuff. Then make it so WiiConnect24 stays on forever for the Weather, News, etc, and the just shut down the online store until the next "Wii Week" if they need.

        Of course I'd rather them just open the store and all the online features come back full force 24/7, but that would never happen unless somehow millions of people start playing their Wiis again, form some sort of mob, and then maybe Nintendo might put out a statement saying they'll "look into it".

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker just has this weird hatred for playstation, all their old IPs kind of died on the PS2, things like Ape Escape were deemed worse than Mario 64 and Spyro.

    PS3 was when they started making new IPs and the system was carried by Uncharted and TLOU. Little Big Planet hung around and people laughed at it during this era and thought it was trash.

    PS4 rolls around, and they rework god of war and introduce more new IPs like Horizon.

    Suddenly Ganker hates these want wants old playstation back where as decades before they had no real success with their IPs like Ape Escape or Jumping Flash.

    It comes off as like a bunch of people being asleep for decades, like did you miss the PS3 being a failure and the rebirth of Sony's first party studios where now they have multiple franchises that sell in the tens of millions?

    Gravity Rush bombed, but the people who champion it At most watched videos on it or only played the short campaign. They didn't bother with the awful side content which was 80% of the game. Both 1 and 2 had real bad open world design which stuff like Horizon didn't even begin to approach.

    If GR had well designed side content like Forbidden West or God of War you would probably have a more well liked game.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >blaming a website for sony games not selling well

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their IPs were more varied in the past. Not to mention the large catalog of third-party Japanese exclusives they were practically known for. They streamlined their IPs into AAA movie games, and ran off all the JP devs. Also, Gravity Rush did poorly because the Vita did poorly. And the Vita did poorly because Sony handled it poorly. And as for GR Remastered and GR2, they were released in a time when Sony was already nuking their Japanese image. Those games weren't marketed very well, and people hardly even know they exist. It's not a stretch to call Gravity Rush a niche series at this point.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most of the people from japan studio left for nintendo (about 60, mostly monolithsoft), 30 went to team asobi (only astros playroom so far) and the other ones went on to do indie stuff by themselves.
        Got ps4 and PC here and I'm still not sure if I want a ps5 at this point. I have yet to try the new sony "standard", as in god of war, horizon, tlou and spiderman (got them all on ps4 via ps+, never launched them).
        You might like https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/doublekickstarter/armed-fantasia-and-penny-blood

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ran off all the JP devs

        How the fuck could they run off japanese devs when all the same companies are still making games for the PS5 including ones like Konami

        And they just announced a bunch of multiplayer games which are all going to be with different mechanics

        The whole narrative you're making doesn't hold any water.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker is in a constant struggle with its own identity as a haven for Nintendo fans (it can't be denied) and a large contingent of niche internet subcultures converging. The kind of people that would casually talk about umihara kawase in the same post they praise siren and talk of a new sega saturn translation, on the flipside is an extremely hostile fanbase of nintendo fans which despite loving Nintendo have an extremely adversarial relationship with anything else Japanese. It's a weirdly contradictory existence because they'll claim to want games like gravity rush back but then refuse to ever buy the console its on.

      It's really not hard to figure out how sales drive studios, and PlayStation is no different. Instead of conjuring excuses support games you actually like. There's people here unironically begging for Nintendo to get Gravity Rush (lol.)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The kind of people that would casually talk about umihara kawase in the same post they praise siren and talk of a new sega saturn translation
        I feel like for users desiring such niche experiences, the future will be on PC only.
        There might be a few games releasing on switch because of it 98% market share in JPN, but most of them don't get released internationally, so you have to import and learn (you can't even speak english) japanese just to play them, instead of applying an enlish fan patch on PC.
        >which despite loving Nintendo have an extremely adversarial relationship with anything else Japanese
        Well, despite them not realizing it, they are fucking casuals. A nintendo console is always casual city. They might claim to humour core gamers as well, but xbox/ps do a better job at that.
        >they'll claim to want games like gravity rush back but then refuse to ever buy the console its on
        Yeah, nobody bought the games, they tanked and nu sony just nuked the division due to them not making bank. They will never release niche titles without mass apeal ever again. You will only find smaller projects on switch (due to shitty hardware, it's easier for a small team to code for that) and PC.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >the future will be on PC only.
          I hope not, consoles are a much more desirable platform for this. This is something that should be fought against, tooth and nail.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Why do you dislike PC so much?
            Is it because of digital only? Even some switch games are broken on card / too big for the card because the developer was a cheapass and you have to download content anyway. Will be gone in about 5 years as well.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              yeah digital is the worst thing to happen to consumers.
              >made up scenario
              don't care.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Why do you dislike PC so much?
              The spawn of pretty much every cancerous industry practice and the second worst fanbas in this industry

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It never will be, because despite the increase in PC game sales videogames first and foremost are designed console first.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nintendo fans on Ganker are the reason why sony shut down Everybody's Golf and Gravity Rush
        Nope

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          retard lol

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Meant for

            Ganker is in a constant struggle with its own identity as a haven for Nintendo fans (it can't be denied) and a large contingent of niche internet subcultures converging. The kind of people that would casually talk about umihara kawase in the same post they praise siren and talk of a new sega saturn translation, on the flipside is an extremely hostile fanbase of nintendo fans which despite loving Nintendo have an extremely adversarial relationship with anything else Japanese. It's a weirdly contradictory existence because they'll claim to want games like gravity rush back but then refuse to ever buy the console its on.

            It's really not hard to figure out how sales drive studios, and PlayStation is no different. Instead of conjuring excuses support games you actually like. There's people here unironically begging for Nintendo to get Gravity Rush (lol.)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      PS3 had no games for over a year.
      PS4 was ok but went woke and started censoring/removing games from the store and banning shit because it was Japanese.
      When people want the old playstation back, they don't mean PSX they mean sony when they weren't cucked into demanding all games to be moviegames full of morons and women.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >PS3 had no games for over a year.
        Completely false. You fell for a meme.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          PS3 has no gaems

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            trying to fit in like its 2007.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Butthurt like its 2007

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      bizarre post

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >PS3-5
    Terrible
    >PS1-2
    Excellent

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still buying a PS5 though.
    How does that make you feel?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      YOURE WASTING YOUR MON EY JUST BUY A PC

      PLEASE BUY A PC I LIVE IN A BOX AND CAN ONLY USE TOASTER I HAD TO SEEL A KIDNEY TO UPGRADE FOR ELDEN RING

      BUT HAHA YOU ARE THE IDIOT BY WASTING 500 DOLLARS I MEAN 500 DOLLARS THATS A LOT OF MONEY

      YOU SHOULD SPEND 1500 ON A PC

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What if he only has 500 instead of 1500, that’s a pretty big difference

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I really think they're doing this on purpose because they would save money and have more control over the content if they went all digital.

    you haven't had control over your games since the 360 let you download games.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, the point of a console is to play video games.
    PlayStation is still bad though because it plays movies instead.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I jumped to PC this Gen. The final straw for me was selling a digital only version of the console for less money.

    The push for a digital library was it. If I will be forced to go digital, it will be on a PC. Seems like this was the generation to hop over anyway so it all worked out. Playstation is a Californian company anyway now, so whatever. It was a good run but farewell

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get the hate for non pozzed movie and heavy narrative games. I mean they're alright and all, but at least they didn't insult our intelligence and forced us to look at hideous character models all the time.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo aren't really doing a whole lot better. Buy a physical game from them and they give you a giant empty case and a flash memory card.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now do steam

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        barely a thing anymore but the last physical PC game I bought a decade ago had a disk and a manual (but they made me install steam to activate the game anyway).

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          What you don't mention is the disc doesn't even contain the game, just installs steam and activates a key. I would know, I bought Half Life 2 """physical""" copy back when it was first released.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Steam? I am happy with how they do business.

    • 2 months ago
      saucy

      TOTK BROKE STREET DATE LETS GOOOOOOO

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I miss instruction manuals.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      At least the Switch has a unique case design that isn't flimsy, easily (often already) warped trash, and a higher likelihood of having interior artwork. I'd rather have it be completely blank on the inside than have all the eyesore legal text.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i like that all switch games are coffee flavored

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    As someone who bought both(yes both) gravity rush installments, it makes me scratch ,y head why Ganker will praise these games while in the same breath bash god of war or horizon.

    Gravity rush had awful fucking combat and the enemies were no real fun to fight either.

    Yeah you could alter your perspective, but since that served little to no purpose druing combat you were mostly jumping up in the ar and using gravity kick because that was one of the few good combat abilities.

    Both God of War and Horizon have words better combat than GR ever had, and put way more thought into their level design and layout. Gravity Rush was pretty fucking barren with interesting shit to do.

    Gravity Rush is a third person game in much the same vein as Horizon and God of War, thinking sony had some slight against the Japanese is even more retarded considering they just bought out nearly the whole US anime industry and proceeded to then vomit up SpyXFamily for the western world to enjoy.

    And not only that they just made a Japanese external development support studio(which for the majority of it's life that's what Studio japan was) to release games like Ronin and Yakuza. And they did this because Ghost of Tsushima was a hit and that was a japanese peroid piece made by suckerpunch who had to cancel Sly Cooper's revival because the fucking Tsushima IP is now too big to quit on.

    The whole Sony anrti-japanese narrative slant(if you exclusive the pun) seems to be brought on by a bunch of weebs who want to play victim in much the same way feminsists got upset at the princess alway needing to be rescued and how that eternally damaged their emotional ass.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ganker has always had a complicated relationship with any game on playstation. Learn to suss out where people are coming from and you can see thru any bullshit. That is what you seem most confused by.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      japan good the west bad

      and to be frank, the japanese video game industry has been in shambles since the ps360 days. only garden gnomenintendo are able to release big budget titles that don't flop. snoy just went where the money is, your shit like legend of dragoon, ape escape, gravity rush, everyone's golf, arc the lad, the last guardian, and even bloodborne all sold very poorly. it only made sense for them to back naughty dog and other western studios when their games sell 10s of millions of copies. the only exception is polyphony digital but its just a car game

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Legend of Dragoon was only saved by it's western sales, and when that happened they never made another one again.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gravity Rush was as much a movement based platformer as it was just an action game. And it's take on movement was quite unique and was really fun what you could do with it. You're way over reacting about the combat being fucking awful, it was fine and sounds like you just didn't really get it if you were just jump kicking. The world and setting were also unique in a cool way (which you could argue so was Horizon, but it's arguably run of the mill scifi depending on how cynical you're trying to be). You're being bother obtuse by not mention the platforming while talking about the gameplay, and it comes off as a pretty dishonest take on it probably fueled by bitterness about how people have insulted Horizon and God of War before.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jump kicking was the quickest way to break the weakpoints most of Kat's combat abilities were kind of bad or useless. Especially in 2 and all the hand to hand shit they had going on. There were only like 2-3 moves in total that were of any use and the rest were mostly junk abilities that didn't get better over time and were just resource sinks. You needed to dump crystals into her speed abilities just to clear the gold time trials. It was stupid shit like that which their western games lacked.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    gravity rush and ape escape files:
    https://gofile.io/d/nk2dEG

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people demanding ape escape
    >None of them played Astro Bot Rescue Mission or Astro's Playroom

    Honestly it's no fucking wonder we're stuck in an endless stream of revivals and remakes, people can't get go of the old shit and only appreciater new shit once it's old.

    I swaer once MetalJesusRocks makes a hidden gems video about the PSVR you're going to have people talking about how fucking Astro Bot was amazing and on par with mario 64 with how it redefined platformers. And then they cry and lament that Team Asobi is making an anime action games because nobody fucking bought Astro when it was current.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >A unique controller
    No thanks. The DualShock line of joypad is perfect and there's no real major improvement possibile.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every sony controller has their left stick in the wrong spot and the shittiest battery of any 1st party controller. I can't think of one reason i would use a playstation controller over a contemporary Nintendo or Xbox controller except for maybe 2d side scrollers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Every sony controller has their left stick in the wrong spot
        ive been playing on dualshocks since day 1, this is a skill issue

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ive been playing on dualshocks since day 1, this is indoctrination
          Fixed

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sure is a lot of Xbox chud seethe today
    >BUT MUH BRAZIL
    kek

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >literal preemptive cope over his nationality

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The whole point of a console is to provide a good and unique experience that you need that specific console for.
    No, the whole point is that it plays the games you want to play. I was skeptical about this gen of consoles because they were pretty much just a hardware improvement. The thing is that actually matters. These consoles play the games I want to play at a cheaper price point than a gaming desktop without any of the hassle. The load times are near instant in most of the games I've played. The games are all running at 60fps minimum. The operating system is miles ahead this generation. Instant upgrades on games I already owned. The controller is so much better I can't even believe it. This is easily the best experience I've ever had in gaming and I say this as a person that is chronically depressed and derives very little joy from gaming anymore. The truth is that most people posting hate have no idea what they're talking about. They're criticizing consoles they've never touched. I can't believe I was going to skip this generation. It's the best yet and I don't even care if new games happen. I'm good.

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