I'm still kind of butt hurt that it flopped as hard as it did. There was some good stuff in there and Nintendo really wanted it to succeed and have staying power. You could see from the Directs at the time that even NOA was convinced it would be the next Pokemon. What a crying shame. Some of the monster designs are pretty cool and would work well being turned into Pokemon, like that ripped up can turning into a vending machine would make a perfect Poison / Steel type. But that would never not feel like a rip off. Also really strange that Jinbanyan never ended up in Smash Brothers, when he probably would have been pretty fricking likely if the development period for either Smash 4 or Ultimate was shifted just a little bit earlier in time
The fault with yokai watch is is the fault of digimon.
Well 2 with yokai watch, but I'll go over the main one.
Consistancy.
The reason manchildren still flock to buy the bing bong wahoo mario games is because it's a consistant thing. People buy the latest madden, latest cod etc etc. Because they can expect the same shit with a new coat of paint.
And yokai/digimon failed in that department. Almost every digimon and yokai watch game was something different, Digimon went from rpg town sim, to dungeon crawler, to pokemon, to standard jrpg, to the weird grid based battle thing. I duno i aint played survive yet. I haven't had time to go to the store.
People WANT the same shit with a new coat of paint
They want another pokemon game that ticks all the boxes, cross the T dot the I.
That's why nintendo are still such a powerhouse. They can produce the same shit, and anything they want to experiment with becomes a spinoff. If it works, merge the ideas into the main game.
You get to branch out while keeping your core alive. Digimon and yokai had all there eggs in one basket. If there games flopped, they lost it.
If a spinoff flops, the idea clearly doesn't work so it's fine.
But ontop of this, yokai watch's popularity was very heavily eastern. I know, yokai. But the point is, if you wanted to spread out and get the kid of popularity of pokemon monsters. Then you had to have monsters they would like. Nobody looks at a Granny holding speakers, A old man shaped like a potatoe or a red baby and thinks. "Yer that's my partner."
>But ontop of this, yokai watch's popularity was very heavily eastern.
It's this. The western localizers took a game about creatures from Japanese folklore and went "hey guys we made a bunch of not-Pokemon called "Yo-Kai", aren't we original? Give us money!" Erasing all the actual culture from the game just made it lose the original appeal it had. It never had a chance outside Japan because your average non-nip doesn't have any attachment to yokai to begin with, but marketing it as if you pulled all the monsters out of your ass just completely destroyed it.
Since 2016, pure progressive creativity was abbandoned in favour of cultural subversions and politics, we want to be different than the past without realizing that its not pure progression but the opposite
>But ontop of this, yokai watch's popularity was very heavily eastern.
It's this. The western localizers took a game about creatures from Japanese folklore and went "hey guys we made a bunch of not-Pokemon called "Yo-Kai", aren't we original? Give us money!" Erasing all the actual culture from the game just made it lose the original appeal it had. It never had a chance outside Japan because your average non-nip doesn't have any attachment to yokai to begin with, but marketing it as if you pulled all the monsters out of your ass just completely destroyed it.
Self cannibalization was another big factor. They just churned out so much shit in such a short time frame because they were scared of not capitalizing on the hype. It quickly exhausted their core audience and confused newer audiences.
Zelda was its own case, a series used to be composed of fans that didn't apprecciated the change of genre of games after Majora's Mask >wind waker not ocarina of time bad >twilight princess not wind waker bad >skysword sword not twilight princess bad
Breath of the Wild led to a new fanbase that eclipsed really bad the old one due the point the old doesn't really matter anymore and the new is completely fine with the series being a Ubisoft open world clone from now on
Never. Pokemon is founded on theft and plagiarism. Remember that its concepts and designs were lifted from the likes of Dragon Quest, Megami Tensei, Dungeons & Dragons and Ultraseven.
Also Kaiju and Tokosatsu media from the '70s to 90s. There was a great series of threads not too far back where people just kept pointing out how a lot of the Gen 1 Pokemon very closely resembled Ultraman bad guys, for example
Was Sticker Star or this first? I want to know who copied who.
I was thinking the same thing.
>Paper Mario: Sticker Star - November 11, 2012 >Yokai Watch - July 11, 2013 >the first chapter of the Yokai Watch manga - December 15, 2012
No matter how you spin it, Sticker Star was TECHNICALLY first, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone else thought of the "cover monster in shiny paper stuff" before Sticker Star.
Basically, Yokai Watch copied the "monster is shiny" thing from Sticker Star and added a "changes type" thing to it, and SV is just everything and making the hat the monster wears sillier.
It was honestly the first and only time TPC was genuinely worried about a competitor.
Because being in Japan they experienced Yokaimania in person, a phenomenon which never reached such levels in the West. So we don't quite get it.
This shit hasn't been popular in Japan in like six fricking years now, and was never popular in the West (especially North America), let it fricking go. It's done, over.
>Gne6: stole Mega Evo from Digimon >Gen7: they stole everything from Yo-Kai Watch + regional forms from Digimon >Gen8: they stole dynamax from Bakugan >Gen9: they are copying YGO's 5D's and now this
tendie pedos will defend and consoom like npc braindead morons because Twitter man told them it's good
As long its competitors continue to live by its shadow they can get away with it no problem
update your pic, you look like an idiot right now, homosexual
It's not even mine, moron
Then stop using outdated pics
>Galar's rumored to have armored pokemon
greymon is a champion or adult level, not mega
Yokai watch is a shit tier flop
It's not like it matters
>Money is the only things that matter
Okay, pokecum slurper.
>pokecum
I WISH
I'm still kind of butt hurt that it flopped as hard as it did. There was some good stuff in there and Nintendo really wanted it to succeed and have staying power. You could see from the Directs at the time that even NOA was convinced it would be the next Pokemon. What a crying shame. Some of the monster designs are pretty cool and would work well being turned into Pokemon, like that ripped up can turning into a vending machine would make a perfect Poison / Steel type. But that would never not feel like a rip off. Also really strange that Jinbanyan never ended up in Smash Brothers, when he probably would have been pretty fricking likely if the development period for either Smash 4 or Ultimate was shifted just a little bit earlier in time
The fault with yokai watch is is the fault of digimon.
Well 2 with yokai watch, but I'll go over the main one.
Consistancy.
The reason manchildren still flock to buy the bing bong wahoo mario games is because it's a consistant thing. People buy the latest madden, latest cod etc etc. Because they can expect the same shit with a new coat of paint.
And yokai/digimon failed in that department. Almost every digimon and yokai watch game was something different, Digimon went from rpg town sim, to dungeon crawler, to pokemon, to standard jrpg, to the weird grid based battle thing. I duno i aint played survive yet. I haven't had time to go to the store.
People WANT the same shit with a new coat of paint
They want another pokemon game that ticks all the boxes, cross the T dot the I.
That's why nintendo are still such a powerhouse. They can produce the same shit, and anything they want to experiment with becomes a spinoff. If it works, merge the ideas into the main game.
You get to branch out while keeping your core alive. Digimon and yokai had all there eggs in one basket. If there games flopped, they lost it.
If a spinoff flops, the idea clearly doesn't work so it's fine.
But ontop of this, yokai watch's popularity was very heavily eastern. I know, yokai. But the point is, if you wanted to spread out and get the kid of popularity of pokemon monsters. Then you had to have monsters they would like. Nobody looks at a Granny holding speakers, A old man shaped like a potatoe or a red baby and thinks. "Yer that's my partner."
>But ontop of this, yokai watch's popularity was very heavily eastern.
It's this. The western localizers took a game about creatures from Japanese folklore and went "hey guys we made a bunch of not-Pokemon called "Yo-Kai", aren't we original? Give us money!" Erasing all the actual culture from the game just made it lose the original appeal it had. It never had a chance outside Japan because your average non-nip doesn't have any attachment to yokai to begin with, but marketing it as if you pulled all the monsters out of your ass just completely destroyed it.
>nobody wants creativity
God I hate this world
Since 2016, pure progressive creativity was abbandoned in favour of cultural subversions and politics, we want to be different than the past without realizing that its not pure progression but the opposite
Wtf are you talking about /misc/tard, this is a game about befriending Japanese ghosts based on hamburgers and shit. Frick off
Only moronic lefties would lack reading comprehension, you turn every place you touch into cancer
Self cannibalization was another big factor. They just churned out so much shit in such a short time frame because they were scared of not capitalizing on the hype. It quickly exhausted their core audience and confused newer audiences.
>People WANT the same shit with a new coat of paint
Ok dud
Zelda was its own case, a series used to be composed of fans that didn't apprecciated the change of genre of games after Majora's Mask
>wind waker not ocarina of time bad
>twilight princess not wind waker bad
>skysword sword not twilight princess bad
Breath of the Wild led to a new fanbase that eclipsed really bad the old one due the point the old doesn't really matter anymore and the new is completely fine with the series being a Ubisoft open world clone from now on
Oops
That's a standalone mon that morphed due to its environment. The new gimmick makes them temporary crystalize.
>Oops
"Oops I'm a moron who can only think one dimensionally" that's right & it's ok anon we forgive you
Such a badass.
Never. Pokemon is founded on theft and plagiarism. Remember that its concepts and designs were lifted from the likes of Dragon Quest, Megami Tensei, Dungeons & Dragons and Ultraseven.
Also Kaiju and Tokosatsu media from the '70s to 90s. There was a great series of threads not too far back where people just kept pointing out how a lot of the Gen 1 Pokemon very closely resembled Ultraman bad guys, for example
It's always Level-5 isn't it
Mostly from Inazuma Eleven
>Mostly from Inazuma Eleven
How so? They took many things from Yokai Watch while the only reference to that game is Cinderace, AFAIK.
>the only reference to that game is Cinderace, AFAIK.
For his evolution line look up Tanukigahara Ponko and Makari Ginjirou
I like how even in the same pic you posted you prove yourself wrong by missing the very sense of the concept of this gimmick, because you're autistic.
>crystal forms that changes the mon's type
It's literally the same.
Was Sticker Star or this first? I want to know who copied who.
I was thinking the same thing.
>put on a big hat and become shiny like a foil sticker
It really is Sticker Star
They even have shiny crowns that give them the effect.
>Paper Mario: Sticker Star - November 11, 2012
>Yokai Watch - July 11, 2013
>the first chapter of the Yokai Watch manga - December 15, 2012
No matter how you spin it, Sticker Star was TECHNICALLY first, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone else thought of the "cover monster in shiny paper stuff" before Sticker Star.
Basically, Yokai Watch copied the "monster is shiny" thing from Sticker Star and added a "changes type" thing to it, and SV is just everything and making the hat the monster wears sillier.
You know that meme about how "people without consciousness can't create, only copy and destroy"?
I'm starting to believe it more and more each day.
>2002
/thread
Everyone above should feel ashamed.
Where are my dark and light pokemon?
There were light and dark pokemon in Gen 2 PTCG. This new mechanic is basically the delta mechanic from Gen 3
Six years too late, bud.
Yokai-watch's influence was permanent too since they still do rotom shit and the anime has remained wacky
It was honestly the first and only time TPC was genuinely worried about a competitor.
Because being in Japan they experienced Yokaimania in person, a phenomenon which never reached such levels in the West. So we don't quite get it.
I’m sorry sweaty but pokemon is the # 1 monster taming franchise of all time. It’s not a thing until Pokémon does it.
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic did crystallization earlier than both of them.
go back to your dead series and dead board
Unironically true. Can't believe pokemon is now stealing ideas from 'that' show.
>Yo-kai Watch
This shit hasn't been popular in Japan in like six fricking years now, and was never popular in the West (especially North America), let it fricking go. It's done, over.
>Gne6: stole Mega Evo from Digimon
>Gen7: they stole everything from Yo-Kai Watch + regional forms from Digimon
>Gen8: they stole dynamax from Bakugan
>Gen9: they are copying YGO's 5D's and now this
tendie pedos will defend and consoom like npc braindead morons because Twitter man told them it's good
Literally just list gimmicks from Japanese games and let's roll a dice
Koraidon witout fake wheel balloons
Rayquaza with legs
Does it come with a riding Kenobi? a la Calyrex
>Varactyl
Terryl whitlach should design pokemon.
Funnily enough, Palkia used it's cry in the movies.
Everytime i read Paldea, i couldn't stop thinking about Chaldea
Taking tools off the corpse of a fallen enemy is fair game in war, anon
Based. History will be rewritten, so gen Z and gen alpha PalDNAs will grow up believing Pokémon invented it.
>future folks will ironically believe pokemon invented rpg's and everything is a shitty copy of it
Nuke them
We live in a world of rewritten history and lies. It's just how society works.
>it’s ok when Pokémon does it