Pokmania

What actually killed Pokémania? Could anything have been done to save it, and if so, how much longer could it have lasted?

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  1. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 2 being dogshit with stupid designs

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      no its the best in the series you stupid gay c**t! go stick your head in a fricking blender

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      the only baby dogshit is you homosexual go stick your head in a fricking blender

  2. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What actually killed Pokémania?
    gen 2 with its half baked regions and baby garbage
    >Could anything have been done to save it
    no

    • 7 days ago
      banananonymous

      yes indeed the israelites ruined it

  3. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    what killed it was the people growing up during it thinking they're "too old" for pokemon and then just going full cynical, of course the time between that and the big bang theory (which ruined the internet as we know it) was a mere few years and then it became "cool" to like surface-level nerd shit

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf that's gen 3 or 4

  4. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Game Freak shoving GENWUN Pokemon everywhere during Gen 2 instead of giving Gen 2 Pokemon any love or attention

  5. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What actually killed Pokémania?
    The first batch of kids growing up.
    >ould anything have been done to save it
    Not really.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      It was more the normalgays who bought into the new hotness started leaving in droves when the thing turned out to be a kiddyshit thing again. In case you missed it, kids been growing out of it every Gen to be replaced by new kids. But the adults largely stayed away from Nintendo handhelds after Game Boy except for DS and now Switch. It's no surprise they're breaking GS sales totals today, when they're on a system the actual adult normalgay gamers bought.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        >It was more the normalgays who bought into the new hotness started leaving in droves when the thing turned out to be a kiddyshit thing again
        So the very thing I said?
        And how could pokemon be kiddy again if it just started?

        >kids been growing out of it every Gen to be replaced by new kids.
        Yeah, for post Gen 2 gens.

        • 7 days ago
          Anonymous

          >The first batch of kids growing up.
          Didn't grow out of pokémania, you moronic little afterbirth. The adults who tagged along did, the kids still ate that shit up until they turned teenager in Gen 3. So no, not what you said at all, because the drones still droned, yet sales and interest fell off massively.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            you very clearly weren't there.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I'm 40 fricking years old kid. Not only was I there, but we were poor, so I got Red at christmas '99 instead of a Playstation (which I bought myself with gift vouchers 2 days after christmas). I dipped after GS, when I was too poor to buy crystal or upgrade (like many other adults, who never saw the point in "last (two) home hardware system games only now portable" and pogeymans). I returned with DS and been here since, but I remember the talking heads all saying this fad would die away in the midst of 2000. It withered alright, but its model ensured as long as they had the kids, it couldn't die. Strangely enough, 16m kids and a few oldgays owned a GBA and RSFRLGE, ensuring it got a mini-revival on DS before WiiU and 3DS forced Nintendo to cull its portable division, finally lining pokémon back up with normalgay awareness by appearing on potentially the highest-selling system ever (leading to an increase on sales that bested Gen 2's mid-pokémania bump).

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It was more the normalgays who bought into the new hotness started leaving in droves when the thing turned out to be a kiddyshit thing again. In case you missed it, kids been growing out of it every Gen to be replaced by new kids. But the adults largely stayed away from Nintendo handhelds after Game Boy except for DS and now Switch. It's no surprise they're breaking GS sales totals today, when they're on a system the actual adult normalgay gamers bought.

      Natural fad decay as a result of the kids who first latched onto Pokemon growing up coupled with Sony being right there with the PS2. That batch clung onto Sony as a result, and the younger kids, wanting to emulate their superiors, similarly dropped Pokemon, especially not helped that the consolewars were reigniting with the "Mature Sony Games VS Kiddie Nintendo Land" angle, that shit killed Pokemon on the gaming side outside of autists and especially young kids who weren't aware of any of that.
      Meanwhile on the show side kids were getting bored of how shitty and aimless Johto felt (which it in fact was, thanks to executive meddling forcing them to LITERALLY drop the ball with Kurt and hope no one noticed the quality drop all for the sake of Pokemon 4Ever) while other media was popping up into cultural relevancy.
      Even TCGgays had Yu-Gi-Oh to look at now, both as a physical medium and as a video game.

      I think if Pokemon made more effort to "grow" with its original fanbase, like Sonic did, instead of just ditching them for the next round of kids, it could have lasted longer

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >like Sonic did
        You mean the very thing that turned Sonic into a long time joke with gamers? Say what you will about the quality of the Adventure games as far as they stand with the rest of the franchise, people outside of the Sega fanbase saw them as melodramatic and overtly cheesy. It wasn't until the Boost era did people look back on these fondly.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Hello, I see you're talking about things you don't know anything about. Allow me to correct you. The Adventure games are the best selling Sonic games in Japan by a mile. The thing that turned Sonic into a joke was the games AFTER that which tried to reverse course after journos got mad that Sonic had a story. This is similar to the Megaman brand, which was destroyed by western journalists giving even the best games poor reviews because they didn't like the brand.

          Meanwhile Pokemon, being made by Nintendo, never suffered this issue. Pokemon will always be coddled by journos, as you can see from the reception to BBND and Sword and Shield - journos will always resort to crocodile tears and hurling accusations to protect corporate products they like.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Hello, I see you're talking about things you don't know anything about. Allow me to correct you.
            I understand what you're trying to do and I totally get what you're saying but the attitude of this condescending remark earned you a jak.

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              shartyjak

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >its le journos fault
            I don't like Journalists too anon, but have you considered that maybe, the sonic games after adventure 2 were absolute dogshit?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >journos are.................................................le good!

              get knifed

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >I think if Pokemon made more effort to "grow" with its original fanbase, like Sonic did
        lmao it would've killed the franchise and its appeal instead.

  6. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 3 easily

  7. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    The hop from G2 to G3 was rough. Took too long, people dropped off.

    Then from a quality standpoint, every game from simultaneous international release is butts.

  8. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon was never good. Nothing could have saved it

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      nah it is pretty damn good you're just a miserable Gankergay who will never be happy

  9. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    What killed Pokemania is the same thing that killed every other fad, the persistence of time. Compared to something like Transformers, that fell off hard for years until they had a second fad and were still floundering a little until the live action films, Pokemon did shockingly well for itself. Aside from maybe the games under-performing during the DS and Switch eras, compared to their contemporaries and overall install base of the consoles, they've been plugging along alright as a franchise.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Thing is, Pokémon never died, like Transformers or any other IP you wanna name. It dropped out of favour with the world at large, but kids still interacted with it (16.5m wasn't it for RS?) enough to keep it ticking until kids went to college or grew up and re-discovered it as adults. And because it had been growing its audience from 1996 (fair, most of Gen 1 players who left likely didn't return. But what about their kids?), it's now got an authentic fanbase behind it, rather one that has an audience, just because it became popular for 10 minutes (coughpalworldcough).

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      > from maybe the games under-performing during the DS and Switch eras
      They thrived on both those eras,specially on teh switch.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You missed the rest of the sentence
        >compared to their contemporaries and overall install base of the consoles
        The GameBoy(Color) sold very well, and Pokemon games on it generally sold very well in comparison to other games on that system. The GBA and to a lesser extent the 3DS sold low to middling, but Pokemon was a top seller on both those consoles (I'm convinced the only reason the GBA wasn't a complete sales disaster is because of Pokemon, as a matter of fact). On the other hand, the DS and Switch games merely sold better than their predecessors (and BW unfortunately didn't even manage that), while other franchises on the same consoles dramatically outsold them. They got a bump because of a larger install base, yes, but Pokemon didn't sell those consoles like it did with the GBA. Hell, I'd argue the opposite and say that they thrived more on the DS than the Switch. SS only sold about 5 million more than shit like DP, XY, or RS. Compare that to any other big Nintendo franchise that isn't Animal Crossing (which is a bit of a special case) and you'll see how more dramatic the sales are for those compared to Pokemon merely doing slightly better.

  10. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing happened, you're like 35 now so you're not part of pokemania anymore because it was always for kids.

  11. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    Natural fad decay as a result of the kids who first latched onto Pokemon growing up coupled with Sony being right there with the PS2. That batch clung onto Sony as a result, and the younger kids, wanting to emulate their superiors, similarly dropped Pokemon, especially not helped that the consolewars were reigniting with the "Mature Sony Games VS Kiddie Nintendo Land" angle, that shit killed Pokemon on the gaming side outside of autists and especially young kids who weren't aware of any of that.
    Meanwhile on the show side kids were getting bored of how shitty and aimless Johto felt (which it in fact was, thanks to executive meddling forcing them to LITERALLY drop the ball with Kurt and hope no one noticed the quality drop all for the sake of Pokemon 4Ever) while other media was popping up into cultural relevancy.
    Even TCGgays had Yu-Gi-Oh to look at now, both as a physical medium and as a video game.

  12. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >pic related
    SOUL

  13. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What actually killed Pokémania?
    It was a fad. They fade out with time. Just like Pokemon GO. It just downgraded from a maniacal fad to just being popular. It's actually quite the achievement when 99.9% of fads just die completely, yet pokemon has reached the mainstream popularity surge twice now without dying.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    As a 32 year old Boomer I can say that Yu Gi Oh being a little more mature brought me away from Pokemon which seemed relatively kiddy at the time. I got Gold version but I distinctly remember pre-teen kids who were the first generation of fans saying Pokemon was kiddy and for babies so a lot of us dropped it.

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I remember thinking that the shillmons in gen 3 look like shit when I'd see it in ads.
    The problem is that gamefrick just didn't actually care, if they wanted to they could've kept it going for at least a little while longer by not being fricking moronic, but that's impossible.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The gap between gen 1 and 2, and then gen 2 and 3 were too long and the anime was filler between those gens 2, kids had time to lose interest and find something else.

    No, but the drop off could have been reduced

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What actually killed Pokémania?
    jews

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If we're being honest, it was this. Nobody wanted to buy another new handheld for how short lived the gameboy color was to begin with.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Weirdest take considering that the original pokemon released in september of 1998, while the GBC didn't release until november.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I do think he's not technically incorrect. The poor sales of the GBA probably negatively impacted Pokemon sales, or at least forced Gen 3 to carry the entire console by itself.

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Babies
    Having to start over your collection
    Ugly designs that don't look like pokemon

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemania was just an escalated fad. Like power rangers a few years before (which lasted about half as long)
    Nothing could have been done to save it because most people were tired of it.
    Ash losing the pokemon league due to team rocket tiring out all his pokemon and charizard throwing instead of showing up as a BAMF moment with him exiting the tournament crying like a b***h also soured it for everyone.
    TCG hype had already died by this point too. Orange islands existing in general killed any momentum it had.

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The millennials grew up and the games didnt really evolve

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 3 killed Pokemania by the jump to a new console and significant change in design philosophy. Gamefreak was so scared of ending Pokemania with Gen 3 yet they did.

    It didn't help that the Johto anime was really bad, so the anime couldn't be used to bolster RS's lack of appeal. People also forget that vanilla Ruby and Sapphire are dogshit without the changes brought by Emerald. Literally half a game.

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I find it amusing some morons would point the finger at another gen’s fault but fail to realize the obvious fact of human beings being mindless trend hoppers that get bored after a year
    >hmmm gee why don’t politicians talk about pokego to the polls anymore
    >gee what happened to the logan paul pokemon card hype?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get whats so bad about Pokemon naturally leaving the cultural zeitgeist for a while because its realistically unsustainable.

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    GBA gens were not kind to Pokemon

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Crystal with the lowest sales out of any pokemon game.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      GBAtard cope

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It was bound to happen just by the nature of a "mania" itself, which is generally short-lived. The games still sold well absurdly well; i would say the breaking point was R/S/E, which oficially departed from Kanto, etc.

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What actually killed Pokémania?

    There's no legitimate reason to come back to pokemon after playing red/blue or yellow. You play one, played them all

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    From 2002 to 2012 liking Pokemon was seen as uncool, it was the era where everything had to be super realistic and have brown filter over media

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >it was the era where everything had to be super realistic and have brown filter over media

      Or there were better and innovative games coming out year by year

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Buddy, the video games industry entered a tailspin during the 2000s thanks to the FPS deluge. It was indie games which rescued it.
        There were not more innovative games to play.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        not during that era homosexual what i like to call the dark age of gaming

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          lol okay, just think of all the kids or teens Pokemon lost to games like GTA, wow, CoD, persona, league of legends, dota, counter strike , dark souls etc etc and almost never looked back

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Unirconically pic related.
    The fricking speed kids dropped pokemon once they got a bit older is astounding.
    When it ended I just started middle school. First day back from summer break and suddenly all of my friends were too cool to talk pokemon.
    I remember at the time thinking "motherfricker we just mystery gifted not even a week ago".

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I remember XY and 3DS having a boost by college aged people, I was still high school in 2010 so it still felt gen 5 was being played secretly

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Same to the fricking T

  30. 5 days ago
    Anonymous
  31. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Pokemon is more popular now than it has *ever* been. There's no burger king toys because those aren't important in 2024.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      People are more concerned about BK toys meanwhile you can buy OFFICIAL pokemon merch at the nearest walmart/target and see giant Pikachu and Eevee humping each other on national television every thanksgiving , also pokemon cards being scalped by the week

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yup. The reality is that a lot of us grew up with it, became "too cool" for it in adolescence, and weren't aware that it remained popular all the while. Even at it's least popular (gen 5), the franchise was still everyfrickingwhere.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          op just misses being a child

  32. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >What killed pokemania?
    The passage of time
    >Could it have been saved?
    Maybe it could've been prolonged by a couple of years, but it would've died at some point in the 00s anyway

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