>protagonist is happy and content
>timeskip
>now he's old and miserable and alone with no family or friends
I fucking hate this shit so much. This ain't just MGS either, why do a ton of games do this?
>protagonist is happy and content. >timeskip
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well thats what happens when you get old in just a few years
the characters reflect the creators life, especially Snake in 4
Kratos becoming a dad is another one
The fact that Kratos went through all that shit and ended up with a decent life with his son is honestly pretty cool
If he was semi mortal he would have died a long time ago, thus no redemption arc. Hes maybe 1,000 years old
Honestly gods who live forever have it rough. Theres always the possibility of your kin doing something extremely retarded and killing themselves due to ego.
Kratos was a dad in the first game.
old people are losers
Rip
It hits harder because it's how real life works.
Your greatest successes in youth will eventually feel very distant and meaningless when you're a decrepit old man.
once alzheimers hits all you will remember is your youth anyway
no anon, you dont remember anything you attain a state of perpetual "where are my keys" where you think you remember something and then it drifts away as you think you sort of remember something else, its even worse than just forgetting
>no family or friends
The fuck do you think Otacon and Sunny were?
Sunny was afraid of him and Otacon was some nerd who changed his diapers
You'll understand once you're older, kiddo.
I don't wanna
Growing old fucking sucks. You realize you wasted your youth imagining your adult years would make up for a shit childhood. But then it's just worse and you look tired all the time and work is killing all your soul. So then you retroactively kick yourself for not enjoying your youth more, because the end result was misery regardless.
>t. just hit 30 and thinks it's over
I'm 25 with no free time.
I spent all my money on toys and vidya.
It's my childhood dream comes true, what's your point?
He had the same family and friends as before, ie: Otacon
>old and miserable
Bro the end of MGS2 is only 5 years before the start of MGS4 (2009--->2014).
that's cuz solid snake ages rapidly due to being a clone
Can you imagine how Snake must've felt when he woke up and realized he had grey hair and wrinkles
getting old does that to a mf
>The real Old Snake was you all along
YOU WERE THE LIGHTNING IN THAT RAIN!
What do you mean? Snakes circumstances were always based on the mission. Even his supposed friend frank jaeger he ended up killing. Otacon was still there but his life had always been lonely, that was the nature of it from the start.
Snake has more family in friends in 4 than any other MGS game, like his only friend at the start of 1 is Gray Fox and maybe Campbell and Kaz but in 4 he has Otacon, Sunny, Campbell, Mei Ling, Meryl, Raiden, Rose, even Naomi, guys support group in bigger than ever in that game
Yeah, this
It's just that he's literally fucking dying
>protagonist is happy and content
Snake is a genetically engineered government sponsored infiltrator with a shortened lifespan who has only known death and war- he comes to an understanding of his place hes not happy you child.
>expecting an unfathomably large war machine at which his lineage is directly connected to, to leave him alone for the rest of his life
i fucking hate YOU so much, not that you want a happy ending but because youre so averse to full conclusions of plots because you want "and he lived happily ever after and nothing bad ever happened again" small contained fables instead of articulation and a journey to achieve peace- which is what the larger narrative is about
"hero saves his village from bandit gang and grows old with his new wife" is not as good a story as "hero goes on journey to rid the world of the monarchy that sponsors the bandits" wholesale"
Autism the post
>"I HATE YOU FOR HAVING AN OPINION!"
im allowed to call an opinion shit as much as you are allowed to have it. trying to hide behind "its my opinion" is only a means to protect yourself from being called an idiot. fuck off. too many retards about to be respecting opinions
You're allowed to do anything, doesn't make it less autistic
*you less autistic
i dont think anyone in this thread could be more autistic than you for getting triggered over a videogame discussion on a videogame board because someone disagreed with an attitude. do you want to talk about MGS and struggle or do you just want to be a bitch and cry?
My guy you literally started a shouting about how you hate someone for having an opinion that's the very definition of autism
>Gets humiliated and punked by his 80 year old formerly-dead father
Solid Snake looks older then Naked Snake
>top tier physique and intellect throughout whole life
>in a few years lose that and become an old man with one foot in the grave that needs a suit to function
imagine having it all then losing it for no reason
many such athletes
wait until you find out about real life
I dont know how the hell you can construe Metal Gear Solid 2 as having a happy ending for Snake, MGS4 is infinitely less depressing than 2
>things are good
>then things go to shit
almost like that's life or something. humans are drawn to tragedy in fiction for a reason, it's relatable.
>happy and content
He’s only ever content when murdering people
easy way for hack writers to add drama to a completed story while posturing as """realistic"""
This.
MGS1 will forever remain the best game in the series in terms of narrative because it doesn't espouse themes of deconstructionism, satire, meta commentary, pessimism, etc. Something changed in Kojima the second the sequels started rolling out. We went from
>You can surpass your genes, your past, to become greater than what you were.
to
>Actually, your genes do in fact define who you are. You can't escape it. Now enjoy withering away from advanced aging thanks to said genetics while you get cucked by a man with perpetual diarrhea.
Pic semi related
>deconstruction is…LE BAD!!!
And even if your outlook is “you can change your future” there’s not much you will ever be able to do about a genetic defect. It’s about living despite that defect. There’s no cure for what you’re born with.
>t. Listens to Linkin Park while cutting himself
>Tolkien-autist doesn’t understand nuance
Mgs4 isn’t even that “pessimistic,” they prevailed in the end. That’s nothing compared to the original ending Kojima wanted where Snake and Otacon get executed for war crimes. The fact that you take OPs false premise at face value is strike one, and posting a Ganker reply pwn is strike two. You are a midwit.
Not to mention MGS2 ends on an incredibly similar note to 1. So he isn’t correct there either.
Big Boss dies in a graveyard of his comrades with only his genetic abomination of a clone, who is half dead from injury and accelerated aging, stil lclutching the signature weapon of a dead woman he has deified for decades. Solid Snake dies probably by peacefully in a bed after leaving behind a true brother, married longtime compatriot, reinvigorated protege and surrogate daughter after dismantling a global control network and coming to terms with the purpose of his life. nobody is going to miss Big Boss, there are plenty of people who are going to miss Solid Snake
the fact broski didnt realise any of this means hes probably a weeb who wants a one-and-done anime wrap up with warm feelings because hes a midwit
>nobody is going to miss Big Boss, there are plenty of people who are going to miss Solid Snake
By the time MGS4 happens Big Boss exists in the public conscienceless as a legendary warrior and hero while nobody but other black ops spooks like Raiden know who Snake is or respect him, in fact a recurring theme going back all the way to MG2 and Zanzibarland is that most people hate Snake but loved and idolized Big Boss.
you forget about mgs2?
SPOILER: being the hero kinda fucking sucks sometimes.
That’s the point you discord retard.
That’s why no one likes you.
is happy and content
>>now he's old and miserable and alone with no family or friends
literally me when I was kid vs adult me
One?