These little light ripples on the edge of the disc, are these normal? Does this mean my disc has been resurfaced?
Tried asking Ganker but you know how helpful they are. Hope some anons can identify this for me, have a high value eBay item riding on this
>he buys games
Nigga just mod your PS2 and load games off an HDD. Faster loading times too which make games like RE Outbreak actually playable instead of looking at loading screens for 25% of your entire playtime
Noooo, stop owning things, nooooo!
I own a hard drive, all the while not having BPD spending behaviours
Oh is this anon trying to convince me to buy a fake disc or something
You own plastic and paper. Someone who owns the game on another form of storage owns the actual playable video game as much as you except they didn't pay for it and they can back it up to reduce the risks of ever losing it. If we're talking about the actual game and not the packaging and manual, the person who owns a backup actually owns the game more than you
>owning physical
>can still back it up
>somehow this provides less options than not owning physical
lmao
Blame the other guy for not answering your question and bringing some digitalism homosexualry into it.
True but I didn’t want this to be a conflict thread I just want to find out if I’m getting screwed with the disc quality, can all you guys channel your energy fighting over digital/physical into telling me what the light shards are
>less options
Oh no, I can't play it on disc with longer loading times and pay $40 for 20 years old games
*$400
>copefags coping about not owning anything of worth
>i-it's actually more real!
What do you own that is worth something? Not talking about what retards are willing to pay for plastic and paper
The game
Someone with the game on an HDD owns the actual playable game as much as you
>*takes screenshot of your post*
i own you now
I'm literally not coping because I don't have BPD to cope with
Discs are cool, and properly stored they can last longer than most HDDs and SSDs. But at the end of the day, I'm just not good at storing discs properly lol. I'm not a neat person, it's a major skill issue. So I put my games on hard drives to save myself the heartache of ruining something I spent money on to own.
Plus I also live in a humid environment, so I would have to work harder to keep discs dry. And I don't know if it's possible to protect discs from humidity when they're in use on an actual console. I'd rather responsible collectors have these things instead of me. At the very least I can rest well knowing that nobody can remotely revoke my access to my HDDs/SSDs data, and I can't fuck them up as easily as I can for discs, so I cope.
If I were playing on a modern console like PS5/Xeries, I can see how relying on storage devices could be an issue. They CAN revoke your data over the internet, which most games nowadays require to play thanks to Day0/Day1 patching. Everything on those consoles are just licenses, which is where this cross-conception of "You don't own the data on your HDD/SSD" comes from.
This guy gets it. Physical is better long-term storage than drives. Agree with everything said. Revokability is real. No one can revoke a disc, and if somehow they wanted to, it's shootin' time.
>This guy gets it. Physical is better long-term storage than drives. Agree with everything said. Revokability is real. No one can revoke a disc, and if somehow they wanted to, it's shootin' time.
Damn straight. My discs shall not be infringed. If they try, their lives shall be infringed with impunity.
Damnit asshole now everyone’s responding to you instead of helping me
Guys please does anyone know what this is
the pattern is part of the copy protection
Really? The light shards around the edge? I don’t see it on any other pictures of the disc from other listings though, is it just this guy’s lighting setup?
What do you mean, i own all the games on my hard drive and all the discs i burned, who is gonna take them away?
you don't own shit just like the cuck you replied to doesn't own anything but they actually paid money for the anything
you own a game when you have multiple backups of the source code
I’ve planned on this eventually so I can play region locked games like Siren 2, but I have a pretty extensive collection and I’ve been wanting to get this one for a while. Just need to figure out if it’s refurbished/buffed or not
>you can't use physical media because... because... you just can't, ok??
I think it's upside down.
you gotta turn it the other way
Hue hue I posted it right-side up too
I’m just talking about the edges
It’s not disc rot is it?
>layStation 2
It's disc rot, it's over, OP.
Disc rot isn't real
First stage of grief: denial.
First stage of gay: deception
I pirate everything, I only buy games I really love physically, just because they look pretty on the shelf. even then I would never pay 400 fucking dollars for a single 20 year old game
These, more or less. Of course I'm trying to save money, but given the option, I'm always going to own the things I care about.
Never seen that before OP, besides resurfaced disc still have scratches left
Anti ownership homosexuals should be shot on the head
>Anti ownership homosexuals
Who the fuck are you talking about?
Anon, have you noticed problems breathing? Headaches? Vision changes? Dizziness?
Anon, have you considered testing your home for radon?
funny you made this thread OP because i just noticed this the other day and was wondering about it also. my gut is to say that it's just a manufacturing defect that occurs with some discs, and it isn't worth paying to fix because it doesn't effect the performance. however i've noticed that a few discs i have which i know for a fact have been resurfaced, many of them have these ridges. when i say resurfaced, i'm not talking about the cheap kind of resurfacing that leaves a hazy, scratched surface. there are really good resurfacing machine you can buy which will make the disc look brand new. there's a store near me that sells old games, and every time i buy a game with scratches i ask the guy if he wouldn't mind resurfacing it, and it comes out spotless. so your disc can definitely look brand new and still have those ridges. food for thought.
The only people who "own" games are publishers/devs or other right holders. When you pay for a game you only pay for the right to use it, why you can't profit from making other people playing the game you bought unless you pay for a special license for that, for example.
Some publishers even go as far as considering that you have no legitimacy to enjoy the game/movie/whatever if you got it second handed or rented it hence the "not for resale / rental" signs.
This is why most collectors only talk about the plastic and the cardboard and the paper and don't even play half of the games they buy, if the point is "owning things" then this makes a lot of sense since it's the only thing they own.
Sounds like a modern issue. If you own games before they started just making them temporary download licenses, yes, you own the game and no one can take it away from you except by physical force.
The PS2 can cut a pattern into discs if it dropped or moved too much while playing. I don't know if that is what the pic is, but I remember that being a thing that happened. If it's on many discs then it probably isn't that.
What you're seeing might be the wobble groove.
PS1 and PS2 discs are mastered with a "wobble groove" that is used as a copy protection measure, as most consumer CD and DVD burners can't recreate this.
PS1 discs used it for region information, and PS2 discs used it to store a decryption key for the Sony Computer Entertainment logo screen.
Oh yeah sorry for the derail. A Google search would probably help more here. This phenomenon is not exclusive to PS2 discs and, as far as I can tell as a non-collector, is harmless. Best source I've found is here, which clarifies that these imperfections are harmless and are not a sign of disc rot. https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/384859/is-this-normal-on-dvd-bluray-game-discs
As for whether it's a sign of bad things to come, I'm not sure even collectors would know if this is a sign of a disc that's doomed for disc rot in the near future.
Disc mold defect
normal shit