If we do not get a battle facitliy in the DLC I will honestly stop preordering new pokemon games. I will just look on serebii after release if the game has one. No facility = no buy. I am a pure soloplayer and the ingame cp facilities is the only thing that keeps me playing after finishing the story. And the story alone is no reason for me to buy a pokemon game which has at most 25 h stories that most times are even not thought through at all. I would love to keep playing my violet verion but having no reason to ev my mons or to lever over 70 made me drop it yesterday. Why keep playing if I will just oneshot everything throughout the whole postgame? Thankfully there is pokemon quetzal which will update with the gen 9 mons someday. It has the emerald tower so it may even replace buying new gen games for me now. Sad but oh well. Hopefully unova remakes get no "battle subway project startet". Bleh.
I remember redditrannies using it as an excuse for sinking 500 hours into the game under a month.
Fricking got to solo it on my friends Switch to Master Ball under a handful of hours.
Fricking dog water.
ace tournament is supposed to just be the elite 4 rematch, which is well enough. battle facilities aren't thought about at all it seems, since there wouldn't be any incentive right now to play them because every item can just be bought for some cash
The reason to play battle facilities is not to get items but to enjoy competitive battles in singleplayer. Without one you have no reason to ev-train not even level to 100 if you plan on playing solo...
They're not necessarily Randomly Generated.
The movesets all seem cookie cutter across the board where in Singles you'll always guarantee see 2 out of 3 Pokemon paired up, while the 3rd is the wild card.
Online is boring >No rewards >Have to wait before each battle >Legendary spam
I feel like the ai is smarter than the many braindead people playing online
I know showdown exists but that doesn't fix the games
Not having a battle tower killed any interest in playing the game beyond dex completion. There is quite literally no point in doing raids or raising Pokemon when I can just play Showdown.
They cut so many things from this that make even less sense than no battle tower too >no save file playtime >no disabling battle animations >no shift/set mode
All three of those were around since Japanese Red and Green, so they’re cutting stuff that’s been in place since back when they were even worse at coding than today.
Other stuff they cut or changed: >no E4 + champion refights (again, something that’s been a thing since RG) >no Pokerus (been a thing since Gen 2, mechanically means EV training is horrible if you don’t want to grind up the half million+ to vitamin instead) >professors break the naming trend of being named after trees that’s been a thing since Oak >no separate rooms for each E4 member, which even RG did >gym challenges don’t even take place in the actual gyms anymore and are mostly completely menial garbage and maybe a trainer or two if you get lucky >taking classes in a Pokemon game when kids played Pokemon to get away from classes >regular breeding (picnics are hell to get eggs from) >reusable TMs, and somehow making getting more copies even more aggravating than in SwSh or BDSP >no ingame lottery (staple since Gen 2, and with enough trading a reliable daily source of PP Ups and Rare Candies) >level cap being PLA style instead of only applying to traded mons, while understandable for balance means you can’t have situations where you manage to catch something drastically stronger than anything you have and cruise to victory on it (like the Dugtrio in Diglett Tunnel or going for Zapdos early in Gen 1, or somehow shoving a legendary beast into a ball early on in Gen 2) >possibly move transfers when that’s been a thing since Gen 1 -> Gen 2
There’s so many things they didn’t do that were series staples it makes me feel like these are just fangames
Disabling battle animations is gone? wow. I think they clearly must've had lots of trouble adapting battles to the overworld so sacrificed a lot for it. So much shit cut for open world.
>Pokerus gone
kino is gone, I suppose it doesn't matter but stil l sad
>>no separate rooms for each E4 member, which even RG did
that's good though because the members interact with each other, just wish the room at least changed colors since it looks like it could
The Crystal Battle Tower is still the most bullshit BT in the franchise IMO, and it's why I love it so much. I built a team on cart specifically for the BT and still haven't gotten past 3 or 4 battles in a row.
Crystal is by far my favorite game in the series, but it is one of the worst Battle Towers. I did not understand that shit when I was 10 years old at all.
The real crime is removing the Battle Factory. It was such a great idea. No need for raising a team beforehand, not as much bullshit RNG as some of the other facilities, just jump straight in and battle to your best ability.
To think that this used to be the bare minimum.
remember when people used to joke that the battle tower in the sinnoh remake would be get cut and you would have to pay....well....
I am so sad
If we do not get a battle facitliy in the DLC I will honestly stop preordering new pokemon games. I will just look on serebii after release if the game has one. No facility = no buy. I am a pure soloplayer and the ingame cp facilities is the only thing that keeps me playing after finishing the story. And the story alone is no reason for me to buy a pokemon game which has at most 25 h stories that most times are even not thought through at all. I would love to keep playing my violet verion but having no reason to ev my mons or to lever over 70 made me drop it yesterday. Why keep playing if I will just oneshot everything throughout the whole postgame? Thankfully there is pokemon quetzal which will update with the gen 9 mons someday. It has the emerald tower so it may even replace buying new gen games for me now. Sad but oh well. Hopefully unova remakes get no "battle subway project startet". Bleh.
>even BDSP had a battle tower
i considered it dead after usum. didn't swsh nerf the absolute shit out of it? the signs were there
I remember redditrannies using it as an excuse for sinking 500 hours into the game under a month.
Fricking got to solo it on my friends Switch to Master Ball under a handful of hours.
Fricking dog water.
Is there anything to do post game besides collecting "rare tera types" for no reason ?
dlc trust the plan 5 unused towers in levincia
I think the battle facility this gen is supposed to be the Ace tournament? But it has 0 difficult teams really.
ace tournament is supposed to just be the elite 4 rematch, which is well enough. battle facilities aren't thought about at all it seems, since there wouldn't be any incentive right now to play them because every item can just be bought for some cash
>ace tournament is supposed to just be the elite 4 rematch
Yeah makes sense, but it could have been a PWT style facility.
The reason to play battle facilities is not to get items but to enjoy competitive battles in singleplayer. Without one you have no reason to ev-train not even level to 100 if you plan on playing solo...
this is true but little timmy won't engage with the battle facilities at all if there's no carrot on a stick
Weird how a facility with randomly generated teams is pretty hard
They're not necessarily Randomly Generated.
The movesets all seem cookie cutter across the board where in Singles you'll always guarantee see 2 out of 3 Pokemon paired up, while the 3rd is the wild card.
Since Game Freak decided in all their wisdom to make the fricking third legendary DLC, my bet is that they also made the Battle Tower DLC.
>the battle tower project has started!
Doubtful.
Never got the appeal of most battle facilities, why not just play online? At least the Battle Frontier had some cute gimmicks.
Online is boring
>No rewards
>Have to wait before each battle
>Legendary spam
I feel like the ai is smarter than the many braindead people playing online
I know showdown exists but that doesn't fix the games
Because you don't need an internet connection for them, and they're still there in dead gens.
normal battle tower sucks anyways
Oh please, nobody actually liked the rngfest facilities.
>rngfest
git gud
Not having a battle tower killed any interest in playing the game beyond dex completion. There is quite literally no point in doing raids or raising Pokemon when I can just play Showdown.
They cut so many things from this that make even less sense than no battle tower too
>no save file playtime
>no disabling battle animations
>no shift/set mode
All three of those were around since Japanese Red and Green, so they’re cutting stuff that’s been in place since back when they were even worse at coding than today.
Other stuff they cut or changed:
>no E4 + champion refights (again, something that’s been a thing since RG)
>no Pokerus (been a thing since Gen 2, mechanically means EV training is horrible if you don’t want to grind up the half million+ to vitamin instead)
>professors break the naming trend of being named after trees that’s been a thing since Oak
>no separate rooms for each E4 member, which even RG did
>gym challenges don’t even take place in the actual gyms anymore and are mostly completely menial garbage and maybe a trainer or two if you get lucky
>taking classes in a Pokemon game when kids played Pokemon to get away from classes
>regular breeding (picnics are hell to get eggs from)
>reusable TMs, and somehow making getting more copies even more aggravating than in SwSh or BDSP
>no ingame lottery (staple since Gen 2, and with enough trading a reliable daily source of PP Ups and Rare Candies)
>level cap being PLA style instead of only applying to traded mons, while understandable for balance means you can’t have situations where you manage to catch something drastically stronger than anything you have and cruise to victory on it (like the Dugtrio in Diglett Tunnel or going for Zapdos early in Gen 1, or somehow shoving a legendary beast into a ball early on in Gen 2)
>possibly move transfers when that’s been a thing since Gen 1 -> Gen 2
There’s so many things they didn’t do that were series staples it makes me feel like these are just fangames
>>no save file playtime
That's on your trainer card, it's just hidden.
They also got rid of the auto-load from sword & shield.
Where even is the trainer card?
It's buried under the pokedex menu.
What's auto-load?
Sword & Shield just threw you right into the game, skipping the title screen.
No it didn't. It still had a title screen, the same as SV. Just no save selection menu since that is made redundant now.
Disabling battle animations is gone? wow. I think they clearly must've had lots of trouble adapting battles to the overworld so sacrificed a lot for it. So much shit cut for open world.
>Pokerus gone
kino is gone, I suppose it doesn't matter but stil l sad
>>no separate rooms for each E4 member, which even RG did
that's good though because the members interact with each other, just wish the room at least changed colors since it looks like it could
The Crystal Battle Tower is still the most bullshit BT in the franchise IMO, and it's why I love it so much. I built a team on cart specifically for the BT and still haven't gotten past 3 or 4 battles in a row.
Crystal is by far my favorite game in the series, but it is one of the worst Battle Towers. I did not understand that shit when I was 10 years old at all.
The real crime is removing the Battle Factory. It was such a great idea. No need for raising a team beforehand, not as much bullshit RNG as some of the other facilities, just jump straight in and battle to your best ability.
bdsp was pure kino