smacking everything with your starter is ironically the easiest way to pay these games. There's some really bad design issues, but if you spread out to 4+ pokemon it becomes harder, maybe even challenging at some points
Double Battles were so misused in the mainline Gen 3 games. There's a NP storytime thread in the catalog and that issue has a preview of RS that really hypes up those double battles only for the final game to have it for one fight. Emerald adds a few more optional doubles in the routes and in the Mossdeep gym but those hardly take advantage of what makes the format unique and fun to play.
>create doubles to mix up gameplay >becomes the main VGC mode >can count the times you use it in the main game using both hands, doesn't even matter for the Elite Four
Emerald really helped in that regard, but still one of the stupidest issues that remains unresolved to this day for mainline Pokemon in general.
Casual fans really hate the format for some reason. It's one of the most common criticisms for the GameCube games besides the limited roster of Pokemon despite both games being well designed enough experiences on their own. Personally, I want a sequel to those games.
>if you spread out to 4+ pokemon it becomes harder, maybe even challenging at some points
I played FireRed a few months ago and tried to keep the team balanced as much as I could and avoided grinding for xp. I made it to elite 4 with 5 pokémon about level 45 to 50 and could not get past them. I had to go back and grind for more levels.
Pokémon balance issues comes down to two things in my opinion: Team composition and use of moves.
It is too easy because save for exceptional characters like the champion himself, every opponent will only have pokémon of a single type. A lot of time these single type teams will have unevolved pokémon as well and lastly they will not use decent moves. The games have difficult spikes when you play against opponents that have varied team types, evolved pokemon and actually use decent attack moves.
I won't blame them for not changing the formula that made Pokémon the single most valuable entertainment IP of all time. For how long, though?
Some of the games suffer from this big time. You spend the whole game fighting the same four five Pokemans and in the end use some of the rarer types like a few times top and still beat the game.
There is no way you did this recently. Only kids do that because they're too stupid to understand the basic mechanics. Then again, most of the "opinions" on this board are vague memories of childhood so I should just assume you played the game 15 years ago.
Hell, the discussion here will probably be way better than what you get out of the shithole this thread is probably supposed to be in.
Anyway, nice enough team. A little generic but the Ninjask is a unique enough addition to add a little challenge to an otherwise really easy game. Planning on doing the Battle Frontier? Contests? Building up a nice base? Personally, I like to get as much out of the experience as I can so I like to do everything. It might not be a popular opinion, but I always liked Emerald more than RBY and GSC.
I don't know if you skipped the desert area when you left Lavaridge, but in the top right corner of that area you'll get the choice between two fossils: Claw and Root. I chose claw for Armaldo. I think in Emerald you have to finish the exclusive Mirage Tower dungeon to get them to spawn.
oh yeah thats right i forgot about that. i did go through that and fought the trainers. in emerald a little tower appears and you gotta have the fast bike to traverse it. i'll do that later and grind it up or something
It has the best utility for at least the first half of the game, just get a Taillow to compliment it during the second gym and you'll breeze through a good chunk of the game with just those two.
Mudkip is pretty easy mode. Great stats, good typing, surf, ice beam, earthquake. Can't go wrong. Blaziken also is just straight up an easy pick. Sceptile is the only one that doesn't straight up sweep, always feels like it's just barely not KOing most of your opponents.
i did some of the contests and i built a small base. i will most likely play the frontier a little bit. battle steven. then be done. ninjask was kinda good imo. it just keeps increasing its speed like every turn. and using swords dance. it became a sweeper. it also has baton pass. so if its gonna get rekt. just pass it to someone else like the flygon
that bug pokemon is cute
i always just bruteforce my way into beating these games by just overleveling my starter.
that is the classic way to play these. level 85 charizard. level 10 to 30 rest of the team
Nice team, seeoing someone having a Bug type in any HoF is always neat thing to see but may I ask, why 2 water types? I feel that Swampert could fill that role perfectly aswell as having it carry Ground moves
Here's one from a randomized nuzlocke I did not too long ago on Ruby
I dont like having a hm slave pokemon. Id rather just have dive on a second pokemon and delete it later. I also needed the marill for rock smash early in the game and it had roll out which became pretty useful at some points with how powerful it can get. I tried a nuzlock on pokemon soulsilver a few weeks ago. I lost at the fighting gym. Didnt even lose one pokemon up to that point. Ill try that again some time in the near future. Also nice team.
I don't know if it's underrated or not, but I love Breloom's typing. Obviously you shouldn't send him up against anything with Flying STAB, but other than that he covers a lot of type advantages.
I love Scizor too, so maybe I just have a thing for dual-types with a 4x weakness.
It's slow, in a game that has as many water types as RSE, it's a challenge to use. Especially in Emerald where several major bosses specialize in water type Pokemon.
It's good in current gens since the buffed its base stats and gave it the Drought ability.
It wasn't good in Gen 3 due to having zero speed,and existing in a game where water types are everywhere. Still has decent physical bulk though, so it isn't completely unplayable if say you're using a randomizer.
Love the Taillow. It's the first regional bird that wasn't completely useless. 7.
Pikablue is garbage before gen 6, but is perfectly acceptable as an unorthodox HM Master. 8.
Chadjask >The Virgdinga. 7.
If you don't love Flygon you have no soul. 10.
Manectric does nothing for you on account of its trash learn set AND its lightning rod overworld ability slows down progress on top of that. 1.
I have no respect for Marshtomp pickers. 0.
Overall score: 5.5
Straight from summer 2005, 13 year old me’s team
I’m a Charizard shitter since I was a kid, but Flygon shares the title for my favorite Pokémon. He’s just such a clever concept. Since I was also really into Panzer Dragoon, I named mine Lagi, cause they’re both insect-like Dragons.
Picked Treecko because I love lizards and had a gecko
Gardevoir.. well I was 13.
aggron is just cool
Chose Azumarill for my water type because I remembered the “ pikablu “ days and wanted to finally use one since it was more available than in GSC.
Hariyama was useful. Would replace him first, though.
Overall,the first team I made that actually had decent planning. My FireRed team was like 4 flying types, my RBY and GS teams just leaned into leveling up my starters.
No kidding, that's so awesome. I see so many people with the foresight of taking snapshots or videos of themselves playing games when they were kids and I just never thought to do it. Wish I had a record of my first "proper" team, think it actually was with Emerald too. I was hard walled by Tate and Liza because I exclusively leveled up my Blaziken so I just reset and planned it all out to get past that one boss.
>I see so many people with the foresight of taking snapshots or videos of themselves playing games when they were kids and I just never thought to do it.
I actually took that photo that same minute; its just a crappy photo. My sad OCD is that I hate erasing old cart saves for RPGs, especially Pokemon. Just too many sentimental memories. Old shitmons and trade/battle records with friends I haven't seen in ages, friends who've died, girls I had a crush on, old girlfriends, cool big brother figures, random passerbys I met at meetups and cons.
I've been itching to replay Emerald on an original cart, too, but I just can't bring myself to erase this file. I know I can back it up on my computer and keep the original save and put it back in any time, but it just wouldn't be the same.I have a Sapphire cart I replay a lot but Emerald was just special.
Oh, well the sentiment is the same because I deleted the original save file to replay the game. I've done it so many times on so many games that whatever original team I had when these games first game out is a distant, distant memory.
Finally, a Gen 4 team. I played Pearl recently and I hated the experience so much, the game practically punishes you for wanting to engage with it in any way beyond just gunning it to the end credits. I'd share my team but I can't be asked to take the game out of its case anymore.
Gyarados (lead): >lum berry >HP flying, BP 68 >adamant >252 attack >enough speed to reach 121 at lv 50 >remaining EVs into defense
Swampert: >chesto berry >quiet >252 special attack >enough speed to reach 82 at lv 50 >remaining EVs into attack
Muk: >choice band >careful >252 special defense >enough speed to reach 82 at lv 50 >remaining EVs into attack
You really used Muk on all facilities?
I wanted to try Magcargo but I'm afraid it's just too weak as a mixed attacker and will die in one hit to most things.
Muk is a beast in gen 3. Sludge bomb is actually a very good move if you have the appropriate coverage elsewhere, and Muk uses it very well. It has great special bulk and good attack power (esp. with choice band). Above all else I found that the main trick to using it is understanding that almost all its matchups are heavily skewed in one direction. Most basically, if it's fighting a special attacker then it will destroy that opponent, but if it's fighting something with earthquake it's pretty much fricked. In particular it laughs at water types (that don't have earthquake), Muk can even take on some pokemon that pack Psychic since its special defense is just that good. Of course earthquake is pretty ubiquitous but when you're up against an AI that doesn't care for switching that isn't too big of a deal. Gyarados is immune to EQ and packs intimidate to weaken that opponent's other physical attacks on the switch.
Magcargo will get you nowhere sorry to say it's not even a good special attacker let alone a mixed attacker.
Yeah, I checked Muk's stats and saw that they are really good, but never imagined it would fare well in the Battle Frontier particularly because of it's typing.
>Magcargo will get you nowhere sorry to say it's not even a good special attacker let alone a mixed attacker.
It makes me sad how many cool pokémon were introduced in gen 3 but had garbage stats and typing.
What the frick was gamefreak thinking?
You mistakenly said he was gen 3, I was just correcting you bro.
I wish he was better too
1 year ago
Anonymous
Well, if I were feeling really pedantic, I could bring up the fact that I didn't actually say Magcargo is gen 3, I said "cool pokémon introduced in gen 3" without mentioning any one in particular. But since I'm not a pendatic homosexual, yeah, you are right, I really thought he was.
Anyways, I still have Magmar which is pretty good I suppose.
It's impossible to use. Slow, shitty offenses, and its competent defense is nullified by 4x weakness to EQ. I actually challenge you to find a worse fully evolved mon.
Gyarados (lead): >lum berry >HP flying, BP 68 >adamant >252 attack >enough speed to reach 121 at lv 50 >remaining EVs into defense
Swampert: >chesto berry >quiet >252 special attack >enough speed to reach 82 at lv 50 >remaining EVs into attack
Muk: >choice band >careful >252 special defense >enough speed to reach 82 at lv 50 >remaining EVs into attack
[...]
Muk is a beast in gen 3. Sludge bomb is actually a very good move if you have the appropriate coverage elsewhere, and Muk uses it very well. It has great special bulk and good attack power (esp. with choice band). Above all else I found that the main trick to using it is understanding that almost all its matchups are heavily skewed in one direction. Most basically, if it's fighting a special attacker then it will destroy that opponent, but if it's fighting something with earthquake it's pretty much fricked. In particular it laughs at water types (that don't have earthquake), Muk can even take on some pokemon that pack Psychic since its special defense is just that good. Of course earthquake is pretty ubiquitous but when you're up against an AI that doesn't care for switching that isn't too big of a deal. Gyarados is immune to EQ and packs intimidate to weaken that opponent's other physical attacks on the switch.
Magcargo will get you nowhere sorry to say it's not even a good special attacker let alone a mixed attacker.
You don't need perfect anything unless you are running really weak pokémon with very low chances to win anything.
If you have a team with decent coverage and BST you can still win with IVs in the 20s. Of course optimal IVs and EVs will increase your chances matematically.
No, but EVs help a lot, and only takes a couple of minutes if you're playing on emulator. Breeding for the right IVs is maximum turbo autismo tho. It's such a tedious enterprise that does it when competing for cash moneys.
>Breeding for the right IVs is maximum turbo autismo
It can take a very long time, on the other hand, you can find decent mons with good IVs (20+) in two or even three important stats pretty fast by just roaming around the route or cave it spawns in and catching a bunch of them.
Optimization is really not needed, unless you just want to beat the Battle Frontier as fast as possible, which means you're not even going to enjoy playing it anyway.
If 20+ is all you used to get all of the symbols, I don't think breeding them in Emerald wouldn't be all too difficult I don't think. Besides, I kind of like the time sink. I imagine I'll need to get them on every stat except for the attack stat they aren't going to make use of.
that bug pokemon is cute
i always just bruteforce my way into beating these games by just overleveling my starter.
smacking everything with your starter is ironically the easiest way to pay these games. There's some really bad design issues, but if you spread out to 4+ pokemon it becomes harder, maybe even challenging at some points
Double Battles were so misused in the mainline Gen 3 games. There's a NP storytime thread in the catalog and that issue has a preview of RS that really hypes up those double battles only for the final game to have it for one fight. Emerald adds a few more optional doubles in the routes and in the Mossdeep gym but those hardly take advantage of what makes the format unique and fun to play.
>create doubles to mix up gameplay
>becomes the main VGC mode
>can count the times you use it in the main game using both hands, doesn't even matter for the Elite Four
Emerald really helped in that regard, but still one of the stupidest issues that remains unresolved to this day for mainline Pokemon in general.
Casual fans really hate the format for some reason. It's one of the most common criticisms for the GameCube games besides the limited roster of Pokemon despite both games being well designed enough experiences on their own. Personally, I want a sequel to those games.
>if you spread out to 4+ pokemon it becomes harder, maybe even challenging at some points
I played FireRed a few months ago and tried to keep the team balanced as much as I could and avoided grinding for xp. I made it to elite 4 with 5 pokémon about level 45 to 50 and could not get past them. I had to go back and grind for more levels.
Pokémon balance issues comes down to two things in my opinion: Team composition and use of moves.
It is too easy because save for exceptional characters like the champion himself, every opponent will only have pokémon of a single type. A lot of time these single type teams will have unevolved pokémon as well and lastly they will not use decent moves. The games have difficult spikes when you play against opponents that have varied team types, evolved pokemon and actually use decent attack moves.
I won't blame them for not changing the formula that made Pokémon the single most valuable entertainment IP of all time. For how long, though?
Some of the games suffer from this big time. You spend the whole game fighting the same four five Pokemans and in the end use some of the rarer types like a few times top and still beat the game.
that's a hot looking chicken
u gay for that
no, that chicken is on fire. its way too hot for its own good. its gonna hurt somebody.
blaziken just completely fricks up the elite 4 by itself in r/s/e
There is no way you did this recently. Only kids do that because they're too stupid to understand the basic mechanics. Then again, most of the "opinions" on this board are vague memories of childhood so I should just assume you played the game 15 years ago.
Unless you pick the grass starter it's very easy to have a buff starter and "revive/full restore" teammates
Which bug? Bottom left is actually Dragon and Ground
Probably talking about Ninjask. Top right.
Hell, the discussion here will probably be way better than what you get out of the shithole this thread is probably supposed to be in.
Anyway, nice enough team. A little generic but the Ninjask is a unique enough addition to add a little challenge to an otherwise really easy game. Planning on doing the Battle Frontier? Contests? Building up a nice base? Personally, I like to get as much out of the experience as I can so I like to do everything. It might not be a popular opinion, but I always liked Emerald more than RBY and GSC.
Here's mine, since we're sharing
based af where do you get an armaldo?
I don't know if you skipped the desert area when you left Lavaridge, but in the top right corner of that area you'll get the choice between two fossils: Claw and Root. I chose claw for Armaldo. I think in Emerald you have to finish the exclusive Mirage Tower dungeon to get them to spawn.
oh yeah thats right i forgot about that. i did go through that and fought the trainers. in emerald a little tower appears and you gotta have the fast bike to traverse it. i'll do that later and grind it up or something
So we are all in argeement that marshstomp is the best starter in emerald
It has the best utility for at least the first half of the game, just get a Taillow to compliment it during the second gym and you'll breeze through a good chunk of the game with just those two.
The best starter in Hoenn, no matter the game
Mudkip is pretty easy mode. Great stats, good typing, surf, ice beam, earthquake. Can't go wrong. Blaziken also is just straight up an easy pick. Sceptile is the only one that doesn't straight up sweep, always feels like it's just barely not KOing most of your opponents.
it's the best, but the Treecko line is the coolest
i did some of the contests and i built a small base. i will most likely play the frontier a little bit. battle steven. then be done. ninjask was kinda good imo. it just keeps increasing its speed like every turn. and using swords dance. it became a sweeper. it also has baton pass. so if its gonna get rekt. just pass it to someone else like the flygon
that is the classic way to play these. level 85 charizard. level 10 to 30 rest of the team
Nice team, seeoing someone having a Bug type in any HoF is always neat thing to see but may I ask, why 2 water types? I feel that Swampert could fill that role perfectly aswell as having it carry Ground moves
Here's one from a randomized nuzlocke I did not too long ago on Ruby
I dont like having a hm slave pokemon. Id rather just have dive on a second pokemon and delete it later. I also needed the marill for rock smash early in the game and it had roll out which became pretty useful at some points with how powerful it can get. I tried a nuzlock on pokemon soulsilver a few weeks ago. I lost at the fighting gym. Didnt even lose one pokemon up to that point. Ill try that again some time in the near future. Also nice team.
Did this Emerald run a few weeks ago.
I don't know if it's underrated or not, but I love Breloom's typing. Obviously you shouldn't send him up against anything with Flying STAB, but other than that he covers a lot of type advantages.
I love Scizor too, so maybe I just have a thing for dual-types with a 4x weakness.
Nice team anon.
There is nothing wrong with having that many same types anon.
Good team anon, is Torkoal good? I never used it before and I really like it's design
It's slow, in a game that has as many water types as RSE, it's a challenge to use. Especially in Emerald where several major bosses specialize in water type Pokemon.
It's good in current gens since the buffed its base stats and gave it the Drought ability.
It wasn't good in Gen 3 due to having zero speed,and existing in a game where water types are everywhere. Still has decent physical bulk though, so it isn't completely unplayable if say you're using a randomizer.
>for me, it's torkoal
A man of taste
2 flying types 2 water types and 2 ground types.. cmon man you cant call yourself a real trainer until you have type autism like me
luv starmie
Awesome. Most of those are late game Pokemon that I usually see ignored.
Cool. Was the Electrode a random shiny or was it hunted?
completely random, as was the wingull in this pic.
Electrode's fun to use in gen 3, if only for the fact you can outspeed and explode
i can't remember what i used through emerald
i should do a play through again
its just i hated gen 3 at launch
i hated that they killed my team
there is a shareware device that lets you transfer monsters from gen 2 to gen 3 via link cable
the eshop 3ds titles were their admittance of their frickup
>buys red version
>transfers to yellow
>buys gold transfers to gold
>buys crystal transfers to crystal
>GEN 3 drops
gamefreak: LMAO FRICK THE FANS EVERYONE DIED
Technically you can still trade from gen 2 to 3 using some device someone made, let me fetch the YouTube video for you
I will go to my grave saying this game's graphics and sounds are peak pokemon
Despite having only 200 Pokemon in its regional dex, Hoenn had a lot of variety in its roster. Very fun to replay.
Gen 3 is absolutely ridiculous to finish the pokedex lol. Well the total dex
I thought you didn’t need Ho-oh or Lugia for Gen 3
So wouldn’t you only need the 5 core Gen 3 games in order to catch all the non-event mons?
IIRC, you also needed a few of the Gamecube games for a couple random Johtomons.
pretty sure the Emerald Safari Zone fixed that problem
The weirdest thing in Gen 3 is Slowpoke is ONLY in leafgreen.
>Despite having only 200 Pokemon in its regional dex
I thought you'd finish the sentence saying "they commit over 50% of all crimes"
Love the Taillow. It's the first regional bird that wasn't completely useless. 7.
Pikablue is garbage before gen 6, but is perfectly acceptable as an unorthodox HM Master. 8.
Chadjask >The Virgdinga. 7.
If you don't love Flygon you have no soul. 10.
Manectric does nothing for you on account of its trash learn set AND its lightning rod overworld ability slows down progress on top of that. 1.
I have no respect for Marshtomp pickers. 0.
Overall score: 5.5
>Pikablue is garbage
Huge Power Azumarill ain't bad
Gen 3 tho. There's no physical water moves yet.
Straight from summer 2005, 13 year old me’s team
I’m a Charizard shitter since I was a kid, but Flygon shares the title for my favorite Pokémon. He’s just such a clever concept. Since I was also really into Panzer Dragoon, I named mine Lagi, cause they’re both insect-like Dragons.
Picked Treecko because I love lizards and had a gecko
Gardevoir.. well I was 13.
aggron is just cool
Chose Azumarill for my water type because I remembered the “ pikablu “ days and wanted to finally use one since it was more available than in GSC.
Hariyama was useful. Would replace him first, though.
Overall,the first team I made that actually had decent planning. My FireRed team was like 4 flying types, my RBY and GS teams just leaned into leveling up my starters.
No kidding, that's so awesome. I see so many people with the foresight of taking snapshots or videos of themselves playing games when they were kids and I just never thought to do it. Wish I had a record of my first "proper" team, think it actually was with Emerald too. I was hard walled by Tate and Liza because I exclusively leveled up my Blaziken so I just reset and planned it all out to get past that one boss.
>I see so many people with the foresight of taking snapshots or videos of themselves playing games when they were kids and I just never thought to do it.
I actually took that photo that same minute; its just a crappy photo. My sad OCD is that I hate erasing old cart saves for RPGs, especially Pokemon. Just too many sentimental memories. Old shitmons and trade/battle records with friends I haven't seen in ages, friends who've died, girls I had a crush on, old girlfriends, cool big brother figures, random passerbys I met at meetups and cons.
I've been itching to replay Emerald on an original cart, too, but I just can't bring myself to erase this file. I know I can back it up on my computer and keep the original save and put it back in any time, but it just wouldn't be the same.I have a Sapphire cart I replay a lot but Emerald was just special.
Oh, well the sentiment is the same because I deleted the original save file to replay the game. I've done it so many times on so many games that whatever original team I had when these games first game out is a distant, distant memory.
Nice also interesting post i read all of it .
Based elder scrolls appreciator
I did not nickname them.
from my most recent playthrough of platinum, my precious team
Finally, a Gen 4 team. I played Pearl recently and I hated the experience so much, the game practically punishes you for wanting to engage with it in any way beyond just gunning it to the end credits. I'd share my team but I can't be asked to take the game out of its case anymore.
azumarill AND swampert is overdoing it on the water types
Names?
POST NAMES you idiots, I judge you by how you name your mons
If you want to show names, post a party, if it's a hall of fame entry, just assume no nicknames
i heard you liek mudkipz
Recently got all gold symbols with these three.
Sweet. What sets?
He posted the movesets.
I meant EV spreads, natures, items.
Gyarados (lead):
>lum berry
>HP flying, BP 68
>adamant
>252 attack
>enough speed to reach 121 at lv 50
>remaining EVs into defense
Swampert:
>chesto berry
>quiet
>252 special attack
>enough speed to reach 82 at lv 50
>remaining EVs into attack
Muk:
>choice band
>careful
>252 special defense
>enough speed to reach 82 at lv 50
>remaining EVs into attack
Muk is a beast in gen 3. Sludge bomb is actually a very good move if you have the appropriate coverage elsewhere, and Muk uses it very well. It has great special bulk and good attack power (esp. with choice band). Above all else I found that the main trick to using it is understanding that almost all its matchups are heavily skewed in one direction. Most basically, if it's fighting a special attacker then it will destroy that opponent, but if it's fighting something with earthquake it's pretty much fricked. In particular it laughs at water types (that don't have earthquake), Muk can even take on some pokemon that pack Psychic since its special defense is just that good. Of course earthquake is pretty ubiquitous but when you're up against an AI that doesn't care for switching that isn't too big of a deal. Gyarados is immune to EQ and packs intimidate to weaken that opponent's other physical attacks on the switch.
Magcargo will get you nowhere sorry to say it's not even a good special attacker let alone a mixed attacker.
Yeah, I checked Muk's stats and saw that they are really good, but never imagined it would fare well in the Battle Frontier particularly because of it's typing.
>Magcargo will get you nowhere sorry to say it's not even a good special attacker let alone a mixed attacker.
It makes me sad how many cool pokémon were introduced in gen 3 but had garbage stats and typing.
What the frick was gamefreak thinking?
Magcargo is a gen 2 Pokémon.
And that doesn't change anything about my point
You mistakenly said he was gen 3, I was just correcting you bro.
I wish he was better too
Well, if I were feeling really pedantic, I could bring up the fact that I didn't actually say Magcargo is gen 3, I said "cool pokémon introduced in gen 3" without mentioning any one in particular. But since I'm not a pendatic homosexual, yeah, you are right, I really thought he was.
Anyways, I still have Magmar which is pretty good I suppose.
magcargo is one of those gen 2 pokemon like skarmory that was so obscure in it's own gen that it's associated with gen 3
>In particular it laughs at water types (that don't have earthquake)
Literally how?
Huge hp and sp def. Waters are generally bulky moreso than outright powerful so I can see a stat spread like muks power through them
They can't touch Muk and hate being poisoned. Only exception is Milotic which has marvel scale
Make sure to EV train properly but IVs aren't important.
You really used Muk on all facilities?
I wanted to try Magcargo but I'm afraid it's just too weak as a mixed attacker and will die in one hit to most things.
I love magcargo but it's hard to use
It's impossible to use. Slow, shitty offenses, and its competent defense is nullified by 4x weakness to EQ. I actually challenge you to find a worse fully evolved mon.
quagsire?
Quagsire has a niche as a water/ground. It's an extremely good defensive typing with one uncommon weakness.
Ledian
That's actually probably the single correct answer.
Feels bad man. I love the lad.
I actually tried to use him in Colosseum since the entire game is Johto shitmons. He was completely unusable even in that context.
Can I make this work in the Battle Frontier?
Water-Ice
Cloyster literally only works because of Skill Link.
I like magcargo more but I usually just camerupt instead
Camerupt is better, purely because he has ground stab, and isn't weak to ground.
Dont worry anon i like it too. I like it too.
Did you breed them autistically?
Of course. Got pretty lucky with Muk and Swampert but Gyarados was over 200 eggs
Nice.
Why are all my favorite pokémon shit?
Shit taste. All of the best mons got scraps from the table at least.
My favorite pokemon is raticate
MAGCARGO has one of the best names of all Pokemans along with like for example ELECTABUZZ
He also has one of the best concepts and designs, it's cool and gets to the point in it's simplicity.
I simply love Magcargo.
Here's mine
why would you use bootleg tauros?
He has sap sipper so I pout in in front of grass attacks like spore
Isn't there a Pokémon specific board? Go frick off over there with this shit
Go be autistic somewhere else, we're not hurting anyone.
people actually discuss gameplay here instead of sperging over generations and screaming about how much they want to frick the women and pokemon.
Is autistically grinding for perfect EVs/IVs necessary to beat the Battle Frontier?
You don't need perfect anything unless you are running really weak pokémon with very low chances to win anything.
If you have a team with decent coverage and BST you can still win with IVs in the 20s. Of course optimal IVs and EVs will increase your chances matematically.
No, but EVs help a lot, and only takes a couple of minutes if you're playing on emulator. Breeding for the right IVs is maximum turbo autismo tho. It's such a tedious enterprise that does it when competing for cash moneys.
*that nobody even does it when competing
I always wondered if they did that or not.
>Breeding for the right IVs is maximum turbo autismo
It can take a very long time, on the other hand, you can find decent mons with good IVs (20+) in two or even three important stats pretty fast by just roaming around the route or cave it spawns in and catching a bunch of them.
Optimization is really not needed, unless you just want to beat the Battle Frontier as fast as possible, which means you're not even going to enjoy playing it anyway.
If 20+ is all you used to get all of the symbols, I don't think breeding them in Emerald wouldn't be all too difficult I don't think. Besides, I kind of like the time sink. I imagine I'll need to get them on every stat except for the attack stat they aren't going to make use of.
Definitely not in 3rd gen, but it's gotten easier to do in later ones