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Recommend me Cyberpunk RPGs.
The Deus Ex games.
Not cyberpunk and definitely not RPGs.
Deus Ex is cyberpunk.
Cyberpunk 2077 lmao you fucking fag
how well does cyberpunk work on linux with lutris? i have the gog version. i know the steam version works great in proton but i see mix shit with lutris gog.
i watched both blade runners for the first time last week. was a great experience
They're good movies. The sequel is kind of a hack braindead approach to making a blade runner sequel. You should watch dark city or some of the other good movies blade runner inspired.
while watching 2049 i wasn't thinking of it as a direct sequel but more of a separate story that kind of involves some people from the first
It didn't even answer the most complicated plot point of the original. It was just an action movie with a blade runner splash put on top of it. Absolute gay coward director and I liked some of his more original films.
It didn't have to. The movies already established that aside from origin and potentially life span, there is fundamentally no difference between humans and replicants. If Roy and Rachel already didn't clue you in, then K's story should have told you that.
the point of a sequel is to elaborate on the original story. when you refuse to even engage with the main narrative of the original film, whether or not deckard is a replicant, it becomes a totally different kind of film. which is what it was. the original blade runner was a simple story of what it means to be human wrapped in a stupid sci-fi noir thing that was secondary to the real meaning of it. thats why all the good clones of it add their own meaning. the sequel did none of that. it was just a dumb action movie.
This is your brain on marvel shit. The story elaborated on the themes of original movie by
1. Reiterating that humans and replicants have the same "potential"
2. Expanding the theme to now include AIs without bodies and ask the question if they are real or not.
Not everything has to be narrative driven you dumb shit. Bladerunner has and always has been theme driven, including the book that it is based on.
what are you talking about. the sequel was just a dumb surface level exploration of what it means to be a machine and then brainless action. also lol at calling me a marvel fan when you like a movie that promotes transhumanism.
Oh but a narrative driven story about whether Deckard was a human or not would be better? You dumb piece of shit.
I'm fine with making a movie about his son but I think they went totally the wrong way about it. I think the only thing they nailed with that movie was the visuals. It really is a stunning film. But whatever. If you think it's good, I'm not here to stop you enjoying it.
>About his son
1. He had a daughter
2. The movie features her
Congrats once again on exposing your as not having watched this movie or the original.
But the son is the main character in the sequel? Are you just being pedantic for no reason? Also making me spoil the whole movie? Ganker jannies are gonna be mad.
Why must his son be the main character? I don't get it. Do you think Bladerunner is Deckard's story? Or that somehow Bladerunner became a cult classic because of Deckard? Cyberpunk as a genre is theme and setting driven than character driven.
The original is an exploration of what it means to be human.
The sequel expanded on this theme.
Changing it to be Deckard's story is just about the most 10 IQ shit you could ever do.
Every movie becomes a classic because of the characters. Not the theme or the world. Those just serve to color the characters. As far as the cyberpunk thing if it inspired people to make other universes whatever. But that doeasn't mean you get to muddy the waters of what the movie is about.
>Every movie becomes a classic because of the characters. Not the theme or the world.
The original wasn't about Deckard. In fact the most memorable scene from the original was from Roy. Classics have memorable characters but they are not character driven. They are theme driven, character driven movies are shit that you consume like Marvel where there is minimal or no exploration of theme and the entire movie serves to drive a character's storyline.
If you can't differentiate between character driven and theme driven stories, you are fucking stupid. Both can have memorable characters.
Roy is memorable because he is a machine. He is a character, but the point is to contrast him with Deckard, whom people believe to he human, and to show that even in death, this machine is capable of mercy and sacrifice. This is obviously a character trait. It really makes you think. The world and the theme are effectively secondary. You just know it's a non-human exhibiting traits that are more human than human.
Yes. Roy and Deckard are supposed to be parallels and the original's theme is about what it means to be human. Deckard's story ended with the end of BR. There is no need to continue his story in 2049. And yet retards like you want it to be about Deckard and if he is replicant or not.
I agree with you. But I don't blame the director for that. The studio probably demanded they bring Harrison Ford back. That was not my criticism of the sequel btw.
>It didn't even answer the most complicated plot point of the original. It was just an action movie with a blade runner splash put on top of it. Absolute gay coward director and I liked some of his more original films.
>It didn't even answer the most complicated plot point of the original.
Is that me asking that they make a sequel all about Deckard or is that me asking that they focus the universe if they're gonna make a sequel to what is effectively an open-ended movie?
That is you being a fucking retard and missing the entire point of the first movie and the 2nd. The 2nd absolutely expanded on the themes of the 1st while being respectful about how the 1st movie's characters were added. But you want them to answer "Deckard human".
Not remotely, retard. My point is they never should have even involved themselves with this storyline. Deckard should have been left what he was. Good grief. have a nice day.
>Literal first statement is gripping about them not answering the "most complicated plot point of the original"
>Pretends he is posting that his intend means he didn't want deckard to be involved
Are you incapable of nuance? I clearly meant that if you're gonna be making a direct sequel to the original, you should answer the most fundamental fucking question that movie posed. If you wanna make a sequel set in that same universe, go ahead, but there's been so many other similar styles of movie since then that the only reason you'd wanna make a sequel to this one is to push the original. And if you're gonna do that, maybe understand what it's about?
>you should answer the most fundamental fucking question that movie posed
The fundamental fucking question is if humans and replicants are the same. That question has been answered multiple times. I feel sad that you think Deckard being human or not is the actual question.
The sequel claims they are the same. The original never does.
>The original never does.
Holy shit. How did you miss the entire point of the original. What do you think Rachel's and Roy's storyline was supposed to be about?
That machines can replicate emotions. But the original never claims replicants are the same as humans. It just humanizes them to a degree. The sequel goes full hog by having a replicant as the main protagonist.
>Movies must spoonfeed me critical knowledge
>Looks like a dog
>Barks like a dog
>Acts like a dog
>But if the movie doesn't tell me it is a dog, I ain't calling it a dog
And you wonder why I call you a marvel fag.
I don't get how you think the point of the original blade runner is "humans and replicants are the same you're all just being prejudiced". The point of the movie is that replicants are a separate species that can feel some level of humanity, yes, they shouldn't be directly exterminated, but they are clearly different. It's not like Alien where the Alien is obviously a hostrile creature at all times. But just cuz they look like you doesn't mean they are you. The Battlestar Galactica reboot actually built on this whole concept.
The original BR has the same theme as the book it is based on Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? And the point of the book and the movie is to make you question what makes a human human. Dumb fuck.
Which is what makes it a great book and great movie. Doesn't mean they promoted the idea that an artificial human is the same as a normal human.
Let me remind you that your main gripe with the movie is they need to answer if Deckard is human or not. And that is a very fucking stupid point.
If the sequel claims they are the same, then your question has been answer so why you bitching?
Why the fuck are you discussing the movie without having watched it? Fuck you. They led us to believe Gosling was his son just to reveal he really is just a regular replicant. Deckard's daughter is the woman who is enclosed in a clean room that can reproduce memories.
>just a dumb surface level exploration of what it means to be a machine and then brainless action
Wasn't the first movie pretty much this as well?
I think the first movie was more than that. And I do believe the multiple edits they made after the fact contributed to that, even if it was just dumb hollywood struggles. I liked the idea that Blade Runner is an open-ended thing and that anyone can be a replicant.
It dealt with more than that.
A key part of the movie is about K finding his place in the world. He gets so involved with the case because he believes himself to be Deckard and Rachel's son.
His world comes crashing down when it turns out that this isn't the case, as if his search for meaning just came to an end. Despite that, he realizes that what you are doesn't have to determine your potential, so he does the right thing and saves Deckard, probably dying in the process.
Him being a machine is obviously relevant to the plot and serves as a vehicle for it but the themes presented are more universal than just "what it means to be a machine". At least that's what I think.
It's not especially profound but it was nice and refreshing to see a story that didn't hold the hand of the viewers all the way through. We don't get movies like this that often anymore.
I should watch it again. I did originally but I guess you're making me give it another chance. Let's let the thread die anyway. It's a very niche topic.
Don't forget the entire subplot with JOI which is an extension of the Human vs Replicant question.
Why the fuck would deckard be a replicant, you fucking retard? By the time the movie happens replicants aren't that advanced. Hell the supposedly most advanced model at the time was rachel and she still got caught by the test. Not all movies need to be a subversion shitfest.
the director himself said he was a replicant and also he made multiple editions of the movie indicating he was one. also the sequel does hint at him being one too. not that I agree with that. I think it was a perfectly fine story with him being human
Does it matter if he was human? Or if he was not? Humans might be special in their world but to us the audience, humans and replicants are basically the same. The fact that retards argue like Deckard being one or another would change anything is the most stupid shit ever.
>the point of a sequel is to elaborate on the original story
>hack braindead approach
Its one of the few reboot sequels this millennia that didn't just take all aspects that can be used for nostalgiapandering. It actually built on the ideas and world of the original and did something new.
The only disappointing thing was caving in and adding Harrison Fords character. But luckily it didn't have such a big role
I just hated every aspect of the movie once the action kicked in. I'm sorry for all the fans, it was a good sequel until they went to that red planet, but once that happened it just became a regular hollywood sequel. Reminded me of the Rob Zombie hollywood films.
I thought the movie had a good mix of action and cyberpunk noir. It was already so slow moving during Act 1 and Act 2. Act 3 is fine.
>until they went to that red planet
There is no red planet in blade runner, but you already knew that since you know enough of it to critique it, right?
it's easily one of the best examples of how to do a sequel correctly out there you fucking caveman
i liked it but it looked and sounded nothing like the original
It's almost a shame the first bladerunner won't be surpassed in terms of the genre or aesthetic but then again not everything can be better than what came before it.
It's a stupid genre that should have been a one off thing in the first place. Replicating gay french 1940s black and white films with a sci fi aesthetic? The people in the future won't have to solve minute crimes or hunt down people using articles of clothing.
Is this the thread?
Yeah this is the thread.
That's a cute Josuke
Don't listen to any retards saying Cyberpunk. Shadowrun games are really good.
She makes me want to race mix
cyber punk and citizen sleeper
i want to shoot hot ropey loads of cum in panam
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some of these I havent seen before thanks for the dump, bless this game for producing so many kino blenders
bless you anon
i want her to use my mouth as her gloried toilet. just let the poop flow out into my mouth like niagara falls. i don't care if its garden gnome brainwashing. i want to be her toilet.
get monkeypox fag
Seek help if you unironically mean what you wrote.
is this ''''enhanced''' edition as dogshit as people in the review section make it sound?
gog had both versions up but only enhanced was available to buy and you got the original for free when you bought it, but since no one one wanted the enhanced they had to make separate listings
now if you buy one you get the other for free
>no mention of the Ganker cult classic
eh, it's more like schizopunk
That edition of Shadowrun on the 360
Gunnm Martian Memory
not a game made by a company that hires 25%of its devs to fill quotas
and it is proud of it
Play the sctual bladerunner game.
Reminder: anyone parroting "Deckard was human or not?" is a dumb fucking idiot. Deckard never was a replicant, not in the movie, not in the book. Just because years later Ridley Scott woke up feeling frisky and decided to add a stupid unicorn dream that lasts a few seconds it doesn't change that.
The fantasy races in this game grew on me as I played it. I'd still rather have only humans instead but at the end of the day it was alright.
>those dick sucking lips
the second one has more waifus
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