>Redditor managed to write a better Hydaelyn trial fight than the Fujo

>Redditor managed to write a better Hydaelyn trial fight than the Fujo

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/wcvg47/spoiler_lvl_89_trial_catharsis/

VENAT SIMPS DOWNVOTING OF COURSE

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/hlExIEviriJCu_KZDojpeA/

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    m-mommy

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shut the fuck up. You FFXIVfags are annoying.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go back

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "ZODIARK STANCE" is my favorite new meme from this game's retarded community.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus christ

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        oh my fucking god lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The dude is seething hard in the reddit thread lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the cringiest shit I have ever seen in my entire life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >guy just wants to draw edge
      >NOOOO FUCKING CRINGE
      Do Hydaelynfags really...?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Guy just wants to draw cringe

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >guy just wants to draw edge
        no, they were a huge fucking gay about it and were arguing they wrote a better story than the game depicted and were acting morally superior and shitting on anyone who didnt like it. fuck off with your revisionist history you living wojak.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Now that people are making fun of him for it, he got all of his ESL FC friends to defend it and cry "Copyright Infringement" and how they're "Gonna sue Ganker"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I looked in to it, seems to me the guy was saying "I'm a shit writer and didn't make any good arguments, I just wanted to draw Zodiark trance lol."

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            UH Ganker BROS, HE'S ON TO US NOW WATCH OUT

            Yep, he's mad.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The more I read this, the more hilariously bad and inaccurate it gets.
      >In what way would telling Minfilia the truth about the sundering be even remotely relevant to the task she was chosen for? And why would she need to know?
      >The fuck does he mean "someone's not bothered to prevent it"? The entire point of Hydaelyn using Minfilia was to help mitigate and hold against it in the first place.
      The Ascians as they were, were not our friends and brothers. They're past selves were friends to the unsundered Azem. The fuckers they became was entirely on them and they had to be stopped. Especially Lahabrea
      Hell, Lahabrea shouldn't eben be considered a friend in the slightest. This entire thing is stupid, woefully inaccurate and missing out on several points, and is just plain edgy. I'd want my WoL to knock some sense into this fag.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Minfilia did think Hydaelyn was a real god, that's why she followed the instruction to throw herself into the Flow and be a meat-puppet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we're also not Azem in the first place any more than Amon was actually Hermes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean Amon literally refers to himself as Hermes in the cutscene after his boss battle in the Altiascope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He repeatedly refers to Hermes in the third person in his death speech. He acknowledges that he was Hermes in a past life, and retains his memories, but also makes it clear that he is not Hermes.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We can also thank the revived Empror Xande for that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fixed version.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Itty Bitty Baby
        Itty Bitty Boat

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't believe it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            HABEEB IT

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              TWINKIE HOUSE

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                TWINKIE HOUSE!
                *Zodiark Trance*

                There's some life left in this shithole of a board after all.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              TWINKIE HOUSE!
              *Zodiark Trance*

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/zNvjc4l.jpg

      >Redditor managed to write a better Hydaelyn trial fight than the Fujo

      https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/wcvg47/spoiler_lvl_89_trial_catharsis/

      VENAT SIMPS DOWNVOTING OF COURSE

      i saw the model thing but I thought it was a random errant shitpost
      this is an entirely new level of autism
      the absolute state of schizos and lavosfags

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This dude's getting memed on by the r/shitpostXIV crew pretty bad

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXIV/comments/wenmqz/i_stole_this_from_Ganker_lvl_89_manga_edit/

    The dude and his Discord friends are seething and accusing the OP here of "copyright infringement" for posting an edited version of his comic (which is literal fanart of an IP he doesn't even own LMAO).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST EDIT AND REPOST OTHER PEOPLE'S ART THAT'S HECKIN SLANDER

      SLANDER I SAY

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So thees guys are pretty much openly admitting to brigading the r/shitpostXIV thread mocking the comic in defense of the comic and they have the gall to accuse other people of "brigading" the original thread on the official subreddit?

        https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/453754-What-s-the-point-with-that-quite-lackluster-story-in-Endwalker/page653

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ShitpostXIV turned to shit once the normies invaded. Now it circled back to the overused memes from the mainsub.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST EDIT AND REPOST OTHER PEOPLE'S ART THAT'S HECKIN SLANDER

      SLANDER I SAY

      Um, fact-checkers?1?!?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How exactly is it copyright infringement when the guy who made the original comic doesn't even own the characters?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      UH Ganker BROS, HE'S ON TO US NOW WATCH OUT

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ZODIARK TWANCE TIEM!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      UH Ganker BROS, HE'S ON TO US NOW WATCH OUT

      >"Hi I like Ascians"

      And there it is.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      walk

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MAN MUST WALK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why walk when you can ride?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what is this walk thing? Some sort of new ff14 meme i never knew about?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stop skipping cutscenes.

        where have all the npc lewdposers gone
        they keep disappearing

        You can find them on twitter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Krilesmasher is a once in a blue moon deal and sometimes puts out boner repellant
          Aros is dead, Pearl is shit, Kayuri has only just come back
          Even the couple fags on pixiv and our resident poser are dead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Venat's line after Elpis about how HENCEFORTH, HE MUST WALK became a minor meme when the Venat=evil fags began to shitpost

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's one of the best lines in the game

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you must suffer in life, because hmm you must
          Asian nonsense

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Its not an asian concept that if you never suffer in any capacity and know naught but bliss it becomes bland. you cannot savor the sweetness of victory without the bitterness of defeat anon. This is basic ass philosophy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >you must be reduced to a quadriplegic retarded imitation of yourself incapable of doing anything or you are incapable of appreciating life and its difficulties
              Just the process of procuring sustenance and turning it into consumable nutrients is already enough of a pain in the ass even at the best of times to qualify as a struggle, let alone once you begin to pursue its optimization or variety of choices it represents.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >im going to risk every indication of a successful future by intentionally breaking a time loop because...just BECAUSE OKAY SWEATY?!?!?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A successful future
                Which one?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The one that we came from retard what is the point of posting that image?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            godless retard

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I had an unironic basedface at this line. Elpis was fucking kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WALK

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >r*ddit link
    >duplicate thread
    have a nice day

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So is posting autistic fanfiction just how we start threads now?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >now

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Redditor with infinite personal time not under deadlines or personal responsibility wrote a thing better than X

    the age old cry of the basement dwelling nerd

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not to mention it's shit, I originally wanted us to have to fight zodiark and hydaelyn, (not in a mock prove your worth way), how they did it was good. This is just edgy I hate God cause bad exists writing.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    she's a tragic heroine that did literally everything right, why does this upset people? the ancients got munched on by their own creations like fucking retards so its not like anything valuable was lost when their society exploded from Meteions sad beams

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >she's a tragic heroine that did literally everything right, why does this upset people?

      Unironically because she's a woman.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    sure this is copyright violation. Doesn't matter if you found it on Ganker, it's a modified version of the original artwork without the artist's knowledge or consent that you're reposting.

    LMFAO FFXIVfags are some of the most sensitive people... They're gonna sue Ganker guys!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How will the anonymous hacker ever recover?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        God I hope Ganker doesn't lost the trial! That'd be awful!

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >venat... le evil!!! le bad!!! le hitler!!!
    What sort of mental illness is this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their entire problem with Venat centres around the fact that they're massive Ancient fanboys who headcannon'd Hydaelyn as evil due to Shadowbringers, and when not only their headcannon was proven to be wrong in Endwalker, but Venat was revealed to be Hydaelyn and singlehandedly yeeted the Ancients out of the story, they got super mad and are still to this day coping and seething over her.

      They make bogus arguments that "Venat committed genocide" (which is not only not ture as shown by the Nier crossover recently which confirmed the Ancients didn't die from the sundering, but the story never even remotely suggests it was genocide). Meanwhile they completely ignore or excuse Emet and the rest of the ancients actions (they unironically think the Ancients mass-sacrificing themselves to feed Zodiark was justifiable as well as Emet's genocides of entire worlds because it was "for a good reason"). Somehow in their minds the writers were justifying genocide with Venat.

      Not to mention FFXIV has a long history of making us sympathize and outright be forgive people who've committed heinous atrocities (Gauis, Yotsuyu, Emet, Fordola, Nero, just off the top of my head). But Venat does similar and they lose their fucking minds.

      They're just giga-ancient simps who are mad Venat singlehandedly ensured the Ancients are gone from the story and are eternally seething at her over this, despite the fact that she's now super-dead, meanwhile Emet gets to be reborn depite everything he's done.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I want porn of her

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They make bogus arguments that "Venat committed genocide" (which is not only not ture as shown by the Nier crossover recently which confirmed the Ancients didn't die from the sundering, but the story never even remotely suggests it was genocide).
        >In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

        >Killing members of the group;
        >Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
        >Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
        >Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
        >Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing you listed that applies is the 2nd one, and only if one considers sundering to be mental/physical harm.

          That being said since this event happened to all of reality it was not specifically targeted at any specific group, I am not sure it counts as genocide.

          Since the suffering that would result from the sundering was intended to be a long term positive the goal was not to destroy or damage or wipe anyone out. Its more along the line of amputation because of gangrene or something.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Its more along the line of amputation because of gangrene or something.
            amputating a limb doesn't reduce someones lifespan by 99% and make them retarded.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >attempts to use the Geneva convention to prove that a woman who magically split her people into multiple, distinct, and still-living parts of them into multiple universes

          Are you one of those gays from that r/shitpostXIV thread? Seriously have a nice day

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Lobotomizing and DRASTICALLY reducing the lifespan of a race isn't genocide
            Sure.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >degenerating them to a finite lifespan so they don't go insane of boredom is le bad

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        'ate Venat.
        'ate Emet.
        'ate Ancients.

        Love Yotsuyu.
        Love Yugiri.
        Love Doman girls.

        Simple as.
        (I'm a white male)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >(I'm a white male)
          Your opinion doesn't matter then you're not the majority playerbase

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >which is not only not ture as shown by the Nier crossover recently which confirmed the Ancients didn't die from the sundering, but the story never even remotely suggests it was genocide
        huh? where can I read about this, the fuck?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can watch it on youtube but you don't even need to. In Qitana Ravel, Emet-Selch himself tells you that immediately after the Sundering everyone was still there but that their memories were totally fucked. I don't get how anyone ever thought the Sundering killed all the Ancients when that's not what the Sundering was ever implied to have done. It just fractured everything into 14 equal pieces.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's in the shitty Nier gacha game

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why FFXI makes even the hydaelyn story much much better?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              in English, doc

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >light and darkness fight
                >light won and shattered the world
                I never thought about it but it sounds like shit. It sounds lame af contrary to how Promathia died.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Promathia didn't die, that's the point. He was fractured along with Vana'diel and sealed away just like Zodiark.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                neither did zodiark

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >light won and shattered the world
                This is exactly what happens in FFXI except that they weren't fighting, they were in love and Altana refused to let him and Vana'diel die.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was told much better

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I agree

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                real gods in final fantasy is cringe

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kefka big cringe
                promathia and altana big cringe
                FF12 occuria big cringe
                FF13 fal'cie and il'cie big cringe
                FF15 esper gods big cringe

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                FF2 Satan and God Emperor, based
                FF3 Noah, Doga, Unei, and Xande, based
                FF6 Warring Triad and Kefka, based
                FF8 Hein, based
                FF11 Altana, Promathia, and all the celestial gods, based
                FF12 Occuria, based
                FF13 Fal'cie, Etro, Pulse, and Bhunivelze, based
                FF14 Ancients, based

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >god emperor
                GBA remake BIGGEST cringe

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If XIV's Ancients don't count as gods then what the hell does?
                >Immortal
                >Wise
                >Can naturally read the hearts and minds not only of people, but of the lingering aether in the land or anything else
                >Can create literally anything that they can imagine, and are responsible for populating the planet with every single living and non-living thing we know of

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gods are not pussies who off themselves when they face problem
                Gods cant be hurt let alone eradicated by their own creation
                Gods know everything, Ascians had no idea what was happening and thought it was divine punishment for their sins meaning they had a god, zodiark in this case

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have you ever read any pagan mythology in your life?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gods are not pussies who off themselves when they face problem
                jesus christ LAMO

                Then it is not a god but a being with special powers as godhood is earned and no pussy deserves it
                Sorry kiddo, not my fault you are so dumb you relate divinity with being a weak fag

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah yeah there's only one true christ god blah blah blah the pope claims lineage to peter who was a repeat nonbeliever of jesus

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >godhood is earned

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Would you worship a being just because it has otherwordly powers?
                Why do you think a weak gay with some fancy magic is worthy of worship?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                well he has magic and i don't
                stupid hypothetical

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I worship rich people because they have billions and I dont

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rich people have magic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No but they have powers you dont and may never ever reach even 1% of it in your entire life
                Money is power anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gods don't just have otherworldly powers, they're a part of the natural order itself.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >godhood is earned
                in what mythology????????

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i mean ignore that gay but buddhism, hinduism, shintoism, animism, catholicism if you want to piss catholics off

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are gods in those religions that earn there are divinity but the vast majority are simply "born" (for lack of a better term) that way. Especially in Hinduism and Shintoism.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure. But that guy asked where it happened at all.

                >catholicism if you want to piss catholics off
                Judaism too, in the case of Enoch ascending as Metatron and taking a throne beside YHWH.

                Excellent point! Piss off garden gnomes too.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But that guy asked where it happened at all.
                No, that's not what I was asking. I was pointing out the ridiculousness of the original guy implying that godhood was something that is always earned.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah that's dumb, but it's more true in FF than most settings.
                At some point you have to shrug and let retards be retards.

                I'd say it's pretty fucking obvious in the english version that he sees you as a version of himself that is actually able to understand others and enjoy the small details of life, unlike him.

                Pretty obvious, but also uncaring. He wants his goddamn fight and it's only by the very end that he SAYS he'd let you go if you truly wanted.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He wants his goddamn fight and it's only by the very end that he SAYS he'd let you go if you truly wanted.
                Did you forget about the part right after Zodiark when he lets you go because he only wants to fight you if your heart is completely in it? It's the exact same thing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Look man, I'm tired. I'm tired of fighting and I'm tired of Zenos and I'm kinda glad they're both over. We gave him the fight, and as much as I enjoyed it too I just wanted it to be over with him.
                I'm tired.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See you soon!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thanks

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean same. Not sure what this post has to do with the previous conversation but as someone whose favorite character is Zenos I also hope he never comes back in any form.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >catholicism if you want to piss catholics off
                Judaism too, in the case of Enoch ascending as Metatron and taking a throne beside YHWH.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are plenty of cases of heroes earning godhood through their actions across all mythologies. But that can only be granted by actual natural gods who received their godhood just by virtue of their existence.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It depends what you let fall under the purview of the word "earned", but lesser beings attaining divinity is an element present, by numbers, in more separate mythologies than there are the "supremely omnipresent root deity" kind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                see

                There are plenty of cases of heroes earning godhood through their actions across all mythologies. But that can only be granted by actual natural gods who received their godhood just by virtue of their existence.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are plenty of cases of heroes earning godhood through their actions across all mythologies. But that can only be granted by actual natural gods who received their godhood just by virtue of their existence.

                >But that can only be granted by actual natural gods who received their godhood just by virtue of their existence.
                Axiomatically untrue of any mythology where The Absolute is an impersonal force rather than a supreme individual, as bestowment requires it to be an act of Will.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Gods are not pussies who off themselves when they face problem
                jesus christ LAMO

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Last night I was reading about the god Attis who broke his vow of chastity to Cybele and got mindfucked into castrating himself and then either tried to or succeeded in committing suicide depending on the telling.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The 24 man raid story is going to be about exploring the differences between godlike beings like the Ancients and actual Gods

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Twelve aren't actual gods
                >he didn't pick up on how Nald'thal is Hades+Hythlodaeus and how Azeyma is Venat

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and actual Gods
                no, seriously, what the fuck are they
                they clearly came after the ancients since they're derived from them (varyingly, given that like a third of the pantheon is venat and/or azem), but they're not primals so shouldn't be born from mortal worship? what, are eorzeans just fucking special and they get to have real gods? they probably can't just be auHispanices of those ancients' original sundered fragments because ES and Venat weren't part of the sundering.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sapient versions of the Twelve Wonders from Elpis. They're aetherial barometers which detect and then regulate extreme imbalances.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Can create literally anything that they can imagine
                so can the sundered humans, you imagine something, use your aether to give it shape, and voila, you created something. that's literally how arcanists create their carbuncles, and how summoners can change the appearance of their egis while keeping their original property

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >yeah i didn't kill them i just shattered their souls into 14 pieces
        >also they're not themselves but i didn't genocide my race
        lol
        lmao

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          correct

          Shattering people into weakened fragments of themselves so that they and any other life in existence can be assured of continued existence does not constitute genocide, Since the entire point of genocide is that it prevents that group from ever existing in any form, or aims to attempt to achieve that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >yeah you're not yourself but i didn't kill you trust me
            Damn brainlets are so fucking stupid. Having no concept of the self lmao. Keep thinking that. Tbqh tell it to your friends also.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You are the person who is trying to argue the metaphysics of a fictional universe with literal magic. If Sundering does not equal death or the loss of the self is canon, then thats how it works, because we are not talking about actual reality.

              But on that point, What do you even mean by concept of self in this particular instance. Sundering would create 14 diminished parts of a person. They would all equally be and not be that person. The mechanics of this are not explained. So yes as long as the original Person is not removed and just diminished that is no more death, than getting old is death, or getting a debilitating disease is death, you are still you, just with less capability.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >which is not only not ture as shown by the Nier crossover recently which confirmed the Ancients didn't die from the sundering, but the story never even remotely suggests it was genocide
        Holy cope you're braindead.
        If killing the ancients, sorry "sundering" them wasn't genocide then it equally isn't genocide when the ascians rejoined worlds, as in both instances the souls still exist, but the memories and personality are all but gone.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guarantee its the EXACT same people who think Rhea from Fire Emblem is le bad and that Edelgard is le good. This sort of mentality only has overlap in the most retarded, tumblr-infected minds.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Soulframe better

    https://www.reddit.com/r/SoulFrame

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The "Venat is Evil" crowd (who are all massive Ascian simps which this comic is evidence of) remind me so much of the same people from WoW who super fanboy'd over the Night Elves and Lordaeron. The guys who would endlessly seethe over how "Blizzard butchered the Night Elves" or how "Lordaeron should be an Alliance city".

    Like the same type of arguments and the personalities of these people is almost virtually identical.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Blizzard butchered the Night Elves
      They did though. Literally turned into fertilizer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn bird, needs correction.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        where have all the npc lewdposers gone
        they keep disappearing

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont care but I like her figure and titties.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Emet was a mistake

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really enjoy how the people who say "Venat could've told the convocation" completely forget that, not only would it be dangerous and jeopradize the timeline, but it would potentially make things worse. Because for starters, she doesn't have any proof to make them believe her claims. We, the WoL, had to go back to the present, and the memories of: Hermes, Hythlodeus, and Emet-Selch were altered and cannot be restored until they return to the lifestream. But mkst inportantly, even if the convocation did believe her, they would've doubled down even harder. Emet-Selch explicitely says that he would not regret nor hesitate to do the actions of his future self. He would not forsake all the sundered ancients and would do anything for them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I really enjoy how the people who say "Venat could've told the convocation" completely forget that, not only would it be dangerous and jeopradize the timeline, but it would potentially make things worse

        These retards are unironically arguing that this would be fine because it "would create another AU timeline like in ShB where the ancients survived".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's even worse because it doesn't fix anything that happened in the present, and completely assumes that somehow the Final Days wouldn't occur, without even considering the massive consequences of such a decision. The only why it worked in ShB was because it was a last ditch effort where everything was absolutely fucked, and they had to abuse every single loophole possible for even the chance to go back in time and fix things without causing a paradox. Even then, it wasn't guaranteed that the future would be saved, they just had to hold on to blind desperation and hope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Was it ever actually explain why ShB wasn't a timeloop but Alexander was?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Something something alexander + omega powers or some shit like that

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Was it ever actually explained why only the WOL can travel to and from the first or HOW he can when nobody else can with their body and soul intact?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because the Exarch actually summoned the WoL correctly. He fucked up with everyone else.

                Also Hildibrand did it too and he's fine. And Hildibrand is canon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hildibrand was out of his body just like the scions that was the entire plot point retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then the fucking mask kid from Warring Triad. Why are you acting like such a gay over basic bitch plot points?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >speedreader
                Unukalhai was transported by an Ascian, who are experts at hopping between the worlds.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Expert who say they can only transport the mind and soul, not the body. Same with the Warriors of Dankness in HW.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because if you're forgetting the most basic plot points how can anyone take you seriously. Unuk was saved from the 13th by elidibus, and it took the combined effort of you, beq lugg, and urianger to get him to the First.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure that's because he was the actual target of the Exarch's magick rather than the other scions. Also, pretty sure it is explained as well

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can't remember, but even Emet-Selch was surprised because not even he could do that. The Crystal Tower isn't even suppossed to be capable of doing what it did. Alexander was a time loop because the core events that caused it were directly caused by what fixed it. Thereby fixing itself entirely while not moving out of place. The Crystal Tower crossed out of the cycle completely.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Crystal Tower was Alexander+Omega. Omega was likely the X factor that confused Emet, otherwise time-traveling summons would be ez-pz.

                Not to mention that Gaia already can manipulate time, albeit on a much smaller scale and likely only in short bursts.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Omega was part of the system used in the Twinning, which let it cross dimensions as well as time. No other instance of time travel also crossed dimensions.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              who says it isnt
              crackpot theory time
              we've got a perfectly good garlond ironworks and crystal tower
              memory magic is a mjaor plot device at this point
              i give it even odds a later patch has g'raha brainwashing himself to believe black rose really happened and sending himself back to the first to prevent a paradox

              the first venat never met us but came up with hydaelyn independently
              the first time, black rose really did happen
              ff14 is a massive time loop, a la ff1
              maybe a later patch will have us finally break the cycle

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >saves the story and the game's final act
    KNEEL!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >never gave a shit about anything that was going on in the world
      >all he wanted was to fight
      literally /our guy/. I'll miss him.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >playing on the shitty localized version

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pulling shit out of your ass

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The real reason Zenos is so obessesed with you is because He's jealous but if you play the localized version you won't know it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd say it's pretty fucking obvious in the english version that he sees you as a version of himself that is actually able to understand others and enjoy the small details of life, unlike him.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I feel like alot of people in this thread are handwaving the absolute horrors wrought by Venat in stating "The WoL would never ever act this way in a million years to her" especially after he traveled to Elpis. What Venat did is essentially what Leto the 2nd did in Dune to follow his "Golden Path" she killed millions upon millions of men women and children ancients for the sake of her mission that none agreed with. Before its said sundering was raping and killing them as it was an explicit violation of bodily autonomy and the death and dissappearance of functioning aware conscious experiences to never be a fully formed person again. Venat committed Genocide on her kind and nothing you say will make it not so. While I respect Venat for her decision and the necessity of her quest to beat Meteion as I cant see another way to beat her it was still a fucked thing to do. Sorry OP you have to deal with Venat simps in this thread.... your comic presents a very real and important perspective the WoL could have especially after experiencing ancient society.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone had their reasons to do what they did.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does the Fujo kill off every attractive female character?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Venat turned us into animals and lalafells, she is the most evil character of the entire series.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Come and feel up some of this evil.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Modded abomination

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And there are more and more of us everyday...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And you are all disgusting, still less than the femroes though

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              /wave

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                big lady hot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >casual clothes
                it's garbage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what pants are those m8?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Come and feel up some of this evil.

            i refuse to fap to a lalas fat ass
            i swear it, i will never fap while imagining shoving my face in a lalas plump juicy ass

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              just give in its pointless to resist anon

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                never, i will resist no matter how many fat lala asses are posted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But why, what's so wrong with giving in to something so short and stacked?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                JUST POST FAT ALLA ASSES ALREADY FUCK HOW SUBTLE DO I NEED TO BE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The furries, elves and midgets were gradual changes over the generations, not venat's powers. She is, however, a massive fucking furry and probably dripped when seeing bnnuy or cat wol.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can i get a QRD on the Venat committed genocided argument?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sundering = kill
      >everyone got sundered = everyone got killed
      >genocide
      There

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >multiply worlds and population by 14
        >genocide

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        we know for a fact it didn't "kill" anyone though. it just split them. it's a false comparison to say one being split into 14 means they're dead. the soul still exists spread across the 14.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Graha Tia ate a hamburger
    >This ruins Endwalker

    Well, is he right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shitty modern clothing glam
      >shitty KOREAN modern clothing glam
      >complaining about burgers
      The absolute state.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think I found his Twitter account

      https://twitter.com/Just_A_Gamerx/status/1530609064425598976

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Of course they play one of the many furry races.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Viera
          >Furry

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God, what I would give to fuck Daisy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        actual transformation and the fight are unnecessary. We didn't see Zodiark summoned either. We don't NEED to see all this shit. I wouldn't mind as it might be epic but come on, we know it happened.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think I found his Twitter account

      https://twitter.com/Just_A_Gamerx/status/1530609064425598976

      >Graha eating a burger is somehow justifying Genocide

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop posting this stupid fucking thread you fucking gay.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better to die fulfilled than become a beast

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the plenty are able to die to ra-la
      >I can't
      its not fucking fair

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Redditors have no critical thinking skills and do not take in account of the following:

    >Zodiark's creation was flawed from the start, as he was afflicted with Tempering (likely caused by Lahabrea in Pandaemonium)
    >Zodiark was a bandaid, not a solution. His entire existence was to cover up the planet so Meteion's song wouldn't hit it directly
    >Zodiark could never be restored 100% anyway due to the 13th void fuckup
    >There is zero evidence that Zodiark would/could revive the dead

    >Thus Zodiark was a pyramid scheme with a time limit, it was inevitably going to fail and the planet was going to be megafucked unless something drastic was done.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair, Emet says they don't need all of Zodiark to resummon him with enough power for their wants.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >for their wants.
        Which would be to just "revive" the dead. Then what? You're back at square one and Zodiark still needs to feed because you're tempered. Time to sacrifice again!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't forget that "reviving" the dead through a Primal has been shown time and again to be a bad idea. It doesn't revive them from the lifestream, it only reanimates their corpse to be a lifeless puppet. It's not actually the person, it's just a corpse stuffed with aether.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It doesn't revive them from the lifestream, it only reanimates their corpse to be a lifeless puppet.
            >azem stone performs flawless resurrection after being empowered by hydaelyn
            ???

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >flawless resurrection
              Pretty sure they were on a very short time limit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >all of the scions die
                >wol brings back them, emet and emet's boyfriend
                >emet and hythlo specifically say they're going to go back to the lifestream because they're done with living
                >scions are still alive
                ???

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That was because of Azem's crystal. Remember, it also happensd when figthing with Elidibus. Also Hydaelyn herself blessdd that crystal with the last of her power

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hydaelyn herself blessdd that crystal
                all she did was put the rest of her aether into it because WoL wouldn't have enough alone to bring back two ancients

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the scions weren't dead you retard. they transformed their aetherical forms in the space around you to lay you a path. its explicitly stated that they're actively fighting to keep the way forward for you the whole time. all the crystal does is rematerialize them after you find a way to stabilize the area because if you cant do that they eventually run out of will to continue the struggle and THEN die. They "sacrifice" themselves putting faith in you to find a way to stabilize the area knowing they can be called back if you do so. yshtola explicitly tells you this.
                You people are retarded.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They weren't, Hythlodaeus had no reason to stay and Emet refused to live on because of Venat.
                [...]
                The Scions' souls remained in Ultima Thule, they only lost their bodies, so it's not the same even if he were right.

                UT just scattered their essence, it didn't actually kill them. Plus if they were actually dead how were they pulled from the Lifestream when it's literally across the universe?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why the fuck are you asking me? I literally just said they're not in the fucking lifestream you reject.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not my fault you skipped cutscenes, dumbfuck.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More like you skipped my entire post you dense baboon-adjacent fucking trog.
                I said A, you come out screaming I'm saying B. Fuck yourself, illiterate cuntrag

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're so upset. Go outside.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                why does it matter if they were in the lifestream specifically? if your corporeal form is gone and your aether is scattered you're dead.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They weren't, Hythlodaeus had no reason to stay and Emet refused to live on because of Venat.

                >all of the scions die
                >wol brings back them, emet and emet's boyfriend
                >emet and hythlo specifically say they're going to go back to the lifestream because they're done with living
                >scions are still alive
                ???

                The Scions' souls remained in Ultima Thule, they only lost their bodies, so it's not the same even if he were right.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that could reasonably be justified by Emet and Hythlodaeus only recently returning to the Lifestream

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the souls of the scions were still hanging around in the massive sea of dynamis you were in, that's why they could be put back into their bodies
              it's still a copout I agree but it has a lore reason

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It would probably work in this case. Since we see all the souls of the people who where sacrificed still being bound and hanging around Zodiark on the moon. None of them have been allowed to actually join the lifestream.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >tempered says they're fine with resummoning their primal no matter what
        wow

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not like they were summoning him im the current state.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >As he was afflicted with tempering
      Emet lies to you when he says he's tempered to rationalize all the awful shit hes done. He is not tempered. Zodiark does not temper. The lopporits even confirm this when they mention at most you'de feel is a small tug from something on the level of zodiark.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Zodiark does not temper
        Pandaemonium is going to reveal the origins of Tempering and show that Zodiark was cursed with it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Im sure it absolutely will show the origins of tempering but it wont be a part of zodiark.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The lopporits even confirm this when they mention at most you'de feel is a small tug from something on the level of zodiark.
        Sundered beinfs would feel a slight tug.
        Aether-rich beings like the Ancients would be pulled towards Dark aether simply by proximity.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have a single bit of proof to back up that statement?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Emet isn't tempered. He acts more than once in ways that are contrary to Zodiark and his goals. Lahabrea does too. Emet goes the extra step and even helps you kill the heart of Zodiark which shouldn't be possible if he was tempered. Plus the brainwashing aspect of tempering didn't exist at the time even if it would have pulled on them harder than sundered.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Anon, just play the game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Fanon

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >calling out headcanon when you can't back up any evidence that tempering existed when zodiark was around

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Livingway said that on a being the scale of Zodiark you'd feel a slight tug

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And also said that the brainwashing aspect of tempering is something only included in later primals, which also requires the desire to pull other people into the summoner's way of thinking in order for the effect to activate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, and? Provide evidence an unsundered would be tempered by zodiark merely existing. Tempering is not innate to summoning gay, it was an additional thing the Ascians DELIBERATELY added to the summoning techniques they taught the beast tribes to further their plans.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And also said that the brainwashing aspect of tempering is something only included in later primals, which also requires the desire to pull other people into the summoner's way of thinking in order for the effect to activate.

                Livingway said that the fervent desire to convert people to one's beliefs was the nasty bit added to creation magic, not whatever crap you are pretending she said.

                here's the cutscene with a timestamp:

                ?t=494

                please google 'head canon'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Livingway said that the fervent desire to convert people to one's beliefs was the nasty bit added to creation magic
                >"Beings thus created are instilled with the selfsame desire, and use their powers to enthrall people-starting with the summoner"
                Are you fucking retarded? The fervent desire to convert IS TEMPERING. Adding that bit TO THE PRIMAL is what MAKES THEM TEMPER THINGS, you utter fucking troglodyte holy shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i'm going to change the established definition of tempering in order to win an internet argument

                Tempering is when your aetheric balance is shifted to the primal's element, your personal aether becomes stagnant AND you become susceptible to the primal's will, as per 5.4's "reviving the legacy'

                The fervent desire to temper others was added later, as per Livingway

                As such, tempering already existed before the 'fervent desire to temper others' was added to the mix.

                i hope your parents die a slow painful death

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let's say you're right (you're not). Zodiark is a dark-aspected primal, so his aether is purely astral. If you were tilted toward his aspect then your aether could not stagnate.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so then Emet-Selch absolutely did and inarguably lied about being tempered since zodiark's element negates criteria for the condition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ?t=560

                shut the fuck up. seriously. shut the fuck up, you know NOTHING

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, that's how the tempering introduced by the Ascians to the sundered primal formula works.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just conveniently forgetting that the 'fervent desire to assimilate others into your belief' is a command planted into the new thrall and has nothing to do with the affect it has on your aether

                Stop being a smug cunt you little gay retard. I moved no goalposts. Zodiark did not have the capacity to temper as it was not made with the instructions to do so. A primal has to willingly choose to do so, the game has established that it is an active thing a primal does, not a passive result of its presence. Therefore, not even accidental tempering is possible due to presence, which is the only arguable position you have for Zodiark being capable of tempering. You are objectively wrong, and unable to respectfully concede. have a nice day post haste.

                you are changing the goal posts by saying that the primal has to conciously claim people, when Ramuh fucking didn't. you fucking gay, please go die

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >just conveniently forgetting that the 'fervent desire to assimilate others into your belief' is a command planted into the new thrall
                No, it's a command planted into the primal.
                >"Beings thus created are instilled with the selfsame desire, and use their powers to enthrall people-starting with the summoner"
                >Beings thus created
                >are instilled
                >with the selfsame desire
                >and use their powers
                >to enthrall people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are arguing a definition of the term that the game itself uses differently. you're not more of an expert than the in game usage.

                why does the game use the term 'tempering' if it existed before the fervent desire to add others to your belief? Tempering is just the aetheric unbalancing, not the desire to spread it to others

                >but tempering doesnt do this
                you are predicating this entire argument by assuming Emet-Selch is LYING about being tempered, which you have no evidence of, word of god says he was tempered to zodiark. you have no argument. you're a retard arguing for your headcanon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so then Emet-Selch absolutely did and inarguably lied about being tempered since zodiark's element negates criteria for the condition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're a retard arguing for your headcanon
                oh the ironing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why does the game use the term 'tempering' if it existed before the fervent desire to add others to your belief?
                The term didn't exist before then. The term tempering originally was used to refer to Ifrit's enthralled, and just became used as a general term for primal enthrallment later. Emet-Selch calls it tempering because that's the term you're familiar with.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so now you're arguing semantics. wonderful. 'it doesn't count because the ancients referred to it as aetheric corruption'

                furthermore, you're using emet-selch as an expert on the topic when the basis of your argument is that he's lying to you about being tempered. if he's lying then, he's not a trustworthy source

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the ancients referred to it as aetheric corruption
                >the allagans are suddenly considered ancients
                What the fuck lmao

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Venat isn't an ancient now. fantastic

                >so now you're arguing semantics.
                I'm not arguing semantics. You're the one who argued that tempering refers to aetheric imbalance and not to enthrallment. But you're wrong, because the term originally referred to Ifrit's enthrallment.

                >no u

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The video you linked with a timestamp was allagans talking about tempering. Not ancients.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no u
                Anon, you can't make an argument that relies on a word's definition and then accuse me of semantics when I tell you the definition is wrong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the definition i presented is canonical. yours is bullshit you made up for the sake of argument

                The video you linked with a timestamp was allagans talking about tempering. Not ancients.

                ?t=478

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "corruption" is a generic term in that context. There are dozens of ways aether can be corrupted that are not explicitly tempering.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the definition i presented is canonical. yours is bullshit you made up for the sake of argument
                lol now this is fucking cope. Anon, the term tempering originally referred to Ifrit's enthrallment. That's canonical fact. Just like Leviathan's enthrallment is called drowning and Ramuh's is called touching. Tempering just ended up becoming the general term later. It specifically refers to enthrallment.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes. and enthrallment i never argued wasn't part of tempering.

                my argument is that emet-selch used the term because he's enthralled to zodiark. tempering is then used to describe the victims of enthrallment from lakshmi, the queen, odin, eurekan primals, etc, thus tempering is the catch all for enthrallment to a primal.

                the 'fervent desire to assimilate others to one's beliefs' is added after the fact.

                Tempering already existed before the ascians started handing out bad acid. it doesn't matter what it was called then, because we're using the catch all term. Tempering == wanting to assimilate others into your beliefs. Its serving the primal.

                The desire to assimilate others is added into the creation of the primal. the primal then wants to go out and claim new servants.

                everything i have said is supported in game.

                now, the attack on this argument is that Emet-Selch is lying.

                1: what reason do we have to believe he's lying
                2: has he knowingly lied to us before

                there is simply no evidence to support the statement 'emet selch is lying about being tempered'

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what reason do we have to believe he's lying
                He takes actions that he intends to result in the death of his god, which should be impossible.
                >has he knowingly lied to us before
                Yes, he lies before he tells you he's tempered, actually. When he claims that he believes the sundered aren't actually human, he's lying. We know he's lying because
                >He was a patron of the arts and truly loved the arts of the sundered. Word of god from Oda says that he let the Ala Mhigans keep their anthem because he genuinely loved the song, and not because he was trying to demoralize them.
                >He loved sundered in the past, the biggest and most recent example being his first son as Solus. And he grieved heavily when that son died.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elidibus is not Zodiark. Elidibus himself referred to Zodiark as 'Lord', thus he sees him as seperate. The man who was sacrificed to become Zodiark ceased to exist, and then a primal of that man emerges later who becomes the Elidibus we know

                >He takes actions that he intends to result in the death of his god
                what part of putting down a separate primal has to do with hurting zodiark?

                >Yes, he lies before he tells you he's tempered, actually. When he claims that he believes the sundered aren't actually human,

                just because they made a song he liked doesn't mean he considered them human. him being sad about his son dying doesn't mean he doesn't consider them lesser

                he claims to have been testing man's worthiness to exist the entire time, but that doesn't mean he thought it would ever actually happen. as such, its not a lie. its actions we don't have enough information to determine his motivation for, and they're not mutually exclusive

                >there is simply no evidence to support the statement 'emet selch is lying about being tempered'
                Other than the fact that the games story tells you that tempering did not exist until the ascians introduced it to summoning techniques to further their rejoining plans therefore any primals/eikons summoned before the introduction of that technique have no will or reason to temper. Which would include Zodiark, thus making it impossible for Emet to be telling the truth, and falls in line with his coping justification for the bad things he is doing.

                so emet-selch is lying about being tempered because he's tempered? did i read that right?

                why would he have a coping mechanism if tempering worked the way you said it does? Nael van Darnus acted like a normal dude (lady) for 10 years while tempered to bahamut. tempering doesn't mean you're kowtowing to the god all the time, as per the less pious primals like ramuh and leviathan

                we know tempering makes you serve the primal, but we don't know the exact specifics, or if there's room for interpretation on the tempered's part. there's also tiamat who was tempered by bahamut but certainly didn't do much to try and serve him while she was locked up for millenia.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Elidibus is not Zodiark.
                Come on, man.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so emet selch is lying about being tempered because he's tempered? did i read that right
                No, your reading comprehension regarding my posts is just as bad as the dialogue boxes in game apparently.
                I said that emet is lying about being tempered to cope with the fact he is doing bad things. Throughout his story arc you learn things about him that demonstrably prove he does give a shit about the unsundered, and he even argues that he "tried to live among them" towards the finale. But he can justify his crusade to himself (or to you) by either delusionally believing himself to be tempered, or saying it enough times for it to maybe be true (what he actually does). He is not tempered.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >unsundered
                i meant sundered fuck me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're making several assumptions which require several extra working parts to make your statement true. your entire basis for emet-selch lying isn't supported by in game text or actions. your argument is based on your interpretation of his actions.

                its a nice theory, but that is it at best, and at worst its wrong.

                >Elidibus is not Zodiark.
                Come on, man.

                >Elidibus is not Zodiark.

                Yes. You killed Elidibus and Zodiark still existed. Elidibus referred to Zodiark as someone else. Elidibus the primal separated himself from the flesh-mech that Zodiark was created as and left him without a will. Elidibus was jumping around shards making heroes. Zodiark was stuck in a cage on the moon. Emet-Selch referred to them as different entities.

                they are different beings. full stop. no argument. Elidibus may have come from Zodiark but you are not your mother because you came from her.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You killed Elidibus and Zodiark still existed.
                The empty shell remained because Elidibus removed himself from it. Elidibus is the heart of Zodiark, he IS Zodiark. The rest is just a shell that formed around that heart.
                >Elidibus referred to Zodiark as someone else.
                Yes, he sees himself as Elidibus. But Emet-Selch knows that the Elidibus standing in front of him is the transmuted heart of Zodiark. He knew that Elidibus was the heart of Zodiark, so he shouldn't have been able to even consider killing him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                are you your heart anon?

                He WAS Zodiark at one point I'll allow. But since they were completely separate beings, Z not having its own will, Elidibus becoming a hero on the shards, them not having the same body, them not having the same soul. one died while the other survived.

                you also mentioned that he was the 'heart of Zodiark' 3 times. if he were truly the exact same entity as zodiark, and we know from word of god that Zodiark's shards on the other shards of the world disappeared when we killed Zodiark, why did Elidibus' soul remain in the crystal tower and not likewise dissipate? surely the crystal tower isn't more powerful than a ward designed by a supreme deity to hold another supreme deity

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >are you your heart anon?
                No, but I'm not a magical being constructed around a crystal heart.
                >them not having the same body, them not having the same soul.
                The thing in the moon was the body, Elidibus was the soul. It was no different than the Scions leaving their bodies behind when they were on the First. Their souls are their selves.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and if you killed their slumbering bodies, like say, having their aether destabilize bad enough that krile had to babysit them, what would happen to the other half? they'd die.

                elidibus' soul still existed within the crystal tower after zodiark was destroyed. as proposed, they are not the same being.

                >doesnt even understand the simplest concepts of the lore such as that the crystal tower is a big antennae designed to absorb aether from dalamud and would thusly simultaneously function as a battery that holds said aether, and cannot understand why elidibus's aether would still be in said battery since no power was required until we do in fact need it and it burns up his soul in the process
                Holy fuck you are retarded.

                so are you saying that the crystal tower is better at holding a soul in place than the wards hydaelyn made?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why would the wards of hydaelyn need to be compared? Elidibus is zodiarks soul. He's not as powerful as a fully formed zodiark which is what those wards were designed to do. Every ascian has been susceptible to white auracite at least temporarily. The crystal tower was literally compared to a massive white auracite by G'raha. Why would it not be able to contain a weakened Elidibus? You are literally grasping at straws you fucking loser. Just take the loss already.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Elidibus is separate from Zodiark. as i've stated several times and given several in game examples as to how they're separate.

                them being one at one point == they're one now.

                elidibus had a will and z doesn't, zodiark died and elidibus still remained. elidibus' own MO according to him was faith and prayer in heroes, but that isn't what sustained zodiark. they have separate forms

                i'm afraid i don't understand. what am i not getting across. even if they are two halves of the same individual they're still different beings. elidibus and zodiark could be standing next to each other. people refer to them as separate beings. why am i not able to get this point across?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >elidibus had a will and z doesn't
                That's because Elidibus WAS his will. He was Zodiark's soul.
                >elidibus' own MO according to him was faith and prayer in heroes, but that isn't what sustained zodiark.
                Elidibus was attracted to the faith in heroes because it was similar enough to the idea of salvation that Zodiark was summoned with. He needed a replacement faith, and heroes provide salvation.
                >elidibus and zodiark could be standing next to each other. people refer to them as separate beings.
                How people refer to them is irrelevant because they simply are two pieces of a single being. You wouldn't say that Hades is no longer Hades because he's not in his body anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That's because Elidibus WAS his will. He was Zodiark's soul.
                WAS, thank you.

                >Elidibus was attracted to the faith in heroes because it was similar enough to the idea of salvation that Zodiark was summoned with. He needed a replacement faith, and heroes provide salvation.

                it provided him the power to go on, yes. but something else was sustaining zodiark. there had to have been something because even hydaelyn needed him to maintain the barrier. zodiark also couldn't have been feeding off of the same prayer

                >How people refer to them is irrelevant because they simply are two pieces of a single being. You wouldn't say that Hades is no longer Hades because he's not in his body anymore.

                but if his body was doing its own thing and his soul was doing another, and they had different names, and if one referred to the other half as a different being, i would think of them as separate beings yes. Ardbert and I are both Azem shards, arguably even more intimately connected than zodiark and elidibus (parts of the same soul versus a body and its soul) but no one would say we're the same guy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesnt even understand the simplest concepts of the lore such as that the crystal tower is a big antennae designed to absorb aether from dalamud and would thusly simultaneously function as a battery that holds said aether, and cannot understand why elidibus's aether would still be in said battery since no power was required until we do in fact need it and it burns up his soul in the process
                Holy fuck you are retarded.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why did Elidibus' soul remain in the crystal tower and not likewise dissipate?
                Forgot to address this point. But for the same reason I mention here

                >are you your heart anon?
                No, but I'm not a magical being constructed around a crystal heart.
                >them not having the same body, them not having the same soul.
                The thing in the moon was the body, Elidibus was the soul. It was no different than the Scions leaving their bodies behind when they were on the First. Their souls are their selves.

                The same way an Ascian can abandon their flesh and keep on going regardless, Elidibus was the ejected soul of Zodiark.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Elidibus is not Zodiark.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there is simply no evidence to support the statement 'emet selch is lying about being tempered'
                Other than the fact that the games story tells you that tempering did not exist until the ascians introduced it to summoning techniques to further their rejoining plans therefore any primals/eikons summoned before the introduction of that technique have no will or reason to temper. Which would include Zodiark, thus making it impossible for Emet to be telling the truth, and falls in line with his coping justification for the bad things he is doing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >so now you're arguing semantics.
                I'm not arguing semantics. You're the one who argued that tempering refers to aetheric imbalance and not to enthrallment. But you're wrong, because the term originally referred to Ifrit's enthrallment.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "Word of god" is Emet Selch himself who is coping the entire expansion and ends it with suicide by hero

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                so then Emet-Selch absolutely did and inarguably lied about being tempered since zodiark's element negates criteria for the condition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >when Ramuh fucking didn't
                Yes he did. The sylphs begged him for his "protection" so he gave it to them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >when ramuh fucking didnt
                He absolutely did willingly choose to temper them retard, he was the forest protector. Their tempering is also noticeably less severe than that of comparable victims like those of Ifrit and Titan. They are tempered to the primals will. The primals will is to protect the forest. There is zero indication his mere presence tempered them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Las Vegas Fan Fest Lore Panel 2014:

                >Bayohne: “It has been noted in-game that Ramuh does not seek to temper people to gain followers in the way that Ifrit, Leviathan, and so on do. So why are there so many touched sylphs?”

                >Fernehalwes: “It’s a little bit different from the other beast tribes. In the other tribes, they worship the primal so they summon it, then the primal goes, ‘I want more thralls!’ But Ramuh is a bit more laid back. He doesn’t want to control everyone and create a dominion where it’s just Ramuh and his followers. He’s a man of reason, he’s a judge.
                >But the thing is, the Sylphs are a little bit crazy. Some of the Sylphs want a strong leader. They look at the other beast tribes and they see that they’re strong because they’ve been tempered or they’ve been drowned, and that gives them that connection with their primal. So you have sylphs that want that same thing. So some sylphs go to Ramuh and ask him to temper them, and he does. But the thing is, Ramuh doesn’t force it on other sylphs. So you have a group of sylphs who aren’t worried about summoning Ramuh and just want to live in peace and then there’s the other ones who believe they have to temper more sylphs.”

                You lost buddy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The primal has to WILLINGLY CHOOSE to temper you retard. If the idea to temper you is not introduced into its summoning, it has no reason to fucking choose to temper you.
                At no point during any other primal cutscene in the game, has tempering been shown to just passively happen to things around the primal. It always shows the primal choosing to temper them. This is demonstrated during at minimum, Ifrit, Titan, and Lakshmi cutscenes in both ARR and Stormblood. The Lakshmi one even has you playing as temper immune people blocking her attempts to temper others.
                You're wrong, and a retard to boot with your gay reddit spacing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stop being a smug cunt you little gay retard. I moved no goalposts. Zodiark did not have the capacity to temper as it was not made with the instructions to do so. A primal has to willingly choose to do so, the game has established that it is an active thing a primal does, not a passive result of its presence. Therefore, not even accidental tempering is possible due to presence, which is the only arguable position you have for Zodiark being capable of tempering. You are objectively wrong, and unable to respectfully concede. have a nice day post haste.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im pretty sure i saw this exact thread before

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you did it was 2 days ago. You're not a schizo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is the third or fourth time he's made it in the past few days

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    im glad i never fell for the hydaelyn meme

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hated hydaelyn ever since Ultima weapon, they're basically the same thing. I don't understand why Hydaelyn is the only one allowed to drain primals

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Before EW
    >The Warrior of Light is powerful because of the Echo and the events they've been forced through that tested their limits and became the catalyst to surpassing them despite many others also having the Echo
    >After EW
    >You're The Special because you have the soul of one of the most powerful Ascians

    Dumb, very dumb. Also your soul should've been Hythlodaeus but they fucked that up the moment you go to the moon and meet him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you actually skip the entirety of Shadowbringers? Because it sure as fuck sounds like you did.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>You're The Special because you have the soul of one of the most powerful Ascians
      literally never has any bearing on the plot other than being an excuse to give wol a stone that just explains how 8-man content works

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >one of the most powerful ascians
      its never once stated that azem is powerful. just that he was an adventuring autist just like you. it sets in stone that adventure and discovery and kindness/exploration is deep rooted in your very soul. it has nothing to do with power.
      few ascians actually "fought" in the generic sense of the term so being glorified PR stooge for the convocation isn't exactly an indication of strength.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you mean before ShB.
      ShB and EW has the Warrior of Light summon imaginary friends instead of just having them nearby to help fight

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        using Azem's crystal summons real friends

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Did you seriously skip one of the best parts in the game? You're strong not only because of what you've been through and how far you've pushed yourself, but also because you're 8 times rejoined while everyone else is 7.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Azem is just a traveler. He's not Goku.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ZODIARK STANCE LETS KILL DA HOE

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: times you went into Zodiark Trance IRL

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it a stretch to say this ESL retard coined zodiark trance from Morbin Time. It really feels like its the same fucking thing and I cant see it as anything else.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >trance
        FFVI I think. or was it IV?
        I think he took it from another FF.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          VI, IX, and XIV all have it

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    game so formulaic even the threads dedicated to it are formulaic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    venat is evil, simping for her retarded plan that didn't even work won't change that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. did not walk

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Neither did Arenvald

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          he walked so hard he went full circle

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's not genocide bro, I just destroyed your body and soul and put fragments of it inside a sahagin

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I forgot that a Sahagin priest had the echo in post ARR, which means some ancients were reborn as fucking fishmen. That must suck.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Better than being born shorter than 6 feet tall.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Be ancient
        >Have super idealistic life as a super-powerful, god-like entity living in paradise
        >Have wife and kids who love you
        >Final Days happen
        >Get sundered
        years later you're reborn as a retarded fishman
        >Take up the humble life of a priest for your fishman tribe
        >One day get awakened to the echo, probably by accident when Hydaelyn awoke the WOL to his ehco
        >Take deal with Ascians, you're unsundered past-life bros
        >You end up being used as a pawn in their schemes to summon a primal and get abandoned after WOL and crew come to stop you
        >Primal proceeds to eat your soul

        JUST

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Emet simps seething hard ITT

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh my god ninja is so fun in pvp, why can't it play like this in pve.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ninja in PvP is more flavorful and well designed than it is in PvE
      hell PvP in general has a ton of stuff that just adds to the job fantasy, like DRGs jumping that actually keeps them in the air, DRKs being able to use HP for damage and so forth, its nice, wish jobs in PvE had some

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget BLM have little to no cast time, which is even more fun

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do I unlock zodiark trance IRL

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M GONA
    I'M GONNA
    ZODYAARK TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNCEEEEEEEE
    AAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw players start zodiark trancing and it starts sundering the servers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gonna zodiark trance my pumpkins on my island sanctuary if they dont grow properly i swear to god

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what the fuck is this forced meme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >forced
      its just a cringe comic someone posted and people are having fun with it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah, the guy didn't even change the filename of the Venat image. It's just one person spamming the joke.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oh the venat thing, I thought he was referring to the zodiark trance posting

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, when he makes the thread without the Venat image it only lasted 4 posts.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes, I meant the zodiark trance.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EW was so fucking bad

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How are you gays not forced to /vg/ yet I fucking hate this gay shit board full of gay useless mods

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't pop a blood vessel, retard. Just hide the thread.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I better not see any zodiark trance macros in the coming weeks I swear to god.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Summoners/Dark Knights are the ones who'll probably use it the most lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm making one right now just because you said something.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        FUCK YOU

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >"Remember...that we once...oh no, is that...ZODIARK TRANCE AAAAAIIIIIEEEEE"!

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do her shoulders look so wide?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      centuries of adventuring made Mommy STRONK

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To carry her big juicy milkers

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ZODIARK TRANCE would have been better wifn a malera instead of Juan Fantasia

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how apm intensive is your job?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am apparently top tier

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NIN, MCH and GNB that high up
      rip my hands

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My two mains are right at the bottom, it's comfy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slap on regen and medica to tank
      >nothing but stone IV
      yup
      it's gaymer time

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah but he'd still only be able to rotate shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he can still cast meteor and starstorm

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >long time raiding friend chuded out

    how do I save him

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Don't know this literally who twitch eceleb and don't care

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      who

      NTA but here:

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        once again
        W H O?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          An vtuber FFXIV Twitch streamer who's a guy IRL but using a catgirl avatar for some reason. Got banned today on another streamer's stream for using UI addons for 11 days. GM's are really creacking down on addons now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ok cool

            now fuck off vtuberfag

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh I thought it was a different Haru I used to follow during SB, I have no idea who this one is.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    who

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dead game

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to cum inside Yugiri with the force of a thousands suns

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yugiri is innocent anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Make it double penetrations and I'm in.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I want to cum inside Yugiri with the force of a thousands suns

        Two's not nearly enough. You're gonna need a team...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Got any room for a Hellsguard Maleroe?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is ZODIARK STANCE basically like Morbing?

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >just died at floor 198 in potd
    why me yoship?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I spent this week grinding out the Necromancer title and I feel you anon. I'm sorry that happened man. The run is a real bitch.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why are you still shilling this shit you fucking gay

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to play SAM
    >muscle memory keeps fucking me over by hitting the button Kaiten used to be on
    I fucking miss it bros.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    UH Ganker CHUDS, THEY'RE ON TO YOU. THINK YOU COULD GET AWAY WITH STEALING AN ARTIST'S COMIC AND MAKING EDITS OF IT TO MOCK IT WITHOUT PERMISSION? THINK AGAIN

    WE DO NOT FORGIVE. WE DO NOT FORGET. EXPECT US

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >XIVfags are redditors unironically linking Reddit on Ganker
    checks out

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lowest damage at all level ranges of the tanks outside of a few fights where if you play like a beast you'll still be way lower then a drk or gnb trying not as hard as you.
    >Rotation is either simple to the point of boring or overly complex to optimize for no reward depending on level
    >Ranged phase is of questionable benefit because you need to be in melee to build oath meter and most of the time either you can hit the boss in melee anyway or cant hit them at all
    >Can't heal themselves without handicapping their damage until 84 because instead it has RNG shield blocking
    >Doesn't have a dash until 74, 10-20 levels after the other 3
    >Divine veil is noticeably weaker then the other three 90s tank party mits despite being the only one that needs setup and doesn't effect you personally.
    >Hallow ground after 6.1 is comfortably the worst tank invuln that has a few niche situations where its the most useful and a super majority of situations where it's the least useful
    >Is down a personal tank cooldown compared to the other tanks because it has cover, wings and shield bash instead - three moves of extremely niche value - despite the cooldowns it does have being the same or worse then equivalent tank buttons
    >Worst class + job quests in the whole game. The gladiator is actually a private police that never steps foot in the arena and the paladin is actually someone who spends all their time fighting other paladins instead of helping anyone.

    and this is after getting buffed constantly in every patch for endwalker because it's the poster boy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Is down a personal tank cooldown compared to the other tanks because it has cover, wings and shield bash instead - three moves of extremely niche value - despite the cooldowns it does have being the same or worse then equivalent tank buttons
      Incorrect: PLD has passive shield block, which is an additional form of mitigation the other tanks do not, and will never, have.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pld random blocking would maybe matter if boss auto attacks mattered, but they don't so instead it just never blocks when you need to block something

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ask me how I know you've never done anything beyond expert dungeons.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the fact that I do savage/ex is why I think paladin blocks sucks shit, everything the boss does will either kill you unless you actively mitigate it heavily (so you cant rely on random chance blocks), is an aoe that will require the healers to heal everyone (so even if you do block it didn't matter) or is something that will just kill you no matter how much mitigation you stack because you fucked up a mechanic

            the blocking does help against boss autos, but every other tank can just do their 123 combo that heals them and laugh those off outside of very specific situations where you're probably just gonna start using actual mitigations again. sheltron is good. RNG blocking is a cope because you only have dumbass clemency to heal yourself pre 84 and then you find yourself using magic phase less often then the other 3 tanks use their heal combo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah and it effectively turns off every time you use sheltron
        if sheltron increased your block strength nobody would be complaining, and don't point out knight's resolve because every tank got that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >job quests in the whole game
      this is warrior, complete with ensuring a woman into you gets GORGED instead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wol has enough bitches, including aura bitches, george is a bro and your bro deserves a woman

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does WAR really get cucked?
        I'm interested

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, she's interested for all of five seconds and all other parts are your job tutor's overt attraction to an au ra WAR and the au ra being tsundere about it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, unironically
          >see warrior girl that's into you and thinks you're the best
          >sperg out and avoid her
          >by the time you can reciprocate interest, she doesn't care about you anymore and spends her time "training" with gorge
          canonical cucks unless you're a female character

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yes, unironically
          >see warrior girl that's into you and thinks you're the best
          >sperg out and avoid her
          >by the time you can reciprocate interest, she doesn't care about you anymore and spends her time "training" with gorge
          canonical cucks unless you're a female character

          a girl in the later warrior quests either has a crush on you or just a bit of a hero worship going on because you've been a better warrior then the quest npc since somewhere in the 40-50 range and she's also kind of an anime cliche so she acts like a bitch to gorge - who she actually likes - and is really nice to you

          also her dad suggests you marry her because you're such a chad warrior but even if you say you're open to the idea she's very clearly against it, and then the warrior quest guy gets the wrong idea so it's mostly people seeing what they want to see

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just want to mating press Lalafells

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    XIVfags are mentally ill

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >WoWbuck throwing stones in xir glass cuckshed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Implying I play MMOs
        I'll give you that WoWfags are worse but only because the only ones left are the dregs of the playerbase

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >EW didn't have hot sweaty babymaking sex between venat and the wol
    >Not branching off the elpis timeline with your dick after learning about Key points for your timeline
    >Not going back to the past to breed venat
    >Lost minfilia
    >Lost Lyse
    >Lost yugiri
    >Lost Zenos
    >Lost Feo ul
    FUCK DESTINY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Feo Ul is fine, graha mentions her in the post game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Feo ul is still there

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Venat is an excellent character. Her Hydaelyn design is beautiful and very Amano. I also liked how when in Elpis you learn that Venat didn't agree with the "death is beautiful ending after your purpose is done" and yet that is exactly how she dies.

    Endwalker was a fantastic ending to a 10 year story, and sure, I could nitpick a few things I didn't like, but I can do that with every xpac. FFXIV is one of my favorite stories and games ever.

    Reddit sucks
    Edgetards who actually believed Hydaelyn was evil are retarded

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought she was going to have a moment where her primal nature overrides her intentions and she needs us to put her down before it gets worse.
      But I only had a few moments where "she might be plotting shit"
      She's also nice. 🙂

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WAR rage is just WoL thinking about the femra getting fucked by George
    lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      never forgetti her dad offering you her hand and all but one of your responses are "no way fag"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Be retard who ignores cute girl with a crush on you so she gets fucked by a bigger retard than you who you pretend is worse off as cope
      haha...imagine being this IRL....couldn't be me...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WOL has at least 5 better femra into him, gorge can have her

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reminder to fuck your WAR tank's EB to increase their parse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xaela are mongols thus have horrid personal hygiene
      Its a dodged bullet

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>Hey dude, it's whatever if you want to insult my English, I'm aware that my English isn't that good and writing is always my weakness. But I take offense to your unfounded accusation of tracing images. I don't spend months drawing this in my spare time only for people like you to say things like that.

    I was trying to make something out of my comfort zone, I was frustrated by it, yet I still try my best to finish this. I had to keep drawing even when I was really sick last week, because otherwise I will lose my nerve and motivation. So yeah, to say this piece is important to me is an understatement.

    Do you really how toxic you are? Why can't you be like anyone else who only insult me with "lol so edgy" "your argument is weak" "venat isn't evil you idiot"? But no, you had to bring my art into the fight by accusing me of tracing. Next time you see some artworks you hate, kindly downvote it and move on.

    Yeah, it's Zodiark Trance time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ZODIARK TRACE

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If that took him months, which should only take a few weeks, then damn this guy definitely traces

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Allright so taking bets on what Zenos Voidsent's angle is gonna end up being, since his datamind is "Zero".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      he wants to be our friend 🙂

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish our voidsent looked cool or had ANY kind of story/personality to him. God Reaper quests were lame as fuck.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Zenos is dead
      >two patches later introduce "Zeros"
      Really Yoshida.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zero + us
      Zeromus

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BBF

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I didn’t want Hydaelyn to be evil per se, but I think they dropped the ball by not having the blessing of ligh be her tempering. It would have been a neat explanation as to why so many adventures are chosen by it, that it’s actually a reversal and the blessing of light tempers them and drives them to adventure since it’s the nature of Azems to act in such a way.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the Venachud btfo so badly in that one thread that he now keeps spamming threads multiple times per day in order to astroturf his retarded opinion
    Equal parts insane and pathetic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Still reposting his blatantly wrong headcanon

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What this entire discussion proves is how so many people have wildly different, and outright factually innacurate, interpretations of fictional media.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All that mouth is good for is sucking my cock. Now stop talking and get to work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Lalafel
        >Cock

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've satisfied many a woman in all my summers!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Source on image? Post the full version.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post it yourself.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Venat is a good character because she is hot

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Femra

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cute lizards.

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >linking to reddit
    kys

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.reddit.com/r/SuicideWatch/

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come there's barely any porn of her despite her being a 10/10 sex goddess?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because the design's only existed as anything other than a random recording at the end of a dungeon for less than a year, and if you're putting in the effort of making and completing a drawing you may as well just set out doing the 10/10 design made by Amano that people are actually going to be looking at in Extremes/Roulettes on a continuing basis.

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Face 1

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What made XI's story so good? XIV's was good but just didn't hit the same, why?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because when you look closely XIV's story is actually just XI's story but sorta worse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nostalgia goggles

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I played FFXI and did all the way to the end of CoP when i was done with 6.1 on FFXIV and the story is much better on FFXI. It's kinda the same but the storytelling on FFXI is just better crafted. Done just masterfully. You can't really see anything close on FFXIV.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's literally the same thing but worse

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he said something similar to what hades said in ffxiv
          >they are exactly the same thing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dense.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              see

              You can make any story sound retarded if you want to be a gay, it's not hard.

              don't be a gay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're actually retarded, most of the major story points in XIV are taken straight from XI, they couldn't even bother to create their own backstory and lore.

                I'm looking forward to 7.0 and our travels to not-adoulin.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Tell me then, Eco Warrior, if FFXI is so great, why do they not make their own threads?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There was one yesterday or the day before. Getting mad at people talking about XI in a XIV thread or vice versa is like going into a Skyrim thread and getting mad when people mention Morrowind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                XIV draws heavily from XI, but it's just using a very similar framework to look at the same themes in a different way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Emet gives a few nods to XI Hades, but XI's Hades is much closer to Endsinger. He was trying to unmake everything because he thought the only truth in life was suffering.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He was trying to unmake everything because he thought the only truth in life was suffering.
            Wait. They even rip off that too?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's not that unique of a motivation in Japanese media.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                one of the most common villain motivations of all time

                what other ones do this? i like those villians

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                In terms of video games theres nyx, malos and kerghan. probably others im forgetting

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              one of the most common villain motivations of all time

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              moron have you ever played an FF before

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They take shit from other FFs all the time. But saying FFXI story is the same as FFXIV is a big stretch.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        true, but you didn't have to say it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      XI has higher quality writing and is written in a way that it doesn't hold your hand through everything. It expects you to interact with the world and piece things together, and especially CoP was written with the intention that you need to pay the fuck attention and that you're very unlikely to understand the entire thing yourself and you should be talking with your friends and exchanging information to get the whole truth. It's also just very heavy on atmosphere.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dude, what if a guy became so angry that he became a super bad guy?
        >but then the weirdly smart brothers that run new york city killed that bad guy and were even superer?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can make any story sound retarded if you want to be a gay, it's not hard.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and if you reduce the storylines of xi and xiv enough you can claim that xiv is a copy of xi

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You could, yeah, and you'd be a stupid gay if you did so.

              The only thing i don't get is if Promathia actually died at the end? Because it was summoned, right? and got put to sleep again with the star of tavnazia?

              Prishe used the star to crystallize his emptiness, and then Altana intervened to cleanse him and scatter him back into the lifestream. If Promathia actually died then that would be the end of Vana'diel.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The only thing i don't get is if Promathia actually died at the end? Because it was summoned, right? and got put to sleep again with the star of tavnazia?

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is is making the game singeplayer is the game isn't dying?
    is the game dead?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not really. the RP community is enormous and the only people who are bored are those who've been playing for 9+ years like me.

      they want to make it single player at least for the MSQ so that people don't dodge it because its an online game. its basically several mainline titles in one long go

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not being made single player, it's just making it more single player friendly.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Fujo does a good job of NOT going the path of "Hydalyn is actually evil too"
    >dumbasses want that to be the way it went
    Nah, also the fight itself (mechanics wise) was great.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how can it be "hydaelyn was evil TOO" when zodiark wasnt even evil in the first place?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This was back when theories were that Zodiark was evil.

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is Ganker so mind-broken over this woman?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they're simping for hades and she won

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Since the sundering didn't change the nature of man and humanity will just do the same thing in the end anyway (shown with the Allagans), she lost hard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Please don't mind broke venatfags with facts. That's not nice.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the sundering didn't change the nature of man
          Then why was man able to defeat the final days?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Please don't try to reason with Hadesfags with facts, they can't understand them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because the Ascians kept resetting technology before it got too advanced

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That just makes it even more impressive that man was able to overcome the end of days.

              Have you ever consider we're literally the one and only specie in the whole universe that knew where the dicky bird was?

              What does that have to do with anything?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We were literally the only ones who could do anything because we knew where the bird was. Do venat retards really need to have everything explained to them? Are you really this retarded?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That just makes it even more impressive that man was able to overcome the end of days.
                The Allagans were sundered and they almost Ra-la'd themselves because they got too comfortable and collapsed into moral decay before based Amon saved them by bringing Xande back from the dead and starting a war.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                didn't emet selch have something to do with allag as well?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He helped create it, that's about all we know about his involvement.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He kicked off their technological revolution, like Garlemald.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Have you ever consider we're literally the one and only specie in the whole universe that knew where the dicky bird was?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because WoL is a chad and solves every problem ever.

            But like it's pointed out in ShB, eventually WoL will die and everyone will forget any of this ever happened.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And just like it's also pointed out in ShB, those who walked before will leave the torch to be picked up by those that will walk after.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm sure that's what the Plenty thought as well, considering it's stated that they went through a lot of strife to get their society to the level it was.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm sure that's what the Plenty thought as well
                No, that race strove to achieve perfection, like a lot of the other failed civilizations.

                Until there's a fumble. Come on, at the end of 5.0 it's explicitly said that eventually everything fades from memory, the same is true here.

                >it's explicitly said that eventually everything fades from memory
                Again, it also explicitly says there will be others to carry on your legacy in some way, knowingly or not. Then in EW g'raha muses that maybe souls are predisposed toward certian inclinations. The most obvious example being that of azem's shards being prone to wanderlust and adventuring.
                >but what if there's a fumble?
                You mean like an entire reflection being consumed by darkness. Well there's at least one survivor who's set to try and do something about it, and the msq has hinted that maybe all is not lost.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No, that race strove to achieve perfection
                How is that any different from what modern Aetherians are doing? Societies make incremental improvements, that's just how they work. Any civilization that doesn't die off will eventually become post scarcity, like the Plenty.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what do you thing the point of the sundering was?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Either to lessen man's aetheric density so that they could interact with dynamis, or so that they live harder lives but more fulfilled lives due to suffering, or both. Regardless the intention of the sundering doesn't matter. All I'm saying is that, regardless of Venat/the WoL/the writers intentions, all civilizations that dont die off will eventually achieve the "perfect" of the plenty unless they artificially impose challenges on themselves.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sundered man will never reach the kind of perfection on display in the plenty because they live short lives and strife is a constant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Functional immortality will be something that even real life humans eventually achieve, even if it takes thousands of years. You don't think Aetherians would eventually achieve it when allagns advanced as far as they did?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Archmagus Noah already invented functional immortality and she's using it to fuck strangers every night.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If anything that just proves my point further. Clearly its within the grasp of Aetherians eventually, probably soon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Plenty were also mortal once. But even the sundered went that route with Allag, and will do so again unless Cid decides to fuck off to become a luddite.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even when someone important dies, there will be someone else right behind to pick up the torch and advance some more, and so on. That's exactly what happened with the Ironworks from the Black Rose timeline.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If individual souls being predisposed towards certain attitudes could prevent civilizational apathy then Amaurot was never in any danger of that to begin with.

                At some point people's legacies die out. In the future mankind will advance and self-destruct just like every other one in existence ever. You can already see the seeds of dysfunction having been planted in modern Eorzea.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Until there's a fumble. Come on, at the end of 5.0 it's explicitly said that eventually everything fades from memory, the same is true here.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >man
            You mean a member of the amaurotine council nine times rejoined? WoL is as much of a mere man as you are a not a retarded child with downs for making such a stupid statement.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              WoL isn't an Ascian, he's not part of shit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He obviously meant that he soul belonged to a member of the council.

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Black Mage superior, other jobs inferior.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This whole "NOOOO SHE WAS REALLY EVIL DESPITE EVERYTHING! YOU ONLY DISAGREE BECAUSE MUH MOMMY WAIFU!" shit from the fanbase kinda reminds me of Fire Emblem. It seems a general theme is that female characters like this trigger people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Venat is far more defensible than Edelgard.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Edelgard
        >mommy
        Was referring to Rhea

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Rhea does come off as evil if you do Edelgard's route. I didn't do the others.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Let me put it this way. See that fanfic up there? Edelgard's route is basically the equivalent of that if it were actually in the game as compared to the other routes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Edelgard is 100% in the wrong and it's obvious in the other routes.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But anyone with a lick of intelligence would see that Venat and her plan was absolutely fucking stupid and she exterminated her own race because of a disagreement on the principles of how they should go about rebuilding.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        her race lives on in the multitude of races in eorzea and other shards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This post makes me happy to know I'm not a brainlet.

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idgaf but can someone gibe me the name of this semen demon and the search tags for this this type of clothing. much appreciated

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      venat, its modded though

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is not nearly enough Venat R34.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what a cringe comic, the guy who made it needs to take a shower and then go outside for a walk

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