I find it hilarious how much this place shat on the muted colors and heavy bloom and QTEs of the late 00s-mid 10s, and then when games of that era got remade with actual colors, removed QTEs, and less bloom everyone went fucking insane over it.
It's realistic, retard. The whole point is to recreate the sensation of real life.
I hate you people so much. Always chasing photorealism without understanding the objective of art, recreation of the sensation, not the thing itself.
Team ICO is a master at this but you're too much of a retarded adhd mouthbreather to understand it.
I wrote "it's".
Yes, it's realistic, as in it tries to reproduce the experience of the thing, rather than the thing itself. Photorealism is dumb and for people without taste, the biggest cancer in the videogame industry.
Someone's passion project where limitations were creatively worked around vs. someone else making utilitarian upgrades for money.
What is this? Was this the inspiration for the jailer beasts in One Piece?
Also, how come when I click on Choose File and hit a letter key, it doesn't go to the files that start with that letter? It looks like it's bouncing around randomly. Is this a Ganker bug?
I've been posting here 17 years and have never had this happen before.
>Was this the inspiration for the jailer beasts in One Piece?
Yes anon, the jailer beasts, one of which is literally called the minotaur and is an actual minotaur, were inspired by a Disney movie
One Piece is full of Disney inspirations and your picture looked like weapon-wielding animal prison guards, which is a little different than the minotaur legend.
Impel Down is inspired on the Divine Comedy. The minotaur appears in the Divine Comedy. Also it always was a beast meant to keep people from escaping a huge underground complex. And even though it didn't wield weapons in the myth, it often is depicted wielding weapons in pop media.
Now I'm sure Oda did watch the sleeping beauty because who the fuck hasn't, but it's not like there isn't a gazillion other media with soldier humanoid animals.
They look like they're in a dungeon and wearing armor, something like a prison guard. I'm not aware of many stories with something like that. That's why I brought it up. I genuinely don't recognize where they're from, that's why I asked. Nothing is inspired by a single thing. Imagine saying the orcs couldn't be inspired by Mongoloid invaders because Lord of the Rings is clearly inspired by Beowulf - which means it can't also be inspired by European history, Christianity or Norse mythology. Obviously, that's just too much, right? >sleeping beauty
Yeah, I watched that when I was 5 and don't remember them. Sorry, I guess.
>Was this the inspiration for the jailer beasts in One Piece?
Yes anon, the jailer beasts, one of which is literally called the minotaur and is an actual minotaur, were inspired by a Disney movie
I've been posting here 17 years and have never had this happen before.
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One Piece is full of Disney inspirations and your picture looked like weapon-wielding animal prison guards, which is a little different than the minotaur legend.
>onepiece fag when he hasn't talked about one piece in a random thread in over 5 minutes
True the face is worse. It appears they tried to match the in-game face with the promotional face from the cover. But the cover art face always felt like it was off. The face everyone fell in love with was the in-game one.
>lol no, they need to use graphical effects from the latest api. you can't replicate ps2 effects without making it look like shit in high fidelity.
Actual drooling retard take.
>you just can't remake graphical effects that were done on ps2 on modern hardware
braindead drones be like I want my games to look worse and I don't care as long as there's 3 more pixels
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Bloom is pure soul and kino, all media should use it as much as possible.
Bloom is not inherently good or bad. It's all in how you use it. SotC used bloom in a smart way. Which completely flew over the heads of the remake guys.
PS4 obviously looks better than PS2 version. Why do retards suddenly pretend bloom doesn't look like shit when it comes to this game? They don't do this for any other game.
>our artistic contribution is uhhhhhhhhhhhh >......square pillars instead of round
Why are they like this? You cant convince me they aren't deliberately taking the piss out of the OG fans
i cannot even begin to comprehend how something like this can happen
hell i remember some people claiming the games looked good before release, they didnt, they looked like shit from the moment the remasters were revealed
'Return to Arkham' a duology of Asylum and City remasters.
how did oldschool devs have so much talent?
Pioneers doing things that were not streamlined yet, making and bending rules as they want because they loved the medium, while also competing with teams that were trying to do the same, but better.
>Why do they always look worse?
Often not created by the original team or have the key creative person of the original involved
Assets are often just sent to a third party to improve textures and models individually, but never viewed in scene together
Often "improved" but with no artistic merit or completely misunderstands the original vision
because they were constantly working with new technology so they always had to find creative ways to overcome their problems. and everyone else making games were also on the same page so everyone was just experimenting, making shit on their own.
nowadays, people just look at each others homework and copy it based on whatever is popular. sure, i guess you can argue that people were like that back then as well. but i feel like people still took more creative chances.
I always hear about the damned stamina bar whenever someone brings up the ps3 version. I played it and passed it without issues. Maybe it was harder? Sure, but not really a game changer. Maybe you get an extra half a second in the original?
If you play both versions back to back then you'll notice. I recall Wander getting exhausted even getting to the top of the 2nd Colossus which never happened on PS2. You can't even do some of the Time Attacks without it being a clutch each time. It's really not enjoyable. There's just no defending this unintended artificial spike in difficulty.
There are exceptions. Nier Replicant I think is better pretty much all around, from graphical fidelity to the shift in art direction to look a bit more like Automata. The ZOE M∀RS Remaster is overall fantastic, have very few complaints. The FFX Remaster improves a lot of models and textures, but I'll admit some of the faces look off.
But yeah, there's almost always stuff lost in translation for any Remake or Remaster.
Okay, so he didn't look deeply surprised all the time in the original? Wonder how they fucked that up.
>The ZOE M∀RS Remaster is overall fantastic
This has really shitty updated textures, bad remaster. >The FFX Remaster improves a lot of models and textures,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Remasters that look objectively better than the originals(increased resolution aside)
- Okami, especially with mods to remove blur effects
- Valkyria Chronicles but only the PC version
- Resonance of Fate I think
- FF12 but only on PC with mods
- Dragons Dogma on PC
- GTA V
- Tactics Ogre maybe?
- Halo remaster since it has the swap function?
- Diablo 2 remaster since it also has that swap function?
I can't think of anything else but I do want to mention Nier Replicant, it's not objectively better since it does mess with the art style but it is a fantastic remake. Gravity Rush is another one in the same boat, it kinda looks worse than what you'd want but it still looks good and runs at 60fps.
No they just like lighting. DE has some models that look better but some that look worse. The animations and tity physics as well as the lighting are almost always worse. It's overall worse looking than the original game especially emulated.
Twilight princess and skyward sword and windwaker[more bloom} are literally the same games but in HD
they're all improvements unless you are extremely autistic
I dunno about SS but WW fucks up the colors and lighting and TP fucks up textures and lighting. They are not the same games.
you forgot katamari remasters otherwise I have to disagree
they're good enough and look objectively better than playing gamecube editions with hd texture pack
>- Okami, especially with mods to remove blur effects
Wii version was already too sharp and by removing fog together with it, you lose the look of old painting.
I wouldn't mind different take of newer releases, but they didn't bother to increase LoD enough.
>- Tactics Ogre maybe?
Are you fucking retarded? The Tactics Ogre remake was good mechanically and they did an amazing job with the soundtrack, but the visuals were completely fucked up and it looks like they just ran the game through 2x supereagle and called it a day.
You shitlords have no idea what a bad remaster is. Silent Hill HD Collection went so much beyond just the visuals, but fucking up FOG in Silent Hill is the easiest thing to mock. You see level edges you were clearly not intended to.
Fucking up fog is rather common as almost nobody wants to bother to recreate PS2 posprocessing magic. It is weird they didnt bother to expand 'world' textures though.
different artists? newer technology allows for higher fidelity but gives artists less control? newer technology looks "better" with less effort, thus artists have less freedom to tinker with it because the business people don't give a shit since it already looks "good enough"? older technology hides flaws? older technology is more limited and limitations drive creativity?
prebaked lighting vs real time lighting
you can make realtime lighting look as good, but why bother, the point of a remaster is to ship out a turd with no effort in the first place
Even with the best intentions you end up with shit like cropped cutscenes or cut content like silly mini games. It's still not a complete game like the original was for entirely arbitrary reasons.
It's not fixed but a step in the right direction. Twin Snakes is too clean. Shadow Moses is a gritty place, like a patch of rust on a shining piece of metal. Twin Snakes is only the shine.
I honestly like how DX looks even if it could use some more contrast
i actually really liked DX, but i hated how they ruined the box art and made it all happy-cutesy.
even though the game itself might be kind of ugly, i still overall really liked the style and how they tried to make it imitate the watercolour art pieces, if they'd been given a bigger budget it probably would've been fucking beautiful.
Twilight princess and skyward sword and windwaker[more bloom} are literally the same games but in HD
they're all improvements unless you are extremely autistic
Nope. Every single remake and remaster has shat all over the original because the devs hate old material. Look at the Spyro and Crash remasters for the best examples.
Metroid prime remastered
Zero mission
Samus returns
Link's awakening
Superstar ultra
Unironically all tendie remakes but what can i say nintendo does good remasters
This really drives how much harder it is to be a disingenuous clown when posting actual gameplay clips compared to screenshots like OP. Everything in this clip but the missing dynamic lighting on the projectile looks way, way better on the right
Your post implied the remake was not an objective improvement. Showing a single thing that is worse doesn't mean the remake is not an objective improvement. Or would you say a burnt pizza is objectively better than a well cooked one because it has a single more pepperoni on it?
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>Your post implied the remake was not an objective improvement.
Yes, that is correct. An objective improvement would not downgrade things from the original. The remake removed the beam lighting and fucked up various environmental designs, so it is not an objective improvement, it is at best a subjective one.
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There's no such thing as an objective improvement then. Even if nothing was missing and everything was technically improved you could still argue you liked the atmosphere better when the graphics were technically worse.
Doesn't change the fact that 99% of the both the general population AND professionals will agree on which version is better.
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Back to screenshots eh? Very smart
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From shit to shit.
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congrats you found a spot where they didn't butcher it
the HUD still looks worse and gives away it's sterile, passionless nature
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right is the demake
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that's what I said yes
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>antiremake fags can't even agree which picture looks worse on their own propaganda
You're killing me guys. You cannot make this shit up
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>the HUD still looks worse and gives away it's sterile, passionless nature
I thought this picture was a joke.
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>Things are missing and other things were fucked up, so that means that if everything was perfect it'd still be bad!
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>This one thing not in the Remaster makes it obsolete
Next you'll use the mirror argument like an NPC.
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>Original
Walking down the corridor and then you trip because some retard thought to put a hole in there >Remaster
Walk down the corridor normally because that's how a floor is supposed to be
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>space pirates don't design their ships according to human health & safety standards
the remake looks worse in every other way
it looks like you given the game to some random oursource company
prime hack is the only way to enjoy these games today >playing only one game that doesnt even look good
I look at the top image, I instantly know it's Metroid Prime. I look at the bottom image, I see a shitty Unity landscape that could be from any game.
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>I look at the top image, I instantly know it's Metroid Prime because it looks like shit.
Way to backhand the game you cherish.
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>it looks like shit because it's not ultra-realistic and overdesigned!
Children these days.
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>I look at the top image, I instantly know it's Metroid Prime.
Yeah, and your mom can pick you out of a crowd, doesn't change the fact that you look just like any other mongoloid homosexual.
this hurts so bad to watch, do they even realize how old the gamecube is, how does it have better lighting, there is no way to justify this, how do people buy this slop and not feel ashamed of themselves, aaaaaaAAAaaaaa
anon most people are so genuinely stupid they would rather buy a remaster/remake of a game that has nothing wrong with it even with fan made hacks that make it playable on modern controllers
you can play all 3 prime games with normal controllers only thanks to the fans who did it
it's fucking absurd and even if paper mario the thousand year door is bad there's always the hd texture pack that already exists
>you can play all 3 prime games with normal controllers
Why would I do that, if PrimeHack lets me play with keyboard and mouse?
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because playing with mouse and keyboard is less fun
lol
lmao
>implying the one on the right looks better
shiggy diggy
lava ain't yellow
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>lava ain't yellow
This realism argument again. It's totally irrelevant, the source material was obviously not respected in that anons pic.
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>realism
how can you say that when it's made by the same company with the same design notes
they fucked up something and corrected it a bit over a decade later
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>how can you say that when it's made by the same company
lmao
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>nintendo just doesn't archive shit bruh fr fr all japs be the same like they all rook the same
okay we get it retard you confused konami for other asiatics
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HexaDrive
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what does this have to do with anything? I don't care what some other studio has to do with jack shit
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They made the demake. It was outsourced like 99% of remakes.
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>oursourced
be serious anon everything is outsourced these days
except nintendo has hard limitation and rules on their shit
if they noticed a fuck up they wouldn't even let it through
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You had no idea didn't you? It sucks when you realize Nintendo is dead, it had to happen eventually anon.
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again stop talking crazy anon
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left side looks like its a 4:3 stretch, all buildings and trees are fatter. doubt this is as intended
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>no lighting vs lighting
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cube is 4:3 console, so its more probable that the person taking the pics fucked up on a emulator setting and less of a chance the offical nintendo unaltered ones to the the right are off.
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anon you cannot be serious that you actually tink the right looks better
the clouds look like shit and shadows don't exist
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>BLOOM
It's OK when the remaster does it.
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Grass is too yellow, but the sea and sky look beautiful. An improvement overall.
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You may not like WWHD. And I respect that opinion. But it's a remake with soul. Because you can tell Nintendo was passionate about the graphical updates. It was their first time using hardware that was even capable of proper shaders. So they used the remake to explore what they could do. For them, it was a fun technical experiment. And that to me, is soulful.
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HexaDrive experimented and it looks like shit
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Wrong. You just pulled up a name, without context. Here's context: >The inspiration came when staff converted elements from various games to explore the system's capabilities while planning for Breath of the Wild.[58] The developers experimented with several Zelda games, but were especially struck by how well The Wind Waker translated into high definition.[16][59][60] When the team determined it would take less than a year to remaster the entire game, Aonuma approached Miyamoto about developing it. He faced considerable reluctance from management due to players' mixed response in 2003, but Miyamoto ultimately greenlit development as Nintendo staff had found that opinions of the game had warmed over the years.[16][59] Aonuma served as producer, while Daiki Iwamoto served as director.[16] The soundtrack was updated by Kenta Nagata, Hajime Wakai, Asuka Hayazaki, and Atsuko Asahi. While the game was developed in-house at Nintendo Entertainment Analysis & Development (EAD), high-resolution textures were produced with the help of a few external companies.[61] The entire project took six months to develop.[62]
>soul >just remove cel shading and fuck up the colors
yeah no
Yes.
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>soul >just remove cel shading and fuck up the colors
yeah no
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>same company
George Lucas been fucking with his films for the worse since their release. Same company, even the same people does not guarantee authenticity.
Are you repressing your memories of the Lost Sanctum because of trauma, or did you genuinely enjoy running up and down a mountain 20 times doing fetch quests
>You don't have to do the extra shit.
Most people do a blind first playthrough. They have no way to tell which sidequests are complete shit until it's too late
But I agree with your sentiment. Other than that the remake is better
>Through analysis of thousands of recorded gunfights, the Cleric has determined that the geometric distribution of antagonists in any gun battle is a statistically predictable element. By the rote mastery of this art, your firing efficiency will rise by no less than 120%. The difference of a 63% increase to lethal proficiency makes the master of the gun katas an adversary not to be taken lightly.
MM/OOT3D are okay with fan patches
otherwise I cannot think of one since remakes are creatively bankrupt and make a brand new game or ruin the original either way besides like resident evil 20 years ago
I actually like the original games and you don't. If you did, you wouldn't consider something that changes everything arbitrarily an objective upgrade.
The Ninja Warriors remake was made by the actual original devs like 30 years after their original game and all it did was release them from the restraints of the SNES. It's an upgrade in every conceivable way.
>is actually faithful to the original game, just an inversion of the old map and old story
I kinda liked that, game would have been better if they didn't use the face models as the voice actors because they're fucking retards but all in all berddy good.
Limitation breeds creativity and the ability to brute force a solution with new hardware breeds ham-fisted retards without a creative bone in their body.
Why are modern artists so fucking terrified of hard lighting and contrast? Why does everything have that gross soft light look like it's something out of a daytime soap opera?
fuck blupoint. The fact that normies think they are good also pisses me off. Look at the games with a critical eye for 5 seconds and you see that they dont give a shit about the source material
because you use some retarded unquantifiable metric like 'soul' or 'good/bad writing' to call something good or bad without having to argue why beyond 'it just is ok?'
>cherry picking: the thread
I could just zoom in on any random texture and grab le epic screenshot of any remake looking way better than the original too, if I was retarded
Great, you've managed to demonstrate .0001% of the original games look better. Still waiting to be shown the other 99.9999% looks better or you know, an actual technical and artistic breakdown of why they do look better or worse instead of random pics with a smug caption
Not that guy, but why are the remake's screenshots so washed out. I've played both versions and while the original looks relatively accurate, the remake looked a lot better than what's being shown here. Probably because it's a shitty youtube screenshot
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Both versions do look a bit washed out in these comparisons.
The xbox 360 had a custom gamma curve that wasn't 100% accurate to the sRGBcolor space. Microsoft did this because they thought the slightly more contrasty image looked better. Its easy to see when you compare the same game on PS3 with xbox 360.
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show me one of these 99.9999% that look better
Why did they make all the characters look so retarded in the remake.
there's plenty but they will never since they aren't popular
but most likely that comes to mind is luigi's mansion 1 >but the 3ds
fuck you that's a port
this - it's the same thing with movies. the shit studios should be remastering or remaking are crappy movies from the 70s and 80s that nobody's ever heard of but had a nugget of a good idea and would be moderately entertaining if you put in a rewrite and some modern effects... not the same half a dozen IPs that were successful 30 years ago.
Good games that had a problem or two that could be fixed. Something like Vagrant Story where you're fighting the interface more than enemies, but I'd bet they'd fuck up the visuals as they're great in the context of PS1 3D. You know some artistic savant would have a great time to just forego baked-in lighting on models.
your pic related is actually a really good example of a game that would benefit from a remake or fanmod... it had a lot of good content and ideas, but clearly had to strip a lot of that shit away for the sake of getting the game out on time (features like water rationing, camping, actual tool and weapon crafting mechanics instead of just a combo menu, and more elaborate creature AI that would have made the Abyss feel more organic and alive, etc. all got cut from the final release). basically games that had an interesting idea or novel core mechanic that didn't do enough with it for that same kind of reason.
Empire Earth comes to mind - it was a pretty run of the mill AOE clone except that it covered a HUGE range of ages, from stone to sci-fi, so you could end up with much more unusual and asymmetric encounters than most RTS games, problem was it just didn't push the concept far enough and ended up being just sort of average
>The ZOE M∀RS Remaster is overall fantastic
This has really shitty updated textures, bad remaster. >The FFX Remaster improves a lot of models and textures,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>You know all those bright colors our game had? >Yeah >What if it didn't?
It's like the reverse of those Man of Steel fan edits where they ramped up the color saturation 300% to try and make it feel less dour and depressing
>but the lower frame rate looks better and actually has a heaviness and impact to it
You stole that from a Literal Who's vid. on SotC. Don't pretend like it's your own opinion.
They show the literal hard data they gather as part of testing the games on their videos. You can watch them on mute and still learn something if you're so impressionable you have to take a reviewer's opinions at face value
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They omit hard data.
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Feel free to point out which data they omitted on the video I posted just kidding, I know you're a fanboy with a hateboner so you'd never open the video anyway. fuck off
The Ratchet and Clank PS4 game was weird.
They originally rushed it out as a tie-in to the film's original release of 2015 but then after that got delayed to 2016 they ended up just doing polish work until then since the rest of the team had moved on to another project.
Because the originals were often made with certain limitations and had to use tools and tricks to dance around that to create a certain style or "vibe" to fill in the gaps while the newer versions just miss the point and throw shit on the screen
remakes are always handed to lowest bidder shovelware devs
you can look up the catalogue of any dev doing a remake and just get a list of barbie horse riding games and boardgame ports
if there's one game I'd love a remake of, it's this one
-much better graphics, sound, music, etc
-update all of the dinosaurs to their modern film designs
-make Stegosaurus playable
-add Indominus rex, Indoraptor, Scorpios rex, Nasutoceratops, Sinoceratops, Kentrosaurus, Baryonyx, Carnotaurus, and Tarbosaurus as Jurassic reps, and some other dinosaurs outside the franchise
-add stages based on locations from the World trilogy
It's great, the only downside I could find is that the high framerate causes some jank with the holding mechanic which makes a few time trials slightly more difficult
Looks wise yes. >Stable framerate (30fps) >1080p
Ganeplay-wise the framerate fucks with the stamina meter depletion since it's not properly tied to the framerate, so Wander will get exhausted a lot quicker than normal, making the game a lot more frustrating. The devs purposely left it in despite the complaints because they "didn't want to take the accomplishment away" from players who beat the game with that programming error.
I always hear about the damned stamina bar whenever someone brings up the ps3 version. I played it and passed it without issues. Maybe it was harder? Sure, but not really a game changer. Maybe you get an extra half a second in the original?
Anon you don't understand the new Ganker meta.
If it's new, it's bad.
If there's effort and charm that's warranted, it's "forced".
If you emulate, it's not the same.
You're unlucky enough to not have a CRT and have kept your old consoles, sucks to be you.
If you can't afford rebuilding your old collection of overpriced and outdated hardware, you're a poorfag.
/v/'s like an SJW: It's all a power tripping game to them and only to laugh at you.
Even way back when the remake didn't exist I hated the different logos. I have the GCN versions of all 4 REs on my shelf and you cannot fucking tell at a glance they're the same series even when put next to each other
retards like you are why things suck now
you would rather have boring and consistent and dead design rather than something pops out at you and makes you sure that it's a different game
imagine how many nintendo fans would shit themselves if majora's mask wasn't blatantly a ocarina of time sequel
Yeah dude remember when Majora's Mask had a completely different logo in a completely different font than the previous and next Zelda game?
Oh, it didn't? I bet Ganker whines a fuckton about how soulless the logo is then
Wait, we don't? How weird
>Add shadow to a game that doesn't need shadows >Remove shadows to a game that needs shadows
Why do they always do this?
Is it because the average normie won't notice there is anything different otherwise?
it's a shit game so who cares
yes lower poly models and retarded bloom looks so much better
>Noo, le heckin bloomerino is le bad
yes.
I find it hilarious how much this place shat on the muted colors and heavy bloom and QTEs of the late 00s-mid 10s, and then when games of that era got remade with actual colors, removed QTEs, and less bloom everyone went fucking insane over it.
2023
Yes
It's realistic, retard. The whole point is to recreate the sensation of real life.
I hate you people so much. Always chasing photorealism without understanding the objective of art, recreation of the sensation, not the thing itself.
Team ICO is a master at this but you're too much of a retarded adhd mouthbreather to understand it.
Said it for me
>its realistic
riiiiiight
I wrote "it's".
Yes, it's realistic, as in it tries to reproduce the experience of the thing, rather than the thing itself. Photorealism is dumb and for people without taste, the biggest cancer in the videogame industry.
>The creators' intent means nothing, let's uprez it and farm it out to retards, that will make everything better
Fuck off
right: soul
left: soulless
Made by people who couldn't give half an ass about someone else's project.
anons like
will say bottom looks better.
It's not a pug, it's supposed to be a bat, whoever made this picture is a retard, and you are too for reposting it.
>whoever made this picture is a retard
but that's exactly what happens when a game gets a remaster
Rounding out the donut would've been a really good joke if the rest of the GTA:SA remake had been perfect
There was actually an opportunity for a great joke here. I guess the pajeets didn't get it
I didn't know Bluepoint started doing movies.
Someone's passion project where limitations were creatively worked around vs. someone else making utilitarian upgrades for money.
What is this? Was this the inspiration for the jailer beasts in One Piece?
Also, how come when I click on Choose File and hit a letter key, it doesn't go to the files that start with that letter? It looks like it's bouncing around randomly. Is this a Ganker bug?
have a nice day ZOOMER RETARD
I've been posting here 17 years and have never had this happen before.
One Piece is full of Disney inspirations and your picture looked like weapon-wielding animal prison guards, which is a little different than the minotaur legend.
Impel Down is inspired on the Divine Comedy. The minotaur appears in the Divine Comedy. Also it always was a beast meant to keep people from escaping a huge underground complex. And even though it didn't wield weapons in the myth, it often is depicted wielding weapons in pop media.
Now I'm sure Oda did watch the sleeping beauty because who the fuck hasn't, but it's not like there isn't a gazillion other media with soldier humanoid animals.
They look like they're in a dungeon and wearing armor, something like a prison guard. I'm not aware of many stories with something like that. That's why I brought it up. I genuinely don't recognize where they're from, that's why I asked. Nothing is inspired by a single thing. Imagine saying the orcs couldn't be inspired by Mongoloid invaders because Lord of the Rings is clearly inspired by Beowulf - which means it can't also be inspired by European history, Christianity or Norse mythology. Obviously, that's just too much, right?
>sleeping beauty
Yeah, I watched that when I was 5 and don't remember them. Sorry, I guess.
>Was this the inspiration for the jailer beasts in One Piece?
Yes anon, the jailer beasts, one of which is literally called the minotaur and is an actual minotaur, were inspired by a Disney movie
>onepiece fag when he hasn't talked about one piece in a random thread in over 5 minutes
The joke is that they are just a random animal with the word -taur at the end of it. They get stomped in less than a minute.
needs more petty needless changes like the design of shield being different for no reason
Spyro moment
bottom has more realistic lighting and better textures. Overall an improvement.
Whenever the original team isn't involved with the port, it will usually be inferior in some way artistically.
I heckin love remasters!
what remaster is this?
I forgot the name, but it's a very famous visual novel about lesbians in a small town.
Life is Strange I think. And anyone who's a fan will tell you to play the original.
why is the camera barfing all over the place?
Motion sickness
Shit remaster for a shit game it fits
could have posted the first frame and it would be a better comparision
the demastered face looks so awful
True the face is worse. It appears they tried to match the in-game face with the promotional face from the cover. But the cover art face always felt like it was off. The face everyone fell in love with was the in-game one.
>remastering stylized graphics
>people think the right looks better unironically
what the fuck happened to people
devs needed to use creativity to circumvent hardware limitations. now it's not needed anymore because realism
the second image has nothing to do remotely with hardware limitations
it's blatant fuck you to artists who worked on the original
lol no, they need to use graphical effects from the latest api. you can't replicate ps2 effects without making it look like shit in high fidelity.
>lol no, they need to use graphical effects from the latest api. you can't replicate ps2 effects without making it look like shit in high fidelity.
Actual drooling retard take.
drooling retards post replies with no arguments
>you just can't remake graphical effects that were done on ps2 on modern hardware
braindead drones be like I want my games to look worse and I don't care as long as there's 3 more pixels
Rage 1 had incredible skyboxes. That was the first time I looked at the horizon landscape and thought "Wow, that could be a painting."
Rage was a terrible game but the graphics were fantastic- if you could ignore the texture pop in.
HAHAH WTF
I think that's the original vs sequel.
retards be like
but this is higher resolution who cares if everyone looks like stretch armstrongs
why is his palm lighter in the remake
People are hyped for GTA 6 when they allowed this abomination to be released.
a third party made the remaster, not the main rockstar staff.
That's just voodoo magic.
there's not much difference these days
don't pretend the AAA teams aren't full of the same worthless idiots
>third party made the remaster
still, rockstar had no problems with shipping this atrocity
Does it even have textures or is it all materials?
It has textures obviously. They are just shitty MS paint tier textures unlike original.
Bluepoint committed criminal acts with that remake
the bloom makes no sense and its ugly
yea the brown shit filter is much better.
>the holy light from behind an altar in an ancient temple where an eldritch being lives doesnt make sense
are you trolling or genuinely retarded?
It's a mystical light.
Bloom is pure soul and kino, all media should use it as much as possible.
cringe opinion
based opinion
I hate turning off bloom on dolphin because I actually want to play in HD
king take
true and based
We're not going back to xbox 360 piss filter for late millennial nostalgia
have a nice day
>nostalgia
Trying those buzzwords again, eh child?
Are you really saying the PS2 looks better? Bitch is just fucking bloom , you can't see shit
you weren't meant to see shit you dumbass
you are complaining about what is essentially lighting
Bloom is not inherently good or bad. It's all in how you use it. SotC used bloom in a smart way. Which completely flew over the heads of the remake guys.
>ancient fucking temple
>all the rocks have sharp edges
go outside and visit some real ancient temples you retard, the people knew what they were doing even thousands of years ago
Yeah that's why no ancient temple looks like a messed up jenga tower.
zoomers actually can't tell that this is the one case where bloom was used with a purpose in mind and they'll never find out because old game=bad
Same with MGS3.
>IT'S GREEN!!!!
It's a fucking rainforest. These people would shit their pants watching Apocalypse Now.
PS4 obviously looks better than PS2 version. Why do retards suddenly pretend bloom doesn't look like shit when it comes to this game? They don't do this for any other game.
>our artistic contribution is uhhhhhhhhhhhh
>......square pillars instead of round
Why are they like this? You cant convince me they aren't deliberately taking the piss out of the OG fans
Now everyone is defending bloom? You contrarian retards are so pathetic.
i cannot even begin to comprehend how something like this can happen
hell i remember some people claiming the games looked good before release, they didnt, they looked like shit from the moment the remasters were revealed
My guess is because they are made in the same handful of engines all modern games are created with, so it comes off as some fanmade texture pack.
Sometimes it's just difference in middleware used. Or new engine version so shit like lighting gets fucked up.
Arkham City has a remaster?
'Return to Arkham' a duology of Asylum and City remasters.
Pioneers doing things that were not streamlined yet, making and bending rules as they want because they loved the medium, while also competing with teams that were trying to do the same, but better.
Wasn’t the original prerendered and the remaster in engine?
no
>Why do they always look worse?
Often not created by the original team or have the key creative person of the original involved
Assets are often just sent to a third party to improve textures and models individually, but never viewed in scene together
Often "improved" but with no artistic merit or completely misunderstands the original vision
I'm torn.
They fucked drained all the sovl out of him holy shit
>determined youth
>depressed femboy
>angsty teenager
>IMA ABOUT TO TROON OUT
kek
they didn't even try with the 4th
I thank god emulation and hd texture packs exist
low features are fine if you're low poly
when you have that much detail on like hair and cloth and shit and still have a low-feature face it looks uncanny
it's the same reason advent children looked more uncanny than spirits within despite having more detailed models
What about Star ocean 2 r, THPS1+2, Tales of Hearts R, Yakuza Kiwami or REmake 2?
>crickets
that's the same game on a different system
it was remade
It's a goddamn shame stencil shadows died because of ownership bullshit.
how did oldschool devs have so much talent?
because they were constantly working with new technology so they always had to find creative ways to overcome their problems. and everyone else making games were also on the same page so everyone was just experimenting, making shit on their own.
nowadays, people just look at each others homework and copy it based on whatever is popular. sure, i guess you can argue that people were like that back then as well. but i feel like people still took more creative chances.
believe it or not, limitations breed creativity
>Implying that's all that's required
If you play both versions back to back then you'll notice. I recall Wander getting exhausted even getting to the top of the 2nd Colossus which never happened on PS2. You can't even do some of the Time Attacks without it being a clutch each time. It's really not enjoyable. There's just no defending this unintended artificial spike in difficulty.
They had to. Making anything was a painful and technically in depth process.
so the technical challenge essentially acted as a filter.
DS remaster is very bad
the eyes in the legendary edition are horrifying
Why is Shepard trying to hold it in?
There are exceptions. Nier Replicant I think is better pretty much all around, from graphical fidelity to the shift in art direction to look a bit more like Automata. The ZOE M∀RS Remaster is overall fantastic, have very few complaints. The FFX Remaster improves a lot of models and textures, but I'll admit some of the faces look off.
But yeah, there's almost always stuff lost in translation for any Remake or Remaster.
Okay, so he didn't look deeply surprised all the time in the original? Wonder how they fucked that up.
>The ZOE M∀RS Remaster is overall fantastic
This has really shitty updated textures, bad remaster.
>The FFX Remaster improves a lot of models and textures,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Enter zoomer workforce
these are literally all made by millenials
Those arms look like off brand legos.
Sixth gen vs. modern gen
>not only lost his fun style but also became objectively worse from a basic technical standpoint
Grim.
rooks the same to me
>Why do they always look worse?
Sometimes they look better. Sometimes.
The trees aren't moving...
it's still moving it's just more subtle
It is literally not moving at all. DF made that clip just to show that.
Fake pic
Nope. Right is emulated.
PC version should have both the emulated hd mod and the remade game on the switch so you can make any choice you want.
The switch version looks pretty aswell.
add more grass but remove tree animations. Why?
I swear people who say Definitive Edition is bad are uber contrarians
jesus christ on a corndog cross
Remasters that look objectively better than the originals(increased resolution aside)
- Okami, especially with mods to remove blur effects
- Valkyria Chronicles but only the PC version
- Resonance of Fate I think
- FF12 but only on PC with mods
- Dragons Dogma on PC
- GTA V
- Tactics Ogre maybe?
- Halo remaster since it has the swap function?
- Diablo 2 remaster since it also has that swap function?
I can't think of anything else but I do want to mention Nier Replicant, it's not objectively better since it does mess with the art style but it is a fantastic remake. Gravity Rush is another one in the same boat, it kinda looks worse than what you'd want but it still looks good and runs at 60fps.
No they just like lighting. DE has some models that look better but some that look worse. The animations and tity physics as well as the lighting are almost always worse. It's overall worse looking than the original game especially emulated.
I dunno about SS but WW fucks up the colors and lighting and TP fucks up textures and lighting. They are not the same games.
you forgot katamari remasters otherwise I have to disagree
they're good enough and look objectively better than playing gamecube editions with hd texture pack
Yeah I don't know about every remaster, I probably missed several.
Now watch the DF tech video and lose all respect you might have had for that publication. What a bunch of fucking shills.
>- Dragons Dogma on PC
DD on PC is the ONLY way I'd actually recommend it to be played, but it's not a remaster so much as a clearly superior port.
It's a remaster since they updated textures and other graphics.
>- Okami, especially with mods to remove blur effects
Wii version was already too sharp and by removing fog together with it, you lose the look of old painting.
I wouldn't mind different take of newer releases, but they didn't bother to increase LoD enough.
Wii is a different branch entirely. PS2, HD and Wii all do things a bit differently.
How does the left look better than the right here? You can disable blur or whatever, the game is super customizable.
>GTA V
Multiplayer sure, but the singleplayer not so much.
Lighting is off in pretty much all cutscenes on next gen and pc.
Why would an office be that dark like that? If anything the right has lighting ON
>- Tactics Ogre maybe?
Are you fucking retarded? The Tactics Ogre remake was good mechanically and they did an amazing job with the soundtrack, but the visuals were completely fucked up and it looks like they just ran the game through 2x supereagle and called it a day.
they updated the ui stuff didn't they
It just depends on whether one values the characters or the world more.
I was just spoiled by the Ultimate Edition (modded PC).
The original looks strange, but the remaster is just uninspired boring anime.
Xeno was always anime
This is the one good remaster though
You're retarded if you think wiinoblade looks better
The switch version is significantly better
The remaster of Xenoblade introduced some pretty good quality of life features- as well as dual audio.
But it does look worse which is what the thread is about.
>dual audio
the original already had that
The QoL stuff is nice yeah, deleveling especially. Just wish the environments didn't take a hit.
Also the Wii version had dual audio.
They mistake art style choices for hardware limitations
Maybe I'm schizo but i'm 100% sure that they changed it to avoid le raysizm
Nah that was for other stuff like the NPCs
They don't look like much like pocket monsters anymore
>SOUL vs SOULLESS
Why do they have the most boring poses possible
why work hard to make it look good when people buy it regardless of quality?
They look as boring as the games
You shitlords have no idea what a bad remaster is. Silent Hill HD Collection went so much beyond just the visuals, but fucking up FOG in Silent Hill is the easiest thing to mock. You see level edges you were clearly not intended to.
Is right the enhanced edition?
They're both from the remaster, just pre and post patch after everyone had a meltdown.
Fucking up fog is rather common as almost nobody wants to bother to recreate PS2 posprocessing magic. It is weird they didnt bother to expand 'world' textures though.
>Infinite rope
>Not posting the most egregious change
SotC PS2 is one of the VERY FEW examples that used brown filter and bloom in a good way, still the most KINO way to experience that game.
different artists? newer technology allows for higher fidelity but gives artists less control? newer technology looks "better" with less effort, thus artists have less freedom to tinker with it because the business people don't give a shit since it already looks "good enough"? older technology hides flaws? older technology is more limited and limitations drive creativity?
BIG fucking cope there.
prebaked lighting vs real time lighting
you can make realtime lighting look as good, but why bother, the point of a remaster is to ship out a turd with no effort in the first place
Max Payne remake will be the bomb.
Even with the best intentions you end up with shit like cropped cutscenes or cut content like silly mini games. It's still not a complete game like the original was for entirely arbitrary reasons.
>entirely arbitrary reasons
Sometimes it's legal bullshit.
Never let Americans "remaster" your game.
These aren't done by Americans.
All the more proof non-Americans are trash at doing anything.
Because old good new bad israelites corrupting everything liberals trannies pedophiles communists game companies hate players etc etc.
Fuck you they are both CUTE and would HUG.
At a glance Twin Snakes looks perfectly fine. It's the overly choreographed cutscenes that kill it.
Same here, I see this game as if it was Otacon's version of the story
i was like damn right looks way better thank god i scrolled down
not the heckin soullerinooo
The problem with TTS is not the graphics, its the OST, the cutscenes and the engine being too advanced for a very primal game that was MGS1.
Nah, the graphics do look like shit, especially the character models.
Twin Snakes was good and I am tired of pretending it wasn't
Tried to unfuck it.
It's not fixed but a step in the right direction. Twin Snakes is too clean. Shadow Moses is a gritty place, like a patch of rust on a shining piece of metal. Twin Snakes is only the shine.
I honestly like how DX looks even if it could use some more contrast
i actually really liked DX, but i hated how they ruined the box art and made it all happy-cutesy.
even though the game itself might be kind of ugly, i still overall really liked the style and how they tried to make it imitate the watercolour art pieces, if they'd been given a bigger budget it probably would've been fucking beautiful.
Has there ever been a single remaster that was an objective improvement over the original?
I used to think REmake, but then someone pointed out that it was colorless and sluggish.
Twilight princess and skyward sword and windwaker[more bloom} are literally the same games but in HD
they're all improvements unless you are extremely autistic
Windwaker's cellshading got fucked with too much, though.
lol
lmao
Nope. Every single remake and remaster has shat all over the original because the devs hate old material. Look at the Spyro and Crash remasters for the best examples.
>Every single remake and remaster has shat all over the original because the devs hate old material.
Wrong.
>pic unrelated
Only if you are a contrarian. The remake is a better game in every way.
Pic unrelated
Metroid prime remastered
Zero mission
Samus returns
Link's awakening
Superstar ultra
Unironically all tendie remakes but what can i say nintendo does good remasters
>zero mission
>samus returns
no
>Link's awakening
have a nice day
>but what can i say nintendo does good remasters
No, they don't.
All trash, all shit on the originals, all too easy, all worthless.
>Metroid prime remastered
>objective improvement
This really drives how much harder it is to be a disingenuous clown when posting actual gameplay clips compared to screenshots like OP. Everything in this clip but the missing dynamic lighting on the projectile looks way, way better on the right
>it looks better except for the thing that looks worse, which the webm was made to demonstrate
Wow anon, you must be a genius or something.
Your post implied the remake was not an objective improvement. Showing a single thing that is worse doesn't mean the remake is not an objective improvement. Or would you say a burnt pizza is objectively better than a well cooked one because it has a single more pepperoni on it?
>Your post implied the remake was not an objective improvement.
Yes, that is correct. An objective improvement would not downgrade things from the original. The remake removed the beam lighting and fucked up various environmental designs, so it is not an objective improvement, it is at best a subjective one.
There's no such thing as an objective improvement then. Even if nothing was missing and everything was technically improved you could still argue you liked the atmosphere better when the graphics were technically worse.
Doesn't change the fact that 99% of the both the general population AND professionals will agree on which version is better.
Back to screenshots eh? Very smart
From shit to shit.
congrats you found a spot where they didn't butcher it
the HUD still looks worse and gives away it's sterile, passionless nature
right is the demake
that's what I said yes
>antiremake fags can't even agree which picture looks worse on their own propaganda
You're killing me guys. You cannot make this shit up
>the HUD still looks worse and gives away it's sterile, passionless nature
I thought this picture was a joke.
>Things are missing and other things were fucked up, so that means that if everything was perfect it'd still be bad!
>This one thing not in the Remaster makes it obsolete
Next you'll use the mirror argument like an NPC.
>Original
Walking down the corridor and then you trip because some retard thought to put a hole in there
>Remaster
Walk down the corridor normally because that's how a floor is supposed to be
>space pirates don't design their ships according to human health & safety standards
>looks way, way better on the right
It shows one version after the other. What right are you talking about, retard?
>NOT THE HECKIN BEAM LIGHTING NOOOO
Stop being disingenuous you retarded homosexual
the remake looks worse in every other way
it looks like you given the game to some random oursource company
prime hack is the only way to enjoy these games today
>playing only one game that doesnt even look good
>M-uh blocky polygons!
>Muh SOVL
Kill Zoomers.
you are either a blind monkey or you are a genuine shit eating gremlin
one of these looks like someone hired that man at nintendo
Not an argument. The hard edges of the polygons looked bad then as it does now. You're just nostalgia blind.
>it's too distinctive and unique, it needs to be just like everything else!
>it's too distinctive and unique
It isn't in the slightest.
To blind fetuses like you.
People with eyes can see that top looks like shit.
Only children do, like how they think any movie that isn't stuffed with CGI is "bad".
No amount of coping or denial will make top not a generic jungle nor make it not look like shit.
I'll take hard edge polygons over that outsourced rubbery unreal look.
Yet you're here bitching like a hole instead of playing it. I'm glad your kind is being left behind.
I'm glad you missed out on everything good.
What an overdramatic response when emulation exists.
not the same
Concession accepted. Have fun relying on indieshit for your SOVL jaggies craving.
>Have fun relying on indieshit for your SOVL jaggies craving.
Enjoy your outsourced slop zoomer.
>Enjoy playing vidya
I will, naggerhomosexual. "Enjoy" shitposting instead of playing games.
Your trough is being filled with demakes zoomer! eat it up piggy!
>nostalgia blind
are you a fan of sonic frontiers by chance?
top is better
bottom still looks worse, get over yourself
Top looks like shit. Anyone that disagrees is a contrarian.
Good job, it went from a distinct recognizable unique environment to a generic boring unrecognizable mess.
>distinct recognizable unique environment
lmfao
I look at the top image, I instantly know it's Metroid Prime. I look at the bottom image, I see a shitty Unity landscape that could be from any game.
>I look at the top image, I instantly know it's Metroid Prime because it looks like shit.
Way to backhand the game you cherish.
>it looks like shit because it's not ultra-realistic and overdesigned!
Children these days.
>I look at the top image, I instantly know it's Metroid Prime.
Yeah, and your mom can pick you out of a crowd, doesn't change the fact that you look just like any other mongoloid homosexual.
bottom looks like the "I remade this game in UE5" youtube videos.
this hurts so bad to watch, do they even realize how old the gamecube is, how does it have better lighting, there is no way to justify this, how do people buy this slop and not feel ashamed of themselves, aaaaaaAAAaaaaa
anon most people are so genuinely stupid they would rather buy a remaster/remake of a game that has nothing wrong with it even with fan made hacks that make it playable on modern controllers
you can play all 3 prime games with normal controllers only thanks to the fans who did it
it's fucking absurd and even if paper mario the thousand year door is bad there's always the hd texture pack that already exists
>you can play all 3 prime games with normal controllers
Why would I do that, if PrimeHack lets me play with keyboard and mouse?
because playing with mouse and keyboard is less fun
>implying the one on the right looks better
shiggy diggy
lava ain't yellow
>lava ain't yellow
This realism argument again. It's totally irrelevant, the source material was obviously not respected in that anons pic.
>realism
how can you say that when it's made by the same company with the same design notes
they fucked up something and corrected it a bit over a decade later
>how can you say that when it's made by the same company
lmao
>nintendo just doesn't archive shit bruh fr fr all japs be the same like they all rook the same
okay we get it retard you confused konami for other asiatics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HexaDrive
what does this have to do with anything? I don't care what some other studio has to do with jack shit
They made the demake. It was outsourced like 99% of remakes.
>oursourced
be serious anon everything is outsourced these days
except nintendo has hard limitation and rules on their shit
if they noticed a fuck up they wouldn't even let it through
You had no idea didn't you? It sucks when you realize Nintendo is dead, it had to happen eventually anon.
again stop talking crazy anon
left side looks like its a 4:3 stretch, all buildings and trees are fatter. doubt this is as intended
>no lighting vs lighting
cube is 4:3 console, so its more probable that the person taking the pics fucked up on a emulator setting and less of a chance the offical nintendo unaltered ones to the the right are off.
anon you cannot be serious that you actually tink the right looks better
the clouds look like shit and shadows don't exist
>BLOOM
It's OK when the remaster does it.
Grass is too yellow, but the sea and sky look beautiful. An improvement overall.
You may not like WWHD. And I respect that opinion. But it's a remake with soul. Because you can tell Nintendo was passionate about the graphical updates. It was their first time using hardware that was even capable of proper shaders. So they used the remake to explore what they could do. For them, it was a fun technical experiment. And that to me, is soulful.
HexaDrive experimented and it looks like shit
Wrong. You just pulled up a name, without context. Here's context:
>The inspiration came when staff converted elements from various games to explore the system's capabilities while planning for Breath of the Wild.[58] The developers experimented with several Zelda games, but were especially struck by how well The Wind Waker translated into high definition.[16][59][60] When the team determined it would take less than a year to remaster the entire game, Aonuma approached Miyamoto about developing it. He faced considerable reluctance from management due to players' mixed response in 2003, but Miyamoto ultimately greenlit development as Nintendo staff had found that opinions of the game had warmed over the years.[16][59] Aonuma served as producer, while Daiki Iwamoto served as director.[16] The soundtrack was updated by Kenta Nagata, Hajime Wakai, Asuka Hayazaki, and Atsuko Asahi. While the game was developed in-house at Nintendo Entertainment Analysis & Development (EAD), high-resolution textures were produced with the help of a few external companies.[61] The entire project took six months to develop.[62]
Yes.
>soul
>just remove cel shading and fuck up the colors
yeah no
>same company
George Lucas been fucking with his films for the worse since their release. Same company, even the same people does not guarantee authenticity.
>Has there ever been a single remaster that was an objective improvement over the original?
StarCraft Brood War remake is good.
Chrono Trigger on DS
Are you repressing your memories of the Lost Sanctum because of trauma, or did you genuinely enjoy running up and down a mountain 20 times doing fetch quests
Better translation. You don't have to do the extra shit.
>You don't have to do the extra shit.
Most people do a blind first playthrough. They have no way to tell which sidequests are complete shit until it's too late
But I agree with your sentiment. Other than that the remake is better
Most people playing it blind will probably pick SNES. If they pick DS they did some research most likely.
Pokemon heartgold & Soulsilver
over 10 years of technological progress
You KNOW players today would be bitching too much sand obscuring vision. It's surreal how much more tense the original looks.
What the fuck this has to be fake.
Every single homosexual in the bluepoint with at least some semblance of honor would kill himself after seeing this
bluepoint always has been dogshit
bluepoint, masters of their craft
>Through analysis of thousands of recorded gunfights, the Cleric has determined that the geometric distribution of antagonists in any gun battle is a statistically predictable element. By the rote mastery of this art, your firing efficiency will rise by no less than 120%. The difference of a 63% increase to lethal proficiency makes the master of the gun katas an adversary not to be taken lightly.
Mr Beanification
Is there a single remakes you fags actually like?
AoE2 DE
Ace Combat 4 was a pretty good remake of Ace Combat 2. Bizarre how they played it in reverse though.
zero mission 🙂
Star Ocean 2 just got a remake and everyone is loving it. Super Mario RPG is also looking good
Metroid 2 (3DS)
Star Fox 64 as a remake of Star Fox
The Command and Conquer and Turok remasters are great.
I'm waiting for Turok 3 remaster. For reasons.
For me, it's Evolution. I know it's shit, but I still like it.
me too anon
Demon Souls because it actually improved everything overall
>Demon Souls remake
lol, no
combat is a lot better on the remake
It's exactly the same down to the frame data of the weapons
Right looks better
Remember when homosexual who diablised Flamelurker got salty when he was ordered to refine it because even normies were dissatisfied with it
Why won't you just die?
MM/OOT3D are okay with fan patches
otherwise I cannot think of one since remakes are creatively bankrupt and make a brand new game or ruin the original either way besides like resident evil 20 years ago
no they aren't
>no they aren't
who makes you the objective opinion on anything
I actually like the original games and you don't. If you did, you wouldn't consider something that changes everything arbitrarily an objective upgrade.
so you're a retard huh?
No I just like good video games unlike you zoomer tendies.
Destroy All Humans.
The Ninja Warriors remake was made by the actual original devs like 30 years after their original game and all it did was release them from the restraints of the SNES. It's an upgrade in every conceivable way.
>The Ninja Warriors remake
Mostly cool, but one thing that annoys me about it is the way explosions and fire glow, it feels out of place.
Metroid Zero Mission
RE2MAKE
>is actually faithful to the original game, just an inversion of the old map and old story
I kinda liked that, game would have been better if they didn't use the face models as the voice actors because they're fucking retards but all in all berddy good.
re4 remake deprecated the original re4 for me
System Shock, it looks good and is playable.
Nope
You're asking that as if we should like remakes for the sake of it.
romancing saga ps2 remake is god tier
Romancing SaGa Minstrel Song.
Starcraft Remastered
If fan-made remakes count, Marathon: Resurrection.
All of the metroid remakes
All of the resident evil remakes
post the whole thing
so the right is some kinda anime adaptation, right?
nah
That's not the same game.
Limitation breeds creativity and the ability to brute force a solution with new hardware breeds ham-fisted retards without a creative bone in their body.
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU CHERRYPICK!
Why are modern artists so fucking terrified of hard lighting and contrast? Why does everything have that gross soft light look like it's something out of a daytime soap opera?
because dithering died
/a/ says anime looks cheap and ugly without the light effects
Name of the game?
YU-NO
fuck blupoint. The fact that normies think they are good also pisses me off. Look at the games with a critical eye for 5 seconds and you see that they dont give a shit about the source material
Absolute atmospheric butchering.
ITT: ITS BAD CAUSE......ITS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT!
nostalgia is a mental illness
Why did they turn him into gorilla?
Evolution
The issue there is that they made Nicole look like the VA who replaced the original in 2 after she died and only showed up as a market hallucination.
Who the fuck even is Bluepoint? Isn't it a bit presumptuous for some random Western studio to remake these Japanese classics like they know better?
because you use some retarded unquantifiable metric like 'soul' or 'good/bad writing' to call something good or bad without having to argue why beyond 'it just is ok?'
>Literally no argument
Off yourself please.
>argument to a subjective feeling
lmao retard
baseless arguments come with baseless insults
have a nice day tranny
Why do remakes always fuck up deliberate color grading from the original? Are they blind or stupid or both?
>Are they blind or stupid or both?
yes
Changing the color is a easy way to make something look different. It has to look different or people will think they did nothing at all.
What's the top image from?
Silent Hill HD Collection
?t=492
>ps4
there was no artistic intent in the first place
nothing was lost
Yeah art only existed in my childhood games, thanks for agreeing its only nostalgia!
trolling outside of /b/
>trolling is when you point out my retardation
Seethe
ITT
wtf they changed his pose, completely changes the expression.
If you show me any game that looks like the right, I will kill myself live on twitch.
Metroid zero mission improves everything about the original yet retards ITT think it's bad
Honestly, that remaster looks better. Excess of Bloom was a trash phase in the 2000s, regardless of the game.
>Honestly, that remaster looks better.
No it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Invention something doesn't mean it can't be overused, as it shows in parts with SotC.
>Invention something doesn't mean it can't be overused, as it shows in parts with SotC.
Good morning sirs.
>literally a screenshot of the game on pcsx2 with the infamous bloom glitch
You should understand that Team Ico literally invented bloom with Ico, they are masters of their craft.
oh comeon
we all know the hobbit game was shit
stop kicking the dead horse
>cherry picking: the thread
I could just zoom in on any random texture and grab le epic screenshot of any remake looking way better than the original too, if I was retarded
>cherry picking: the thread
thread is littered with pics were original is vastly superior
Great, you've managed to demonstrate .0001% of the original games look better. Still waiting to be shown the other 99.9999% looks better or you know, an actual technical and artistic breakdown of why they do look better or worse instead of random pics with a smug caption
show me one of these 99.9999% that look better
Just zoom in on any of the armor's textures in that same screenshot. Bam, remake looks better. Holy shit, it's so easy to be a disingenuous cunt huh
zoomer in won't help you
Not that guy, but why are the remake's screenshots so washed out. I've played both versions and while the original looks relatively accurate, the remake looked a lot better than what's being shown here. Probably because it's a shitty youtube screenshot
Both versions do look a bit washed out in these comparisons.
The xbox 360 had a custom gamma curve that wasn't 100% accurate to the sRGBcolor space. Microsoft did this because they thought the slightly more contrasty image looked better. Its easy to see when you compare the same game on PS3 with xbox 360.
Why did they make all the characters look so retarded in the remake.
>He says while willfully ignoring everything else
Reversing the question - what are games that *could* benefit from a remaster?
there's plenty but they will never since they aren't popular
but most likely that comes to mind is luigi's mansion 1
>but the 3ds
fuck you that's a port
>luigi's mansion
pity, that'd be interesting to see
Any bad game with good ideas. But game studios are too cowardly so they will always remaster good and cult games
this - it's the same thing with movies. the shit studios should be remastering or remaking are crappy movies from the 70s and 80s that nobody's ever heard of but had a nugget of a good idea and would be moderately entertaining if you put in a rewrite and some modern effects... not the same half a dozen IPs that were successful 30 years ago.
Good games that had a problem or two that could be fixed. Something like Vagrant Story where you're fighting the interface more than enemies, but I'd bet they'd fuck up the visuals as they're great in the context of PS1 3D. You know some artistic savant would have a great time to just forego baked-in lighting on models.
Any Pokemon game from Swsh onwards
Also BotW and TotK
I want the oracle games in link's awakening remake style
>B-but the funko
Fuck you i liked it
None.
your pic related is actually a really good example of a game that would benefit from a remake or fanmod... it had a lot of good content and ideas, but clearly had to strip a lot of that shit away for the sake of getting the game out on time (features like water rationing, camping, actual tool and weapon crafting mechanics instead of just a combo menu, and more elaborate creature AI that would have made the Abyss feel more organic and alive, etc. all got cut from the final release). basically games that had an interesting idea or novel core mechanic that didn't do enough with it for that same kind of reason.
Empire Earth comes to mind - it was a pretty run of the mill AOE clone except that it covered a HUGE range of ages, from stone to sci-fi, so you could end up with much more unusual and asymmetric encounters than most RTS games, problem was it just didn't push the concept far enough and ended up being just sort of average
>You know all those bright colors our game had?
>Yeah
>What if it didn't?
It's like the reverse of those Man of Steel fan edits where they ramped up the color saturation 300% to try and make it feel less dour and depressing
I don't understand why Square Enix treats Saga with so much more dignity than Final Fantasy, but I'm thankful for it.
original creator is involved, that's why
What kind of sourcery made this game possible on the PS2
it ran at 15fps
fags will say the left is better because the frame rate but the lower frame rate looks better and actually has a heaviness and impact to it
>but the lower frame rate looks better and actually has a heaviness and impact to it
You stole that from a Literal Who's vid. on SotC. Don't pretend like it's your own opinion.
>zoomer is obsessed with ecelebs and thinks opinions don't exist outside of them
unironically kill your egoraptor watching fag self
>Zoomer acts as though he has a profound opinion that's his own
>says the zoomer retard who think hes profound by being marvel quirky
>Projection
>Calls others "Zoomers" when he can't punctuate properly
KEK
>because the frame rate
It's better because it looks more alive
>the lower frame rate looks better
lmao
like it or not that's where the money is at
That doesn't answer my question: We're suddenly pretending to give a shit when it happens to AAA Western garbage now?
zoomers burst into flames when playing videogames made before the year 2013
how's the MGS collection on the switch?
It's shit. MGS2 and MGS3 run at 30 fps in the year of our lord 2023. Even a laptop with integrated graphics can do better
are they decent aside from that? I'm just trying to enjoy them on the go and I don't have a steam deck
yeah if it's your only option I think they're serviceable. DF has a tech review where they go over the good and the bad
DF doesn't give a fuck about unbiased honest reviews
They show the literal hard data they gather as part of testing the games on their videos. You can watch them on mute and still learn something if you're so impressionable you have to take a reviewer's opinions at face value
They omit hard data.
Feel free to point out which data they omitted on the video I posted
just kidding, I know you're a fanboy with a hateboner so you'd never open the video anyway. fuck off
thanks for the info
I think it has something to do with the current workforce in the games industry
The Ratchet and Clank PS4 game was weird.
They originally rushed it out as a tie-in to the film's original release of 2015 but then after that got delayed to 2016 they ended up just doing polish work until then since the rest of the team had moved on to another project.
my fucking god, even putting aside the lack of expressive animation, is it really too difficult to just have some slightly more dynamic camera angles?
how did no one at bluepoint realize how retarded they made the wanderer look?
lifeless eyes... dead eyes, like a doll's eyes
Out of all the games to choose for a bait post....you chose the one everyone loves?
Because the originals were often made with certain limitations and had to use tools and tricks to dance around that to create a certain style or "vibe" to fill in the gaps while the newer versions just miss the point and throw shit on the screen
remakes are always handed to lowest bidder shovelware devs
you can look up the catalogue of any dev doing a remake and just get a list of barbie horse riding games and boardgame ports
that one is just sad.
Why did they make gnolls cute?
furry pandering, unironically
>the fucking paw icon on his glove
studios bill PER CHANGE made to the game. Same with translations, they make more money the more they change shit around
if there's one game I'd love a remake of, it's this one
-much better graphics, sound, music, etc
-update all of the dinosaurs to their modern film designs
-make Stegosaurus playable
-add Indominus rex, Indoraptor, Scorpios rex, Nasutoceratops, Sinoceratops, Kentrosaurus, Baryonyx, Carnotaurus, and Tarbosaurus as Jurassic reps, and some other dinosaurs outside the franchise
-add stages based on locations from the World trilogy
there's a reason the original flopped 🙂
Is the ps3 version any good?
It's great, the only downside I could find is that the high framerate causes some jank with the holding mechanic which makes a few time trials slightly more difficult
Looks wise yes.
>Stable framerate (30fps)
>1080p
Ganeplay-wise the framerate fucks with the stamina meter depletion since it's not properly tied to the framerate, so Wander will get exhausted a lot quicker than normal, making the game a lot more frustrating. The devs purposely left it in despite the complaints because they "didn't want to take the accomplishment away" from players who beat the game with that programming error.
I always hear about the damned stamina bar whenever someone brings up the ps3 version. I played it and passed it without issues. Maybe it was harder? Sure, but not really a game changer. Maybe you get an extra half a second in the original?
Here's a remake that i thought was good
overdesigned too busy piece of garbage
Okay, what about this?
It's new, therefore it's LE BAD
boring
Anon you don't understand the new Ganker meta.
If it's new, it's bad.
If there's effort and charm that's warranted, it's "forced".
If you emulate, it's not the same.
You're unlucky enough to not have a CRT and have kept your old consoles, sucks to be you.
If you can't afford rebuilding your old collection of overpriced and outdated hardware, you're a poorfag.
/v/'s like an SJW: It's all a power tripping game to them and only to laugh at you.
>RESIDENT EVIL 2
>RESIDENT EVIL 3 nEmESiS
>4resident evil
Even way back when the remake didn't exist I hated the different logos. I have the GCN versions of all 4 REs on my shelf and you cannot fucking tell at a glance they're the same series even when put next to each other
hey now you can tell they are all in the same franchise!!! this is great!! upvotes
What purpose do you think logos serve exactly? Do you have a poster in your room with just logos on it to admire the delicate calligraphy or what?
Should add final fantasy to the right cause they even use it on that
At least it's a nice classy font.
Triangle Strategy and Various Daylife are some of the worst titles you could come up with
retards like you are why things suck now
you would rather have boring and consistent and dead design rather than something pops out at you and makes you sure that it's a different game
imagine how many nintendo fans would shit themselves if majora's mask wasn't blatantly a ocarina of time sequel
Yeah dude remember when Majora's Mask had a completely different logo in a completely different font than the previous and next Zelda game?
Oh, it didn't? I bet Ganker whines a fuckton about how soulless the logo is then
Wait, we don't? How weird
HURR DURR I'M BEING RETARDED ON PURPOSE
>from cool sexy goth mutant chick to dull zombie in big wig
bottom looks like shes about to ahegao
Lack of artistic vision
Lack of limitations means no creative workarounds
A remaster or remake has never been done right.
>UGH ART IS SO SHIT NOWADAYS!
t. complainers from any era in history
>Add shadow to a game that doesn't need shadows
>Remove shadows to a game that needs shadows
Why do they always do this?
Is it because the average normie won't notice there is anything different otherwise?
what does Ganker think of nightdive and their recent remasters of quake, turok, powerslave, blood, etc?
PS2 had the kino filter
It's not needed in WW and serves it's purpose in SotC. I rest my case.
So not a single good remake or remaster exist. Thanks Ganker
Legend of Mana. Now fuck off.