>PS4 games in 2023
Is there ANY reason to switch to next gen?
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that just means that the game is going to be trash because they have to make it work with ps4s. capcom is really dropping the ball this gen.
Kind of sick of this happening, but its not like Capcom can do anything when Sony can't get enough consoles out to meet demand. I mean we're about at the point people can find one without having to resort to scalpers and twitter bots, but its not like Capcom knew when we were going to get to that point.
Sony literally holding back this generation
It's happening to Series X/S too. Hell, even Nintendo is suffering from this. Not much all 3 can do in this situation.
>that just means that the game is going to be trash because they have to make it work with ps4s.
I played Village on a PS4 pro it ran at 60fps
Framerate was hardly the problem. The PS4 version had noticeable texture pop-in and draw distance issues.
The vision of the game is still being gimped for old, shitty hardware.
So does the series s.
Yeah at 900p
>how to say I don't know anything about game design without actually saying it
Yeah moron and all the chink laptops and net cafes they'll have to optimize it for was really gonna make it a power house of next gen gaming lol
Do people ACTUALLY give a frick about the tech minutia on consoles?
This. It fricked RE8 over.
Village haters mad
Ports for older consoles has been a thing since we went from Gen 6 to Gen 7 in mid 2000's. It's also not surprising due to both consoles coming out during economic slowdown to covid and overall general inflation following afterword.
Keep seething chud, that means the RE engine is well optimized to the point it can run in ps4.
Yep. 7 looks amazing but practically any pc can run it.
You bought a PS5 for nothing dumb snoy
Modern game engines scale to pretty much anything so this is pretty much the standard going forward
Oh no the red 9 won't be displayed in glorious 8k homosexualry? Game ruined :'c
I had the slightest bit of hope it might not be total trash. This kills it.
Graphics plateau'd years ago, current gen only and multigen games look 98% identical, and technology isn't being used to improve gameplay at all
Who gives a shit?
It's not about graphics you idiot, it's about games being designed around fast loading and not having long ass hallways to disguise loading times.
>long ass hallways to disguise loading times.
you mean soul?
Absolutely braindead.
Graphics are a meme. They reached their peak in 2009 and can't be improved upon further. Only visual effects like flying particles can be implemented in more games. That is literally it.
The PS4 turns 10 next year
Biggest player base dummy
The biggest player base is fricking Mobile, dwarfing the entire home console market twice. It doesn't matter, RE4 remake will be released almost 3 years into the 9th gen, still being held back by 10 year old hardware.
Mobile games are not console games and you fricking know it.
>Bigger player base.
It is basis of your stupid argument, if size is the only factor might as well go mobile, generations have to move forward, every other one did, 2 to 3 years into it is the bare minimum to have actual new releases made solely for it, the previous gen would only get yearly FIFA releases by then.
Its because ps4 vs ps3 was a radically different architecture not worth the effort to port to ps3. And ps3 vs PS2 was just too big of a change ps3 games generally could not be compared to a ps2 game in terms of graphics. PS5 vs ps4 is basically 60fps with bells and whistles vs 30fps with some worse effects.
UE5 shows what the 9th gen and onwards only can do, there is a world of difference between the PS4 and PS5 if more developers actually made their goal to show it more often. Tekken 8 being UE5 automatically killed any chance of a PS4 release, and that's a good thing.
>UE5 shows what the 9th gen and onwards only can do
lol nope.
RTX implementation aside, it really is just UE4.5, with an auto-LOD system to make things run on weaker HW (aka mobiles)
No, we are talking about consoles here. Shut your dense whitoid mouth.
No it's not dummy. How many people are playing on PS2 today despite it being the best selling console ever you drooling moron.
>Have to downgrade the game to make it run on the PS4
Welp, there goes the next gen experience I was hoping for.
>4th DEmake in a row
>expecting it to be "next gen" and not just a reskinned Demake2 x RE8
>expecting "next gen" to be anything but a minor resolution bump post-2006
You gays are pathetic and gullible.
Maybe one day they'll wake u- nevermind
>4th
Huh? You mean third.
Original REmake was anything but a DEmake.
>Huh? You mean third.
Don't even ask. You don't want to know.
I am, and I do.
Gen Z found the original ps1 games and are now claiming the 1996 original RE1 is superior to the remake in every way. They are going so far as to say that the remake is soulless trash in desperate attempts to start flamewars and cause even more division in this already fractured fanbase.
It is not soulless nor trash, but it is worse. It adds way too many unnecessary features that bog the game down hard. The original is much better paced and designed all around.
t. Zoomer whose first RE games were 4 and deadly silence.
Its meant to be a completely new game that is still fundamentally survival horror. It is not at all comparable to the new remakes that are a different genre.
But 2 remake is survival horror...?
>2 remake is survival horror.
lmao, it's just a shitty horror-action game
Imagine yourself when you realize that the remake is more of a survival game than the original, because resources are more scarce. Oh wait, you won't accept that, because it goes against your narrative.
>Gen Z found the original ps1 games and are now claiming the 1996 original RE1 is superior to the remake in every way
WTF, I LOVE ZOOMERS NOW!
That's not based at all. They think the RE 1 remake is the same exact thing as the RE 2 and 3 remakes but it isn't at all.
>downgrade
it's an asset flip of game that also ran on ps4. at 60 fps, even. this will look marginally better (the lightings looks like it's been imptoved) and will probabably be capped to 30 fps. why not sell it to millions of poorgays and third worlders that still play on ps4? you're just leaving money on the table.
lighting*
improved*
probably*
>why not sell it to millions of poorgays and third worlders that still play on ps4
>"poorgays"
My dear idiot, it's not about people being "poor", it's about lack of availability and bad business decisions.
cope
>being rational is "cope"
great "argument" homosexual
Why do you monkeys always say this? Show me a next gen game worthy of the title. They don't look any better than ps4 games. And if you're talking about performance, why the frick are you playing on console?
anon monkeys don't talk
But he was clearly a monkey, look at him!
>downgrade
it was never not going to be on the PS4 in the first place. They did this with Village too.
>"please buy a next gen console"
>no.
>"haha only joking customer-kun we just literally this moment made a PS4 version!"
This. What the frick? Why couldn't they wait to see how it performs on the PS5 before they decide to port it? Fricking morons these zoomers Japs are.
why would they wait for it to bomb before porting it to PS4
please say you're kidding, god please. Im so tired of games being held back by 10 YEAR OLD FRICKING HARDWARE
To not play at nutured resolutions or frame rate.
Literally because nobody can buy a ps5. If it’s not on Walmart shelves, it might as well not exist
I bought a PS5 at MSRP last November.
Pretty much. Devs have no choice but to keep supporting ps4.
>PS5 software sales in the gutter for various reasons
>Devs forced to continue supporting PS4 if they want their games to sell even remotely decently
>This in turn devalues the PS5 even
I love that it's come to this, it's genuinely hilarious
Are you from 2019? PS5s have been rotting on MSRP for a full year now. Scalpers have completely moved towards other shit like the usual limited Sneakers and Shirts.
What country do you live in, homosexual?
You still can't walk into Walmart and pick up a ps5 and still have 20 on the shelf that have been sitting for 2 years BECAUSE ITS NOT A FANTASY WORLD, PS5 IS STILL SOLD OUT AND WHEN ANY STORE GETS 5 OR 10 UNITS THEYBARE GONE IN LESS THAN 1 DAY. FRICK YOU.
YES, I HAVE ONE, BOUGHT AT RETAIL MSRP.
Not to mention you can only get them in bundles, which price a lot of people out of one.
This. I REALLY don't want the Horizon bundle. I just want the regular disk version.
I saw used PS5 at gamestop yesterday.
I haven't seen ANY in stores here mate.
>are you from 2019
>ps5s did not exist in 2019
The world still can't make enough of those fricking chips to make them because of cryptomining frickers and covid
Ethereum can't be mined with GPUs anymore so expect things to calm down soon
Remember when snoys were laughing the Series S will hold back this gen from greatness?
They have to honestly, this gens sales have been so fricking abysmal that they have to cater to the previous gen.
>They have to honestly, this gens sales have been so fricking abysmal that they have to cater to the previous gen.
One wonders if Square Enix is going to pivot back to PS4 for Final Fantasy XVI
of course they are, why do you think the game got delayed
Please no. Not FFXVI…..
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Isn't Returnal on PC now?
yes
Not yet.
GO TO THE BATHROOM
They leaked it so, maybe end of the year seeing that they just released uncharted 4 release date on pc
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1659420/UNCHARTED_Coleccin_Legado_de_los_Ladrones/
>Is there ANY reason to switch to next gen?
Better performance, Returnal and Demon Souls Remake are nice too
Returnal is going to be ported for PC. Only Demon Souls Remake remains.
What if OP is a poorgay and wants a cheaper option than a PC
>Only Demon Souls Remake remains.
That's getting cucked out too.
>play it at 30 fps surely at 1080p upscaled
Imagine being a consolecuck to begin with.
What's the problem? RE8 runs at 40-60fps 1080p on base PS4 and it looks good. People are b***hes
>40-60fps
And thats acceptable to you? Get some standards moron.
nerd
Where the 120hz mode for village?
>buy a 5000$ PC
>play 20+ years old games and shitpost on Ganker(nel)
>buy a 5000$ PC
1990s called, they want their may mays back.
>play 20+ years old games
Meanwhile Snoyggers top games consist of 5+ remakes of 20-30yo games and DLC for 1-5yo multiplat games.
re remasters are not remasters but remakes. totally different
why call it a remake when it's not even been remade it's just a coat of paint onto a coat of paint
>e it's just a coat of paint onto a coat of paint
Have you never even looked at them? they aren't even done in the same engine. every asset is remade from the ground up and even different voice actors.
You can get a good pc for $1k, more than worth the price thanks to pirating.
Me
>pays for online access
as if you aren't already paying for internet on PC too you dumb frick
You moronic Black person. You're paying for both.
hey man dont come to re thread and expect half the poster to not be moronic
You're paying the service not the online play dipshit
>Pays for internet
>Pays for internet again
You sure showed him.
>You sure showed him
Take your sarcasm and shove you homosexual
>moronic
Frick you, disagreeing doesn't make one "moronic" butthole
For your own sake, I hope you're merely pretending to be moronic.
I'm not moronic, frick off, I just disagree with his shit take
>5000
My original PC with a 950 and second gen Intel cost me about $300, and upgrading to a 1660 and 10th gen Intel was $400 plus an ssd and another 2tb hdd
>buy a 5000$ PC
I never got this cope. Yes, PC are expensive (not that expensive) and bit of a hassle but the amount of versatility and uses that gives you more than make up for it.
>Mods
>Any controller you could ever want
>Can hook up to TV for couch gaming
>Pirating
>Emulation
>Best version of games (really bad ports are rare these days)
>Doesn't have to pay for online
>Can play any game from any year with a bit of tweaking
>Multitasking
>It's getting all Xbox, Playstation and Nintendo games these days
>VR (that you can also pirate for)
I'm sure I'm missing some things and I understand why people would want a console instead but the "lmao $2834529300 PC" is just cope.
>Can play any game from any year with a bit of tweaking
Even with games released in the same year. sometimes even on the day of release. This is why. Some people don't want to get on a steam forum with a thousand other ESLs trying to get their brand new purchase to function.
Can you give a recent example of this? The only times I remember I had to do this was for old games that were brought on steam and lacked widescreen support or stuff like that.
>i remember doing this
>but can you give me an example
You immediately pulled out your own examples. Why do you want me to go searching? I remember p4 being fricked on release and people trying to figure out how to make the cutscenes work.
>Buy a remasterstation 5
>pay 70 dollars to play ps4 games with worse lighting
fixed
>buy a 1000$ console
>play no games because there are none
>demake evil 4
Why the frick did anyone actually buy a PS5?
Ps4 momentum. Xbox doing bad outside gamepass, which even normalgay friends of mine dislike. Couch co-op. Not everyone is an autistic handclapper that cares more about mods or cooming like Ganker, and even then PCopes feel superior for having weaker/just as good PCs as a PS5 despite having paid more to build them/buying them built. PS5 has all the games outside Nintendo people want, when people see "console exclusive" most don't realize what it means, and those that do realize PCgays have to wait more for that game, and often run the risk of piss poor porting jobs. Japs still primarily make games for Nintendo and Sony hardware in mind, some like Vanillaware forego PC entirely.
That's why.
>all that projecting and cope towards PC's superiority
There's not been any reason to keep games hostage on a single system (AKA "exclusive") since the late 00s, and even then only Wii had honest excuses for it.
Majority of all PC ports are automatically superior and more flexible than the console variants. It tells a long tale if the most common complaints of modern ports are things like the game lacking Ultra-wide and above 60fps support out of the box, when you cannot even do neither on any console game.
And lets not forget the other freedoms and benefits of PC gaming, like free online play, cheaper games, freedom to use any controlling device ever made, chance to fix and tweak your software and hardware as you please, and no "generation" walls to speak of.
>PS5 has all the games
No son, it does not have even a quarter of SONY's own past games.
>PC superiority
>argument has to include emulation
Lol, lmao. PC standing on the shoulders of giants. You got your answer, no need to be pissed at me.
Nice reading comprehension, Pajeet.
Where on my sentences did you "see" a mention of Emulation?
But yes, if we indeed include emulation, and why wouldn't we - seeing how both Mobile and Xbox gays use it as a major selling point now - , then the PC's superiority only increases.
>minority ad hominem
>limp-dicked homosexual actually saves cringe pictures like that
>is here getting mad on a bakset-weaving forum instead of playing games on his PC
And you people wonder why you get clowned so often, lmao
>no arguments
>no arguments
>no arguments
Newsflash kid: COMPUTERS are used to make games AND surf the interwebs. Also said meme pics I posted (and made).
Phone posters like (You) are not welcome here.
>no arguments
Oh shit, happy you realized what you're doing, mate.
>makes "meme pics"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>phone posts
>plays on children's livingroom toys
Like pottery...
>implying PCels are even seeing a vegana
>Superior idort fricking all the b***hes
lol.
>Couch co-op. Not everyone is an autistic handclapper that cares more about mods or cooming like Ganker
Also, PCgays on v don't realize that some people just won't buy a PC anyways when they can just get a console with the same performance at a lower price so they don't give a flying frick if "exclusives" get ported to PC.
Cope, seethe and dilate
Do you want to take this outside you pompous little homosexual? Talk shit get hit, b***h.
>Why the frick did anyone actually buy a PS5?
Because my PS4 sounded like a jet engine when I turned it on even after I replaced the fan and put on new thermal paste. PS 5 is quiet AF and plays PS4 shit faster with better FPS
I'm a consolegay. I want to replace my launch PS4.
You fricks would just play the port/HD version anyway.
>Devs not even bothering with Xbox One ports anymore
Is the PS4 install base really that much bigger?
I think it's because Series S is easier to find, also MS stated that they would stop making XOne consoles, Sony decided to keep manufacturing PS4 consoles since the PS5 is hard to find.
>PS5 is hard to find, lets keep making more PS4
nice move Sony
Twice over, and the base Bone is ridiculously weak, the PS4 is a toaster at this point and the base Bone weaker than that, that's why Microsoft became so desperate to start their "Most Powerful Home Console" brand with the Xbox One X and now the Series X after how the VCR Xbox was compromised in power to ship that thing with the Kinect.
The base PS4 was outdated when it released and the VCR Xbone was still weaker than it. The big reason for why MS has embraced the next gen more than Sony is because they want to stop supporting the VCR Xbone.
PlayStation is for Japanese games.
>Is the PS4 install base really that much bigger?
How out of touch with normal people do you have to be to not know this? Yes. PS4 is massive. You need to get off Ganker more the morons living in fantasy land on here are giving you a false perspective on that consoles popularity.
That's the main issue is Ganker lives in fantasy land. Ganker probably represents less than 1% then actually gamers.
Yes, it's not even close. PS4 sold hundreds of millions. The Xbone sold around the same as the Wii U, which is to say it was a massive flop.
>The Xbone sold around the same as the Wii U
Lol what? The Wii U sold like 17m while the Xbone is around 50m.
frick
I hope they change their minds
PS4 and Switch sold over twice as much as Xbone, and will probably be competing for 3rd and 4th highest selling systems of all time pretty soon.
Yea. The Xbox One didn't even sell half of what the PS4 did.
PS4 to Xbone hardware sales is an over 2:1 ratio. For Japanese games the software sales gap is even wider, and for niche Japanese games Microsoft literally needs to pay devs to port their games to Xbox and PC to get them to even bother. Adding them to Gamepass for a year afterwards is how they've been getting Japanese games at all these past two years.
I cannot believe Bandai Namco of all publishers is the one daring to move forward rather Capcom right now.
There is one reason: you were dumb enough to buy an xbone
The chicks are behind this chip shortage. Never forget what they did to the world with the intention of COVID
It is so pathetic that they still are supporting that old ass gen, holy shit. You people that dont move on are ruining gaming.
The PS5 and Switch have no games
If anyone is ruining gaming it is the cretins that would buy any of capcom's DEmakes.
Anyone that buys a modern console is ruining gaming, just get an actual PC instead of a weaker one with a brand taped to it
And beg for ports on Ganker?
No thanks. I’d rather play FFXVI the day it comes out.
based playstation holding back the generation
>holding back
it's not "holding back" anything you moron, the PS5 is barely more powerful and it's still hard as hell to find them nearly 2 years on AND Sony's raising the price on it too.
No devs know what to do with anything above a 1060 yet. So they will just keep releasing on ps4 probably forever at this point. Indie devs have no reason to stop. You can expect ps4 to still be around into the 2030s at least
PS4 version just means that crossgen was always on the table to begin with. If the game was truly designed for next gen it would be made around the SSD speeds which would make a last gen port impossible. They pulled the same shit with Village once they realized there was a shortage. I guarantee Dragons Dogma 2 will be designed around a potential "emergency last gen port" as well.
I’ll consider suicide if Dragon’s Dogma 2 will be held back by last-gen.
reminder there is still no reason (games) to get a PS5 or a SEX
I'm scared to see how some things translate to full blown realism
the monsters in re8 looks funny funny bcs its not even close to looking realistic
hopefully monster in re4 will look poggers my doggers(it wont)
i played it on max with gay tracing and that part still looks ugly(graphically)
Im still gonna jerk off to his feet
I remember in 2020 that it was Sony saying they would force the gen forward with the PS5, while it was Microsoft that wanted Xbox One releases well into the 4 year of the 9th gen.
Now it is Sony the one sayin PS4 is here to stay for a while.
>we believe in generations
I 'member
Frick. I don’t know how to feel about this. I was expecting REmake 4 to be a true next-gen title.
It is a nextgen game that will use the full power of the console
It's just that on PS4 it's gonna be 1080/30fps at best, while on current consoles it'll have a proper framerate and resolution.
A true PS5 title would be impossible to run on last gen. You think REmake 2 could be downgraded to run on PS3? Hell the PS4 couldn’t handle the zombie gore technology in REmake 3 so they had to gut it.
>You think REmake 2 could be downgraded to run on PS3
Considering TLOU exist, yes
They’ve have to severely downgrade the game. Like completely butcher the zombie technology. At that point it stops beings the beloved game we know. REmake 4 was my most hyped game. Now I’m just sitting here with my head in my hands.
>REmake 4 was my most hyped game
I'm sorry that you are a gullible, shit eating homosexual.
Crapcom has not made a good RE game in over 15 years, and the DEmakes + nu-REs starting with 7 should've been the warning examples of how bad things can go this day and age.
Literally nobody wanted RE4 remake. It's absolutely 10/10 game, and any attempts to tamper with it and its winning formula shall result nothing but a nose-dive to the rock bottom.
>It's absolutely 10/10 game
Nah
They could improve the Island and give us Louise mercenary mode.
>REmake 4 was my most hyped game
How do you have any hope for it after 2 and 3 reimaginings?
REmake 2 is the best Survival Horror game of all time. Capcom confirmed that the REmake 2 team is developing REmake 4. REmake 3 wasn’t made by them.
Agreed, nostalgiagays are the worst, it's like they're so desperate to curate how people enjoy their favorite childhood games. Funny how all of them defend the the first REmake just because they also played it as children when it has the same problems the earlier REs have (door animations for one). I hope Capcom remakes the first one again so all these dummies can choke on their tears.
>unapologetic shit eaters
I hate nu/v/
As long as PS5/XSX are aiming for 4K you won't see true next-gen titles I mean it's so easy to just lower the resolution and get the game running on PS4 you gain 6-8 ms just reducing resolution not to mention most multiplats will ahve to run on series S and that console is an in-between old gen and next gen.
This is Nintendo's fault. I bet they bribed Capcom for a Switch 2 port, which we know will be on par with a PS4 at best
I don't get the doomer posting, this means it'll be perfectly playable on PC. Besides, it's not like Resi 8 looked unattractive or anything, it'll probably be like that one PS4, with some RT or 4K for PS5.
PC releases won't be magically twice as better looking as the console versions, at the end of the consoles also hold back PC releases, it will just have better performance like triple digits fps and real 4K, no PC/Console release dares to have the PC version be out worldly superior anymore, Battlefield III will remain the most known title where DICE really made the PC version look like almost an entire generation apart of the console release.
Except that all the RE engine games look and run better on PC, there's no reason why this one would be any different. In fact, judging by the trailer, I'm sure it'll just be slightly more demanding than Village, which already runs on high at 60 on my 1070.
>Except that all the RE engine games look and run better on PC,
Not a single one of them look better, they run extremely better yes, but look? No. That's the problem.
I mean, the shadow quality is definitely improved, but yes, my whole point is that you probably won't need an RTX card to run RE4, which is great.
>RTX card to run RE4, which is great
So you think it is great to be stuck in the past, am I am arguing with someone with GTX 10 series card?
Anon all I'm saying is that RE games are very well optimized and are just not that demanding, especially as current console HW isn't that great. Meaning, it isn't the PS4 that's holding the game back, it's the PS5. I'm sure that if the game does include some RT it'll be very conservative, like the other REs, so it's bound to run fine on a GTX 10 series.
>Is there ANY reason to switch to next gen?
Having standards.
What standards, people paid 8000+ for the ps3 expecting a catalog of games almost as big as the ps2 with backward compatibility but got barely that
Cool, if the remake doesn't cut stuff or add cursing, maybe I'll get it.
>Starts crying over meanie curse words
moronic underage. This site is 18+
Only underage curse every sentence. It doesn't make you cool.
>Game has to be crippled because Sony are massive morons who completely bungled the PS5 and desperately cling to the PS4
Thanks Sony
>no xbox one
Frick
silky smooth 27.6fps
I actually feel sorry for anyone that has games on a fricking ps4 for a decade, my condolences
Let’s hope they have to downgrade massively for ps4 rather than it being greatly held back on current gen consoles.
Is the PS5 even a significant bump in specs over the PS4? Only thing I remember is it implementing SSDs
err yes, ps4 only had a half decent GPU for the time everything else was dogshit, especially the CPU which is why even non demanding games (dragon's dogma, RE1 remake for example) had to run at 30fps.
not to mention the 5400rpm/SATA 2 slow ass loading
basically ps4 was like a slapped together PC prebuilt from 2010 while the ps5 managed to match high/medium spec pc from 2019, shame they never put the power to use and it'll be underwhelming soon
Why are you guys angry? I thought graphics doesn't matter and most AAA game are trash and overbudget. It would change nothing, right?
CPUs are grossly overpowered for typical single player game designs and grossly underpowered for simulations like fire propagation
Good graphics engines can scale from 480p shit that can run on a graphing calculator to 8k
I'm sure the question is just why not
They can handle simulations just fine, that stuff isn't actually in games because nobody cares.
>PS4 version
Can't wait for another RE8 where the first trailer focuses a lot on the villagers in cutscenes and showcasing them performing different AI routines and then the final game has them all being introduced and unceremoniously killed off immediately.
>the year is 2026
>the ps6 is announced
>ps4 games still come out
>the switch 2 is also out and runs games at the level of a base ps4
what a godawful future
RE2 demake was a Piss4 game.
RE7 and 8 were Piss4 games.
Obviously DEmake4 will be a Piss4 game as well.
Why the frick are consoletards going apeshit now?
>tfw Switch Successor comes out in 2023 with the power level around the Base PS4
>and still won't get any games just like RE4
LMAO
Is the Switch stronger then PS3 and 360?
its around the same power level as the ps3 and 360 maybe slightly more powerful
>2022
>he still doesnt have a PC
PS4 owner here. Can't blame us on this. It's extremely hard to to get a ps5 without some bullshit raffle, it's worse than when I tried to wait outside best buys for the ps4 and only got one because a friend of mine was at target line at the time.
Is china ramping up production at least?
I keep getting told to wait for next gen cards and cpus. Then I wil have to get my monitor and keyboard and a controller.
Getting a PC is an investment and sadly is very complicated if you don't go prebuilts like most people here tell you not to.
>don't go prebuilts like most people here tell you not to
Just ignore them like I did, the bit extra I paid for it was worth not needing to use my free time to price compare parts and put it together. Even older ones with parts like a 2060 was able to run Elden Ring on High
I want to run 4k60 like the ps5 does though. I don't see the point of geting a 2060 when it's so much weaker than current gen consoles.
Modern consoles are at best a 2070 you Black personhomosexual
I personally don't want a prebuilt because the PSUs they use can be fricking terrible.
Just get pre build on one of the holiday seasons for cheap. Do monthly payments. But only buy from sites you can pick the parts so you know what you're getting.
PC is also held back by consoles, PC versions of console titles only rarely are much better looking than their console counterparts, the usual fanfare is just better frame rates and solid resolutions, examples significantly better in a way that GTA V and Battlefield III were at the time are the exception.
It's worth it for me for two simple things
>use peripheral of choice
>not paying twice to use my internet
first person games might aswell not exist on consoles for me
I also prefer PC, I'm only saying consoles also hold PC back because I want this console gen to move forward so I can get even better PC releases right now rather than wait whenever publishers decide to ditch the previous gen.
>consoles also hold PC back
They're two completely different markets, they're not "holding back" anything. PCgays just want to feel "superior".
anyone that funded the current generation of consoles is an absolute moron
They talked about a RE showcase next month...you guys know if they give a DATE?
is there going to be a gamecube version?
Let's run it on a toaster
All you fricking do is port beg for console games dumbass
When did I beg for a console game? Can you show this assumed event to me?
I'm swimming in games, kiddo.
Persona you filthy frick
Seethe. All your exclusives are coming to pc and I'm going to pirate every single one you fricking moron.
>people in this thread thinking that the game would be that much different if it were current gen only
You forgot when this happened with ps4 and 3 too, didn’t you
>Game is out in half a year
>They still aren't comfortable showing proper gameplay
>Now they announce it's getting a last-gen port as well
Yeah, these are red flags.
>Yeah, these are red flags.
Not the fact that they're remaking the one RE game that is ,ported to every single console ever and pretty much perfect?
Enjoy your cucked trash
Is it not coming out on the old Xbox one
Why are morons complaining about this?
Games take longer than ever to develop. If the game works on PS4, why cancel it? There is no logical reason to do this as a third-party developer that wants to make money from game sales.
And for this game in specific? It's literally a remake of Resident Evil 4. There is absolutely nothing demanding about this. Graphics are scaleable. It's not like this was ever going to be the pinnacle of open world interactivity, physics and super intelligent AI.
>And exclusively not on the switch
Lmao. So the switch is something like a PS3, Wii u or Xbox 360
KEK
Why would a switch version even be on the table?
They just announced that the RE engine games would getcloud switch versions.
I wonder if the Switch Successor in 2023 will be PS4 pro tier in terms of power. That would allow Nintendo to get some lesser version of most PS5 gen games probably but I dunno if PS4 Pro tier power is possible in a handheld
the game definitely made for next gen first and now they decide to make a downgrade version for ps4
im not getting a ps5 until they drop the price and release a slim. if you're not doing it, i have no interest.
This
Not paying more than $200 + a free game like i did with my Spiderman version PS4
Same with the switch for me. It still has no games worth playing and also never dropped the price.
>switch still has no games worth playing
where the frick have you been these past 5 years?
At this point you are better off just getting the next Nintendo machine in 2023 as its probably going to be backwards compatible
Why the frick are PS4 console as expensive as a frickng PS5 now? What the actual frick??
The PS4 pro should be like 150 bucks at this point in the life cycle. Its way too expensive. Its 350 Euro for a ps4 pro or 450 for a ps5
true
Nice
To think scalpers literally kneecapped an entire gen.
Considering the last good RE was 6, I have no doubt REmake 4 will be shit.
it's not clever or funny to act like a moron
I dont see the issue here. Games on PC so they already have ultra low settings for toasters. Only thing I can see this affecting anything are the number of enemy AI on screen at once for mercenaries.
Wtf, Xbox gets only series s/x yet Sony making them force it down to the fricking ancient ps4. Stupid shit like this is why xbox keeps buying up studios
bet it was Capcom that wanted it so they can sell more copies. Xbone is rare as frick in Japan and not worth porting to.
>>this is why xbox keeps buying up studios
Wrong. They are buying because they need IP. Those franchises then can be dumped onto Gamepass.
And since when is the current gen being supported a bad thing for the next gen?
Means the game scope is limited by the last generation. Imagine if Dead Rising was built with the Wii in mind from the start instead of getting demade later. All we'd have is a worse RE4 instead of zombie kino.
>the game scope
Not the guy you're replying to, but I have to ask:
What scope? You expect them to make an open world Resident Evil 4 or something?
Having to build the game around decade old laptop CPU's means limits to shit like A.I or the shit HDD leading to those fricking long dark tunnels 7th/8th gen games love using to hide loading times.
cry more ps5 owner b***h
T. ps4 pro owner
Personally I am gonna be waiting for the playstation 6. My steam deck should suffice until then.
doing re7 on madhouse lads wish me luck I gave up for weeks lol
Good luck, I just can't get into first person RE. Doesn't feel right at all.
Well they're adding third-person to RE Village in the Gold Edition so there you go.
I am mildly enthusiastic.
I'll miss faceless Ethan, I liked that they gave such a silly personality to a man that couldn't express himself.
Remember:block is your friend
Stupid demakegays.
At least it means the VR mod is not gonna be unbearable
Sounds like they backed out of next gen only after worrying about nobody but scalpers owning a ps5
I just want to know what goes through a scalper's head. "Shit, there's a big shortage in stores for PS5s...Better add to the problem!"
sell it for more than what they paid for...?
I get that; but even scalpers can probably see that the scalping has gotten out of hand
People who make money never stop to think about how they make money
I thought summer was over.
they dont care. if im rich and evil id do the same
but if im kind,honest,homosexual and ceo of sony, id set a policy, some kind of identification, one console per person
Poor naïve moron. I hate to break it to you but people suck and don't think that far reaching. A few people don't suck as much, but they know that the resources are going to be snatched up by the bigger dickheads and realize "If it's going to be bad and someone is going to benefit a little, it might as well be me that benefits and not those dickheads."
It's electronic toys you moron no one cares if you go without the new iphone.
why did i click on re thread not expecting moron
>talk about scalper
>“no one cares if you dont have latest iphone"
can you frickers stop mixing different topic
Why did I click on a thread expecting someone who can speak english. Your entire neighborhood couldn't afford a ps5 without scalping. You'll get one in a decade and play fifa and like it.
It doesn't just apply to PS5s dumbass. Look at how Nestle sources their water. The truth of it is someone was always going to do that shit though, and Nestle thought of it first and despite being enormous dickheads are not as atypically evil as they get credit for. Just the normal amount.
I work retail, I know people suck. I'm just saying, from a business point of view, only scalping the majority of shelves will lead to better profit in the future than scalping the entire damn place in one go.
>Only reselling some units for profit is more profitable than reselling all of the units for profit
Bro, what?
If you resell all of the units, it makes a quick buck. However, if you make it so that the store runs out of stock "naturally", people are more inclined to go scalpers and you can charge even higher prices that what you were originally planning to.
Inflation alone gives you profit and the holiday seasons are coming soon. I'd be doing the same.
ESL kun are you confusing panic shopping for scalping. Scalpers intentionally create a shortage for profit. panic buyers create shortages by worrying about potential shortages,
>majority of sony players will play this on base ps4
I thought they had the marketing rights? When xboxgays are gonna be playing this exclusively next gen won't that make the performance look like shit?
No. Do it if you can afford it, don’t if you don’t.
dont at all if you dont wanna waste money, buy a 1000 dollar pc
and benefit from pirating all the 60-70 dollar game from consoles exclusive
these troonies console plebs aint got shit
I only play Bloodborne and I stole a PS4 to do it, so I won't be stealing PS5 for years if ever.
no, this generation has absolutely no exclusives, just a couple of remasters/remakes and the 10th iteration of tired franchises
Turns out all the power of next gen hardware is wasted on 4K and raytracing memes, so no there isn't. Graphics are barely any better and games are still coming for last gen.
I wish I could get a PS5 and use it at 1080p but with "ultra" settings just like on PC, turn all that power into 60fps and actual "next gen" graphics
>implying Capcom won't release an HD remake of this game in 2 years on consoles and add back in everything they had to cut out due their cross gen decision
>same game but 4k and the puddle has real reflections now
no
ps3 -> ps4 was already boring enough, unless they do something real this time I won't upgrade until they drop last gen completely
>PS4 has no games!
Ganker was wrong again, PS4 has too many games and now you're all complaining about it
I ran RE2 and 3 ABOVE 4k ~90fps on PC, so it looks like I will be able to do it again for this. This is a good thing.
Village is a lot more demanding, but yeah if you got 4K 90fps with the remakes you'll be getting at least 4K 60fps on ultra
Good. That means I don't have to pay some scalper troony for a PS5. Sony shouldn't have fricked up their console launch.
And people said Series S would be the one holding the gen down. But no, Snoy can't manufacture a console for their dear life and with the price increase in Japan you better be ready for Japanese games being gimped thanks to Sony for years to come.
>that will be $70 plus tip sir
This isn't going to get better because Japan has completely rejected the PS5. The moment the Switch succesor comes out JP third parties are going to use that as the baseline console and that sure as shit won't be close to a PS5 in power.
I can't be bothered with researching PC parts from scratch every upgrade anymore, plus GFX card prices, hence PS5.
Great, it will run on a toaster PC so.
When have we ever had to wait 3 years for a gen to actually start
What do you mean by "start"? When they stop making last-gen version of games? Why do you care? Just play the new games being released knowing they're better on current hardware, not much more to it. Aside from Nintendo doing doing their own thing, the era of clearly delineated generations/architectures is gone.
My man PS4 hardware was out of date even back in 2013 shit's ancient and needs to get dropped
Again, why do you care? If they still wanna support PS4s and GTX 9xx users by lowering the quality of all the assets and graphical effects, that's no skin off your back. There is nothing game-changing about the PS5 where simultaneous support of an inferior version would be holding the primary release back in any significant way.
Because I own a PS5 and would like to see the console pushed to its limits ASAP. You're clowning if you don't think cross-gen development takes away from this
My man, the PS5 can't even reliably do 4K 60fps of last-gen titles. Even if they tried to do some exclusive tech like ray-tracing an integral feature of a game, they'd still have to make a version without it for the performance mode. There's nothing holding the games back, the PS5 is just not that good.
Consoles are never really that good in regards to power, doesn't stop devs from optimising and releasing impressive looking games as the gen progresses, see GOW Ascension on PS3 for example. Cross gen gets in the way of this
It was a much bigger deal before because ever generation/platform used a completely different architecture, so you'd often need a separate dev just to do the porting for the other version(s). But it's all the same now. Sure, there will always be some resources spent on delivering a separate version, but no more than multiplatting a game.
>inferior version
That's a stretch, PS4 games still look really good, the PS5 barely looks any better, the only real "enhancement" is faster loading times which you could get on PS4 if you wanted by switching out the HDD for an SSD
Higher framerate would be the biggest enhancement, but yeah, they're basically just PCs with different hardware at this point. So apart from the logistics and overhead from multiple versions, it's not much different from having graphical quality sliders with some pre-set values.
Frick, Yakuza 8 isn't coming out 'till 2024 and that's still coming to PS4/Xbone. Besides Persona 5's English release (which I won't fully count since the original Japanese version came out the year before), I can't think of any other notable crossgen game that released on PS3 four goddamn years into the PS4's lifespan.
this isnt gonna change for japanese games bros, unless sony moneyhats them. the ps5 just isnt a factor in that country and it never will be
What did you expect?
More people own ps4s than ps5s
Are PS5's really that hard to get? Can't you just order one online?
Thinking about getting one, but I should probably just invest in a good PC instead.
PS5s are still very hard to get. Also wait for the 40xx series to come out before buying a PC, the 30xx cards will drop in price when that happens if the TGP of the 40xx models are too much for you. Or you can buy the new AMD cards instead.
You can, but only through scalpers. If you want one for MSRP from a regular, reputable store, you still need to sign up for notifications, wait for the intermittent stock drops and hope you get lucky.
Took me about 4 or 5 months before I got one a year ago, dunno how frequent the drops are now.
shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who follows the japanese market. they want their games to sell a little in their home country too.
The question is whether the investment is worth it. PS4 is dying quickly. Who knows how much of a difference will it make in 2023
EDF6 was released a couple weeks ago was one of the few titles in the past year to sell over 400k in Japan. If it had been on PS5 only, it would've been disastrous.
A PS5 install base of less than 25m in two years will do that to ya
Oh god RE4R is gonna be fricking shit, having to scale development for those toasters is gonna frick the entire game
Cry more pussy
>people unironically believe this was a last minute decision
Black folk this shit has been in development since at least early 2020, before anybody knew PS5 would sell like shit, stop being so moronic
this remake won't be ambitious at all, otherwise they would have made it current gen exclusive to benefit from the new CPUs and SSDs, same as GoW Ragnarok
How is this chip shortage still going on? Isn't this fricking over multiple industries?
It's going to be trash because gunplay, sound design and enemy feedback was GOAT in 4 unlike 2make, 3make, 7 and 8 where it was absolute irredeemable trash. Weapons sound like plastic toys, shitty bullest sponge enemies don't react to getting shot and even if they do it feels like you're just shooting at thin air. Re engine ruined RE. The only thing it has going for it is graphics and only homosexuals care about those.
I'd like to see Ganker refute this. They can't.
bro those nostalgia glasses are too tight
I'm looking forward to RE4 remake and I think it will be a good survival horror game, but there's not way it will ever be better than the original. Like you said, the guns will be less satisfying. It will also be less memorable, there will be less content, the characters and dialogue will be dull, and there will be no mercenaries. It will be all around less, but it may succeed in survival horror which seems to be going for.
>console players complaining about hardware holding games back
What exactly are they holding back? Every new console gen since the 360/PS3 has been just an increased texture bump at the very least. You don't see massive gameplay elements being added to games since Gen 6.
I think that's what he's saying
>What exactly are they holding back?
Nothing, I think it was smart of them to port it to PS4 as well given the state PS5 is in and the PS4 playerbase still being so massive.
pc has the same problem with having to accommodate for peoples 7 year old fricking computers.
I told you that you didn't want to know.
my first vaguely succefull attempt at recreating Bela Dimitrescu
i'll buy it at a high price
You can download it for free.
thanks, Lori
>Is there ANY reason to switch to next gen?
developers are unironically saying no so not really
Its odd. I couldn't imagine them still making PS3 games at this stage for where the PS5 is now.
They did though
Wasn't the norm, but there were still big budget aaa games coming out 7th gen in 2015
mad world
it's basically what happened with the ps2 and ps3 (also the wii for just dance)
>remake to one of the most popular games of all time gets relegated to a village asset flip
They clearly never cared in the first place.
I know this is an RE4 remake thread and that it wasn't fixed cameras to begin with but, imagine how beautiful RE2 and 3 could have been if they would have went with prerendered backgrounds with today's tech.
Anon, texture tech has unironically reached its zenith years ago. Physics and draw distance is the chokepoint.
If you have the money, and appreciate 60fps, then why not? New games aren't any cheaper on PS4 so why continue playing them on that system if you could have something better?
In that case, why not just switch to PC?
Of course you can do that too, but I guess there are levels of caring. For the price of the PS5 digital you barely get a worthwhile graphics card, let alone any of the other parts. Plus it's just simpler, easier time with HDR, native controller support, you can play your PS4 library etc. Personally speaking 60fps at 1440p is good enough, I don't care that much about performance above that, so it's just the perfectly-priced/specced box for my needs.
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XBROS... DID WE GET TOO wienerY???
None just like if you're not a graphics gay you don't need to upgrade your gpu, a 1080 is enough to play most modern games at full HD 60 fps
>it's not
It is though recomended specs for FF 15 is a 1060, RE is even lower 1030
They also called PS4 a "current gen system". Fricking 2 years after launch of PS5
>They also called PS4 a "current gen system"
Because it is, last I checked it's still getting a lot of support and a big releases on it
>it's still getting a lot of support and a big releases on it
and?
>muh cross gen
Hardware sales from last week in Japan. Sony is also hiking up the price next week.
Where's my PS2 version?
The PS2 kept getting games for years after the PS3 released.
Only for about 2 years in truth outside of shit like fifa and just dance
Nope, also https://www.re4hd.com/
>next gen
It's funny to me people still refer to the current gen as "next gen" almost two years later. The same thing happened with the transition into the previous gen. It's the surest sign that consumers are suffering from hardcore buyer's remorse and desperately trying to convince themselves and others that their purchase was worthwhile.
Resident Evil games are hardly something that requires crazy powerful hardware. Like what would you want a Resident Evil game to do that would require the power of a PS5? Like they are generally very simple but fun games.
Will normies really go out and buy the switch successor for their kids? Will parents not be like "we already have a nintendo at home"?
they didn't "downgrade" anything, they just made it for the PS4 and ported it to the PS5, it was made with PS4 hardware in mind so it will just run better on PS5
Won't be surprised if FFXVI suddenly gets announced as a cross-gen game next year lol