get ready for the 50x daily "STEAM DECK OLED OH NO NO SWITCH TENDIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THEY'RE GOING TO FUCKING KILL THEMSELVES BECAUSE I ENJOY THIS OTHER THING OH NO NO LMAOOOOO XD EPIC SKIBIDI LOL WIN WOWZERS"
i just think it's pathetic to base your entire existence on what little screen you play videogames with just because you need so desperately to belong to a group.
the switch and the deck are both amazing and i'm happy for the people who own a steamdeck, looks really cool
>tendies before
HAHAHA USING AN LCD SCREEN IN 2023 LOL STEAMIES >Tendies now
Imagine being obsessed over a screen couldn't be me, like get a life losers
>i got a switch a month ago
Why the fuck would you do that when there is no price drop, Black Friday is coming up for a bundle with Smash Bros or Mario Kart, and the Switch 2 is all but confirmed to be released next year?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
well, the switch 2 will still be there if i ever decide to get it
You called yourself out mate, if you want to be upset about people screeching about screens you should look in your own camp
Also imagine being such a retard that you bought a switch this late into its lifespan.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>mate
No one cares europoor. Keep buying American made steam deck hardware and keep arguing with yourself on an American made site.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
What if I'm Australian? Or Uzbek? Or Thai? What if I'm from Washington where Valve is based, dipshit? The Steam Deck is made in China, this website is owned by a nip and you're being replaced by Hispanics, enjoy.
not mentally, anon. this entire place is made for people who swerve out of criticism's way. that's what being anonymous has become. be whatever you want whenever you want no matter how foul or depraved, induldge in these things and stray further and further away from real life and real people because the moment you try to interact with them they look at you weird because your humor is strange and dark and you air your immediate thoughts way too quickly.
Apologies for the misunderstanding, my good retard, i think the steam deck is amazing even though i prefer the switch, i just hate the children (like you) that have nothing in their life to hold on to for an identity so they spam on Ganker about how "MY ELECTRONIC BRICK IS BETTER THAN YOURS SO I AM A BETTER PERSON HAHAHA!!!!!"
it's funny but to this day I've never seen a tendie actually asshurt about the Deck or Steam or PC or emulation. Maybe on twitter or reddit or something but here people usually are PC+Switch if anything.
I don't think there's any Switch owners here who don't also play at least old or indie PC games or emulate old Nintendo games. I know my Switch is just a convenience and compliment to my PC.
Dunno. Have a PC and switch. As soon as I get off of work I am ordering a discount steam deck. Switch was nice but this shit will be more useful to me.
not sure where the meme of the deck being a handheld ps5 is coming from when it's supposed to be handheld ps4-tier
no shit it'll struggle with ps5-only games, who the fuck is expecting to run them on those specs
Anon, you're posting your specs, you're hammering the GPU at 100% usage so the battery is going to be jack shit and that frame response time is fucking horrid.
That shit is not even playable, you would unironically get better response times by streaming it from a real PC.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I'm not doing any of those things because I don't own a Deck. I'm just holding anons accountable to their lies. >and cannot play them
Factually incorrect. That is all.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>because I don't own a Deck
steamgoys are truly deranged
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>that's not playable >but this is incredible
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>paying upwards of 500 bucks to play games on upscaled 240p
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
meant this pic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the screen is like 6 inches wide so that doesn't change anything
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I can't even tell the difference!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
just hold it closer to your face and there's no difference.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
you joke but the one in the left is somehow more readable and has a distinct style
the one on the right it looks like baby's first unreal gamejam game
why the fuck don't they use the exact same textures on all the texture settings?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
im sure if you really wanted, you could crank down the textures to below lowest settings and get the same result on PC
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
reading that made me laugh >why the fuck don't they use the exact same textures
it uses the same textures, only the switch textures are the ones corresponding to the low graphic settings
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>soul >soulless
3 weeks ago
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3 weeks ago
Anonymous
looking at those wheels, it can only go side to side, not further or closer. your fault if you can't aim to the left or right
>autists spent 2 years shitting on the deck due to the battery life and screen >valve finally fixes those problems and now the autists are playing victim since they have nothing else to use against it
They called me crazy for waiting. I told them all that early models were glorified lemons. But noooo, they didn't listen.
Same reason why I waited until the vita reached the end of its lifespan. All the kinks have been worked out, so now I can enjoy a jailbroken one with a custom memory card and none of sony's proprietary vomit.
you should always wait on hardware if you want the best version anon, the switchfags who were shitposting about the deck screen gotta remember that it took nintendo 4 years to finally upgrade to OLED
>by the time they "fix" anything the hardware is so outdated it's actually a waste of money to buy one >unlike an actual switch there's no incentive for devs to optimize for PC because they assume you have a 4090 >by the time the goydeck 2 comes out it will be obsolete as well
Steam deck tarded and a waste of money
Just buy a fucking laptop
Love hearing stupid homosexuals say it's easy to play RTS and grand strategy games on the thing lol
Get reedy to find out the Steam Deck literally cannot handle next gen only games like Alan Wake 2 and cannot play them lmao
No one cares about Alan Woke.
Anon, you're posting your specs, you're hammering the GPU at 100% usage so the battery is going to be jack shit and that frame response time is fucking horrid.
That shit is not even playable, you would unironically get better response times by streaming it from a real PC.
>That shit is not even playable
As someone who used to play on basic PS4 until last year I say that is more than playable enough.
It's a freaking portable that only costs 600 bucks, you're retarded if you expect more.
>that only costs 600 bucks
that's well above the range of "buy an used office shitbox and throw a 250 bucks gpu on it", which would run games like anal woke much better than it
Dumb tendie.
[...]
No one cares about Alan Woke.
[...] >That shit is not even playable
As someone who used to play on basic PS4 until last year I say that is more than playable enough.
It's a freaking portable that only costs 600 bucks, you're retarded if you expect more.
>that's well above the range of "buy an used office shitbox and throw a 250 bucks gpu on it", which would run games like anal woke much better than it
you are talking about the game than barely runs at 1080p on 4k series cards lmao
The good >Online interactivity with other players is fun >Nintendo Goy Account not needed >Proper outfit ranking algorithm this time >Shit ton of clothing options >Genuinely feels better to be using your own clothing designs
The bad >Basically no story, if you care about that >The different worlds have seemingly important areas that are empty (game obviously unfinished) >Male clothing options are barely better than old games >Not enough slut-wear clothing options
Other stuff >Shift from being a clothes seller to an 'influencer' >Bags are gone >Leveling up relies heavily on other players (will take much longer if you start the game when others have stopped playing it) >Devs announced they releasing free 'content updates' (the rest of the unfinished game)
>Leveling up relies heavily on other players (will take much longer if you start the game when others have stopped playing it)
fug seems scary but I might just wait for a sale. thanks for the summary anon
>8 year old worthless console weaker than a cellphone from 11 years ago propped up entirely by exclusives >you have to pay for an online component that doesn't even have a friends list
Nintendo can suck my ass.
You can smell that Nintendo panic sweat. Giddy up, lads, all the prematurely balding overweight lonely pedophiles are about to go super hyper butthurt Saiyan.
op here.
i don't speak for most handheld enjoyers (specially Ganker fanatics) but I have a switch, i got it recently because i enjoy the exclusives since when i was a teen i played a lot of wii with my family, plus i like the design, but the rest of the time i play on my pc or console so i thought it would be kind of a waste to get the steam deck.
>inb4 emulation emulation!!
yeah man i want to jailbreak my 500$ console to be able to emulate a game at 10 fps
it's a linux based operating system, you just have to put it in desktop mode and install the programs like on any other pc
there is no such thing as jailbreak and stuff, retard
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I really hope this is a troll.
Please get check for autism.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
who is the one with autism, the one who is giving reasons that you are wrong, or who says the word autism often?
it's a linux based operating system, you just have to put it in desktop mode and install the programs like on any other pc
there is no such thing as jailbreak and stuff, retard
holy autism, please go find a counselor at your high school.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I didn't know that being informed about things and having common sense was the same as being autistic
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
No but being unable to recognize a joke and responding to it literally is, without a doubt, full blown autism with a capital A. >inb4 "J-Jokes are supposed to be funny" or some other deflection.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
well, your joke was bad enough to get it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Wasn't my joke. You're talking to multiple anons, which the fact you can't pick up on, again, is autism. Please check if you have a school psychologist who can get you evaluated. She can give you social strategies to help you integrate better.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
well, I was wrong, but his joke is still too bad to get it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're the only one who responded to him literally. Everyone else got it.
it's literally a word search for emudeck from desktop mode. then you hit two buttons to install or more buttons if you want to configure it more granually. I regret waiting like 6 months before looking into it.
Laptops are not portable. >dude just carry a controller, your heavy laptop, a huge battery brick, and a cooling pad so it doesn't overheat or burns your lap when using it
it's for the goys that think they are smart and know PC gaming, the kind of fucking moron that most likely already has a gaming PC and wants to play while on the bed or taking a shit but it's too much of a fucking moron to learn how to use a streaming app to stream gameplay to your phone so they would rather drop enough money to buy another top of the line GPU on a goydeck
Laptops aren't comfortable to relax with and if you want to play games with them you still need to bring either a controller or a mouse+mousepad.
Having a portable games console with a good enough controller as part of it to be able to play basically any genre pretty well that's reasonably portable (moreso than a gaming laptop) is just pretty nice. Can also be a linux PC if you really want it to be.
I dunno, asians like handhelds they can play on the train. and rich tech geeks just like collecting gadgets.
but for the opposite reason i don't see handhelds take off here, since it's impossible to play a gameboy while driving a car. Or, not IMPOSSIBLE, but your retarded ass will crash in to something.
It's made for that "PC gamer who doesn't have much time in front of his actual PC" niche and the "console gamer who wants to experience PC gaming but doesn't want to buy a whole desktop setup or spend $2k" niche.
Not exactly a HUGE userbase, but it's there.
So he's just meeting market demand even if its a tiny segment of the gamer market. I wonder why M$ didn't catch on to this quicker, they could've been competing much earlier and probably beat the Sony Vita ten feet into the ground.
>sweeping generalization about deck "shills" (people who have anything nice to say about it on a videogame discussion board) >source for his claims: his ass
Out of all platform related threads, Deck's are the only ones where people talk about playing videogames. Insert Epic's marketing slide about "disrupting organic traffic" here.
>that only costs 600 bucks
that's well above the range of "buy an used office shitbox and throw a 250 bucks gpu on it", which would run games like anal woke much better than it
>b-buy an imaginary used pc and make a powerful one with just 250 bucks
Cope.
It's not portable. Do you really not understand?
the funny part is the PC has plenty of exclusives, but they rarely run on troonix, it also has no upgradeability for anything that matters (cpu/gpu)
it's the worst of a console, a handheld and a PC with zero of the upsides of any of them
Valve's magic guy, Pierre-Loup Griffais added it to the SteamOS kernel, so it can run HDR. I am looking forward to switching from windows to Official SteamOS for my gaming rig.
>the success of the steam deck making companies finally go back and patch/fix their shit ports they dumped on steam and/or make it natively run on linux
I don't want a deck, I just want them to fix their games, and if this helps push the needle I'm satisfied
I don't know if you understand how this works, but its a PC. You can install whatever OS you want on it. Valve can't send a killswitch and blow up your Deck.
And at that point you could just buy an ally or a legion go instead of slop with outdated hardware.
Or better yet build a real gayming PC and learn to stream to your phone then just buy one of those cheap controller phone stands.
That's cool. That has nothing to do with my post though. Just pointing out that anon who says said >how can we be sure that Deck will continue to function even 5 years later?
is retarded.
Someone was making a third party deck screen? Since you said HD I assume they're making it a higher resolution, which is a waste of time. The OLED screen probably won't work on OG decks so there could still be a market
How do people even play PC games on that tiny screen? I mostly play on a laptop and a good number of PC games are almost unplayable because the UI assumes you have a big screen, so it's either massive and blocks everything, or it's tiny and you can't read the text
So not support Valve >supports russian invasion of ukraine, funds russian army (allows replenishing wallet with qiwi) >Allows Nazis to use their platforms
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/not-game-how-steam-harbors-extremists
hohols don't even have the right to complain they've been misappropriating the deck as gun turrets to kill russians
it's just business until you're on the receiving end of a bullet
>it's okay when NIntendo does it!
Jokes aside, bigger battery, better apu, better fan, better screen and some other stuff I forgot. Performances are slightly better.
Can't wait for the steam drones to start blaming the OLED manufacturer when the inevitable burn in starts happening. When the battery is still shit, they'll blame the battery manufacturer. Deflect away from the actual culprit at all costs, that's their standard playbook.
Didn't the steam deck just came out? I know 9/10 people who bought it just wanted to own it and haven't played many games on it... are they all going to need this new one now?
Because of the wait lists most people only got their deck 12 months ago, even if it was pre-ordered. It is a bit of a fuck you to anyone who bought more than the cheapest variant of the OG deck.
They had about 500k pre-orders and they went through that within a a few months. Deck is somewhere beyond 3.5 million units sold now. So people who pre-ordered like me might have gotten bumped back a few months but not a year.
emulators are apart of FOSS territory where they run better on linux than they do on windows with the exception of the 2 that aren't linux native, shitposter-kun
How do I transfer all my shit to the new OLED model without copy and pasting folders on my desktop. Will it have a transfer assistant? Does a steamdeck transfer assistant already exist and of course it does what is it called.
Im excited to get this after not getting it initially. A good amount of kinks seem to be worked out and for the price point this is gonna be the juciest emulation and indie box there is. Patience chads wya?
SteamOS is a fairly standard Arch based GNU/Linux distribution. Everything Valve has done to make it work so well are either upstream, mostly work on the Linux exclusive AMD drivers, or session settings that you can do on any distribution but only really make sense on a 'console' system like the Steam big picture session.
The only real 'secret sauce' is Valve's hardware choices, most Windows users have hardware that won't work as well with Linux, but people who run Linux generally make the same hardware choices. 60% of Linux users run modern AMD hardware supported by RadV, under 10% run a recent Nvidia GPU.
>Deck cant download while asleep like the switch
Yeah, it can. You just need to set it to turn off the screen instead of going to sleep after X minutes on desktop.
Fuck OLED though.
who is the one with autism, the one who is giving reasons that you are wrong, or who says the word autism often?
>pretty much an improvement across the board with literally no price increase outside of the 64gb model disappearing >tons of reviewers are comparing to the ps5 slim and how the deck oled is above and beyond an actual hardware refresh/upgrade compared to what sony did
FOR FUCKS SAKE
IF VALVE CAN DO THIS
WHY CANT THOSE CHUCKLEFUCKS AT SONY SHIT OUT A VITA 2 INSTEAD OF THE DOGWATER REMOTE PLAY DEVUCE NO ONE ASKED FOR
bigger screen size + same resolution = lower ppi (pixel per inch pixel density) although to be fair the size increase is very minimal so it might not matter all that much
>$400
*for the cheapest version with less storage than some modern phones >emulates everything up to the switch and ps3
*at 30 fps and while needing to be plugged to the wall >portable h-game machine
*after jumping through massive hoops because nothing that isn't on steam runs on troonix natively >AAA pc titles
*24fps, 240p upscaled >and infinite indies
*that you will never play because you're too busy consooming youtube slop and shitposting on Ganker or playing your mobashit >essentially a steam controller 2.0
not a good thing mind you >also can be used as a PC
*runs troonix, so your mileage may vary and the instant you use it for more than shitposting things will fall apart quickly
>lots of customization with steamos decky and cssloader >change the system sounds, and change the boot and suspend animations of your machine to personalize it >emulates switch games and older games with ease >power efficient custom APU already >play your pc game saves when at work or at college
the system sounds, and change the boot and suspend animations of your machine to personalize it
The fact this is somehow a selling point is fucking laughable.
Odin 2 can't play Demon's Souls. "Android stuff" is the purest form of nogaems there is, plus it's only $100 cheaper, what?
Android is just troonix but less shit so that's a pretty big self own there.
Android is the inbred version of Linux, so much so anything made 5 versions ago doesn't even launch now. Absolute worst platform for games there is along with iOS.
>I'm tired pretending they're PC gamers.
I would consider them pc gamers in the same way one would consider someone who plays with a notebook and controller
Hmmm I'm thinking of passing down my LCD Deck to a family member when I get my OLED.
Do you anons think a 12 year old who only played on mobile will get to appreciate something like the Deck?
Or should I give to my 20 year old consolefag cousin instead?
SteamOS 3.5 is legit amazing but even that hasn't fully rolled out yet despite it being a year already. But I do think Valve will finally focus on Desktop now that the OLED is out of the way.
Yeah, but it is not Valve's fault. Asus/Lenovo should maintain and update their device like Valve does to the deck and the discontinued products such as Steam link, Steam Machine, and so.
Yeah, but it is not Valve's fault. Asus/Lenovo should maintain and update their device like Valve does to the deck and the discontinued products such as Steam link, Steam Machine, and so.
tbh its still crazy to me that valve actually understands their homework
other companies keep fucking trying to oneup each other with LOOK AT THIS NEW AYYMD CHIP WE STUCK IN HERE BIGGER FPS BETTER IT CAN PLAY AT 60 FPS*for about an hour
when the OLED is most likely going to do gangbusters because they focused on the fundamentals of handhelds 101
improved the screen, improved the comfort, and most of all improved the battery life when the deck already ran circles around the newer handhelds at low TDP
Calm down shill.
The ROG and Lenovo are still better. Who cares about any of that when the Deck probably won't be able to play GTAVI next year. Good luck with that kek.
chink CHINK CHONK SIKLY SMOOTH 40 FPS 40 HZ DRAIN UR BATTERY IN 40 MIN CHINK SHIT AHH
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>40 FPS. >After upscaling off 400p. >Not even on ultra. >This is after the goy minmaxed graphics settings so it's closer to medium+
imagine bragging about this 500 dollar toy.
go fuck Yourself valveshit nagger shill cum guzzlers i do not give a fuck about Your shitty Chinese toy getting technology that was adopted with other mobile devices 20 ( twenty ) years ago nor does Your Chinese toy have anything to do with video-games but oh it is hourly mod sucking valve israelite nagger cock for fucking free hour, every single hour of every single day of the year for a decade
no, redditors say it as a meme, or a gotcha. I say it out of respect for the last remaining masculine aspects of the Chinese spirit. That man who opposed the tanks was the strongest man in China. And then they ran him over and ground him into red paste.
Nope. Welcome to the console cycle, decker. I already got a Deck so I'll just wait 3 years for the Deck 2 and an additional year for the Deck 2 OLED or QLED or microled what whatever the fuck new tech comes out by then.
i will never understand how steamgoys will happily help kill the games they like by not supporting the devs, then cry about how everything is just movie game slop now within the same breath
I'm hoping Nintendo switches, heh, away from the nvidia tegra into something more beefy from AMD, I don't think they're locked into a deal to only use Nvidia ARM shit.
I haven't touched my hacked switch ever since I got the steam deck, it truly makes the Japanese toy redundant. It's pretty funny to see nintendo fanboys seethe over the deck though
>not even 1080p >30fps >33ms frame time
i think you can get this performance off an old ass DDR4 ryzen apu, why would you waste your money on a goydeck?
>not even 1080p
emulation performance isn't really bound by resolution like regular rasterization so you could just as well connect it to a 1080p monitor via usb c and output 1080p for a switch game
>30fps >33ms frame time
yes, that is what the game runs at on switch
>why would you waste your money on a goydeck?
because it's a handheld PC
Of course not. It's just that CONSOOMERS replace their OLED phones so often they don't realize. My OLED phone got the URL bar and keyboard burnt in just from frequent use of Ganker.
>not encouraging the Japanese to make games for the Deck by lowering the Valve tax from industry standard 30% to 5% for exclusives (which also work on linux PC.)
Missed opportunity.
They already have manufacturing so I'd imagine there would be minimal wait times. No wait til this quarter bullshit. The reason for the queues before was because they wanted to slowly scale up production so they don't fuck themselves if there turned out to be lack of demand.
>The reason for the queues before was because they wanted to slowly scale up production
It also worked as a form of hunger marketing.
I wonder how Microsoft is feeling now that their sabotage attempts haven't come to fruition.
>I wonder how Microsoft is feeling now that their sabotage attempts haven't come to fruition.
I miss something.... Tell us more about MS' sabotage attempts
israelite patent troll about the trackpads on the deck, there were brief threads about this here on Ganker this year
OEMs told to make handhelds with windows installed, you see chinese spam about it
This is older, but Steam Machine crippled by OEMs being told by M$ they're enforcing the contract to have windows only installed or pay damages
Steam Controller was also fucked over by some patent
israelite patent troll about the trackpads on the deck, there were brief threads about this here on Ganker this year
OEMs told to make handhelds with windows installed, you see chinese spam about it
This is older, but Steam Machine crippled by OEMs being told by M$ they're enforcing the contract to have windows only installed or pay damages
Steam Controller was also fucked over by some patent
There's also a patent troll over haptic feedback. I think they were suing valve and other game companies
>be an early adopter of SteamDeck 512GB edition >get fucked in every hole possible
They didn't even offer us an upgrade path. Fml. I pre-ordered and waited for months to get my original Deck and now this!?!?!
Let's go through this again.
RED LEDs = GOTTA GO FAST
BLUE LEDS = EFFICIENCY UBER ALL
GREEN LEDS = ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
PINK LEDS = MENTAL ILLNESS DETECTOR
Punishing customers for buying your product is not a great business strategy. Using sales to unload stock and trick customers is not a great business strategy.
Couldn't even wait 2 years to release a revision, holy shit Valve.
Even worse, the fuckers marketed the shit out of the original model leading up to this abrupt announcement.
Too good, too bad, too late, too soon, too expensive, too cheap, too few games, only kusoge, too slow, battery life too short.
Just sell your steam deck and buy the new one or keep it because nothing changed for it.
I'm going to wait for the next version that actually has performance improvements before I consider trading up.
I'm just surprised and somewhat disappointed about the news.
>bought Deck cause I love handheld gaming and want to support Gabe's new venture >would totally buy a newer deck with better specs that ran more modern games >instead they just release a slightly improved deck that can still only play the same games but has better screen, battery life and lighter - all things the original deck should have had in the first place
I actually feel cheated wtf
It was frankly ridiculous to launch a new handheld without an OLED screen in 2022. Larger screens are still struggling with it because of burn in but tiny screens should all just be OLED from now on, there's no reason for them to be anything but.
don't expect actual deck 2 until RDNA 4 at least
battery tech is still going to be the same for the foreseeable future
the only way you're getting better performance is to use more power (ie Z1 extreme) or wait
How the fuck haven't any of you homosexuals learned to never buy into valve's bullshit on the first round?
Did you retards already forget the steam machines?
But I want the better battery.
You are probably right though, if I build my new rig first, there will probably be better options 6 months from now if I still feel like upgrading
>But I want the better battery.
The actual Steam Deck 2 will get an even better battery. Don't worry about this crap. Worry about there being a Steam Deck 3, because version "3" is bound to not exist due to Valve tradition.
WHERE IS MY FUCKING HALF LIFE 3 GABE
Breh Valve is underselling this hard. Just made it out as a screen and battery upgrade but its packed with so much more shit than you would expect from a refresh. Even the battery estimates are conservative
>"Is there a reservation queue if you run out of Steam Decks? >Yes, if we should run out of stock for a specific model, we will switch to a reservation queue and customers will receive invitations to purchase in the order that they entered the queue. That said, we will be refreshing inventory of Steam Deck regularly, and do not foresee long queue times like we saw with the Steam Deck LCD launch."
AAAAHHHHH ITS STARTING AGAIN
I DONT WANT TO SEE Q1 Q2 ON MY FUCKING QUEUE AGAIN
They didn't install the Steam OS on it is why. You need a gimmick to attract normalfag eyes, and normalfags aren't attracted to plain old windows, it doesn't have the same branding power as Apple.
starts at $700 for the cut-down version
has some of the drawbacks of a laptop - heavier, draws more battery for higher top-end performance, you have several applications to do a bunch of different tasks compared to the streamlined steamos
if you just want top-end performance and weight isn't a huge problem then get a laptop?
and the 512 deck OLED is $550
get ready for the 50x daily "STEAM DECK OLED OH NO NO SWITCH TENDIES ON SUICIDE WATCH THEY'RE GOING TO FUCKING KILL THEMSELVES BECAUSE I ENJOY THIS OTHER THING OH NO NO LMAOOOOO XD EPIC SKIBIDI LOL WIN WOWZERS"
People still play the Shitch? lol Kind of embarassing.
i just think it's pathetic to base your entire existence on what little screen you play videogames with just because you need so desperately to belong to a group.
the switch and the deck are both amazing and i'm happy for the people who own a steamdeck, looks really cool
>tendies before
HAHAHA USING AN LCD SCREEN IN 2023 LOL STEAMIES
>Tendies now
Imagine being obsessed over a screen couldn't be me, like get a life losers
i got a switch a month ago, but have hated this annoying discourse over the years, i'm sorry me calling you out puts you in such distress.
>i got a switch a month ago
Why the fuck would you do that when there is no price drop, Black Friday is coming up for a bundle with Smash Bros or Mario Kart, and the Switch 2 is all but confirmed to be released next year?
well, the switch 2 will still be there if i ever decide to get it
You called yourself out mate, if you want to be upset about people screeching about screens you should look in your own camp
Also imagine being such a retard that you bought a switch this late into its lifespan.
>mate
No one cares europoor. Keep buying American made steam deck hardware and keep arguing with yourself on an American made site.
What if I'm Australian? Or Uzbek? Or Thai? What if I'm from Washington where Valve is based, dipshit? The Steam Deck is made in China, this website is owned by a nip and you're being replaced by Hispanics, enjoy.
Funny thing is, you're not actually disproving anything he's said
Nintendo should sue valve
You're a grown man participating in an imaginary console war.
not mentally, anon. this entire place is made for people who swerve out of criticism's way. that's what being anonymous has become. be whatever you want whenever you want no matter how foul or depraved, induldge in these things and stray further and further away from real life and real people because the moment you try to interact with them they look at you weird because your humor is strange and dark and you air your immediate thoughts way too quickly.
>frogposters are also seething tendies
Incredible
Apologies for the misunderstanding, my good retard, i think the steam deck is amazing even though i prefer the switch, i just hate the children (like you) that have nothing in their life to hold on to for an identity so they spam on Ganker about how "MY ELECTRONIC BRICK IS BETTER THAN YOURS SO I AM A BETTER PERSON HAHAHA!!!!!"
get a life, it's not that serious.
>seething essay full of pure projection
>frogposter
Incredible
>get a life
>i prefer the switch
We can tell, tendie. Not reading the rest of your boring essay.
>Oh no this [shitpost] is going to displace [other different shitpost].
I'm sorry, what are you coming to this board for exactly?
it's funny but to this day I've never seen a tendie actually asshurt about the Deck or Steam or PC or emulation. Maybe on twitter or reddit or something but here people usually are PC+Switch if anything.
First day? I've seen that day one Kirby emulation webm alone posted at least 10 times and I don't even frequent the butthurt tendie threads.
I don't think there's any Switch owners here who don't also play at least old or indie PC games or emulate old Nintendo games. I know my Switch is just a convenience and compliment to my PC.
Tendie here
The deck makes me seethe to no end and I am so fucking butthurt rite noaw.
Also I'm gay and my penis is small and I use reddit.
Here's a double space to prove it.
Literally the post that anon is replying to
Dunno. Have a PC and switch. As soon as I get off of work I am ordering a discount steam deck. Switch was nice but this shit will be more useful to me.
we need an updated version with the reduced bezels and fully black levels
I'm a tendie and laughed my ass at this. What's your point?
Get reedy to find out the Steam Deck literally cannot handle next gen only games like Alan Wake 2 and cannot play them lmao
not sure where the meme of the deck being a handheld ps5 is coming from when it's supposed to be handheld ps4-tier
no shit it'll struggle with ps5-only games, who the fuck is expecting to run them on those specs
For $500 it should play Alan Wake 2.
It's $349 and a handheld system
From what's listed, it sounds like it's just a more efficient version of the same apu. If so, we should already know it's performance.
>neither will the switch 2
nta but the Switch 2 will have dozens of 1st party games that shit on Alan Wake 2. So who cares?
>and cannot play them lmao
Alan Wake 2 runs on Deck. Feel free to respond to this post with your goalpost move.
>24fps
>Looks like a PS3 game with an HD texture mod.
How cinematic.
>Feel free to respond to this post with your goalpost move.
Right on time.
Anon, you're posting your specs, you're hammering the GPU at 100% usage so the battery is going to be jack shit and that frame response time is fucking horrid.
That shit is not even playable, you would unironically get better response times by streaming it from a real PC.
I'm not doing any of those things because I don't own a Deck. I'm just holding anons accountable to their lies.
>and cannot play them
Factually incorrect. That is all.
>because I don't own a Deck
steamgoys are truly deranged
>that's not playable
>but this is incredible
>paying upwards of 500 bucks to play games on upscaled 240p
meant this pic
the screen is like 6 inches wide so that doesn't change anything
I can't even tell the difference!
just hold it closer to your face and there's no difference.
you joke but the one in the left is somehow more readable and has a distinct style
the one on the right it looks like baby's first unreal gamejam game
why the fuck don't they use the exact same textures on all the texture settings?
im sure if you really wanted, you could crank down the textures to below lowest settings and get the same result on PC
reading that made me laugh
>why the fuck don't they use the exact same textures
it uses the same textures, only the switch textures are the ones corresponding to the low graphic settings
>soul
>soulless
looking at those wheels, it can only go side to side, not further or closer. your fault if you can't aim to the left or right
>actually responds with goalpost moving
fucking tendoids lmao
>goalpost moving as prophesized
>autists spent 2 years shitting on the deck due to the battery life and screen
>valve finally fixes those problems and now the autists are playing victim since they have nothing else to use against it
They called me crazy for waiting. I told them all that early models were glorified lemons. But noooo, they didn't listen.
Same reason why I waited until the vita reached the end of its lifespan. All the kinks have been worked out, so now I can enjoy a jailbroken one with a custom memory card and none of sony's proprietary vomit.
you should always wait on hardware if you want the best version anon, the switchfags who were shitposting about the deck screen gotta remember that it took nintendo 4 years to finally upgrade to OLED
>by the time they "fix" anything the hardware is so outdated it's actually a waste of money to buy one
>unlike an actual switch there's no incentive for devs to optimize for PC because they assume you have a 4090
>by the time the goydeck 2 comes out it will be obsolete as well
>unlike an actual switch there's no incentive for devs to optimize
here's the one of the few current gen games running on the switch
>*here's one of the few
fug
>Movie game slop.
You're proving the point, you can play those for free and at ultra settings on youtube.
>fighting game
>movie game slop
are you pretending to be stupid anon?
MK games literally have a fucking "skip gameplay" option in the pause menu
>Uhhh actually that doesn't count!
homosexual
>every single deck thread tendies come in and make fun of "no oled xDDD"
they deserve to get bullied
deckchads stay winning
Steam deck tarded and a waste of money
Just buy a fucking laptop
Love hearing stupid homosexuals say it's easy to play RTS and grand strategy games on the thing lol
I can taste your despair.
Dumb tendie.
No one cares about Alan Woke.
>That shit is not even playable
As someone who used to play on basic PS4 until last year I say that is more than playable enough.
It's a freaking portable that only costs 600 bucks, you're retarded if you expect more.
>that only costs 600 bucks
that's well above the range of "buy an used office shitbox and throw a 250 bucks gpu on it", which would run games like anal woke much better than it
It's 350.
nobody is buying the version where you have to glue an external drive to it
Now you're just making stuff up. What causes someone to be so mind broken by a portable gaming computer.
>that's well above the range of "buy an used office shitbox and throw a 250 bucks gpu on it", which would run games like anal woke much better than it
you are talking about the game than barely runs at 1080p on 4k series cards lmao
On the contrary, you'll see 100x more "X device is better than Steam Deck!" threads
STAY MAD!
I CAN PLAY YOUR GAMES ON MY DECK FOR FREEEEEEE
whoever makes this shit, I like them, and hope they have a good life.
Wish we got so many more of these
The only game I've played on my Switch in the past two years is Fashion Dreamer.
is fashion dreamer good to fill the hole style savvy left?
The good
>Online interactivity with other players is fun
>Nintendo Goy Account not needed
>Proper outfit ranking algorithm this time
>Shit ton of clothing options
>Genuinely feels better to be using your own clothing designs
The bad
>Basically no story, if you care about that
>The different worlds have seemingly important areas that are empty (game obviously unfinished)
>Male clothing options are barely better than old games
>Not enough slut-wear clothing options
Other stuff
>Shift from being a clothes seller to an 'influencer'
>Bags are gone
>Leveling up relies heavily on other players (will take much longer if you start the game when others have stopped playing it)
>Devs announced they releasing free 'content updates' (the rest of the unfinished game)
>Leveling up relies heavily on other players (will take much longer if you start the game when others have stopped playing it)
fug seems scary but I might just wait for a sale. thanks for the summary anon
you be careful around kappa karen there, that's my wife you're taking casual photos of
>that's my wife you're taking casual photos of
Anon... she already gave me her hair [spoiler]when she came to my room.[/spoiler]
that was a good thing. hopefully the homosexual will stop thinking computer girls are real girls, and will fix his brain.
Pungent third world energy.
>frogposter
>abhorrent post
>said "spam" hasn't even started yet but tendies are already doing damage control
These, but unironically.
The pure copium on display here is insane. Nintendo fans were crying for months and now they're upset that people are mildly laughing at them.
>8 year old worthless console weaker than a cellphone from 11 years ago propped up entirely by exclusives
>you have to pay for an online component that doesn't even have a friends list
Nintendo can suck my ass.
Literally nobody was doing that until you started it you massive homosexual. What is actually right with you?
'ick on 'eckbros, we're SO back
>valve scrambling to compete with Nintendo after their launched handheld shit was a total sales failure
lol, lmao
'ick on o'led 'eck?
You can smell that Nintendo panic sweat. Giddy up, lads, all the prematurely balding overweight lonely pedophiles are about to go super hyper butthurt Saiyan.
I still don't understand why people buy these things. just get a normal pc or hell, even a laptop.
op here.
i don't speak for most handheld enjoyers (specially Ganker fanatics) but I have a switch, i got it recently because i enjoy the exclusives since when i was a teen i played a lot of wii with my family, plus i like the design, but the rest of the time i play on my pc or console so i thought it would be kind of a waste to get the steam deck.
>inb4 emulation emulation!!
yeah man i want to jailbreak my 500$ console to be able to emulate a game at 10 fps
You paid 500 dollars for a switch?
>Jailbreak
>jailbreak a PC
Highly illegal emudeck install, you need to change states to do it.
Yes, change from based to fully based states.
You aite, green boy.
Please get check for autism.
who is the one with autism, the one who is giving reasons that you are wrong, or who says the word autism often?
it's a linux based operating system, you just have to put it in desktop mode and install the programs like on any other pc
there is no such thing as jailbreak and stuff, retard
holy autism, please go find a counselor at your high school.
I didn't know that being informed about things and having common sense was the same as being autistic
No but being unable to recognize a joke and responding to it literally is, without a doubt, full blown autism with a capital A.
>inb4 "J-Jokes are supposed to be funny" or some other deflection.
well, your joke was bad enough to get it
Wasn't my joke. You're talking to multiple anons, which the fact you can't pick up on, again, is autism. Please check if you have a school psychologist who can get you evaluated. She can give you social strategies to help you integrate better.
well, I was wrong, but his joke is still too bad to get it
You're the only one who responded to him literally. Everyone else got it.
I wasn't the only one who didn't get it
Oh ok.
You and one other.
>say it's a troll
>didn't get it
Wut.
Jesus christ this animation is gross. It's like messing around with one of those fake halloween bags of eyeballs
gay
it's literally a word search for emudeck from desktop mode. then you hit two buttons to install or more buttons if you want to configure it more granually. I regret waiting like 6 months before looking into it.
I really hope this is a troll.
>jailbreak
For your own good I hope you are just pretending to be this retarded.
OP you are underage/zoomer, please off yourself waste.
I was born in 2005.
Yes we know, you are underage, and still a child, please have a nice day, go do drugs and waste away in a gutter or something, you are useless.
Oh and I'm trans btw
Laptops are not portable.
>dude just carry a controller, your heavy laptop, a huge battery brick, and a cooling pad so it doesn't overheat or burns your lap when using it
It's for people who like handheld gaming. You wouldn't get it.
it's for the goys that think they are smart and know PC gaming, the kind of fucking moron that most likely already has a gaming PC and wants to play while on the bed or taking a shit but it's too much of a fucking moron to learn how to use a streaming app to stream gameplay to your phone so they would rather drop enough money to buy another top of the line GPU on a goydeck
I do need it for a long family christmas vacation.
Laptops aren't comfortable to relax with and if you want to play games with them you still need to bring either a controller or a mouse+mousepad.
Having a portable games console with a good enough controller as part of it to be able to play basically any genre pretty well that's reasonably portable (moreso than a gaming laptop) is just pretty nice. Can also be a linux PC if you really want it to be.
>even a laptop
Show me a laptop under $400 that runs games as well as the Deck does without overheating.
I spent more time on my 3DS than my PC ever since I start wageslaving. I get the appeal.
I dunno, asians like handhelds they can play on the train. and rich tech geeks just like collecting gadgets.
but for the opposite reason i don't see handhelds take off here, since it's impossible to play a gameboy while driving a car. Or, not IMPOSSIBLE, but your retarded ass will crash in to something.
ok, game with the laptop in your hands, hold it like a controller.
small hands, thin wrists, detected
I have a PC, but I can't take it to work.
It's made for that "PC gamer who doesn't have much time in front of his actual PC" niche and the "console gamer who wants to experience PC gaming but doesn't want to buy a whole desktop setup or spend $2k" niche.
Not exactly a HUGE userbase, but it's there.
>spend $2k
Idiot. You can build a machine much stromger than the deck for the same price.
An equivalent GPU costs just under the amount it costs to buy the cheap Deck, silly.
Yes, $2k was hyperbole, heh.
Ok don't forget to include the cost of the monitor and the controller. Don't forget to add a controller with track pads, haptics, and gyro.
So he's just meeting market demand even if its a tiny segment of the gamer market. I wonder why M$ didn't catch on to this quicker, they could've been competing much earlier and probably beat the Sony Vita ten feet into the ground.
can I buy the new battery and oled screen to install myself?
nah, the hardware is improved and it has a much better battery.
>WAHHHHH PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT GAMING NEWS WAHHHH
nta but I wouldn't mind if 90% of Steam Deck threads weren't shitpost threads
90% of the shitposting is from underage third-worlders eager to get their console war fix.
deckshills are all trannies
>sweeping generalization about deck "shills" (people who have anything nice to say about it on a videogame discussion board)
>source for his claims: his ass
Valve is the company that does the most amount of shilling on Ganker
Where is my fucking check?!
Out of all platform related threads, Deck's are the only ones where people talk about playing videogames. Insert Epic's marketing slide about "disrupting organic traffic" here.
>OLED
Enjoy your burn-ins.
lmao okay grandpa here's your prune juice, you can watch your murder she wrote and talk about the burnin.
still not buying the shreck
sorry
but not sorry
Still zero exclusives, right?
>yes I want anti-consumer garbage to pollute this product
Why?
I'll take that as a "yes"
Well its a PC so yeah, hundreds.
PC has thousands of exclusives lol. In before you say they're shit or some other gay cope.
It had tears of the kingdom as a timed exclusive
kek
Not the new one.
>b-buy an imaginary used pc and make a powerful one with just 250 bucks
Cope.
It's not portable. Do you really not understand?
the funny part is the PC has plenty of exclusives, but they rarely run on troonix, it also has no upgradeability for anything that matters (cpu/gpu)
it's the worst of a console, a handheld and a PC with zero of the upsides of any of them
pcfags don't even play games. why would they have exclusives
We have everyone's exclusives.
Oh yeah everything on pc and all exclusives from nes to ps2/gamecube
>nintendo announces anything
>pages of threads
>everyone else has to just live with it
>anyone else makes anything
>especially anything that might compete with nintendo
>nintentoddlers literally shitting and pissing themselves over it
Shit, it's releasing on my birthday, should I get it?
Different thing but wildfrost came out on my birthday and I bought it only for that reason( don't like the genre) and i absolutely love that game.
I fucking hate the stupid steam deck but you're a fucking moron if you think steam deck threads are what's ruining the board
LOL When The Nintendo Switch 2 Will Come Out In 2026 And Be The Most Powerful Handheld In History PC Autists Will Seethe And dilate
>HDR
i thought troonux doesn't support that, wtf when did this happen. microshaft sirs wtf do we do now???!?
Valve's magic guy, Pierre-Loup Griffais added it to the SteamOS kernel, so it can run HDR. I am looking forward to switching from windows to Official SteamOS for my gaming rig.
Thank god we still have room for the twitter screencap threads.
bump
>the success of the steam deck making companies finally go back and patch/fix their shit ports they dumped on steam and/or make it natively run on linux
I don't want a deck, I just want them to fix their games, and if this helps push the needle I'm satisfied
If Valve is not supporting paying clients on WIndows 7, how can we be sure that Deck will continue to function even 5 years later?
>even 5 years later
I will be surprised if valve doesn't drop support for the goydeck by next year like how they dropped support for steam machines.
I don't know if you understand how this works, but its a PC. You can install whatever OS you want on it. Valve can't send a killswitch and blow up your Deck.
And at that point you could just buy an ally or a legion go instead of slop with outdated hardware.
Or better yet build a real gayming PC and learn to stream to your phone then just buy one of those cheap controller phone stands.
That's cool. That has nothing to do with my post though. Just pointing out that anon who says said
>how can we be sure that Deck will continue to function even 5 years later?
is retarded.
Damn those guys making the Deck HD screens must be on fucking suicide watch right now
Someone was making a third party deck screen? Since you said HD I assume they're making it a higher resolution, which is a waste of time. The OLED screen probably won't work on OG decks so there could still be a market
Also smaller bezels, bigger screen
Fuck OLED, when the hell are they going to fix the nasty ass input lag from using the frame limiter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRH6_tN8g38
I'll gladly take more Deck talk over the same faggy /misc/ bullshit.
it looks like the OLED version was made even more repair‐friendly.
How do people even play PC games on that tiny screen? I mostly play on a laptop and a good number of PC games are almost unplayable because the UI assumes you have a big screen, so it's either massive and blocks everything, or it's tiny and you can't read the text
put it 5 inches from your face
How does one device make people seethe so hard?
Is it cause of Linux? Tendies feeling threated? Just valve haters?
So not support Valve
>supports russian invasion of ukraine, funds russian army (allows replenishing wallet with qiwi)
>Allows Nazis to use their platforms
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/not-game-how-steam-harbors-extremists
the real reason to not support them is them going full snoy and trying to kill anime, i don't give a shit about dead people that don't matter to me
holy based, was on the fence for buying a steam deck but this convinced me
Sony is better cuz they are russiaphobia - Sony bricked all Russians' PS5+PS4. No refund for them. :^)
>like and retweet
why?
make you seethe. 🙂
in that case keep it on your twitter, don't change it
>PS5 is a fucking DRM BOX that can be bricked remotely anytime
Playstation cuckolds brutally cucked.
They... they look just like me...
I... thank you...
Yes, Valve is EXTREMELY ANTISEMITIC!
Me on the bottom
>a fool and his money are easily parted
Good goy!
fuck off hohol
hohols don't even have the right to complain they've been misappropriating the deck as gun turrets to kill russians
it's just business until you're on the receiving end of a bullet
Didn't it already flop?
>can't even come close to the vita in sales
Whew
How much do you have to weigh to hold one of this things comfortably?
So is it just an OLED upgrade? No performance difference?
There's an article where tests showed a small FPS boost. And the battery lasts longer now.
Nope, just the meme screen.
Sorry, video not article.
Stop posting israelite Foundry
The APU is now on a 6nm die. No other changes, so the only difference should be reduced power usage for the same performance.
>it's okay when NIntendo does it!
Jokes aside, bigger battery, better apu, better fan, better screen and some other stuff I forgot. Performances are slightly better.
Well the performance boost comes form steam deck update 3.5
What's the best way to flip my old steamdeck after I buy a new OLED one.
Install Undertale on it and give it to a homeless, change his life forever.
'ick on 'ed
dick on ded
yup instant buy for me.
SIX HUNDRED AND FOURTY NINE AMERICAN BURGERS
do not get the 1tb model the anti glare ruin the Oled vibrant
>ESL
>retarded
Every time
he's right though, why the fuck would you get antiglare on an OLED?
>though
yeah
Can't wait for the steam drones to start blaming the OLED manufacturer when the inevitable burn in starts happening. When the battery is still shit, they'll blame the battery manufacturer. Deflect away from the actual culprit at all costs, that's their standard playbook.
i doubt they will even use their shiny new goydeck for long enough for burn in to be an issue, they will just buy the new version before that happens
Fuck yes bros.
but is it still 60hz?
90hz
I hope they launch an OLED screen compatible with the normal deck so that one can change it.
Now were talking.
Didn't the steam deck just came out? I know 9/10 people who bought it just wanted to own it and haven't played many games on it... are they all going to need this new one now?
>Didn't the steam deck just came out?
almost 2 years ago
>are they all going to need this new one now?
Need? no. Their decks will still work.
>are they all going to need this new one now?
the performance is literally the same, it's just more battery efficient+bigger battery+bigger screen
Because of the wait lists most people only got their deck 12 months ago, even if it was pre-ordered. It is a bit of a fuck you to anyone who bought more than the cheapest variant of the OG deck.
They had about 500k pre-orders and they went through that within a a few months. Deck is somewhere beyond 3.5 million units sold now. So people who pre-ordered like me might have gotten bumped back a few months but not a year.
Feels like the shader shit will never be fixed, oh well.
it's funny because I can emulate a switch game on steam deck and it runs better than if its on the switch
why are nintendies so pathetic?
the real surprising thing is the emulator running on troonix
emulators are apart of FOSS territory where they run better on linux than they do on windows with the exception of the 2 that aren't linux native, shitposter-kun
alright I'm buying it
will be a nice upgrade from the 1TB one I bought already
> improved thermals
shrink heatsink and lower TDP, but it is good enough.
>tendie seethe
love to see it
finally have a reason to play TOTK
How do I transfer all my shit to the new OLED model without copy and pasting folders on my desktop. Will it have a transfer assistant? Does a steamdeck transfer assistant already exist and of course it does what is it called.
Warpinator might suffice for you?
it's called cloning your hard drive.
I'm just going to transfer my SSD/SD card to the new deck.
okay but when will the grafix get upgraded
Im excited to get this after not getting it initially. A good amount of kinks seem to be worked out and for the price point this is gonna be the juciest emulation and indie box there is. Patience chads wya?
Any competition to it at that price point?
Is Steam OS more efficient compared to your standard Windows 11 to get out the most frames from the given hardware?
It's Linux based, so presumably yes, but it depends on what other shit they added to it.
>windows 11
lol @ ur life
Well, the rest of handhelds all come with standard Windows OS.
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SteamOS is a fairly standard Arch based GNU/Linux distribution. Everything Valve has done to make it work so well are either upstream, mostly work on the Linux exclusive AMD drivers, or session settings that you can do on any distribution but only really make sense on a 'console' system like the Steam big picture session.
The only real 'secret sauce' is Valve's hardware choices, most Windows users have hardware that won't work as well with Linux, but people who run Linux generally make the same hardware choices. 60% of Linux users run modern AMD hardware supported by RadV, under 10% run a recent Nvidia GPU.
nintendies are in meltdown mode
>OLED
>Deck cant download while asleep like the switch
How fucked is the burn in going to be?
steamgoys don't actually use the hardware to play games, doubt it will be that bad
what makes you think it can't?
???
Just dont put anything on screen while you download? Are you retarded?
5 to 10 years down the line (not that the deck will be relevant for modern gaming then), LCD IPS won't have any defects.The OLED will.
OLed switch has only been out for 2 years and redditors already have burn-in
I tried to warn these retards
>Deck cant download while asleep like the switch
Yeah, it can. You just need to set it to turn off the screen instead of going to sleep after X minutes on desktop.
Fuck OLED though.
The one who can't read social contexts.
Are you american, anon?
The erogestation aspect is pretty underappreciated.
Are you european
>pretty much an improvement across the board with literally no price increase outside of the 64gb model disappearing
>tons of reviewers are comparing to the ps5 slim and how the deck oled is above and beyond an actual hardware refresh/upgrade compared to what sony did
FOR FUCKS SAKE
IF VALVE CAN DO THIS
WHY CANT THOSE CHUCKLEFUCKS AT SONY SHIT OUT A VITA 2 INSTEAD OF THE DOGWATER REMOTE PLAY DEVUCE NO ONE ASKED FOR
Sony has been skating by on nostalgia for too long. Unfortunately they feel really safe in big markets like the UK
Thanks but Im buying the superior Lenovo Legion Go myself. Too late valve
Dall-e is already the nail.
WHY DID THEY GIVE IT A WORSE SCREEN RES? WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE BIGGER.? FUCKING SAME RETARD MISTAKE SWITCH OLED MADE.
because fuck you, all your modding for the goydeck 1 is useless now
pay up goyim
>WHY DID THEY GIVE IT A WORSE SCREEN RES?
it's the same resolution tho??
>WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE BIGGER.?
Because the bezels were fucking huge while the frame is exactly the same and no one liked the giant ugly bezels
bigger screen size + same resolution = lower ppi (pixel per inch pixel density) although to be fair the size increase is very minimal so it might not matter all that much
>it's the same resolution tho??
unsurprising steamgoys are this stupid
both are 800p, unless you're a complete fucking retard and meant PPI, which is not resolution
israelites hate Steam.
>1280x800
>1280x800
>different
Actual retard.
>OP thinks Valve marketing on Ganker is something new
They got their claws in early
oh fuck i do want it since I love my mine.
what if im not a poor fag and just give my old deck to my family and get the new deck
Are there really any reasons to not get a Steam Deck?
>$400
*for the cheapest version with less storage than some modern phones
>emulates everything up to the switch and ps3
*at 30 fps and while needing to be plugged to the wall
>portable h-game machine
*after jumping through massive hoops because nothing that isn't on steam runs on troonix natively
>AAA pc titles
*24fps, 240p upscaled
>and infinite indies
*that you will never play because you're too busy consooming youtube slop and shitposting on Ganker or playing your mobashit
>essentially a steam controller 2.0
not a good thing mind you
>also can be used as a PC
*runs troonix, so your mileage may vary and the instant you use it for more than shitposting things will fall apart quickly
Spitting fax
>lots of customization with steamos decky and cssloader
>change the system sounds, and change the boot and suspend animations of your machine to personalize it
>emulates switch games and older games with ease
>power efficient custom APU already
>play your pc game saves when at work or at college
yeah it's pretty decent id say
the system sounds, and change the boot and suspend animations of your machine to personalize it
The fact this is somehow a selling point is fucking laughable.
Android is just troonix but less shit so that's a pretty big self own there.
says the tech illiterate windows toddler who shits on Linux kek
Android is the inbred version of Linux, so much so anything made 5 versions ago doesn't even launch now. Absolute worst platform for games there is along with iOS.
I don't get steam deck, just use a PC
if you want niche emulator stuffs get odin or odin 2, + you get android stuff
why are people this retarded
PC isn't a handheld
>if you want niche emulator stuffs get odin or odin 2
"No."
Odin 2 can't play Demon's Souls. "Android stuff" is the purest form of nogaems there is, plus it's only $100 cheaper, what?
Can steam deck fags be considered console gamers or mobile gamers?
I'm tired pretending they're PC gamers.
>can play anything
>can use any peripheral
>can install third party software
I'm sorry anon-san
you can treat them like PS vita gamers if you want
it's literally the psp but for pc gamers
u get the deck if u already have a pc and steam account with games
>u get the deck if u already have a pc and steam account with games
So you're telling me it's the vita or Wii U of PC gaming.
No, it has games.
>Vita had no ga-
Where is Vita 2? Oh wait, according to Sony, it flopped so hard.
Still better than pixelshit slop.
Bunch of weaboo games and a lot of shitters noone knows
>Library is 90% ports
I can't believe Sony was copied by Nintendo this time
okay, which of these are any good though
>I'm tired pretending they're PC gamers.
I would consider them pc gamers in the same way one would consider someone who plays with a notebook and controller
>OLED Display
>30-50% more battery life
So we could've had double the battery life if it just used a regular LCD display??? Really getting tired of OLEDs
oled is more power efficient
the oled panel being thinner than the lcd is what enables the batter to be bigger in the first place
you're a retard
>Steamdeck OLED is superior to Switch's inferior OLED
>while being more efficient than switch
we got too cocky..... tendiesisters.... snoysisters.....
I can't wait for when Switch 2 will release and mog the utter living SHIT out of this shart deck
I'll buy that too. And the monster hunter anniversary ??? laptop????
Is this the trend now? Asus has evangelion and gundam peripherals and motherboards and shit
>I can't wait for when Switch 2 will release and mog the utter living SHIT out of this shart deck
DLSS 2 will be a marketing point for it. Imagine the combination of nintendo fanboys and nvidia fanboys.
I shouldn't have gotten a steam deck.
Is it worth selling my 256 gb lcd for the oled deck?
Yes
Hmmm I'm thinking of passing down my LCD Deck to a family member when I get my OLED.
Do you anons think a 12 year old who only played on mobile will get to appreciate something like the Deck?
Or should I give to my 20 year old consolefag cousin instead?
indoctrinate the kid to pc gayman
it's not pc gaming thou, you're literally like a handheld and console fag hate fuck child that wants to pretend to be the grandpa PC
I own the 256GB version and I will absolutely be getting this version too.
>limited edition version only comes with anti glare
>anti glare ruins the point of an OLED
I hate this...
>anti glare ruins the point of an OLED
QRD on this?
OLED's best feature is how it provide inky blacks.
The matte finish on the antiglare fucks with that a bit.
Should I ask my mom to buy it for me for Christmas?
Yes, but they would be sold out so fast.
I reported so much OS bugs to Valve that got fixed the past year.
You fuckers better say THANKS FOR BETATESTING to me but unironically. Enjoy the 'eck.
I kneel.... but will you please keep doing it on the OLED deck and deck 2? Pretty please? <3
Thank you for your amazing contribution.
when can i just install that shit on a desktop i grow weary of windows
According to them, they will release it when it is done.
SteamOS 3.5 is legit amazing but even that hasn't fully rolled out yet despite it being a year already. But I do think Valve will finally focus on Desktop now that the OLED is out of the way.
just install troonix normally if you're that desperate
Thanks for beta testing homosexuals.
No problem man, have fun.
Who wants to buy my old Deck? 🙂
Same here.
I love mine, but the upgrade sounds good to me.
Yeah, I'm gonna post mine on CL and eBay. Probably offerup too. I use mine too much to pass up a direct upgrade like this.
Good idea. I am planning to do that as well.
I was going to be SEETHING if Valve announced this before Black Friday
I was this close to getting the LCD model
Well, you should thank them for announcing this early.
We are so back.
Send it back cuz you have 30 days return
im Auto too
Give that one as a christmas present to your bud, buy the upgrade, and then play together.
I almost feel bad for the lenovo now
At least the rog ally had a bit of leeway but the legion go is going to get totally smothered
Yeah, but it is not Valve's fault. Asus/Lenovo should maintain and update their device like Valve does to the deck and the discontinued products such as Steam link, Steam Machine, and so.
tbh its still crazy to me that valve actually understands their homework
other companies keep fucking trying to oneup each other with LOOK AT THIS NEW AYYMD CHIP WE STUCK IN HERE BIGGER FPS BETTER IT CAN PLAY AT 60 FPS*for about an hour
when the OLED is most likely going to do gangbusters because they focused on the fundamentals of handhelds 101
improved the screen, improved the comfort, and most of all improved the battery life when the deck already ran circles around the newer handhelds at low TDP
Calm down shill.
The ROG and Lenovo are still better. Who cares about any of that when the Deck probably won't be able to play GTAVI next year. Good luck with that kek.
Rockstar probably wants GTA6 playing on the deck. The magic guy at Valve will find a way to get it working.
they gave 0 fucks about it running on the switch
doubt they will give a shit about it running on the goydeck
cope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pK2TzU7N7s0
chink CHINK CHONK SIKLY SMOOTH 40 FPS 40 HZ DRAIN UR BATTERY IN 40 MIN CHINK SHIT AHH
>40 FPS.
>After upscaling off 400p.
>Not even on ultra.
>This is after the goy minmaxed graphics settings so it's closer to medium+
imagine bragging about this 500 dollar toy.
nobody actually plays games on a tiny screen like this right
you know you can filter threads, right? I hope you aren't retarded, op
I just bought a steamdeck 🙁
my condolences
You can literally request a return right now and they'll get you set up with the OLED, contact Steam Support.
I got it about two weeks ago, d’ya think they’ll still accept it?
worth a try. you won't lose anything, either way. but the sooner you try, the better your chances
Thank you anons 🙂
Just return it cuz you have 30-day window.
reach out to them, so they are more likely to help you out if you want the deck OLED.
Why? For what purpose?
Posting in an expertly crafted shill thread
go fuck Yourself valveshit nagger shill cum guzzlers i do not give a fuck about Your shitty Chinese toy getting technology that was adopted with other mobile devices 20 ( twenty ) years ago nor does Your Chinese toy have anything to do with video-games but oh it is hourly mod sucking valve israelite nagger cock for fucking free hour, every single hour of every single day of the year for a decade
Tianamen Square 1989
>t.
no, redditors say it as a meme, or a gotcha. I say it out of respect for the last remaining masculine aspects of the Chinese spirit. That man who opposed the tanks was the strongest man in China. And then they ran him over and ground him into red paste.
I can't believe this device cuases so much asshurt on Ganker
lol, so uhh, I can trade in my old eck for a big discount on the new one, right Gabe? ... r-right???
No. Now you learn why Nintendo does so many revisions on their handhelds to get FOMO double dippers
Nope. 🙁
It looks like we have to sell ours at a small loss
>my old eck
No because you speak like a homosexual.
Nope. Welcome to the console cycle, decker. I already got a Deck so I'll just wait 3 years for the Deck 2 and an additional year for the Deck 2 OLED or QLED or microled what whatever the fuck new tech comes out by then.
>eck
I was going to say give it as a gift to someone and get the new one, but you probably icked it.
BUY MY CHINK TOY CHINK CHONK VALVE GOY CHINKY CHINK CHINK
Thanks for your serial number. :^)
>Phoneposter
Why would anyone want this when Switch 2 is around the corner and will blow the shit deck away?
they don't play the same games.
You're right, Switch 2 will play better games.
yeah nintendo's entire back catalog of games is pretty terrible, huh?
most people grew out of Mario and Kirby like 20 years ago
>Switch 2
According to the rumor, it will not be more powerful than the Steamdeck. lmao
I can play the switch games on my deck for free. Stay mad.
i will never understand how steamgoys will happily help kill the games they like by not supporting the devs, then cry about how everything is just movie game slop now within the same breath
You sure can buddy. Maybe the new hardware will let you play it at 2FPS higher, that's double the framerate of the last one!
This is pretty old btw, I'd like to see what it's like now.
I'm hoping Nintendo switches, heh, away from the nvidia tegra into something more beefy from AMD, I don't think they're locked into a deal to only use Nvidia ARM shit.
switch 2 is fully backwards compatible so they are for now
now whatever will be after switch 2 likely goes amd unless nvidia makes a better deal
I haven't touched my hacked switch ever since I got the steam deck, it truly makes the Japanese toy redundant. It's pretty funny to see nintendo fanboys seethe over the deck though
>playing Kirby and the Forgotten World on a non-OLED screen
I don't particularly care about oled, but you will no longer have this cope in a few weeks
Deck still can't run Switch games as well as the Switch can. Cope.
anyone with eyes can look at that webm and call you a massive homosexual
>Deck still can't run Switch games as well as the Switch can. Cope.
You're right, it runs them better.
the switch can barely run its own games. links awakening remake dips below 30 consistently, wtf
But for now I do, and the fact that people put up with such dogshit-smeared colours rather than a gorgeous OLED baffles me.
>weeks
You can buy a Switch OLED right now anon, and it'll run better than the slide show on the shit deck.
>slide show
I can feel your seethe accompanying your denial of reality.
>not even 1080p
>30fps
>33ms frame time
i think you can get this performance off an old ass DDR4 ryzen apu, why would you waste your money on a goydeck?
>not even 1080p
emulation performance isn't really bound by resolution like regular rasterization so you could just as well connect it to a 1080p monitor via usb c and output 1080p for a switch game
>30fps
>33ms frame time
yes, that is what the game runs at on switch
>why would you waste your money on a goydeck?
because it's a handheld PC
What is this video that was made when that game first came out supposed to convey?
>Limited Edition actually looks nice
>NA only
FUCK OFF GABEN
THE ONE FUCKING TIME I ACTUALLY WANT TO CONSOOM
>Limited Edition actually looks nice
It looks like one of those shitty gayman laptops.
You'd be a dumb consoomer to buy this if you already have an existing deck. Wait for AMD to build them a better custom APU 2 generations onwards.
>Wait for AMD to build them a better custom APU 2 generations onwards.
WHEN"?!?!?!? I DONT" WANT TO WAIT MORE?!?!?!?
Waitfags always win.
>went from 4790k to a 5800x3d
>went from 1080ti to a 6950xt
the limited edition looks like fucking ass
and whats with the orange color theming?
isnt steam fucking BLUE????
orange and black is better than orange and blue
I just ordered one last week wtf
>oled is more power efficient
on what planet
Every planet
Techlet here. Apparently Valve is getting the OLED screen from the manufacturer Nintendo is sourcing from.
OLED burnin is a meme right? I just need to turn off the screen when it downloads for a few hours and ill be good?
better safe than sorry
>OLED burnin is a meme right?
Of course not. It's just that CONSOOMERS replace their OLED phones so often they don't realize. My OLED phone got the URL bar and keyboard burnt in just from frequent use of Ganker.
At least valve will probably sell replacement screens
FUCK THE SWITCH!
>Valve is also working on several game projects targeting the current Steam Deck hardware
WHAT
DID
VALVE
MEAN
BY
THIS??
Source? And I doubt it'll come to anything, they haven't made any good games in ages.
I do hope they would be good. I do like Aperture Desk Job.
Desk Job was 20 minute kino. And a testament that ""Valve humor"" still makes me laugh.
Aperture Desk Job 2. Killer app.
>the cinegrid tranny is still incapable of making a singular good post
Grim.
>not encouraging the Japanese to make games for the Deck by lowering the Valve tax from industry standard 30% to 5% for exclusives (which also work on linux PC.)
Missed opportunity.
I don't feel like buying a second deck for better battery, I wonder if you can open the deck up and put in the battery yourself.
ctrl+f/search deck and only 4 (four) results
where's the spam, Mansley!?
I've literally only ever seen anti-steamdeck spam.
OR buy a Switch Lite with Animal Crossing pre-installed for $199 lol.
L O N D O N
i guess the screen itself would be absolutely not backwards compatible?
Correct
don't let them lie to you like this. the screen itself is irrelevant, as long as it has the same connectors.
I'm not one to fuck around with hardware modding, but it should be possible, they didn't make the screen bigger or smaller.
So should I wake up early to be first in line for this thing or will Valve actually have enough stock so that the Q1 Q2 Q3 shit doesnt happen again
1 pm est on realease day
Yes, it would sell out like crazy like last 2 years ago.
does it really matter? will it change your life in any meaningful way?
Yeah, you are right, PS5 will not change my life in any meaningful way.
They already have manufacturing so I'd imagine there would be minimal wait times. No wait til this quarter bullshit. The reason for the queues before was because they wanted to slowly scale up production so they don't fuck themselves if there turned out to be lack of demand.
>The reason for the queues before was because they wanted to slowly scale up production
It also worked as a form of hunger marketing.
I wonder how Microsoft is feeling now that their sabotage attempts haven't come to fruition.
>I wonder how Microsoft is feeling now that their sabotage attempts haven't come to fruition.
I miss something.... Tell us more about MS' sabotage attempts
israelite patent troll about the trackpads on the deck, there were brief threads about this here on Ganker this year
OEMs told to make handhelds with windows installed, you see chinese spam about it
This is older, but Steam Machine crippled by OEMs being told by M$ they're enforcing the contract to have windows only installed or pay damages
Steam Controller was also fucked over by some patent
I remember... Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Don't view this with a good vs evil mindset though, it's just corporate warfare. The winner should always be the gamer.
I totally agree.
100% correct
good, valve should suffer
There's also a patent troll over haptic feedback. I think they were suing valve and other game companies
>no $400 model
Come on gaben. Quit being a greedy fuck
There is one. Look harder.
That's cool, but what I really want is a smaller version. That's what will get me to buy another Deck.
LMFAO, thanks for beta testing valve drones. I'll be buying the new oled now.
This is still a beta test. The hardware is too weak.
This is wild it actually fixes pretty much all my problems with the original eck
I might actually have to CONSOOM now
Don't bother it. Just wait for Deck 2. Let me have that OLED deck now.
>be an early adopter of SteamDeck 512GB edition
>get fucked in every hole possible
They didn't even offer us an upgrade path. Fml. I pre-ordered and waited for months to get my original Deck and now this!?!?!
How could anyone ever trust Valve again?
WHAT?!?! HOW TELL US YOUR SECRECT?!?!?
That's not my pic. Found it in a Google search.
Wasted? They're selling those as brand new and tested. In fact they may charge you more for it since it was used in the marketing video.
Yep, we're going back to the golden age of game and anime sponsored peripherals.
thanks for beta testing goyim
now buy the new product
>Valve wasted loads of OLED Decks just to make a minute long marketing video with the eck orb
it looks DOPE af.
The trailer is pretty smart tbh.
The main selling point of the OLED is the lighting.
So what better way to show that than using a bunch of OLED Decks for the lighting?
RIP to that guy who sold HD screens for the deck.
If anything this is a business opportunity to buy old decks for cheap and sell them for original price with the screens installed.
I want Valve to explain to me why the OLED has a red theme. The Limited Edition too.
When in the fuck did they ever use red as part of their branding?
>When in the fuck did they ever use red as part of their branding?
NOW.
That bit of red looks like something outta Portal. The evil camera look.
beats me, bro
Apple watch ULTRA
AMG Red
BMW Label Red
etc...
uhhhh bro...
did you look at what color the valve logo has?
>he doesn't like red
Red is the most powerful and masculine of all colors. If you don't like it, then that says a lot about you.
It's a shit edgelord color, always has been. That being said it does pop out the most with OLED by far.
red is for cucks, either have it be full RGB or don't bother
>full RGB
gayyy
Let's go through this again.
RED LEDs = GOTTA GO FAST
BLUE LEDS = EFFICIENCY UBER ALL
GREEN LEDS = ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY
PINK LEDS = MENTAL ILLNESS DETECTOR
I guess it is just marketing gimmick like this
and
It works.
>red is an edgelord gimmick
Alright, fellas, go ahead and share what your favorite color is. Don't be shy. Aside from red, I also like aquamarine.
Punishing customers for buying your product is not a great business strategy. Using sales to unload stock and trick customers is not a great business strategy.
Scummy behavior.
Sneed
>valve certified refurbish is already sold out
wtf
You wanna buy mine bro?
I wish there was a Ganker only market on this board enforced by gun-toting squads in case of fraudulent merchandise.
I know why
The screens are not interchangeable according to every review of this thing so far.
>The screens are not interchangeable according to every review of this thing so far.
oh interesting... which one review confirms this?
Red and the hues around it are the colors that are most vivid and pop the most on an OLED screen.
Cooler colors like blues don't as much.
>say they're not going to come out with a new deck for a long time
>pulls this before the switch 2 is even announced
get KEKD'd tendies
>they announced a fucking oled before even expanding to SA
FUCK FUCK FUCK OFF
Gaben can only HUE you one last time before something breaks.
at this point I consider gabe to be an ascended anon, a truly based retard, with money to throw towards dumbass projects.
I don't think he really cares that much. He's the Walt Disney of PC gaming, as soon as he dies, it's all gonna get fucked, and he knows it.
Couldn't even wait 2 years to release a revision, holy shit Valve.
Even worse, the fuckers marketed the shit out of the original model leading up to this abrupt announcement.
Too good, too bad, too late, too soon, too expensive, too cheap, too few games, only kusoge, too slow, battery life too short.
Just sell your steam deck and buy the new one or keep it because nothing changed for it.
I'm going to wait for the next version that actually has performance improvements before I consider trading up.
I'm just surprised and somewhat disappointed about the news.
>bought Deck cause I love handheld gaming and want to support Gabe's new venture
>would totally buy a newer deck with better specs that ran more modern games
>instead they just release a slightly improved deck that can still only play the same games but has better screen, battery life and lighter - all things the original deck should have had in the first place
I actually feel cheated wtf
Don't feel bad, you're all beta testing. I'll buy this when linux gaming matures even further and the hardware gets even more powerful.
Being early adopter sux.
It was frankly ridiculous to launch a new handheld without an OLED screen in 2022. Larger screens are still struggling with it because of burn in but tiny screens should all just be OLED from now on, there's no reason for them to be anything but.
don't expect actual deck 2 until RDNA 4 at least
battery tech is still going to be the same for the foreseeable future
the only way you're getting better performance is to use more power (ie Z1 extreme) or wait
How the fuck haven't any of you homosexuals learned to never buy into valve's bullshit on the first round?
Did you retards already forget the steam machines?
It's different this time, the Deck has its own supply lines that can't be cut off by OEMs under Microsoft's thumb.
>It's different this time
or so the steamgoys say every single time
Should I buy an oled? I have a launch deck and I fucking love it AND I have the disposable income but I was going to build a new desktop....
Build your new desktop and put linux in it. Don't bother with this.
But I want the better battery.
You are probably right though, if I build my new rig first, there will probably be better options 6 months from now if I still feel like upgrading
>But I want the better battery.
The actual Steam Deck 2 will get an even better battery. Don't worry about this crap. Worry about there being a Steam Deck 3, because version "3" is bound to not exist due to Valve tradition.
WHERE IS MY FUCKING HALF LIFE 3 GABE
Fuck me the OLED actually looks good. And the battery pretty much puts at actual handheld territory now.
I am getting MAJOR FOMO. Fuck. If this has a launch discount I might bite.
consoooooooooooomer
Give me a break bro. I never bought the original Deck so its okay.
send your cash to me and I will send you an autographed photo of Gabe saying "you are cool"
>DF calling it one of the best handhelds of all time
Calm down you fucking shills
dwarf fortress?
>Limited Edition translucent colorway only available with etched glass screen that mutes OLED color vibrance.
>Pre-ordered the 512GB edition almost 2 years ago.
>arrived middle of last year.
>now I'm already 512GB and 1 OLED screen behind
Fucking hell man. Is there any way I can do a refund or trade-in for an upgrade? I should just buy a Lenovo Go at this point.
>Is there any way I can do a refund or trade-in for an upgrade?
I think you can trade it in.
yes, but you have to do it now. if you wait, the opportunity will be gone.
Breh Valve is underselling this hard. Just made it out as a screen and battery upgrade but its packed with so much more shit than you would expect from a refresh. Even the battery estimates are conservative
>"Is there a reservation queue if you run out of Steam Decks?
>Yes, if we should run out of stock for a specific model, we will switch to a reservation queue and customers will receive invitations to purchase in the order that they entered the queue. That said, we will be refreshing inventory of Steam Deck regularly, and do not foresee long queue times like we saw with the Steam Deck LCD launch."
AAAAHHHHH ITS STARTING AGAIN
I DONT WANT TO SEE Q1 Q2 ON MY FUCKING QUEUE AGAIN
>no spec upgrade
Literally DOA
The Lenovo and ROG run CIRCLES around this lmao
Good luck playing next gen titles decktards
>Good luck playing next gen titles decktards
Like what?
>next gen titles
>they're all movie game california garbage
Forspoken, anyone?
Doesn't the steam deck play cyberbunk at 30fps?
legion go seems to be the only real competitor since it has a trackpad but no reviewer seems to showcase it. Weird.
Legion Go seems even more dead in the water than the Ally tbh.
Barely seen any word of mouth about it.
They didn't install the Steam OS on it is why. You need a gimmick to attract normalfag eyes, and normalfags aren't attracted to plain old windows, it doesn't have the same branding power as Apple.
starts at $700 for the cut-down version
has some of the drawbacks of a laptop - heavier, draws more battery for higher top-end performance, you have several applications to do a bunch of different tasks compared to the streamlined steamos
if you just want top-end performance and weight isn't a huge problem then get a laptop?
and the 512 deck OLED is $550
>that sexy transparent limited edition
Fuck
It's etched glass screen only, don't bother.
>etched glass screen only
Not problem. It is barely noticeable. Plus, you can play it better outside.
>It is barely noticeable.
You sure?
still too big and ugly. i'm waiting for steam deck 2
It's not going to get any smaller than this. We've hit the limit of shrinking hardware components and we need a revolution in battery tech.
>$450 for the original 512gb deck now
Jesus. Valve is not going to make it easy for nintendo in the handheld space.
>refurbished is $360