>rich politician in real life who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is bad and evil

>rich politician in real life who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is bad and evil
>rich politician in video games who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is based and redpiIIed

Why are you like this Ganker?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It makes a difference when you’re literally Raiden

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >strip away or exploit my freedoms
    Good thing Armstrong wanted to do neither of that

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is 100% said by a person who would not survive the society Armstrong sought after

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Neither would you, moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Autistic guy in 1938 who thought he'd live through the Aktion T4 program

        I’d rather take my chances with an AnCap society than Communism or Liberalism.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Good. Neither would you. By our deaths humanity would evolve to new levels of superiority.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >me seeing OP's mother in Rimworld
        >I save her, treat her with glitterworld medicine, give her prosthetics and keep her safe
        >me seeing OP's mother in real life
        >I rape and kill her

        Based

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This is 100% said by a person who would not survive the society Armstrong sought after
        people that say dumb shit like this are usually projecting welfare queens that are mad that they'd have to work under an Armstrong administration.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Autistic guy in 1938 who thought he'd live through the Aktion T4 program

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        aktion t4 barely offed 100k people
        most of them gays and gypsies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Strip away the protection of the freedoms you have so people can exploit your freedoms for their ideals.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Anon Armstrong's plan is to use manufactured child soldiers to create a forever war to funnel money to himself until his army is big enough to overthrow the federal government and turn the US into a lawless warzone.

      https://i.imgur.com/WSIALy6.jpg

      >rich politician in real life who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is bad and evil
      >rich politician in video games who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is based and redpiIIed

      Why are you like this Ganker?

      Why? Because they wrote Armstrong as a demagogue too accurately. He's a violent psychopath intent on killing hundreds of millions but he focuses on vague grievances with the status quo to cover up the fact that his plan is objectively worse.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you'd think people would realize the person literally cutting the brains out of children was not a role model, but here we are

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It just goes to show how incredibly effective the rhetorical techniques he used are. They're the same ones any populist uses.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >overthrow the federal government and turn the US into a lawless warzone
        Exactly. He wants absolute freedom. Everyone makes their own way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You dumbass, for him a world were the strong rule was ideal for Armstrong because nobody was stronger than him, so he could do away on whatever he desired, that's why Raiden called him batshit insane.
      Authority is based upon violence, period.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      im trans

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So the children that were abducted, had their brains harvested, hypnotized, and then put into killbots have 100% agency in their situation? Good to know.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So the children that were abducted, had their brains harvested, hypnotized, and then put into killbots have 100% agency in their situation? Good to know.
        But that happened in Mexico and not in Armstrong's America. Checkmate commie.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Smartest tranime
      Armstrong is objectively evil, Raiden fought him because Armstrong’s endgoal was a world full of Raidens and Armstrongs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >a world full of Raidens and Armstrongs
        Sounds fun.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >being surprised that a shithole board like this one has no idea why they worship something or have certain beliefs
    Reminder that most things people believe in here are left-leaning ideals or practices.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Also reminder that salesgays still don't realize that companies can buy their own merchandise at zero cost to bloat projected sales numbers and manufacture desire lol

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Will you ever stop seething?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      friendly reminder that when we discuss Armatrong theres alwasys morons like this

      This is 100% said by a person who would not survive the society Armstrong sought after

      >Autistic guy in 1938 who thought he'd live through the Aktion T4 program

      these are dysgenic leftoids who project their inability to fight or defend themselves into others, they know they cant survive, they dont know how to shoot a gun and they live in urban hellholes full of Black folk that are capable or killing them in a second, they are scared, thats why they tell you that its bad for everyone even when your average man can actually survive and prosper on a situation like this

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Indeed, what's worse is that the people they claim to hate are the ones that write their paychecks. The totalitarian dictators they see in history were financed by the same people that tell them to have a "summer of love", or defend blacks no matter what. Despiteful mutants were never going to be anything better than middle management at the absolute pinnacle of their career. Serfs to the same people that financed the wars to begin with. Some of these little bastards even know this, but they don't care. Just like Discord moderators, the promise of even the slightest power and their sold. They'll put you in mass graves and gulags for it. Pathetic, ugly little virtue signaling political prostitutes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        anon are you currently a billionaire or closely related to a billionaire?
        if no, you wouldn't survive his world

        that's the flaw with Armstrong's reasoning, if he truly wanted a world where the strong rule the weak he would forcefully put everyone on equal footing first, for everyone to crawl up from the dirt

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >nah, i'd win

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >/misc/ weaklings thinking they can do anything

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          some of us weren't raised by a single mother unlike you, m8

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >your average man can actually survive and prosper
        Why would an AVERAGE man "prosper" in situation like this?
        Survive - sure. Someone has to do the actual work after all. He'll probably have his money extorted and his wife raped by gang members once in a while, though.
        Prosper? Well, some will become low ranking gang members, I guess you can call it "prosper". But even this is not "average".

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          heres the thing, you are still thinking on a culturally enriched cities, Im talking about suburban/ rural areas where people actually trust eachother and wont act like feral animals towards eachother

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Those areas will either be unable to support life without trade routes or else immediately conquered by a private army.
            You fricking morons always think you're going to live in some kind of magic prairie bubble, it's tragic.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Chaz.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, anon, unlike those filthy savages I'm sure you'll behave like a gentleman when resources become scarce

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cities will be the hubs of organization in a collapse scenario. The idea of all civilization or trade just falling apart after an apocalyptic event is a meme. There will not be 10,000 self sustaining small towns there will be a much smaller amount of places where the majority of people flock to and where all the skilled labor is highly valued. You're not going to have one doctor living in your small town with minimal tools the doctors are all going to find the nearest largest functioning hospital and network from there temporarily driving out to more remote areas as needed and the same applies for basically every important trade.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >There will not be 10,000 self sustaining small towns there will be a much smaller amount of places where the majority of people flock to and where all the skilled labor is highly valued
          All the skilled useless labor? In the event of a massive apocalyptic event the current global , extremely specialized economy is totally disrupted. You're not going to be able to magically import the different resources needed to sustain that kind of labor. Rural communities that already rely on some local sustainability are going to be less hit by this. Places like rural Afghanistan is gonna be pretty much exactly the same

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cities will be the hubs of organization in a collapse scenario. The idea of all civilization or trade just falling apart after an apocalyptic event is a meme. There will not be 10,000 self sustaining small towns there will be a much smaller amount of places where the majority of people flock to and where all the skilled labor is highly valued. You're not going to have one doctor living in your small town with minimal tools the doctors are all going to find the nearest largest functioning hospital and network from there temporarily driving out to more remote areas as needed and the same applies for basically every important trade.

            >Rural Afghanistan, whose people rely heavily on food and medicinal aid from both charities and terrorists, will be exactly the same in a global trade collapse
            Idiot.
            >Cities will stay standing in a governmental and trade collapse despite not having the resources to support its population and the immediate threat of PMC organizations seizing the land if there's anything remotely worth having on it
            Idiot.

            In an actual collapse scenario there will be compounds run by private militaries and frickall else. If you have the resources and knowledge to survive on your own (hint: you don't) then you're going to get taken over by force.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >whose people rely heavily on food and medicinal aid from both charities
              They really don't, idiot. All of those extremely isolated villages barely see any of it, same with a lot of Africa. You have no idea how much of that aid is wasted or never makes it to who it's supposed to.

              will stay standing in a governmental and trade collapse despite not having the resources to support its population and the immediate threat of PMC organizations seizing the land if there's anything remotely worth having on it
              Yeah nice strawman, dipshit, I didn't say any of that.
              >In an actual collapse scenario there will be compounds run by private militaries and frickall else
              Yes, essentialy warlordism.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >nuh uh they don't! Afghanistan makes tons of food and medicine!
                lmao
                >I didn't say that!
                Yeah, the other post I quoted did...

                Forge your own path chicken-shit. If you can't, that's your own damn fault.

                >if you can't it's because you were immediately beat down by a billionaire with a functional army
                FTFY

                I'm a fighting age male in good health, I'm getting conscripted for sure.

                You don't get conscripted into a PMC you idiot

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Excuses don't work on anyone but yourself. You have nothing to blame for your failure but you and your laziness.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    well, armstrong will gift you a gun and a chance to fight for your freedom at least.
    the ones irl will put a slave collar on your neck without even grating a chance to escape

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Schizophrenically juggles between screaming at you to die and recruiting you to his side
    >Yo this character is so heckin right about everything!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what is irony

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because he has charisma

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Armstong's social darwinism is basically
    >Give everyone cybernetics and high powered weaponry - every man a king
    Not
    >Eat the bugs, live in a pod, you will own nothing and be happy

    Given the choice id happily choose Armstrong

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >give everyone cybernetics
      that's not what he wants anon
      he wants people who can afford cybernetics to do what they want with those who can't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >he wants people who can afford cybernetics
        Yeah and he wants to pioneer cheaper more available cybernetics as a means of decentralizing state control of the means of violence. Wasn't that whole point of kidnapping children and experimenting on them? He was opening the cyber arms market to everyone

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he really doesn't anon
          the point of kidnapping kids was to create an army of psychotic mercenaries to be used and discarded as he saw fit, no other reason

          this wasn't some greater good kind of BS, he was in literally zero ways opening up the market to everyone

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the point of kidnapping kids was to create an army of psychotic mercenaries to be used and discarded as he saw fit, no other reason
            Yeah because he had a vision where he wanted to introduce post state warlordism based on technological progress , hence the pmc?

            >Wasn't that whole point of kidnapping children and experimenting on them?
            He wasn't experimenting on them, he was brainwashing them into mindless soldiers for his PMC by using a modified version of the program Raiden ran in MGS2.

            In case you haven't caught on yet, Armstrong's speech is populist horseshit. He just wants power and as long as there are governments with armies his PMC won't have the most power.

            The populism was sarcastic, he wants to create a new class of warrior elites / warlords. In the process he floods the markets with cybernetics to create a new class of soldiers however.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              the child soldiers aren't meant to be elites, they're meant to be slaves
              slave soldiers that literally cannot live civilian lives

              He's not going to flood the market with cybernetics, he's going to spread expensive cybernetics among the wealthy and elite

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the child soldiers aren't meant to be elites, they're meant to be slaves
                That's the new soldier class, people like Jack and Armstrong would be the warlords. There's a Greek word for that type of government that essentially means "rule by violence" but I forget the name.

                >He's not going to flood the market with cybernetics, he's going to spread expensive cybernetics among the wealthy and elite
                Making a new soldier class of cybernetic psychos creates a black or even white market for cybernetics my dude.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Wasn't that whole point of kidnapping children and experimenting on them?
          He wasn't experimenting on them, he was brainwashing them into mindless soldiers for his PMC by using a modified version of the program Raiden ran in MGS2.

          In case you haven't caught on yet, Armstrong's speech is populist horseshit. He just wants power and as long as there are governments with armies his PMC won't have the most power.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Armstrong wants every man to be a king

      Are you high? He literally goes on a rant about how America (and by extension Americans) have become a festering cancer that need to be purged until only the fittest remain. And even then, the remaining population is just meant to fight and kill each other to settle their disputes.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's more like
        >Every man a warlord
        But yeah no I stand by what I said. Armstrong just wants a massive purge to make people stronger and devolve into warlordism not literally own the whole world.

        >Afghanistan makes tons of food and medicine!
        They're locally sustaining when they aren't being ripped apart by war, medicine not so much but food team. But you're getting distracted from the point, rural communities that rely more on local or domestic production will be less hit by a collapse of international trade and economy. We've already seen this with the bronze age collapse and collapse of Rome , it wouldn't be any different. Then eventually economies return and the trade begins to flourish and labor becomes more specialized again. There is no urban vs rural conflict, people will divide on ethnic, cultural, and religious lines like always.

        >You don't get conscripted into a pmc
        If the pmc takes over the local government based on a coup and decides to turn you into a cyborg for a massive army like Armstrong wants - then yeah you do.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Meant for

          >nuh uh they don't! Afghanistan makes tons of food and medicine!
          lmao
          >I didn't say that!
          Yeah, the other post I quoted did...
          [...]
          >if you can't it's because you were immediately beat down by a billionaire with a functional army
          FTFY
          [...]
          You don't get conscripted into a PMC you idiot

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Armstrong just wants a massive purge to make people stronger and devolve into warlordism not literally own the whole world.
          Ahh yes, he's an idealist! It's just coincidence that he'll have the strongest military and a stranglehold on the strongest technology placing him above every other living human.

          >Afghanistan is locally sustaining-
          No.

          >rural communities that rely more on local or domestic production will be less hit by a collapse of international trade and economy
          You're betraying a complete ignorance of logistics again. You're seeing this in vague terms to allow for the idea that these "rural communities" would be able to isolate and self-sustain without regular trade, fertilizer and pesticide production, irrigation. You're ALSO ignoring the fact that these "rural communities" are not in magic pocket dimensions, but on the planet earth, where there are other people with gigantic private armies looking to take over any land that actually can sustain farming or livestock.
          >Look at the bronze age collapse!
          We're not in the fricking bronze age.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Armstrong just wants a massive purge to make people stronger and devolve into warlordism not literally own the whole world.
          Ahh yes, he's an idealist! It's just coincidence that he'll have the strongest military and a stranglehold on the strongest technology placing him above every other living human.

          >Afghanistan is locally sustaining-
          No.

          >rural communities that rely more on local or domestic production will be less hit by a collapse of international trade and economy
          You're betraying a complete ignorance of logistics again. You're seeing this in vague terms to allow for the idea that these "rural communities" would be able to isolate and self-sustain without regular trade, fertilizer and pesticide production, irrigation. You're ALSO ignoring the fact that these "rural communities" are not in magic pocket dimensions, but on the planet earth, where there are other people with gigantic private armies looking to take over any land that actually can sustain farming or livestock.
          >Look at the bronze age collapse!
          We're not in the fricking bronze age.

          I just think of it as Armstrong falling onto the chaos alignment of SMT, your free, but that freedom is basically allowing you to kill someone just for annoying you or being able to nuke a city because the people there violated the NAP by killing your child slaves, and you know that SMT players prefer chaos over law.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What freedom did armstrong want to rip away from me?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Freedom to be ruled under the boot of a wealthy family oligarchy that hates you and wants your kids to race mix or cut their dicks off.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You do realise those people will have even more power over you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          How? Those rich families control those governments to control the population.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon
            Who do you think is going to be able to afford a private army

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              just wait until the anon finds out he wouldn't be the one with nanobot augments and that in this world Jeff Bezos would just one day decide to rip his guts out and he could do nothing about it

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anon
              Literally doesn’t make a single difference. They already own the governments and their militaries.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I could actually get into why, but that's a waste of time.
                Sufficient to say you're a complete moron to the point you're likely a danger to yourself and others.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rich politician that is honest and has a band of honest side kicks is always going to be a god tier villain. If Joe Biden just came out and said "yea, we stole that election, what are you gonna do about it?" he will become an icon in no time. Either to hate or to respect. If politicians just said they worked for Israel first they would also get more respect from me.
    The "good old days of 9/11" line has stuck with many people because... for too many people one way or another 9/11 were good days. Maybe it is used for the Military Industrial Complex, but it shows honesty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly do not know if Americans even understand that a honest authoritarian regime is much much much better than a dishonest one. People in the SU knew for 100% that the government is authoritarian and decides everything and doesn't give a shit about their opinion or even them. They did not have to march and argue with other members of the general population if the government was an authoritarian one, or if they had democracy and shit. Everyone knew the way things are and everyone just knew that his/her voice does not matter.
      Today you have all the negatives of the SU but you also have to argue with other slaves about their slave status. There is no democracy but you have to argue with moronic femoids about democracy being good or shit. A honest authoritarian system will always give piece of mind to the slaves as they know that they are leaves in the wind and that they cannot decide shit.
      This is why I, a nazi, loves Stalin - because he just told the general population that he is the government and he is democracy - the whole of it. He votes for what is to be done and has all votes.
      Stalin and Armstrong would be very similar. Both would create a very survival of the fittest society which would produce mentally ill alcoholics that at least have children with moment hey beat. Today you have mentally gays with no children and mentally ill women with no children's.
      Cлaвa Cтaлинy, Cлaвa Apмcтpoнгy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >moment hey beat
        women they beat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >slav
        >nazi
        didnt hitler hate you guys?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Hitler also hated israelites but helped them establish Israel. He also hated them but never really removed a noticeable number of them bigger than 200k. Hitler is very good in the lore but in reality was shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >This is why I, a nazi, loves Stalin
        Because he was a ch*ld rapist right?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no. because of the power he was basically gigachat irl just like Armstrong.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >slavic nazi
        Don't even care that this is bait, it still never fails to make me laugh.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mid game.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can kill one but not the other

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    His reasoning is different.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      where's the immoral emotional ones

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's really charismatic about it and on paper seems "just and fair" but obviously it'd devolve into a good handful of the people he despises just coverting their old power into new power. Senator Boyfricker would probably just get a couple of their own cyborgs and metal gear to carve out a county where he can live like a king.
        However I think the point that wins most people over is he seems like he's 100% genuine, wants to win Jack over, and even loses graciously rather than going "BUT I'M THE FITTEST I SHOULD'VE SURVIVED"

        Prison

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"Imaginary evil is romantic and varied; real evil is gloomy, monotonous, barren, boring. Imaginary good is boring; real good is always new, marvelous, intoxicating."
    >Simone Weil

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    palworld politician?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because in the real life I can't be >rich politician in real life who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is bad and evil

    But in vidya I can be >rich politician in video games who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is based and redpiIIed

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Armsteong thinks that letting people do whatever they want and it will be fair and just
    >When he is a product wealth and connections
    >He doesnt realize that his idea would only widen the gap and make things worse
    Armstrong is a hypocrite

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesnt realize that his idea would only widen the gap and make things worse
      Of course he does. That's part of his pitch. He literally says the words "the weak will be purged."
      Who do you think "the weak" is in that phrase? It's anyone that's poor, anyone that's sick, anyone without the money and/or connections to be protected by or serve in a private militia.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So, anarchy. He just dressed it up in a nice suit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Libertarianism rather than anarchy
          The thing he doesn't outright say but knows will happen and doesn't care about is that all power will coalesce into the hand of corporate armies within months

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So...back to square one. His plan litteraly changes nothing.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              except with less oversight
              the US Army still is not beholden to men like Bezos or Musk, thankfully

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >so anarchy but dressed up in a nice suit
          More or less

          Libertarianism rather than anarchy
          The thing he doesn't outright say but knows will happen and doesn't care about is that all power will coalesce into the hand of corporate armies within months

          >libertarianism rather than anarchy
          Libertarianism is literally just anarcho-capitalism and/or neo-feudalism dressed up in a nice suit.

          So...back to square one. His plan litteraly changes nothing.

          It removes the one military that ostensibly is beholden to the public rather than money.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it's more than ostensibly, the US army wouldn't readily turn on it's own population in the same way say, Blackwater types would

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I only said ostensibly because there are some people out there that actually believe the US military is entirely beholden to private interests and/or that federal elections don't matter.

              What libertarianism always boils down to in any vertical is taking things that the government runs while answering to its voters and making them answer to shareholders instead.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Armstrong is a moronic version of Solidus
    >people actually listen to this fricking moronic maniac written like an afterthought of a MGS spinoff

    Its hilarious. Solidus already said everything this dude did but better.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because the fictional one also hates the government and bureaucracy and homosexuals and shecklesteins and everyone else who is annoying.
    if i'm gonna get fricked over, i at least want to see all of them get fricked over harder after all the horseshit they've gotten away with.
    and he's in a game with a good ost, real life politicians do not have cool osts. they don't even have any fricking charisma and can't even get a single thing done that they promise to do. armstrong is not owned by rabbis or globohomosexual old families either, whilst literally every politician in real life is.
    idk seems pretty obvious why people like armstrong and don't like irl politicians anon

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You are looking too deep into him. His ideas are no more than "hurrdurr im the american bad guy". Rising, plot wise, was the worst Metal Gear.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >still mogs skullface

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    kill all risinggays

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone always whines about the weak being purged, but do you know who Armstrong considered weak? Lawyers, bureaucrats, celebrities, the media. What are they? Influencers who get others to do the dirty work.
    Armstrong isn't respects the situationally weak because they can improve and overcome circumstance through their own merit. The weak are the ones who would never do that because they choose to make others do it for them. Those 'people' are the weakest of all, and he was forced to constantly interact with those types on his way to the top. His words came from a place of passionate, righteous fury. He knew they weren't fit to lead others, but he had to play their game all the same to try and make a difference.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t. gullible moron that thinks he wouldn't be the first person to get crushed under a boot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Forge your own path chicken-shit. If you can't, that's your own damn fault.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm a fighting age male in good health, I'm getting conscripted for sure.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      all you autismo turbonerds would be purged the day of, just like my homie Dolph did back in the day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Lawyers, bureaucrats, celebrities, the media. What are they? Influencers who get others to do the dirty work.
      Yeah that’s mainly what he means by weak, though people with his beliefs thec to have a distain for the “weak willed” that alllows such people to role over them and gain power in the first place, and those beliefs can easily warp into the idea that all weak people are just simply parasitic and lazy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you know that without bureaucrats society collapses right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >t. Bureaucrat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn’t change the fact that people hate bureaucrats and see them as out of touch, greedy and corrupt people that cares more about power then actually doing their jobs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn’t change the fact that people hate bureaucrats and see them as out of touch, greedy and corrupt people that cares more about power then actually doing their jobs.

        while necessary in this day and age you could always theorize that politics by proxy is unnecessary
        however its just like that one argument about communism
        >b-b-but its not been done right yet!
        and it never will be because the human mind is inherently selfish. looks good on paper but never works
        my point is that the modern day human cannot survive without being part of the cycle of exploitation. either you work for the exploiters to get by or you are an exploiter and enjoy the benefits of it
        refuse to do either and you'll find yourself outside of society with no influence on your own or others decisions
        then again you could just rob people or smth i guess lmao

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how often do you get to punch and slice said politicians in real life? you may find the answer to all of your questions in how the two scenarios you provided let you respond to said politicians

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He's honest about it

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We all voted Trump dumbass

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's the same reason that if I meet a complete butthole irl I'll think he's a complete butthole, but if I meet an npc like that in a video game I'll probably just find his dickery entertaining.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In Armstrong’s case, he makes a good point on the flaws of America and speaks about the true issues of the nation, and his goal to overthrow the system and his desire for people to take matters into their own hands and fight for what they believe in, is admirable, the issue that makes him the villain is his situation to the problem and his means to get to that situation which are horrible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And this, friends, is why populism works so well. This anon was so blinded by vague criticisms of the current system that he failed to realize Armstrong was talking about violently overthrowing the government and replacing it with corporate military-controlled zones.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Define populism

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A rhetorical strategy in which you portray yourself as a "man of the people" separate from the "out of touch elites" that run the country (completely ignoring the basic premise of democracy).
          If you do it right even the vague bullshit Armstrong spouted will attract people to you no matter how objectively horrific your actual positions and goals are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > A rhetorical strategy in which you portray yourself as a "man of the people" separate from the "out of touch elites" that run the country (completely ignoring the basic premise of democracy).
            I am pretty sure it’s going with what the people want which is a core principle of Democracy and the opposite would be goin with what the elites want tends to not benefit those beneath them, and at that point you might as well go back to feduelism.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I am pretty sure it’s going with what the people want
              You're pretty sure, but you're also pretty wrong.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >"every man will be free to fight his own wars"
    >whole cities turn into The Purge
    Well maybe people wouldn't go apeshit and kill each other just because the president said so in the MGS universe, but if that happened, it'd be a fantastic time for anyone to invade the US.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is good, good discussion about politics in games. Other thread, not good, there is people blatantly posting gay pornography.

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lets not forget the context of the setting, it's not like the America of MGR is the same as America of today. His PMC company is only one of the many big ones, all doing similar shit. It's an enormous industry and he's the only one at the time that can actually do something about it. Raiden himself becomes a renegade out to destroy PMCs, following after his footsteps.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Armstrong succeeding would mean the PMC's would rule the world.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So hypothetically, say everything goes exactly how he wants and everyone starts fighting as individuals and all the weak are purged and all that crap

    Exactly what is stopping China from just waltzing in under the guise of a peacekeeping operation and taking over the entire US?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Armstrong's theory is that the surviving americans would all be level 100 musou characters by then

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lets say Armstrong gets his way
      >what stops china from taking over the US
      The PMC's that got there first.
      The US would just get carved up by PMC's who would do the same to every other world government

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Mexican cartels would carve up the south

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He probably assumes that the average citizen at that point would be willing and strong enough to just punch the Chinese to death.
      And knowing him he might actually just willing to launch nukes just to make the world basically fallout but with cybernetics and metal gear.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >rich politician in real life who hates me and wants to strip away or exploit my freedoms or have me killed is bad and evil

    Poltard going on about Biden again

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