Route 1, home

Route 1, home

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    God, I fucking despise kalos.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    shite game

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hahahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically, yes. One of my favorite things to do when XY came out was explore route 1 and check out how the world felt in 3D.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >explore route 1
      You mean enter it and immediately see the entire short path?

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    omg sooo much nostalgia for this route omg so cozy

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >comfy introduction to 3D as your adventure starts
    soul.....

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least it was before Z cancellation fucked everything up.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you can't cancel something that was never going to be made.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Z cancellation
        GF never planned on making third installment for XY to begin with.

        Yeah, I think they did at one point early on, but they KNEW that they'd get more shekels if the pumped out another gen with a sequel rather than just one third version and having to wait until the Switch released.

        we know for a fact from internal documents that there were 2 more kalos games. probably XZ and YZ

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >we know for a fact from [FANFIC]

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >internal documents
          Let me guess, inside of your mind?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >internal documents
          Let me guess, inside of your mind?

          >we know for a fact from [FANFIC]

          I don't know about 'internal documents' but this theory comes from one of a few gaps in the numbers the games use to keep track of which games pokemon are caught in. X through to Omega Ruby are numbered 24 through 27 respectively, with a two digit unused gap between Omega Ruby and Sun at number 30. It doesn't provide proof any kind of significant development but does lend credence to the idea that two more potential games at least made it to the concept stage.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Z cancellation
      GF never planned on making third installment for XY to begin with.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I think they did at one point early on, but they KNEW that they'd get more shekels if the pumped out another gen with a sequel rather than just one third version and having to wait until the Switch released.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and having to wait until the Switch released.
          Why the fuck would they do that? The DS got 2 generations on it. It would be weird for the 3DS to only have 1

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      We are never getting a third version ever again

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    somehow still better than SwoShie

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >remove route 1
    >the game still has 3 more routes than BW and all of them are more complex
    lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      compare Routes 2 and 3 in XY to Route 1 from BW, dumbass

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they're more complex
        thanks for proving my point

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        BW route 1 has an entire sub area that you can retroactively explore.
        >But that's technically part of another route!
        The fact is you need to pass through route 1 to reach it, there is no other way to do so.

        Black and White had soul. It felt like every single route offered you a unique option for exploration, and the game encouraged you to go back to previously explored locations to discover secrets that weren't available to you earlier in your playthrough.
        The 3D era is yet to offer us that level of retroactive exploration. Routes are now one and done locations with no reason to revisit them apart from catching a Pokemon you may have missed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        XY route 22 has an entire sub area that you can retroactively explore.
        >But that's technically part of another route!
        The fact is you need to pass through route 22 to reach it, there is no other way to do so.

        X and Y had soul. It felt like every single route offered you a unique option for exploration, and the game encouraged you to go back to previously explored locations to discover secrets that weren't available to you earlier in your playthrough.
        The 2D era is yet to offer us that level of retroactive exploration. Routes are now one and done locations with no reason to revisit them apart from catching a Pokemon you may have missed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >we know for a fact from [FANFIC]

          >internal documents
          Let me guess, inside of your mind?

          Stop denying and open your eyes

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Comfy

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Le route 1 in Kalos is useless!!!!

    Fucking idiots, this was there just to showcase a couple things.
    1.-First mainline fully 3D game, it's a way for you to "step onto the new gen"
    2.-To show you that the is an auto-camera that can change the viewpoint depending on where you're standing

    If you don't think this is important, then fuck off, and no, I'm not a Kalosperm, I'm a Hoennfag

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3d is absolutely disgusting in kalos, especially the overworld models of characters
      >auto camera is disorenting and worthess, especially in lumiose
      wow they've surely shown off two great features ot this videogame.
      practice>theory

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>3d is absolutely disgusting in kalos,
        prove it

        >>auto camera is disorenting
        I love it when XY detractors always immediately prove they have low IQ

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So you never forget anything ever and have never had to turn around to go back somewhere? Or got distracted by something and passed an exit?

          >WAAAAAH THE NEW MARIO GAME IS BAD BECAUSE A GOOMBA IS HARDCODED TO BE THE FIRST ENEMY
          the straws people need to grasp to pretend XY is bad is hilarious lmao

          So in the game with random encounters and way more Pokemon on every route than usual, they decided that they wanted to show a single Pokemon that wasn't even new to the game? Or if they wanted to do it, make it super non-organic because they clearly don't care about interrupting you since your rivals consistently do that, especially in the early parts of the game.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they decided that they wanted to show a single Pokemon that wasn't even new to the game?
            Yes, why not?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well, let's look at some previous Pokemon games first routes to see what the precedent is.
              >Kanto Route 1 has entirely new Pokemon since it was a new video game
              >Johto Route 29 has a variety of Pokemon new and old, including one that's practically exclusive to the route and one based on the new time mechanic. You could see Pidgey first, but Sentret is also very common.
              >Hoenn Route 101 is entirely new Pokemon because Hoenn front-loads a lot of new Pokemon, you hardly see any before the first gym
              >Sinnoh Route 201 is entirely new Pokemon, get used to seeing them though
              >Unova Route 1 is entirely new Pokemon, much like the entire game, but didn't let you catch a bird because of a type matchup tutorial that fucking SM did better
              Aside from Gen 2, which technically had a thematic reason to throw in older Pokemon, it's been exclusively new Pokemon available on the first route, and even in Gen 2's case there's still a good chance you'll find something new. Let's even look at some other Pokemon games, just to see what else there is going on.
              >Alola Route 1 has a wide variety of Pokemon in the different patches of grass, usually with similar encounter rates unless it's a specifically rare encounter
              >Galar Route 1 has entirely new Pokemon in the visible encounter, and only 2 Pokemon from previous games in the limited random encounter pool, neither of which are the most common and one of which I would say is rare
              Kalos is the outlier, and looking at the actual encounter rates on the route, the new Pokemon do have a higher rate than the older ones. The only reasons I can think they'd want to do it is because Pidgey is the second rarest encounter on the route which seems a bit lame given it's not great in general, specifically fucking over Nuzlocke players which seems insanely petty and unlikely given how new they were at the time, or Gen 1 pandering which is oddly baffling but maybe Gen 5 really freaked them out. If you have a better reason this I'd love to hear it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ok

                now point out where the bad part is

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well, new players wouldn't know any better either way, but the expectation for older players is that they'll have a chance to see something new and exciting. While Pidgey was definitely absent from brand new titles for over a decade, the oldest players or anyone who has played FRLG or HGSS has probably seen it before. Furthermore, there's the Nuzlocke example, in yet another example of Game Freak kneecapping weird challenge runs for arbitrary reasons. I dunno if it's bad, but it's certainly not good and I'd argue it's a waste of development time that could have been used on something else, but it was also probably trivial enough that it probably didn't effect things much either way. I guess the question is, what good does it do for every single person who plays XY to get exactly Pidgey as their first encounter? Especially in a game where one of the major ideas is building your own team.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but the expectation for older players is that they'll have a chance to see something new and exciting.
                But they do get to see something new and exciting by playing the game. You know there's an entire rest of the game behind the Pidgey, right? What kind of dumbfuck argument is this? It's like criticizing Splatoon 3's campaign because it starts off as a rehash of Splatoon 1 and 2 campaigns before it spins off into its own thing or criticizing Smash Ultimate because you start with just Kirby and need to unlock every other character.

                >b-but muh fanfic challenge runs
                literally who cares

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >criticizing Splatoon 3's campaign because it starts off as a rehash of Splatoon 1 and 2 campaigns before it spins off into its own thing
                But you could do things other than the campaign in Splatoon 1, did they force you to do that in Splatoon 3 or 2?
                >or criticizing Smash Ultimate because you start with just Kirby and need to unlock every other character.
                I haven't played Smash Ultimate, and even I know you're very wrong with how character unlocking in Ultimate works. Or are you talking about World of Light, which is an entirely separate mode?
                Furthermore, it's rare for JRPGs at all to have a set first random encounter, which brings up the question of why it's good in the first place.
                >literally who cares
                Well, the best I can gauge this with is Youtube views, and given that some of the most popular results for XY Nuzlocke were sitting at nearly 2 million, I'm going to hazard a guess and say at least a million people care. So 1/16th of XY's sales, or 0.0625%. That's barely statistically significant, but it is in fact statistically significant. People do genuinely care about that kind of weird shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, checking ORAS, it doesn't use the forced first encounter, but it does use the 100% catch rate for some reason. So they didn't even have the faith to keep using this idea past one game, which says to me even they thought it wasn't a good idea. If Mega X and Mega Y ever got made, I wonder if they would have removed it or just copypasted it, or replaced Pidgey with anything. Who knows, SM needed the work anyway, whatever.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >But you could do things other than the campaign
                Like XY, yes.

                >I haven't played Smash Ultimate, and even I know you're very wrong with how character unlocking in Ultimate works
                Play the game.

                >t's rare for JRPGs at all to have a set first random encounter
                So? You still haven't explained why it's bad.

                >b-buh my youtubers can't change their fanfic playthrough because they're autistic!
                no one cares

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Like XY, yes
                When do you unlock the ability to do anything else?
                >Play the game
                I don't feel like downloading it on my Switch, but doesn't it start with the Smash 64 roster instead of just Kirby like you claim?
                >So? You still haven't explained why it's bad.
                And you haven't explained why it's good either
                >no one cares
                What if I care?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looking into it further, you also have access to all DLC characters, not to mention if you go straight for Classic Mode even with just the original 8 being playable you can get into some different matches (notably, the Pikachu route would have characters you hadn't unlocked yet on it, which is interestingly thematically related to this while argument).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you think pidgey being the first encounter was good? There's no way you don't with the way you've been arguing all thread. People have definitely laid out why they don't like it and thus could be considered bad to them, but you haven't actually given a reason why it's good, you just dismiss the arguments out of hand like a gay without an actual leg to stand on.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, even your World of Light comparison doesn't exactly hold water, Kirby is the "starter" of that mode, with 4 whole options of characters that you can pick. None of them are strictly new though (even if you want to make arguments about how different they play compared to Smash 4, which I won't), but at least it's an option rather than just one first choice.
                Hell, now that I think about it, even Colosseum hits you with a choice fairly early, and it's antithetical to most of the rest of the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >with 4 whole options of characters that you can pick
                no

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Route 1 should've been annexed into the town.

            >So in the game with random encounters and way more Pokemon on every route than usual, they decided that they wanted to show a single Pokemon that wasn't even new to the game?
            I always thought it was them showing off how their old Pokemon were updated.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, but there's several other options. Pidgey isn't a bad one, Zigzagoon would have also been a good choice though. It's less rare on the actual encounter table, but if it was good enough for Colosseum then it's good enough for XY. Maybe they wanted to show off that Flying Pokemon fly now? Granted, Pidgey was one of those bird Pokemon that was flying even back in Stadium.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          as i provide examples, the reddit spacer cries out like a cultist
          >p-prove it!
          >l-low iq!
          >d-detractor!
          i just tell it how it is lil bro
          >verification not required

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Every fucking time. And then the 3D nugenfags wonder why they're the laughingstock of this fandom, with no one ever willing to take them seriously.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    X/Y had so much soul. Really built off of everything great about Gen V

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yep. I like how they put more triple and rotation battles into the game and made them challenging.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >so much soul
      Yes I love that scripted Pidgey as first wild encounter ever. Viridian Forest and Sabrina's dollhouse were amazing too very soulful and unique

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >WAAAAAH THE NEW MARIO GAME IS BAD BECAUSE A GOOMBA IS HARDCODED TO BE THE FIRST ENEMY
        the straws people need to grasp to pretend XY is bad is hilarious lmao

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >comparing a platformer that consistently uses a small number of enemies with specific purposes to a monster taming RPG that has always had a large changing roster of wildy different creatures
          >says others are grasping at straws

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >y-you're not allowed to compare game to other game because it reveals how fucking retarded my argument is!
            lmao

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So is Mario bad because the original Zelda let you go in multiple directions and meet multiple different kinds of enemies first?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So then you think Unova is the best game because it's linear and easy like the Mario, got it.

                anti-XYfags have to pull the most desperate straws out of their anus to try and pretend they have smart criticisms for the game

                I wonder which shitty youtube video had that as a criticism where ledditors feel the need to parrot it and pretend it's a good point

                So why do you want the game to lie to players by making it so that Pokemon on Route 2 can't escape from Pokeballs? Seems like an odd thing to do to make the game easier.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. Mario isn't linear, but you're a zoomer who's probably never played a single classic mario game so I'm not surprised
                2. Mario games have far better difficulty than unova

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >gloating about playing mario
                man i'm not even that gay you're replying to but that's some shit you're smoking

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mario isn't linear
                I played SMB1, it's very linear. Skipping areas doesn't make it nonlinear, since it's the same line just with parts cut out. Did you think I was talking about every Mario game?
                >Mario games have far better difficulty than unova
                Maybe, I haven't played the modern ones, but I remember SMB1 being easy when I was a kid. Maybe I was just great at video games, which might also be why I think Unova was easy.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nta but what counts as nonlinear to you?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                SMB3 probably would, yeah. I thought we were talking about the first Mario though, so whatever. SMB2J also has wack shit like sending you back levels and optional levels in general, but it's also made for insane people so I'll just let them have that. I haven't played much of World, but that not only has two levels available at the start, but no Goombas at all, so even that game disproves a lot of what he's talking about.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The lost levels one?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, SMB2J is basically equivelent to the second quest from the original Zelda, weird shit that they expect you to be able to handle after beating the fairly easy original. SMB2J doesn't force you to walk through walls though. Or at least I don't think it does, I never got that far on any version aside from the GBC one, and even in that case they removed shit like the wind.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          we don't need to pretend XY is bad, we know it is

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes I love that scripted Pidgey as first wild encounter ever.
        How is this even a criticism? Who cares?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          anti-XYfags have to pull the most desperate straws out of their anus to try and pretend they have smart criticisms for the game

          I wonder which shitty youtube video had that as a criticism where ledditors feel the need to parrot it and pretend it's a good point

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes I love that scripted Pidgey as first wild encounter ever
        holy shit was a gay. these games have actual flaws but this isn't one of them

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    X is the only game I’ve completed a national dex in, and while it’s far from perfect I love it for being my last comfy Pokemon experience

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only took 3 days to do via the GTS.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Arceus bless that particular GTS bot.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was a bot?
          I remember I wanted to complete the Nat Dex for the first time before ORAS came out, and GTS just seemed to work for it.
          eventually missed a Volcanion event and never recovered from that

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being triggered by fucking Pidgey of all things.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I unironically would pay 20/30 euros for a remastered (not a remake) of Gen VI and VII on the Switch.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can play them in your phone at whatever resolution you want right now. For free.

      They look better than whatever shit gamefreak would release considering the switchs trash tier hardware.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >literal filler route straight out of the gate

    Oh nonononono

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Route 1 sets your expectations for XY by being totally empty and making you wonder why it even exists.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good. That's an accurate representation of the rest of the shitty game.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who defends Kalos route 1 is baiting.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay okay guys. Lets stop pretending that XY was good, okay? That would be bad for future installments. Lets give a clear image to GF on what is good and what is terrible. Unfinished game is terrible and they can't get away with it all the time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Unfinished game is terrible and they can't get away with it all the time.

      You guys seem to apply these standards without much consistency.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >some level designer got paid to make a route that is a straight line

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kalos fags are just as bad as hoenn fags by this I mean they always hype up their shitty gen. Gen 5 would have been flawless had it had some fucking ribbon for your pokemon after beating the league

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