>RPG or MMO has a Bow class. >it's the worst DPS by far

>RPG or MMO has a Bow class
>it's the worst DPS by far
Why does this keep happening?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    but best pvp class

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's a great fricking question and I'm glad someone is pointing it out. Archer is my favorite class and it's somehow shit in every MMO, the frick is up with that??

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I assume it has to be the kind of dps role tries to achieve. Its only "good" when its the only Range weapon, but when you add things like magic, crossbow, rifle, psychokinetic, A LASER CANNON, etc, you kind of get the point of all this.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because by stripping down the class that can play at range, they pretend like they're making some kind of impactful balancing, when its never the case. It's always that they're stripping any ranged class down so they don't have to balance it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >

      That's a great fricking question and I'm glad someone is pointing it out. Archer is my favorite class and it's somehow shit in every MMO, the frick is up with that??


      >Because common sense.
      weapon forces you to get close to the target at massive risk, take lots of damage and be exposed in the process
      >>If a ranged weapon does as much damage as a melee weapon but with none of the risk, it is a straight superior option
      >Melee has to do more than ranged or else Melee is obsolete. There has to be a trade off somewhere for the power that being ranged provides. You can give them some other obnoxious draw back for having the same damage, like low movespeed or having 5 HP instead of 10,000 or whatever, but PvE players only give a shit about DPS and everything else barely matters to them so that is where it tends to be balanced.
      >All the morons in this thread like can't even understand that ranged doing lower damage is the most effective way to balance them.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ragnarok Online

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bows and/or archers are pretty good in Monster Hunter and Dragon's Dogma.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're trading safety for damage you fricking moron.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're paying for the convenience of range, aoe and depending on the game, low mana costs.

      >range
      >mage, gunners, gadgeteers, scifi user, psychic all, and even THROWERS laugh in range, damage, and AoE

      >bow
      >AoE
      >AOE

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah you're moronic and you refuse to provide actual examples of any game because you'd be BTFO'd immediately by pointing out the tradeoffs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Any DnD game
          Magic wins while Bows are shit
          >Hero mmos like City of Heroes, Champions Online, and DCUO
          Bows always falls behind compare to all other range option.
          >TERA
          Gunner is just better. Don't bother @ing me for PvP
          >MH
          Both Gunners rape Bow while having limited ammo capacity
          >FFTA
          Gunner can Ultima shot across the map while the Ranger variant is just infinitely worse
          >GW1
          Bows are shit and psychic user (Mesmers) trump range in both game modes
          >GW 2
          See GW 1, but also add in most Mage class in general

          There are way more examples but I won't bother. Bows are shit in general.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Any DnD game
            Have you tried winning initiative? You should do so eaily with high dex. Also ranged shits on melee so hard in action ecoonomy it isn't even funny.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sorry man Arrow Rain will exist for every single archer class in every single game and theres nothing you can do about it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those are usually shit. Meanwhile, Mages and Tech users could just nuke the same area without a sweat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because seething melee cucks are like this and

      >[...]
      >Because common sense.
      weapon forces you to get close to the target at massive risk, take lots of damage and be exposed in the process
      >>If a ranged weapon does as much damage as a melee weapon but with none of the risk, it is a straight superior option
      >Melee has to do more than ranged or else Melee is obsolete. There has to be a trade off somewhere for the power that being ranged provides. You can give them some other obnoxious draw back for having the same damage, like low movespeed or having 5 HP instead of 10,000 or whatever, but PvE players only give a shit about DPS and everything else barely matters to them so that is where it tends to be balanced.
      >All the morons in this thread like can't even understand that ranged doing lower damage is the most effective way to balance them.

      Because by stripping down the class that can play at range, they pretend like they're making some kind of impactful balancing, when its never the case. It's always that they're stripping any ranged class down so they don't have to balance it.

      very true

      but best pvp class

      only good games do this

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're paying for the convenience of range, aoe and depending on the game, low mana costs.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think Bowmaster(?) was top dps in Maplestory before that game really jumped the fricking shark. I think before the Pink Bean patch for English at least. Although they had such a naruto boner for fricking assassins, they might have been better. I still remember that I gave a guy I met on some game forums and became IRL friends with my almost max level character, i think he wound up getting it to like level 195.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dexless sins with optimized gear were technically the best DPS, but yeah Bowmaster was still the overall pick.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ranged class
    >no cast time
    >usually more mobility
    >background is usually “a scout”
    Gee I wonder

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    RF did bow class better than any mmo out there

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because ranged should never be anywhere near the best damage dealer, otherwise melee has no reason to exist. Ranged is safer, easier, more convenient etc... If they made it get 1 shot, shitters would cry (no being slightly squishier isn't even remotely enough of a downside), So the only logical thing to hit is the damage output. You don't want another Monster Hunter or Dragon's Dogma 1 situation where melee has no reason to exist, since ranged is objectively better in every measure, on top of being easier to play for no reason.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AION version of a bow class was really fun.
    >Massive burst, dedicated mage killer with silence but can frick over melee too with a sleep + traps that can bind, blind, and snares
    >Access to lv1 invisibility so they can ambush or flee

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw MMOs are dead unless you want to play Final Fantasy or WoW
    Say what you will about asiatics, but I miss the golden age of KMMOs. Even if they were all P2W trash, they all had huge populations and offered far more variety than the current market.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play Dofus

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so old you used to be able to play it on Miniclip
        How's the population right now? Is everyone concentrated in the endgame zones like every other legacy MMO?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You missed the boat. The re entry point of Dofus was classic, and mono servers before that. Wait for the unity remake this coming summer/winter.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It depends on timezones and your ability to stand French players. The mono server is packed during French prime time and it's easy to find players to group. Without the French it may be harder. The player level spread is surprisingly good, as I see people recruit for low and mid level dungeons. Also helps that there's many quests involving dungeons and people like to get achievements they don't have even for old dungeons.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >*ultima mashers you from halfway across the map with perfect accuracy before you can even move*

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because devs probably think magic or the more melee dps oriented classes are more interesting and spend more time making those more fun and rewarding.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just play Skyrim if you want to be an OP archer.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >RPG or MMO has a bow class
    >it's the best DPS by far
    Double Strafe was a mistake.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RO was designed by morons who don't even understand their own game and made a dozen spin-offs that never got the same level of success. RO despite it's flaws is incredibly endearing with it's graphics, combat and soundtrack hard-carrying the game.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When magic missile exists there's not much point to archers.

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