>Ruins Ash's dreams. >Doesn't enter the champion's tournament. >Refuses to elaborate. >Leaves

>Ruins Ash's dreams
>Doesn't enter the champion's tournament
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
What was his fucking deal?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Edgier than grim darkwood

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He was literally created to blue ball ash and the fans.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His entire purpose was as a device to stop Ash from becoming a champion. In the grand scheme of things, he's entirely irrelevant. Basically isn't even a character.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Darkrai Gijinka
    Maybe it was a Mew or Darkrai shapeshifting

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He'll appear in the last episode, Ash will challenge him to one final rematch and he'll send out an Arceus that wins 6-0 before he leaves without explanation

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Jobbed to the E4
    Or
    >Jobbed to Cynthia
    Or
    >Too much of a pussy to challenge either
    Ash won in the long-run.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the only way Ash "wins" against Tobias is if he never fights him in the first place
      holy kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ash won a mini-tournament where every single active champion (except Paldea) was present.
        Tobias is not relevant, seeing as how he isnt Sinnohs champion

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >T-Tobias is not relevant
          LMAO. Cope. A better excuse would be no legendaries were allowed in that tournament

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ash beat 2 "legendaries" back in AG/BF
            And then again 2 in DP
            and 1 in SM

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >ash beat 5 legendaries over the course of his entire 20+ year journey
              >could barely even beat Tobias' one, let alone his remaining FIVE in a single go
              kek I dont know what youre trying to prove anon but okay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DP Ash wasnt even E4 level
                current Ash is champion level

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And what happens if Tobias has ALSO improved since then?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How was he not DP level when he was directly coming off of beating 7 E4 tier trainers right beforehand?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                DP Ash got destroyed by Flint (an E4)
                Frontier Brains are not E4 level in the anime (maybe not in the games either)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Frontier Brains are not E4 level in the actual
                Yes they are. Enishida says "There are people as strong as Kikuko in the Battle Frontier".
                > maybe not in the games either)
                Don’t know about the rest but Palmer is as strong as Cynthia and they both share the same Champion theme

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Don’t know about the rest but Palmer is as strong as Cynthia and they both share the same Champion theme
                holy autism

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tobias appears
    Ashkek

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get what this image is trying to say.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        taking the piss of coma theory

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That was originally about Captain Tsubasa. It only spread from there.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What was his fucking deal?
    I think he was the manifestation of the writer's sense of how bullshit it was that they had to keep the journey going for Gen 5. Everyone realizes he was due for a victory, a retirement, and that it was time to make room for a new protagonist for the franchise.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    arceus's angels must earn their wings in battle

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shoulda showed up at the end of Masters 8 and sweeped both Ash and Leon

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's coming back in the final episode to invite Ash into a secret league beyond that of the standard E4.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smogon banned him

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why didn't he appear in Journeys?
    I'm sure people would've loved to see Ash clearing a full team of Legendaries.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Paul, Alain and Gary (who arguably isn't even a rival) showed up in JN. There was no reason to try to cram in yet another old rival.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Asspull to make sure Ash doesn't win, in more modern gens like 6 a CHARIZARD would've been used instead.
    He makes me wonder if there are just really strong trainers out there that don't even bother with the official league anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ash's Charizard hasn't even been used much recently dipshit

      And he should've been used against Tobias

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean't that Ash would've jobbed to a CHARIZARD instead of legendarys if it was a more recent gen.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And he should've been used against Tobias
        i too wouldve loved to have seen chariTARD job to a legendary yet again

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why were people pissed about this?
    Being beaten by some mystery man with literal legendary Pokemon is much better than losing all the losers Ash lost to before DP

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