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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dead game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you fix it, they will come

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      undead game

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you fix it, they will come

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp

      cant wait for when all these fricking losers go right back to the game after 2 days

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dead game
      you've been saying that for 7 years. Whens it actually gonna die and stop racking up 400 replies on Ganker and /vg/ every day?

      The charts say 100'000 but the actual playercount is around 25,000. And more would come back if it was fixed. That might be a couple thousand more, or a couple hundred more. But think. 25'000 people is a lot. you could play it forever and still meet new players.
      It's not fricking dead. But it is dying.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kill the bots, bring back public sprays and stop making hats and metal tradeable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      real

      You homosexuals are more annoying than the bots plaguing this game. Please shut up.

      dead game

      die

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    move on

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You homosexuals are more annoying than the bots plaguing this game. Please shut up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this comic is stupid. I like tf2 and play it from time to time but doing the same thing as last year that didnt do anything is stupid, non the less from modern valve. In which VA's are old, dev team is dissolved, and even if they locate people to work on tf2. I highly doubt they would be able to keep the spirit of tf2. additionally tf2 community now is just constant arguing that goes nowhere. Just some people that keep yelling every interesting sidegrade is overpowered.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >critisizes comic
          >but actual problem is he doesnt believe in the movement
          TF2 has stayed huge and popular for 17 years, WoW has stayed in business close to that and charges subscriptions. If you fix the problem it will stay as a champion for f2p and fps games in general.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If they simply removed the bots things would be exponentially better.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think bots are more of a signal of the total failure of matchmaking than they are an actual problem in and of themselves
            I do not think there is any actual long term solution to bots that is not the removal of matchmaking. Competitive matchmaking can stay, what the frick ever, nobody uses it because comp slackjaws aren't interested in Valve's "anything goes" rulesets with crits and shotgun spread allowed and the vast majority of players aren't interested in comp. If it gets botted to hell and back as the sole remaining matchmaking service, that would be a huge numbers boost to comp, and Valve can pretend it was a success and it only took ten years. But casual matchmaking has to go and be replaced with a NO FRICKING MONETIZATION WHATSOEVER, NO PINION, NO DONATIONS, NOTHING quickplay system including Valve's own vanilla servers, it has to be replaced with the community servers option as the default game method again, something. Casual matchmaking has no future.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How does returning to the old menu and matchmaking system fix the bots? Yes, it was better, and yes MYM screwed over community servers, but I don't see how the old way would stop the problem. Unless the bots are implimemted by someone who's "master plan" is to make only community servers playable it doesnt fix the problem, it just covers it in rhinestones

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Community servers incl. vanilla servers added to Quickplay back in the day are immensely more capable of getting rid of aimbots through their much more attentive administration (even admins that ghost their servers are more caring than Valve is towards the bot crisis), VAC has always been a joke, the aimbot crisis is mainly predicated in weird teenagers trying to control the game by making its primary approach-funnel unplayable. Either a return to the previous Quickplay system or reverting to full player control of all servers except vanilla Valve servers and full community presentation as the main approach-funnel are the only solutions that make any sense to me, because the community is far, far, far more capable of actually dealing with any bot crisis on its own than Valve is. Valve should not have control over the main approach-funnel of the game. They are not willing or not able to caretake it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Matchmaking was a downgrade, all source games had an excellent net play formula since the day one.
              Removing it was idiotic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Matchmaking was a downgrade, all source games had an excellent net play formula since the day one.
              Removing it was idiotic.

              I agree but if valve gave a shit they would have done that years ago. there are probably more players that never experienced the old ways than people who did

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        notice how none of the weeds are gone by the end of the comic

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In TF2's case the players cannot simply adress the weeds that is the bots.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >plant analogy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just kill matchmaking

        this 100%
        anybody complaining that people want tf2 fixed should be considered a deadlock or concord shill

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >my garden
        >my
        ????

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cute comic but TF2 fans are worse than AIDS by now and I wish Valve would do the right thing and pull the plug on whatever service is keeping your gacha alive.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cute comic but TF2 fans are worse than AIDS by now
          What on earth happened to make you think this? Which Hoovy pissed in your cereal?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Which Hoovy pissed in your cereal?
            It's not the critical mass of trannies, furries, underage, underage troonyfurries, and the groomers and sheeple that support them that make TF2's community shit, clearly it's just some worthless slot-hogging pacifist that's the sole reason why

            Cute comic but TF2 fans are worse than AIDS by now and I wish Valve would do the right thing and pull the plug on whatever service is keeping your gacha alive.

            posted that he did

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >trannies
              Welcome to gaming in 2020
              >furries
              Why are you here then?
              >groomers
              >sheeple
              So you dont dislike people who play tf2, you dislike some people and know they go on tf2? What kond of grocery store do you shop in, do you know the kind of people that shop there?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Welcome to gaming in 2020
                the fact you defend trannies is all I need to see to know this game isn't worth saving

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact you confuse diagnosis for endorsement tells me all I need to know about your interest in earnest conversation

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >trannies
              this is a peanuts adult "blahblahblah" point
              >furries
              always been there
              >underage
              always been there "underage hit critical mass after F2P" is the biggest, fattest cope this game has ever been subject to
              >underage troonyfurries
              "blahblahblah"
              >groomers
              /misc/ "blahblahblah"
              >sheeple
              redditor "blahblahblah"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                hes right, and you getting defensive is goofy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                His buzzword vomit isn't right, you are twelve years old.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >buzzword vomit because the correct words hurt my feelings

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                anon who plays mad libs with his posts all day and gets mad when anybody figures out he's trying to punch in the correct number-pad code for 50 (You)s

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                homie you're a 13 year old shitposting on a cartoon porn forum nobody is winning

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >s-shut up you 13 year old!!
                shut up moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >plebbitor seething anon mentioned trannies
                ah, the Ganker classic

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It's not the critical mass of trannies, furries, underage, underage troonyfurries, and the groomers and sheeple that support them that make TF2's community shit, clearly it's just some worthless slot-hogging pacifist that's the sole reason why

              Cute comic but TF2 fans are worse than AIDS by now and I wish Valve would do the right thing and pull the plug on whatever service is keeping your gacha alive.

              posted that he did
              Counterpoint, you are on Ganker

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This thread is compromised by bot hosters.

              >Save TF2, people!
              >Also don't forget to subscribe to us hehe :3

              THEY'RE LITERALLY DOING THE SELF-PROMOTION BULLSHIT AGAIN LMAO
              This is just another movement for dumbass YouTubers to bolster their names. This is cringe as all god damn frick.

              >t. 4000+ TF2 enjoyer.

              You are botters. Get out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alright you caught me. Yeah I run a botnet. For the lulz.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        From the thumbnail I thought it was dancing stick figures

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Has winnower stopped doing his work?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why don't you setup a fence around your garden and just snip the weeds everytime one appears instead of walking around the forest complaining you're finding weeds
        tf2 players would sooner stop playing the game than set up a private server and kick bots manually the problem is so easy to solve but they can't put it the slightest effort, daddy valve has to solve all their problems

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Valve went out of their way to strangle community servers even before MyM. Namely with contracts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oy vey iz mir!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >food analogy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick you

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OY VEY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        leftists are so disingenuous theyve never beaten this image

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But its already been beaten

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SO TRVE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fr, a blue archive thread died for this.
      Stop ruining the board you tf2cels

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I voted

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this time Valve will DEFINITELY listen to us and fix this ancient piece of shit of a game you’ll see

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But memes told me Gaben is a good guy

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't you valvetards have a new asshomosexuals to be manchildren in ?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the future will be glorious for tf2

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More bara porn will surely fix it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      disgusting, kys.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based, post examples.

      disgusting, kys.

      Cringe kys.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are worse and more annoying that femboygays.

        genuinely, have a nice day homosexuals

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Seethe troony. Ywnbaw.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >le troony argument
            lmao the gay polgay is mad

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >lmao the gay polgay is mad
              Prove it while I goon to bara.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is that the Hot Ones guy?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you had 14 years of support. Move the frick on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tf2 is the last holdout of good gaming.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, TF2 represents everything Ganker claims to love about video games

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That would be Lobotomy corporation, Library of Ruina and my favorite ludo kino game underrail.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the game that has a battle pass, microtransactions, crate gambling, tiered cosmetics, fomo cosmetics and bot issues is the last holdout of good gaming

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >battle pass, microtransactions, crate gambling
          pretty inevitable in the game industry. You can hate the fans for supporting it. I'm not too apologetic for this. this is like pointing out a nation's crimes. They all have skeletons in their closets. Doesn't mean tf2 isn't the most highly skilled and dynamic CLASS (not herohomosexual) shooter of all time.
          >tiered cosmetics, fomo cosmetics
          the only unforgivable things. But those are a more modern, pozzed thing. redditors need their fumos and status symbols
          >bot issues
          thats kind of the whole point of the thread. we want to save tf2.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Next TF needs to get rid of the comic shit and clearly enfore the rules. Nobody wants to play on a server full of autistic chuds (at least no normal person).

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is trans fortress 2 fixed yet

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >homies will cry about saving TF2 but won't REALLY get their hands dirty to accomplish that by giving CS/Dota the same treatment, flipping the protest into a smear campaign talking about how Valve are no better than EA now, or finding something in Steam/their hardware's infrastructure that could land them in hot water
    Buncha mutt pussies only ever heard of the march on washington growing up and have no idea how to really incite change

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What I dont understand is how bothosters are not found yet? They would get lynched

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They usually are found but nobody's interested in storming a teenager's house and Valve doesn't really give a frick. One of them took himself out by jerking off to CP in a library and getting arrested as I recall.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So its just so many people that hunting them down isnt working?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they probably live on some 3rd world counties away from 5 eyes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        massive majority of bot hosters are russian/turkish in origin (unsurprisingly)

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Again? You fricks always in need of saving

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well they barely fixed anything last time, they just changed that both team can vote at the same time and put a timer on how soon you can start a vote after entering a server. The situation is just as bad as it used to be.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >put a timer on how soon you can start a vote after entering a server
        and yet the bots can somehow ignore this rule, meanwhile regular players get fricked

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea sometimes that timer is bugged, sometimes as a player you can start a vote earlier than the timer

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lmfao, i cant wait for lmaobox to go back online, that will save the game.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought TF2 didn't need saving and that the bots are just a minor problem only brought up by enemies of TF2 trying to hurt the game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      who the hell told you that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every TF2 thread on Ganker

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are trolling you, install tf2 and play some casual games especially later in the night and see for yourself.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlock is the new TF2, TF2 is too problematic now, no female/overt queer characters, adding them to the game would just cause toxic gamer backlash so all support of TF2 is being pulled so queer affirming games like Deadlock get priority

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know youre trolling me but I cant take it

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Valve, please fix the problem even though we have no real solutions ourselves outside live mods

    Iv already said it once but I'll say it again.
    To get rid of the bots you would have to:

    1) destroy all custom everything basically. No scripts, no skins, no huds, no nothing. No changing cl interpol or whatever it is to get a leg up on people playing default settings. No jump scripts.

    2) be ok with a third of TF2 players being banned. If valve could even detect the cheats, they would end up banning a large majority of the remaining players as well. Tf2 isnt isolated from the hacking problems that affects every fps nowadays. Companies with just as much money as valve also have no solution to hackers, you are not special tf2tards.

    3) You are going to have to be ok with it killing every single TF2 item aftermarket. The shit runs on bots you know.

    Now maybe you morons can see why valve hasn't don't shit. Because doing anything kills the game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No one wants to face the music
      You all are going to get what you deserve
      Which is absolutely nothing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do we have an answer to this tf2bros?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I lived 10 years of this game without scripts to set a sentry with m3 or different numbers for different spy disguises. I can live without them if it fixes the problem of bots

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I mean it already got posted earlier

        I think bots are more of a signal of the total failure of matchmaking than they are an actual problem in and of themselves
        I do not think there is any actual long term solution to bots that is not the removal of matchmaking. Competitive matchmaking can stay, what the frick ever, nobody uses it because comp slackjaws aren't interested in Valve's "anything goes" rulesets with crits and shotgun spread allowed and the vast majority of players aren't interested in comp. If it gets botted to hell and back as the sole remaining matchmaking service, that would be a huge numbers boost to comp, and Valve can pretend it was a success and it only took ten years. But casual matchmaking has to go and be replaced with a NO FRICKING MONETIZATION WHATSOEVER, NO PINION, NO DONATIONS, NOTHING quickplay system including Valve's own vanilla servers, it has to be replaced with the community servers option as the default game method again, something. Casual matchmaking has no future.

        Community servers incl. vanilla servers added to Quickplay back in the day are immensely more capable of getting rid of aimbots through their much more attentive administration (even admins that ghost their servers are more caring than Valve is towards the bot crisis), VAC has always been a joke, the aimbot crisis is mainly predicated in weird teenagers trying to control the game by making its primary approach-funnel unplayable. Either a return to the previous Quickplay system or reverting to full player control of all servers except vanilla Valve servers and full community presentation as the main approach-funnel are the only solutions that make any sense to me, because the community is far, far, far more capable of actually dealing with any bot crisis on its own than Valve is. Valve should not have control over the main approach-funnel of the game. They are not willing or not able to caretake it.

        All Valve has to do is remove the moronic matchmaking system and let players run as server admins with the ability to issue permabans. Community servers already don't have a bot issue (well, not a cheater bot issue anyway). Casual simply needs to operate the same way

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong, fricking moron

          You have no idea how vm's work or the fact there are millions of steam accounts for sale for pennies.

          Community servers only work when it's active moderation, of which unless a mod is currently playing or it's a steamers server they are currently using, no one is doing shit because they do it for free, fricking moron.

          have a nice day.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TF2gays knowingly give their email and other personal information to some random petition online that they know nothing will come of

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i bet my balls that it's run by a bot hoster and cheat provider

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it was, I would love to be a fly on the wall and see the seething of whoever made that petition.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hah yeah I'm sure no one here would post their emails for the slight chance of something.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fully expecting the petition to cause every name on it to get leaked online or something

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >other personal information
      fake real name and your email, that's all they get rofl, chill discord schizo

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even Dane is done playing nice

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Screams please fix while not acknowledging any of the issues of fixing the problems
      This is why you get nothing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think Dane should be saying anything after the whole "leaked Deadlock" thing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remember to leave a negative review calling the Valve team Black folk

      >"I showed Deadlock through Discord to my friends to let them know how bad it is"
      Lol what a shitty excuse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dane is responsible for MYM

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Even Dane is done playing nice
      KEK, oh no, the troony worshipper is upset! quick, everyone drop what you're doing before he 42%'s himself! LOL

      >trannies
      Welcome to gaming in 2020
      >furries
      Why are you here then?
      >groomers
      >sheeple
      So you dont dislike people who play tf2, you dislike some people and know they go on tf2? What kond of grocery store do you shop in, do you know the kind of people that shop there?

      >trannies
      this is a peanuts adult "blahblahblah" point
      >furries
      always been there
      >underage
      always been there "underage hit critical mass after F2P" is the biggest, fattest cope this game has ever been subject to
      >underage troonyfurries
      "blahblahblah"
      >groomers
      /misc/ "blahblahblah"
      >sheeple
      redditor "blahblahblah"

      more troony worshipper tears, mmmm, so tasty!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dane is done playing nice
      he's too ꜱoy to get mad properly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >intead of asking nicely, we're going to ask nicely again
      It's like they don't even give a frick. No mental energy was invested into this shit, so why should Valve care either.
      I've seen one person suggest a solution, and I don't think any FixTF2 shit was even mentioned in the video
      What a pathetic movement

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's almost like, spamming twitter doesn't change anything. What if... they moved to tf2c? Or just stopped supporting tf2 financially.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Or just stopped supporting tf2 financially.
          This is the actual way to protest, given Valve's panic over the crate depression, but Weezy who is spearheading the current movement is too much of an MvM grinder to swallow his pride.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I joined in 2014 so I know exactly what this game needs

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    (425) 889-9642
    I called Valve. The 7 extension for Valve/Steam questions leads to a robot saying they dont have a phone support system and hangs up on you. 0 for general questions will beep as if starting a voice mail message. So I hit 0 and left a verbose but polite message advocating to fix TF2. In hopes that the message was recieved I want others to have the opprotunity to do the same. I heard the one person dressed as Spy at Valve HQ did more than the koombaya tf2bers did last time around, and even though I cant be there in person hopefully this helps the cause.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just kill matchmaking and make MVM full support and free, turn it into another coop and frick it.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ok for the last time, matchmaking isn't why the bots can exist, they can join community servers just as easy they just don't because more players use matchmaking.

    Now stop saying the removal of matchmaking is gonna solve anything, because it's not.

    >But community servers have anti cheat
    That still can't detect lmaobox they are so far behind. The only thing that works is a server baby sitter and that doesn't work most of the time because they don't care because they do it for free, it's not a job.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would run this homosexual over as he babbles something about a car crash in slow motion.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, fantasizing about killing children doesn't come off as unhinged at all.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm unhinged, b***h. I'm the craziest fricking berserker motherfricker you've ever seen. TRY ME.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You'd have to pull yourself out your chair first

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            don't get too excited there the doctor said it's bad for your greasy heart

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No fricking way LOL what a fricking beta

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do you expect some suburban kid to buy a plane ticket and fly to Valve personally?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Pretty sure someone did that last time. Also imagine sitting outside like that. The looks you'd catch.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hes protesting, he literally is trying to get looked at.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That kid's the exception, not everyone's got money to blow on trips like that. That is, if he even did all that as opposed to just living there and walking.
            >Also imagine sitting outside like that. The looks you'd catch.
            That's kinda the point. Do you want him to dress like he's going to church or something?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Im saying hes a homosexual loser. moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And you're some homosexual making fun of kids on some tranime imageboard. Don't call the kettle a Black person,

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok? What are you doing here then?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yep. I'm sure people from Shittingstown, Missouri care a ***lot*** about tf2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >not posting the real one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kinda based honestly. Takes balls to do stuff IRL.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why don't people just make whitelist servers?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >save TF2
    kill it for good so we get rid of all hatBlack folk

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you've ever financially contributed to live service slop you're just as complicit.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a complete flop so far

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just grief the bot owners' Minecraft bases?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am more surprised that idle bot owners aren't killing off the cheater bot owners since they threaten their bottom line.
    You would think people who would make over 60,000 bots will kick the ass of the people who made 1,000~ish spin bots.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you guys could do another weapon patch what would you do? I think a lot of my own personal changes would be reverting stuff valve has done over the years. It feels like a lot of weapons lost their identity in the name of balance or just had strange changes.
    The bison, shortstop, sandman, caber, panic attack, loch and load, etc.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bison
      Frick yes
      >Shortstop
      Frick yes
      >Sandman
      I've always been against any form of stuns in FPS, that said the current sandman is trash, there has gotta be a middle ground
      >Caber
      Frick yes
      >Panic attack
      On one hand yes, on the other hand I find it really fun to combo pyro with. You can get insane DPS from it.
      >Loch and Load
      Literally stems from the fact that they gave it three pipes which meant the damage bonus needed to be nerf.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For the sandman I think they should make it so that it only stuns at the longest distance for a couple of seconds, secondly, since the weapon is about actually batting stuff, they should add a "reflecting" mechanic to it: You swing at an incoming projectile and it gets sent back, with a 1~2 second cooldown so that scouts can't spam it. Maybe these ideas could make the health penalty worth it or maybe I'm just moronic.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Could just make balls reflect, but a successful bat consumes it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      righteous bison reversion
      shortstop either needs a new reload animation or it needs a faster reload, it's ugly as shit in its current state
      caber needs reverted, nobody cares about a suicide bomb against medics in comp
      panic attack imo is fine as a shotgun for sweaty autists that can't handle the thought of shotgun spread don't think too hard about how shotgun spread tends to tighten the cone rather than spread it out, it hampers shotgun damage for the sake of aiming consistency

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nobody cares about a suicide bomb against medics in comp
        you jest but market gardener was banned for that exact reason and it unironically takes more skill to use than caber

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          market gardening is way less risky than the caber and takes more skill to pull off, that one i fully get why it was banned. the caber less so since demoman is most probably dead if he lands a hit, and if he isn't he's either now defenseless in melee with a broken caber at 25 to 5 HP or he's dead from the fall damage incurred from landing. mostly it's a stall tactic for soft forcing the match down to 5v5 or 6v5 depending on whether the demo can even get close enough to suicide-bomb somebody

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay
    >pushes out update that kills all user/community hosted server functionality, instantly killing tens of thousands of idlefarm bots that ruined the steam marketplace economy beyond any hope of recovery ages ago
    >the game can now only connect to official Valve servers (which then will have an imminent shutdown deadline announcement to make way for the server capacity needed for their new game)
    >silently mark all items as untradeable and unmarketable a day before the announcement mentioned above
    >along with above, delete all crates and keys with no warning. All unused keys are refunded to the original payment method (i.e. stolen credit cards) used to buy them, not in steam wallet playmoney

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      with above, delete all crates and keys with no warning. All unused keys are refunded to the original payment method (i.e. stolen credit cards) used to buy them, not in steam wallet playmoney
      I know this is a joke but how would that work with Steam cards?

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is kinda depressing how many anons jump to defend Valve when it comes to the whole bot issue. I don't understand why, do people actually identify through multi-million companies?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm in the position where I won't defend Valve but think both of these... callouts(?) don't work when you are supposed to hit Valve in their wallets and drum up actual bad press.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Weezy in particular wants to be at the forefront of it but he's also completely mazed by MvM and he won't stop giving Valve money under any circumstances, so he's fighting his absolute god damndest to not suggest an actual boycott.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's amazing how little self awareness he has over that, considering he cited the WoW situation that ONLY HAPPENED BECAUSE PLAYER NUMBERS WERE DROPPING EN MASSE.
          His argument of
          >Oh that means Valve will just pull the plug
          Is just slimy bullshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well people are trying to make Valve look bad, it is the best way to make sure Valve does something.
        Even CS2 is full of bots.

        Are you telling me there are people sticking up for valve's inactions?

        Well people who first jump to say "it won't work, please don't do anything" etc. seems to be. Because there is nothing to lose with this. If Valve does something, that's good. If Valve does nothing, I'll just uninstall TF2, because I have no servers with fun map rotation to play, and MM will stay poop forever.

        Corporate apologists truly are disgusting, incomprehensible creatures. Just look at how many Gankertards jumped on to the Deadwiener train with the utmost shamelessness,

        Such is life in Ganker, anons loves some corporations bit too much. Nintendo, Sony, Valve, Microsoft...
        It is very strange. Don't understand what people get out of defending them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Don't understand what people get out of defending them.
          Definitely not money, or career opportunities, or early access to future projects. Surely there has to be something us normal people must be missing out on.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine being valve and reading "defended you guys on an internet forum" on a resume. That would feel like an insult in itself, that people needed to defend you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you telling me there are people sticking up for valve's inactions?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Corporate apologists truly are disgusting, incomprehensible creatures. Just look at how many Gankertards jumped on to the Deadwiener train with the utmost shamelessness,

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Seeing the amount of threads on that game is baffling. I like some of the character designs but the idea and overall feel of the game looks bad and yet you have people begging for it like it was the DOTA 2 beta.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People here will rave about ugly women in games but the Deadlock threads were surprisingly clean given how fricking ugly that game is. Especially the women.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bot issue is not valves, its the "TF2's community" fault for begging for MYM in the first place

      begging for kernal level anti-cheat is maximum homosexual behavior by a bunch of whiny children who refuse to run or play on community servers.

      Frick Cuckle Dane has his own community servers and he still whines that casual isn't fricking playable when the problem in the first place.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The bot issue is not valves
        >The bot issue is not valves
        Keeeek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >its the "TF2's community" fault for begging for MYM in the first place
        no major proportion of the community was asking for this you moronic newbie. It was CC's like DANE and compgays who pushed this shit system, and the zoomer homosexuals at valve who think all games need a "quickplay" button

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Downvoted

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They begged specifically for competitive mode, and that's what exactly they got in the beta. It was Valve's own hubris that lead to casual mode.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because MYM without casual killed the game harder than the current bot problem ever did and casual only stemmed the bleeding.

          MYM itself was the problem and MYM would be infested with bots today with or without casual options.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The bot issue is not valves, its the "TF2's community" fault for begging for MYM in the first place
        Who on this earth begged for MyM? It was Volvo chasing matchmaking shit. Nobody liked it at launch, and now people tolerate it because there is no other choice and people want to play at least somehow.
        >bunch of whiny children who refuse to run or play on community servers.
        No money or time to run/moderate a community server. Can't really get players either when advertising here is a bannable offense and people would find it just annoying.
        And no proper community servers in Europe.
        If you give me money, moderation team, and server services with good internet speeds, I'll happily run multiple ones for Europe area.
        >Frick Cuckle Dane has his own community servers and he still whines that casual isn't fricking playable when the problem in the first place
        Exactly, his servers are horrid tryhard nests which work exactly like MM TF2.

        I AT LEAST want the bots gone so I can play TF2 even in some capacity.
        Proper community servers would be fun, but I have no hopes for them in Europe, and connecting to US servers just gets you kicked or flamed, plus gives me personally guilt for the fact I'm taking up a slot from someone with proper ping and who isn't a complete ESL like me. Also being "bullied"(spammed and targeted the whole match) for speaking in vc with my horrid accent isn't the most fun either.
        The shitty matchmaking is my only option, even when it is so shitty. After botshit fix, I want casual to come back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What nobody understands (Or rather doesn't want to understand) is that Valve didn't let TF2 die, the players did.
      Valve spent millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man hours on Jungle Inferno, only for the playerbase to bump up by 20k (not including bots) for a week or two only to return to the same level it was before. In fact after the update there were LESS people on average playing throughout 2018. It was a massive money sink and a waste of time.
      People wonder why Valve is reluctant to do anything, well guess what, THEY DID. And it accomplished absolutely fricking nothing. These homosexuals had their chance already and they still did nothing. The biggest update in years and the momentum was lost.
      Flash forward years later and TF2gays are STILL pumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into the game buying keys for dogshit community hats in a constantly inflating map pool.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If Valve actually listened they would have reverted the most hated (Yes, even more than F2P, even Mannconomy) update that still plagues the game to this day.
        To see the backlash against MyM that still burned two years after the fact, and think some mid class update that fixed nothing in the end would magically turn thing around is ignorant at best.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Matchmaking is... LE BAD
          >Quickplay would fix everything
          Why exactly?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In a strictly theoretical example, quickplay would move people to human moderated user servers.
            In a real example, frick no, everyone would just get dumped into inceltopia.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >In a strictly theoretical example, quickplay would move people to human moderated user servers.
              That's ignoring that quickplay was introduced alongside and defaulted to valve servers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Could easily make a quickplay the sends players to both valve servers and approved community ones.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ... That's what we had before meat your match. You could check a box to join community servers that met specific criteria or join only valve servers.
                Then the question is, who is gonna host and moderate vanilla servers, what is the incentive for it?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No reason the quickplay can't introduce players to non-vanilla ones.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why yes I did specify the strictly theoretical best possible option.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Being able to join a Valve server instantly rather than waiting for a queue would singlehandedly solve half the battle.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >much harder for massive bot parties to organize
            >much more incentive for people to stay in those games since the server doesn't boot you out just to reload the same map making it more logical to just find a new game
            >by extension also not having a shitlaod of empty slots for people who joined by disconnected
            >able to actually join different teams so it balances out much easier and quicker
            >spectate allowing for people to much more easily look at cheaters
            I can go on but its comcial you are even trying to pretend quickplay isn't superior, its not a coincidence the moment meet your match happened the bot crisis also started

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody at Valve wants to touch matchmaking because the youtubers and comp community are fricking cancer, and also they don't want to accept ANY responsibility for completely eradicating the organic communities which they did FOR said youtubers and comp players.
          Like I said, the players let TF2 die.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The players didn't want matchmaking. Consulting esports trannies and retooling a fundamental part of the purely to appease them was a huge misstep on Valve's part.
            Remember, Casual wasn't known about until the update page came out. Most people assumed that matchmaking meant a ranked mode, and nothing more.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Half of Jungle Inferno had been developed for years, they were just waiting for the right time to drop it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We literally have the timeframe for it because the youtubers that were invited to beta test bragged about it.
          Same for all the matchmaking shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon literally the only times it's gotten bad was when that red haired gay made his shit video about how nobody was playing (and begged for bot hosters to annoy people) and TODAY, because the entire hive of TF2bers were throwing a fit encouraging moronic teenagers to host bots so Valve will le comeback and "fix" tf2 by nerfing some stupid shit a youtuber is crying about or "add new weapons" that said same youtubers will whine about IMMEDIATELY after release like what happened with Jungle Inferno.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >should valve be held responsible for solving persistent issues in their online game?
      absolutely for as long as they keep the pulblic servers up
      >will they do it
      frick no and you morons won't get it through your thick heads that valve doesn't give a frick because the problem isn't losing them any money and won't care about some shitty petition. Tf2 players could just move to private servers and basically kill the bot problem overnight but their stupid and lazy so they won't.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anon learns the average gamer is a moron
        How do you think matchmaking overtook server browsers in gaming in the first place?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it really is so dissapointing the way online games have shifted. Varied public and private servers were a great fix for finding ther right environment for how you wanted to play the game and now it's all built for the lowest common denominator with no options to pick otherwise.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          by server browsers being put behind menus if they're present at all, leading matchmaking to being the most readily obvious option that takes the fewest clicks?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nooooooo anon you can't point out that the User Interface was redesigned in a way to steer people away from the server browser!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              oh you're right excuse me *AHEM*
              CLEARLY THE ISSUE IS ENTITLED ZOOMERS ARE JUST moronS AND NOTHING DEVELOPERS DID HAD ANY IMPACT ON IT

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, part of the issue was that also that they ASKED for it to steer people away from organic user servers.
                At this point, mostly my issue is that letting people pick their own maps is pretty fricking moronic, and anything that isn't an alternative mode map is choked out since the easiest way to use the UI is to click in to "Standard Modes". With the gravity of people opting into specific maps like Upward and 2Fort slowly sucking people into a singularity of those maps.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they ASKED for it to steer people away from organic user servers
                Compgays asked for a ranked matchmaking mode specifically for them, not affecting the general playerbase. There was a beta with matchmaking only for competitive, with quickplay left alone. Valve then went a step too far with casual mode.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Compgays asked for a ranked matchmaking mode specifically for them, not affecting the general
                It's been 8 fricking years.
                Knock it off.
                This wasn't even the case back in 2011? I think it was, when Valve changed the stock hud so Hale's entire health could actually be displayed on the Hud instead of being truncated with an ellipses.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you will never be allowed to escape what you have done, compgay

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean yeah, I'm going to keep noticing when mge morons and compgays say stupid shit.
                Me being a compgay?
                Fat chance
                I've run wacky_races servers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                casual matchmaking is good
                every single server i can play on with good ping is full of trannies, furries, and tryhards
                you literally can't even say le bad word there because you get banned

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                correction, people asked for a comp matchmaking service and asked for quickplay fixes because the latter was stuffed with pinion and other MOTD spam ads including malware. nobody actually asked for casual matchmaking

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Matchmaking is always favored. Look at CS2. Look at L4D2. The majority of games are just vanilla campaigns or versus, casual/comp in CS2. It's shit but that's how it is. Meanwhile in Deep Rock there is no queue, server browser only. People actually play modded games there.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Correct. Between two options, the easier one will always win. Even if the small hassle of curating servers makes for an objectively better experience than standardized matchmaking.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Tf2 players could just move to private servers and basically kill the bot problem overnight but their stupid and lazy so they won't.
        Well actually this has been tried like 10 different times since matchmaking released and started causing problems.
        Every time the administration gets infested with troons and the servers implode on themselves or mysteriously, they start having connection issues.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >community gets filled with troons
          I understand this problem all too well. Still, there's enough of you that don't want that kind of environement that it shouldn't be too hard to get a server that doesn't kowtow to their ilk.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >multi-million companies?
      multi billion. microsoft is sniffing around for a potential purchase

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you want them to do?
      >Source code leaked multiple times, any effort spent to update VAC and ban cheaters will be undone in record time
      >free game means cheaters can come back all the time
      >making the game paid might work, but sales happen and game keys are easy to get for dirt cheap prices on different sites
      I've honestly just accepted that fps games had a time limit until cheaters took over and we've hit it
      a team of paid devs can never beat a group of hundreds of no life neets who can spend 12 hours a day undoing their anti cheat treadmill work

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cheats became as lucrative as they are because of esports. Once there was financial incentives to esports, it was over.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          why risk getting imprisoned when you can make a living flinging cheats to moronic kids and wannabe pros?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Two things that would cripple the botters
        >Remove text mode which currently makes it viable for a single machine to run hundreds of instances of TF2 effortlessly using VMs
        >Put the fricking server browser back on the main menu and start funneling people into community servers again

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No rebuttal

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Remove text mode which currently makes it viable for a single machine to run hundreds of instances of TF2 effortlessly using VMs
          already explained by shounic sadly
          you can run the game using cheat programs at the size of 1x1 pixel resolution
          its not text mode but with other cheats to lower graphics beyond levels available to players its almost as good
          >Put the fricking server browser back on the main menu and start funneling people into community servers again
          Maybe, but at this point, valve seems against removing casual mode despite how much harm its done, I think i heard them say that the code for the ad-hoc system literally doesn't exist anymore

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I think i heard them say that the code for the ad-hoc system literally doesn't exist anymore
            that doesn't make any sense
            you can still join community servers ad-hoc, all Valve would need to do is make it so their servers allow ad-hoc connections.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              not only that there's multiple source code versions of the game floating around the internet and *we know* both from that and from other valve leaks how anal retentive valve is about archiving their shit, it's a lame excuse no matter how it's sliced- either they deliberately deleted the code to have lost it, or they're lying about having lost it

              and either way retooling the servers into normal TF2 game servers, as they were before MyM, is an absolutely moron simple task

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    #killtf2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >simping for some heckin' wholesome chungus megacorporation to please le fix their own product we will eat up anyways
      >while the said corp is literally making goyslop: the game as we speak
      yeah only if le based god gaben heard your youtube hashtag campaign valve will suddenly start giving so much fricks lol

      tsmt. death to valve! death to shit fortress 2! allahu ACK-bar!

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fixtf2 is a movement created by youtubers wanting attention and children younger than tf2. i actually got bots to host cos of them

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=223007

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Team Fortress 2
      >National Brain Tumor Society
      heh

      I don't get this position, people still play Quake and Doom which are siginificantly older than TF2, but people are supposed to move on from TF2? Please have a nice day.

      On a technical level it's a bit different. Quake and Doom have open source engines and playing without any involvement of a company is pirating assets away. In that regard the Quake TF is more eternal than TF2. TF2 is still "Valve's".

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    MOVE. ON.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get this position, people still play Quake and Doom which are siginificantly older than TF2, but people are supposed to move on from TF2? Please have a nice day.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Valve will kill your homosexual hat collecting game and its hilarious, you will own nothing and will be happy will come true

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If TF2 actually dies I'll be sad, but I can at least load up the original Quake mod with bros to live good ol' times.

          Melee gets it too. People think its annoying to care about something you like. Nihilists, the lot of them.

          It's like, who cares? If I own an old game and play it, I own an old game and play it. If I want to play Pong, I will play pong and no one can tell me to move on.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Melee gets it too. People think its annoying to care about something you like. Nihilists, the lot of them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry snowflake, the party doesnt stop just because you dont care

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every time I see a tf2 fan they're either, racist, homophobic, transphobic, misogynistic or any other bad thing that exists on this green earth
    There's like very few exceptions
    I think tf2 is a cool game but it garners hateful people and awful human beings just by existing

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    valve doesn't care

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The tumors of gaming
    a TF2mor, if you will

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We have to h*ckin' #SaveTransFortress2 you guise!!!!

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He must be protected at all costs.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Y-YOU MUST SAVE TF2
    The play now button was added back in 2018 and you Black folk did not bat an eye. But ohhhb now that the game is filled with bots you suddenly want valve to fix tf2? Too little too late lil brownies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and you Black folk did not bat an eye.
      everyone hated it and asked for revert

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It was the only other time people review bombed the game. And it was 2016.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      but people did hate it the game got major negative reviews and people cried everywhere they could
      why are you talking about a game you obviously do not play Black person
      fricking morons like you are the worst scum of this board

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you frick off? I genuinely hope Valve shuts down your shitty game

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone cheats in this game. Valve doesn't care. This is no punishment for cheating, why haven't you taken the cheatpill yet?

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tf2 taught me that it's ok that some games get end of serviced. somethings just don't age well. tf2 is one of them

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely believe there's some form of Hat Maker/Youtuber cartel doing all this bot shit over the years, the effort is too consistent and constant to just be some random third worlder doing it for shits and giggles, there's no data breaching or deeper hacking going on. It's only spinbots and shit like that. Only things that make player experiences worse but never actually touch revenue sources or accounts directly. More importantly none of these bots EVER go to community servers, and you don't see TF2 YouTubers getting fricked with via DDOS and the like, making it all even more fricking suspicious, even most of the micspam and sound clips the bots play happen to be very YouTube friendly and not proper earrape or slurs, making them perfectly fine to record and milk for drama and video footage.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it is sus. we'll do some researching

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This literally happened with Titanfall 2 for more moronic reasons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Watch Zesty Jesus's new video (part 2 of the nobodys home video)
      He tracks the Idle bots down to try and join a game only to find out its a private server in Russia

      As for the cheaterbots mostly located in north America? I think its some Barnrygay or ChrisChan level Autist

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I think its some Barnrygay or ChrisChan level Autist
        The few we ever did find put about pretty much were that.

        This whole movement is such a fricking cope. MOVE THE FRICK ON.

        >MOVE THE FRICK ON.
        As in?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >As in
          Find something else to play. TF2 as a game is fundamentally abandoned by Valve.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Find something else to play.
            No I dont think I will.
            >TF2 as a game is fundamentally abandoned by Valve.
            Item servers still up. Pubs still up. Neither existed in 2007. I even don't mind the lack of big updates. Why would they pull th and truly abandon it is beyond me, it still makes them loads of money.

            What nobody understands (Or rather doesn't want to understand) is that Valve didn't let TF2 die, the players did.
            Valve spent millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man hours on Jungle Inferno, only for the playerbase to bump up by 20k (not including bots) for a week or two only to return to the same level it was before. In fact after the update there were LESS people on average playing throughout 2018. It was a massive money sink and a waste of time.
            People wonder why Valve is reluctant to do anything, well guess what, THEY DID. And it accomplished absolutely fricking nothing. These homosexuals had their chance already and they still did nothing. The biggest update in years and the momentum was lost.
            Flash forward years later and TF2gays are STILL pumping hundreds of thousands of dollars into the game buying keys for dogshit community hats in a constantly inflating map pool.

            >Valve spent millions of dollars and tens of thousands of man hours on Jungle Inferno
            Lmao
            >only for the playerbase to bump up by 20k (not including bots) for a week or two only to return to the same level it was before. In fact after the update there were LESS people on average playing throughout 2018
            Fricking hell. 20k people came back, saw that it still had glaring issues and abandoned the game? Fricking TF2 players, they killed TF2!

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When do you guys not need saving? Give it a rest already.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >does nothing
      >surprised when people are still talking
      Wow

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Save it yourself.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's a 17 year old game. Why the frick would you waste your resources and time on such an old game?
    Do you see any updates for Quake 3 Arena or Call of Duty 2 or whatever? Frick no, they're relics of the past that nobody plays anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People do play them, run their own servers, make their own custom maps.

      TF2 troonerzoomers don't even know there is a server browser anymore.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those games don't have shitty matchmaking ui concealing server browsers
        Don't kid yourself, nobody knows what a server browser is which is why things got this bad in online gaming

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >TF2 troonerzoomers don't even know there is a server browser anymore.
        we do, we just hate the current state of community servers
        >can't yell in the mic like a moron
        >can't use any weapon you want
        >class limits on many of them
        >no hate speech
        >can't talk to normal people without a troony breaking down in VOIP
        >dominate someone too hard and get kicked if they happen to be friends with a mod
        Nah lmao frick that. Enjoy your uncletroonpia, I'll stick to official servers thanks. FRICK community servers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          lmao people like you are exactly why valve doesn't take it seriously.
          you just want to spam Black person over the mic to people who aren't bots

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >People do play them, run their own servers, make their own custom maps.
        Same with Quake 3 Arena and Call of Duty 2. Still doesn't disprove my point that devs move on from old games. That's how technology has worked for thousands of years. Discard the old shit and use the new and more convenient stuff. Why do you think this wouldn't apply to video games also?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thats my point, TF2 should be run by the community but the community is begging for their dead ass game to be saved when they already have the tools to save it themselves and always will.

          They're all just concerned that their $500 burning unusual NFT hats are no longer going to be worth anything and they cant show off to gibus players on casual anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are so stupid it hurts, yes occasionally very old games get updated for the official devs and even if they aren't there are people that might still play them and why not make patches or new updates for them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do you see any updates for Quake 3 Arena
      Yes, constantly, because it's open source. Valve could take this route but instead they want to milk the playerbase with hats.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF2gays think valve should still be developing stuff on the game just because they pay for hats and shit lmao

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's it? Sounds reasonable.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking hate how all the "influencer" keep saying that we need to have a peaceful protest, laying out our complaints but never being hateful towards the devs or saying mean things. Frick that. People should be organizing an actual protest outside Valve's offices to shot them that real people actually care. "Fans" of TF2 should be angry over this, not just send out a tweet and then call it a day.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you save tf2 homosexuals so annoying?
    All the least likeable people are in this "movement", the redditors, the israelitetubers, the trannies, etc etc.
    Spamming the chat with your moronic petition, annoying unrelated communities and sites.
    You see someone with #savetf2 in their name and you JUST KNOW they're the most insufferable homosexual on the server.
    Same shit as free Palestine or Trans Rights, bunch of virtue signaling morons shoving garbage down your throat, fricking annoying homosexualS.
    have a nice day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can i get a tldr? I don't read tranime poster's meltdowns

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Same shit as free Palestine
      shalom rabbi

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Now that dane went out and admitted that he intentionally leaked deadlock out of protest I hope Valve never works with the tf2 community ever again, even more than usual.
    I hope they actively kill the game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B-b-b-but he said he did it out of frustration and only leaked it to his friends.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I hope Valve never works with the tf2 community ever again
      That's already happening Anon, remember "community" updates? End of the line? Invasion?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do, I just mean more than usual.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >new case
    >new sloppa maps
    Say Thank You.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only problem with TF2 right now is that the partyvan server isn't online.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    STOP BUYING HATS
    CRATES
    SCRAP
    AND KEYS
    It's that simple

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is now time to sell all your cosmetics and crap now on the market before this game and the player base is dead and you can't get anything out of it anymore

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    678510903
    >why are people campaigning and protesting wanting attention?
    actually moronic. Seeth until you die or you figure out the "hide" button.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Valve you have to work on this 17 year old game and engage in a fruitless cat and mouse chase with the dedicated autists doing the botting shit because... well because you just have to, ok?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the game is 17 years old! You should be tired of it because... because you just should, ok!?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the game is older than most people playing it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          next this homie is gonan be telling people not to play anything older than the Ps4 lmfaooo. KYS troony

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          tell dad to turn off the footie, shite's too old

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valve you have to undo this one update from 2016 because bots have fricked it beyond repair
      Fixed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valve you have to work on this 17 year old game
      they already do, who do you think is pumping more useless shit every summer, halloween, and christmas? commit sudoku you fricking moron

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't take another moron posting the same "le game is old" bait, I just can't

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >41% of the reviews are positive

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Or what?
    No seriously, what are you guys going to do if Valve continues to not give a shit?

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Save TF2, people!
    >Also don't forget to subscribe to us hehe :3

    THEY'RE LITERALLY DOING THE SELF-PROMOTION BULLSHIT AGAIN LMAO
    This is just another movement for dumbass YouTubers to bolster their names. This is cringe as all god damn frick.

    >t. 4000+ TF2 enjoyer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >n-n-nuuuu don't c-credit people, it's nepotism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >all of those fricking E-CELEBS
      Can you TF2frickers STOP IDOLIZING E-CELEBS FOR FIVE SECONDS!? JESUS MAN have some self-respect!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ecelebs are all they have

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          sadly, everything else is just SFM renditions of popular "memes", the forced "mimi-sentry" and reddit circlejerks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jameskii
      frick that slimy snake

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Shork

      I cringe at this guy. Like. The voice actors are tired and old. Stop making them do shit like they are your puppets.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a little cringey but it's just some old boomers having fun, they wouldn't be there if they didn't want to be

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would they ever need to fix it? It's evident the e-celebs will still play even though has not taken any action.

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mostly Negative
    WE DID IT SISTERS

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It'd be hilarious if Valve's answer to #FixTF2 is to permanently shut down Valve servers, and the game returns to the state it was pre-2011 with dedicated community servers only.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one wants to play on community servers with troony brony mods who ban you for nothing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Life issue menthol homosexual.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >14 years later
        >cartoon horses still cause enough butthurt to be mentioned unprompted

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >be moron
          >frick horses
          >every one laughs at you and thinks you're a freak
          >"HAHA R-RENT FREE!!"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh no, not the definitely not proving

            >14 years later
            >cartoon horses still cause enough butthurt to be mentioned unprompted

            and

            Life issue menthol homosexual.

            correct and seething about it reply

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not hilarious, that's exactly what Uncle Dane wants. He wants to be the face of the game for new players.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So this failed big time right? Apparently no one cares and Valve did nothing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      didnt fail, Valve is literally shaking

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >0.14% of the game's reviews are "mostly negative"
        rip valve

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is what's making Gaben quake in fear...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All of those negative reviews will be wiped cleaned because coordinated review bombing isn't allowed

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          valve doesn't have a review bomb function. it's for "off topic review activity". people are leaving negative reviews because of the state of the game which is not off topic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Problem is, they'll happily abuse that function even if the outrage is directly related to the game. Remember Skullgirls?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Which works exactly the same, it's just an automated system, when enough negative reviews happen in a short amount of time on a previously positive game it counts it as off topic review activity

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          didn't happen to helldivers 2

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be anon
        >have moronism
        >thinks leaving a bad review on a multibillion
        dollar corporation's steam game will change anything
        >My sides have left the room.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nice greentext noob who's moronic now

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't been to Ganker in years, I forgot how to greentext you Black person.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Better update your vocabulary because this board got overrun with brown kids on their phones

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remember when tf2gays were reviewbombing overwatch 2's steam page?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The ones that didn't exist until people needed a convenient boogeyman for Blizzard's frickups?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, but I remember chinks doing it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        recent reviews
        >still very positive overall
        TF2sisters... what's our next move

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doxed myself, but IMO if any tf2 player wanted this to work, they'd try their damnest to crash the hat economy, or make Valve IP ban Russians.

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Black folk would rather spread their cheeks to play garbage like this
    Lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >say word
      >get hardware banned
      The absolute state of PC

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's been happening on consoles for a long time now
        PC is the last holdout and it's going to die as soon as microsoft gets pluton into the majority of PCs

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aren't all the bots playing as snipers? Just go invade Australia and they're gone.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This whole movement is such a fricking cope. MOVE THE FRICK ON.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sniper voice
      Nah

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TF2 is still very popular
    >The player base is like 12k outside of bots
    Yeah, I wonder why nobody wants to waste time on it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's realistically roughly 15-20k and that despite any fixes or meaningful updates. If bots and cheaters weren't as prevalent as they are more people would play.

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/6041
    Looks like they flew too close to the sun

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >save TF2
    Then get rid of trading. It will literally save the game overnight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this unironically, let people have whatever items they want, let the market crash and burn and from the ashes would be a more genuine tf2 experience

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If the bots go down for days at a time whenever an update comes out, would the release of daily "fake updates", designed to scramble the game's memory addresses to break all cheats, be a reasonable solution?

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 bros, it's time to migrate to Deadlock

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      (Heavy's voice): NO!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your little hat game is gonna have the plug pulled on it one day and all your hats will be worthless. Think about that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          (Sniper's voice): Ok mate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Minecraft bros it's time to migrate to Mario 64
      ????????

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    fpbp

    cant wait for when all these fricking losers go right back to the game after 2 days

    is so sad that they not only didn't put the id identifier on all boards but also removed the ip counter

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christ TF2 came out nearly twenty years ago, Move on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >OLD BAD NEW GOOD
      Inorganic post. troony raid.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Overwatch Chad here

    Suck my wiener, TF2gays

    Look who is laughing now

    After all these years of constant harassment and bullying from your shitty community. We get the last laugh

    Your dead game is hopeless, and overwatch is still standing

    AHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, I'm glad they did. Overwatch players never deserved all the shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >overwatch is still standing
      No it got taken out to a shed and shot so Blizzisraelite could scam their cultists with a fortnite shop and pseudo-subscription under the guise of funding PvE.
      Now there's a void that Valves trying to fill with Deadlock.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, I'm glad they did. Overwatch players never deserved all the shit.

      OW was a trainwreck in slow motion, derailing as soon as hero stacking was removed. Valve is neglectful at best, but Blizzard has acted out of spite. I feel bad for its playerbase more than I do for TF2's.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You have to pay money for content that you were lied about.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nice

      reddit

      spacing

      Black person

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the game is bad because you have to join a community server instead of random matchmaking
    Who cares about the bots? It has like 10k players max yet it seems like everyone on the planet is complaining about this shit

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know an easy fix. Change the game from free to play to $5. Free to play games always go to shit because it becomes infested with third world scum trying to squeeze the game for pennies. Want an example? Look at the untouched state of DOD:S.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play literally any community server besides Uncletroonpia
    Simple as

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Play literally any community server besides Uncletroonpia
      >skial
      >furry pound
      >ticking drama timebomb's groomer city
      wow

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      name some, because there's only 5 servers filled rn, 4 are owned by 2 people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would play skial servers but they have this moronic afk system where a player can go afk and a bot controls him which is the same as playing with offline bots.

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SaveTF2 is just "Save Casual because I hate community servers"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes i do hate modded clusterfricks running shitty maps how could you tell

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds good to me, community servers in my region are fricking ass anyway. I just want actual casual matches and not 24/7 skial slop and inceltopia garbage.

        This is why I'm thankful for the bots. It filters out the morons that can't navigate the server browser to find what they allegedly want, and for being morons, they get punished by not being able to play modern soulless matchmaking sloppa.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What are you blabbering about moron? I told you. Community servers in my region are just skial and uncletopia. Almost hardly any of them resemble anything like a regular casual match. Because if I want a casual experience the only option I have right now is play on a US server and have 300 ping.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you are simply a midwit, have a nice day homosexual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds good to me, community servers in my region are fricking ass anyway. I just want actual casual matches and not 24/7 skial slop and inceltopia garbage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Skial is a pathetic example of a community server.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Skial's botted to all frick, whether incidentally (AFK taking control of your merc *which is already super super fricking shady*) or deliberately

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MYM hurts community servers as well. It is difficult to populate a community server without randos getting pushed in by quickplay and the variety of community servers suffer because of it. Not even many big youtubers can get people to play on their servers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only community server I've liked do not have anyone on them except on fridays and saturdays.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They don't have as many players because you have nonces going
        >damn, no Casual, guess I won't play TF2
        >damn, there aren't 22/24 players on that server, guess I won't join
        Kids these days are rare in actually being willing to get the ball rolling, or even just deviating outside of prepared zones like matchmaking.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I play on that community server as it's the only one I like. But as I said, outside of friday and saturday the mods/users don't play.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        once had the best trade server ever. Just to goof around on. I loved the map. it was a railbait server. Then one day a female gamer came. Everyone instantly orbited her. She got hit by a car and stopped playing. And guess what? Everyone stopped playing too. She ruined all the fun, all the magic of the server. Last time i went on that server there was one guy who changed his name to '#prayforgamergirl' and i said i didn't care and he got all catty with me like the little cuck he was.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      community servers have been dead for almost a decade

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They aren't, you just can't be fricked to look through the browser. It's why everyone likes to just say it's all Uncletopia and Skial despite there being plenty of servers out there that get players.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, there's also UGC.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i like the bots being named happy pride month

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I respect the bot hosters more than the tf2 community.

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wouldn't making it not free to play anymore help the bot issue?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not in the slightest, there are tens of thousands of bot accounts that would be grandfathered in by already owning the game, and tearing access to the game away from F2P accounts would probably get their buttholes ripped open by EU courts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All the bots right now are paid accounts because Valve has banned none of them. Valve profits on bot accounts being made and then being upgraded to paid.

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is text mode even a thing?
    It has been creating problems for TF2 since the Mann-Conomy update at least. Why keep it?

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TF2 currently has a 24-hour peak of 90,000 players. If the vast majority of those are bots, how do the bots make money? Wouldn't they need a large playerbase of people to sell their crates and items to?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's actually a secret black market for TF2 cases where they sell for a million billion dollars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Metal and keys are basically a crypto currency at this point, hats are NFTs. Most big traders don't even play the game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TF2 economy is just a long game of who's the biggest sucker, there's no end-buyer for any of the junk, they just think they can flip it for higher

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forget about "idle" bots, the trade bots are the ones that make shit loads of money, don't ask me how, I know this for a fact after years and years of trading. You can even rent trade bots from people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zesty pointed out that a lot of the bot hosters are russian. For them the simple fact that the items are sold in us dollar makes them way more valuable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is true for stranges, hats and the like.
        For cases it is not, you see those cases that sell for 3 cents of a dollar? In other countries you can sell (or buy) for even less, here's the thing: not even in those poor countries the cases are sold, I would know, I'm from one of them, so there's some really shady shit regarding cases and crates,

        There's actually a secret black market for TF2 cases where they sell for a million billion dollars.

        this anon is right.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So it's just like Venezuelans and runescape gold? Got it.

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder how long this will go on for.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      a few weeks at most
      valve will do nothing (which is the correct course of action)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If it's only a tweet again, I would laugh

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          if by tweet you mean "64 bit client, vscript and a passing attempt at updates" then sure i guess

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You mean the things that happened because of the mapping community reaching out to Eric, and not anything to do with "save tf2"

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes anon the 64-bit client and divorcing from hl2.exe happened because of mappers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes you doughnut, now they can up the object count and mappers can start doing zany little things on the map without ending up like bloodwater where the server will crash if the entire server decides to play demoman

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a tweet is too much
          don't give e-celebs an inch

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mostly negative reviews
    HOOOOOOLD

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BREAKING VALVE RESPONSE

    >Yeah um the competent people that made tf2 are long gone and don't work here anymore, there's like zero chance we can fix the problem lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it'd be foolish to expect Campo Santo tranniescto be useful, too busy banning games they don't like off the store.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All those people work at Valve still, they just don't want to be a bunch of youtuber's babysitters.

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's how to fix TF2.
    Part one:
    Abolish item drop system. Every weapon and every cosmetic in normal quality is available for every player, new and old. Maybe taunts too. Remake item shop to have unusual effects, skins, stat counters and so on as things you buy directly, no gambling involved. Normal players can make create their loadouts freely, while terminally obsessed with bling can deck themselves out in gold, particles, and robot heads. I'm fairly confident that there are enough people willing to buy this shit without needing to rely on humanity's gambling addiction.
    This removes idle bots, and also kills off the hyper cancer circlejerk that is traders (who, in my opinion, are reasons of many issues with TF2, and should have never been allowed to create the horror which is "tf2 economy"). Still, any person willing to lob money at Valve, due to criplling need to show off or out of genuine desire to support their favorite game is free to do so.

    Part two:
    Return to "quickplay" system, or, rather, remake matchmaking to be a skin for quickplay. Valve servers run on old default settings (hour or so for each map, map voting, gamemode-centric map rotation, spectating, afk kicks). Players open "matchmaking" and pick what map they want to play, and are funneled to this or that official valve server. It should look like matchmaking because general populace of 2024 can't be trusted not to need a big "give me a match daddy" button. More visibility to server browser, at least one menu level above where it is now, because slightly less moronic idiots who don't believe playing on "unofficial" server will give them aids are incapable of finding shit unless you slam their face into it.
    Aint gonna fix cheaters or botters, but server structure should make it harder at least a bit to outnumber players and disrupt games.

    Part three:
    Valve-issued, simple-worded, moron-friendly guides to hosting your own servers, maybe somewhere in main menu.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Valve-issued, simple-worded, moron-friendly guides to hosting your own servers, maybe somewhere in main menu
      They already have a create server button in the menu. Problem is, when they added that button, most people had a public IP. Now everyone is behind NAT.

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't have a small community server of people to play TF2 with sometimes already, you are strictly not going to make it. And I don't even mean in TF2 but I mean in general, the online multiplayer scene can't even be called a shell of its former self.

    People are terrified to say anything because the game company will put all expression under a microscope and are ridiculously trigger happy. You have no purchase protection if they decide to throw you out, and if you do get thrown out people will go "well you probably deserve it" because they've been soul-raped by increasingly bad treatment on behalf of game company. I can't think of any game that's actually still alive, yet all the power is placed in the hands of the players like it was prior to this nanny state insanity... except TF2.

    That's probably why so many people in these threads are begging for the community to fail and for TF2 to truly somehow "die." Ganker has been fricked over by these lunatics just as hard as actual online games have.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The thing is, I do. The server doesn't get together every day, and sometimes I wanna play TF2 when they're not around. So the only real option is either skial, casual, or try again later.
      I am not interested in skial. At all.

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Noooooo don't do anything ever and become a useless loser like me who drifts away passively in life even though things are progressively getting worse for me!

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    post yfw nothing happens

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    #FixTF2

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss uglehposting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >screams Black personRRRRRR in voip too
      dare I say based?

      Do people that play TF2 ever thought about just not playing it anymore? Countless threads and discussions about people complaining about the state of the game and no other games to jump to, why not just stop playing altogether? Why do they need a "replacement"? TF2 is not oxygen or food, it's a game, you can just exist without it.

      >Do people that play TF2 ever thought about just not playing it anymore?
      Nope, now back to the thread

  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll bite.
    I love this game to bits, we all do. Even the gays begging for it to be finally put down. That being said, there is a 98% chance this entire thing doesn't lead anywhere like it usually does, and if that is the case I'm not gonna cry about it. This game has endure through 17 years but it has to end somewhere. I'm not gonna get deeper into this in the off-chance this group of socially ack-ward misfits we call israelitetubers actually manage to pull something with this little stunt of theirs, but you should prepare yourself to let go, bro.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like a shitty way for a game to die to me, but there's not much else we can do. All we can do is entreat and if that doesn't work there aren't a ton of other options.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is a very shitty way to die, indeed. But whatever. I met a lot of cool people in this game, got irl and online friends out of it, enjoyed trading while it was sorta maybe profitable-ish, pubstomped to my heart's content and many more things. Hell, I got my Professor's Speks less than a month ago.
        Cherish the memories you made with it, you'll always have that.
        Ps
        Yes, I do realize I do sound impossibly fricking gay after rereading this and realising I'm getting slightly sentimental about a buncha pixels, shut up.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doesn't sound gay to me, sounds pretty cool.
          But I'm an idiot so take that with some salt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still think the worst part for TF2 in general is that the final comic will never be finish and its been almost a decade since the last comic was released

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, man. If only the final one was out at least we'd get some sort of closure. Who knows, maybe someday in the future TF2 will have it's own Epistle Three or something.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Valve just has a severe cliffhanger fetish and Half Life Alyx's ending proves that even more. It makes me glad Portal ended with 2.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            imo the only reason they made HLA was to retcon epistle 3

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remove cosmetics completely and the game will be saved

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally no amount of gay personal grievances getting addressed will "fix" tf2.
      We did this song and dance with balance changes.
      It just becomes the personal toilet of anyone who wants to whine about shit other people like.

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not even A responce tweet from Valve. It's over

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How the frick is review bombing the answer? It's not a new game lmao

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So, what happened? is the game fixed yet?

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's time to let go.
    This game hasn't been any good for almost a decade now, even without the bots and hackers.
    Move on, already. Valve do not care about you or their games, only skins and MOBA garbage.

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick off anti-TF2 shills

    Go play your homosexual JRPGs and roguelikes and loser games

    #DeadOnArrivalLock
    #SaveTF2
    #FixTF2

    https://steamcommunity.com/groups/BoycottDeadlock

    Support the war effort!

    tf2.fluffycat.gay:27015

  109. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do people that play TF2 ever thought about just not playing it anymore? Countless threads and discussions about people complaining about the state of the game and no other games to jump to, why not just stop playing altogether? Why do they need a "replacement"? TF2 is not oxygen or food, it's a game, you can just exist without it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they don't play it, they watch tf2 youtubers and laugh at sfm videos.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Do people that play TF2 ever thought about just not playing it anymore?
      Yes, the issue being that it's basically the ONLY game in its niche.
      >Why do they need a "replacement"?
      Because people want to play videogames you stupid pretentious homierd.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that a company of the size and value of Valve can lose a game to a bunch of russian kids is insulting.
      If Valve wants me to stop playing this old ass game then they should just shut down every single server and remove it from their platform. But since they choose to keep the corpse moving for that extra cash flow then they should at least fix this issue.
      This is not even exclusive to TF2 anymore, the bots are starting to appear in CS2 and other Valve games. They will eventually have to do something whether they like it or not.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Net worth doesn't equal actual size.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They can hire literally the best cybersecurity team in the world and some to do all the work for them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >They can dump endless money into a toilet to not fix an issue of specific autists being mad that people play TF2 (either at all in the case of moronic russian teenagers or not how they in particular want people to play it, as in Uncle Dane)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sure, they can keep ignoring the issue, but like I said, this is spreading over to CS2 and other games and it will eventually stop the cash flow because nobody will play these bot infested games anymore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this. cs2 is a fricking joke now. deadlock will be a fricking joke on its day of release. valve multiplayer games are so fricked

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this is spreading over to CS2 and oth
                The issue of rank selling bots in CS precedes TF2, you idiot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rank selling bots
                moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whatever moronic bullshit you're about to say is irrelevant, CS literally had a bot problem before TF2.
                You've already demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not the same you stupid Black person

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've stopped playing it around a year or so ago, I do hop in every once in a blue moon to play some Hightower like the pvp shitter I am

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you want the truth? I been looking for that alternative for a long time but nothing has ever come that close and the only two that even got somewhat there are The Finals and Friends vs Friends. One is already looking dreary in its future and the other is EAC so top rank is infested with cheaters but they are trying their hardest to keep it going and i commend them but the low player numbers don't help. The reason i keep coming back is because its not comphomosexual bullshit that makes you grind your dick off for a crumb of dopamine. I am so sick and fricking tired of esports ELO monkey cancer that I have started to drift away from shooters entirely, a genre I have loved for years.

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think TF2 fans are moronic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you THINK or you KNOW?

  111. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best thing they can do is bring back quick play. it's already in the game still, All they have to do is replace the button call for matchmaking to be quickplay. That's it.

  112. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do people still play this game
    >I haven't played TF2 in X years
    >Dude just move on
    >Just play X
    >Why you people keep talking about this game
    >But the game is dead

    TF2 has something makes the people that supposedly don't care to come back, again and again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Been like that for eight years at least. Some people just can't get over their exes I guess

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its the power of influencers, they're literally paid to drum up imaginary drama. TF2 died a long time ago, removing a few bots won't do anything.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bobski booski vodka drinky

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its just sad to see a game in such rough shape when all Valve needed to do is ignore the game back in 2010. Instead, they piled on so much trash that is overwhelmed the core game play to the point it mutated into an economy simulator.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You know it never gets old hearing people that obviously didn't play back in 2010 comment about issues that have only been around since around 2016, when the current wave of morons started making shit videos and assuming positions within the community, who are nigh exclusively responsible for literally everything wrong right now, since they got Valve to murder organic user servers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Time should have stopped at the Polycount update, everything else was a downgrade. And yes I do unironically mean the weapon sets should have stayed.

  113. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >artifact schizo was right

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course he was right. Valve ball lifters tried to silence him because everything about Artifact makes them look bad. They released a shit game then lied about fixing it and buried it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love when zoomers call anyone with strong, steadfast opinions "schizos".

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was seen as schizophrenic at the time because Valve was this board's holy cow. Turns out he was right in the end, too bad he's vanished.

  114. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    June 3rd is almost over, any news from Valve?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      operation magnetic mayhem

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine being one of those poor sons of b***hes who made the campaign and promoted it, except it was on the same day that people were rioting.

  115. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Updated the localization files for your brown ass country. You like?

  116. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This whole shitshow has basically just been one gang of terminally online homosexuals trying to one up the other. This is why Valve doesn't want to go anywhere near this shit. They don't want to be dragged down to these morons' level

  117. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh, and by the way, Pyro is also sniper
    Save Tf2 by removing all the non-stock weapons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Flaregun wouldn't be so gay if it didn't have the auto reload and Valve didn't increase weapon swap speed globally for some reason.
      In fact there are many weapons that people find annoying that wouldn't be so bad if weapon swap speed was reverted. The Jarate + Bushwacka combo, the Ubersaw and the Crusader's Crossbow, the Wrangler.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "no auto reload" makes no sense at all on a one-shot-one-clip weapon

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How so

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Flaregun wouldn't be so gay if it didn't have the auto reload and Valve didn't increase weapon swap speed globally for some reason.
      In fact there are many weapons that people find annoying that wouldn't be so bad if weapon swap speed was reverted. The Jarate + Bushwacka combo, the Ubersaw and the Crusader's Crossbow, the Wrangler.

      just add the sandman's stun mechanic back for christ's sake it's what made scout fun.

  118. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We don't want to combat cheaters because its treadmill work
    Is valve moronic?
    All live service games are treadmill work but that's all they want to make anymore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      valve is just lazy. Unironically.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ofc they are, 20years old game to fix, wtf, they have better thing to do and it's summer.

  119. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean why give a shit when steam makes money by just existing. I'm fricking surprised that dota 2 had a recent big patch. Worst is that you can't vote with your wallet in this situation, so yeah.

  120. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do they allow headless CLIENTS? That's wild.

  121. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't they literally have this trending every few months, you think by this point they would realize valve doesn't care and never will

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Don't they literally have this trending every few months
      no

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Technically no, but sort of, yes.
      They probably started whining about it NOW because they know the summer update is coming up.

  122. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >One hour left of June 3rd

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >being central time

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >being anything but central time

  123. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Oh and Sniper doesn't have to snipe. He can just peek corners and get 1shots like in Counter Strike
    Can someone just knock out the fricking item server

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It happened a few months ago. Everyone was stuck playing stock for a couple days or so.
      Personally I thought it was kinda fun.

  124. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well? Lalve response?

  125. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    so glad this sweatfest slop is still being unplayable and only 9k+ hour played redditors with e-celebs are whining about it while twitter trannies are putting the hashtag in their names thinking this will make valve do something

    let tf2 die, valve is busy making another sweatslop and fixing another one (not tf2 lmao)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sweatfest
      >tf2
      What

  126. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Let it die

  127. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have always had the power to save TF2 yourself but are too lazy to do it and want valve to do it for you and call them lazy

    All because you think this will make the thousands of dollars you spent on hat NFTs magically worthless when they were always worthless and you were moronic to spend that much money on them in the first place.

  128. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bot lives matter chud. #BLM #KillTF2

  129. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm convinced that Valve is purposefully running the bots themselves just to kill this game and sweep the losses under the rug.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also wouldn't be surprised if they shut the game down for Deadlock.

      >being anything but central time

      >being an amerishart

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too absurd, those bots have been polluting TF2 since 2016 (MyM update) and there bot hosters who've come out said as to why they do it.

  130. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Please Mr Valve 'fix' tf2 by removing the people who artificially bump the apparent popularity of your 17 year old game by 4 fold and who give you endless $$$ contributions via your cut of the item transactions they farm

    Face it, valve love these fricking botters

  131. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Valve is pissing me off. I'm officially buying my weekly set of 50 keys off third party sites from now on.

  132. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reddit is a great salty read right now, they're eating eachother over the absolute flop.

  133. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlock fan here. I support TF2, because I don't want Uncle Dane's cult to become mentally ill shitposters if the campaign fails.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I support everything bad happening to TF2's zombiebase because it's the funnier option.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You say "become" like they aren't already a stage 4 cancer.

  134. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Weird how petitioners seem allergic to any actual action and changes that would lead to real improvements like getting rid of matchmaking. They get nothing because they ask nothing concrete.

  135. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're fricking MOCKING us...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >github trannies clapping
      classic

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