Sburb

Could this game's mechanics translate well into an RPG system?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know anon, you didn't tell me what this unheard of games mechanics are.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, once I get home I'll try to create a compressive summary of the mechanics of sburb. We're going to need it if we want to keep having these threads.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >if we want to keep having these threads.
        Anon I…ur a faget. No one cares about your troll hatesex simulator or dogfutas. Just stop and get some professional help.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shitposting level breaching the fucking scale.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    yes because it was literally run as an analogue roleplaying game for some time
    no because there are basically no mechanics in the fictional game to adapt
    hope this helps

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, because nothing good will come from that franchise. let it fucking die please before it somehow gets even worse.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It did become worse, just under the monnicker of Undertale instead

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Deltarune is a complete upgrade and makes up for it though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just seems like gay furshit to me

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe if you're a gay furfag

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's a complete downgrade wtf are you on

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no, it became worse under the monnicker of Homestuck^2.
        which dwarfs anything even undertale did.

        Toby has his sins, but no one can out warcrime the Huss.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Previous thread:

    [...]

    I'm the anon with server access and Ganker skills. if we wanted to make a forum for this what kind of software would we use

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably some kind of database for health, locations, stats and all that but im not really sure what you mean by software. Really you could go as autistic as you want for this. Considering this is homestuck, maximum autism is the norm.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Would you need anything more comprehensive than, idk, phpBB plus a dice roller extension?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This, maybe something to keep track of health and grist and heavely limit grist types ?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, honestly I'd have there be only a few different types of grist- maybe Build Grist plus two grist types per player/world? Maybe a high-level type of grist as well. Or Artifact Grist if you've got players who want to play that way.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Nta, that sounds too few? Idk. Maybe just abstract it as tiers of grist instead of individual kinds. So you would need x tier y grist to make something instead of X build and Y tar or something.
            My idea is tie the available tiers of grist to gate progression. So right outside your house you can only get tier 0 (i.e. build) and occasional tier 1 grist (shale or something) but if you go through your 3rd gate you have access to tier 1-4 grist in various quantities. And that way item progression is tied to world progression.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >item progression is tied to world progression
              i like this. mostly because it means progress in one land means progress in all of them.
              a group going all in on one land so they can steamroll the earlier tiers of the other lands seems like the kind of minmaxing you'd get from a videogame.
              so, peak homestuck meta fuckery.
              if you wanted to stop a group from focusing on one land only, make sure to put events on each land that need to be solved in a reasonable timeframe, or else will cause serious problems.
              like the gay marriage lich

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I mean that's already 10 types of grist for a normal-sized party. How many do you think there should be?

              I'm not sure I'd want to abstract them- that seems way too sterile. Having land-based types of grist adds color to the world.

              Example for canon:
              >everyone has access to Build Grist
              >when John enters his low level grist is shale and his high level one is... tar, sure, we'll go with that
              >Rose has chalk and marble
              >Dave has rust and garnet?
              >Jade only has one canonically (uranium) but for this example her lower-level one can be cobalt and higher-level one can be uranium
              >everyone has access to diamond
              So when John enters, at that point there is only four types of grist: build, shale, tar, and diamond. Everything he fights will give those. Once Rose enters the game will add Chalk and Marble. Those will come from enemies mostly found on LOLAR but might occasionally appear in other lands. Likewise Dave and Jade.
              To get other types of grist you can either use things like Gristtorrent (which I can only imagine either acts very slowly or only sends some grist) or go through your 2nd gate.

              Sort of similar to what you're saying about tiering them, but less explicitly.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    So we all know how sprites work, but how would you handle them mechanically?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    classpect quizzes
    https://homestuck.net/tools/classpect-quiz/
    https://web.archive.org/web/20190210222808/http://stardust-rider.com/hero/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Those which bear this mythological role can {Steal} [Life], {Steal} through [Life], and be {Stolen} by [Life]. Additionally - regardless of the user's intention - these expressions typically tend to serve others before the user.
      The literal force governed by the [Life] aspect is Biology.
      The abstract force governed by the [Life] aspect is Vitality.
      This Classpect's primary function is the redistribution of health and biological attributes - siphoning stamina, strength, and resilience from one target and imbuing it into others. Additionally, this Classpect may be able to appropriate things from others through the process of living. Of course, due to the team-orientated nature of the Rogue class, anything taken will tend to find itself being invested into others rather than being used to enrich the Rogue themselves. Finally, this role may be captivated, enthused or otherwise deeply fond by their own existence, or by existence in general - they are quite taken with the subtle beauties and humble mundanity of life.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hussie, where's my bro Sollux?

      Prince of Space, I'm sorry about the doomed session.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        based eugenicist space player euthanizing the lesser frogs

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Your bro's right here

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          in his natural habitat. Ganker.org

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't call it natural but it certainly is a habitat

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Was he the character with the least screentime?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Not remotely. Even excluding the Alpha Trolls, you have Feferi, Nepeta, and Equius. None of them got as much screentime as Sollux did.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Equius
                It hurts, he deserved so much more.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What's funny is that Equius not getting any screentime lines up perfectly with his class, the Heir of Void.

                If you had an Heir of Void player in an actual TTRPG session of Sburb, he'd be the guy who's always no-showing, except every time he does show up it's extremely important and plot relevant. And IC and OOC his absence lines up perfectly with each other - so on days where his character isn't needed, he just doesn't show up at all, but he somehow always catches the sessions when it's important by sheer coincidence.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I got 'Rogue of Rage' the fuck is that meant to mean?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You take people's anger, but nicely.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You steal rage from you enemies and give it to you allies.
          This may sound weak as hell at first but sapping your opponents of their rage can cause apathy and giving it to you allies can motivate them.

          Huh that's kinda neat I suppose, I figured rage would have a broader meaning though, seems the other aspects do

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Rage is also the Aspect that deals with religion in Sburb.

            So a Rogue of Rage could literally strip someone of the very faith that empowers them - whatever that could be.
            You'd have the ability to instantly make a Cleric lose all of their spells and effects, and they couldn't do anything about it. A God Tiered Rogue of Rage could rip away the faith of entire nations, and give your own party the power you stole.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You steal rage from you enemies and give it to you allies.
        This may sound weak as hell at first but sapping your opponents of their rage can cause apathy and giving it to you allies can motivate them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Huh that's kinda neat I suppose, I figured rage would have a broader meaning though, seems the other aspects do

        Some people might disagree, but Rage is a more complex aspect than it seems. It's not just the emotion of anger, though that is an important part. Rage is, perhaps ironically, one of the two most metaphysical aspects. Here's the tl;dr if you don't want a lengthy explanation: Rage represents the restriction of opportunity, but also the power of focus. It's the fury that fills you and forces you to punch a bastard in the face, but also stops you from hesitating and let's you put your all into it.

        In order to give a decent description of Rage, it helps to give a brief description of its inverse aspect, Hope. Hope represents the metaphysical concept of opportunity. To be full of Hope is to be able to impose your will upon Paradox Space however you'd like — it means having a bright future where you can do or be whatever you want. Rage is the inverse of that; a person full of rage has little to no control over their actions. They can't decide their future for better or worse, pushed forwards like a horse wearing blinders.

        To elaborate on what this means: A Rogue of Rage could take Rage from their enemies and give it to their allies, taking opportunities to strike from the bad guys and restricting allies to only make the best possible moves. Kind of like an RTS game, maybe.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Okay now that sounds pretty cool, I can imagine a lot of 'happens' occuring just from the mere prescence of this classpect which is also quite amusing to me - I've heard some other people discussing that 'Rage' as an aspect pertains to a whole range of negative emotions, not only anger - and also seems to include the rejection of normalcy in the pursuit of truth.

          I could imagine my classpect being capable of sowing disorder in enemy ranks perhaps, by way of re-distributing the negative emotions of my own comerades or something. Really makes me appreciate how broad and varied this system can be for interpreting things as well as what powers could be derived from it.

          (Also if I've misinterpreted something here please feel free to respond with that more lengthy explanation, I'm really quite interested in this as a power system)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, I would say that it makes a lot of sense to associate rage with other negative emotions, as long as you keep that core through line of limitation to keep the thematic value intact. If you want to dive deep into the old Homestuck classpect theorizing stuff, if only so you can use it for your own ideas moving forward, I can recommend BKEWs old theories on Tumblr. Just take them all with a grain of salt. The ones you care about are the Ultimate Classpect Post, Aspect Duality Theory, and the Class Role Table. The most condensed version will be that Ultimate Classpect Post though.
            https://bladekindeyewear.tumblr.com/post/37239149790/bladekindeyewear-theorylist

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >BKEW
              Man I wish that guy had turned out to be right about anything beyond the most obvious stuff. He had me believing Hussie was some gigabrain playing 4-D chess with the reader

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He was unironically mindbroken by how disappointing the ending was (and how wrong he was about almost everything) that he legitimately went to therapy and took meds.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Probably needed to do that regardless

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I remember his posts right after the ending was released, so I'm not surprised.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                God, same. To be honest I think he was at least half-right about most of it, but Hussie pulled a 180 and gave up on the story. I mean, that ending came out of fucking nowhere, and I don't believe the bullshit about how leaving literally dozens of loose threads was an intentional subversion. He just gave up on actually finishing his story and put out a pretty animation instead of an ending. Or I'm just huffing copium, who knows.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're right.
                Because remember, the gigapause and fucking TOG taking off with MILLIONS OF FUCKING DOLLARS IN BACKER MONEY.
                I actually don't blame Hussie for that. It was insane. He had the responsibility for dealing with a shitload of dosh. He gave it to a developer for a game, and they screwed him over, and stole the money. Then he had to figure out what happened, with the pressure of millions of dollars on his back, and people's expectations. It broke a man.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i mean some of his final conclusions were kind of stupid, but i figured he was like 80% right and just fucking up the finale. I had my own theories, but it's been like 7 years so I don't remember them.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Quite a while since the last time I took the test and I remain a Mage of Void. I may be useless, but at least I'm consistently useless!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Embrace the void and the horrors that dwell on it
        Lets study the outer rings, friend
        Lets look beyond the stars
        Your aspect its more than it seems.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Lime Power!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Derse
            >Doom
            Yeah it checks out, whats your class bard? Cool sign btw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Maid of Rage repping in

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Page of Space
      >Have to be carried through early game
      >Eventually assume max level powers over the most important aspect
      Crafting galaxies seems fun. Space is generally supremely overpowered with teleportation, size manipulation and matter creation.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Huh they removed the homestuck general option for the question about where you are active.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        /hsg/ has been banned on /co/ for years now.
        Nobody can frequent it anymore.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm glad it's gone and I would never return to it, but it will always be my home and it was the only place I belonged when the comic was active. It should be reinstated.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >that second quiz
      >-eleven- degrees in variation for the responses
      This is completely superfluous. You don't need more than no/neutral/yes. Fuck's sake. How do I perceive the difference in a two and a three or an eight and a nine? Am I too autistic or not autistic enough for this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The first one gave me Sylph of Time and the second gave me Heir of Void
      What the fuck does that mean

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Sylph of time
        You heal thru time
        >Heir of Void
        Black hole in the making, for now you barely qualify as a sinkhole

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You heal thru time
          Most people do that tbh, unless they have AIDS or something
          >Black hole in the making, for now you barely qualify as a sinkhole
          So what you’re saying is I’m gonna get fat huh? I guess that’s a power

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It means that Classpect quizzes are and have always been bullshit.
        >Sylph of Time
        As the Slyph of Time, you'll be thrust into a position of responsibility, surrounded by allies you need to protect and nurture. You may have to use the power of Time to heal their literal wounds, but it's more likely that they'll be experiencing Time related suffering that you'll be uniquely able to relieve (chronic pain, prophecy obsession, etc.) Ultimately though, if you achieve your full potential you'll be challenged to heal the wounds of the timeline itself, whatever that happens to mean in your session.

        Heir of Light. Heir like my favorite kid John, and Light like my favorite kid Rose. No idea what it means, but hell yeah.

        To be an Heir of Light means that you'll begin your adventure presented with amazing insight and/or fortune. You'll be able to uncover information about nearly anything you'd like with lucky coincidences happening all the time, and it'll be a wonderful new chapter in your life. You probably won't see anything wrong with it... which will be the problem. It won't be long at all before you know too much for your own good, and one of the few things you don't notice will probably be how your behavior is affecting your friends. Your luck may very well come at the expense of your allies, and at a certain point your constant advice will likely become overbearing.

        Ultimately, the challenge you're faced with will not be to discover greater and more powerful Light. If you do that, you'll burn like Icarus in the sun. Instead, you must find the value of Void in yourself and the world. You need to admire the mysteries of life and Paradox Space, and also learn to keep things to yourself for once.

        (If this doesn't sound like you, that's just because Classpect quizzes are about as meaningful as Buzzfeed quizzes.)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Heir of Light. Heir like my favorite kid John, and Light like my favorite kid Rose. No idea what it means, but hell yeah.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Page of Time, seems wack

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What the fuck does the hope aspect even do?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Hope is the aspect of possibility and belief. It is the pure power that lets you achieve your goals in life, bringing yourself to a bright future. An infusion of hope provides the power to do anything you want, create opportunities from nothing, and destroy anything that gets in your way. It's very metaphysical, but this is Homestuck we're talking about. You can't expect straightforward shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Page of Time from last thread reporting in, still believing in the potential power of the Page class.

      Claim your modus.
      I'm a linked list kinda guy.

      Not much of a code person but I like the idea of modi based on certain mechanics or themes

      >Cooldown Modus
      >Items placed inside it can be retrived in any order, but storing an item puts it on "cooldown" and an item cannot be removed until the timer has finished counting down.
      >Mundane items have short timers (~10 seconds to 1 minute), with more esoteric and powerful items having much longer cooldowns
      >Random items might suddenly gain a long and very specific cooldown timer when stored, only to later reveal themseves as an important plot device that unlocks just as soon as it's needed the most urgently, similar to the Kanya modus

      >Mana Modus
      >Organised like a spellbook with items being catalogued onto each page.
      >Storing an item places it onto a page and assigns it a mana cost, and it can be later summoned using a self-replenishing pool of mana
      >(or altenatively it can create copies of stored items using Grist, functioning as a built-in Alchemiter without the power to combine punchcard data)

      >EncounterTable Modus
      >Items get assigned a random value when stored and then placed onto an encounter table
      >Fetching an item requires a dice roll which then gives you the assigned item
      Iincreasing your inventory size makes it more frustrating to use as your chance of getting the item you want increases with each upgrade.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >page of hope
      and
      >heir/mage of mind
      wat do

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Heir of Void
      ascending.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bard of Void here
      Miss me with your gay ass session

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That makes 3 Void Bards. Either the /tg/ session will be piss easy or completely fucked.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's going to have more >0 Horroterrors in session that's for sure.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Put all the void players on the same Land, let them all work together to do nothing and somehow allow a horrorterror to manifest.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >3 people obliterated into being totally unnoticeable and insignificant by their own Void, while at the same time, drawing others into destroying with Void.
          It's both very obvious how they ended up on Ganker, probably /LULZ/ users, but at the same time, this ends very Ganker.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How would that session even go? Three bards of void, a time player and a space player. Sounds like total chaos to me

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One idea I've come up with is that since bards destroy their aspect, the void boys would end up canceling eachother out since they're all aligned with the same aspect and we'd be completely fine. Or they could just summon unfathomable numbers of horrorterrors with their combined powers and kill us all, its a coin toss really.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Prince of Blood
      What the hell does this mean?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The only person who has heard Hussie's canonical explanation for the Blood aspect (and the Mage class) is the crank who wrote the first chapter of Hiveswap and was then fired. Viz fired the majority of WhatPumpkin and essentially dissolved it for reasons I either can't remember or never knew. Anyway, he's probably never going to talk and likely resents the Homestuck fanbase now.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh didn’t realize there was any canon info on any of the classes or aspects

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Almost everything you see is extrapolated from what certain adjacent characters do in the story and then a bunch of fanfiction. The comic has said very little directly about much of these things, but has solidified several of them.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah I have vague recollections of princes destroying things using their aspect or destroying the aspect itself, but blood was always such an on the nose honk honk concept for the comic I never really understood it in the application of sburb as a game

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Blood is everything Karkat cared about when his group was playing: bonds/alliances/leadership. Simple enough. There's a "canon" aspect test made to promote the Hiveswap games, called the Extended Zodiac. They never made a counterpart for classes, but you get your moon in there, at least.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Friendship ruiner

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I have vague recollections of princes destroying things using their aspect or destroying the aspect itself, but blood was always such an on the nose honk honk concept for the comic I never really understood it in the application of sburb as a game

        To be a Prince, as you've correctly interpreted, is to embody your Aspect through destruction. Unlike a Bard, who would destroy through others, your role will be to destroy with your own hands. But what does it mean to destroy Blood, or to destroy with Blood? Well, aside from the aesthetic flourish of probably wielding weapons forged in blood, your role will likely enable you to enact terrifying violence against anyone you wish — but then, that's an ability afforded to most Princes.

        Your real strength will lie in one of two realms. Blood is the aspect of loyalty, bonds, and promises. If you can forge bonds with those you care about and gain their loyalty, then your power will grow as you stand on their shoulders. In more gamey terms, you're the DPS who everyone should buff, because their buffs on you will scale exponentially.

        Take care, though. As wonderful as it seems to be dangerous and brutal, your role will incline you towards destruction as a whole. You may be able to use Blood to destroy, but you'll also find it so very easy to destroy Blood. That is to say, you'll be able to break apart the bonds that tie people together. If you let your role overtake you, you'll begin to break each and every bond around you. Really, it would be trivial to ruin your own web of friends, cutting off all aid and leaving you cold and alone. You won't even have to try to do it — in fact, it might happen as a result of you trying to hold onto your bonds of friendship too tightly.

        Your path to avoid this fate is to accept your Aspect's opposite. You'll be challenged with learning to respect the importance of Breath. Breath is freedom, Breath is the aspect of heroic quests. This means giving freedom to those who've promised to aid you. Don't forge bonds which wrap around your allies necks and strangle them, or you'll be the one responsible for severing the chains that hold you together.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Bard of Breath
      >Knight of Time
      I'm sure there's some 2deep7me information that's escaping me so I request more knowledge on the matters of what-the-fuck is a Knight of Time or a Bard of Breath.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Knight of Time is what Dave was.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ok Anon, assume I know nothing about Homestuck. And then explain the context to me as though I was 5 years old.

          of time
          oh boy
          ..how do you feel about puppets?

          Well I feel very neutral about them. Though from your response I assume they are either very positive but stupid or very negative and over the top.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but knights are fighty fuckers that use their element offensively.
            Dave is a character from Homestuck who got repeatedly pranked by use of a puppet.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >NTA but knights are fighty fuckers that use their element offensively.
              Thanks Anon.
              >Dave is a character from Homestuck who got repeatedly pranked by use of a puppet.
              Man really? Hopefully the pranks weren't too bad.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh he was traumatized as fuck, bro. You have no idea the amount of trauma he carried with him the rest of his life.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh he was traumatized as fuck, bro. You have no idea the amount of trauma he carried with him the rest of his life.
                Well considering I assumed earlier that it was either very positive but stupid or very negative and over the top, I think I do. But tell me more so I can fine tune this idea of the shit show.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine everyday, from toddler to teen, just puppets. Puppets in your bed, on your dresser, in your shower and toilet, in your fridge and toaster. All the cupboards and on every chair and table.

                Go to make a sandwich and their was a puppet stuffed between the two end slices in the bag. Go to make a smoothy and there's a puppet in the blender and oh no somehow it turned on and why was that puppet full of fake blood? Gotta shower before school but that puppet on the nozzle is eyeing you so impudently maybe you don't need a shower today. Had a good night rest? Wake up with puppets on your chest. And they move. Never while you're looking but through some unknown to you means they do.

                The puppets are always looking right at you and damn do they have sexy butts.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Long story his older brother with anime Fashstepping powers made his money doing puppet snuff films and so littered their apartment with kinda sexual puppets. He also used his Flashstepping powers to manipulate a puppet called Little Cal moving it around the apartment and using it to kick the shit out of Dave in their sword fighting training sessions.
                Also pic rel

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine everyday, from toddler to teen, just puppets. Puppets in your bed, on your dresser, in your shower and toilet, in your fridge and toaster. All the cupboards and on every chair and table.

                Go to make a sandwich and their was a puppet stuffed between the two end slices in the bag. Go to make a smoothy and there's a puppet in the blender and oh no somehow it turned on and why was that puppet full of fake blood? Gotta shower before school but that puppet on the nozzle is eyeing you so impudently maybe you don't need a shower today. Had a good night rest? Wake up with puppets on your chest. And they move. Never while you're looking but through some unknown to you means they do.

                The puppets are always looking right at you and damn do they have sexy butts.

                ngl that is pretty messed up. I wouldn't blame anyone if they ended up killing their own brother because of that.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        of time
        oh boy
        ..how do you feel about puppets?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >A Bard of Breath
        Breath is the Aspect of Wind/Lightning - but also of the concept of freedom of choice.

        I'd expect a Bard, who "invites destruction via their aspect", of Breath to be affect people's destiny in some what, destroying their ability to choose heroic actions/outcomes. Think of it as having an aura around you that is limiting people's ability to be free - in any literal or metaphorical sense of the word.

        Or perhaps you'd make them "freely" able to be defeated in some what.
        >Knight of Time
        You can time travel. Knights "serve through their aspect" so basically Knights of Time are huge errand boys who use the timeline as a method to achieve all type of shenanigans or to fight. Sounds more lame than it actually is - Dave Strider was a Knight of Time and he was constantly beating the shit out of anything he encountered.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you anon. I appreciate your explanations.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Lightning
          ?
          Why is lightning being lumped in there? Variety?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What is lightning but air rubbing together?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dave also used timetravel to rig the stockmarket system on his planet and generate a virtually unlimited supply of grist for his fellow players.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Bard of Breath
        Those which bear this mythological role can {Destroy} [Breath], {Destroy} through [Breath], and be {Destroyed} by [Breath]. Additionally - regardless of the user's intention - these expressions principally are in relevance to others, serving and impacting them disproportionately relative to the user.

        The literal force governed by the [Breath] aspect is Momentum.
        The abstract force governed by the [Breath] aspect is Autonomy.

        Bards of Breath passively induces stillness upon the world around them, their influence arresting motion and strangling incitement. In addition, this classpect can indirectly leverage those same forces towards destructive ends - pressuring others to dangerously accelerate their conduct or by encouraging them to act independently at inopportune moments. The character of individuals belonging to this role may be laid-back, slow-to-action, or excessively thoughtful - in essence they hold a distinct distaste for being hurried into action which is fitting as they prove to be exceedingly prove to crumbling when swept up in particularly high-energy situations involving dynamic changes or multiple intelligent actors.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah.
      Big Brain time.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >turn your brain off: the class
        congrats

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's the most dangerous of players, he can inflict retardation on any who dare cross his path.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            In that case he'd be great CEO for a social media company

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        TIME PLAYERS HATE HIM!!!
        This ugly son of a bitch is annihilating useless timelines, and basically? You are a fucking coin flipper

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think the Prince would have the same effect on timelines as Seer. Seems like all Seers would affect timelines due to the nature of steering events. A Prince of mind would be very psychologically damaging and destructive through their own thought processes though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Prince of Mind DESTROYS gate boss with FACTS and LOGIC

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Knight of Breath
      It's time brothers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Page of Rage
      Fuck yeah lets go.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're all fucked now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Inhibits cellular maturation inflicting fatal autoimmune responses and crippling necrosis upon all bystanders.
        > Removes the ability to properly improvise and adapt to changing circumstances.
        > Killed by the 'Rona.
        Shoulda taken your 'safe and effective' vaccine bruh.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Literally mindbroken.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Huh.
            So you're telling me that Anthony Fauci is a Prince of Mind?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I'm telling you to stop spouting clown world propaganda at random intervals, you remote-controlled drone.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How does it feel to have a sieve for a brain?
                Do you retain memory of anything that happened more than six months ago?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Page of Void
      >Page of Time
      Well, at least the class is consistent?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Heir of Hope
      >Bard of Breath

      Ummm... Aren't these two like, complete opposite?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not quite.
        I believe that the closest thing to the opposite of an Heir of Hope would be a Page of Rage.
        And the inverse of a Bard of Breath would be a Slyph of Blood.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They both have a certain carelessness in their nature.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Seer of Heart

      If I'm getting this right, I could tell who you are, but not what you will do.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds about right

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Heir of Time
      what would i even do??

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Time Lord in the Making

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Victim of R8pe

      Damn that sucks........ This is me, 8y the way

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        GARGLE ACID AND SPIT IT INTO YOUR EYE, SPIDER WHORE. I'M NEVER GOING BACK IN THAT CAGE EVER AGAIN.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        GARGLE ACID AND SPIT IT INTO YOUR EYE, SPIDER WHORE. I'M NEVER GOING BACK IN THAT CAGE EVER AGAIN.

        >these fuckers do this bit in every homestuck thread on /co/ circa 2016
        >six years later they're still at it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >TFW POSTING A gRANDHIGHBOOB ON EVERY HS thread I can find
          Well shit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            canon character

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              God I love her

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                GIWTWM

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Sylph of Doom
      So I heal through Pain?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Quite a cast we have here, Prince of Doom, Bard of life, Sylph of Doom and Mage of Mind. Who are gonna be our mandatory space and time players? Though this setup its definitely for a doomed session however

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I got Page of Time earlier. Does that add to or remove from the fuckery?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            add. the time player is supposed to be the emergency button for when things fuck up.
            pages are notably incompetent.
            everyone is going to have to do everything right the first time, because your ass isn't fixing anyone's mistakes.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >pages are notably incompetent.
              Ah, that describes me perfectly, then.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think only a knight of space will save that session now.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well you're in luck, fucker. I got Knight of Space on the second quiz.

                I don't know what it does, but I got it.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So how does the session start and how long it takes for fuckery to begin? I'm betting on BoL and MoM to be constantly one-upping eachtoher in session fuckery

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd say Heir of Space, we already have someone that will take care of fixing (destroying) things (PoD) but we have no leader ship

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'd say Knight because they need someone who can start out strongly right away since relying on the PoD is likely to get someone killed but I suppose a Knight of one of the other more positive aspects could work. They also need a Space player who can be relied on from the start to do the important game stuff of their own volition because half these players are going to be to busy cock slapping the session for fun.

                Well you're in luck, fucker. I got Knight of Space on the second quiz.

                I don't know what it does, but I got it.

                It means you can weaponize space by either mass shifting things or teleporting but you are going to be heavily influenced by Paradox Space's needs. Get ready to be the responsible one.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean the Space player could always ask the MoM for help, they don't really need to be completely able to do all the things to keep the session afloat by themselves, just ask the Mage for help

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Mages' best use will be figuring out how to get things done I just don't trust them to get everyone else to follow those plans nor do I trust the Mage to not wind up with their head up their ass or go bug fuck insane if overly relied on.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It means you can weaponize space by either mass shifting things or teleporting
                Badass.
                >but you are going to be heavily influenced by Paradox Space's needs. Get ready to be the responsible one.
                Motherfuck.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With great power comes great responsibility, such responsibilities as being the session mong-wrangeler.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Knight of Space and his Five Retarded Kids

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well at least we dont have a void player, so there's that, It could be way worse with horror terror and the such ESPECIALLY if a void player and a mind player get to shenanigangs together and even worse taking into account the classes

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                *cough*

                That makes 3 Void Bards. Either the /tg/ session will be piss easy or completely fucked.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They
                They're their own little session, no one knows whats happening there, and no one wants to know
                Way too many void players there
                Why is everyone a Bard too? oh god...

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Prince of Doom deaths people to life
          >Bard of Life lifes people to death

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As it should be
            God we are so fucked, also
            >Sylph of Doom heals people to death

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Can't be sick if their dead!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Through fate/futility/legitimacy (i.e. doomed timeline), sacrifice (often self-sacrifice), and those that have fallen.

        So, a necromancer that solves injuries with amputations followed by grafts from their own donated limbs, replacing their own with those harvested from corpses.
        As well as an exorcist that comforts the ailing spirits of the fallen.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mage of Rage
      it's better than being a bard

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >translate
    Sure
    >well
    No
    They're inherently two different things. Its a work of fiction and moreover comedy in which half of the joke is that game system is shitty and difficult to grasp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I mean pretty much this. I definitely feel like you'd almost need two systems, one for like actually playing and interacting with things (Combat, skill checks, Statistics etc.) and another that is just ... Made up on the fly and total bullshit to represent all the grist, prototyping, meticulous bullshit, etc.

      So the idea of "Traditional RPG where bullshit computer rpg/adventure game stuff is a real obstical you have to do actual human thinking around." sounds kind of neat.

      Shame the scenario itself is pretty opposed to group play. Which is to say, presuming you start from scratch, everybody starts off on their own, and stays on their own, stuck in their houses for a long while. Like even if you sort of do it as a weird round robin GM thing like it is in the comic (One player does gm stuff for another player who does wandering around getting into fights) with more than two people taking turns it again feels like it could be a bit of a stop and start gm-ing and playing experience.

      I feel like I'm accidentally stumbling into ways to make it work and instantly tearing them down.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        To alleviate having certain players 'stop and go' as much, let players take over as Sprites when it's not their turn to do plot shit, doomed game constructs designed to help players along. Just an extra battle helper/someone for protagonists stuck on a planet alone to bounce ideas off of. For extra head-fuckery have the players play as Sprites composed of their own dead doomed timeline selves so they're still playing their character even when they're not playing their character.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          But stop and go is exactly how it was in the comic don't you remember waiting weeks for certain characters to finish simple 5 second tasks because someone else was the focus?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I remember all too well. Romantic and melodramatic tumors on the ship through the windows. Jumping from Felt Member to Felt Member while trying to piece together why we should care. Trickster Mode.
            Fun as it was, it doesn’t translate well to tabletop. You can’t give one player main character status for three hours while everyone else at the table sits and watches. You’ll run out of players quick.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Not without dramatically simplifying the pointlessly obtuse mechanics involving grist lathes and lands and the whole double timeline gloryhole donkeypunch paradox, or whatever.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      At which point, why even bother?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think any long-term campaign based on SBURB would ever end well. Players would lose track of what they were supposed to be doing, the GM would be juggling so many NPCs, it would be so easy to fuck up any one step of the whole process and make the entire game a colossal waste of time because someone didn't prototype their kernel sprite correctly 36 sessions ago, or whatever.

        You could take the general idea of a complex game within a game where players cobble together weapons and explore a bizarre world, going through challenges to prep what will ultimately be a universe genesis machine while gaining Classpects and God-tiers and so on, but I think if you shave off too much of the stupid Hussy-esque bullshit, it does kinda take away too much of what a homestuck fan might want from such an RPG.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >too ambitious and open ended to work as an actual videogame
          >too much to keep track of to work in tabletop
          P A I N

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            AI offers hope

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >input all of homestuck into AI dungeon as training data
              >????
              >profit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >input all of homestuck into AI dungeon as training data
                >get bard quest

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >input all of homestuck into AI dungeon as training data
                >get bard quest

                I'd rather see problem sleuth.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >punch the AI in the face to establish dominance

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                AI offers hope

                https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620/AI_Roguelite/

                Would something like this be a good idea for a proper SBURB game?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It needs a few years in the cooker.
                Eventually we want an ai that can improvise, but remember what it has established and stick to certain hardcoded sburb concepts.
                At certain points, logic has to take over. You can't have the AI suddenly declaring an enemy drops a billion grist or that the final boss dies on the first hit. A framework of loot tables and healthbars is necessary. I don't think current AI can make use of something like that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          There are a lot of different types of homestuck fan.
          What you shave off and what you keep depends on which one you want to appeal to.

          Drama and quirky personalities.
          Wacky vidya mechanics.
          Abstract classpect powers and story roles.
          Callbacks and patterns.
          Clever puns and allusions.

          Pick 2.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Homestuck fan. I picked 4. I left unsatisfied because by the end the top one was the only one getting attention.
            This is what happens when you let fans on the project, they skew the thing off into whatever direction they want it to go. So it turned into nothing but drama and shipping bullshit and jerking itself off.

            Caliborn's masterpiece was the last readable thing published, everything else was like nails on chalkboard until I finally gave up hoping for it to get better.

            Hussie, where's my bro Sollux?

            Prince of Space, I'm sorry about the doomed session.

            okay that's actually a legit good meme, fuck me

            I got 'Rogue of Rage' the fuck is that meant to mean?

            You steal rage from you enemies and give it to you allies.
            This may sound weak as hell at first but sapping your opponents of their rage can cause apathy and giving it to you allies can motivate them.

            rage also has to do with like, Truth in a way.
            Its opposing element Hope is all about potential and ideals, turning currently nonreal ideas into an actual reality. Rage is about savagely destroying that which is false but masquerading to be true.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >the GM would be juggling so many NPCs
          I have about 60 named, significant NPCs in my current D&D game. Isn’t SBURB mostly nameless chess pieces?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sburb clusterfucks itself pretty easily, even with how one--dimensional the NPCs are supposed to be, just because of how many complex, interconnecting pieces there are supposed to be
            even nameless chess pieces can be hard to keep track of if you also have to keep track of retarded talking salamanders and their stock exchanges at the same time,

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Could you run some shitty D&D style adventure with sburb as a backdrop and bullshit the mechanics? Sure. Could you run Sburb? No.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    wweh

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They look both 12 and 112 at the same time. What the actual fuck?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      is this disgusting on purpose?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you could ask the same question of any fan of homestuck

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Classpect as a concept would although there would need to be some creative legwork for the more vague concepts but its basically a class will skills and then the magic relating to those skills.
    The Planets and the whole game of SBURB is doable but again its going to take work to make it all thematic to the characters.
    Combat is basically all homebrew for (insert GURPS or whatever here)
    The resource management system would be hell without a 3d modeling program or the person drawing everything having a ton of spatial awareness.
    The Crafting system would need to be simplified as while it is explained pretty well in comic any player that it doesn't immediately click with will tune out quickly.
    Keeping track of the movement of all relevant NPC's i.e. Jack or the Exiles is again doable but really hard.
    Time travel bullshit and predestination while thematically important should be kept to the minimum required amount of time loops (Guardian, Ectobiology, Exile's outcomes being destined already) unless there is a time player in which case that's going to be the vast majority of their play experience if they actually try and use their powers.
    Doomed timelines should be kept to a background thing unless again there is a time player and the Lovecraftian shit again should just be background fluff.
    All of the Lord English stuff should be ignored entirely I know many aspiring GMs would want to put in a Doc Scratch expy but its going to be shit and you have enough on your plate already.
    The Scratch is basically just a new campaign in itself.
    And I think that's about it
    If the GM is keeping accurate notes on the plans and timetables of all the main movers and shakers then everything should be good.
    Besides building a system to handle all of this in the first place...

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you run a homestuck game and don't use it as an excuse to use esoteric inventory systems, you're doing it wrong.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Spoken like a man who caches candy in his chapeau.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stop talking about Classpects.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      H3Y F4GGOT, 1S TH1S YOU?
      why don't you try to propose another topic instead of just telling people to shut up?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how bout no?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Start talking about fetch modi!

      Should the default fetch modus options all be primitive data types?
      If you can start off with an advanced one like Jade's memory game, should their be rules to make it at least as cumbersome as the others?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Claim your modus.
        I'm a linked list kinda guy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I dont know enough about programming to make a choice

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The list is the conventional boring inventory. Your item slots are in an ordered row and you can access each slot by specifying the number.

            The tuple is also a row of slots, but tuples cannot be modified once created. So I suppose the fetch modus equivalent would be that items go back into their item slots once you let of them, and you cannot use that slot for anything else.

            The set cannot store duplicates of the same item. But as long as you're storing unique objects, there is no limit to the inventory space. You cannot simply select an element in the set by its number. You can either grab the lowest or highest value object, or grab an object whose exact value you know.

            The dictionary stores any number of objects alongside a specified key. If you know the key, you can retrieve the object. If you use the same key again, you lose the previously stored object, which in homestuck I guess would mean ejecting it. My memory is fuzzy, wasn't there a dictionary modus at some point in the comic?

            The linked list can mean either singly linked or doubly linked. It means you can only access a slot of you have access to its neighbour. So if you want to grab the item in the third slot, you need to open up the first slot, then instead of retrieving its stored element press the button that give you access to the second slot, where you do the same to get to the third.
            In a singly linked list you can only go one way, in a doubly linked list you can also go backwards.

            The stack you know. You can only access the most recently added item. In a computer that also means not being able to tell what is in the slots you can't access, but I suppose in homestuck you still have oversight, only physically retrieving the items follows data structure rules.

            The queue only lets you access the eldest item added.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The tree is like a singly linked list, but each slot points to two other slots instead of one. You need to know the value of the object you want in order to retrieve it, the tree will be ordered in such a way that if the value you're looking for is lower than the slot you're looking at, the slot you're looking at is in the left branch, and otherwise it's in the right branch. So you iterate over the branches, checking if the one you're at has gone over or under your target value yet.
              When Rose used the tree fetch modus, being able to find where an item was wasn't the problem. The problem was that the tree didn't reorder itself and a bunch would fell out if you grabbed a middle section. So you see, the challenge of a fetch modus doesn't track one-to-one with the concerns of programmers using the data structure.

              With a graph, you can decide for yourself what other slots each slot links to. In this way, the data structure itself is used to represent some sort of information, such as city pathways or telephone networks. I suppose this would be like Rose's tree but up to her own design. Meaning more easily used.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >With a graph, you can decide for yourself what other slots each slot links to. In this way, the data structure itself is used to represent some sort of information, such as city pathways or telephone networks.
                Actually, I think it would be entertaining if the modus chose the connections between items, and a "theme" of each graph based on the first item captchalogued into it. You could only captchalogue items of that theme, like how Dirk's modus sorted things into different groups.
                On top of that, you have multiple graphs, an amount equal to the squared product of captchalogue cards you have, rounded down (eg 1-3 cards means 1 graph, 4-8 means 2, 9-15 means 3, etc). Captcha cards are divided as evenly as possible among them.
                To retrieve an item, you can remove the item with lowest sum of connection values, or you can dump the whole graph. Also, if you try to retrieve an item that would split your graph into two separate graphs with no connections between them, the graph will also dump.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          graph seems cool, it could be like jade's jenga modus but without the wooden rectangles

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I'm curious about what a linked list fetch modus would be like, so either that or tree.

          Partially because I related to Rose the most.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Making a freeform SBURB game for some friends and came up with some horseshit Modus where instead of programming jokes or board games they're NES cartridges.

          Tetris: Player gets a sheet of graph paper and draws in a predetermined Tetris piece for every item they store. Making a straight line destroys every item impacted and hitting the top ejects everything.

          Final Fantasy: 3 constructs (Fighter, Black Mage, Thief) can be 'equipped' with stored items as Body-Head-Arms-Hand. Keeping a full set on one changes stats a little but you can only hold 12 max items.

          Kirby: Can only hold a single item but it can be ejected a lot more forcefully than a standard Sylladex or 'eaten' to change the Modus (like destroying a microwave makes it a Fire Kirby Modus and items stored will have Fire attributes when retrieved, etc)

          Super Mario Bros: Items get stored in [?] Blocks and retrieving an item gives you a random one back. The more stuff you have the less likely you are to get the one you need.

          Bomberman: Store whatever you want but it'll explode a few seconds after you pull it back out.

          Duck Hunt: Storage has no limit but a cartoon duck flies away with your shit if you can't shoot it down fast enough.

          To answer your question Dave's Hash Fetch Modus looks the most fun to fuck around with.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The list is the conventional boring inventory. Your item slots are in an ordered row and you can access each slot by specifying the number.

          The tuple is also a row of slots, but tuples cannot be modified once created. So I suppose the fetch modus equivalent would be that items go back into their item slots once you let of them, and you cannot use that slot for anything else.

          The set cannot store duplicates of the same item. But as long as you're storing unique objects, there is no limit to the inventory space. You cannot simply select an element in the set by its number. You can either grab the lowest or highest value object, or grab an object whose exact value you know.

          The dictionary stores any number of objects alongside a specified key. If you know the key, you can retrieve the object. If you use the same key again, you lose the previously stored object, which in homestuck I guess would mean ejecting it. My memory is fuzzy, wasn't there a dictionary modus at some point in the comic?

          The linked list can mean either singly linked or doubly linked. It means you can only access a slot of you have access to its neighbour. So if you want to grab the item in the third slot, you need to open up the first slot, then instead of retrieving its stored element press the button that give you access to the second slot, where you do the same to get to the third.
          In a singly linked list you can only go one way, in a doubly linked list you can also go backwards.

          The stack you know. You can only access the most recently added item. In a computer that also means not being able to tell what is in the slots you can't access, but I suppose in homestuck you still have oversight, only physically retrieving the items follows data structure rules.

          The queue only lets you access the eldest item added.

          I guess I'll go with queue then

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I wish we got to see a proper ~ATH modus in universe. I think it could be really cool
          >items placed inside are tied to the "life" of an object/person/place/whatever really.
          >in order to retrieve that object then whatever thing it is tied to must "die" (i.e. if an object is tied to a computer program then closing the program would release the object)
          >for added challenge an object can't be tied to something with a short lifespan such as fruit flies.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      STOP POSTING ABOUT CLASSPECTS! I'M TIRED OF SEEING IT! MY FRIENDS ON /hsg/ SEND ME MEMES, ON /tg/ IT'S FUCKING MEMES! I WAS IN A GENERAL, RIGHT? AND AAAAAAAAAALLLLL THE POSTS WERE JUST CLASSPECT STUFF! I-I-I SHOWED MY BLUE UNDERWEAR TO MY GIRLFRIEND AND SAID HEY BABE, I'M THE PAGE OF BREATH HAHA DING-DA-DING DING DING-DA-DING DA-DA-DING I LOOK AT A RED TRASHCAN AND I'M LIKE, THAT'S A THIEF OF TIME! I LOOK AT MY PENIS AND I GO PENIS, MORE LIKE SEER OF HOPE! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i miss the early 2010s

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I liked it, anon.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Relevant to your interests, /tg/.
    https://xamag.itch.io/fantroll-creator

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wow it's just like the early 2010s again

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yep. This is definitely an app that works.
      It can do human skintones too.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Been a while since I saw a Troll maker. Pretty decent one too, I appreciate something that lets me make legit gremlins.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >not drawing your trolls yourself
      Shiggy diggy
      Also I used to know Xamag, she's a bitch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >she's a bitch
        how?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Took a commission from me, stopped replying to my messages midway and began ghosting me. Thankfully that was before I paid her.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      here's another (plus a different template for artfags) http://www.farragofiction.com/DollSim/viewParts.html?type=2

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    rope

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      bombs?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You want it, it's yours my friend, as you as you have enough boondollars!

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are multiple homebrews out there some of them posted in the thread about this that was posted just a few days ago.

    Is Hussie planning on something? Feels like shilling/attention mongering.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Is Hussie planning on something? Feels like shilling/attention mongering.
      Hussie has too much PTSD to ever touch something like homestuck again.
      Stealth homestuck threads pop up every now and then because homestuck is banned on /co/, but autists get the itch to talk about it.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fellow rage lads report

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Aye, we in the house

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      honestly, a good chunk of Ganker are gonna be Rage aligned. Especially anyone that's a 4chan crossposter. If they weren't they wouldn't be here.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I really sometimes wonder if being exposed to bullshit black "romances" as young impressionable teens has led to some of the fandom getting into toxic and abusive relationships. Hopefully, people are less dumb than I think.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm guessing that it was inevitable with or without the "black romance" trope, given the demographics of the average HS fan.
      They're definitely calling their friends their "moirails" and such though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Hopefully, people are less dumb than I think.
      Speaking as someone who was still minor a few years ago, I can confirm that's not the case. They're much worse.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sure but probably best suited for vidya since some mechanics are better handled by an automated process.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw either mage of heart or heir of space

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All Bards report

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are already multiple decent to good Homestuck TTRPGs, maybe try using google first before posting on here.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >says this
      >doesn't share
      They aren't good and you know it.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Off topic, but is the comic worth it ? Im currently ~2500 pages in and the trolls are boring me to death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes and no. Don't expect a remotely satisfying ending. As for the trolls, yeah they're pretty boring at first, but you might grow to enjoy them over time. It's also really satisfying once you get back to the kids again. I wouldn't be here writing out lengthy posts if I wasn't passionate about Homestuck, but it's definitely a flawed story. Still, once you get through Act 5 Act 1, Act 5 Act 2 is real fun, and probably the closest thing the story has to a good finale. Honestly, once you get to the end of Act 5 ( [s] Collide, for context) you should treat that as the ending of Homestuck. You can keep reading if you're really compelled to do so by then, but it gets painfully slow and doesn't have much payoff.

      What you should really take a look at though is Problem Sleuth, now that's a fun webcomic.

      >if we want to keep having these threads.
      Anon I…ur a faget. No one cares about your troll hatesex simulator or dogfutas. Just stop and get some professional help.

      >No one cares about dogfutas
      Do you know where you are?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They get better.
      But then they get wayyy worse. May or may not be worth it just stop when you feel like you've had enough is my best advice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Much like genuine Masochism, it takes a certain type of person to enjoy homestuck, especially now that the experience is over, and you don't have a schizo community to suffer through it with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No. At the end it goes full Davekat, and it's all downhill from there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get to cascade, then quit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it gets worse for a while and then peaks at Cascade which is absolute kino. Stop after that

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Idk

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, stop making this thread, it just fills up with personality-quiz-dollmaker fags. Go join a freeform discord RP with the other 16 year olds that are just finding out about the comic through deltarune

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    tg plays sburb wheeeeeeeeeen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a job for qst.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never ever.
      Fa/tg/uys don't actually play games, just argue about them online.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I remember posting in several gamefinder threads about hosting a Sburb game a few years back. Despite my efforts I got literally one respondent, who admittedly was really passionate about it and we got along well. It never took off, but hey... I managed to get a boyfriend out of it in the end.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Fuck it, I'm curious enough to check. If I actually tried running a Sburb game, whether pbp or over voice, how many people would be interested? I'm guessing it's not actually many, but reply to this post if you would.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You've got one for pbp. If nothing else than to say I tried it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I would. I've been talking to a friend of mine about it and he's down too if I'm involved.

              Sure.
              I'd be willing to give it a try.

              I'm interested, but only if it's PBP or text chat-based.

              I'd be interested. The most interesting, gonzo-ass games ive played spanned from joining on Ganker games. So im down for gambling on the highest highs and lowest lows. Either result makes it on my podcast.

              Alright, fuck it. The game definitely won't start for a bit and will be pbp (maybe with occasional voice sessions?) but you can add me on Discord so we can fuck around and find out. LimmKey#3402

              I'd be down but what system are you thinking of running it with?

              Not 100% sure yet, but don't expect something super rules-heavy and crunchy. It might be something extremely custom, or it might just be kitbashed out of my own ideas and a rules-light system like PBTA. If anyone has any recommendations I'll keep them in mind.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I would. I've been talking to a friend of mine about it and he's down too if I'm involved.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Imma put myself as a distinct "maybe" in the sense of "don't rely on me for there to be a game but if you've got one anyway..."

            Because
            >50/50 chance y'all are too autistic (or otherwise obnoxious) for me to stand it for too long, especially if voice, if my short experience on the Ganker modded Minecraft server and with HS fans is anything to go by
            >I'm very busy
            >I am very flaky (but I'm expecting the game to flake anyway)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Sure.
            I'd be willing to give it a try.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm interested, but only if it's PBP or text chat-based.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'd be down but what system are you thinking of running it with?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              F.A.T.A.L.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'd be interested. The most interesting, gonzo-ass games ive played spanned from joining on Ganker games. So im down for gambling on the highest highs and lowest lows. Either result makes it on my podcast.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never ever.
      Fa/tg/uys don't actually play games, just argue about them online.

      There was

      Previous thread: [...]
      I'm the anon with server access and Ganker skills. if we wanted to make a forum for this what kind of software would we use

      and I think someone else last thread who were thinking about a server for it. It could happen.
      ...technically.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Would be nice to have a freeroam sburb ttrpg

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how would a sburb session with random anons from /tg/ even go?
    >the time player manages to get enough copies of himself so he can make a circle where he buttfucks himself
    >the two powergamers that immediately rushed to get god tier
    >the one guy that sprited a figurine of his waifu and proceeded to not leave the house
    >the space player genociding every single frog

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I destroy any issues you gays cause as the Prince of Doom. You're welcome, anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Here's your first assignment.

        You're all fucked now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Here's your first assignment.[...]

      >That one Mage of Mind player
      >No ones even sure what hes doing but hes DOING something
      >Why won't he reply at all and then ask for objects to alchemize with?
      >Seriously what is he doing?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This image annoys me simply because a 2009 PC game would come in a clamshell case. 😛
    >TQ
    Solid maybe! I'd like to hope so, though.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The whole joke is that the game mechanics are bad. Hussie repeatedly asked "hey, remember how 80's adventure games sucked?" and his reader base repeatedly said "No, we don't, we weren't alive for that."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He shouldn't have made it so much fun then.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when /tg/ was literally just Touhou + Homestuck + Occasional MLP posting?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm too much of a newfag unfortunately. What was it like, papa?

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    who SNOWMAN here?

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shai'Hulud.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bless you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      wweh

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mage of time here to remind you that we will keep having these threads until one or more of you figures this out

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mientras tanto, los MAGOS DEL TIEMPO!

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most common Ganker classpects as remembered by some jackass.
    >CLASSES
    Mage
    Page
    Bard
    >ASPECTS
    Void
    Rage
    Breath

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah that tracks.

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://jennamoran.tumblr.com/post/142394737638/a-users-guide-to-the-apocalypse-homestuck-au
    You tell me

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be on a different PC
    >It doesn't have my filters on
    >See this thread still in the catalog
    /tg/ is officially a zed.

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Yaldabaoth is the final boss of this session
    >Can anons of /tg/ beat him?

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it good?

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >always wanted to write a fancomic
    >sburb but in a forum setting where people in different sessions can talk and interact with each other
    >we'd accompany a single group of players at first but would get to know others while the session goes on
    >final objective is trying to connect the multiple universes that spawn
    I've even wrote a bit of info but abandoned it. It wasn't much, like one of them was a church girl that was a Witch of Void, a Knight of Breath, a Rogue of Time and a fucking Mage of Mind.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and a fucking Mage of Mind
      Interesting, tell me more

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I planned to use Sollux as an example of what a mage could do, since he felt death approaching and knew it would happen, the mage of mind would be a smart guy that would just do his own thing and end up helping everyone figure how sburb works, he would come accross ideas randomly that are mostly correct and would be good at puzzles. But he would quite frequently overthink, get caught in his own thoughts for a long while and end up getting stuck without being able to make a decision since he doesn't know if it would be correct.
        Honestly Mages are pretty vague but since they're opposite of Seers, they'd be experiencing their aspects more and having internal knowledge of it instead of seeing and being guided towards it.
        But I know I'd end up writing him like that one Sherlock copypasta since I'm not a smart man.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sollux on drugs as Sherlock and karkat as Watson would give for some very funny stroies

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So mage is intuition without direction to contrast seers direction without the need to truly understand.
          Nice

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Pretty much, that is why I argue that Mage of Mind is one of the most meta-powerfull classpects, since it is knowledge about knowledge (on themselves, others and everything around them) itself. I'd say is on par with a Seer of Time or a Prince of Rage

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Mind isn't Knowledge per say.
              It's Cognition and Causality.
              A Mage of Mind would be aware of all minds within their range of influence, and be privy to their contents. Including - especially - their own.
              A Mage of Mind would know the outcomes of all possible decisions within their range of influence, and the outcomes of decisions which will arise from those decisions ad infinitum, with terrifying accuracy. They would also be capable of infer information that technically falls outside of the preview of their Aspect via close inspection of the choices that exist or could exist.
              A Mage of Mind would experience difficulty getting this Classpect to influence others, perhaps its difficult to articulate or there's some other contrivance at play, but for whatever reason this role works best when primarily impacting or serving the user.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're correct. Typical mindfag thinking their autism gives them additional knowledge when the light aspect is RIGHT THERE

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Light classpects seem to be OP in general.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe, but it wouldn't be because knowledge is separate from Mind.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh no I'm not that anon I was just tossing in that no matter the class Light seems OP.
                Don't no why I got Mage of Light I'm not that cool.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Light Aspect is all about Illumination and Contrast. There are double meanings sprinkled here and there. be aware that all interpretations are equally likely to manifest.
                A Mage of Light would know of and about photons, but also of knowledge - their eyes alive with inner light, erudition, and revelation. Simultaneously, they would be capable of harvesting more information through the application of knowledge or literal photons.
                A Mage of Light would possess deep comprehension of diametric contrasts - good & evil, hot & cold, fortunate & unfortunate, and would be wield an active awareness of those pairings. They would likely also be able to discern otherwise undetectable details about the world around them by reflecting upon this bank of comprehension.
                As with the Mage of Mind, most of these applications would tend to turn themselves onto the user before others. A Mage of Light *knows* what they know, and they are also intensely aware any dichotomy within them or which they may be part of.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not to shit on you but that reads like cold reading and bullshit

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > Sounds like BS
                Yeah?
                Not really sure what you were expecting dude. It's not like there's a concrete official explanation for Classes and Aspects to draw from.
                Every explanation of Classpect's will be 75% fanon because the mechanics for HS' setting exist simply to serve the coming-of-age narrative that Hussie wanted to write.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but I mean you're not doing a good job at giving definitions to the classpects, I know it will be fanon but still it reads so vague and ambiguous you might as well be saying nothing at all. I know it's your goal and everything I didn't meant to sound rude I just wanted to point that out

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A Mage of Light is one who {Knows} [Light] and {Knows} through [Light].
                This role may grant the user:
                > A brilliant intellect
                > Knowledge concerning the nature of information
                > Knowledge concerning the nature of light.
                > Knowledge concerning the nature of contrasting forces and concepts
                > Knowledge about specific instances of information, light, or dichotomous phenomena
                > An ability to expand the aforementioned comprehension by leveraging their pre-existing knowledge base in various ways
                > An ability to expand the aforementioned comprehension by utilizing light itself.
                > An ability to expand the aforementioned comprehension by exploiting disparity in some capacity.
                That's all. The powers offered by this Classpect don't grant any flashy superpowers - taken right out of the box, they probably aren't going to let you shoot lasers from your eyes or create miniature stars in the palm of your hand. However, they *do* keep the user extremely well-informed, and the insight they provide could be applied to help alchemize powerful items and equipment.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >talking down mind players
                >advocating the light aspect
                >mindfag
                she's right there your honorable tyranny, take her away boys.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the fuck you on light is about luck and causality not knowledge

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no knowledge aspect at all.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There is no knowledge aspect at all.

                Fauntleroy initially envisioned Terezi in the Vriska role, hence the Two-Face coin flipping gimmick, and Light ending up being straight luck, while Mind had to be corralled into some bizarre, non-knowledge aspect to retroactively justify the coin flips without infringing on luck.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's a bit of misinterpretation as Light definitely has perception under it's purview but perception doesn't equal knowledge. It just refers to how much data can be acquired not how well it's used.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I misspoke here it should be "perception doesn't equal intelligence".

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >church girl that was a Witch of Void
      Slightly interested. What's her deal?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I liked the idea of a church girl with a nun aesthetic being a Witch of Void, I was mostly thinking with my dick but I always thought about her being conflicted with her emotions due to her role, since she's very religious so being a witch and also ending up have to deal with the horrorterrors, so that would be her initial conflict and her cope was that it was a mission from God, but eventually she would change her views, trying to understand what God is instead of just blind faith.
        It would be mostly a test of faith for her, even her land was one of Darkness. I remember her strife specibus would be of the umbrella kind and she would use it to fly around like Mary Poppins.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >her strife specibus would be of the umbrella kind and she would use it to fly around like Mary Poppins.
          Cute!

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Homestucksona thread
    What, were Sonic the Hedgehog OCs too emotionally nuanced for you all?

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    answering this seriously? no, there is no good way to translate sburb into an actual game in its given form.
    i say this as someone who has read through the whole thing no less than three times, hates the fandom, and genuinely enjoyed the epilogue: the game is broken and the rules are incomprehensible
    the characters all end up with broken powers because of unusual circumstances, and the timeline is borked from the beginning. on top of that, the rules are largely unexplained and interpretive, as even the characters spend half the time trying to figure it out
    maybe if the game as it was meant to be played was shown you could derive some set of rules from it, but as it stands now anything you make would either be unplayable or completely different from the original
    for a good example of how difficult it would be to translate into a playable form, just try looking up the class system and how it works

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > I say this as someone who ... genuinely enjoyed the epilogue

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Terezi and John bit was great and as horrible as the clown-cucking was its was also hilarious.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i found the divergent, crossing timelines to be an interesting plot device, and its implications are continued on in the sequel. plus the twist about who the narrator was genuinely got me, despite them playing with that idea throughout the main series
        more than anything by that point the fandom was pissing me off and the epilogue felt like it was trolling the hardcore fans, and that made me smile more than anything

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      From what I understand, it's basically Garry's Mod, but someone's layered an attempt at an MMO underneath it.

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No it wouldn't. Sburb as a game can be so easily broken by a myriad of things going wrong that the game has no way to account for it other than going for a "doomed timeline" which can ALSO be broken via the usage of space and/or time players. No one knows the rules of Sburb since it constantly breaks itself down due to god-tiers and other shenanigans that it turns into something unrecognisable.
    If you want to turn Sburb into an RPG or to DM it in some way, you'll have to just create Sburb as you THINK it would be in your head because the "official" sburb in the comic is complete nonsense. In that sense, go fucking wild and crazy with how the rules should be and make a sburb that ACTUALLY makes a lick of sense.

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