They fly using the instruments, part of getting your full pilot license involves taking off and landing with the cockpit windows entirely obscured. JFK Jr famously crashed his plane and fucking died flying at night without being instrument certified
there's a hilarious, ancient DCS A-10 video thats like a minute long where the "player" is panicking while starting the jet and every warning is going off and it ends with the plane exploding on the runway
wish i could find it
>Why didn't they just land on a road?
The pilots lost control of the plane when the bulkhead and vertical stabilizer blew off. All the hydraulics were gone and they could only barely control the plane through throttle control. That and they were surrounded by mountains during most of the incident.
All 3 hydraulic systems (1 main, 2 backups) had failed which was previously thought to be impossible and they lost their vertical stabilizer, so they had no control of the plane. They improvised control by manually riding the throttle of each engine. They ran the same scenario in a simulator and nobody was able to keep the plane in the air as long as the real JAL123 pilots
If they could land they wouldn't have crashed
you know the big tailfin thing at the back? That's not for show. If you lose that your plane can't fly anymore. Actually it's a fucking miracle they kept it in the air as long as they did, they basically spent hours balancing on a ball trying to roll them to their deaths
AA587, another example of how the vertical stabilizer is so important
>Why didn't they just land on a road?
The pilots lost control of the plane when the bulkhead and vertical stabilizer blew off. All the hydraulics were gone and they could only barely control the plane through throttle control. That and they were surrounded by mountains during most of the incident.
All 3 hydraulic systems (1 main, 2 backups) had failed which was previously thought to be impossible and they lost their vertical stabilizer, so they had no control of the plane. They improvised control by manually riding the throttle of each engine. They ran the same scenario in a simulator and nobody was able to keep the plane in the air as long as the real JAL123 pilots
Yeah they tried with something like 10 other pilots in the simulator and they all failed long before hitting the 30 minutes the JAL123 pilots managed. It's like driving a car without a steering wheel or wheels, based pilots
Yeah they ended up using that dual throttle technique in the Sioux City accident saving 185 people, because they had heard about JAL123 and learnt from the reports, so his legacy went well beyond just that crash
>Dennis E. "Denny" Fitch, 46, a training-check airman aboard Flight 232 as a passenger, was hired by United in 1968. He estimated that, prior to working for United, he had accrued at least 1,400 hours of flight time with the Air National Guard, with a total flight time around 23,000 hours. His total DC-10 time with United was 2,987 hours, including 1,943 hours accrued as a flight engineer, 965 hours as a first officer, and 79 hours as a captain.[1]:11,113 Fitch had learned of the 1985 crash of Japan Air Lines Flight 123, caused by a catastrophic loss of hydraulic control, and had wondered if it was possible to control an aircraft using throttles only. He had practiced with similar conditions on a simulator.[7]
you know the big tailfin thing at the back? That's not for show. If you lose that your plane can't fly anymore. Actually it's a fucking miracle they kept it in the air as long as they did, they basically spent hours balancing on a ball trying to roll them to their deaths
DCS's VR performance can be a bit spotty with VR but the fact there's usually fully clickable cockpits helps nicely with immersion
IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad would be another contender, that's solely WW2 though
DCS if you wanna learn how to fly a plane for real and spend the hours reading a manual to fly it
War Thunder if you don't mind grinding Mechwarrior: Living Legends, you can VTOL/aerospace plane and fuck mechs up
OVERSPEED
OVERSPEED
OVERSPEED
OVERSPEED
OVERSPEED
WE GAAN
AUBERGINE
AUBERGINE
PULL UP
TERRAIN
PULL UP
TERRAIN
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
Hearing your wings creak when pulling Gs in a spitfire can be tense
what game? Sturmovik?
yep, 1946 for the most part
For me it's the whistling of the air over the gun ports when close to stalling in the P-51
jesus stop it just stop
BANKANGLE
BANKANGLE
BANKANGLE
CLIMB
CLIMB NOW
>CLIMB NOW
The most famous TCAS related accident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkYiJgaVFw&ab_channel=Plane%27nBoom
that felt so hard to watch
DESCEND DESCEND
DESCEND DESCEND
The descent was so violent to avoid collision they ended up injuring half the plane
I imagine the pilots made a huge prayer once they heard that "clear of conflict".
Imagine waking up for a just another unremarkable day of work as a pilot and ending up in a Wikipedia article about the worst near miss of all time
But it was a miss!
>OH N-
>back had the most injuries but the middle sustained the fewest yet were more serious
Interesting..
the middle section probably bore the brunt of the majority of the g-forces whereas the back/front were jostled more I suppose
RETARD
RETARD
IM TRYING MY BEST STOP IT
STOP
>be me
>trying to take off
DONT SINK
DONT SINK
DONT SINK
the sounds are scary bros, how the fuck do pilots fly at night or with heavy clouds without shitting themselves?
They fly using the instruments, part of getting your full pilot license involves taking off and landing with the cockpit windows entirely obscured. JFK Jr famously crashed his plane and fucking died flying at night without being instrument certified
damn what a fucktard, just like his old man
at low altitude even with instruments it can be disorienting
APU FIRE
LEFT ENGINE FIRE
RIGHT ENGINE FIRE
DIDDLE DIDDLE
FLIGHT CONTROLS
CHAFF FLARE
CHAFF FLARE
CHAFF FLA-
t.bms player
BANK ANGLE
BANK ANGLE
BANK A-
Cockpit beaches is Elite Dangerous is the closest I’ve felt to a physical reaction to imaginary danger
the other space men would call me paranoid but I'd never go out without a full suit and depressurized cabin
WOOP WOOP
PULL UP
WOOP WOOP
PULL UP
?si=iIpu0bxEuzvUAQJn
>you're about to die in a fiery death and you you hear is
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
>tfw the plane calls you a retard
I love this game.
those planes don't yell at you tho they're too old
BBBBBBBBBBUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
WE
*click*
there's a hilarious, ancient DCS A-10 video thats like a minute long where the "player" is panicking while starting the jet and every warning is going off and it ends with the plane exploding on the runway
wish i could find it
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY?
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY?
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY?
WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY?
boomer 'ere
>in vehicle
>hear https://youtu.be/nN4LvyO6U1Q?si=f75ODTLWbyiPhmNC&t=1276
>dead by the time your brain processes it
WULULULULULULU
For me, it's
>zinnnnnng... zap zap zap zap zap zap zap zap
>tfw OVERSPEED and PULL UP simultaneously
most guys just say oh god oh god or some sort of variation like that
never heard anyone scream actually but also there were never any women in any of the cockpits either
t. listened to a lot of airline crash audio
>listening black box audio
>pilot realizes he's fucked
>"BUY [Waifu's] GAM-"
only a matter of time
Getting a MISSILE LAUNCH in vtol vr
WHOOP WHOOP
OH SHIT
WE'RE GONNA DI-CRASH
the whoop whoop hivemind
WHOOP WHOOP
< < MISSILE WARNING > >
WHOOP WHOOP
< < MISSILE WARNING > >
TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP
....
....
....
TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP
*PEW*
*DOOR WOOSH*
TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP TAP
NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED!
CHOOSE YOUR FIGHTER
>Bonin only E tier
son I am disappoint
Where is he?
This was nightmare fuel
Why didn't they just land on a road? Japan in the 80s was a utopia and was much highly developed compared to the rest of the world
>in a completely mountainous area while missing your fin
>hey bro why don't you just land on a road
AA587, another example of how the vertical stabilizer is so important
>Why didn't they just land on a road?
The pilots lost control of the plane when the bulkhead and vertical stabilizer blew off. All the hydraulics were gone and they could only barely control the plane through throttle control. That and they were surrounded by mountains during most of the incident.
All 3 hydraulic systems (1 main, 2 backups) had failed which was previously thought to be impossible and they lost their vertical stabilizer, so they had no control of the plane. They improvised control by manually riding the throttle of each engine. They ran the same scenario in a simulator and nobody was able to keep the plane in the air as long as the real JAL123 pilots
Shinto windo gods guiding them
Yeah they tried with something like 10 other pilots in the simulator and they all failed long before hitting the 30 minutes the JAL123 pilots managed. It's like driving a car without a steering wheel or wheels, based pilots
sounds like the captain really knew his shit too
Yeah they ended up using that dual throttle technique in the Sioux City accident saving 185 people, because they had heard about JAL123 and learnt from the reports, so his legacy went well beyond just that crash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232
>Dennis E. "Denny" Fitch, 46, a training-check airman aboard Flight 232 as a passenger, was hired by United in 1968. He estimated that, prior to working for United, he had accrued at least 1,400 hours of flight time with the Air National Guard, with a total flight time around 23,000 hours. His total DC-10 time with United was 2,987 hours, including 1,943 hours accrued as a flight engineer, 965 hours as a first officer, and 79 hours as a captain.[1]:11,113 Fitch had learned of the 1985 crash of Japan Air Lines Flight 123, caused by a catastrophic loss of hydraulic control, and had wondered if it was possible to control an aircraft using throttles only. He had practiced with similar conditions on a simulator.[7]
at that point the plane is just sort of going where it wants
If they could land they wouldn't have crashed
you know the big tailfin thing at the back? That's not for show. If you lose that your plane can't fly anymore. Actually it's a fucking miracle they kept it in the air as long as they did, they basically spent hours balancing on a ball trying to roll them to their deaths
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
RETARD
>That audio from the Japanese plane that hit the mountains
WE GAAN
OUT OF OUR WAY PAN-AM FUCKING SHITS
MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP-
MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE MISSILE
>PULL UP
If it knows you need to pull up then why can't it just do it automatically?
did the 9/11 goat hijackers get a terrain pull up warning? Or just overspeed warnings?
for the towers just overspeed
for the pentagon it was a missile
*TKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTKTK*
Is there a 'Ganker recommend VR cockpit simulators'?
DCS's VR performance can be a bit spotty with VR but the fact there's usually fully clickable cockpits helps nicely with immersion
IL-2 Battle of Stalingrad would be another contender, that's solely WW2 though
I know this is a plane crash threads but What are some good games where I can airchav?
Don't mind combined arms
DCS if you wanna learn how to fly a plane for real and spend the hours reading a manual to fly it
War Thunder if you don't mind grinding
Mechwarrior: Living Legends, you can VTOL/aerospace plane and fuck mechs up