>it's huge a downgrade
Why is this so common?
>sequel game. >it's huge a downgrade
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Both of these games are ungodly bad but I guess 2 is better because it feels like it knows it's awful and runs with it, 3 tries so hard but still ends up being a massive turd from start to finish and it's just kind if sad.
Eunie's better for having a semblance of personality compared to rex's hole #1
Eunie's personally is nothing more than muh boss bitch in a chav accent if we gonna play this downplaying game
not really, Eunie is actually pretty fragile when shit hits the fan
And Pyra's strong when she needs to be like during her 'kidnapping'
I was responding to the bait anon
play game in the actual language then instead of the butchered localization
Yes I wish Eunie showed more of her chest. But yes, she was great and her voice was pure sex
Idk what games but right looks hotter.
>pits visible on left but not right
I can tell you from someone who has never played these games that left is better because PITS
trying to mass appeal
Why the cherypicking? why aren't they both in their swimsuit costume for this comparison?
It wouldn't suit my narrative.
because that pic was made before 3 was even out
left is the new one
and it's a downgrade, dumbo
Because it doesn’t make his dick as hard. The only metric these brain-addled freaks are able to measure a game by is by their cool potential, rather than the actual contents of the story, gameplay, and characters.
I want to have sex with Mia so bad, a good cosplay would be fine too I guess.
>tfw my fiance said she'd do bedroom cosplay of Melia
When your eventual wife is willing to also be your waifu, that's when you know you've made it.
these are goals right here
have a nice day normalfag
Still waiting for artists to do this pose with characters, some are based and some are unbased. Wish I cared about Xenoblade to appreciate this wing lady doing it.
3 is a better game though. It just has less coomerbait
>Six years old
jesus, what were they thinking?
C'mon anon don't play stupid, Homura and Hikari aside, whether you like fanservice or not, the various blades in 2 provide WAYY more fanservice than anything in 3.
Yeah you'll be fine.
I'm not even a coomer but if I have to pick between a pile of shit and a pile of shit with a sexy half naked girl on top of it, I'm picking the one with a sexy half naked girl
it sold much less than 2
it's objectively the worse game
FE Engage sold worse than 3H. Is Engage a bad game?
No fire emblem game is good, no xenoblade game is good
Yep, Engayge is dogshit
Technically no, narratively yes.
But it sold worse than 3H.
So by anon's own logic
3H is the better game.
ff8 sold better than 9. is it the better game?
engage is censored therefore its shit
The measure that you're using would also mean that 3H is censored anon.
Not him, but most designs in Xb3 are downgrades aesthetically in my opinion. I get what they were going for, but it bores me.
>most designs in Xb3 are downgrades aesthetically
I don't like the style is what I'm saying. I get the more bleak militaristic tone of the game, but I simply don't like it.
I see. Well, I'm not a huge fan of how every character in 2 looks like Marche. To each their own
>would also mean that 3H is censored anon.
Which romantic S supports did 3H remove in the west?
You like this marvel shit?
>Super Sentai team up episode
>Anon sees marvelshit
you've rotted your own brain bro.
super sentai was woke before the west did it? omg
>Guardians of the Cringefest
I'm not a Fire Emblem fan but Wave 4 DLC is literally some Marvel shit. Don't talk about fanservice teamups while being unaware of what Xenoblade's been trying to do since X.
>breast reduction downgrade
What? Who? And when are any of the female FE chars even depicted with consistent breast sizes?
>Mfw A moment akin to this does happen at the end of Xenoblade 3
All they needed to say was "Ouroboros...Assemble!" and I would have clapped.
Yeah, that line up shot pretty much happens here. And they even reused the plot point of it happening after the past heroes had seemingly disappeared.
The whole game is blatant fire emblem Sentai. they even blatantly do the "Emblem Engage" before morphing into their mecha themed hero forms.
Why do Nintendo JRPGs keep flopping lately, despite the advertising push? Octopath 2 flopped also
Octopath 2 is multiplatform. Which makes me think you're not arguing in good faith, I assume the pic you used is frequently utilized for bait in Fire Emblem threads. Am I right?
Because we don’t live in Japan where said Genre is more popular?
Engage and Octopath 2 flopped in Japan.
Kusogage didn’t deserve to exist, hopefully they dump the rest of the DLC so that the next Echoes can be announced soon.
Echoes: Shadows of Jugdral when
Yes, Engage sucks ass. Gameplay can't carry how insufferable everything else is.
What's the best fire emblem to play on switch ?
I just got a switch and need waifus
There's only 2, 3Houses and Engage. Engage for more lighthearted anime style, and 3 Houses for more dark military stuff. Also 3 Houses has you as a teacher and you micro manage your students who are also your units. Which can be a turn off or a turn on
Engage no question
>To read or watch
Wait for FE7 on GBA NSO
Yes it is, only 3DSbabies love Engage
I want to like Engage but it feels sterile as fuck. Every time I play it I do a mission and then fuck around in the somniel for a bit then turn it off. Almost all of the characters are awful and everything feels disjointed. Pacing is weird. Idk. It feels great as far as the technicals but everything else feels completely void of any care.
>Is Engage a bad game?
You heard it here first, Xenoblade 2 is objectively a better game than bloodborne.
bloodborne sold more, but Ganker would indeed say xenoblade 2 is the better game
>bloodborne sold more
Source? only reports they have sets it at 2 million, seems weird they've never updated that number.
persona 5 is objectively a better than xenoblade 2 as well
And Final Fantasy XIII is objectively better than Persona 5.
>it sold much less than 2
It's been out for far less time.
you sure? I heard that 3's sales are on the same level as 2's
It's hard to make an unbiased judgement until Nintendo releases their next sales statement and we can objectively judge the legs of the game.
>Two colors in hair=vtuber
It didn't, but even then, 3 had much better reviews than 2, so by your logic 3 is objectively the better game while 2 is the worst in the series, worse than even X.
That's not really following anons logic at all. For the record, you're both retards.
>It just has less coomerbait
Isn't there an entire scene dedicate to cuckold shit with one of the main guys lmao?
You're thinking of when Mio and M switch bodies as M wanted N to stop being a psycho asshole, it isnt actually cuckshit and isnt meant to look that way to anyone besides N, who unironically thinks he's being cucked by Noah
Wasn't what I was talking about with Eunie and Taion though? IDK I remember someone posting a webm some time ago.
IDK it could very well have been some fanmade blender thing.
Are you talking about that video of Eunie and Ashera kissing? No that isn't actually in the game lmao
Yeah I think it was something like that I was a bit fucked up when I saw it though so that makes sense
Nah turns out I got fooled
Do you mean when Eunie calls Taion her forth best bud? To Eunie fortune clovers (four leaf clovers) are very important to her so she's just being cheeky
I just got a switch
Can I start with Xenoblade Chronicles 2 ?
Yeah, but you will not get some callbacks at the very end of the game, otherwise yes you can start with 2. Though I'd recommend you just start with the remake of 1 on Switch, unless you just really wanna play 2.
I mostly wanna play it because the waifus that Ganker always post
Good man. You'll enjoy 2, warts and all. The ending is better than 3's ending anyway.
Mythra > Pyra
Polite Pyra > Mean Mythra
The fact that Ganker cannot rationalize the idea of an anthology series changing art direction for the sake of preserving tone, instead choosing to blame it on censorship, is hilarious to me.
Xeno has always done this. XC2 secondaries are retarded
It's just shitposters bro. They aren't even "XC2 secondaries" they've probably never played any of the games but just wanted to shit on 3 so they ranted nonstop about censorship.
You're both wrong. Ganker is simply extremely paranoid about censorship. Are there bad actors and trolls? Yes, no shit. But those don't stand for everyone.
We're talking about Xenoblade 3 though, there's no legitimate reason to claim censorship on that game. Bad Actors and Trolls literally makes up 100% of XB3's censorship complainers. This isn't like FE Engage, where i can believe that SOME of the complainers are actually legitimate since they do have some basis for their complaints.
The people who are paranoid do have a basis, even if you can bring many arguments against it. From their perspective they can see that Xb3 has nothing like Kora for example and then draw conclusions based on that.
Well we are talking about localizers changing text because they didn't like the meaning or were given directives to change things for NA audiences no? Plenty of that in 3H, and the previous games too for that matter. And in Xenoblade games also.
>they can see that Xb3 has nothing like Kora for example
So what? XC1 and XCX didn't have a character like Kora either.
And now after 2 some may expect all further games to keep with the same level of fanservice. Also uncensored XCX did have a boob slider and some big e-boicon service, but that's not really important here. I'm just trying to explain a certain line of thinking. I'm not actually trying to argue with you.
>XC1 and XCX didn't have a character like Kora either.
They do though. In the Wii version of XC1 there's no Fashion Gear. All the women there have a version of their armor sets where their buttcheeks are hanging out. Same for XCX (which was censored for US release in the case of Lin).
>which was censored for US release in the case of Lin
and the fundoshi for everyone
It's funny to me that we're still having this conversation about whether Xenogears and Saga and Blade 1 and X were coomerbait as much as 2 or not
Because the answer is obviously Yes and No (and 3 is in line with the prior games in this regard).
Yes, options were there or choice moments were shown where characters were naked (Xenogears famously had to cut a scene short because there were a few frames of nipple that wouldn't have gotten past Sony Standards and Practices).
But the sex appeal is not as persistent as 2 (where it was baked into a handful of core character designs).
>But the sex appeal is not as persistent as 2 (where it was baked into a handful of core character designs).
Come off it. Before DE there was no option to reject coming across some skimpy armor sets because armor in every new biome was just better than the previous one, unless you were willing to take more damage and overlevel as a result just to not see Sharla's cheeks and cleavage.
If Gears were made today people would still accuse it of the same hypersexuality that people accuse 2 of. If Takahashi had the cash to fund Saga wholly then we'd see more shower and bed cutscenes.
The sex appeal of the other games is as persistent as 2. You act as if only character designs can be sexually appealing, when actions can be, and there were more sexually actions in the old games than in 2. I'd say Elly in bed would be more arousing than Pyra's basic look. It's also on the player to let basic female body parts distract them from the game. It's not like Pyra's taking her tits out like KOS-MOS does with D Teneritas in PxZ.
It's hypocritical to say that Pyra/Mythra just being themselves distracts people from whatever's going on in the scene because they're too shapely and hot, but Eunie doesn't and she wears a latex onesie with a jacket and no underwear, squatting all over the place.
>there were more sexually actions
*more sexually appealing actions
I genuinely don't understand why reddit decided that XC2 is some degenerate eroge. Is it literally just Dunkey who decides these things?
Sexually attractive females in any game make it a degenerate eroge in the eyes of reddit, resetera, twitter, and every other pozhole on the internet.
Unless they look like a goblina like the Last of Us 2's ultra explicit sex scene, it's all just female objectification. It's why women in the western games look like they were either hit with a shovel at birth or are 50 years old.
I think it's a combination of western culture (read: USA) of shitting on 'anime' games, nerds like Dunkey, and Nintendo fans' general lack of exposure to more adult kinds of anime which are not necessarily hentai. I'd also add the recent progressive movement in video games where female characters are intentionally made uglier for "realism".
>the core character designs of your main heroines (combined with a generally more pop-art color palette) are more sexualized in general than in previous games
I still disagree if not just because of KOS-MOS and what Shion is wearing in Ep 3.
But I understand where you're coming from, and I think that 2 being seen as this evil anime fanservice game is nothing more but people's ignorance and bias at work.
>Not to say Sharla or Fiora's outfits weren't sexualized as well but they were able to be changed AND they weren't as sexual as Pyra's or Mythra's
Some of Sharla's sets like the Makna one is just as revealing. And we can't forget Fiora's infamous Speed Frame.
>Some of Sharla's sets like the Makna one is just as revealing. And we can't forget Fiora's infamous Speed Frame.
Again, I would never say XB1 or X or 3 don't have sexy stuff in them. I just think it's a little easier to avoid or forget about for most people when it's not the mostly static outfits of your main heroines
I'm not debating that but I'm just saying that in 2, the core character designs of your main heroines (combined with a generally more pop-art color palette) are more sexualized in general than in previous games
Not to say Sharla or Fiora's outfits weren't sexualized as well but they were able to be changed AND they weren't as sexual as Pyra's or Mythra's
I need to be clear that I like Pyra and Mythra's designs. I like them as they are in 2. I'm just saying that I think those designs being hard-set combined with the new aesthetic gave people a sense that the game was more sexualized than 1 or X.
Dunkey mostly. Also being anime.
Like, Dunkey would have dunked less hard on Leisure Suit Larry than he did XB2
its really hard to go from hyper sexualized xeno 2 designs to plain xeno 3.
also keep in mind the xeno 1 remake censored some outfits.
It didn't anon, buttcrack is still visible just not a texture.
they literally erased the crack for usa my dude
No you can still see her ass. It looks different because it's not just one texture anymore but as far as I remember DE still has the visible cutout of her ass just like the original.
First of all, calling it Xeno 2 outs you as a secondary from the get-go.
Second, the only hyper-sexualized designs in 2 were the blades, which are absent in 3. The human designs were extremely tame (see Morag, Driver Nia, Zeke, etc.), even compared to some of the average XC3 designs (Eunie, Ethel, Alexandria, etc.). People tend to really exaggerate how much coombait there was in 2 because of Pyra, Mythra, and Nia alone.
The main girl in 3 looks ugly as hell compared to the two main girls in 2 and only main girls actually matter
>main girl in 3 looks ugly
she's literally just Nia, who is very popular with XC2fags
But Mio is cute
Does she have human ears as well? Or just exclusively Cat Ears?
Thankfully only cat ears
Made for Oyakodon.
Exactly the Saga and Blade games are the inverse of each other. Xenosaga had fan service in 3, but toned it down in 2.
Usually because the original devs left the studio before or during the development of the game, the division 2, assassins creed and final fantasy are 3 great examples of this.
>Have to do 6 seemingly random quests throughout the game's runtime to unlock her
>She's the second worst hero in the game
Monolith's got fucking jokes, I swear.
>tfw finally dragging my ass through Origin
Holy shit, what a bad final area. There are literally no distinct landmarks at all.
Just purple, metal hallways with random containers and unique monsters around every corner. Not gonna lie, I put Lucky Seven and Auto-Battle to work for the first real time in my playthrough.
As someone who loves the gratuitous TnA in 2, Xenoblade 3 wasn't censored. That sort of style just didn't fit the theme of the game, and they said as much in a interview. Military drones wouldn't have any sense of style or fashion. It's novel we got what diverse outfits we did. It's why Masha feels like such a breath of fresh air, but at the same time, looks like a civilian on the front lines.
All in all, I hope to god the next game goes back to being more light hearted and out there with it's designs.
>Masha feels like such a breath of fresh air,
Masha looks like the type of visual vomit you'd see in Genshin Impact or a Vtuber. You people have fucking awful taste
If we're gonna be hyperbolic and exaggerate, large parts of the XB3 cast look like fodder characters in Valkyria Chronicles.
And Valkyria Chronicles is way fucking better than Genshin trash
It's fine. It fits her character and tells you a lot about her just from looking at her. She's dazzling and eyecatching, yet eccentric. She's literally one-of-a-kind in their world, both as a person and in her profession.
The only thing extra out there is her hair loop things that defy logic. But other than that, she's just a hot mature lady in a yellow dress with a lot of garden gnomeelry and dyed bangs.
She looks like someone told an AI to make a Vtuber.
It's not like Xenoblade is known for it's always subtle designs. Look at Shulk. This is iconic nonsense.
I mean let's be honest, they're all hit and miss to some degree.
Can we at least met in the middle and say that something more interesting than modified military fatigues but perhaps less garish than Masha would be a decent range to work in?
I don't know why you'd wanna keep arguing with someone who says the stupid "this looks like a Vtuber!" argument. But
>something more interesting than modified military fatigues but perhaps less garish than Masha would be a decent range to work in?
I think that would actually be most of 1's characters, and in terms of not upsetting normalfags they did well in that regard I guess.
Isn't Morag's outfit just a military outfit?
>inb4 b-b-but she's the only who wears that
implying visual consistency is bad thing
It is MUCH more stylized than the stuff we get in 3.
Besides, while I personally quite like the designs from 2, most people I'd imagine would say they're too busy.
If we're being honest, I prefer left over right. The sex doll bimbo body type never did it for me.
I just feel bad for Masha, that she got lightly cucked out of the spotlight she deserved thanks to the story DLC teaser.
Just be glad her skills are busted unlike Ino
what the fuck were they thinking with a skill that makes you stronger if you die with zero ways to speed that up other than being a tank, a tank that will lose aggro to the DPS because you need to die to actually get going
>no more gacha elements
That's a huge upgrade in my book
THIS, 2Fags keep putting on their rosetinted glasses but never bring up this retarded system
>another crossover autist thread
I would unironically rather have ACfag here.
otakutrannies got too cocky and needed to be reminded that they aren't welcome in any franchise
have a nice day
Genuinely why do you WANT coomer designs in a story like 3's? The people are essentially brianwashed to be nothing but killers and one of the main developments for the party is realizing these feelings between one another slowly throughout the game (like when the party learns of how babies are made, then Noah and Mio start looking at eachother differently). Hell why do you think the big focal point of the story, Oroboros, is done by interlinking between a man and a woman? 2 had sexy designs because it was meant to be a more lighthearted journey (in contrast, the villains are all tame)
>Nintendo RPG game gets meteoric new entry that hits a million sales for the first time in franchise history, despite being rather mediocre compared to its predecessors.
>Both games that these newfag fanboys relentlessly dicksuck get a follow-up that tries to be both an extended blowjob for them and also a super-duper gritty, serious story that's supposed to surpass their precious game, and winds up accomplishing neither too well.
- Xenoblade is Here -
>Follow-up has DLC that's supposed to tie everything together nicely, yet ultimately fails to do so and just everything a bigger mess.
>Shitty phone game gets frontlined instead to fleece all the new retards who only care about jacking off to their precious waifus.
That is all.
There's one problem here, Monolithsoft is a internal Nintendo studio owned by them. Whereas Intsys is integrated into Nintendo but legally independent. Meaning that if Nintendo doesn't feel like it there won't be a Xenoblade Heroes and Monolith doesn't solely rely on Xenoblade for their continued existence so they have less of an incentive to make such a game.
I don't get it.
Monilithsoft are the GOAT rpg team so nah. The only thing they would potentially do is a genshin style spin off game that is either a distant prequel or very distant sequel which can add to the lore without interfering with any plans they have for the overall series timeline
Alright buddy, time to put the tinfoil hat away and come back to the real world
>Finally get to Z in the story
>This gay starts monologuing about the Eternal Now AGAIN
Fucking STOP with the philosophic rambling holy shit. This game is stealing MY life force away whenever it does this. And it's not even smart philosophic rambling, it's just inane bullcrap followed by one of the party members saying
>"What? You're not making any sense!"
How THE FUCK was Mio so strong? Did she activate her dad's salvager genes
Agnians are the master race. Filthy Kevesi scum need Power Frames just to mimic a fraction of their power.
>N and M are confirmed to have fucked in the past, likely without a powerframe on hand
strong cat pussy...
>Agnians are the master race.
Homs > Humans
Rex had weak cuck sperm so all he had were daughter clones of his wives, meanwhile N's genes were so strong they overwrote all the cat blade DNA in M and she gave birth to HIS clone.
For those curious about sales, this is where we're at as of February 2023 for Nintendo first party RPG's.
It's worth considering that it took Xenoblade 2 5 years to get this point and so 3 is definitely still the fastest selling one but it looks like its legs were cut off hard after release. At this rate it might just barely reach 2's numbers. 2 million is probably the ceiling for the franchise and will probably stay that way unless they either do something drastically different next time or the next game launches with a new console which I think heavily worked in 2's favor.
I bet the next game will have action combat
I think the DLC and a smash roster spot will give it a pretty decent boost. Shulk and Rex coming back is more than enough to draw a ton of eyes towards it, much more so than Torna
Xenoblade 2Chads, will we EVER stop winning?
wtf animan draws women?
You never started winning.
I'm glad people aren't buying the censored shit.
genocide all weebs
go back resetfag
They tried to compromise the aesthetics of two games with very different, distinct visuals, and it just results in a very mundane, bland look.
>Why is this so common?
It's not, the vast majority of sequel games are improvements, people are just nostalgiafags who arbitrarily place value on things that come first.
>b-but xenoblade waifus
I'm actually answering your question
I started X2 a long time ago then dropped it. Picked it back up like a year later and put 65 hours into it. XCDE came out so I started that. Dropped after 35 hours. Came back months later and finished it. I bought XC3 but have never played it. Tried to go back to my XC2 save file but it’s been so long I have no fucking clue what I’m doing. Should I just watch the rest of 2 online and start 3 or should I start 2 over?
why are you even playing the series at this point? are you having fun playing the games?
Yeah I’m enjoying them but they’re long as fuck. I have 2 kids and work in project management so sometimes if a big project is going on I have stretches of time where I can’t play much at all. Just wondering if it’s worth starting 2 over again or not.. the gameplay mechanics are fairly extensive so picking it up from where I’m at is difficult, but 65 hours is a lot of time for me. This is my life anon..
you can probably lookup a quick combat guide on youtube and rewatch a few scenes in the event thing in the main menu to catch up to where you are in the story
Liked 2 and hated 3, but Eunie is sex incarnate, unless you're a colossal gay.
>more sales = betterer!!!!
So it's tendies that are saying this retarded shit?
Clearly you've never been in a monster hunter thread if you actually believe that.
that's an improvement
>enter daily xc3 seethe thread
Man I hate modern gaming. We can't have fan service without one side yelling COOMERBAIT OR BAD FAN SERVICE. I just want to play games with hot chicks and a good story. gays ruined gaming. I didn't buy three due to the lacking girls. and the moron. But I bought 2 and X day one.
Good, this series isn't for you anymore. Go buy some shovelware trash coomershit rpg maker from steam instead, that's more your speed.
How so? I play many rpgs and buy games that reward cute and hot character designs. I've probably played more games than you. I own a gaming pc, a ps5 and switch to play games from all platforms. Just because I choose to not buy one doesn't mean I won't support the next one if they go back on this.
Insecurity is showing anon. Tone in down next time
That has nothing to do with what I just told you though? It's fine to not have anything else to say. I enjoy games, and enjoy them more when there's hot chicks on screen. I will continue to do so until the fags take it all away from gaming. I really enjoyed xenoblade 2, and X. I hope the next one goes back that style of character design.
Imagine both of them taking a black cock
3's hero quest system is what 2's blade gacha system should have been
The thing is 2 had a few rare blades that were unlocked in the same way, just some retard decided that a gacha was a better idea
Nah, I think the Hero quests are a huge downgrade compared to what we got in 2. Almost all of the heroes are shit personality wise and pretty annoying. The quests themselves are almost all talking, with one bit for actually doing something, with most of them being a "go here and fight X". The only thing they contribute is stealing their mediocre abilities and trying to make them good on the characters you can control. Where Blades perfectly complemented their Driver because they actually have good abilities. The only thing that 2 needed was that more Blades needed to come from quests.
>expecting a mere mortal to be as busty as the Aegis
Well bros, I finally did it. After months of putting it off, I finished Xenoblade Chronicles 3.
And I gotta say, while it didn't do everything I'd hoped it would, that ending is easily one of the best in terms of bittersweet endings I've seen. The running against the shifting backdrop while the chorus plays in the background got a bro crying.
Overall, it was a good game. Damn good.
I think Chapter 7 was probably the most un-even chapter in the game. 6 was pretty good if you remember it includes the fight against N and Robo-Nia, The Clean-up around the castle, Miyabi AND Cloudkeep.
Chapter 7 is the one that felt really weak. Cris shows up and he gives a KH-tier writing speech to Noah that sounds like something we've heard and ends up just being a weaker version of the moment we had at the beginning of Chapter 6.
And then it's straight to Origin, which is a fun dungeon to fight but visually and narratively monotonous until the final boss fight.
I feel like they could have definitely done more to really tie the various main story and hero quest arcs together.
Yeah, I made the terrible mistake of trying to knock out a ton of sidequests right in the middle of Chapter 7 since there was so little going on and completely burnt myself out.
That, and I feel like a LOT of the Side Stories should have been mandatory. Except maybe Lanz. His felt the least important. And Eunie's just seems silly in retrospect. We don't talk about "Sena's" Side Story.
I did Sena's right before going into the Amphitheater to fight Z, after killing X, so she was still alive during the Side Story. I can rationalize it away as being a past cutscene, but no, it probably wasn't meant to be that way.
>Yeah, I made the terrible mistake of trying to knock out a ton of sidequests right in the middle of Chapter 7 since there was so little going on and completely burnt myself out.
I think this is one of the things that makes XB3 weird for a lot of people in general
The game's main-story pacing is completely shot because you're interrupting the story with other stories pretty frequently.
I think it's also why Chapter 5's ending is so compelling for so many people. I don't remember being able to leave the prison once you started, so you're basically on rails until the beginning of Chapter 6.
The issue is, in my opinion, the side content of 3 (including both normal colony quests and Hero quests) is actually narratively compelling compared to the majority of side quests in 1 or 2. In those games, Unless you were doing a Blade quest, I think most people were kind of only half paying attention to the writing. So you can do those quests for some EXP but it's more like you just hit pause on the main-story in your mind to go do some errands.
In 3, you're basically stopping the main story and starting a new, smaller, main story surrounding a different colony whenever you go off to do stuff for 4 or 9 or Iota or Gamma. So the main story loses its momentum with the players as a result of them literally forgetting what they were doing before half the time
>when Sena exists
tits are pretty sweet but come on you can't look at sena and tell me she isn't the sexiest fuckbeast fit for domming and subbing
You'd think so wouldn't you. But no, she really didn't land.
it's not fair. that's it, i'm going to wait for nyantcha to open comms.
euniebros stay wining
She really was the better girl in both looks and personality. Thank goodness she didn't get cucked like her Royal Majesty.
She does the cucking
Dammit. I was trying to find the edit of this scene where it's Eunie and Ashera kissing while Taion watches but I guess I didn't save it.
Too bad gay, she's darkskinned. But it doesn't matter since she isn't muscular. How can she get even worse over time?
I don't particularly care if she is or isn't darkskinned. She's not popular because despite the okay design, she lacks personality. Lacking personality is her character arc, and she never really gets one, she just says "It's okay to Be Yourself (tm)." over and over again.
Couple that with a lack of tits or ass and you've got a dud of a character.
I think Sena might be a raw example of the core issue with Xeno 3's premise: the 10 year time limit.
In that contextual amount of time, it seems unfeasible for a character to fully develop and be compelling when:
1. They're rapidly forced from children to teenagers/adults
2. Realistically, they have the mentality and knowledge of children who just know how to form words better, and with being in a war, there isn't much time to think within 10 years
If the time limit was 20 years, it might be better. We could see a Sena who puts on a rough and tumble front just to ignore her insecurities and lack of feminine appeal just to accentuate what she at least HAS going for her: a somewhat intruiging design with monsterous strength. Then you have a dynamic between the three females.
>The crude and energetic Eunie
>The calm and serene Mio
>The rough and edgy Sena
Feels like it would've made for better banter as well and given Lanz more to deal with for his own character.
The thing I hate most about Xeno 3's premise is the world. Aionios sucks.
How did we go from the awesome, lore important locations of 1 and 2, to the weirdly generic but not generic locations we got in 3. Like, they DO go to some relatively fantastical locations, but it's never important. The only time it is important is the prison, the Castles, and Origin. But other than that, Aionios has no history. It's just a uninteresting backdrop. Don't get me started on colonies.
But yeah, the 10 yr lifespan not only pigeonholes character development, but raises a ton of questions. Like, the idea that in the 1000 years Aionios existed, no one's ever seen their buddy die on the battlefield only to show up a couple months or even years later several years younger?? Or that animals have sex and reproduce? And just how the fuck do Nopon function in this world?
>Aionios has no history
That's the point
There's no lore because they catered to the newfags. They wanted people starting with XC3 to be able to start from there. I can understand it from a business perspective, but you're left with decisions that make the game half of what it should've been, pleasing nor the newfags nor the oldfags.
It also doesn't help that it falls into the same trap XG did, where it wastes way too much time on the fake war rather than delve into the shit that matters. And when we finally reach the point where we can go past this gay fake war we knew about since the beginning, the game basically ends. Or becomes a VN in XG, but, well, same shit.
You say this but 2 also catered to newfags. Just having a new world with its own new history is catering to new fags.
3 was trying to both appeal to new players and leave hints for old players.
There is history but it's not really allowed to have an impact on culture. I get the sense that Taion is weird for actually knowing the history of the world, compared to Mio or Noah or Eunie who don't even know that much. Taion seems to be the only one who learns much about it, likely because he's survey-corp and interested in historical patterns to determine shit like Black Fog effect and the like.
As for the Nopons, X mentions in Eunie's side story that they aren't supposed to interfere, whatever that means. Nopon aren't bound by the flame-clock system ever, so it does seem like they may have cut a deal with Moebius where they aren't bound to colonies by the flame clock system in return for them not spilling the beans on the Endless Now
I'm the opposite. Because everything you described about Aionios feels purposeful. It's a world that is meant to feel like it has no beginning or end, it's just an endless present. There's no history to look to and no future to look forward to. Moebius has gone out of its way to have the soldiers of Keves and Agnus never question why things are the way they are, why the war never makes any progress one way or the other in a significant way. They've attempted to scrub the world of its history and magic so that the war is literally the only thing that exists
I can understand being disappointed if you were hoping to get some more of the fantastic worlds of 1 and 2 but 3's world has merit in its own rights. 3's world is notable for how dead it's become under Moebius rule. 1's and 2's titans were dying due to villainous influence pushing the worlds and their inhabitants towards annihilation. 3's world a graveyard with the corpses of Titans and nations being kept on a painful life-support by a parasite feeding on their life-force
>There's no history to look to and no future to look forward to.
NTA but there are ranks in both Keves and Agnus, which are a Moebius invention. There's a future to look forward to, as well as Homecoming. Yes it's bleak but it's still the promise of a better future.
As for the past, I'll give you an olive branch and won't use the City. Instead, I'll use the Moebius. A big part of their characterization and motivations is the presence of a past life besides X, Y, and Z. Monickers like Smouldering Cammuravi and Silvercoat Ethel are a product of their past. So obviously, there's technically a past and future in the endless now, and Monolith could've easily attached meanings to locations if they could attach past and future elements to the characters.
No future in a grander sense, I meant
the ranks and the homecoming are meaningful on an individual level but you're never expecting the world itself to get better. Like, what's interesting to me is that none of the characters prior to getting released from the flame-clock system ever think about whether the war will ever end. None of them seem to care whether Keves or Agnus will win, or whether the war will ever end at all at any point in time.
As for a lack of a past, I meant, again, in a broader scale. Aside from when Taion pulls on particular historical events, it doesn't seem like any of the characters in XB3 outside of the City have knowledge or care for the history of their nations, their colonies or their world. As you mentioned with the City, I think that's actually what makes that location stand out compared to the colonies. The people of the City not only remember their history, they memorialize it (with both the wall of names and the hall of founders). At least some factions within the City look forward to a day when Moebius is defeated and the Endless Now comes to an end.
My point is that Moebius traps time within the span of a 10-year life cycle and thus they're trying to kill any sense of progress (and thus any sense of stagnation) as well as the development of any culture. Amalthus pulled a similar act on Blades after the Aegis War. If you have no sense of where you are in history, and your culture is never allowed to really progress because the churn of lives is so persistent, then you can never really become anything other than what Moebius tells you you are.
Smoldering Cammuravi and Silvercoat Ethel are a product of those characters' pasts but would they have those titles after they're reborn? Would those names stick in peoples memories in 2-3 generations?
It's strange because they casually mention many areas as if they do have a history surrounding them that we aren't privy to. Taion especially does this, with his casual info dumps on some characters, like Nu-Mumkhar. As for Nopons, I don't think it was ever explicitly brought up. I feel like I recall saying that they do live on their own lifespans though. And then there's Riku, who may be immortal or something? He's probably gonna be one of the original Ouroborous because of his deus ex machina with just so having to have the ultimate weapon just out of nowhere from the start. I don't know how I'd feel about that.
It also doesn't help during dialogues when the characters are all presented as reasonable, agreeable people and many of their lines could literally be said by any one of them. This doesn't happen much at the start but it becomes really prominent later on.
>Aionios has no history. It's just a uninteresting backdrop
lot of this is being saved for the DLC
>no one's ever seen their buddy die on the battlefield only to show up a couple months or even years later several years younger?
bodies are rotated amongst colonies, anyone who knew anything probably got killed or couldn't do anything about it
>Or that animals have sex and reproduce
implied to be flame clock suppression
>And just how the fuck do Nopon function in this world?
neutral entity between humans and moebius (obviously riku is an exception due to his lineage's link with melia and manana just rolls with him)
Animals aren't under control of the flame clocks
the psyches of humans are though, that was the point of the armu scene with noah and mio early on
The real problem is that everyone is basically the same character.
>hi i'm noah i'm a vat grown soldier who lost someone important to me in the war
>hi i'm mio i'm a vat grown soldier who lost someone important to me in the war
>hi i'm eunie i'm a vat grown soldier who lost someone important to me in the war
>hi i'm sena i'm a vat grown soldier who lost someone important to me in the war
It works for Noah and Mio because they have further plot relevance, Eunie is actually entertaining, but Sena has to carry her entire character on a wafer thin "I'm a bit insecure" bit.
Well she's brown so I'm not surprised she's not popular with nips
Sena strikes me as the tanned outdoorsy tomboy type, not the actually darkskinned type.
I don't even remember she exists
tits too small
Both characters are designed by the same person so what's exactly the point of this argument?
If you think every game is going to follow the same art direction then I wonder do you even play a lot of games. Directors tend to do some stuff different every-time even for direct sequels.
Is this a real mod or just something to be exported to Blender?
meant to reply to
Models got ripped ages ago.
There's no shot this isn't edited. We see her without her jacket all the time and her tits are not that big.
breast-reduction censorship enforced in-game
Pyra and mythra tits aren't that big either. Dahlia is bigger than everyone else on game
that is why she is the best rare blade in the game
>different people look different
how could they do this bros...
Another proof that XC2 fags are just coomers.
Why is there no feet art of eunie? She has stirrups
>Has Fire Blade blood
>No fire abilities whatsoever
What good is being a Blade Mutt anyways?
Agnians aren't taught how to tap into their blade powers, and Kevesi are supplied with power frames so that both sides are about evenly matched. Of course, there are some instances where Agnians naturally manifest their element like Cammuravi, and it makes them stand head and shoulders over the rest. If Ethel wasn't a battle savant who could fight Cammuravi on even terms, then he would have been assassinated by Colony 0 operatives for being too strong.
I gotta say, of all the Consuls, I think F was my favorite. He was a pretty reasonable guy, and even kept his end of the deal with Mobius. But of course he's the one that goes out like a bitch with a backstab. No fight for him.
G was mine, mainly because It was so curious of him to make the deal with Teach in the first place.
Why did he help this guy, it would have been easy to throw Teach back into the cycle and restart his memories?
And Teach clearly respects him enough to maintain his end of the bargain regarding the story of his past self.
It makes me wonder if Oleg was who Teach was in a past life, that the Teach we see now is a new round in the cycle altogether? And if that's so, that makes him like Ashera, someone who actually remembers his past lives.
left looks better, not only are the tits better, subtly more defined, and slightly more ideal size perfect for grabbing the outfit is better since it isnt necessarily trying to be seducing, instead it manages to be unintentionally sexy by highlighting the breasts due to perhaps a mistakenly selected shirt size
>left looks better
Twitter weirdoes harrasing devs, then they think those loud fucks are the entire fanbase.
yeah i still wonder what happened with xc2 its a massive downgrade compared to 1. i like nia though
I refuse to play xb2 because of the coomer shit and painfully cringe writing. I do want to give XB1 one a try though.
XB 1 and XB 3 are cooler than 2. They feel more "mature" and voice acting is overrall better.
2 only gets fucked by the gacha syatem and the extreme anime elements on some random moments
>maturity is a big deal for video gamers
I guess the 2nd post is trolling but don't you both see the irony
All 2fags like to talk about nowadays is about how 3 validated their super special coomer fantasies in the end. The game bred a fanbase of perpetually teenage chronic masturbators who will put up with the most mediocre game that Xenoblade has ever had, because there are multiple supermodel ladies obsessing over a boring cardboard protag. It oozes immaturity from every pore, and not in a 'childish innocence' way that can at least be endearing.
>because there are multiple supermodel ladies obsessing over a boring cardboard protag
1 did this first tho
They don't know about that, they're only here to shitpost and bait
>I refuse to play xb2 because of the coomer shit and painfully cringe writing.
Are you basing that off the usual cherrypicked screenshots that get posted here?
Yes, along with multiple cringe videos I've seen. ONE EYED MONSTER
Good to know. I'll probably emulate it.
SF 6 Cammy showed that a woman looks sexier wearing tight pants that almost nothing.
Honestly designs like Pyra leave not much for imagination
Eunie wants a big nest! She will drain Taion dry every night to make sure that happens!
I don't give a shit. I just want XCX2. I want a real ending and more alien interactions and actual fun skell combat that doesn't boil down to fuel management and one shotting tyrants. Unlike the other games, the world was compelling to explore and you could explore much more on foot because your jumps actually had height.
I'm replaying XCDE.
Fiora a cute.
>Fiora with glasses
I have now ascended
>game so shit you need ai to get "fan" art
Left is hotter than right
true, god eunie is so hot
i'm glad some of you anons have actual taste
and from above for good measure
time for sex
she doesn't know what sex is
of course she knows, the doctor taught the party all about it
time for sex education
OP pic us dishonest. Put Eunie in her swimsuit too.
I'm the one who made that pic in the OP, I'm not playing 3 again just to get her swimsuit, don't you get it the same way you get them in 2? I'm not playing a fucking arena
I just like homura bro