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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    or you could play smt instead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >persona and smt are 100+ hour games
      >don't wanna play em
      >played p3 past the first green moon night or whatever at the end of the month then stopped
      >meanwhile i'll gladly spend 100+ hours a month playing the same games over and over

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza. Looks like something I'd be into but I don't want to play 9 40-70 hour games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just play zero, kiwami and kiwami 2. If you want to continue after that then go ahead

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Continue from 7. 3-6 are not worth playing. They are all repetitive retreads of previous plot points and the gameplay sucks in general.
        Yakuza becoming a turn based rpg is probably the smartest move that RGG could have made when keeping things fresh.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm playing both series lmao, currently replaying Y0 story only and in chapter 3 of SC.
      Not gonna lie, SC was sold to me as this amazing rollercoaster from start to finish and I don't really see that. I think by early chapter 2 of FC I was super invested, and not till chapter 3 of SC am I getting that invested again. Maybe I just don't like the Zeiss area...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I loved SC, but I think I have more patience than the average gamer.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I am liking it, but it has a slower start than FC, I think. Went in expecting the game to go full throttle since the start and it didn't, it slowed down a bit and currently is building up to something again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dropped FC in Zeiss. You might be onto something there.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play Kurohyou 1 + 2. If you skip side content 1 is like 20 hours long.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why would you want to play a worse version of Suikoden?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suikoden has two good games, 2 and 5. Kiseki has at least 5.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        suikoden games did comparatively more with fewer games, but then again they didn't really go for some long-spanning narrative. each suikoden simply expands and builds upon the world. stil confuses me there's no official world map, though.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The series being so fricking drawn out is what's holding me back from fully enjoying it despite it seeming like something I would really enjoy.

      Different appeal.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand how they are similar in anyway besides being JRPGs the story and game are nothing a like.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both have an overarching narrative that has a heavy focus on politics

        Suikoden has two good games, 2 and 5. Kiseki has at least 5.

        Suikoden 1, 2, 3, and 5, all have better writing than any Trails games.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not related but japs can't write politics to save their life, and video game writing standard is even worse.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Suikoden II is the only relevant game in the series. Your nostalgia about it says nothing about the quality of the series itself, literally nobody cares about Suikoden outside of Suikoden II.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are you always pretending to care about Suikoden? They are not even the same style

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll never understand freaks like you.
      What if you already played Suikoden?
      Do you expect people to play the same game forever?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He is that anti jrpg contrarian schizo. As soon as a Suikoden collection or new Suikoden got threads he would just say go play DQ instead

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What if you already played Suikoden?
        Find another good jrpg series to play and not a worse version of an existing one.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You never played any of those, FEtroony

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You will seethe at that other jrpg anyway. Already saw the same pattern in different jrpg threads
            [...]
            Yeah FEtroons tried to ban Unicorn Overlord discussion with the translation meme, glad they failed

            >everyone I don't like is the same person!
            FE sucks too btw. Play actual good jrpg series for once like Growlanser, SaGa, Shadow Hearts, Breath of Fire, or Front Mission.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Growlanser, SaGa, Shadow Hearts, Breath of Fire, or Front Mission
              If they are so good sell me on them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Front Mission
              my wanzer. continually overlooked series.

              >games directed by the same person
              >each fleshes out the world further
              >creator got to actually conclude the series

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                because there hasn't been a good game since 5. there have been weird spin-off titles at best.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >almost 20 years since the last game
                jesus christus

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yet you dont go to FE threads to bother them

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If they are so good why are they dead?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Growlanser
              Dead series
              >SaGa
              On life support
              >Shadow Hearts
              Dead series
              >Breath of Fire
              Dead series
              >Front Mission
              Last good one was Front Mission 3, so, pretty much a dead series too

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And Lunar <3

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You will seethe at that other jrpg anyway. Already saw the same pattern in different jrpg threads
            [...]
            Yeah FEtroons tried to ban Unicorn Overlord discussion with the translation meme, glad they failed

            Ridiculous levels of cope.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you remove the mentions of FE it's true. There is an autistic hatred of the series, most likely from /vg/ users.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Final Fantasy threads garner more unreasonable hatred than Trails thread. The hate for Trails is also more valid since the writing which is praised so much is complete garbage.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                FF gets more hate then trails because it's more popular and an easy shitposting target. Both are unwarranted.(specifically the amount, it's fair to have criticisms)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or people just don't like the thing you like.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You will seethe at that other jrpg anyway. Already saw the same pattern in different jrpg threads

          You never played any of those, FEtroony

          Yeah FEtroons tried to ban Unicorn Overlord discussion with the translation meme, glad they failed

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You never played any of those, FEtroony

            >FE out of nowhere.
            Forever rent-free you UO homosexuals.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tough it out, I've gotten through FC and SC this month and these games have been totally worth it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I've gotten through FC and SC this month
      neetsama...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I work a 40 hour fulltime job with overtime, actually. I beat Nayuta and an SMT game this month as well.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Playing Cold Steel 2 right now. It is easily the best JRPG I have ever played

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That only tells me that you haven't played that many JRPGs.

      I work a 40 hour fulltime job with overtime, actually. I beat Nayuta and an SMT game this month as well.

      How do you do it, anon? I work a full-time job with no overtime (usually) and care for my elderly parents, and I barely manage 1 full game a month. Maybe 2 if I'm very lucky. Definitely never 4 though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anon who doesn't like games can't recognize the greatest JRPG of all time
        Not surprising tbh. Keep forcing yourself to play games kek

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >here let me make some wild assumptions about you based solely on the fact you don't consider this mediocre game I obsess over the holy grail of videogames
          Ah, Ganker, never change.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just woke up. The main answer is I don't get enough sleep. That's the main contributor for being able to beat so many JRPGs in a single month without skipping the side quests and working a fulltime job. That, and doing nothing else but playing vidya when not working.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play more jrpg's.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Tfw I bought trails into reverie before finding out there was 10 games I have to play before it.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sky, Sky II and Nayuta is all you need.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I keep wondering if I should put all my other jrpg games on pause so I can actually play this series.

    I've only played Cold Steel 1 but that was apprently a mistake and bad starting point.

    Also people told me it was like Persona but it wasn't it reminded me more of Fire Emblem games like three houses where there was like a war and you hand out with the students but I seem to be only one who thinks that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are trying to catch up on 20 years of games coming out in what, 1 or 2 years? I checked that I played First Chapter Sky around 2013 and only now am I starting Reverie.

      Only Cold Steel has some dating sim elements, but they aren't that central as with post P2 Persona. Sky Trilogy is the real starting point (you can play till Cold Steel 2 without playing Sky or Crossbell games though) and has a vibe is pure soul and comfy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Bad starting point
      It's the best starting point. You're just going to be jumping into games that are basically worse versions of cold steel 1 in terms of story, characters, and combat.
      >Like persona
      Nothing like persona. Only brainless westoids say that things are persona when they really arent.
      >Fire emblem
      Nothing like fire emblem

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I've only played Cold Steel 1 but that was apprently a mistake and bad starting point.
      You only really need to start with CS3. The other sagas are mostly self contained with some minor nods in the CS games. CS3 is very much a reboot of CS and discards much of CS1/2.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is this series the biggest meme pushed by Gankeriggers?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes.
      The music is getting worse and worse every game.
      The games are full of bad pacing and padding.
      The casts are too big so everyone's characterization suffers.
      The heroes/villains don't take anything seriously so why should we? I was shocked when Estelle and co just let Lechter literally walk away in CS.

      ?si=0zI1Ic0N9-6mBLXM&t=424
      Falcom's plot structure is repetitive after 7+ games.
      Falcom's line to line writing is repetitive and you can begin to predict every time someone will put out the usual ill-timed tired jokes(Lloyd dense with women for example).
      I am skeptical that the writers can pull off whatever they have planned with Ouroboros. They fell flat with Osborne and Olivier.
      I don't like the rapid tech advancing.
      The instant forgiveness the casts gives out to villains is ridiculous and infuriating.
      Renne is being overpushed.
      Falcom's one game a year policy, that Kondo takes pride in, is the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza

    Trails I was lucky i started when i was 16

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't want to play this. There isn't a bigger disappointment as you keep going.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Favorite character? For me, it's Bond's arc

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >fight boss
    >boss flees
    >haha I was only testing you last time
    >fight boss
    >they flee again
    >ok I'll be serious this time

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok but this is actually kino because it creates a personal and dramatic buildup with the enemy instead of just being some guy that appears and dies instantly. mcburn kicking your ass for 4 games before revealing it wasn't even his true form was fricking peak.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have kuro/kuro 2 completed saves without any dlc's?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warhammer 40k. Apart from the usual where the frick do I even start problem there is also what genre do I even pick and honestly, as much as I hate dumb empty games, here lore seems actually too detailed for its own good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just play Rogue Trader. Its really good and it gives little lore segments when you hover over words

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy because I'm an autist who likes playing in order. I beat 1.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza, Final Fantasy, Pokemon, probably Persona/SMT at this point.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I got the pokemon thing a while ago. Was told to just get GO! it was alright. Stopped playing it halfway through though and haven't really felt like I need to pick it up again

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least most of the games in those series are stand alone
      Meanwhile trails slop actually expect you to invest literally thousand hours to be able to enjoy their newest installment

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yakuza is "standalone" if you play 0, I guess. But it's still a large game. Final Fantasy and your average Persona games are incredibly long too. Pokemon more so because it feels like no one actively likes the games anymore and everything good about them are in like 20+ year old games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yakuza is "standalone" if you play 0, I guess. But it's still a large game. Final Fantasy and your average Persona games are incredibly long too. Pokemon more so because it feels like no one actively likes the games anymore and everything good about them are in like 20+ year old games.

      >pokemon
      Most new monster catcher games are superior than modern Pokemon, check out MHS. It's pretty good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Persona and SMT are entirely standalone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're incredibly long though. Average Persona is like 60 hours or some shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but then you can just play the peak of each series and get to know what's the best it can offer. Pick up Persona 5 Royal and SMTV Vengeance when it comes out.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    From Cold Steel onward games have summaries that get longer and longer.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw thought trails of cold steel was a sonic parody game

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm really curious about the series, specifically CS and onwards because it seems like everyone who's played the games hates them. Also, someone recommend kuro to me a while ago.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pros and Cons with CS lies in the fact they're modern JRPGs compared to breasts which were effectively mid-2000s JRPGs.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tales series is just not that popular. It's a niche franchise. I'd rather play other games.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thinkgen of cs ost

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      for me, it's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8QM6kSR9-Q

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Frick man, I’m glad Ganker shilled this game series to me. Absolutely legendary games, and I fricking loved every moment playing them. Now looking forward to playing Kuro or “Trails through Daybreak”

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Now looking forward to playing Kuro or “Trails through Daybreak”

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >someone actually likes the series on Ganker
          never thought id see the day

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ys is a better series

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hilarious how company politics makes them not tell people where to start so they have to come to forums to ask.

    Because Xseed owns the rights to the first batch of games, but NISA owns the other half, they don't want to advertise to go play the other parts first lest you don't buy their product.

    I very much enjoyed playing these games, especially the cross entry power scaling making it feel like one long big adventure.

    However the series definitely shoots itself in the foot with how it sold itself. With that being said, I'd push the narrative of one massive chronological story, which it is, because unlike something like FF, which has 16+ entries, this is one long story. It has recurring plot points, unique locales, enemy variety and really fun gameplay that's not just 4 guys in a row. Definitely worth playing.

    One of the best songs.
    https://youtu.be/E8x6NUuZR5I

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      none of the ff series is related to each other though. only ones that do are shit like FFX-2 and FF13-2 and lightning returns.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's what I mean. FF has a long series history but you just get to enter whichever one you want, and they usually alter some things not so it's an evolution but more of a change. Yes there is some development and mechanics that get brought forward, but they for the most part are seperate entries with no narrative ties to each other.

        Its why I appreciate Kiseki for mechanically weaving the series together both in gameplay and world. Not to mention Kiseki, despite the events being tame by other RPG standards, has multiple times gotten me invested in what was happening because of my past knowledge of the series, like the fantasy elements such as Ragnard, the ark and devils for example.

        All of these and more elements being reintroduced later as recurring things that happen creates a more structured world instead of just creating one separate world with individual entries. FF is still good, but it's the power of a single linear narrative through connected world and events. As much as I didn't enjoy certain elements in CS4, there was much more there to like because I had played all prior games in the series due to the power of the series investment.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I really don't get how remembering things exists wows people so much.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well clearly you've never been invested in something enough to care.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"Could this person have different values than I? No! They clearly have just never truly valued media the way I do!"
              Kiseki fans are deeply autistic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nta but you clearly misunderstood what he meant by reducing it to "remembering things exist"

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I understand. I just don't agree that it amounts to much more than acknowledgement of prior things. Passing that disagreement off as not engaging with material is the refuge of people who can't see other points of view.

                Kiseki says a lot of things and recognizes and reiterates information at a higher rate than most things. The issue is that a lot of this is ultimately shallow and doesn't really do anything unique or more deftly than other sequels. It's just doing what other games do, but telling the player more directly that it's doing it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I mean I get the harsh response of "you don't care about it enough" is stupid, but if you boil down any new information or re contextualization to just "remembering things exist" then you either take all information at face value and believe that's where it starts and ends, or you don't trust any information given to you.

                If you treat stories or worlds like nothing other than parroting information, then obviously you don't integrate with a world enough. Not saying you should self-insert into games, that's just idiocy, but you should at least care enough for what is happening. Otherwise your just some omnipotent observer.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If you treat stories or worlds like nothing other than parroting information
                I think your issue is assuming this is the default view and not a criticism of how Kiseki handles information.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would say Kiseki's biggest problem is the introduction of new information, leaving us as bystanders whilst a secret group works in the background with all the knowledge.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A bit.
                I just think it values introducing ideas and acknowledging the consistency work it did over actually building meaningful moments and ideas. It gets caught up on the idea of world building to such an extent that it gets worse at it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Could you give an example of meaningful moments, even from other RPGs? I need a frame to work from for what you mean. Something like Sky 3rd being one big journey for one guy, whilst everyone off to the side had resolutions and characters arcs in text felt pretty meaningful. CS4 and the robots got me. It might be that Falcom is good at beginnings and endings, suffering in the middle.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    YS>trails

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you start on this series, you have games that will last you the next 10 years, which is good.
    That is if the game series is good of course, I don't know shit about this series.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't be a b***h, b***h. They're all good and the main value of the series is the continuous storyline from game to game to game.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    are the games really that good?
    or should I play something else first? I haven't played many JRPGs at all

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're the most genetic anime slop you could imagine

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, play better series instead like

      [...]
      >everyone I don't like is the same person!
      FE sucks too btw. Play actual good jrpg series for once like Growlanser, SaGa, Shadow Hearts, Breath of Fire, or Front Mission.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Play something shorter to start off. Unless you feel bold and don't mind the slow pacing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are comfy but slow

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like them.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Redpill me on this game?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's One Piece.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Oh good nevermind I can save my time thanks

        please dont compare kino the in sky to gay piece u fricking Black person

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >sky

          No, it's Naruto.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sky
          >Kino
          l
          m
          a
          o

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Too many games
    You can unironically skip every game before Cold steel 1 since Cold Steel 1 is literally those games condensed into one.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can someone who actually reads traditionally-published fiction tell me whether or not this world or these stories are worth getting invested in?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying anyone in this board reads books

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I read out my school library in kindergarten.

        I haven't played these jank ass games besides one of the demos which let me know not to bother though and story doesn't matter in a game.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >in kindergarten
          heh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's One Piece.

      Oh good nevermind I can save my time thanks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you are plot focused then cold steel 1-4 is for you.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    None. I've gone through dozens of books by authors I enjoyed in whatever order I could find them in. Why would games be different when basically only Mario as an overarching series has more games than those authors have books?

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    aren't there games that take place before breasts too?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, there are only the occasional flashbacks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. The Legend of Heroes games before breasts take place in a different universe.

      Legend of Heroes 1 & 2 = Dragonslayer duology, their own universe/finished story

      Legend of Heroes 3, 4 and 5 = Gagharv trilogy, take place in their own universe

      Legend of Heroes 6 and beyond = Trails, which starts with Sky and has no story connections to Gagharv or Dragonslayer and takes place in a new world.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've played every Kiseki that's officially released.
    AMA

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      was it worth it?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Brief thoughts on the series?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is the story worth the effort of avoid spoilers or is it a series more about the characters? Also what games are the high points?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is Sky literally sword art online?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it's Naruto.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Has Not Kirito and Not Asuna
        >People constantly gush over that stupid ship to infinity
        Reminder the foundation of the series is a true mary sue self insert wanting to frick her non blood related brother.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I played Nayuta and am about to finish Sky SC, is there a reason the Libel Ark seems so similar to Tera?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's a character in CS called Towa Herschel whose grandparents were scientists that ran a museum. There's also an "outside" in kiseki that you can never get to because you'll always arrive back in Zemuria. There's also a character from the Outside who looks very similar to Nayuta.
        There's an autistic fan theory that claims Nayuta's parents arrived in Zemuria after passing through the Beyond, and then they settled down there since they were unable to go back.

        https://kisekicrack.esterior.net/2020/09/23/to-the-ends-of-the-earth/

        I think it's all BS tho, the devs are known for frequently recycling plot points and characters, this becomes very obvious as you play through all the games. You probably noticed that Joshua and Loewe are just Cygna and his other evil half.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That theory sounds really kino, I hope it's true

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God I wish McBurn was Nayuta

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      AWNSER THE QUESTIONS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you say AMA and not awnser anything? I'm disappointed in you.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick would you play this series instead of just playing Persona or Xenoblade?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who says you can't have played Persona and Xenoblade if you play Trails?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Persona
      Not interconnected.
      >Xenoblade
      Doesn't reference itself as heavily as Kiseki.

      If they are so good why are they dead?

      Normalgays have bad taste.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Doesn't reference itself as heavily as Kiseki.
        Is that really so important?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A good bit of Kiseki's appeal is it being one long, continuous story

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you can like all three series, it's ok.
            but also, neither of those offers the same things as trails.

            [...]
            the overarching storyline is one of its most important elements for most fans i would say.

            That's the main appeal of Kiseki, so yeah. It's one of the main differences between XB and Kiseki.

            >The main appeal is the interconnected story.
            >Fans constantly shit on the story for being god awful.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The problem is that you have roughly 15 years of falcom doing a good job with this and the last 5+ years where falcom is needlessly dragging the story on tangents even though their debt for answering questions has overflowed.
              You can really pinpoint this in reverie where its practically a filler arc for the worldbuilding

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You frame it like that, but it was "good" for 5 out of 12 games. And two of those were mostly filler. And one of them is shit but people give it a pass because they like Estelle.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think the CS arc is generally fine. CS2 isn't as good as Ao and the divine knight rivalries should have begun in CS3, but its not awful and the arc still tackles timeskips and two regions at once which is alot.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It was fine up until CS. Olivier has more meaningful interactions with Osborne in 3rd than the entirety of CS.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I remember anon saying something in another thread. Something along the lines of the fans who push the series are slice of life/rom com gays who were using the interconnected story as a camouflage to hide the fact that they only liked slice of life/rom com.
              This is because they started complaining in droves, as soon as the series focused more on the plot that was building up.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's the main appeal of Kiseki, so yeah. It's one of the main differences between XB and Kiseki.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you can like all three series, it's ok.
      but also, neither of those offers the same things as trails.

      >Doesn't reference itself as heavily as Kiseki.
      Is that really so important?

      the overarching storyline is one of its most important elements for most fans i would say.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So it is like gigantic 600 hour behemoth of story. Guess some people might like that but it is honestly a hard sell for me.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you don't have to commit to the whole thing if you don't want to. you can just play trails in the sky 1 and if you enjoy it you can keep playing the rest for as long as you feel like it. as a standalone story it's still excellent and comfy as frick.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This

          you don't have to commit to the whole thing if you don't want to. you can just play trails in the sky 1 and if you enjoy it you can keep playing the rest for as long as you feel like it. as a standalone story it's still excellent and comfy as frick.

          anon is baiting you very hard, breasts1 ends on an extreme cliffhanger which means you'll have to play 2 immediately after or be left with an awful aftertaste and a lot of unresolved shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're not wrong but i still think the game can be very enjoyable by itself.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of them have cool MC's with cool anime transformations.
      >but in xeno-
      It doesn't look nearly as cool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Persona or Xenoblade
      Both are garbage compared to any of the ones listed here.

      [...]
      >everyone I don't like is the same person!
      FE sucks too btw. Play actual good jrpg series for once like Growlanser, SaGa, Shadow Hearts, Breath of Fire, or Front Mission.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        imagine having sales figure worse than the "garbage".

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          normalgays have bad taste

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I already played persona and xenoblade
      Persona 3 and 5 are ass
      Xenoblade 3 is a disgrace to the entire series

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trails is trash
    Worst JRPG series
    A waste of time
    Shit games with shit characters from a shit company
    Falcomslop ruined my life
    Go play better games

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sorry but I just can't believe any game that has this dude in it could ever be bad, and I heard he's in nearly all of them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Olivier is a shit character since FC
      You guys played the XSeed fanfic version
      In the original game Olivier is bland and annoying

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, he's fairly flamboyant and views the female cast as his personal harem.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Xseed can't have fanfic'd him riding in on that boat or drinking with Anton and Aina, I can literally see it happening even without text

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theyre all shit

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if so good, why so niche?

    curious

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      normalgays have bad taste

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They are extremely slow paced games, and require a massive time investment that most people don't want to deal with.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >extremely slow paced games
        Do you mean grindy combat with long slow cutscenes?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You never have to grind in kiseki and there is a turbo button that lets you speed up combat and cutscenes

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The combat is hardly grindy, especially with turbo. I'm referring more to Falcom's plot structure and how their plots develop.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gets translated years late, and anyone who would ever recommend the series to you is probably the most autistic weaboo you've ever met

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kingdom Hearts. I'm not too high on Disney these days, so that doesn't help either.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sky and Crossbell duo = Great
    Cold Steel, Reverie and Daybreak = Trash

    Also I fricking hate Alisa. Worst character of any japanese media.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FC is the best one. Richard's relatively mundane coup attempt was far more compelling that the needlessly convoluted and dragged out Ouroboros nonsense.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only people who, not ironically, like this garbage franchise are Brazilians

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only played the CS games because I liked breaking the combat system.
    The narrative ends up sucking the more you play

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rean ruined the series
    Cold Steel is garbage

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rean isn't real, the writers ruined it

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I will always laugh at how this anime was a fantastic flop.
      What were they expecting when they were making a northern war anime and not having rean be the main character?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WHAT WERE THEY THINKING????

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They were thinking WE NEED TO HAVE A GIRL IN ORDER TO SELL THIS ANIME NO ONE WILL WATCH IT BECAUSE ANIME AUDIENCES HATE MALES!!
        While conveniently forgetting that rean is the most popular trails character, second most popular falcom character, and altina is the most popular female trails character.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Estelle is more popular than the shitty cumdoll.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No one cares about fan fic'ed character

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I do. b***h.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Japan does.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So don't play them? Theres a thousand other JRPG series that you could play why complain about the ONE that doesn't appeal to you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is saying he wants to play them. He's just lazy.
      Like me.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not even laziness, it's just too big of a time commitment. For me at least, don't know about OP.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      learn2read

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yakuza for me, i got to kiwami 2 and just burned out, cant see myself finishing the whole series

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone saying Yakuza should just play Judgement.
    It’s only 2 games and they are arguably the best “Yakuza” games, although I love 7 and 8 equally to Judgement and Lost Judgement.

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Disgaea looks pretty great, but it's to long for a single game, let alone this many.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ys comes to mind.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ironic weebs and westoids seething over the Ultimate JP-KINO that is Kiseki
    KINO

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ywnbj

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ywnbabeojklmiw

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what
    why
    it's like not wanting to get a dish in an restoraunt because there are too many special chef recipes or not listening to a song from an album

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but FOMO.
      [current game] is all people wanna hear about, all people discuss and it will be the predominant type of Kiseki content.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there's too many fricking yakuza games and every year they make like three more

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tbh yakuza might be more intimidating to go through fully since you're very likely not going in release order and will start with Y0, Kiwami and Kiwami 2, then do PS3 Yakuza into Y6 and you'll mis QoL and gameplay features 0 and the Kiwamis introduce.
      Plus, the games are lengthy enough story-wise, but if you add in side stories, a big appeal of the series, a single Yakuza game could easily end up being 60 hours.

      Do Trails games get longer as they go on? I have heard CS I is infamously lengthy. Is Sky the 3rd the shortest? Would doing an easy mode run just for the story be worth it? Yes I know there is a door system or something

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Trails games get progressively longer, however that depends on if you do side stuff, because you not only have to do it, but you have to find it. Sky 3rd is very nice with it's overall length, as the doors are mainly stories to read rather than grind through, with only a couple battles for narrative value. Though with how you put it, I'd say you have to play the first sky games first, as Sky 3rd is very dependent on the first games.

        The series does have a good mechanic for leveling though, which helps with pace, as leveling is soft capped, where after a certain level for the surrounding enemy levels, you stop leveling as fast so you know when to stop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only 0, Judgment and LaD are worth it, anyway. Yakuza 3, 4 and 5, especially 4 and 5, have the most idiotic plots in the video games outside of Nomura and Nojima games.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I found out that my girlfriend (Estelle) bathes with other men while I'm away on business. Not sure how to feel about this...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hi Joshua.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i wonder what the japanese text says. They literally saying it is okay for agate to be a pedo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >People complain in large casts in the newer trails games
      >The first one literally did the same thing
      I'm starting to think people may be biased

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its basically the same thing.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How bad is the school shit from cold steel and how does it compare to the liberl arc? Is there a lot of improvements for combat/dungeons at least? Does cold steel still have a good focus on world building and characters?

    I'm currently finishing The third, and i love so much but one thing i'm bummed out is how many party members is there, and it is kinda taking focus out

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sky is the only subseries that did lots of party members right. Crossbell cast is way smaller in general and Cold Steel literally has dozens of waifus, tsunderes and yanderes whose only purpose is to be part of Rean's harem. It's pretty awful.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was trying to goggle how many party members cold steel have and holy frick. 4 has fricking 17. What were they thinking?

        5~6 is my limit, anything more has to be support and guests

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Does cold steel have a good focus on world building and characters?
      Yes. It's the best in the series. cold steel 1 is literally just sky 1 and 2, but it is more plot focused, gives party characters more focus in each chapter of the story, and threw the stupid forced romance melodrama out the window. If you're a moron who is a subhuman shipper, then the rest of the games are not for you.
      >School shit
      I'm going to spoil you because you're already a moron. The only one you have to blame is yourself.
      Sky has bracers.
      Crossbell has police, also known as bracers.
      Cold steel has a secret unsanctioned counter terrorist task force masquerading as a class in a military academy, also known as bracers. Why? Because there is a secret power struggle happening in the background and class 7 is unknowingly conducting reconnaissance in various regions and collecting intelligence on various factions while also thwarting terrorist attacks in an attempt for their sponsor to find a way to get a somewhat favorable conclusion to the upcoming shit storm.
      Did i mention that they're bracers?
      Kuro has a agency where its members do odd jobs, also known as bracers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bracers are more like a adventurers guild than a school per see. I don't mind that whatsoever. What i do mind however was how agonizing and boring Jennis academy was, and if the game will spend a lot of time in a school setting going into "socializing" and slice of life garbage

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          mfw doing moon door 3.
          I almost forgot what game i was playing

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The purpose of the jenis academy section is to make the game longer and force the joshua and estelle ship.
          I'm going to be real with you. Everything in the series since sky 1 is basically built up from sky 1 itself and toned up a bit due to player feedback.
          Players liked world building, npc interaction, plot, interacting with characters, Large casts that team up at the end, so on and so forth. You're going to get that in the later games.
          The only difference is that it's better.
          In regards to cold steel 1, the school is basically the hub/backdrop between story chapters and there to have an established constant community like you had in the previous games. It's there for you to do a few side quests, get some missables, interact with NPC's, level up, create gear and quartz, etc.
          In regards to the crossbell games, you have a police station and the entire city to serve as your hub/backdrop.
          That's it.
          You could just skip all the side stuff if you want and just do the main quest that will progress the story. You'll miss things, but you get that option.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How bad is the school shit
      Terrible. As soon as I saw that you are actually tested on irrelevant bits of history that you had to go out of your way to research, and it has an effect on your score at the end of the chapter I quit the game.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >BBBBUT I CANT JUST LOOK WATCH A YOUTUBER TO UNDERSTAND THE SERIES BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS PLAYING THE GAMES
    Looks like the zoomer auto-filter is working as intended

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *working adult filter

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trails in the Sky = breasts
    Trails through Daybreak = TtD
    And you guys said falcom wasn't based!

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Keven shows up in Kai
    >His model acts like Mickey Mouse in that his weird hair stays in place while his body rotates.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If a series has THAT many sequels and entries (trales, tales, mega man etc), i just don't bother. It's obvious that with that many sequels then the devs haven't put any effort into them. And they're just shitting them out using some sort of template, with the least amount of effort possible, and by reusing assets etc.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buy almost all atelier games on Steam
    >only finished two of them so far, stopped playing the third partway through
    i'll... get back to it soon...
    >last played December 2022
    soon.....

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thinking of playing all of the dragon slayer series in chronological order to truly understand trails lore

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