>Setting has Enlightenment era aesthetics, modern era values, and Medieval era technology and feudalism

>Setting has Enlightenment era aesthetics, modern era values, and Medieval era technology and feudalism

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Name 5 (five) settings that do this

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Most D&D settings, actually. Almost every D&D setting has plate armour and castles that look like they're from the late Renaissance / early Enlightenment, almost every D&D setting has an alignment system that is built around modern morality and almost every D&D setting has feudalism and mostly medieval technology, aside from absurdly sophisticated plate armour.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I agree. Now name 5

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Forgotten Realms, Ravenloft, Eberron, Greyhawk, Dragonlance.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            isn't Eberron well into industrial revolution?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Not universally.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Neither was Earth during the Industrial Revolution, if you're taking that tack.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Almost every D&D setting has plate armour and castles that look like they're from the late Renaissance / early Enlightenment
        Because most people aren't taught that guns existed alongside plate armor and the whole 1000s to 1500s is nebulously 'medieval' in most educational systems in the west. We also know that historically this is in part tied to politically motivated 'historians' and artists that retold history using more relatable elements of the time. So you'd get images of ancient historical battles but the warriors would be depicted in medieval armor to try and draw a historical lineage to the contemporary rules and nations of the time.
        Good and evil axis is just Selflessness vs Selfishness
        Law and Chaos axis is adherence to societal rules/laws vs not doing so.
        I act outside of societal norms to act selflessly is Chaotic Good.
        I act within the confines of the societal systems to my own gain is Lawful Evil.
        It's not hard and fits into the most philosophical, theological and legal systems of antiquity.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >selflessness and selfishness
          >societal rules
          The definitions of these change according to the society that you're in so unless you want each society to have its own alignment, you need an objective standard to work with and usually those are the standards of the modern day.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Please give two historical examples where selflessness and selfishness are different than our modern understanding of the terms.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              NTA, but some significant examples:
              > Filial piety (what responsibility do we have to take care of our parents?)
              > Duty to the government (attitude towards military service, nationalism)
              > Abortion (which is more important: life of the child or quality of life of the mother?)
              In the last century, there have been significant shifts in attitudes toward these subjects. You can always find examples of modern-acceptable behavior in the past, but they were almost universally met with societal condemnation.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I think a lot of players and GM do have a decent grasp on history, but just want a swords and sorcery game without shitty mudcore aesthetics and religious fanaticism ruining everything

          If I wanted to play a historically accurate game, I would just play a historically accurate game

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >almost every D&D setting has an alignment system that is built around modern morality
        Patently false. Alignment is explicitly not built around modern morality.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm always glad when my fantasy setting not having significant amounts of sexism, homophobia, or racism filters out a new player

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      GMs really are the ultimate cucks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >he doesn't build his settings with both a hyper-masculine pseudo-Islamic state and a Sapphic gynarchy, just to keep people that can't keep their political sperging to themselves

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        *keep out

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Racism was less pronounced in the middle ages. Instead lines were drawn on religious grounds.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Racism was less pronounced in the middle ages.
        Bullshit. Less relevant does not mean less pronounced. "Racism" is an evolutionary constant.
        >lines were drawn on religious grounds.
        True, but religion tend to be a part of an ethnic group's cultural expression; in most cases, they are/were essentially indistinguishable, especially on any level that matters in terms of inter-communal conflict.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >"Racism" is an evolutionary constant.
          Medieval peasants were not normally racist on the grounds that they didn't really usually have much of an awareness of the existence of other races. They'd probably heard stories about them, but that was about it. The people they hated were more like those idiots from the next village west, or the reeve sent by the local lord to collect the year's tithes.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >saucenao
          >it's just anal hentai and random shit

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The prevalence of black saints during the Ottonian renaissance disagrees with you. It was religion before race, not the other way around.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Arthurian legends feature a literally black knight too, Aglovale fricked a Moorish princess during his travels and had a son named Moriaen with her, but the story goes out of it's way to insist that it's okay because she was a princess of a Christian Moorish kingdom.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Also not to mention due to that one story of Phillip who met the Eunuch to the Queen of Sheba and spread Christianity to Africa and Thomas who spread it to India, there was huge mythologizing of those cultures among Europeans.

              And even non-Christian kings could be respected. Mansa Musa appears on the Atlas of Catalan (wearing Gold which is against Islam but still)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      imagine sucking dicks and being proud of it - no - basing your entire identity around it

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >he thinks that race conflict was a "cornerstone" of lotr
    lmao

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Have you tried getting over it?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >
      >step out of my light
      What a Chad

      https://i.imgur.com/JlJyFe1.png

      >Setting has Enlightenment era aesthetics, modern era values, and Medieval era technology and feudalism

      >Enlightenment era aesthetics
      based
      >Medieval tech and feudalism
      BASED

      We all know where the problem is coming from, anon.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    feel free to imagine that i've posted the "yes" chad image in reply

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, is that a problem?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Just go make your own setting then, nerd.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    based, as a history nerd it's annoying how common this is, it is an enormous immersion breaker

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >RPG settings are flights of the imagination are amalgamations of a variety of interests combined in ways that are enjoyable and communicable to players that create a game and beholden to no historical precedent only inspiration.
    ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What’s the problem?

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