Should mod creators be paid? They are doing the same work as a game dev, I think the fair market applies.
Should mod creators be paid? They are doing the same work as a game dev, I think the fair market applies.
Should mod creators be paid? They are doing the same work as a game dev, I think the fair market applies.
No.
nexus already pays modders
but they shouldnt
>but they shouldnt
You have to remember Nexus offers NOTHING of value otherwise. Some of the better Skyrim modders make content that is commissioned and used by other modders. Any CBS Interactive website could snatch up the entire modding scene almost instantly.
no
>why
i don't want to pay them
you're hired
Mod labor is worth whatever people are willing to pay them. Let them try, I'm sure a few morons will bite.
No because without the game's platform they couldn't work.
Also on the internet brand recognition is often better than quality. Vicn is far more known than any paid Skyrim modder that stuck to their guns. I'll be looking forward to his next work and if he gets hired as a game dev I'd buy his game.
That's the same things as saying a 3d modeler employed by the game company would have no work if the coders didn't make a game for them to create models for. And some "modders" actually create nicer models than the people paid to do it.
No, it is not. There is an industry all about 3D art and animation. Modding is almost exclusively a games thing, especially since people are losing their right to repair in many fields around the world. Games provide a platform, a basis, a context, and most of all an audience for your mods to be enjoyed, from the laziest texture swap to Enderal itself.
If modders should be paid, it should be by devs. Not by fans, who would be gatekept out of content that would have been previously theirs for free by devs who did nothing but create the game they were already paid to make and provide whatever assistance, if any but most likely not, to creating mods and the tools for them. Patreon would be an ideal solution if other projects like Yandere Sim didn't prove the winning move is to never complete the mod. It is still a better alternative.
If the dev paid for the mod they'd want to include it with the game, which would require payroll and play testing and lending support. They did officially do that, Skyrim anniversary comes bundled with mods, but on a wide scale it's not feasible.
The devs shouldn't buy the mod from the author for rights to include in the game. The modder has been putting in time and effort to add new content to the dev's game. His work should be recognized and paid for by devs and otherwise left as is. "Thank you, your modding of our game helps keep it popular and grows our community, we here at DevStudios loved what you did and inspired us for the future. Here's a hundred bucks for this banger of a mod."
Besides, every ToS says "everything you create with this is technically ours" so they don't even need to pay you to include your mod for anything from highlight reels to their actual game. They'd might want to give it QA but aside from that, the mod is theirs. The precious resource is the guy who made it. You don't want him to stop making mods. That is what the whole paid mods thing is about. Retaining talents via financial compensation. They make "products" for players but the devs see modders as providing a very valuable service, one that companies like Bethesda see as essential to their business.
Fair market means the mod is worth whatever people are (or aren't) willing to pay for it. If the modder asks for $5 and people agree to pay $5 then the mod is "worth" $5.
t. community college freshman
The only thing you learn beyond that is how to market your product
Basically, implement DRM
I'm dying to know how you "think" the economy works
>I’m dying
I’ll say a final benediction for you then anon
It's functionally true. If a modder spends 400 hours making a mod, he's essentially done 400 hours of game dev; but as a society, the internet has decided that mod development isn't worth as much as base game development, and few would pay for a mod. Thus, the mods go up for free. It also isn't a coincidence that modders generally have WAY more respect from the community than regular devs.
>can't even >t. right
>can’t T right
>mod creators get nothing
wow this company is getting free work omg frick these guys pay the mods
>mod creators get paid
omg these mod creators are fricking greedy wheres the free shit
>mod creators are virgins
Haha no wonder they have time to make mods
>mod creators get laid
Noooooooo they’re not part of my special secret club!
>mod creators have appendectomy
Oh good thing, probably saved his life
>mod creators get spayed
omg these mod creators are fricking greedy prostitutes
Modding used to be an actual grass roots thing, and then game companies realized modding helps the longevity of their game, so they started having their staff publish fixes, cut content, textures, etc as mods to make the mod selection more robust.
should vs could
if they want to charge, I think it should be on the table. not saying anyone would actually buy it.
no and they should be sued for copyright infringement
They're not doing the same work at all, considering all the groundwork is already laid. Even when they do a lot of unique stuff like custom models, music, even some code additions, they're still using at the very least the bulk of the game's original code.
It's like if someone already built a house and you went in to do some renovations. Most of the time you'll leave much as is and only fix certain parts. Sometimes you might take down a wall, add some cabinets, paint, whatever. But you're never going to tear down the whole house and build it yourself. It's rather unfair to say that you deserve to be paid the same as the guys who actually built the house in that case.
However if you want to get into the topic of stuff like patreon, then I think that's fine. They are doing work, it's fair if people want to pay them for that. It should not be a mandatory thing, nor viewed as a legitimate source of income like that of actual game devs, though.
There are people on the game's staff paid to do exactly that. Not every person making a game is making the groundwork.
Look at this fricking lazybones worker bee lmao
I always put my cart back. Do not call me a lazybones
I bet you park right next to the cart return so you don’t have to walk too far, lazybones
>should they be paid
yeah sure why not? just not paid by me. bethesda and co should kick them a few bucks, mods are the only reason why their games survive the long term.